From nobody Tue Jun 12 18:55:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19533130DC2 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:55:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Mf7qbVF7qqG for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk0-x232.google.com (mail-vk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F66A12D7F8 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x232.google.com with SMTP id 128-v6so576669vkf.8 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:55:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UBODpbqOYLn41PWGPHDsBuVoJMvo9x82HTwfjai/snk=; b=KRRVdlfEgUIV24BnD0ZYejNqCnfUSJpHlCAtrDU+zNYlc+0tIamtgKejJT8avkLOOZ FI6bt2IDIP4pMCvY9eTRzCovcAjkh4GUMSX/nwCTqQF5B70JD39hgv7M2jE4fiuuqSAR 7hc91tnHq6wkhgL7qe8umJvzeP0SdiLTu5DL3DhPOfijNOWyy8wfZ0iBrC/YIB2o8YFY tuj3PYmm+bD59I2ddWt7cco1JWmDtfaeIh4rB/3xGEEXoVzRsu4AGGUqRJR86Inzp0cu hrETOmXc8ON9H/aCMNUOORK9jzkaIPhC9va8VifwRTPJVjvM1DUb7Lxbpxi6dOCeQzc6 9viA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UBODpbqOYLn41PWGPHDsBuVoJMvo9x82HTwfjai/snk=; b=LRfeb9T1CaMIpw6DkZeN0Uq33tl11TDdse1OMs3BXyK6jK1+yFG6lyW0uAH0x6Lwid EdCjx92fmvXfP+/zvmD7Ya5qeunS2JxmFe7YBVCTaM7UZjLw+UoqlalBQp8xrRUL4EfF 8/N5a3FOCZev/sahDX6q975tbyGflI3UGttqlsydhZEF0dZDrit5E/M2OSuYaEzXH5fy zAuWM8Hyl5Stwia5HC+TP9FATonkf0+TJ1iFTc5KAOQ+AU4RyJoabUBMAPYZEA8PB0rl wmYEOYKkMuEDCS1YOYXdt8Edtdf9QDghDGIeCK4ZAdwFbGwyU8PDA39TIa2rsz0AAhzI Hg2g== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3eqPPEBJQgOsJ0LKfMrCFOEkchvyRstDbbGQYtlZ6TrQIZbB03 V6t112cRB3owDMRgoPMCqBmDNnUde1qg4P+HTtG9rg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJiwn3blLqauvWjCxR6EYKO9DVpeRYb5/p8kqsHpetc1gEONzGTvHuxaN+1dnQGch7x9qF2ETvGUlB7RkRjWGc= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:420a:: with SMTP id p10-v6mr1850415vka.44.1528854907514; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:55:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Rahul Jadhav Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:24:56 +0530 Message-ID: To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks , "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] DAO Projection - identifying storing, non-storing P-DAO X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 01:55:13 -0000 Hello Pascal, WG, When i started implementing storing mode P-DAO, i faced one problem, ... as per the draft the only way to identify storing P-DAO from non-storing P-DAO is that storing P-DAO has at-least 2 VIOs whereas non-storing P-DAO has only one VIO. The problem with implementation is that i need to traverse the whole P-DAO before i know whether it is storing or non-storing P-DAO and populate the route table accordingly. This way either i have to buffer VIO/via temporarily and then act. Otherwise i have to have a 2-pass traversal through the P-DAO to check whether it is storing or non-storing first and then act on the fields in later pass. If we can have a flag somewhere in the P-DAO header to signal storing or non-storing then it would make implementation much simpler. For interested ones, part implementation of DAO projection code is at: https://github.com/whitefield-framework/contiki/tree/dao_projection It currently supports registration/unregistration of projected routes using non-storing P-DAO with +/- ACKing. 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Wed, 13 Jun 2018 04:58:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6b16c897762d4f979b8302022c79bf79@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <6b16c897762d4f979b8302022c79bf79@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> From: Rahul Jadhav Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:28:14 +0530 Message-ID: To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" Cc: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO Projection - identifying storing, non-storing P-DAO X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:58:30 -0000 One thing that comes to my mind is using DAO base object bits... But i m not sure if they can/should be expended for such purpose. Another option is to use TIO bits and make TIO mandatory preceding the VIOs ... Other fields such as path-seq/lifetime can also be removed from VIO and can be kept only in TIO. Anyways having a different Path-Sequence in individual VIOs does not help (not sure if having a different path lifetime in individual VIO is needed?). For current implementation, i m planning to go ahead with an extra pass/traversal over the options to check for multiple VIOs. On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 at 14:54, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > > I agree Rahul, > > I picked that method as a starting point but as I presented at the IETF meeting I do not like it either, and it would be great that the group come up with something better. > > Would you have a particular preference based on your experience here? > > Pascal > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rahul Jadhav > > Sent: mercredi 13 juin 2018 03:55 > > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks ; Pascal > > Thubert (pthubert) > > Subject: DAO Projection - identifying storing, non-storing P-DAO > > > > Hello Pascal, WG, > > > > When i started implementing storing mode P-DAO, i faced one problem, ... as > > per the draft the only way to identify storing P-DAO from non-storing P-DAO > > is that storing P-DAO has at-least 2 VIOs whereas non-storing P-DAO has only > > one VIO. > > The problem with implementation is that i need to traverse the whole P-DAO > > before i know whether it is storing or non-storing P-DAO and populate the > > route table accordingly. This way either i have to buffer VIO/via temporarily > > and then act. Otherwise i have to have a 2-pass traversal through the P-DAO > > to check whether it is storing or non-storing first and then act on the fields in > > later pass. > > > > If we can have a flag somewhere in the P-DAO header to signal storing or non- > > storing then it would make implementation much simpler. > > > > For interested ones, part implementation of DAO projection code is at: > > https://github.com/whitefield-framework/contiki/tree/dao_projection > > It currently supports registration/unregistration of projected routes using > > non-storing P-DAO with +/- ACKing. > > > > Regards, > > Rahul From nobody Wed Jun 13 05:36:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86418130E1C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:36:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Wed, 13 Jun 2018 21:26:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6b16c897762d4f979b8302022c79bf79@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: From: Rahul Jadhav Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:56:45 +0530 Message-ID: To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" Cc: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO Projection - identifying storing, non-storing P-DAO X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:27:01 -0000 Yes, using new type (SRVIO) is a better idea. Thus we can have SRVIO and VIO for non-storing and storing mode respectively and these options will be mutually exclusive .. i.e. when SRVIO is sent, there should not be any VIO in the DAO and vice-versa. For storing mode P-DAO,no is there a reason to have multiple VIOs? I mean, can we keep multiple vias in the same VIO? The reason for doing this is, currently we have different path-seq/lifetime per VIO and having it separately does not help. I m not sure what an implementation can do with different path-seq values in multiple VIO for the same target from the same originator. On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 at 18:06, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > > Hello Rahul: > > As you figured, the original intent was to replace the TIO by a VIO. So yes, your proposal is workable. > An alternate could be to define a source-routed VIO (SRVIO) with Type = 0xB and keep the current VIO for storing mode only. > > What do you think? > > Pascal > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rahul Jadhav > > Sent: mercredi 13 juin 2018 13:58 > > To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > > Cc: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > > Subject: Re: DAO Projection - identifying storing, non-storing P-DAO > > > > One thing that comes to my mind is using DAO base object bits... But i m not > > sure if they can/should be expended for such purpose. > > Another option is to use TIO bits and make TIO mandatory preceding the VIOs > > ... Other fields such as path-seq/lifetime can also be removed from VIO and > > can be kept only in TIO. Anyways having a different Path-Sequence in > > individual VIOs does not help (not sure if having a different path lifetime in > > individual VIO is needed?). > > For current implementation, i m planning to go ahead with an extra > > pass/traversal over the options to check for multiple VIOs. > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 at 14:54, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > > wrote: > > > > > > I agree Rahul, > > > > > > I picked that method as a starting point but as I presented at the IETF > > meeting I do not like it either, and it would be great that the group come up > > with something better. > > > > > > Would you have a particular preference based on your experience here? > > > > > > Pascal > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Rahul Jadhav > > > > Sent: mercredi 13 juin 2018 03:55 > > > > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks ; > > > > Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > > > > Subject: DAO Projection - identifying storing, non-storing P-DAO > > > > > > > > Hello Pascal, WG, > > > > > > > > When i started implementing storing mode P-DAO, i faced one problem, > > > > ... as per the draft the only way to identify storing P-DAO from > > > > non-storing P-DAO is that storing P-DAO has at-least 2 VIOs whereas > > > > non-storing P-DAO has only one VIO. > > > > The problem with implementation is that i need to traverse the whole > > > > P-DAO before i know whether it is storing or non-storing P-DAO and > > > > populate the route table accordingly. This way either i have to > > > > buffer VIO/via temporarily and then act. Otherwise i have to have a > > > > 2-pass traversal through the P-DAO to check whether it is storing or > > > > non-storing first and then act on the fields in later pass. > > > > > > > > If we can have a flag somewhere in the P-DAO header to signal > > > > storing or non- storing then it would make implementation much simpler. > > > > > > > > For interested ones, part implementation of DAO projection code is at: > > > > https://github.com/whitefield-framework/contiki/tree/dao_projection > > > > It currently supports registration/unregistration of projected > > > > routes using non-storing P-DAO with +/- ACKing. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rahul From nobody Wed Jun 13 23:44:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6656D130E7D for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 23:44:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 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X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:03:51 -0000 If we have to snip-snap, then VIO or via wont matter since the DAO contents will be changed in either case. Do you mean that the VIOs can be individually signed since they are containerized unlike via? I m also not sure if loops can be avoided by indicating shorter lifetime when closer to egress. Imo, the bigger questions for loop formation are: a. when the nodes along the projected segment change their parent affiliation because of path changes... b. route invalidation fails midway for the projected segment... c. If the loop gets formed ... is there a detection scheme (like we have for storing mode) and any contingency handling thereafter? Also there is still the question of what to do with multiple path-sequences in multiple VIOs? Regards, Rahul On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 at 12:14, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > > Hello Rahul > > I think one intent was to easily snip snap the extra VIOs once they are consumed if we decided to do so. At the moment a node locates itself so it does not matter but that may be impractical.. > With a single VIO that would mean either massage the VIO to shrink it (and then lose chances to sign from the root in the future) or to have an segment-used field like Routing Headers do. > > Another intent was to indicate a shorter lifetime when closer to egress. The point being that the route must disappear at ingress before it disappears at egress, otherwise loops may form. > We need to add words on that. > > What do you think? > > Pascal > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rahul Jadhav > > Sent: jeudi 14 juin 2018 06:27 > > To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > > Cc: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > > Subject: Re: DAO Projection - identifying storing, non-storing P-DAO > > > > Yes, using new type (SRVIO) is a better idea. > > Thus we can have SRVIO and VIO for non-storing and storing mode > > respectively and these options will be mutually exclusive .. i.e. when SRVIO is > > sent, there should not be any VIO in the DAO and vice-versa. > > > > For storing mode P-DAO,no is there a reason to have multiple VIOs? I mean, > > can we keep multiple vias in the same VIO? The reason for doing this is, > > currently we have different path-seq/lifetime per VIO and having it separately > > does not help. I m not sure what an implementation can do with different > > path-seq values in multiple VIO for the same target from the same originator. > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 at 18:06, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Rahul: > > > > > > As you figured, the original intent was to replace the TIO by a VIO. So yes, > > your proposal is workable. > > > An alternate could be to define a source-routed VIO (SRVIO) with Type = 0xB > > and keep the current VIO for storing mode only. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > Pascal > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Rahul Jadhav > > > > Sent: mercredi 13 juin 2018 13:58 > > > > To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > > > > Cc: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > > > > Subject: Re: DAO Projection - identifying storing, non-storing P-DAO > > > > > > > > One thing that comes to my mind is using DAO base object bits... But > > > > i m not sure if they can/should be expended for such purpose. > > > > Another option is to use TIO bits and make TIO mandatory preceding > > > > the VIOs ... Other fields such as path-seq/lifetime can also be > > > > removed from VIO and can be kept only in TIO. Anyways having a > > > > different Path-Sequence in individual VIOs does not help (not sure > > > > if having a different path lifetime in individual VIO is needed?). > > > > For current implementation, i m planning to go ahead with an extra > > > > pass/traversal over the options to check for multiple VIOs. > > > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 at 14:54, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I agree Rahul, > > > > > > > > > > I picked that method as a starting point but as I presented at the > > > > > IETF > > > > meeting I do not like it either, and it would be great that the > > > > group come up with something better. > > > > > > > > > > Would you have a particular preference based on your experience here? > > > > > > > > > > Pascal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Rahul Jadhav > > > > > > Sent: mercredi 13 juin 2018 03:55 > > > > > > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks ; > > > > > > Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > > > > > > Subject: DAO Projection - identifying storing, non-storing P-DAO > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Pascal, WG, > > > > > > > > > > > > When i started implementing storing mode P-DAO, i faced one > > > > > > problem, ... as per the draft the only way to identify storing > > > > > > P-DAO from non-storing P-DAO is that storing P-DAO has at-least > > > > > > 2 VIOs whereas non-storing P-DAO has only one VIO. > > > > > > The problem with implementation is that i need to traverse the > > > > > > whole P-DAO before i know whether it is storing or non-storing > > > > > > P-DAO and populate the route table accordingly. This way either > > > > > > i have to buffer VIO/via temporarily and then act. Otherwise i > > > > > > have to have a 2-pass traversal through the P-DAO to check > > > > > > whether it is storing or non-storing first and then act on the fields in > > later pass. > > > > > > > > > > > > If we can have a flag somewhere in the P-DAO header to signal > > > > > > storing or non- storing then it would make implementation much > > simpler. > > > > > > > > > > > > For interested ones, part implementation of DAO projection code is at: > > > > > > https://github.com/whitefield-framework/contiki/tree/dao_project > > > > > > ion It currently supports registration/unregistration of > > > > > > projected routes using non-storing P-DAO with +/- ACKing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rahul From nobody Sat Jun 16 06:41:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3FB130E5C; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 06:40:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j_dz1ifMwnK4; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 06:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD4AD130E4C; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 06:40:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.201.11]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w5GDea3T022546; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:40:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.217.114] (p5DC7E3F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.199.227.243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 417JQX0QF1zDXmJ; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:40:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 550849233.9872169-9e3b851803d32b579cef6749b2fdb0f7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.4 \(3445.8.2\)) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:40:35 +0200 To: lo <6lo@ietf.org>, tisch <6tisch@ietf.org>, lp-wan , lwip@ietf.org, Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF102: DRAFT AGENDA X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 13:40:43 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the DRAFT AGENDA for IETF102. Remember that there is still quite some potential for changes. ACE vs. DISPATCH seems to become a common occurrance; at this rate, I'll probably never see a DISPATCH meeting again. CBOR vs. 6LO is maybe just a personal problem for me, throwing in TEEP on top is a bit weird, though. 6TISCH vs. SUIT is probably painful for the few individuals who care about security in both. All times are EDT (UTC-0400). (You can get pure UTC times on https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc, for those who want to listen from remote.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten SATURDAY/SUNDAY -- Hackathon (including various interops) (Centre Ville) -- Sun 1800-2000: HotRFC (Viger) MONDAY, July 16, 2018 0930-1200 Morning Session I Duluth ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Laurier INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Place du Canada RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Viger SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for = Constrained Environments WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I Viger INT ipwave IP Wireless Access in Vehicular = Environments WG Place du Canada SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG 1550-1750 Afternoon Session II Viger ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Place du Canada INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG 1810-1940 Afternoon Session III Laurier GEN rfcplusplus The label "RFC" BOF TUESDAY, July 17, 2018 0930-1200 Morning Session I Place du Canada IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting St-Paul/St-Cath RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Duluth RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I Duluth ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation = Maintenance and Extensions WG Van Horne INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of = Resource-constrained Nodes WG Laurier RTG rtgarea Routing Area Open Meeting Viger SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG 1550-1820 Afternoon Session II Place du Canada ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Viger IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum - 1720 - 1820 Centre Ville IRTF icnrg Information-Centric Networking Van Horne SEC acme Automated Certificate Management = Environment WG - 1720 - 1820 Van Horne SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG - 1550 - = 1720 Duluth TSV taps Transport Services WG WEDNESDAY, July 18, 2018 0930-1200 Morning Session I Van Horne OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG St-Paul/St-Cath RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Duluth SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG Place du Canada TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I Laurier ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Van Horne INT *** 6tisch IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE = 802.15.4e WG Centre Ville SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things = WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Centre Ville INT homenet Home Networking WG Viger TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting THURSDAY, July 19, 2018 0930-1200 Morning Session I Duluth INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service = Discovery WG Centre Ville INT *** lpwan IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks = WG Place du Canada IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Viger SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG Van Horne SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG - 0930 - = 1100 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I Centre Ville OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Viger RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Place du Canada SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 1550-1750 Afternoon Session II Viger IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing Duluth OPS driu DNS Resolver Identification and Use BOF Centre Ville TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1810-1910 Afternoon Session III Van Horne ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Place du Canada SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Centre Ville TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG FRIDAY, July 20, 2018 0930-1130 Morning Session I Duluth IRTF*** dinrg Decentralized Internet Infrastructure = Proposed RG Place du Canada OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG St-Paul/St-Cath TSV rmcat RTP Media Congestion Avoidance = Techniques WG 1150-1320 Afternoon Session I Duluth INT *** lwig Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG Laurier IRTF panrg Path Aware Networking Proposed RG Centre Ville SEC tokbind Token Binding WG _______________________________________________ Ace mailing list Ace@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace From nobody Mon Jun 18 01:28:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF138130DD0 for ; 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All the best Pascal From: 6tisch <6tisch-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert (pthuber= t) Sent: vendredi 15 juin 2018 16:54 To: 6tisch@ietf.org Subject: [6tisch] WG adoption of the =93IEEE802.15.4 Informational Element = encapsulation of 6tisch Join and Enrollment Information=94 document Dear WG: As discussed during the last interim, we are calling for WG adoption of the= =93IEEE802.15.4 Informational Element encapsulation of 6tisch Join and Enr= ollment Information=94 document: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-6tisch-enrollment-enhance= d-beacon/ This work is discussed at 6TiSCH and ROLL. Please provide feedback by June = 29th, 2018, 21:00 CEST, so we can have a draft-ietf-.. published before cut= off. All the Best, Pascal and Thomas --_000_5c30416aee294b83a2c3eae9c7ec7bb9XCHALN001ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear WG :=

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I think this call is of interest for = the ROLL WG.

 

All the best

 

Pascal

 

From: 6= tisch <6tisch-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
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Subject: [6tisch] WG adoption of the =93IEEE802.15.4 Informational E= lement encapsulation of 6tisch Join and Enrollment Information=94 document<= o:p>

 

D= ear WG:

A= s discussed during the last interim, we are calling for WG adoption of the = =93IEEE802.15.4 Informational Element encapsulation of 6tisch Join and E= nrollment Information=94 document:

<= a href=3D"https://datatracker..ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-6tisch-enrollm= ent-enhanced-beacon/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-6ti= sch-enrollment-enhanced-beacon/

T= his work is discussed at 6TiSCH and ROLL. Please provide feedback by June 2= 9th, 2018, 21:00 CEST, so we can have a draft-ietf-.. published before cuto= ff.

A= ll the Best,

Pascal and Thomas=

 

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This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : Root initiated routing state in RPL Authors : Pascal Thubert Rahul Arvind Jadhav James Pylakutty Filename : draft-ietf-roll-dao-projection-04.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2018-06-19 Abstract: This document proposes a protocol extension to RPL that enables to install a limited amount of centrally-computed routes in a RPL graph, enabling loose source routing down a non-storing mode DODAG, or transversal routes inside the DODAG. As opposed to the classical route injection in RPL that are injected by the end devices, this draft enables the root of the DODAG to projects the routes that are needed on the nodes where they should be installed. 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Papadopoulos" In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:19:09 +0200 Cc: "6tisch@ietf.org" <6tisch@ietf.org>, Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Message-Id: References: To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] =?utf-8?q?=5B6tisch=5D_WG_adoption_of_the_=E2=80=9CIEEE80?= =?utf-8?q?2=2E15=2E4_Informational_Element_encapsulation_of_6tisch_Join_a?= =?utf-8?q?nd_Enrollment_Information=E2=80=9D_document?= X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:19:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_97462AEC-511C-4724-82D1-2C1149434993 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hello, I like this work and I found it useful.=20 Some points that we discussed at the IETF 101 in London is already = included, e.g., pan priority, rank priority. Cheers, Georgios > On Jun 15, 2018, at 16:53, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) = wrote: >=20 > Dear WG: >=20 > As discussed during the last interim, we are calling for WG adoption = of the =93IEEE802.15.4 Informational Element encapsulation of 6tisch = Join and Enrollment Information=94 document: >=20 > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-6tisch-enrollment-enhanc= ed-beacon/ = > This work is discussed at 6TiSCH and ROLL. Please provide feedback by = June 29th, 2018, 21:00 CEST, so we can have a draft-ietf-.. published = before cutoff. >=20 > All the Best, >=20 > Pascal and Thomas > =20 > _______________________________________________ > 6tisch mailing list > 6tisch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch = --Apple-Mail=_97462AEC-511C-4724-82D1-2C1149434993 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hello,

I = like this work and I found it useful. 
Some = points that we discussed at the IETF 101 in London is already included, = e.g., pan priority, rank priority.

Cheers,
Georgios


On Jun 15, 2018, at 16:53, = Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Dear WG:

As discussed during the last interim, we are calling for WG = adoption of the =93IEEE802.15.4 Informational Element = encapsulation of 6tisch Join and Enrollment Information=94 = document:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-6tisch-enroll= ment-enhanced-beacon/

This work is discussed at 6TiSCH and ROLL. Please provide = feedback by June 29th, 2018, 21:00 CEST, so we can have a draft-ietf-.. = published before cutoff.

All the Best,

Pascal and Thomas
 
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6tisch@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch

= --Apple-Mail=_97462AEC-511C-4724-82D1-2C1149434993-- From nobody Fri Jun 22 06:35:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78F7130E5D; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 06:34:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6L9wWsXwr2BL; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 06:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-7.cisco.com (alln-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.142.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02BBF130E58; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 06:34:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=7092; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1529674498; x=1530884098; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=XPCgKwEoBTsrTj2mdhTdzZd59wsfadFWQwU1xaiNSrE=; b=ZD2YRWBEWyGA4qeLpsDxLljDqDEumevr5JwTT28pvMcDjoQ24nx1u0ko e5am2XLN9c/O+xfcWfAeLrk0rk/n+IPX5eX3pRBUqm3RRgh3Qua0tw1Pq WTzkfBKvzwjJZTYkiAkD06pvnh8RcpIZzD+Uq86B6iyT/fcPBY4aIO8qB g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DsAAB5+Sxb/4ENJK1cGQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQcBAQEBAYJTdmJ/KAqFToYljD+CBY99hQMUgWULJYMQgTcCgwAhNBg?= =?us-ascii?q?BAgEBAQEBAQJtHAELhSgBAQEBAx0QTBACAQgRBAEBJAsyHQgBAQQOBQiDHoE?= =?us-ascii?q?bZA+uEYhDgQAFiFSBVD+BD4JhLoFBgVcCAwGBJIVuIAKZJgkChXuJC4FHhAG?= =?us-ascii?q?IAYodhxwCERMBgSQdOIFScBWDIoJJiEiFPm+PEoEaAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.51,257,1526342400"; d="scan'208,217";a="132691862" Received: from alln-core-9.cisco.com ([173.36.13.129]) by alln-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Jun 2018 13:34:57 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com (xch-aln-002.cisco.com [173.36.7.12]) by alln-core-9.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w5MDYuSl023945 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:34:57 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com (173.36.7.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 08:34:56 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1320.000; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 08:34:56 -0500 From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" To: "6tisch@ietf.org" <6tisch@ietf.org> CC: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Thread-Topic: =?Windows-1252?Q?WG_adoption_of_the_=93IEEE802.15.4_Informational_Element?= =?Windows-1252?Q?_encapsulation_of_6tisch_Join_and_Enrollment_Information?= =?Windows-1252?Q?=94_document?= Thread-Index: AdQEuBvEiSkkDPm6TquPEIhIn7E73wFdRQpw Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:34:42 +0000 Deferred-Delivery: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:33:41 +0000 Message-ID: <935869762aa840bfb67194189c60717c@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.61.226.123] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_935869762aa840bfb67194189c60717cXCHRCD001ciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] =?windows-1252?q?WG_adoption_of_the_=93IEEE802=2E15=2E4_I?= =?windows-1252?q?nformational_Element_encapsulation_of_6tisch_Join_and_En?= =?windows-1252?q?rollment_Information=94_document?= X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:35:01 -0000 --_000_935869762aa840bfb67194189c60717cXCHRCD001ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi: 6TiSCH hat chair off, and as a ROLL participant as well, I support the adop= tion. Note that the ROLL impact has to do with fast DODAG selection in a mu= ltitenant radio environment. Cheers, Pascal From: 6tisch <6tisch-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert (pthuber= t) Sent: vendredi 15 juin 2018 16:54 To: 6tisch@ietf.org Subject: [6tisch] WG adoption of the =93IEEE802.15.4 Informational Element = encapsulation of 6tisch Join and Enrollment Information=94 document Dear WG: As discussed during the last interim, we are calling for WG adoption of the= =93IEEE802.15.4 Informational Element encapsulation of 6tisch Join and Enr= ollment Information=94 document: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-6tisch-enrollment-enhance= d-beacon/ This work is discussed at 6TiSCH and ROLL. Please provide feedback by June = 29th, 2018, 21:00 CEST, so we can have a draft-ietf-.. published before cut= off. All the Best, Pascal and Thomas --_000_935869762aa840bfb67194189c60717cXCHRCD001ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi:

 

6TiSCH hat chair off, and as a ROLL p= articipant as well, I support the adoption. Note that the ROLL impact has t= o do with fast DODAG selection in a multitenant radio environment.

 

Cheers,

 

Pascal

 

From: 6tisch <6tisch-bounces@ietf= .org> On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Sent: vendredi 15 juin 2018 16:54
To: 6tisch@ietf.org
Subject: [6tisch] WG adoption of the =93IEEE802.15.4 Informational E= lement encapsulation of 6tisch Join and Enrollment Information=94 document<= o:p>

 

Dear WG:

As discussed during the last i= nterim, we are calling for WG adoption of the =93IEEE802.15.4 Informatio= nal Element encapsulation of 6tisch Join and Enrollment Information=94 = document:

https:/= /datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-6tisch-enrollment-enhanced-beaco= n/

This work is discussed at 6TiS= CH and ROLL. Please provide feedback by June 29th, 2018, 21:00 CEST, so we = can have a draft-ietf-.. published before cutoff.

All the Best,

Pascal and Thomas

 

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IMPORTANT DATES --------------- Deadline for paper submission: 31 July 2018 Notification deadline: 1 October 2018 Registration Opens: 1 October 2018 Camera-ready deadline: 1 November 2018 SESSION CHAIR -------------------- Ombretta Gaggi - Universita  di Padova, Italy Antonio Roda  - Universita  di Padova, Italy -- Giacomo Quadrio Ph.D student University of Padua Department of Mathematics Via Trieste, 63 - Office 731 35121, Padua, Italy From nobody Fri Jun 22 08:20:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C92C12D7F8 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:11:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BfAfHhgoyXPV for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AF63128BAC for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id A61C4B817B6; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:11:09 -0700 (PDT) To: pthubert@cisco.com, cabo@tzi.org, Laurent.Toutain@IMT-Atlantique.fr, robert.cragie@arm.com, db3546@att.com, aretana.ietf@gmail.com, martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, mariainesrobles@googlemail.com, consultancy@vanderstok.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: yasuyuki.tanaka@inria.fr, roll@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20180622001109.A61C4B817B6@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 08:20:49 -0700 Subject: [Roll] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8138 (5403) X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 00:11:13 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8138, "IPv6 over Low-Power Wireless Personal Area Network (6LoWPAN) Routing Header". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5403 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Yasuyuki Tanaka Section: 5.2.3. Original Text ------------- This is encoded as S/DAC = 1 and S/AM=11. Corrected Text -------------- This is encoded as S/DAC = 1 and S/DAM=11. Notes ----- The corrected part refers to SAM and DAM defined in Section 3.1.1 of RFC 6282 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6282#section-3.1.1) Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC8138 (draft-ietf-roll-routing-dispatch-05) -------------------------------------- Title : IPv6 over Low-Power Wireless Personal Area Network (6LoWPAN) Routing Header Publication Date : April 2017 Author(s) : P. Thubert, Ed., C. Bormann, L. Toutain, R. Cragie Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Fri Jun 22 09:29:51 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD97130EA9 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:29:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.919 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.919 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tswt5Z4swfI7 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0118.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.118]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F062130EA6 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (clb03-v110.bra.tucows.net [216.40.38.60]) by smtprelay01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B5F100E86C0; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:29:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 73746F6B636F6E73406262686D61696C2E6E6C X-Spam-Summary: 50, 0, 0, , d41d8cd98f00b204, stokcons@bbhmail.nl, :::, RULES_HIT:1:2:41:69:72:152:355:379:421:453:582:599:962:967:969:973:983:988:989:1152:1189:1208:1212:1221:1260:1263:1313:1314:1345:1359:1431:1436:1437:1516:1517:1518:1575:1588:1589:1592:1594:1605:1730:1777:1792:2068:2069:2194:2198:2199:2200:2525:2527:2528:2553:2568:2627:2682:2685:2693:2741:2859:2861:2893:2906:2916:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3608:3622:3740:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4051:4250:4321:4362:4559:5007:6117:6119:6121:6235:6261:6348:6657:6659:6678:6684:7557:7602:7809:7875:7903:7974:8551:8603:8660:8957:8960:9010:9025:9030:9108:9388:10004:10049:10226:10848:11232:11658:11914:12043:12663:12740:12895:12903:13139:13148:13230:13255:13439:13972:14096:14149:14799:21063:21080:21433:21451:21627:21644:21740:21774:21795:30028:30054:30060:30070:30076:30090, 0, RBL:216.40.42.5:@bbhmail.nl:.lbl8.mailshell.net-62.8.55.100 6 X-HE-Tag: thing22_8f3bd6eee0114 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 14276 Received: from mail.bbhmail.nl (imap-ext [216.40.42.5]) (Authenticated sender: webmail@stokcons@bbhmail.nl) by omf09.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:29:44 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_a8fec12a0bc9fd1768ce51e342250e1e" Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 18:29:43 +0200 From: Peter van der Stok To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Cc: INES ROBLES Organization: vanderstok consultancy Reply-To: consultancy@vanderstok.org Mail-Reply-To: consultancy@vanderstok.org In-Reply-To: <20180622171001.Horde.NTJeIX19Tb0PRHfAgY1Ha79@webmail.math.unipd.it> References: <20180622171001.Horde.NTJeIX19Tb0PRHfAgY1Ha79@webmail.math.unipd.it> Message-ID: <6754e38b8199b26ef135ea025a450fed@bbhmail.nl> X-Sender: stokcons@bbhmail.nl User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.7 X-Originating-IP: [90.0.250.16] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] CFP: EAI GOODTECHS 2018 - Special Session on Serious Games to Improve Quality of Life (Bologna, Italy) X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:29:51 -0000 --=_a8fec12a0bc9fd1768ce51e342250e1e Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Dear gquadrio, Multiple times I have announced on this Mailing list that it is a good habit to ask permission to publish a CFP on the roll ML. Most people seem to be aware of this. We would have refused this CFP because it is only VERY remotely associated with ROLL subjects. Please think of the others and try not to turn this ML into an advertisement shop. Thank you very much for your comprehension, peter gquadrio@math.unipd.it schreef op 2018-06-22 17:10: > [Apologies for multiple copies] > > **NEWS** > Papers accepted for presentation at GoodTechs conference will be published in ACM Digital Library. > Best papers will be invited to submit an extended version of the paper to appear in a Special Issue of "Mobile Networks and Applications" (MONET) Journal. > > Deadline for paper submission: 31 July 2018 > > Goodtechs 18 > > 4th EAI International Conference on > Smart Objects and Technologies for Social Good > Special Session on Serious Games to Improve Quality of Life > http://goodtechs.eu/ > > CALL FOR PAPERS > > Gamification techniques and serious games are often used to capture and maintain user's attention. This is particularly important when dealing with young patients or people with special needs. > Patient's collaboration is crucial for doctors to perform a good diagnosis, and to provide an efficient therapy, but it cannot always be taken for granted. Moreover, serious games are proved to be an efficient tool to incentivize people to improve their lifestyle, e.g., making more physical activity. > This track will feature new insights, research, and practice on how to design, develop and use gamification and persuasive technologies to create serious games and applications to improve individuals' Quality of Life (QoL) and behavior, with a particular focus on people with disabilities. > The track targets researchers, doctoral students, practitioners and other people interested in presenting, discussing, reflecting and networking on central themes associated with the development and use of serious games and applications to help people with special needs. > Papers on both theoretical aspects and design method of gamification techniques and serious games are welcomed, which describe and evaluate novel design methods and system prototypes. In addition, the track welcomes full research and work in progress papers and educational cases. > > GoodTechs 18 will be held in Bologna, Italy, from the 28th to 30th of Novembre 2018. > > TOPICS > ------ > > Suggested topics include (but are not limited to): > > - Serious game design for better lifestyle promotion > - Serious games for people with disability > - Games for Education and Learning > - Gamification > - Pervasive Systems > - Assistive Technologies > - Persuasive solutions > - Methods, models and principles for gamification design > - Usability and accessibility issues > - Games for Health and Well-Being > - Serious Games for social inclusion > > SUBMISSION > ---------- > > - Regular papers should be up to 6 pages in length. > - Short papers should be up to 4 pages in length. > - The paper submissions must follow the ACM formatting guidelines (http://goodtechs.eu/authors-kit/) > > Papers must be submitted online on Confy (http://confy.eai.eu/), selecting GoodTechs 2018 and the Special Issue on "Serious Games to Improve Quality of Life". > > Submissions will be reviewed anonymously by at least three expert reviewers. Papers will be judged on originality, correctness, clarity and relevance. Submission of the paper implies agreement of the author(s) to attend the conference and present the paper if accepted. > > Papers accepted for presentation at GoodTechs conference will be published in Springer and indexed by ACM Digital Library. > Moreover, authors of the selected best papers will be asked to write an extended version of the paper to appear in a Special Issue of "Mobile Networks and Applications" (MONET) Journal and "Multimedia Tools and Applications" (MTAP) journal. > > IMPORTANT DATES > --------------- > > Deadline for paper submission: 31 July 2018 > Notification deadline: 1 October 2018 > Registration Opens: 1 October 2018 > Camera-ready deadline: 1 November 2018 > > SESSION CHAIR > -------------------- > > Ombretta Gaggi - Universita di Padova, Italy > Antonio Roda - Universita di Padova, Italy --=_a8fec12a0bc9fd1768ce51e342250e1e Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Dear gquadrio,

Multiple times I have announced on this Mailing l= ist that it is a good habit to ask permission to publish a CFP on the roll = ML.
Most people seem to be aware of this.
We would have refused t= his CFP because it is only VERY remotely associated with ROLL subjects.

Please think of the others and try not to turn this ML into an adve= rtisement shop.

Thank you very much for your comprehension,

peter

gquadrio@math.unipd.it schreef op 2018-06-22 17:10:

=
[Apologies for multipl= e copies]

**NEW= S**
Papers accepted for presentation at GoodTechs conference w= ill be  published in ACM Digital Library.
Best papers will be in= vited to submit an extended version of the paper  to appear in a Speci= al Issue of "Mobile Networks and Applications"  (MONET) Journal.
=
Deadline for paper&nbs= p;submission: 31 July 2018


   Goodtechs 18

   4th EAI&= nbsp;International Conference on
   Smart Objects and Technol= ogies for Social Good
   Special Session on Serious = ;Games to Improve Quality of Life
   http://goodtechs.eu/

   CALL&n= bsp;FOR PAPERS

Gamification techniques and serious = games are often used to capture  and maintain user's attention. This i= s particularly important when  dealing with young patients or people w= ith special needs.
Patient's collaboration is crucial for doctors to = perform a good  diagnosis, and to provide an efficient therapy, but it= cannot always  be taken for granted. Moreover, serious games are prov= ed to be an  efficient tool to incentivize people to improve their lif= estyle, e.g.,  making more physical activity.
This track will fe= ature new insights, research, and practice on how to  design, develop = and use gamification and persuasive technologies to  create serious ga= mes and applications to improve individuals' Quality  of Life (QoL) an= d behavior, with a particular focus on people with  disabilities.
The track targets researchers, doctoral students, practitioners and  = ;other people interested in presenting, discussing, reflecting and  ne= tworking on central themes associated with the development and use  of= serious games and applications to help people with special needs.
Pa= pers on both theoretical aspects and design method of gamification  te= chniques and serious games are welcomed, which describe and evaluate  = novel design methods and system prototypes. In addition, the track  we= lcomes full research and work in progress papers and educational  case= s.

GoodTechs 18 will be held in Bologna, Italy, from the 28th t= o 30th of  Novembre 2018.

TOPICS
------

Suggested topics include (but are not lim= ited to):

 = ;  - Serious game design for better = ;lifestyle promotion
=    - Serious games for people with&= nbsp;disability
 &nbs= p; - Games for Education and Learning<= br />   - Gamifica= tion
   -&n= bsp;Pervasive Systems
   - Assistive Technologies
   - Persuasive soluti= ons
   -&nb= sp;Methods, models and principles for gamification=  design
  &= nbsp;- Usability and accessibility issues
<= span style=3D"white-space: nowrap;">   - Games for=  Health and Well-Being
   - Serious Games for socia= l inclusion


SUBMISSION
----------

   - Regular papers should be=  up to 6 pages in length.
   - Short papers&nb= sp;should be up to 4 pages in length.
   - The paper submissions must follow the ACM fo= rmatting guidelines  (http://goodtechs.eu/authors-kit/)

Papers must be submitted online on Confy (http://confy.eai.eu/),=  selecting GoodTechs 2018 and the Special Issue on "Serious Games to =  Improve Quality of Life".

Submissions will be reviewed an= onymously by at least three expert  reviewers. Papers will be judged o= n originality, correctness, clarity  and relevance. Submission of the = paper implies agreement of the  author(s) to attend the conference and= present the paper if accepted.

Papers accepted for presentatio= n at GoodTechs conference will be  published in Springer and indexed b= y ACM Digital Library.
Moreover, authors of the selected best papers = will be asked to write  an extended version of the paper to appear in = a Special Issue of  "Mobile Networks and Applications" (MONET) Journal= and "Multimedia  Tools and Applications" (MTAP) journal.

<= br />IMPORTANT DATES
= ---------------

Deadline for paper submissi= on: 31 July 2018
Notification deadline: 1 October 2018
Registration Opens: 1 = October 2018
Camera-r= eady deadline: 1 November 2018

SESSION CHAIR
--------------------

Ombretta Gaggi - Universita =  di Padova, Italy
Antonio Roda  - Universita  di Pa= dova, Italy
--=_a8fec12a0bc9fd1768ce51e342250e1e-- From nobody Sun Jun 24 09:20:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C16130DDA for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 09:20:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.919 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.919 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vPbQLueMLxHB for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 09:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0232.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8612B130E11 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 09:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (clb03-v110.bra.tucows.net [216.40.38.60]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C228837F27B; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 16:20:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 73746F6B636F6E73406262686D61696C2E6E6C X-Spam-Summary: 50, 0, 0, , d41d8cd98f00b204, stokcons@bbhmail.nl, :::, RULES_HIT:41:72:152:355:379:582:800:962:967:969:973:983:988:989:1152:1189:1208:1221:1260:1263:1313:1314:1345:1431:1436:1437:1516:1517:1518:1534:1542:1575:1588:1589:1592:1594:1711:1730:1776:1792:2198:2199:2525:2527:2561:2564:2682:2685:2829:2859:2898:2911:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3586:3740:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3873:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4321:4425:4605:4659:5007:6117:6261:6298:6659:6678:6684:8603:9015:9025:9177:9388:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12043:12050:12555:12679:12895:12986:13139:13199:13229:13439:13846:14096:14181:14721:21063:21080:21433:21451:21524:21525:21611:21625:21691:30048:30054:30070, 0, RBL:216.40.42.5:@bbhmail.nl:.lbl8.mailshell.net-62.8.55.100 66.201.201.201, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:fn, MSBL:0, DNSBL:neutral, Custom_rules:0:0:0, LFtime:25, LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: suit99_1df7220d7290e X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 4536 Received: from mail.bbhmail.nl (imap-ext [216.40.42.5]) (Authenticated sender: webmail@stokcons@bbhmail.nl) by omf08.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 16:20:05 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_ec0d1e579948d946845000fccd4f9e3b" Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 18:20:05 +0200 From: Peter van der Stok To: Roll Cc: INES ROBLES Organization: vanderstok consultancy Reply-To: consultancy@vanderstok.org Mail-Reply-To: consultancy@vanderstok.org Message-ID: <1061f1dfbc8d953430d19fea390e3920@bbhmail.nl> X-Sender: stokcons@bbhmail.nl User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.7 X-Originating-IP: [90.0.250.16] Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] roll ietf 102 meeting subjects X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 16:20:13 -0000 --=_ec0d1e579948d946845000fccd4f9e3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Dear Roll WG. Two and a half hours have been allocated to the ROLL meeting during ietf 102 at Montreal. We would like to have presentations for the following subjects * BIER ROLL design team, 30 mins? * Rahul, DAO projection, should be close to WGLC * Charlie, AODV-RPL; 10-15 mins, Last structural decisions * Rahul, RPL-observations, WG doc? * Dominique?, DIS modification, promise to continue * Peter, MPL-YANG, revision after yang doctors review * And some more drafts, presented during ietf101 in London. 7) Additional drafts, e.g. the ones presented during IETF 101 in London. RPL-Info should be in IESG review. Please let us know if you want to present your draft, the time you need and the purpose of the presentation. Many thanks, Ines and Peter -- Peter van der Stok vanderstok consultancy mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org www: www.vanderstok.org [1] tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 Links: ------ [1] http://www.vanderstok.org --=_ec0d1e579948d946845000fccd4f9e3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

Dear Roll WG.

Two and a half hours have been allocat= ed to the ROLL meeting during ietf 102 at Montreal.

We would like to have presentations fo= r the following subjects

  1. BIER ROLL= design team, 30 mins?
  2. Rahul, &n= bsp;DAO projection, should be close to WGLC
  3. Charlie, = AODV-RPL; 10-15 mins, Last structural decisions
  4. Rahul, RP= L-observations, WG doc?
  5. Dominique= ?, DIS modification, promise to continue
  6. Peter, MP= L-YANG, revision after yang doctors review
  7. And some = more drafts, presented during ietf101 in London.

      &= nbsp;7) Additional drafts, e.g. the ones presented during IETF 101 in Londo= n.

RPL-Info should be in IESG review.

Please let us know if you want to pres= ent your draft, the time you need and the purpose of the presentation.


Many thanks,

Ines and Peter

--
= Peter van der Stok
vanderstok consultancy
mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org
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--=_ec0d1e579948d946845000fccd4f9e3b-- From nobody Sun Jun 24 10:02:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEFA130E16 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 10:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lkdS256Enyv3 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 10:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AA80130E12 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 10:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBE920090; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 13:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id D526C17F3; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CB61276; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:59:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: consultancy@vanderstok.org cc: Roll , INES ROBLES In-Reply-To: <1061f1dfbc8d953430d19fea390e3920@bbhmail.nl> References: <1061f1dfbc8d953430d19fea390e3920@bbhmail.nl> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:59:29 -0400 Message-ID: <5491.1529859569@localhost> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] roll ietf 102 meeting subjects X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 17:02:38 -0000 Peter van der Stok wrote: > 4 Rahul, RPL-observations, WG doc? Could we just start a WG adoption call now? -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [