From nobody Sun Dec 2 09:58:02 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2932B1277BB for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 09:58:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K01l5wr30LXb for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 09:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ua1-x92e.google.com (mail-ua1-x92e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8AAB1241F6 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 09:57:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ua1-x92e.google.com with SMTP id d19so3612739uaq.11 for ; Sun, 02 Dec 2018 09:57:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9F2+FftfO+lM0JRgWM+s35AKxZywDUDOg2BMY7LpGXg=; b=gWTjx4K8j8PhfQpw9/eRg3z4P2XtUcqjhhdpERs8jHjSnSXeSBlmHdRD+ylIzGHGeS I2rj2rFQO1yKgD3/OeDReDnA1ECXZacL0/2Ytiya0sdPgJc+9ALHFXjyskpBsRZ8TDYC lWSG5GPaSEzFuk9E4U4vKmx5bq3O36kK8kTDaoOtebHdmY5t4gnROrB+A/hBtSnBKUEp 6DufMigb/VzSSTZmnaL6CK1c4dbWjZpWipsYvw/eI8mnKDKn8Rq6Tjm45Ndt8p0CfoKq XVWhUroB+QlTVga3fXHMRUJ1DjrRU3XNpCvj9TK1rGXYUZ2kmQUwqnYVqOak4FzmAMvi Mijw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9F2+FftfO+lM0JRgWM+s35AKxZywDUDOg2BMY7LpGXg=; b=mmftCpv2RLlTjcYqUXfwiPHfTHQZMPhkI2C84jLE8zW9EM8Vx9TqrRipZKNVq4/l0I YO6yolbIfCB1IG9Rb46rCAPuaO/aH+X0vFUrGWUkjsB+cM87S80WicjMM7asb9wlZVCT fSQ+GBEJOl6UFxDFaAQNnEUDimlJSbxnASOrMT7GwYbanzNbmHBSoxG2HQ0oa/qODcmJ qArSyg8sCMW3ZwCRnf+KMTQ3TRDGYGpyCekmzu5+NlBOnGblbsddINP2G8RfJdGvUO5l Ha/himSoHjsM6+71AS+3mNEdIqBLoQj8X6Gr9ampKsJ95keyMSFSsnYcmtlOnvv9C4z2 HAcg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWaOowYqLoODA/9RbGrCkfoItN0QLEVl3qEs0rReYgj45ccEzr2C S/dN4Qgj0j+XJ+600txAQCgHb8pXkcMGjPm9/KBQjg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/XX9/g8pl0w9WuZ5/TpHbuCGtXBrRlzbHOIdt/HNkwbPWqi77u6ECmxPSvptqPhleZJRHLle5BFdrU+CDPvk98= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:15ab:: with SMTP id i40mr5602470uae.70.1543773476648; Sun, 02 Dec 2018 09:57:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Rahul Jadhav Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 23:27:45 +0530 Message-ID: To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b079a9057c0dc5bd" Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 17:58:00 -0000 --000000000000b079a9057c0dc5bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Pascal, WG, This mail is regarding concern on how to handle MOP exhaustion in DIO. With AODV-RPL and DAO-projection we would essentially use up all the possible MOP values. This point was raised in ROLL-sessions before but we haven't really discussed this on ML. To begin with, I was wondering, do we really need new MOPs for dao-projection? Can we handle dao-projection as something which can be incrementally added to existing MOPs? For e.g. if the network is established in NS-MOP (non-storing MOP=1) then we can use P-DAO to project routes down the network and if the destination legacy node does not understand P-DAO then it should send a negative ACK for the DAO. Problem is, right now i don't see how legacy nodes (who dont understand new RPO options) can distinguish between P-DAO and normal DAO. As i understand, the new MOP is required because of this new mandatory handling required for P-DAOs. Is it possible to have P-DAO such that legacy nodes generate negative ACK if they cannot handle it? Also currently we have two types of storing MOPs (in 6550), one with multicast (MOP=3) and one without multicast (MOP=2). DAO-Projection defines only one storing MOP. Thus as i understand in DAO-Projection draft the storing MOP has multicast support by default. Is this ok to assume? Regards, Rahul --000000000000b079a9057c0dc5bd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Pascal, WG,

This mail is regarding c= oncern on how to handle MOP exhaustion in DIO. With AODV-RPL and DAO-projec= tion we would essentially use up all the possible MOP values. This point wa= s raised in ROLL-sessions before but we haven't really discussed this o= n ML.

To begin with, I was wondering, do we really= need new MOPs for dao-projection?
Can we handle dao-projection a= s something which can be incrementally added to existing MOPs? For e.g. if = the network is established in NS-MOP (non-storing MOP=3D1) then we can use = P-DAO to project routes down the network and if the destination legacy node= does not understand P-DAO then it should send a negative ACK for the DAO. = Problem is, right now i don't see how legacy nodes (who dont understand= new RPO options) can distinguish between P-DAO and normal DAO.=C2=A0
=
As i understand, the new MOP is required because of this new mandatory= handling required for P-DAOs. Is it possible to have P-DAO such that legac= y nodes generate negative ACK if they cannot handle it?

Also currently we have two types of storing MOPs (in 6550), one with = multicast (MOP=3D3) and one without multicast (MOP=3D2). DAO-Projection def= ines only one storing MOP. Thus as i understand in DAO-Projection draft the= storing MOP has multicast support by default. Is this ok to assume?
<= div>
Regards,
Rahul
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There are some design decisions that have to be taken and we would appreciate any feedback. Continuing the discussion... Please find my comments inline below. Regards, Rahul On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 19:29, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > Hello Rahul > > > > *From:* Rahul Jadhav > *Sent:* lundi 10 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 17:29 > *To:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) ; Rahul Arvind Jadhav > > *Subject:* Re: DAO-Projection loop handling > > > > Interesting! If we disallow placing the packet back in normal routing, > then it does solve the loop problem in case of hop-by-hop projected routi= ng. > > As you mentioned, RPI can be put to use. Single bit should suffice. > Anyways this RPI bit is in context to the corresponding RPLInstanceId. > > *[PT>] yes. The alternate is to use a separate instance. A packet can be > placed from the normal instance to the RP one but not the other way aroun= d. > We need to cc the list on a conversation like this. Do you mind?* > [RJ]: I didn't understand how can a separate instance be used. Which message will declare a separate instance? Do you mean the P-DAO will be sent on a separate instance? Not clear on how these semantics be handled. The RPLInstanceID in DAO is learned from DIO and cannot be changed (because it carries corresponding metrics/constraints/OF association). > One more doubt i have is in context to proactive clearing of routing > entries directly on realizing that the target on the projected-path is no= t > reachable. > > *[PT>] the =E2=80=98F=E2=80=99 bit can be used as specified in RFC 6550* > > > The problem here is that there could be two targets with common network > segment (with hop-by-hop routing) in between and thus proactive cleanup m= ay > not be possible. What do you think? There are some ways to handle these > scenarios. > > Do you think this warrants a text in the draft?I have this point in my > todo list. > > *[PT>] Yes.* > > > Also do you think i should add text for disallowing the packet back in > normal routing and corresponding RPI semantics? > > *[PT>] Yes, please check the text I already wrote on that matter. Not sur= e > I wrote it but I thought so load that maybe it got there!* > [RJ] Ok > > > *Take care;* > > > > *Pascal* > > > > Regards, > > Rahul > > p.s. i got a mail rgding draft expiry. so i can target end of this week > for an update. > > > > > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 11:59, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < > pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: > > We need to talk Rahul! > > > > This is important text; I tried to put provisions for loop avoidance > already by forcing strict hop by hop routes, loose only if the hops are > separated by strict source routes. > > > > If the packets can be tagged as following a projected route then we can > disallow placing the packet back in normal routing and thus avoid loops. > > It would be good to move the existing text I had to your session. Then we > need to decide how to tag the packets placed into projected routes. Maybe > the last bit in the RPI? > > > > Pascal > > > Le 7 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 09:50, Rahul Jadhav a = =C3=A9crit : > > Hi Pascal, > > > > I have started adding loop-handling section in the dao-projection draft. > > > > Please review the PR and would like to get any feedback. > > https://github.com/roll-wg/dao-projection/pull/1 > > > > Please note there will be more updates to these sections in next few days= . > > > > Regards, > > Rahul > > > > --000000000000eb69ae057cae377d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Pascal,

<<CCing ROLL herewi= th>>
@ROLL, This mail discussion is related to loop handlin= g with DAO projection. There are some design decisions that have to be take= n and we would appreciate any feedback.

Contin= uing the discussion... Please find my comments inline below.

=
Regards,
Rahul

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 19:29, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) = <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:=

Hello Rahul

=C2=A0

From: Rahul Jadhav <rahul.ietf@gmail.com>
Sent: lundi 10 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 17:29
To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com>; Rahul Arvind Jadhav <<= a href=3D"mailto:rahul.jadhav@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">rahul.jadhav@hu= awei.com>
Subject: Re: DAO-Projection loop handling

=C2=A0

Interesting! If we disallow placing the packet back = in normal routing, then it does solve the loop problem in case of hop-by-ho= p projected routing.

As you mentioned, RPI can be put to use. Single bit = should suffice. Anyways this RPI bit is in context to the corresponding RPL= InstanceId.

[PT>] yes. The alterna= te is to use a separate instance. A packet can be placed from the normal in= stance to the RP one but not the other way around. We need to cc the list o= n a conversation like this. Do you mind?

[RJ]: I didn't understand how can a sep= arate instance be used. Which message will declare a separate instance? Do = you mean the P-DAO will be sent on a separate instance? Not clear on how th= ese semantics be handled. The RPLInstanceID in DAO is learned from DIO and = cannot be changed (because it carries corresponding metrics/constraints/OF = association).
=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0One m= ore doubt i have is in context to proactive clearing of routing entries dir= ectly on realizing that the target on the projected-path is not reachable.= =C2=A0

[PT>] the =E2=80=98F= =E2=80=99 bit can be used as specified in RFC 6550

=

=C2=A0

The problem here is that there could be two targets = with common network segment (with hop-by-hop routing) in between and thus p= roactive cleanup may not be possible. What do you think? There are some way= s to handle these scenarios.

Do you think this warrants a text in the draft?I hav= e this point in my todo list.

[PT>] Yes.<= /b>

=C2=A0

Also do you think i should add text for disallowing = the packet back in normal routing and corresponding RPI semantics?

[PT>] Yes, please chec= k the text I already wrote on that matter. Not sure I wrote it but I though= t so load that maybe it got there!

[RJ] Ok=C2=A0

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Take care;<= /span>

=C2=A0

Pascal

=C2=A0

Regards,

Rahul

p.s. i got a mail rgding draft expiry. so i can targ= et end of this week for an update.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 11:59, Pascal Thubert (pthube= rt) <pthubert@ci= sco.com> wrote:

We need to talk Rahul!

=C2=A0

This is important text; I tried to put provisions fo= r loop avoidance already by forcing strict hop by hop routes, loose only if= the hops are separated by strict source routes.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

If the packets can be t= agged as following a projected route then we can disallow placing the packe= t back in normal routing and thus avoid loops.

It would be good to move the existing text I had to = your session. Then we need to decide how to tag the packets placed into pro= jected routes. Maybe the last bit in the RPI?

=C2=A0

Pascal


Le 7 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 09:50, Rahul Jadhav <rahul.ietf@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit= =C2=A0:

Hi Pascal,=C2=A0

=C2=A0

I have started adding loop-handling section in the d= ao-projection draft.

=C2=A0

Please review the PR and would like to get any feedb= ack.

=C2=A0

Please note there will be more updates to these sect= ions in next few days.

=C2=A0

Regards,

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--000000000000eb69ae057cae377d-- From nobody Sun Dec 16 12:06:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AB512D4F0 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 12:06:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=imt-atlantique.fr Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SUTp2ZEesfkT for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 12:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from zproxy110.enst.fr (zproxy110.enst.fr [137.194.2.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C6FF12D4EA for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 12:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zproxy110.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8238189B for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:06:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from zproxy110.enst.fr ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (zproxy110.enst.fr [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id gY2a3GCmLx49 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:06:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zproxy110.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD7781967 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:06:49 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 zproxy110.enst.fr 1CD7781967 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imt-atlantique.fr; s=50EA75E8-DE22-11E6-A6DE-0662BA474D24; t=1544990809; bh=px3weC9KRhY8+ty5mjNYf/cKWxaHBmzg7iE3b7xOucA=; h=MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID:To; b=oKCk1Vs+isTGfI7SL6aaT8SZuQnkM0+Fpqf3q7nwwkwfKZMDHUZEp0GgF5poYEL6i eh8Od6IvEuoBkjZHZMO/Urku2UYdKWud3RsqzZyZ0Bf1HcqyU3WlVA0QcBX/Ll1BgR DtEV8pjcI/aABtuD43zUnAO9QvwCume1Va8WwSgM= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zproxy110.enst.fr Received: from zproxy110.enst.fr ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (zproxy110.enst.fr [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id NbU4IeUKDkcd for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:06:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-io1-f47.google.com (mail-io1-f47.google.com [209.85.166.47]) by zproxy110.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B7B8A8189B for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:06:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-io1-f47.google.com with SMTP id o13so8483623ioh.2 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 12:06:48 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWbeIxzjMyriXDQoZLWlYBmYKJa6VhjlFEjmRCbIQkA5CdpU0c5B BUYN7KiI8GngrzoPteh/qBA3PGCaQ/3orpkBMq8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/UFHnuYchxB7uMab75ohD8z+hahLK9CNDSeTcxoI5qL/jPaiZcxI6vTCcDULPUPoJ72zOwBZgxJXlXWStVyjSE= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:600b:: with SMTP id r11mr9711991iog.259.1544990807376; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 12:06:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Laurent Toutain Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:06:27 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: consultancy@vanderstok.org, Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000414eb5057d293477" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] call for adoption draft-koutsiamanis-roll-nsa-extension X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:06:54 -0000 --000000000000414eb5057d293477 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I support this work, it is helpful for routing decisions. Laurent On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:33 AM Peter van der Stok wrote: > Dear all, > > This is a call for adoption of > the draft-koutsiamanis-roll-nsa-extension-04, it runs from 11-26-2018 to > 01-11-2019. > > html: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-koutsiamanis-roll-nsa-extension-04 > > Please let us know whether you support this work or not - we got during > IETF 103 good support for adoption and now we request confirmation of that > by mailing list -. > > Thanks, > > Ines and Peter. > > PS. Apologies for multiple messages; There are problems with reception of > Roll ML messages. > > > Peter > -- > Peter van der Stok > vanderstok consultancy > mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org, stokcons@bbhmail.nl > www: www.vanderstok.org > tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --000000000000414eb5057d293477 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I support this work, it = is helpful for routing decisions.=C2=A0

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On Tue, N= ov 27, 2018 at 10:33 AM Peter van der Stok <stokcons@bbhmail.nl> wrote:
Dear all,=C2=A0
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This is a call for adoption of the=C2=A0draft-koutsiamanis-roll-nsa-ex= tension-04, it runs from 11-26-2018 to 01-11-2019.=C2=A0=C2=A0
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Please let us know whether you support this work or not - we got durin= g IETF 103 good support for adoption and now we request confirmation of tha= t by mailing list -.=C2=A0
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Thanks,
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Ines and Peter.

PS. Apologies for multiple messages; There are = problems with reception of Roll ML messages.

Peter
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Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:52:00 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain I strongly believe that we should have a specific new MOP: "Non-storing with DAO-project" -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAlwX4jIACgkQgItw+93Q 3WUQowf8DBGHdHJPxwJ8T96WKlPtcsu6SMIsrxajLwJ74HrkvMIFNhterILpNMpi Lm5r2pnC7Aax3NrIuOF12Ng23odDk1uDql+CrEoGC8dM/AN/tBSbJ3sgNqCo5Jz9 QVOqsMHLGUlH3wD2E4U/pBLcLDoRk0sT+JP6UIF8Tfrpnn06lyqyJMJ3lN11dltA xxLniaJzM4e1HPvKsSAh0igAi7gvfYuyEbsyAJlv7G9KaDWNVkXDwtNctPxPalLL l05evEIuOspo265LVOCwPkX8y488y8fFHXw6S2OKY8K4xZS6zNeJLuCEHBdC42aL 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Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:21:52 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_91947116589d2364d8aaca849333614d" Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:21:51 +0100 From: Peter van der Stok To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Organization: vanderstok consultancy Reply-To: consultancy@vanderstok.org Mail-Reply-To: consultancy@vanderstok.org In-Reply-To: References: <0cb3313f79eb475090937a932b793efc@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com>, <16712.1545069107@localhost> <6811D20F-DC62-4E16-86EE-684BD288E2CF@cisco.com> <982B626E107E334DBE601D979F31785C5DD4D8E0@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> Message-ID: <6d94c7568cfded1bf371746d705d87a4@bbhmail.nl> X-Sender: stokcons@bbhmail.nl User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.7 X-Originating-IP: [5.206.216.229] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: 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What do others think? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roll On Behalf Of Rahul Arvind Jadhav > Sent: mardi 18 décembre 2018 04:52 > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs > > I'm wondering apart from MOP extension, it would be nice to have capability > flags in DIO. > 1. Capabilities field can work with ext-MOP to handshake additional > capabilities .. > 2. Even leaf nodes can understand capabilities ... unlike MOP which is relevant > only to routers. > Capabilities may be optional to support unlike MOP which is mandatory to be > supported if the node is to be a 6LR in the instance. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert > (pthubert) > Sent: 18 December 2018 01:27 > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs > > I agree Michael > > Trouble is that there is no room left in MOP space (3 bits). We'll > soon need to define a value to mean extended. > > Regards, > > Pascal > > Le 17 déc. 2018 à 18:52, Michael Richardson > a écrit : > > I strongly believe that we should have a specific new MOP: > "Non-storing with DAO-project" > > -- > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list Roll@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list Roll@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll --=_91947116589d2364d8aaca849333614d Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 sounds reasonable,

Peter

Pascal Thubert (pthubert) schreef op 2018-12-18 08:42:

= All for it. What do others think?

-----Original Message-----
From: Roll <roll-bounces@ietf.org= > On Behalf Of Rahul Arvind Jadhav
Sent: mardi 18 décem= bre 2018 04:52
To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org>
= Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs

I'm wondering = apart from MOP extension, it would be nice to have capability
flags i= n DIO.
1. Capabilities field can work with ext-MOP to handshake addit= ional
capabilities ..
2. Even leaf nodes can understand capabil= ities ... unlike MOP which is relevant
only to routers.
Capabil= ities may be optional to support unlike MOP which is mandatory to be
= supported if the node is to be a 6LR in the instance.


-----Original Message-----
From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf= =2Eorg] On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert
(pthubert)
Sent: 18 Dec= ember 2018 01:27
To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs

I agree Mich= ael

Trouble is that there is no room left in MOP space (3 bits)= =2E We'll
soon need to define a value to mean extended.

Regards,

Pascal

Le 17 déc. 2018 à 18:52, Michael Richard= son <mcr+ietf@sa= ndelman.ca>
a
écrit :


I strongly believe that we should have a = specific new MOP:
 "Non-storing with DAO-project"

--=
Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software
Works
-=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D-



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--=_91947116589d2364d8aaca849333614d-- From nobody Tue Dec 18 00:44:09 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84AA1310DC for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 00:44:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8xIioRuqXKkX for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 00:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0073.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7944113107D for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 00:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (clb03-v110.bra.tucows.net [216.40.38.60]) by smtprelay05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEA0180300F0; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:44:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 73746F6B636F6E73406262686D61696C2E6E6C X-Spam-Summary: 2, 0, 0, , d41d8cd98f00b204, stokcons@bbhmail.nl, :::, RULES_HIT:41:152:355:379:582:962:967:988:989:1152:1189:1221:1260:1313:1314:1345:1359:1381:1436:1437:1516:1517:1518:1534:1538:1559:1575:1588:1589:1592:1594:1711:1714:1730:1749:1777:1792:2528:2559:2562:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3622:3690:3865:3866:3868:3874:5007:6261:6678:8603:10004:10400:10848:11658:11914:12043:12114:13071:13439:14180:14721:21060:21080:21433:21451:21627:21740:30034:30054:30070, 0, RBL:216.40.42.5:@bbhmail.nl:.lbl8.mailshell.net-62.8.55.100 66.201.201.201, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:fn, MSBL:0, DNSBL:neutral, Custom_rules:0:0:0, LFtime:27, LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: help05_5e040c7a8f33a X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2143 Received: from mail.bbhmail.nl (imap-ext [216.40.42.5]) (Authenticated sender: webmail@stokcons@bbhmail.nl) by omf19.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:44:06 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_5e89b58547802a178469dc07e4c6c573" Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:44:05 +0100 From: Peter van der Stok To: Roll , Remous Aris KOUTSIAMANIS Organization: vanderstok consultancy Reply-To: consultancy@vanderstok.org Mail-Reply-To: consultancy@vanderstok.org In-Reply-To: <56364403e5564f2598ca0538744a85c0@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> References: <56364403e5564f2598ca0538744a85c0@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Message-ID: <068d4d16bf22bb21e1dc48e56f3419d4@bbhmail.nl> X-Sender: stokcons@bbhmail.nl User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.7 X-Originating-IP: [5.206.216.229] Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] adoption of draft-koutsiamanis-roll-nsa-extension X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:44:09 -0000 --=_5e89b58547802a178469dc07e4c6c573 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi authors, A sufficient number of people has indicated that they support the adoption of draft-koutsiamanis-roll-nsa-extension. Can an author submit a new version as draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension. Many thanks for your work, Ines and Peter --=_5e89b58547802a178469dc07e4c6c573 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Hi authors,

A sufficient number of people has indicated that the= y support the adoption of draft-koutsiamanis-roll-nsa-extension.

Can an author submit a new version as draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension= =2E
Many thanks for your work,

Ines and Peter

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Papadopoulos" In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 10:21:40 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0cb3313f79eb475090937a932b793efc@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> <16712.1545069107@localhost> <6811D20F-DC62-4E16-86EE-684BD288E2CF@cisco.com> <982B626E107E334DBE601D979F31785C5DD4D8E0@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:21:53 -0000 Hello Pascal, I will support such document.=20 I would be happy to help. Georgios > On Dec 18, 2018, at 08:42, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) = wrote: >=20 > All for it. What do others think? >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Roll On Behalf Of Rahul Arvind Jadhav >> Sent: mardi 18 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 04:52 >> To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks >> Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs >>=20 >> I'm wondering apart from MOP extension, it would be nice to have = capability >> flags in DIO. >> 1. Capabilities field can work with ext-MOP to handshake additional >> capabilities .. >> 2. Even leaf nodes can understand capabilities ... unlike MOP which = is relevant >> only to routers. >> Capabilities may be optional to support unlike MOP which is mandatory = to be >> supported if the node is to be a 6LR in the instance. >>=20 >>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pascal = Thubert >>> (pthubert) >>> Sent: 18 December 2018 01:27 >>> To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks >>> Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs >>>=20 >>> I agree Michael >>>=20 >>> Trouble is that there is no room left in MOP space (3 bits). We=E2=80=99= ll >>> soon need to define a value to mean extended. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>>=20 >>> Pascal >>>=20 >>>> Le 17 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 18:52, Michael Richardson = >>>> a >>> =C3=A9crit : >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I strongly believe that we should have a specific new MOP: >>>> "Non-storing with DAO-project" >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software >>> Works >>>> -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D- >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Roll mailing list >>>> Roll@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Roll mailing list >>> Roll@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> _______________________________________________ >> Roll mailing list >> Roll@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll From nobody Tue Dec 18 01:29:06 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6B81310B8 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 01:29:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.96 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.96 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-1.459, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NE7Wxyrog4dW for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 01:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0D01130E66 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 01:29:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=614; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1545125344; x=1546334944; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=IIOmTwEgmxKreeVf4FROsz2wfvAAKuOB1Qzdo8KBiM0=; b=iY42bY+XBqUo2TYnOAs2RSRn33f2Q74YMn9qOWX6MYENJ5+9CePpCmxB kEnS5zRy33J8b7QKvsZkaB3qyKFwyvoxYSnz4urJOtrxzlNx9JZ+3Vwg/ bwDoB6xwSHkma7X9Zgk+SpAa7c+Fej6icdF7RsPWzg/jdre0K3b77gWMM Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AEAABxvRhc/4QNJK1kGgEBAQEBAgE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEHAgEBAQGBUQUBAQEBCwGBVS6BaIw8i3mRI4hEFIFnCwEBiAsiNAkNAQM?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQIBAQJtKIV9UQE+QicEgzWCAakrhUCEe4w/F4FAP4E4H4IehHeDcYImAok?= =?us-ascii?q?il38JAoFoiCuCFYU1GIFOkAaZRwIRFIEnHziBVnAVZQGCQpBaQY8wAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.56,367,1539648000"; d="scan'208";a="412065468" Received: from alln-core-10.cisco.com ([173.36.13.132]) by rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 18 Dec 2018 09:28:55 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-005.cisco.com (xch-aln-005.cisco.com [173.36.7.15]) by alln-core-10.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wBI9StJK000388 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:28:55 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-ALN-005.cisco.com (173.36.7.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 03:28:55 -0600 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1395.000; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 03:28:55 -0600 From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" To: ROLL WG Thread-Topic: Signaling a packet forwarded along a Projected Route Thread-Index: AQHUlrQYwjsI1mTHc0OJi+93tomdPw== Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:28:55 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 173.36.7.15, xch-aln-005.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: alln-core-10.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] Signaling a packet forwarded along a Projected Route X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:29:06 -0000 Dear all To avoid loops it is important that once a packet is placed in a projected = route it follows that till destination and does not fall back to the base R= PL topology. The authors are pondering how to make that happen. We see 2 ways: 1) A flag in the RPI but then there can be trouble between a lose storing m= ode path interconnected with strict non storing hops, since these are all p= rojected DAOs and we would not discriminate. 2) create the projected routes as different instances and allow routing fro= m the base instance into the projected ones. What do you think? Pascal= From nobody Tue Dec 18 02:44:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietf.org Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBB9131106; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 02:44:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: roll@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: roll@ietf.org Message-ID: <154512987725.19255.13089382264470188742@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 02:44:37 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension-00.txt X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 10:44:37 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : RPL DAG Metric Container Node State and Attribute object type extension Authors : Remous-Aris Koutsiamanis Georgios Papadopoulos Nicolas Montavont Pascal Thubert Filename : draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension-00.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2018-12-18 Abstract: Implementing 6TiSCH Packet Replication and Elimination from / to the RPL root requires the ability to forward copies of packets over different paths via different RPL parents. Selecting the appropriate parents to achieve ultra-low latency and jitter requires information about a node's parents. This document details what information needs to be transmitted and how it is encoded within a packet to enable this functionality. 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Thank you so much for the help and guidance during this process. Also, we would like to thank the people in the community who provided support and many helpful comments. Happy holidays! Aris On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:44 AM Peter van der Stok wrote: > Hi authors, > > A sufficient number of people has indicated that they support the adoption > of draft-koutsiamanis-roll-nsa-extension. > > Can an author submit a new version as draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension. > Many thanks for your work, > > Ines and Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --00000000000042024b057d499fdd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Ines and Peter,

we have= just submitted the replacement draft as draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension-00.<= br>

Thank you so much for the help and guidance du= ring this process.
Also, we would like to thank the people in the= community who provided support and many helpful comments.

Happy holidays!

Aris




On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:44 AM Peter van der Stok <stokcons@bbhmail.nl&g= t; wrote:
Hi authors,

A sufficient number of people has indicated that they su= pport the adoption of draft-koutsiamanis-roll-nsa-extension.

Can an = author submit a new version as=C2=A0draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension.
Many = thanks for your work,

Ines and Peter

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--00000000000042024b057d499fdd-- From nobody Tue Dec 18 08:34:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E97131142 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:34:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gFdIPzcKVHAU for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:34:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 068E5131170 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:34:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A0A2008C for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 193E9B5D; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1740B2BA for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:34:41 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks In-Reply-To: <6811D20F-DC62-4E16-86EE-684BD288E2CF@cisco.com> References: <0cb3313f79eb475090937a932b793efc@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com>, <16712.1545069107@localhost> <6811D20F-DC62-4E16-86EE-684BD288E2CF@cisco.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:34:49 -0000 Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > Trouble is that there is no room left in MOP space (3 bits). We=E2=80= =99ll soon > need to define a value to mean extended. 3bits =3D 8 choices. We have four choices now. Did MOP=3D0 ever have useful meaning? (Tell me the use case...) I'd redefine that to mean extended, or 7 if we have to... But for the moment, I don't see why we can't allocate MOP=3D4 for this. I don't think new MOP's come along that often. >> Le 17 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 18:52, Michael Richardson a >> =C3=A9crit : >>=20 >>=20 >> I strongly believe that we should have a specific new MOP: >> "Non-storing with DAO-project" >>=20 >> -- >> Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works >> -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D- >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list >> Roll@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll From nobody Tue Dec 18 08:35:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041E5130F39 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:35:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L8J6NFXos1g2 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17D6B130F25 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACF72008C for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id BDC38B5D; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:35:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3962BA for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:35:53 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks In-Reply-To: <982B626E107E334DBE601D979F31785C5DD4D8E0@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <0cb3313f79eb475090937a932b793efc@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com>, <16712.1545069107@localhost> <6811D20F-DC62-4E16-86EE-684BD288E2CF@cisco.com> <982B626E107E334DBE601D979F31785C5DD4D8E0@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] cabilities in DIO messages X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:35:57 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rahul Arvind Jadhav wrote: > I'm wondering apart from MOP extension, it would be nice to have > capability flags in DIO. > 1. Capabilities field can work with ext-MOP to handshake additional > capabilities .. > 2. Even leaf nodes can=20 > understand capabilities ... I think we should continue this conversation. Are they negotiated, or simply declared? 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Thus all 8 mops will be used and none left. Thus mop extension may have to be handled before dao projection since extension will take one mop itself. I am curious to know also if mop=3D0 is put to use by any one. Regards, Rahul On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 10:05 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > > Trouble is that there is no room left in MOP space (3 bits). We=E2= =80=99ll > soon > > need to define a value to mean extended. > > 3bits =3D 8 choices. We have four choices now. > Did MOP=3D0 ever have useful meaning? (Tell me the use case...) > > I'd redefine that to mean extended, or 7 if we have to... > But for the moment, I don't see why we can't allocate MOP=3D4 for this. > I don't think new MOP's come along that often. > > >> Le 17 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 18:52, Michael Richardson > a > >> =C3=A9crit : > >> > >> > >> I strongly believe that we should have a specific new MOP: > >> "Non-storing with DAO-project" > >> > >> -- > >> Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software > Works > >> -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D- > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list > >> Roll@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > > _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list > > Roll@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --000000000000daedfd057d4e9d89 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Currently we have,
4 MO= Ps defined in 6550,
1 MOP defined in p2p-rpl/6997,
1 in aodv-rpl,
2 are needed fo= r dao projection.

Thus a= ll 8 mops will be used and none left. Thus mop extension may have to be han= dled before dao projection since extension will take one mop itself.
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I am curious to know also if m= op=3D0 is put to use by any one.

Regards,
Rahul=C2=A0

On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 10:05 PM, Micha= el Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca&= gt; wrote:

Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Trouble is that there is no room left in MOP space (3 bi= ts). We=E2=80=99ll soon
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > need to define a value to mean extended.

3bits =3D 8 choices.=C2=A0 We have four choices now.
Did MOP=3D0 ever have useful meaning?=C2=A0 (Tell me the use case...)

I'd redefine that to mean extended, or 7 if we have to...
But for the moment, I don't see why we can't allocate MOP=3D4 for t= his.
I don't think new MOP's come along that often.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> Le 17 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 18:52, Michael Richardso= n <mcr+ietf= @sandelman.ca> a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> =C3=A9crit :
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> I strongly believe that we should have a specific ne= w MOP:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> "Non-storing with DAO-project"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> --
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman So= ftware Works
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D-
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> _______________________________________________ Roll= mailing list
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> R= oll@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rol= l
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--000000000000daedfd057d4e9d89-- From nobody Tue Dec 18 09:00:51 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD17131147 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:00:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5KJ75-rHFHCi for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12CC413112B for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70562008C for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:00:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 151E1B5D; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D0D2BA for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:00:46 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 17:00:50 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rahul Jadhav wrote: > To begin with, I was wondering, do we really need new MOPs for > dao-projection? Can we handle dao-projection as something which can = be > incrementally added to existing MOPs? For e.g. if the network is > established in NS-MOP (non-storing MOP=3D1) then we can use P-DAO to > project routes down the network and if the destination legacy node do= es > not understand P-DAO then it should send a negative ACK for the DAO. > Problem is, right now i don't see how legacy nodes (who dont understa= nd > new RPO options) can distinguish between P-DAO and normal DAO. As i > understand, the new MOP is required because of this new mandatory > handling required for P-DAOs. Is it possible to have P-DAO such that > legacy nodes generate negative ACK if they cannot handle it? We have lots of ICMP code fields available, we could do: o 0x04: Projected Destination Advertisement Object=20 If we want to be able to incrementally deploy P-DAO, then we need to be sure that devices will send some kind of negative statement back for ICMP codes that are unknown. 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What do others think? > I think I posted a message before months about this MOP problem but no reply from the list, but now seems there started a discussion, but yes the MOP should be more than 3 bit. I suggest modifying that RFC that specifies 3 bits, I don't support extending but changing. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roll On Behalf Of Rahul Arvind Jadhav > > Sent: mardi 18 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 04:52 > > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > > Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs > > > > I'm wondering apart from MOP extension, it would be nice to have > capability > > flags in DIO. > > 1. Capabilities field can work with ext-MOP to handshake additional > > capabilities .. > > 2. Even leaf nodes can understand capabilities ... unlike MOP which is > relevant > > only to routers. > > Capabilities may be optional to support unlike MOP which is mandatory t= o > be > > supported if the node is to be a 6LR in the instance. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert > > > (pthubert) > > > Sent: 18 December 2018 01:27 > > > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > > > Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs > > > > > > I agree Michael > > > > > > Trouble is that there is no room left in MOP space (3 bits). We=E2=80= =99ll > > > soon need to define a value to mean extended. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Pascal > > > > > > > Le 17 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 18:52, Michael Richardson > > > > a > > > =C3=A9crit : > > > > > > > > > > > > I strongly believe that we should have a specific new MOP: > > > > "Non-storing with DAO-project" > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software > > > Works > > > > -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Roll mailing list > > > > Roll@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Roll mailing list > > > Roll@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > > _______________________________________________ > > Roll mailing list > > Roll@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --00000000000084513f057d58aca1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:42 AM Pascal Thubert (pthubert) = <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:=
All for it. What do others think?

I think=C2=A0I posted a=C2=A0message before months ab= out this MOP problem but no reply from the list, but now seems there starte= d a discussion,=C2=A0but yes the MOP should be more than 3 bit. I suggest m= odifying=C2=A0that=C2=A0RFC that specifies 3 bits, I don't support exte= nding but changing.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roll <roll-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rahul Arvind Jadhav
> Sent: mardi 18 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 04:52
> To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs
>
> I'm wondering apart from MOP extension, it would be nice to have c= apability
> flags in DIO.
> 1. Capabilities field can work with ext-MOP to handshake additional > capabilities ..
> 2. Even leaf nodes can understand capabilities ... unlike MOP which is= relevant
> only to routers.
> Capabilities may be optional to support unlike MOP which is mandatory = to be
> supported if the node is to be a 6LR in the instance.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert
> > (pthubert)
> > Sent: 18 December 2018 01:27
> > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs
> >
> > I agree Michael
> >
> > Trouble is that there is no room left in MOP space (3 bits). We= =E2=80=99ll
> > soon need to define a value to mean extended.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pascal
> >
> > > Le 17 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 18:52, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelm= an.ca>
> > > a
> > =C3=A9crit :
> > >
> > >
> > > I strongly believe that we should have a specific new MOP: > > >=C2=A0 "Non-storing with DAO-project"
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software > > Works
> > > -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Roll mailing list
> > > Roll@ietf= .org
> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll<= /a>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Roll mailing list
> > Roll@ietf.org<= /a>
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > _______________________________________________
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On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 7:52 PM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote= :

I strongly believe that we should have a specific new MOP:
=C2=A0 "Non-storing with DAO-project"

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I disagree, because= =C2=A0there is shortage of MOP. IMHO it needs to be planned well for those = all 8 options for all use-cases of ROLL, otherwise, we plan to change the M= OP number of bits so we cover most of ROLL use-cases. I mentioned this befo= re on the list when AODV first used one MOP, but not much participants disc= ussed it.

AB


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=C2=A0-=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D-



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--000000000000fd4adb057d58c803-- From nobody Tue Dec 18 22:33:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1769B12D84D for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 22:33:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cNhD8p6Wj42M for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 22:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 342F5124408 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 22:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 36DD1ADCD5CD2 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2018 06:33:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from BLREML702-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.20.4.171) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Wed, 19 Dec 2018 06:33:19 +0000 Received: from BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.9.149]) by blreml702-cah.china.huawei.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Wed, 19 Dec 2018 12:03:08 +0530 From: Rahul Arvind Jadhav To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Thread-Topic: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs Thread-Index: AQHUimibpgJS52fpKESIdA4u6tiTBqWEdWsAgAE8iVA= Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 06:33:07 +0000 Message-ID: <982B626E107E334DBE601D979F31785C5DD4E008@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <9098.1545152446@localhost> In-Reply-To: <9098.1545152446@localhost> Accept-Language: en-IN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.157.44] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 06:33:24 -0000 Actually this (new ICMP code) would have worked very nicely but as you ment= ioned the legacy nodes won't send back any response for unknown codes. I checked whether 6550 has an explicit statement and it does. Section 6: "If a node receives a RPL control message with an unknown Code field, the node MUST discard the message without any further processing, MAY raise a management alert, and MUST NOT send any messages in response." > -----Original Message----- > From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael Richardson > Sent: 18 December 2018 22:31 > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs >=20 >=20 > Rahul Jadhav wrote: > > To begin with, I was wondering, do we really need new MOPs for > > dao-projection? Can we handle dao-projection as something which ca= n > be > > incrementally added to existing MOPs? For e.g. if the network is > > established in NS-MOP (non-storing MOP=3D1) then we can use P-DAO t= o > > project routes down the network and if the destination legacy node = does > > not understand P-DAO then it should send a negative ACK for the DAO= . > > Problem is, right now i don't see how legacy nodes (who dont > understand > > new RPO options) can distinguish between P-DAO and normal DAO. As = i > > understand, the new MOP is required because of this new mandatory > > handling required for P-DAOs. Is it possible to have P-DAO such tha= t > > legacy nodes generate negative ACK if they cannot handle it? >=20 > We have lots of ICMP code fields available, we could do: >=20 > o 0x04: Projected Destination Advertisement Object >=20 > If we want to be able to incrementally deploy P-DAO, then we need to be > sure that devices will send some kind of negative statement back for ICMP > codes that are unknown. It's supposed to be an ICMP parameter error, but > maybe not everything does that. >=20 > -- > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works > -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D- >=20 >=20 From nobody Tue Dec 18 23:12:48 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95C3130DEB for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 23:12:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com 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In-Reply-To: <32467.1545150953@localhost> Accept-Language: en-IN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.157.44] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] cabilities in DIO messages X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 09:19:21 -0000 >=20 > Rahul Arvind Jadhav wrote: > > I'm wondering apart from MOP extension, it would be nice to have > > capability flags in DIO. > > 1. Capabilities field can work with ext-MOP to handshake additional > > capabilities .. > > 2. Even leaf nodes can > > understand capabilities ... >=20 > I think we should continue this conversation. > Are they negotiated, or simply declared? ("I can do X") >=20 I had simple declaration in mind but negotiation would be more powerful and= also does not add much overhead. We already have the signaling primitives = (DIO-DAO-ACK)to handle it. Capabilities can be a new rpl control message op= tion and optionally added if required in RPL ctrl msg. Do we require to tag optional data along with capabilities flag? 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Wed, 19 Dec 2018 18:42:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0cb3313f79eb475090937a932b793efc@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> <16712.1545069107@localhost> <6811D20F-DC62-4E16-86EE-684BD288E2CF@cisco.com> <982B626E107E334DBE601D979F31785C5DD4D8E0@BLREML503-MBX.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: From: Abdussalam Baryun Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 04:42:00 +0200 Message-ID: To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000481db1057d6b14c3" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 02:42:22 -0000 --000000000000481db1057d6b14c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pascal, I know what we can do and can not do. If something is wrong we can fix it as technology is changing. On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 9:12 AM Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: > Hello Abdussalam > > We do care about backwards compatibility. > I don't mind backwards but with good planning, it seems there was no good plan in the first design. And we do not change RFCs. > We do comment on all old RFCs to change in future. We do obsolete and new RFC take over, it happens all the time in IETF. > What we do is publish new RFCs the supersede the old for new devices in a > spirit of maintaining maximum compatibility with old devices. > That is one solution approach, but there are other solutions, don't forget that IPv6 is changing full protocol of IPv4 and not compatible, it was IETF creation, so it is ok in our group if we agree on such approach. Changing MOP is not changing the protocol. AB > > Regards, > > Pascal > > Le 19 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 05:45, Abdussalam Baryun a > =C3=A9crit : > > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:42 AM Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < > pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: > >> All for it. What do others think? >> > > I think I posted a message before months about this MOP problem but no > reply from the list, but now seems there started a discussion, but yes th= e > MOP should be more than 3 bit. I suggest modifying that RFC that specifie= s > 3 bits, I don't support extending but changing. > > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Roll On Behalf Of Rahul Arvind Jadhav >> > Sent: mardi 18 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 04:52 >> > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks >> > Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs >> > >> > I'm wondering apart from MOP extension, it would be nice to have >> capability >> > flags in DIO. >> > 1. Capabilities field can work with ext-MOP to handshake additional >> > capabilities .. >> > 2. Even leaf nodes can understand capabilities ... unlike MOP which is >> relevant >> > only to routers. >> > Capabilities may be optional to support unlike MOP which is mandatory >> to be >> > supported if the node is to be a 6LR in the instance. >> > >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pascal Thuber= t >> > > (pthubert) >> > > Sent: 18 December 2018 01:27 >> > > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks >> > > Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs >> > > >> > > I agree Michael >> > > >> > > Trouble is that there is no room left in MOP space (3 bits). We=E2= =80=99ll >> > > soon need to define a value to mean extended. >> > > >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > >> > > Pascal >> > > >> > > > Le 17 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 18:52, Michael Richardson >> > > > a >> > > =C3=A9crit : >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I strongly believe that we should have a specific new MOP: >> > > > "Non-storing with DAO-project" >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software >> > > Works >> > > > -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D- >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Roll mailing list >> > > > Roll@ietf..org >> > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Roll mailing list >> > > Roll@ietf.org >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Roll mailing list >> > Roll@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> _______________________________________________ >> Roll mailing list >> Roll@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --000000000000481db1057d6b14c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Pascal,

I know what we ca= n do and can not do. If something is wrong we can fix it as technology is c= hanging.

On Wed, = Dec 19, 2018 at 9:12 AM Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
Hello Abdussalam=C2=A0

We do care about backwards compatibility.

I don't mind backwards=C2=A0but with good planning, it = seems there was no good plan in the first design.

And we do not change RFCs.
<= /blockquote>

We do comment on all old RFCs to change in = future. We do obsolete and new RFC take over, it happens all the time in IE= TF.
=C2=A0
What we = do is publish new RFCs the supersede the old for new devices in a spirit of= maintaining maximum compatibility with old devices.

That is one solution approach, but there are othe= r solutions, don't forget that IPv6 is changing=C2=A0full protocol of= =C2=A0IPv4 and not compatible, it was IETF creation, so it is ok in our gro= up if we=C2=A0agree on such approach. Changing MOP is not changing the prot= ocol.

AB=C2=A0

Regards,

Pascal

Le 19 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 05:45, Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:



All for it. What do others think?

I think=C2=A0I posted a=C2=A0message before months about this MOP prob= lem but no reply from the list, but now seems there started a discussion,= =C2=A0but yes the MOP should be more than 3 bit. I suggest modifying=C2=A0t= hat=C2=A0RFC that specifies 3 bits, I don't support extending but changing.
=C2=A0

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roll <roll-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rahul Arvind Jadhav
> Sent: mardi 18 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 04:52
> To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs
>
> I'm wondering apart from MOP extension, it would be nice to have c= apability
> flags in DIO.
> 1. Capabilities field can work with ext-MOP to handshake additional > capabilities ..
> 2. Even leaf nodes can understand capabilities ... unlike MOP which is= relevant
> only to routers.
> Capabilities may be optional to support unlike MOP which is mandatory = to be
> supported if the node is to be a 6LR in the instance.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert
> > (pthubert)
> > Sent: 18 December 2018 01:27
> > To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Roll] DAO-Projection and new MOPs
> >
> > I agree Michael
> >
> > Trouble is that there is no room left in MOP space (3 bits). We= =E2=80=99ll
> > soon need to define a value to mean extended.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pascal
> >
> > > Le 17 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 18:52, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelm= an.ca>
> > > a
> > =C3=A9crit :
> > >
> > >
> > > I strongly believe that we should have a specific new MOP: > > >=C2=A0 "Non-storing with DAO-project"
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software > > Works
> > > -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Roll mailing list
> > > Roll@ietf= ..org
> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll
> > _______________________________________________
> > Roll mailing list
> > Roll@ietf.org<= /a>
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll
> _______________________________________________
> Roll mailing list
> Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll
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This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : Root initiated routing state in RPL Authors : Pascal Thubert Rahul Arvind Jadhav Matthew Gillmore James Pylakutty Filename : draft-ietf-roll-dao-projection-05.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2018-12-21 Abstract: This document proposes a protocol extension to RPL that enables to install a limited amount of centrally-computed routes in a RPL graph, enabling loose source routing down a non-storing mode DODAG, or transversal routes inside the DODAG. As opposed to the classical route injection in RPL that are injected by the end devices, this draft enables the root of the DODAG to projects the routes that are needed on the nodes where they should be installed. 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This is needed to express neighborhood, amount of free resources > to install routes, etc... this way a node can signal support for this > spec to the root. This is probably the key part of what we need to do any useful extensions: node capabilities. The non-storing DAO message clearly is a place to do this. The question is how to encode the capabilities? 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