From nobody Tue Feb 2 15:09:54 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietf.org Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839063A0CB5; Tue, 2 Feb 2021 15:09:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: roll@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.25.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: roll@ietf.org Message-ID: <161230739248.20066.2074310294473940157@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 15:09:52 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-09.txt X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 23:09:53 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : AODV based RPL Extensions for Supporting Asymmetric P2P Links in Low-Power and Lossy Networks Authors : Satish Anamalamudi Mingui Zhang Charles E. Perkins S.V.R Anand Bing Liu Filename : draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-09.txt Pages : 28 Date : 2021-02-02 Abstract: Route discovery for symmetric and asymmetric Point-to-Point (P2P) traffic flows is a desirable feature in Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs). For that purpose, this document specifies a reactive P2P route discovery mechanism for both hop-by-hop routing and source routing: Ad Hoc On-demand Distance Vector Routing (AODV) based RPL protocol (AODV-RPL). Paired Instances are used to construct directional paths, in case some of the links between source and target node are asymmetric. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ines, May I know where I can find the recording for this meeting? Is it uploaded = to youtube? Best regards, Li From: Roll on behalf of Ines Robles Date: Friday, January 29, 2021 at 21:42 To: roll Subject: Re: [Roll] January Interim Meeting - Material Dear all, The CodiMD link (Etherpad) can be found in the interim meeting materials pa= ge [1], which is as follows: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2021-roll-01-roll We kindly request your contribution as minute taker Thank you, Ines [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-roll-01/session/roll On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:02 AM Ines Robles > wrote: Dear all, Please find below the complete set of slides for today's meeting. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-roll-01/materials/slides-= interim-2021-roll-01-sessa-completeset-roll-interim-20210129-00.pdf Comments welcome, Best regards, Ines and Dominique On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:10 PM Ines Robles > wrote: Dear all, Please find below the link to the agenda for the next week interim meeting: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-roll-01/session/roll Presenters please upload your slides by 25th January or send it to us in pd= f format Comments welcome, Thank you, Ines and Dominique On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 7:31 PM Ines Robles > wrote: Dear all, Thank you for filling the doodle, the selected date and time are as follows= : Date: Jan 29, 2021 Time: 9:30 am Eastern Time =3D 2:30 pm UTC =3D 3:30 pm CET Agenda: Please let us know the topic that you would like to present, and th= e duration of the requested-slot by 22th January Webex: Notice that the webex opens 15 min earlier in case that you want to test an= d it stays open 45 min after the meeting in case that people want to discus= s with the chairs. IETF ROLL Interim Meeting January 2021 Hosted by ROLL WG https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm34b599e4c5ac49d9e4bc6128a4cc26e7 Friday, Jan 29, 2021 9:15 am | 3 hours | (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Can= ada) Meeting number: 178 378 7708 Password: UUuqJR3C3C7 a617699ad5544f75991a8738db89dcba Join by video system Dial 1783787708@ietf.webex.com You can also dial 173.243.2.68 and enter your meeting number. Join by phone 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) Access code: 178 378 7708 Thank you very much in advance, Ines and Dominique. On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 5:50 PM Ines Robles > wrote: Dear all, Please find the link to the doodle in order to set up an interim meeting at= the end of January 2021. Please fill it by 8th of January. https://doodle.com/poll/936cn2y6uwfp3dia?utm_source=3Dpoll&utm_medium=3Dlin= k Please also find the link to the minutes of the IETF109, comments welcome b= y 3th January. 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Hello Ines,

 

May I know where I can find the= recording for this meeting? Is it uploaded to youtube?

 

Best regards,=

Li

 

 

From: Roll <roll-bounc= es@ietf.org> on behalf of Ines Robles <mariainesrobles=3D40googlemail= .com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Friday, January 29, 2021 at 21:42
To: roll <roll@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Roll] January Interim Meeting - Material

Dear all,

 

The CodiMD link (Etherpad) can be found in the inter= im meeting materials page [1], which is as follows:

 

 

We kindly request your contribution as minute taker<= o:p>

 

Thank you,

 

Ines

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:02 AM Ines Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.c= om> wrote:

Dear all,

 

Please find below the complete set of slides for tod= ay's meeting.

 

 

Comments welcome,

 

Best regards,

 

Ines and Dominique

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:10 PM Ines Robles <mariainesro= bles@googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

 

Please find below the link to the agenda for the nex= t week interim meeting:

  

 

Presenters please upload your slides by 25th January= or send it to us in pdf format

 

Comments welcome,

 

Thank you,

 

Ines and Dominique

 

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 7:31 PM Ines Robles <mariainesro= bles@googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

 

Thank you for filling the doodle, the selected date = and time are as follows:

 

Date:  Jan 29, 2021

 

Time:  9:30 am Eastern Time =3D 2:30 pm UTC =3D= 3:30 pm CET

 

Agenda: Please let us know the topic that you would = like to present, and the duration of the requested-slot by 22th January

 

Webex: 

Notice that the webex opens 15 min earlier in case t= hat you want to test and it stays open 45 min after the meeting in case tha= t people want to discuss with the chairs. 

 

 IETF ROLL Interim Meeting January 2021
Hosted by ROLL WG

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Friday, Jan 29, 2021 9:15 am | 3 hours | (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US &= Canada)
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Thank you very much in advance,

Ines and Dominique. 

 

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 5:50 PM Ines Robles <mariainesro= bles@googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

 

Please find the link to the doodle in order to set u= p an interim meeting at the end of January 2021.  Please fill it by 8t= h of January.

 

 

 

Please also find the link to the minutes of the IETF= 109, comments welcome by 3th January. Many many thanks to the minute takers= :-)

 

 

Best wishes,

 

Ines and Dominique.

 

 

 

 

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Thu, 04 Feb 2021 01:57:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ines Robles Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:56:30 +0200 Message-ID: To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f958ce05ba7fb912" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] January Interim Meeting - Material X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2021 09:57:11 -0000 --000000000000f958ce05ba7fb912 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Li, Thank you for your inquire. Yes, the video is in youtube. Please find below the folder where we point to the recording links https://github.com/roll-wg/ROLL-Interim-Meeting/tree/master/20210129 Notice that you can find there also the minutes, but they are still being edited, we aim to have them ready for review around next week. Best regards, Ines. On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 10:46 AM Li Zhao (liz3) wrote: > Hello Ines, > > > > May I know where I can find the recording for this meeting? Is it uploaded > to youtube? > > > > Best regards, > > Li > > > > > > *From: *Roll on behalf of Ines Robles > > *Date: *Friday, January 29, 2021 at 21:42 > *To: *roll > *Subject: *Re: [Roll] January Interim Meeting - Material > > Dear all, > > > > The CodiMD link (Etherpad) can be found in the interim meeting materials > page [1], which is as follows: > > > > https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2021-roll-01-roll > > > > We kindly request your contribution as minute taker > > > > Thank you, > > > > Ines > > > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-roll-01/session/roll > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:02 AM Ines Robles < > mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Please find below the complete set of slides for today's meeting. > > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-roll-01/materials/slides-interim-2021-roll-01-sessa-completeset-roll-interim-20210129-00.pdf > > > > Comments welcome, > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ines and Dominique > > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:10 PM Ines Robles < > mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Please find below the link to the agenda for the next week interim meeting: > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-roll-01/session/roll > > > > Presenters please upload your slides by 25th January or send it to us in > pdf format > > > > Comments welcome, > > > > Thank you, > > > > Ines and Dominique > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 7:31 PM Ines Robles < > mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Thank you for filling the doodle, the selected date and time are as > follows: > > > > Date: Jan 29, 2021 > > > > Time: 9:30 am Eastern Time = 2:30 pm UTC = 3:30 pm CET > > > > Agenda: Please let us know the topic that you would like to present, and > the duration of the requested-slot by *22th January* > > > > Webex: > > Notice that the webex opens 15 min earlier in case that you want to test > and it stays open 45 min after the meeting in case that people want to > discuss with the chairs. > > > > IETF ROLL Interim Meeting January 2021 > Hosted by ROLL WG > > https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m34b599e4c5ac49d9e4bc6128a4cc26e7 > Friday, Jan 29, 2021 9:15 am | 3 hours | (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & > Canada) > Meeting number: 178 378 7708 > Password: UUuqJR3C3C7 > a617699ad5544f75991a8738db89dcba > > Join by video system > Dial 1783787708@ietf.webex.com > You can also dial 173.243.2.68 and enter your meeting number. > > Join by phone > 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Access code: 178 378 7708 > > > > Thank you very much in advance, > > Ines and Dominique. > > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 5:50 PM Ines Robles < > mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Please find the link to the doodle in order to set up an interim meeting > at the end of January 2021. Please fill it by 8th of January. > > > > https://doodle.com/poll/936cn2y6uwfp3dia?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link > > > > > > Please also find the link to the minutes of the IETF109, comments welcome > by 3th January. Many many thanks to the minute takers :-) > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-109-roll/ > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Ines and Dominique. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --000000000000f958ce05ba7fb912 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Li,

Thank you for your inquire. Yes,= the video is in youtube. Please find below=C2=A0the folder where we point = to the recording links=C2=A0

Notice that you can find there also the minutes, but they are s= till being edited, we aim to have them ready for review around next week.

Best regards,

Ines.=C2=A0<= /div>



On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 10:46 AM Li Zhao = (liz3) <liz3=3D40cisco.com= @dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hello Ines,

=C2=A0

May I know where I can find the= recording for this meeting? Is it uploaded to youtube?

=C2=A0

Best regards,

Li

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Roll <roll-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of Ines Robles <mariainesrobles=3D40googlemail.com@dmarc.ietf.org<= /a>>
Date: Friday, January 29, 2021 at 21:42
To: roll <roll= @ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Roll] January Interim Meeting - Material=

Dear all,

=C2=A0

The CodiMD link (Etherpad) can be found in the inter= im meeting materials page [1], which is as follows:

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

We kindly request your contribution as minute taker<= u>

=C2=A0

Thank you,

=C2=A0

Ines

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:02 AM Ines Robles <mariainesr= obles@googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

=C2=A0

Please find below the complete set of slides for tod= ay's meeting.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Comments welcome,

=C2=A0

Best regards,

=C2=A0

Ines and Dominique

=C2=A0

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:10 PM Ines Robles <mariainesro= bles@googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

=C2=A0

Please find below the link to the agenda for the nex= t week interim meeting:

=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Presenters please upload your slides by 25th January= or send it to us in pdf format

=C2=A0

Comments=C2=A0welcome,

=C2=A0

Thank you,

=C2=A0

Ines and Dominique

=C2=A0

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 7:31 PM Ines Robles <mariainesro= bles@googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

=C2=A0

Thank you for filling the doodle, the selected date = and time are as follows:

=C2=A0

Date:=C2=A0 Jan 29, 2021

=C2=A0

Time:=C2=A0 9:30 am Eastern Time =3D 2:30 pm UTC =3D= 3:30 pm CET

=C2=A0

Agenda: Please let us know the topic that you would = like to present, and the duration of the requested-slot by 22th January

=C2=A0

Webex:=C2=A0

Notice that the webex opens 15 min earlier in case t= hat you want to test and it stays open 45 min after the meeting in case tha= t people want to discuss with the chairs.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0IETF ROLL Interim Meeting January 2021
Hosted by ROLL WG

https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm34b= 599e4c5ac49d9e4bc6128a4cc26e7
Friday, Jan 29, 2021 9:15 am | 3 hours | (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US &= Canada)
Meeting number: 178 378 7708
Password: UUuqJR3C3C7
a617699ad5544f75991a8738db89dcba

Join by video system
Dial 1783787= 708@ietf.webex.com
You can also dial 173.243.2.68 and enter your meeting number.

Join by phone
1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada)
Access code: 178 378 7708=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Thank you very much in advance,

Ines and Dominique.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 5:50 PM Ines Robles <mariainesro= bles@googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

=C2=A0

Please find the link to the doodle in order to set u= p an interim meeting at the end of January 2021.=C2=A0 Please fill it by 8t= h of January.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Please also find the link to the minutes of the IETF= 109, comments welcome by 3th January. Many many thanks to the minute takers= :-)

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Best wishes,

=C2=A0

Ines and Dominique.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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173.36.7.15, xch-aln-005.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: alln-core-1.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] About merging two RFC drafts: draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-priority and DODAG size X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 17:10:03 -0000 Dear all=20 As agreed at the interim, I pushed some changes in the draft to add the DOD= AG Size to the new option. I leave the ball to Huimin to take more of his original work and complete t= he changes. My own diffset is here=20 https://github.com/roll-wg/draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-priority/commit/e3d3d= 0b57ba6339b292718670ae4332730ffb03d for now I commented out=20 I'm concerned that the undocumented/future behavior will create comments at= the IESG.=20 My observation is that we should either define the process fully or not men= tion it at all. Also, the common practice for DIO values that they are set by the Root and = propagated unchanged seems relevant here to start with, so I reworded the g= ithub text in that direction. Please feel free to comment / contradict, it's easy to roll back any of the= above. Keep safe; Pascal From nobody Sat Feb 6 12:11:43 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144183AC879; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 12:11:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eA61a7J7zP_p; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 12:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 615D43AC805; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 12:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.152] (p5089a828.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.137.168.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DY3Mc5vpBzyXT; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 21:11:24 +0100 (CET) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 21:11:24 +0100 Message-Id: <0A309E52-C70F-4555-B21B-D9A5721C98A5@tzi.org> To: 6lo@ietf.org, 6tisch@ietf.org, lp-wan@ietf.org, lwip@ietf.org, roll@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF110: DRAFT AGENDA X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2021 20:11:29 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the DRAFT AGENDA for IETF110. Remember that there is still quite some potential for changes. The IoT-relevant conflicts that meet the eye this time are LAKE/RATS, IOTOPS/COSE, CORE/DANISH, in order from hurtful to disastrous (ROLL/SUIT and LPWAN/RATS are probably bearable). All times *on my agenda* are in UTC (the default page is UTC+0100). https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc might be handy. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pascal, thanks for starting this process! I'm going to wait for Huimin to add his name to the author list, and then I'll push an update document. Your text puts both values into a single Metric. I was thinking it would be two metrics, but upon reflection, it probably do= es belong in a single metric object. What would an appropriate default be if the metric is introduced in the middle of the DODAG? https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-priorit= y-03#section-2.1 doc> The size of the DODAG is measured by the Root based one the DAO doc> activity. It represents a number of routes not a number of nodes, and doc> can only be used to infer a load in an homogeneous network where each doc> node advertises the same number of addresses and generates roughly the doc> same amount of traffic I really that we would measure in terms of number of routes. pt> I'm concerned that the undocumented/future behavior will create comments pt> at the IESG. My observation is that we should either define the process pt> fully or not mention it at all. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: >> Your text puts both values into a single Metric. I was thinking it >> would be two metrics, but upon reflection, it probably does belong in >> a single metric object. >> > Not sure what you mean by this. Same record ? Yes, I mean, you've extended the single metric object to have two things. We could have created two metric objects at a small byte cost. More flexibility, but maybe more than is actually needed. >> What would an appropriate default be if the metric is introduced in >> the middle of the DODAG? >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-pri= ority-03#section-2.1 > Not sure it should be ; that=E2=80=99s the text I commented out and w= anted to > discuss with you. My initial understanding was that it didn=E2=80=99t= happen > but rereading I found the text allowed it. Same as above allowing that > it is injected in the middle raises many questions for which I have no > answer like on which occasion that happens, and what sense it makes. = Eg > the dodag size cannot be invented by a node in the middle; > realistically not can a meaningful priority for the same reasons. So my reason to including it mid-DODAG is because, otherwise, we have to use capabilities or something to figure out what happens when the root is emitting it, and it's not getting to the leaves. doc> The size of the DODAG is measured by the Root based one the DAO doc> activity. It represents a number of routes not a number of nodes, doc> and can only be used to infer a load in an homogeneous network whe= re doc> each node advertises the same number of addresses and generates doc> roughly the same amount of traffic >> >> I really that we would measure in terms of number of routes. > You mean nodes not routes? Sadly we have no way to know that, do we? I really like that we could measure routes easily, so lets use that. pt> I'm concerned that the undocumented/future behavior will create pt> comments at the IESG. My observation is that we should either defi= ne pt> the process fully or not mention it at all. >> >> I concur that we will get comments, and yet, I think that we really = do >> want to allow for "future work". > More than comments; they ask for crisp specification, backward > compatibility and security issues... 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 08:56:51 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : Controlling Secure Network Enrollment in RPL networks Authors : Michael Richardson Rahul Arvind Jadhav Pascal Thubert Huimin She Filename : draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-priority-04.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2021-02-07 Abstract: [I-D.ietf-6tisch-enrollment-enhanced-beacon] defines a method by which a potential [I-D.ietf-6tisch-minimal-security] enrollment proxy can announce itself as a available for new Pledges to enroll on a network. The announcement includes a priority for enrollment. This document provides a mechanism by which a RPL DODAG root can disable enrollment announcements, or adjust the base priority for enrollment operation. 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In storing mode, routes are always aggregated. Root can=92t get correct rou= te number. In mop 0, there is no DAO reported. So root can=92t get route number too. Another problem is how to indicate the priority value, currently roots don= =92t sync any rpl information, we can=92t make sure single root can get the= correct priority. For example, if root A knows there is another root B wit= h higher uplink throughput and fewer route number, A could lower its priori= ty. Best regards, Li From: Roll on behalf of Michael Richardson Date: Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 10:11 To: roll@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Roll] About merging two RFC drafts: draft-ietf-roll-enrollmen= t-priority and DODAG size Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: >> Your text puts both values into a single Metric. I was thinking it >> would be two metrics, but upon reflection, it probably does belong i= n >> a single metric object. >> > Not sure what you mean by this. Same record ? Yes, I mean, you've extended the single metric object to have two things. We could have created two metric objects at a small byte cost. More flexibility, but maybe more than is actually needed. >> What would an appropriate default be if the metric is introduced in >> the middle of the DODAG? >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-pri= ority-03#section-2.1 > Not sure it should be ; that=92s the text I commented out and wanted = to > discuss with you. My initial understanding was that it didn=92t happe= n > but rereading I found the text allowed it. Same as above allowing tha= t > it is injected in the middle raises many questions for which I have n= o > answer like on which occasion that happens, and what sense it makes. = Eg > the dodag size cannot be invented by a node in the middle; > realistically not can a meaningful priority for the same reasons. So my reason to including it mid-DODAG is because, otherwise, we have to us= e capabilities or something to figure out what happens when the root is emitting it, and it's not getting to the leaves. doc> The size of the DODAG is measured by the Root based one the DAO doc> activity. It represents a number of routes not a number of nodes, doc> and can only be used to infer a load in an homogeneous network whe= re doc> each node advertises the same number of addresses and generates doc> roughly the same amount of traffic >> >> I really that we would measure in terms of number of routes. > You mean nodes not routes? Sadly we have no way to know that, do we? I really like that we could measure routes easily, so lets use that. pt> I'm concerned that the undocumented/future behavior will create pt> comments at the IESG. My observation is that we should either defi= ne pt> the process fully or not mention it at all. >> >> I concur that we will get comments, and yet, I think that we really = do >> want to allow for "future work". > More than comments; they ask for crisp specification, backward > compatibility and security issues... Yup. -- Michael Richardson . o O ( IPv6 I=F8T consulting = ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide --_000_PH0PR11MB49193A656F873725C2A24B0E8C8D9PH0PR11MB4919namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Michael/Pascal,

 

If we measure DODAG size in terms of number of routes,  probably we= should consider:

In non-storing mode, whether th= e external routes should be included.

In storing mode, routes are alw= ays aggregated. Root can=92t get correct route number.

In mop 0, there is no DAO repor= ted. So root can=92t get route number too.

 

 

Another problem is how to indic= ate the priority value, currently roots don=92t sync any rpl information, w= e can=92t make sure single root can get the correct priority. For example, = if root A knows there is another root B with higher uplink throughput and fewer route number, A could lower its pr= iority.

 

 

Best regards,=

Li

 

 

From: Roll <roll-bounc= es@ietf.org> on behalf of Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca&g= t;
Date: Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 10:11
To: roll@ietf.org <roll@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Roll] About merging two RFC drafts: draft-ietf-roll-en= rollment-priority and DODAG size


Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
    >> Your text puts both values into a single Metric= .  I was thinking it
    >> would be two metrics, but upon reflection, it p= robably does belong in
    >> a single metric object.
    >>

    > Not sure what you mean by this. Same record ?

Yes, I mean, you've extended the single metric object to have two things. We could have created two metric objects at a small byte cost.
More flexibility, but maybe more than is actually needed.

    >> What would an appropriate default be if the met= ric is introduced in
    >> the middle of the DODAG?
    >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-priority-0= 3#section-2.1

    > Not sure it should be ; that=92s the text I comment= ed out and wanted to
    > discuss with you. My initial understanding was that= it didn=92t happen
    > but rereading I found the text allowed it. Same as = above allowing that
    > it is injected in the middle raises many questions = for which I have no
    > answer like on which occasion that happens, and wha= t sense it makes. Eg
    > the dodag size cannot be invented by a node in the = middle;
    > realistically not can a meaningful priority for the= same reasons.

So my reason to including it mid-DODAG is because, otherwise, we have to us= e
capabilities or something to figure out what happens when the root is
emitting it, and it's not getting to the leaves.

    doc> The size of the DODAG is measured by the Root ba= sed one the DAO
    doc> activity. It represents a number of routes not a= number of nodes,
    doc> and can only be used to infer a load in an homog= eneous network where
    doc> each node advertises the same number of addresse= s and generates
    doc> roughly the same amount of traffic
    >>
    >> I really that we would measure in terms of numb= er of routes.

    > You mean nodes not routes? Sadly we have no way to = know that, do we?

I really like that we could measure routes easily, so lets use that.

    pt> I'm concerned that the undocumented/future behavi= or will create
    pt> comments at the IESG.  My observation is tha= t we should either define
    pt> the process fully or not mention it at all.
    >>
    >> I concur that we will get comments, and yet, I = think that we really do
    >> want to allow for "future work".

    > More than comments; they ask for crisp specificatio= n, backward
    > compatibility and security issues...

Yup.

--
Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 I= =F8T consulting )
           Sandelman Soft= ware Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide

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Ultimately that's the Root decision based on admin. We need to provide a de= fault, I suggest that default is yes. > In storing mode, routes are always aggregated. Root can't get correct rou= te number. They are typically not aggregated in the common sense (shorter prefix). The= y are collated but you can still count them. > In mop 0, there is no DAO reported. So root can't get route number too. True, we'll have to add text on this.=20 Keep safe! Pascal From: Roll On Behalf Of Li Zhao (liz3) Sent: mercredi 10 f=E9vrier 2021 4:13 To: roll@ietf.org Subject: [Roll] About measure DODAG size and priority Hello Michael/Pascal, If we measure DODAG size in terms of number of routes, =A0probably we shoul= d consider: In non-storing mode, whether the external routes should be included. In storing mode, routes are always aggregated. Root can't get correct route= number. In mop 0, there is no DAO reported. So root can't get route number too. Another problem is how to indicate the priority value, currently roots don'= t sync any rpl information, we can't make sure single root can get the corr= ect priority. For example, if root A knows there is another root B with hig= her uplink throughput and fewer route number, A could lower its priority. Best regards, Li From: Roll on behalf of Michael Richardson <= mailto:mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Date: Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 10:11 To: mailto:roll@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Roll] About merging two RFC drafts: draft-ietf-roll-enrollmen= t-priority and DODAG size Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: =A0=A0=A0 >> Your text puts both values into a single Metric.=A0 I was thin= king it =A0=A0=A0 >> would be two metrics, but upon reflection, it probably does be= long in =A0=A0=A0 >> a single metric object. =A0=A0=A0 >> =A0=A0=A0 > Not sure what you mean by this. Same record ? Yes, I mean, you've extended the single metric object to have two things. We could have created two metric objects at a small byte cost. More flexibility, but maybe more than is actually needed. =A0=A0=A0 >> What would an appropriate default be if the metric is introduc= ed in =A0=A0=A0 >> the middle of the DODAG? =A0=A0=A0 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-enrollme= nt-priority-03#section-2.1 =A0=A0=A0 > Not sure it should be ; that's the text I commented out and wan= ted to =A0=A0=A0 > discuss with you. My initial understanding was that it didn't h= appen =A0=A0=A0 > but rereading I found the text allowed it. Same as above allowi= ng that =A0=A0=A0 > it is injected in the middle raises many questions for which I = have no =A0=A0=A0 > answer like on which occasion that happens, and what sense it m= akes. Eg =A0=A0=A0 > the dodag size cannot be invented by a node in the middle; =A0=A0=A0 > realistically not can a meaningful priority for the same reason= s. So my reason to including it mid-DODAG is because, otherwise, we have to us= e capabilities or something to figure out what happens when the root is emitting it, and it's not getting to the leaves. =A0=A0=A0 doc> The size of the DODAG is measured by the Root based one the = DAO =A0=A0=A0 doc> activity. It represents a number of routes not a number of n= odes, =A0=A0=A0 doc> and can only be used to infer a load in an homogeneous netwo= rk where =A0=A0=A0 doc> each node advertises the same number of addresses and genera= tes =A0=A0=A0 doc> roughly the same amount of traffic =A0=A0=A0 >> =A0=A0=A0 >> I really that we would measure in terms of number of routes. =A0=A0=A0 > You mean nodes not routes? Sadly we have no way to know that, d= o we? I really like that we could measure routes easily, so lets use that. =A0=A0=A0 pt> I'm concerned that the undocumented/future behavior will crea= te =A0=A0=A0 pt> comments at the IESG.=A0 My observation is that we should eit= her define =A0=A0=A0 pt> the process fully or not mention it at all. =A0=A0=A0 >> =A0=A0=A0 >> I concur that we will get comments, and yet, I think that we r= eally do =A0=A0=A0 >> want to allow for "future work". =A0=A0=A0 > More than comments; they ask for crisp specification, backward =A0=A0=A0 > compatibility and security issues... Yup. -- Michael Richardson =A0=A0 . o O ( IPv6 I=F8T = consulting ) =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Wor= ldwide From nobody Fri Feb 12 16:36:11 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietf.org Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F2D3A11E9; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 16:33:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: aretana.ietf@gmail.com, roll@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.25.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <161317640619.31337.11833736908474593893@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 16:33:26 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] roll - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 110 X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 00:33:35 -0000 Dear Ines Robles, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. roll Session 1 (1:00 requested) Thursday, 11 March 2021, Session II 1530-1630 Room Name: Room 6 size: 506 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/sessions/roll.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Ines Robles Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 25 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: anima manet cellar asdf 6tisch core ace Technology Overlap: rtgarea 6lo 6man lwig cbor t2trg Key Participant Conflict: detnet rtgwg intarea lpwan People who must be present: Alvaro Retana Dominique Barthel Ines Robles Michael Richardson Resources Requested: Special Requests: Additional key participant conflict: paw - that could not be added in the previous list --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Sat Feb 13 00:05:09 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DF23A03FA; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 00:04:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.919 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.919 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id epg86mUjvgyb; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 00:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21F643A03C9; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 00:04:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.152] (p5089a828.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.137.168.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Dd2Q4425ZzyT7; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 08:42:20 +0100 (CET) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 08:42:20 +0100 Message-Id: <527A2B57-A9CD-45D3-AFA7-6B31973E56AD@tzi.org> To: 6lo@ietf.org, 6tisch@ietf.org, lp-wan@ietf.org, lwip@ietf.org, roll@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF110: "FINAL" AGENDA X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 08:04:53 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the "FINAL" AGENDA for IETF110. Remember that further agenda changes can still happen. A number of changes have been made with respect to the draft agenda. CBOR has moved to Monday into what was ASDF's slot, and ASDF is now on top of IOTOPS (ugh). COSE has moved into Friday's middle slot that had been used by CBOR. Other conflicts that remain are LAKE/RATS, CORE/DANISH -- you just can't do both IoT application layer and IoT security this time (ROLL/SUIT and LPWAN/RATS are probably bearable). All times *on my agenda* are in UTC (the default page is UTC+0100). https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc might be handy, and the main agenda tool now has an awesome timezone selection tool. Note that both EU and US are still on winter time (standard time) then; the US moves forward on Mar 14 with the EU following Mar 28 -- we'll have two weeks of confusion this time right after the IETF. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten MONDAY, March 1, 2021 1600-1800 Hackathon Kickoff Rm 1 GEN hackathon Hackathon THURSDAY, March 4, 2021 1700-1900 Technology Deep Dive Rm 1 tdd Technology Deep Dive FRIDAY, March 5, 2021 1600-1800 Hackathon Closing Rm 1 GEN hackathon Hackathon MONDAY, March 8, 2021 1200-1400 Session I Rm 1 ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Rm 2 IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting Rm 6 RTG raw Reliable and Available Wireless WG Rm 8 SEC emu EAP Method Update WG 1430-1530 Session II Rm 1 ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation = Maintenance and Extensions WG Rm 2 IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Rm 3 RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Rm 5 RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Rm 6 SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG 1600-1800 Session III Rm 2 ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Rm 3 ART webtrans WebTransport WG Rm 7 SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Rm 8 TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG TUESDAY, March 9, 2021 1200-1400 Session I Rm 3 INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Rm 6 RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Rm 8 SEC *** lake Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange = WG Rm 9 SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG 1430-1530 Session II Rm 1 ART *** asdf A Semantic Definition Format for Data = and Interactions of Things WG Rm 4 INT add Adaptive DNS Discovery WG Rm 5 OPS *** iotops IOT Operations WG Rm 6 RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Rm 7 RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Rm 9 SEC acme Automated Certificate Management = Environment WG 1600-1800 Session III Rm 3 INT *** drip Drone Remote ID Protocol WG Rm 5 OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Rm 8 SEC gnap Grant Negotiation and Authorization = Protocol WG Rm 9 TSV masque Multiplexed Application Substrate over = QUIC Encryption WG WEDNESDAY, March 10, 2021 1200-1400 Session I Rm 2 ART jsonpath JSON Path WG Rm 3 IRTF icnrg Information-Centric Networking Rm 8 SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Rm 9 TSV quic QUIC WG 1430-1530 Session II Rm 4 INT *** lpwan IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks = WG Rm 5 IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Research Group Rm 6 OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Rm 8 SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG Rm 9 TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG THURSDAY, March 11, 2021 1200-1400 Session I Rm 2 INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of = Resource-constrained Nodes WG Rm 3 INT add Adaptive DNS Discovery WG Rm 4 INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service = Discovery WG - Joint with HOMENET Rm 4 INT homenet Home Networking WG - Joint with DNSSD Rm 8 SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting Rm 9 TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting 1430-1530 Session II Rm 3 IRTF panrg Path Aware Networking RG Rm 6 RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Rm 7 SEC openpgp Open Specification for Pretty Good = Privacy WG Rm 8 SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things = WG 1600-1800 Session III Rm 2 INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Rm 4 IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing Rm 7 RTG rtgarea Routing Area Open Meeting - Joint with = RTGWG Rm 8 SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG FRIDAY, March 12, 2021 1200-1400 Session I Rm 1 ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Rm 3 IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum Rm 7 SEC *** danish DANE AutheNtication for Iot Service = Hardening BOF 1430-1530 Session II Rm 3 ART wpack Web Packaging WG Rm 4 INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Rm 6 IRTF pearg Privacy Enhancements and Assessments = Research Group Rm 8 SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG 1600-1800 Session III Rm 1 ART httpapi Building Blocks for HTTP APIs WG Rm 2 IRTF coinrg Computing in the Network Research Group Rm 6 SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for = Constrained Environments WG Rm 8 SEC privacypass Privacy Pass WG From nobody Mon Feb 15 07:57:10 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4E33A0CDB for ; 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Mon, 15 Feb 2021 07:57:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <161317640619.31337.11833736908474593893@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <161317640619.31337.11833736908474593893@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Ines Robles Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 17:56:29 +0200 Message-ID: To: roll Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008ea03205bb62098a" Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] Call for topics - IETF 110 X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 15:57:08 -0000 --0000000000008ea03205bb62098a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear all, Please let us know by 22th February if you wish to present a topic at the IETF 110 Online meeting (see below), indicating: Topic, Time requested, Presenter. Thank you and Best regards, Ines and Dominique On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 2:33 AM "IETF Secretariat" wrote: > Dear Ines Robles, > > The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. > Below is the scheduled session information followed by > the original request. > > > roll Session 1 (1:00 requested) > Thursday, 11 March 2021, Session II 1530-1630 > Room Name: Room 6 size: 506 > --------------------------------------------- > > > iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/sessions/roll.ics > > Request Information: > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Working Group Name: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > Area Name: Routing Area > Session Requester: Ines Robles > > > Number of Sessions: 1 > Length of Session(s): 1 Hour > Number of Attendees: 25 > Conflicts to Avoid: > Chair Conflict: anima manet cellar asdf 6tisch core ace > Technology Overlap: rtgarea 6lo 6man lwig cbor t2trg > Key Participant Conflict: detnet rtgwg intarea lpwan > > > > > > People who must be present: > Alvaro Retana > Dominique Barthel > Ines Robles > Michael Richardson > > Resources Requested: > > Special Requests: > Additional key participant conflict: paw - that could not be added in > the previous list > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > --0000000000008ea03205bb62098a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,

Please l= et us know by 22th February if you wish to present a topic at the IETF 110 = Online meeting (see below), indicating:

Topic, Tim= e requested, Presenter.=C2=A0

Thank you and Best r= egards,

Ines and Dominique=C2=A0

On Sat, Feb = 13, 2021 at 2:33 AM "IETF Secretariat" <agenda@ietf.org> wrote:
Dear Ines Robles,

The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the original request.


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 roll Session 1 (1:00 requested)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thursday, 11 March 2021, Session II 1530-1630
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Room Name: Room 6 size: 506
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---------------------------------------------


iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/me= eting/110/sessions/roll.ics

Request Information:


---------------------------------------------------------
Working Group Name: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks
Area Name: Routing Area
Session Requester: Ines Robles


Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):=C2=A0 1 Hour
Number of Attendees: 25
Conflicts to Avoid:
=C2=A0Chair Conflict: anima manet cellar asdf 6tisch core ace
=C2=A0Technology Overlap: rtgarea 6lo 6man lwig cbor t2trg
=C2=A0Key Participant Conflict: detnet rtgwg intarea lpwan





People who must be present:
=C2=A0 Alvaro Retana
=C2=A0 Dominique Barthel
=C2=A0 Ines Robles
=C2=A0 Michael Richardson

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
=C2=A0 Additional key participant conflict: paw - that could not be added i= n the previous list
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$\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] Call for topics - IETF 110 X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 17:02:44 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to present a few slides (ask a few questions) about architectural directions involving P-DAO, capabilities and the like, based upon my understanding of the 6 P-DAO options that Pascal explained so incredibly well. 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I could quickly skim through the salient points and get feedback, however, nothing has changed since the last session nor are there any open tickets/issues. Presenter: Rahul Jadhav Time: 5 to 10 mins Thanks, Rahul On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 21:27, Ines Robles wrote: > Dear all, > > Please let us know by 22th February if you wish to present a topic at the > IETF 110 Online meeting (see below), indicating: > > Topic, Time requested, Presenter. > > Thank you and Best regards, > > Ines and Dominique > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 2:33 AM "IETF Secretariat" > wrote: > >> Dear Ines Robles, >> >> The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. >> Below is the scheduled session information followed by >> the original request. >> >> >> roll Session 1 (1:00 requested) >> Thursday, 11 March 2021, Session II 1530-1630 >> Room Name: Room 6 size: 506 >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> >> iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/sessions/roll.ics >> >> Request Information: >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Working Group Name: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks >> Area Name: Routing Area >> Session Requester: Ines Robles >> >> >> Number of Sessions: 1 >> Length of Session(s): 1 Hour >> Number of Attendees: 25 >> Conflicts to Avoid: >> Chair Conflict: anima manet cellar asdf 6tisch core ace >> Technology Overlap: rtgarea 6lo 6man lwig cbor t2trg >> Key Participant Conflict: detnet rtgwg intarea lpwan >> >> >> >> >> >> People who must be present: >> Alvaro Retana >> Dominique Barthel >> Ines Robles >> Michael Richardson >> >> Resources Requested: >> >> Special Requests: >> Additional key participant conflict: paw - that could not be added in >> the previous list >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --000000000000814d1205bb9c82b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would like to present about Capabilities and MOPex.=C2= =A0I could quickly skim through the salient points and get feedback, howeve= r, nothing has changed since the last session nor are there any open ticket= s/issues.

Presenter: Rahul Jadhav
Time: 5 to 1= 0 mins

Thanks,
Rahul

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 = at 21:27, Ines Robles <mariainesrobles=3D40googlemail.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
Dear all,

Please let us know by 22th Febru= ary if you wish to present a topic at the IETF 110 Online meeting (see belo= w), indicating:

Topic, Time requested, Presenter.= =C2=A0

Thank you and Best regards,

<= /div>
Ines and Dominique=C2=A0

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 2:33 AM &qu= ot;IETF Secretariat" <agenda@ietf.org> wrote:
Dear Ines Robles,

The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the original request.


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 roll Session 1 (1:00 requested)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thursday, 11 March 2021, Session II 1530-1630
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Room Name: Room 6 size: 506
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---------------------------------------------


iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/me= eting/110/sessions/roll.ics

Request Information:


---------------------------------------------------------
Working Group Name: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks
Area Name: Routing Area
Session Requester: Ines Robles


Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):=C2=A0 1 Hour
Number of Attendees: 25
Conflicts to Avoid:
=C2=A0Chair Conflict: anima manet cellar asdf 6tisch core ace
=C2=A0Technology Overlap: rtgarea 6lo 6man lwig cbor t2trg
=C2=A0Key Participant Conflict: detnet rtgwg intarea lpwan





People who must be present:
=C2=A0 Alvaro Retana
=C2=A0 Dominique Barthel
=C2=A0 Ines Robles
=C2=A0 Michael Richardson

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
=C2=A0 Additional key participant conflict: paw - that could not be added i= n the previous list
---------------------------------------------------------


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Roll mailing list
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Wed, 24 Feb 2021 06:16:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <161317640619.31337.11833736908474593893@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: From: Ines Robles Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:16:12 +0200 Message-ID: To: roll Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000082400b05bc15affa" Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] IETF 110 - Materials - Agenda X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 14:16:52 -0000 --00000000000082400b05bc15affa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear all, Please find below the link to the ROLL agenda for the IETF 110, comments welcome. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/materials/agenda-110-roll-01 Presenters, please send us in pdf format the slide set or upload it into the site by 8th March Site to upload the slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/session/roll Thank you very much, Ines and Dominique On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 5:56 PM Ines Robles wrote: > Dear all, > > Please let us know by 22th February if you wish to present a topic at the > IETF 110 Online meeting (see below), indicating: > > Topic, Time requested, Presenter. > > Thank you and Best regards, > > Ines and Dominique > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 2:33 AM "IETF Secretariat" > wrote: > >> Dear Ines Robles, >> >> The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. >> Below is the scheduled session information followed by >> the original request. >> >> >> roll Session 1 (1:00 requested) >> Thursday, 11 March 2021, Session II 1530-1630 >> Room Name: Room 6 size: 506 >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> >> iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/sessions/roll.ics >> >> Request Information: >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Working Group Name: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks >> Area Name: Routing Area >> Session Requester: Ines Robles >> >> >> Number of Sessions: 1 >> Length of Session(s): 1 Hour >> Number of Attendees: 25 >> Conflicts to Avoid: >> Chair Conflict: anima manet cellar asdf 6tisch core ace >> Technology Overlap: rtgarea 6lo 6man lwig cbor t2trg >> Key Participant Conflict: detnet rtgwg intarea lpwan >> >> >> >> >> >> People who must be present: >> Alvaro Retana >> Dominique Barthel >> Ines Robles >> Michael Richardson >> >> Resources Requested: >> >> Special Requests: >> Additional key participant conflict: paw - that could not be added in >> the previous list >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> --00000000000082400b05bc15affa Content-Type: text/html; 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Please find below the link to the ROLL agenda for the IETF 110, c= omments=C2=A0welcome.=C2=A0

Presenters, please send us in pdf format the slide set or uplo= ad it into the site by 8th March

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Thank you very much,

Ines and Domini= que=C2=A0

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 5:56 PM Ines Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> wro= te:
Dear all,

Please let us know b= y 22th February if you wish to present a topic at the IETF 110 Online meeti= ng (see below), indicating:

Topic, Time requested,= Presenter.=C2=A0

Thank you and Best regards,

Ines and Dominique=C2=A0

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at = 2:33 AM "IETF Secretariat" <agenda@ietf.org> wrote:
Dear Ines Robles,

The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the original request.


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 roll Session 1 (1:00 requested)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thursday, 11 March 2021, Session II 1530-1630
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Room Name: Room 6 size: 506
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---------------------------------------------


iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/me= eting/110/sessions/roll.ics

Request Information:


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Working Group Name: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks
Area Name: Routing Area
Session Requester: Ines Robles


Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):=C2=A0 1 Hour
Number of Attendees: 25
Conflicts to Avoid:
=C2=A0Chair Conflict: anima manet cellar asdf 6tisch core ace
=C2=A0Technology Overlap: rtgarea 6lo 6man lwig cbor t2trg
=C2=A0Key Participant Conflict: detnet rtgwg intarea lpwan





People who must be present:
=C2=A0 Alvaro Retana
=C2=A0 Dominique Barthel
=C2=A0 Ines Robles
=C2=A0 Michael Richardson

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
=C2=A0 Additional key participant conflict: paw - that could not be added i= n the previous list
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