From wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com Tue Mar 12 04:15:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D0021F85EE for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:15:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.999, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2izCC23kNlTI for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail6.alcatel.fr (smail6.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7764021F85B2 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.64]) by smail6.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id r2CBEki0014347 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:15:28 +0100 Received: from FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (135.239.2.111) by FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.64) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:15:16 +0100 Received: from FR712WXCHMBA14.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.6.200]) by FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.111]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:15:16 +0100 From: "Henderickx, Wim (Wim)" To: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" Subject: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-katz-ward-bfd-multipoint-02 Thread-Topic: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-katz-ward-bfd-multipoint-02 Thread-Index: AQHOHxLfv0B/ijEqVUOQotY8UdF0vQ== Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:15:15 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.1.130117 x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.40] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CD64867F3BA5Bwimhenderickxalcatellucentcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.84 X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:15:32 -0000 --_000_CD64867F3BA5Bwimhenderickxalcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Was discussing with Jeff yesterday on the above draft. Given the draft expi= red are we going to move this forward? We have implemented most of this draft in the context of MVPN to facilitate= detection times of leaf failure of P2MP LSPs. We did no implement the head= -end notification given BGP is used for this in the context of MVPN. We believe the draft is in good shape and would like to see this moving for= ward. --_000_CD64867F3BA5Bwimhenderickxalcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <78551D096214B74DB7E29729F79DCBFD@exchange.lucent.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Was discussing with Jeff yesterday on the above draft. Given the draft= expired are we going to move this forward?
We have implemented most of this draft in the context of MVPN to facil= itate detection times of leaf failure of P2MP LSPs. We did no implement the= head-end notification given BGP is used for this in the context of MVPN.&n= bsp;
We believe the draft is in good shape and would like to see this movin= g forward.

--_000_CD64867F3BA5Bwimhenderickxalcatellucentcom_-- From gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com Tue Mar 12 07:09:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6559411E80D7 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:09:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f0CrOYXaQD9t for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg20.ericsson.net (usevmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA5811E80D5 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:09:07 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c618062d-b7f0d6d00000097e-29-513f3702b42b Received: from EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.81]) by usevmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B6.01.02430.2073F315; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:09:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.81]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:09:06 -0400 From: Gregory Mirsky To: "Henderickx, Wim (Wim)" , "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" Subject: RE: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-katz-ward-bfd-multipoint-02 Thread-Topic: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-katz-ward-bfd-multipoint-02 Thread-Index: AQHOHxLfv0B/ijEqVUOQotY8UdF0vZiiF6FA Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:09:05 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11206F781@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.135] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11206F781eusaamb103ericsso_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrFLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPoC6zuX2gwZ7FfBaf/2xjtJj9+Aeb A5NH67O9rB5LlvxkCmCK4rJJSc3JLEst0rdL4Mp4uGYrY8F26Yqj346wNDC+Fu9i5OSQEDCR eDLpKCuELSZx4d56ti5GLg4hgSOMEhcu9DJDOMsZJV4c+88CUsUmYCTxYmMPO4gtIpAh8eTb LjYQW1jAU+Lgm91MEHEvibere5ghbCOJO8/vgPWyCKhKLJq1EGwbr4C3xJL/E8FqhATsJB42 rwGbwylgL7Fndj9YnBHoou+n1oDNZBYQl7j1ZD4TxKUCEkv2nGeGsEUlXj7+B/WBssT3OY9Y IOrzJY5ev8wOsUtQ4uTMJywTGEVmIRk1C0nZLCRlEHEdiQW7P7FB2NoSyxa+Zoaxzxx4zIQs voCRfRUjR2lxalluupHBJkZg/ByTYNPdwbjnpeUhRmkOFiVx3iDXCwFCAumJJanZqakFqUXx RaU5qcWHGJk4OKUaGBO/5v52cb96ucPHPODyRhYVhaDfjYYcEt9dfh/a2Fg3Yc7iC22bfWIU CgSmGSfLGd/ODz6inmUgor5NZNr2JsnKdbOa0md8r5n3ODaNyWhSVlVM+PMaUYekpRO2lbZa Tjs5b4/iG47A6Q231M1v2Z2MbMox4/v0/1pV0X61VA4ll8bvbLWTlFiKMxINtZiLihMBm6KC mG0CAAA= X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:09:08 -0000 --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11206F781eusaamb103ericsso_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I believe it was adopted as WG document draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-01 though= it expired because of neglect. Perhaps mere re-pub as -02 will do. Regards, Greg ________________________________ From: rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Henderickx, Wim (Wim) Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:15 AM To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-katz-ward-bfd-multipoint-02 Was discussing with Jeff yesterday on the above draft. Given the draft expi= red are we going to move this forward? We have implemented most of this draft in the context of MVPN to facilitate= detection times of leaf failure of P2MP LSPs. We did no implement the head= -end notification given BGP is used for this in the context of MVPN. We believe the draft is in good shape and would like to see this moving for= ward. --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11206F781eusaamb103ericsso_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I believe it was adopted as WG document draft-ietf-= bfd-multipoint-01 though it expired because of neglect. Perhaps mere re-pub= as -02 will do.
 
 &n= bsp;  Regards, 
 &n= bsp;      Greg

From: rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org [mai= lto:rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:15 AM
To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org
Subject: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-katz-ward-bfd-multipoint-0= 2

Was discussing with Jeff yesterday on the above draft. Given the draft= expired are we going to move this forward?
We have implemented most of this draft in the context of MVPN to facil= itate detection times of leaf failure of P2MP LSPs. We did no implement the= head-end notification given BGP is used for this in the context of MVPN.&n= bsp;
We believe the draft is in good shape and would like to see this movin= g forward.

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So if you do have an implementation which is inter-operable, then I would imagine there is a good case for progress on the draft. Thanks, Vikas=20 From: Gregory Mirsky Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:39 PM To: "Henderickx, Wim (Wim)" , "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" Subject: RE: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-katz-ward-bfd-multipoint-02 Hi, I believe it was adopted as WG document draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-01 though it expired because of neglect. Perhaps mere re-pub as -02 will do. =20 =20 Regards,=20 =20 Greg ________________________________________ From: rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henderickx, Wim (Wim) Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:15 AM To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-katz-ward-bfd-multipoint-02 Was discussing with Jeff yesterday on the above draft. Given the draft expired are we going to move this forward? We have implemented most of this draft in the context of MVPN to facilitate detection times of leaf failure of P2MP LSPs. We did no implement the head-end notification given BGP is used for this in the context of MVPN.=20 We believe the draft is in good shape and would like to see this moving forward. From jhaas@slice.pfrc.org Wed Mar 13 06:06:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678C721F8D02 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 06:06:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c+HYXsj0APNR for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 06:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E9A21F8CEA for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6850EC2A8; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:06:36 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Gregory Mirsky Subject: Re: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-katz-ward-bfd-multipoint-02 Message-ID: <20130313130636.GB1955@pfrc> References: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11206F781@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11206F781@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:06:37 -0000 On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 02:09:05PM +0000, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi, > I believe it was adopted as WG document draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-01 though it expired because of neglect. Perhaps mere re-pub as -02 will do. I'll be nagging various people about re-publishing their drafts post IETF (and at IETF). WG work seems to be moving along well, but I've been slacking as a chair in pushing authors on getting things moved to a publishable RFC state. :-) -- Jeff