From nobody Fri Oct 2 09:45:09 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D0B1B2DAD; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:45:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aaj3bGLQJ2ER; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE2031B2B12; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:45:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=463; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1443804307; x=1445013907; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=toDaiuqOkM0Q5a7/EqgpUDR7ENte0FPz4c9QlYY8IFQ=; b=fuycPf9L7BXX65yDpK6D350892ySeU/N6CYaKQoCSPxadwPe319Q96Aa hxxqD8EYtEoS2y11rdLrnZbP/gHma824tVJvexhvPS+3zyGs25HBg1cMS 19pTzq1L9Qm7kGGSybYgIXrRveyigyu16M8UCizIprgpn/HZgIwsMqDxw c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0DuAQDZsw5W/5tdJa1egyeBMw++BAENh3QCgTY4FAEBAQEBAQGBCoQkAQEBAwE6PwULAgEIGB4QMiUCBA4FiCYIzAABAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEXhnMBgg+CboRaMweDGIEUAQSSSYMzAY0WgVaEOJVVHwEBQoQCcYl4AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.17,624,1437436800"; d="scan'208";a="37142132" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2015 16:45:06 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-006.cisco.com (xch-aln-006.cisco.com [173.36.7.16]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t92Gj55G010652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 2 Oct 2015 16:45:06 GMT Received: from xch-aln-006.cisco.com (173.36.7.16) by XCH-ALN-006.cisco.com (173.36.7.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 11:45:05 -0500 Received: from xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com (173.36.12.76) by xch-aln-006.cisco.com (173.36.7.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 11:45:05 -0500 Received: from xmb-aln-x15.cisco.com ([169.254.9.98]) by xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com ([173.36.12.76]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 11:45:05 -0500 From: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" To: "Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)" Subject: Re: AD Review of draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02 Thread-Topic: AD Review of draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02 Thread-Index: AQHQ9uNWQ24/sz8CtEe6rajxOetPKp5YaCnggAANcZk= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 16:45:04 +0000 Message-ID: <12160138-E339-49CF-8CBE-BE3B3DA5BE37@cisco.com> References: , <27757bbf613748749ec9805e50546ba2@XCH-RCD-020.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <27757bbf613748749ec9805e50546ba2@XCH-RCD-020.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications@ietf.org" , "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "bfd-chairs@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 16:45:08 -0000 Prasad: Hi! I hope you're feeling better. The diffs look good to me. =20 Thanks! Alvaro. Thumb-typed and autocorrected.. > On Oct 2, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi) wrote: >=20 > Apologies for the delayed response, I was on sick leave due to back pain.= I have attached the diffs for review, and will upload the new version befo= re the deadline. Please let me know if you have any comments. From nobody Fri Oct 2 09:55:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD8F1B2F3F; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:55:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rs--Us5UZYGs; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068F71B2F3C; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (99-59-193-146.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net [99.59.193.146]) by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 150A21E38B; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B3DD12C8-647D-4AD5-A591-45F4052C5149" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: AD Review of draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02 From: Jeffrey Haas In-Reply-To: <27757bbf613748749ec9805e50546ba2@XCH-RCD-020.cisco.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:55:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: <27757bbf613748749ec9805e50546ba2@XCH-RCD-020.cisco.com> To: "Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications@ietf.org" , "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "bfd-chairs@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 16:55:52 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B3DD12C8-647D-4AD5-A591-45F4052C5149 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks, Prasad. The phrase "the straw that broke the camel's back" isn't supposed to = apply to Internet-drafts. (Some of which are very heavy when printed!) Get better! -- Jeff > On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi) = wrote: >=20 > Apologies for the delayed response, I was on sick leave due to back = pain. I have attached the diffs for review, and will upload the new = version before the deadline. Please let me know if you have any = comments. --Apple-Mail=_B3DD12C8-647D-4AD5-A591-45F4052C5149 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thanks, Prasad.

The phrase "the straw that broke the camel's back" isn't = supposed to apply to Internet-drafts.  (Some of which are very = heavy when printed!)

Get better!

-- Jeff

On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:58 AM, = Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi) <venggovi@cisco.com> = wrote:

  Apologies = for the delayed response, I was on sick leave due to back pain. I have = attached the diffs for review, and will upload the new version before = the deadline. Please let me know if you have any = comments.

= --Apple-Mail=_B3DD12C8-647D-4AD5-A591-45F4052C5149-- From nobody Fri Oct 2 10:13:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1001B2F79; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:13:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IcT2wX62b4GX; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013781B2F7C; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 590681E38C; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:17:21 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Loa Andersson Subject: Re: AD Review of draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-use-case Message-ID: <20151002171721.GO5754@pfrc.org> References: <713AD0F3-FD85-440F-A59C-40E64B10E4CA@gmail.com> <20150929154310.GC2130@pfrc.org> <560B6942.9050700@pi.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <560B6942.9050700@pi.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-use-case@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "bfd-chairs@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 17:13:34 -0000 Loa, On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:46:58PM +0800, Loa Andersson wrote: > >Adopting the document within the WG basically means the working group "owns" > >the document and that we're motivated to get work on it done. This includes > >things like tracking it via a milestone. > > We talk about this as taking over the revision control. The motivation > point is important, when a document stops being individual and becomes a > working group document, there is a real difference for the authors / > editors. This one is mostly a matter of organizational "ownership". Individuals are of course welcome to publish within the IETF, but most standards obviously are products of the "working group". While that's often many of the original authors, it's really the contribution of the whole group that provides support. > >Not all WG documents will be published as RFCs. > > > yes but that does not necessarily stop them from being wg documents. > Actually the status of wiki text is a bit ambivalent, at least if it is > possible for anyone to change it (that is often what is said to be the > benefit of the wiki). Wikis are useful for stuff that needs to be up to date, but less so for something that needs to cross the border from timely to authoritative. Use cases are a good example when they should be a living document. However, use cases tend to die out once the proposal has gotten to a certain portion of its lifetime, except perhaps as a historical curiosity. The proposal moves from being something you talk about doing to something people say "this is the tool we use to ". One thing wikis would be very helpful for that we don't utilize as well as we should is a document roadmap or architectural overview. Some WGs publish such things periodically, especially once their corpus of documents becomes large. Our tools are very poor at providing such relationships. > Actually between the wg doucments page, the wg milestones and wiki-based > material, I frequently find that the document page need everything I > need, if maintained properly. The rest is mostly redundant. > > Over a year and half I worked very hard to maintain milestones and found > that this was extra work, the document pae, including document history > give me what I need. I've found somewhat the opposite, and this is why I try to maintain the WG wiki for document status. When I "peek into" a WG I'm unfamiliar with and haven't tracked the mailing list or sessions for, it's hard to tell in the sets of dozens of documents what has support, what people are doing, whether the document is getting active work, etc. To give an in-WG example, the cryptographic extensions to BFD is work that has been adopted, is likely correct at this point in time, but doesn't have strong support to ship in vendor products yet. Since the WG would prefer some sort of proof of concept that it works, the documents are stalled. This story is hard to determine from the datatracker. -- Jeff From nobody Fri Oct 2 10:35:40 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020251B2FA4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:35:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id emonH2WUGn7A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F771A8771 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5FA0A1E38C; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:39:26 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Mahesh Jethanandani Subject: Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-mahesh-bfd-authentication-01.txt Message-ID: <20151002173926.GP5754@pfrc.org> References: <20150930022701.5965.79739.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf. org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 17:35:39 -0000 Mahesh, Thanks for the update to the document. Here are a few comments on it. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:09:46PM -0700, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > This version of the draft addresses concerns that were raised in IETF 92. > The change is to carry a sequence number in every packet of BFD. Carrying > a sequence number for authentication reasons is not new, but with > selective authentication it helps detect MITM attack and has the benefit > of detecting lost BFD frames. The NULL auth carries overlap with draft-ashesh-bfd-stability. The contents and semantics are a bit different. The two documents will have to be reconciled with each other. FWIW, I think the idea of supporting the session with null-auth is a good one. A place where I think the document needs to be more proscriptive is about *when* you use the more aggressive crypto. As I was working through the possible modes, it almost seems as if anything that is intended to alter the BFD Control packet prior to the Authentication section is a good idea. I suspect Poll sequences are the most impacted by such logic. At some point if the generic crypto draft resurrects we'll also have to accommodate this proposal in it. What's your intention for the document? Time to ask for adoption? -- Jeff From nobody Fri Oct 2 10:41:01 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1040B1B2FD4 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:41:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.321 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.321 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tr9PFlp-zFQe for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5BB1B2FD0 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D23AA1E38C; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:44:48 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: Call for presentation topics for IETF-94, Yokohama Message-ID: <20151002174448.GQ5754@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 17:41:00 -0000 Working Group, I have requested a short slot, 1/2 hour, for IETF-94 since we haven't met for a while. If you have any desire to present before the group, please send mail to the list. If we expand past the short time slot, we can request a longer slot; we're often given more time than we ask anyway just due to how the scheduling Sudoku exercise goes for meetings. It's beter to know sooner than later than we could use the time. If we have no topics for discussion within a week (October 9), we'll ask fro the session to be canceled. Meanwhile, please use the list to move forward our work! -- Jeff & Nobo From nobody Fri Oct 2 13:54:24 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1031B2A6D for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:54:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lNkhpcmG9IRm for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-x236.google.com (mail-pa0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C5D61B2DEE for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by padhy16 with SMTP id hy16so115918644pad.1 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 13:54:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=1lLcSDuVlX6roZ2BCnxramNdXd59YA5A7dCHPY8BWdQ=; b=QWewt7lzujqYvleAAvK5HgpqX3JP/nYVfqQDT+vl3Fraa3REJVVVZ+MUw6gq7xIsJu eGpz5alLaMRx4N3RNpNUt4o2547kNm+vSG2VNS3ei7TCQGQTeNTsk2+Q9Wm9Bc9OBch4 ig98elSnGmNGWXpDKNCXKJMVe+awP1fz8hDf3tF88++gT0oUrq0CADLn4rLeXz2tCUs3 U8wb43B4qiD5ytg+04HviILLUw2HAmx+szRVUW+N7beQCTv2wDXvTcRYhYSgWRCwdZF6 x169ViNog53mcp5vniQPiXeAYlI7ow98aOPSYrdadbA5hjYaaMJcqfbB/sUxvmDwmghV Q8oA== X-Received: by 10.67.30.136 with SMTP id ke8mr22824352pad.16.1443819260979; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 13:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:420:c0c8:1008::208? ([2001:420:c0c8:1008::208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ot8sm13602285pbb.26.2015.10.02.13.54.19 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Oct 2015 13:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F1EF9FBE-AA5C-4889-A2B2-6DBB435F6CEA" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-mahesh-bfd-authentication-01.txt From: Mahesh Jethanandani In-Reply-To: <20151002173926.GP5754@pfrc.org> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 13:54:19 -0700 Message-Id: <01DA576E-C388-4829-B066-608EB1785851@gmail.com> References: <20150930022701.5965.79739.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <20151002173926.GP5754@pfrc.org> To: Jeffrey Haas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 20:54:23 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F1EF9FBE-AA5C-4889-A2B2-6DBB435F6CEA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Oct 2, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: >=20 > Mahesh, >=20 > Thanks for the update to the document. Here are a few comments on it. >=20 > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:09:46PM -0700, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: >> This version of the draft addresses concerns that were raised in IETF = 92. >> The change is to carry a sequence number in every packet of BFD. = Carrying >> a sequence number for authentication reasons is not new, but with >> selective authentication it helps detect MITM attack and has the = benefit >> of detecting lost BFD frames. >=20 > The NULL auth carries overlap with draft-ashesh-bfd-stability. The = contents > and semantics are a bit different. The two documents will have to be > reconciled with each other. That is correct. Let me work with the authors of both the drafts to = reconcile the format for NULL auth in a way that works for everyone. = Santosh, this will not impact draft-ashesh-bfd-stability, as the NULL = auth definition in this draft should reflect the format that exists in = the stability draft. >=20 > FWIW, I think the idea of supporting the session with null-auth is a = good > one. >=20 > A place where I think the document needs to be more proscriptive is = about > *when* you use the more aggressive crypto. As I was working through = the > possible modes, it almost seems as if anything that is intended to = alter the > BFD Control packet prior to the Authentication section is a good idea. That is also correct. Would it help to state exactly the state = transitions that will be covered by authentication? There is a question of keys that are being used for authentication and = how often they are rolled over. But that is out-of-band and was = (supposed to be) covered by KARP WG, and therefore out of scope of this = draft. >=20 > I suspect Poll sequences are the most impacted by such logic. Those and diagnostic frames that bring the session down. >=20 > At some point if the generic crypto draft resurrects we'll also have = to > accommodate this proposal in it. >=20 > What's your intention for the document? Time to ask for adoption? Yes, we would like a call for WG adoption of the draft. I can post an = updated draft. Thanks. >=20 > -- Jeff Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_F1EF9FBE-AA5C-4889-A2B2-6DBB435F6CEA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Oct 2, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> = wrote:

Mahesh,

Thanks for the update to = the document.  Here are a few comments on it.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:09:46PM -0700, Mahesh Jethanandani = wrote:
This version = of the draft addresses concerns that were raised in IETF 92.
The change is to carry a sequence number in every packet of = BFD. Carrying
a sequence number for authentication reasons = is not new, but with
selective authentication it helps = detect MITM attack and has the benefit
of detecting lost = BFD frames.

The NULL auth = carries overlap with draft-ashesh-bfd-stability.  The contents
and semantics are a bit different.  The two documents = will have to be
reconciled with each other.

That is correct. = Let me work with the authors  of both the drafts to reconcile the = format for NULL auth in a way that works for everyone. Santosh, this = will not impact draft-ashesh-bfd-stability, as the NULL auth definition = in this draft should reflect the format that exists in the stability = draft.


FWIW, I think the idea of supporting the = session with null-auth is a good
one.

A place where I think the document needs to be more = proscriptive is about
*when* you use the more aggressive = crypto.  As I was working through the
possible modes, = it almost seems as if anything that is intended to alter the
BFD Control packet prior to the Authentication section is a = good idea.

That= is also correct. Would it help to state exactly the state transitions = that will be covered by authentication?

There is a question of keys that are being used = for authentication and how often they are rolled over. But that is = out-of-band and was (supposed to be) covered by KARP WG, and therefore = out of scope of this draft.


I suspect Poll = sequences are the most impacted by such logic.

Those and = diagnostic frames that bring the session down.


At some point if the generic crypto draft resurrects we'll = also have to
accommodate this proposal in it.

What's your intention for the document? =  Time to ask for adoption?

Yes, we would like a call for WG adoption of the draft. = I can post an updated draft.

Thanks.


-- Jeff

Mahesh Jethanandani
mjethanandani@gmail.com





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This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection Working Group of the IETF. Title : Clarifications to RFC 5884 Authors : Vengada Prasad Govindan Kalyani Rajaraman Gregory Mirsky Nobo Akiya Sam Aldrin Filename : draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-03.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2015-10-03 Abstract: This document clarifies the procedures for establishing, maintaining and removing multiple, concurrent BFD sessions for a given described in RFC5884. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Mon, 5 Oct 2015 07:22:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TpAMECPnxaLe for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 07:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18341A014C for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 07:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 885261E38D; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 10:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 10:26:07 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Mahesh Jethanandani Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-mahesh-bfd-authentication-01.txt Message-ID: <20151005142607.GE18260@pfrc.org> References: <20150930022701.5965.79739.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <20151002173926.GP5754@pfrc.org> <01DA576E-C388-4829-B066-608EB1785851@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01DA576E-C388-4829-B066-608EB1785851@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:22:14 -0000 Mahesh, On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 01:54:19PM -0700, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > > A place where I think the document needs to be more proscriptive is about > > *when* you use the more aggressive crypto. As I was working through the > > possible modes, it almost seems as if anything that is intended to alter the > > BFD Control packet prior to the Authentication section is a good idea. > > That is also correct. Would it help to state exactly the state transitions that will be covered by authentication? I think this is a requirement. > There is a question of keys that are being used for authentication and how often they are rolled over. But that is out-of-band and was (supposed to be) covered by KARP WG, and therefore out of scope of this draft. This required the use of the crypto extensions I-D anyway. > > What's your intention for the document? Time to ask for adoption? > > Yes, we would like a call for WG adoption of the draft. I can post an updated draft. My suggestion will be to update the Working Group during this upcoming session in Yokohama. We can poll for adoption after that? -- Jeff From nobody Mon Oct 5 09:25:50 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992051A1B19 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 09:25:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id znEq1Mz4Gih2 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 09:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0111.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.111]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA3A81A1B88 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 09:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SN1PR0501MB1760.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.163.130.27) by SN1PR0501MB1757.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.163.130.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.286.20; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:23:41 +0000 Received: from SN1PR0501MB1760.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.130.27]) by SN1PR0501MB1760.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.130.27]) with mapi id 15.01.0286.019; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:23:41 +0000 From: Santosh P K To: Jeffrey Haas , "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" Subject: RE: Call for presentation topics for IETF-94, Yokohama Thread-Topic: Call for presentation topics for IETF-94, Yokohama Thread-Index: AQHQ/TmEbpsCOMUWvkSSI+4Q9BvxCZ5dGctg Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:23:41 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20151002174448.GQ5754@pfrc.org> In-Reply-To: <20151002174448.GQ5754@pfrc.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=santoshpk@juniper.net; x-originating-ip: [116.197.184.12] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; SN1PR0501MB1757; 5:O28IYpYfujtTH0lirqkXKbCI8B3Am72jGEzw5oXOalyFA6vLUVFf+J5intGjbHaWBn1qh7dzsWl4GCWms9WT4N7y4I6xNyJ6iXSAsxmkVbGKWxO6oZpv1a0OWD42ANwK/FwKvxPj4gxGqy4yjy86Qg==; 24:mD3aOnzgyocPkyknz+ctoaA6T03u/7f6SlReUcz6Qa6nOEoGBqkBOehkHKSsbF2tXRof0JNNk7Da3rvhdFhfpgax7UF2+3M0u9EDZCIHI2Q=; 20:uzo0aQDc2b8qRhAuv/rNU+GAvzt1oIR52npC6ilafqzudsyKoAGFnCIqPZORRJlkAHQ0cZmQ+2Pp0Y3zugKtkQ== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:SN1PR0501MB1757; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(8121501046)(5005006)(520078)(3002001); SRVR:SN1PR0501MB1757; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:SN1PR0501MB1757; x-forefront-prvs: 07200C0526 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(189002)(377454003)(13464003)(199003)(62966003)(5004730100002)(107886002)(76576001)(19580395003)(86362001)(189998001)(106116001)(40100003)(122556002)(102836002)(50986999)(5001770100001)(68736005)(5001830100001)(10400500002)(97736004)(5002640100001)(76176999)(5008740100001)(77096005)(5001960100002)(5001860100001)(4001540100001)(2501003)(81156007)(54356999)(64706001)(66066001)(106356001)(77156002)(11100500001)(87936001)(101416001)(105586002)(19580405001)(33656002)(5003600100002)(46102003)(99286002)(2950100001)(74316001)(92566002)(2900100001)(5007970100001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:SN1PR0501MB1757; H:SN1PR0501MB1760.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 05 Oct 2015 16:23:41.5767 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SN1PR0501MB1757 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 16:25:47 -0000 Jeff, We would like to present BFD VXLAN. This has not been presented in any = of the WG till now.=20 Thanks Santosh P K=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Rtg-bfd [mailto:rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Haas > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 11:15 PM > To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org > Subject: Call for presentation topics for IETF-94, Yokohama >=20 > Working Group, >=20 > I have requested a short slot, 1/2 hour, for IETF-94 since we haven't met= for a > while. If you have any desire to present before the group, please send m= ail > to the list. >=20 > If we expand past the short time slot, we can request a longer slot; we'r= e > often given more time than we ask anyway just due to how the scheduling > Sudoku exercise goes for meetings. It's beter to know sooner than later = than > we could use the time. >=20 > If we have no topics for discussion within a week (October 9), we'll ask = fro > the session to be canceled. >=20 > Meanwhile, please use the list to move forward our work! >=20 > -- Jeff & Nobo From nobody Mon Oct 5 09:28:12 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7887A1A1B4E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 09:28:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4AiVgI1ea8_9 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 09:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C291A1B5F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D4F0E1E38D; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:31:01 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: Re: Call for presentation topics for IETF-94, Yokohama Message-ID: <20151005163101.GG18260@pfrc.org> References: <20151002174448.GQ5754@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151002174448.GQ5754@pfrc.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 16:28:02 -0000 On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 01:44:48PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > I have requested a short slot, 1/2 hour, for IETF-94 since we haven't met > for a while. If you have any desire to present before the group, please > send mail to the list. We have a tentative time-slot for Tuesday morning for 1.5 hours. This gives us a little room to breathe in terms of discussion time for topics. We now have two timeslot requests: - BFD Fast Authentication update - BFD for VxLAN. -- Jeff From nobody Mon Oct 5 09:32:55 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A54F1A1B1F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 09:32:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.092 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.092 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FAKE_REPLY_C=1.486, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VM61rI3Rt6Rl for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 09:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C91D1A1B0E for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 09:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3CA191E4DB; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:36:46 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: RE: Call for presentation topics for IETF-94, Yokohama Message-ID: <20151005163646.GA5112@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 16:32:53 -0000 Greg points out that I can't read. Looks like we're doing split-meeting sessions. 1 hr should be plenty of time for us unless we're *really* busy. :-) -- Jeff ----- Forwarded message from Gregory Mirsky ----- Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:30:55 +0000 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Jeffrey Haas Subject: RE: Call for presentation topics for IETF-94, Yokohama Hi Jeff, I guess SPRING will disagree about 1.5 hours for BFD discussion in the room that two WGs to share on Tuesday morning. According to the preliminary agenda we've got an hour. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Rtg-bfd [mailto:rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Haas Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 9:31 AM To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: Re: Call for presentation topics for IETF-94, Yokohama On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 01:44:48PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > I have requested a short slot, 1/2 hour, for IETF-94 since we haven't > met for a while. If you have any desire to present before the group, > please send mail to the list. We have a tentative time-slot for Tuesday morning for 1.5 hours. This gives us a little room to breathe in terms of discussion time for topics. We now have two timeslot requests: - BFD Fast Authentication update - BFD for VxLAN. -- Jeff ----- End forwarded message ----- From nobody Mon Oct 5 11:17:07 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C2B1B32AF for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 11:17:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BSBnkqCp2oiZ for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 11:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F8E1B32A8 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 11:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 742B81E4DB; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:20:59 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: WGLC BFD Multipoint (with active tail) Message-ID: <20151005182059.GB5112@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:17:06 -0000 BFD Working Group, This starts an extended Working Group Last Call for the following documents: draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-active-tail This Last Call will end after IETF week at the upcoming IETF-94 in Yokohama, Japan. It gives us plenty of time to discuss any open issues with the documents, plus also provides opportunity for in-room discussion during the upcoming Working Group meeting if we need it. Please provide your feedback on the readiness of the documents to advance for publication by the IESG. Authors, Editors and Contributors, this is also your call to state whether these documents have any IPR considerations. -- Jeff From nobody Mon Oct 5 11:22:40 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7C71B32C3; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 11:22:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z0ma2mjCjGpm; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 11:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DECD1B32C2; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 11:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 45F7C1E4DB; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:26:31 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-bfd-mpls-mib Message-ID: <20151005182631.GD5112@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 18:22:38 -0000 BFD Working Group, (cc'ing MPLS) This begins an extended Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-bfd-mpls-mib, BFD Management Information Base (MIB) extensions for MPLS and MPLS-TP Networks. 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(Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for your work on this draft. I'd just ask that you expand out BFD on first use since it is an acronym used frequently in the draft. 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications@ietf.org" , "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "bfd-chairs@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 03:27:42 -0000 SGVsbG8gS2F0aGxlZW4sDQogVGhhbmtzIGZvciB5b3VyIGNvbW1lbnQsIHRoaXMgd2lsbCBiZSBh ZGRyZXNzZWQgaW4gdGhlIG5leHQgcmV2aXNpb24uDQpQcmFzYWQNCg0KLS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBN ZXNzYWdlLS0tLS0NCkZyb206IEthdGhsZWVuIE1vcmlhcnR5IFttYWlsdG86S2F0aGxlZW4uTW9y aWFydHkuaWV0ZkBnbWFpbC5jb21dIA0KU2VudDogV2VkbmVzZGF5LCBPY3RvYmVyIDE0LCAyMDE1 IDc6NTQgQU0NClRvOiBUaGUgSUVTRyA8aWVzZ0BpZXRmLm9yZz4NCkNjOiBKZWZmcmV5IEhhYXMg PGpoYWFzQHBmcmMub3JnPjsgZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1iZmQtcmZjNTg4NC1jbGFyaWZpY2F0aW9uc0Bp ZXRmLm9yZzsgYmZkLWNoYWlyc0BpZXRmLm9yZzsgQWx2YXJvIFJldGFuYSAoYXJldGFuYSkgPGFy ZXRhbmFAY2lzY28uY29tPjsgcnRnLWJmZEBpZXRmLm9yZw0KU3ViamVjdDogS2F0aGxlZW4gTW9y aWFydHkncyBObyBPYmplY3Rpb24gb24gZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1iZmQtcmZjNTg4NC1jbGFyaWZpY2F0 aW9ucy0wMzogKHdpdGggQ09NTUVOVCkNCg0KS2F0aGxlZW4gTW9yaWFydHkgaGFzIGVudGVyZWQg dGhlIGZvbGxvd2luZyBiYWxsb3QgcG9zaXRpb24gZm9yDQpkcmFmdC1pZXRmLWJmZC1yZmM1ODg0 LWNsYXJpZmljYXRpb25zLTAzOiBObyBPYmplY3Rpb24NCg0KV2hlbiByZXNwb25kaW5nLCBwbGVh c2Uga2VlcCB0aGUgc3ViamVjdCBsaW5lIGludGFjdCBhbmQgcmVwbHkgdG8gYWxsIGVtYWlsIGFk ZHJlc3NlcyBpbmNsdWRlZCBpbiB0aGUgVG8gYW5kIENDIGxpbmVzLiAoRmVlbCBmcmVlIHRvIGN1 dCB0aGlzIGludHJvZHVjdG9yeSBwYXJhZ3JhcGgsIGhvd2V2ZXIuKQ0KDQoNClBsZWFzZSByZWZl ciB0byBodHRwczovL3d3dy5pZXRmLm9yZy9pZXNnL3N0YXRlbWVudC9kaXNjdXNzLWNyaXRlcmlh Lmh0bWwNCmZvciBtb3JlIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIGFib3V0IElFU0cgRElTQ1VTUyBhbmQgQ09NTUVO VCBwb3NpdGlvbnMuDQoNCg0KVGhlIGRvY3VtZW50LCBhbG9uZyB3aXRoIG90aGVyIGJhbGxvdCBw b3NpdGlvbnMsIGNhbiBiZSBmb3VuZCBoZXJlOg0KaHR0cHM6Ly9kYXRhdHJhY2tlci5pZXRmLm9y Zy9kb2MvZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1iZmQtcmZjNTg4NC1jbGFyaWZpY2F0aW9ucy8NCg0KDQoNCi0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0NCkNPTU1FTlQ6DQotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQoNClRoYW5rcyBmb3IgeW91ciB3b3Jr IG9uIHRoaXMgZHJhZnQuICBJJ2QganVzdCBhc2sgdGhhdCB5b3UgZXhwYW5kIG91dCBCRkQgb24g Zmlyc3QgdXNlIHNpbmNlIGl0IGlzIGFuIGFjcm9ueW0gdXNlZCBmcmVxdWVudGx5IGluIHRoZSBk cmFmdC4NCg0KDQo= From nobody Wed Oct 14 07:38:29 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B567E1A8952; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:38:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gAvyUNM0lb_0; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2971A8923; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:38:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Brian Haberman" To: "The IESG" Subject: Brian Haberman's No Objection on draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-03: (with COMMENT) X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.5.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151014143827.30440.78575.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:38:27 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications@ietf.org, rtg-bfd@ietf.org, bfd-chairs@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:38:28 -0000 Brian Haberman has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-03: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Just a question on this draft... Given its status as clarifying (and updating) RFC 5884, does it also inherit any of the IPR claims levied against RFC 5884? From nobody Wed Oct 14 07:41:25 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6151A8A86; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:41:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tElmTEmpZdW2; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661EE1A8A4B; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 674D11E4DF; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:45:23 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Brian Haberman Subject: Re: Brian Haberman's No Objection on draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-03: (with COMMENT) Message-ID: <20151014144523.GA28921@pfrc.org> References: <20151014143827.30440.78575.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151014143827.30440.78575.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications@ietf.org, The IESG , bfd-chairs@ietf.org, rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:41:21 -0000 On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 07:38:27AM -0700, Brian Haberman wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Just a question on this draft... Given its status as clarifying (and > updating) RFC 5884, does it also inherit any of the IPR claims levied > against RFC 5884? > All existing IPR stands. No new IPR is introduced. -- Jeff From nobody Wed Oct 14 07:53:16 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA461A02B1; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:53:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l3IQ3TqqMGl0; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 901941A8A46; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach-high.fuaim.com [206.197.161.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75494880F5; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clemson.jhuapl.edu (swifi-nat.jhuapl.edu [128.244.87.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1970328081A; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Brian Haberman's No Objection on draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-03: (with COMMENT) To: Jeffrey Haas References: <20151014143827.30440.78575.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <20151014144523.GA28921@pfrc.org> From: Brian Haberman Message-ID: <561E6C57.5010709@innovationslab.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:53:11 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151014144523.GA28921@pfrc.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aMsriIO900Ic0SWdV7iiGlas2rPPP0TFd" Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications@ietf.org, The IESG , bfd-chairs@ietf.org, rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:53:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --aMsriIO900Ic0SWdV7iiGlas2rPPP0TFd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jeff, Thanks for the speedy response... On 10/14/15 10:45 AM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 07:38:27AM -0700, Brian Haberman wrote: >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= >> COMMENT: >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= >> >> Just a question on this draft... Given its status as clarifying (and >> updating) RFC 5884, does it also inherit any of the IPR claims levied >> against RFC 5884? >> >=20 > All existing IPR stands. No new IPR is introduced. Maybe my parser is broken, but does this mean: 1. None of the IPR disclosures filed against 5884 apply to this draft 2. All/some of the IPR disclosures filed against 5884 apply, but disclosures have not (will not?) be filed against this draft? Regards, Brian --aMsriIO900Ic0SWdV7iiGlas2rPPP0TFd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWHmxXAAoJEBOZRqCi7goqLiYIANLgY6ZSdeazFn8uNyETLW2G wO8DAeuX643XYHO90QRDSOdPa153uAfmNPQ8cE3h18izlyZRyMqiL+oewrjsja8q ylHWRnpDfkV+MR+5EAED9y9We+Nt9z5F5ovJYwwM6peZULgkkUQ+tzrCJrpLyqMI qqtEmxXvbBt788oGoBV2qLjLf41sdp737ZaKSs2059wx7GRyD3v3SwNJuClGfItR Y1L51wBs14aNt/D8XApVuUmsWml7sm6+iSYWGOiCwlYF70Y8F8bDPkTb4LwpyWyw ktk6eyPHRJBp3oZwKR021DBiw98xCdE9OrKS2Get3N6uKsuGNLlCEOm2GUA1hEI= =hESe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aMsriIO900Ic0SWdV7iiGlas2rPPP0TFd-- From nobody Wed Oct 14 08:13:01 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994161ABD3D; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:12:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iR4uBDdqgfPX; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6D51A1EF2; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 169D31E4E0; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:17:04 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Brian Haberman Subject: Re: Brian Haberman's No Objection on draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-03: (with COMMENT) Message-ID: <20151014151703.GC28921@pfrc.org> References: <20151014143827.30440.78575.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <20151014144523.GA28921@pfrc.org> <561E6C57.5010709@innovationslab.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <561E6C57.5010709@innovationslab.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications@ietf.org, The IESG , bfd-chairs@ietf.org, rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:12:57 -0000 On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:53:11AM -0400, Brian Haberman wrote: > On 10/14/15 10:45 AM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 07:38:27AM -0700, Brian Haberman wrote: > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> COMMENT: > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Just a question on this draft... Given its status as clarifying (and > >> updating) RFC 5884, does it also inherit any of the IPR claims levied > >> against RFC 5884? > >> > > > > All existing IPR stands. No new IPR is introduced. > > Maybe my parser is broken, but does this mean: > > 1. None of the IPR disclosures filed against 5884 apply to this draft > > 2. All/some of the IPR disclosures filed against 5884 apply, but > disclosures have not (will not?) be filed against this draft? Since this document only clarifies 5884, the IPR against 5884 is still applicable. The clarifications do not introduce any new IPR against the material covered in 5884. A bit more flippantly, just because we publish a clarification document with no additional IPR doesn't mean we think we're getting rid of the existing IPR considerations. :-) -- Jeff From nobody Wed Oct 14 08:16:40 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043531AC3C8 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:16:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.321 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.321 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tDACZ0PCVCUn for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1B31AC414 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5726B1E4E0; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:19:40 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: IETF 94 - initial agenda posted Message-ID: <20151014151940.GD28921@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:16:38 -0000 Working Group, A draft agenda has been posted to the datatracker for the upcoming session in Yokohama. We technically have 20 minutes still available and thus could accommodate potentially another presentation or extended presentation and discussion on the prior topics. However, I would like to recommend we avoid scheduling the session full since we'll be competing with another WG for the room and may have to shoo them out if they want to run over time. :-) -- Jeff and Nobo From nobody Wed Oct 14 08:17:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912B81AC3D5 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:17:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.178 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.178 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3QpKGJzREmfQ for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ED41AC414 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 916B81E4E1; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:20:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:20:48 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: Reminder, WGLC in progress Message-ID: <20151014152048.GE28921@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:17:53 -0000 I know it is not the traditional "read all the drafts the week before IETF", but this is a reminder that BFD Multipoint (and the active tail draft) as well as the BFD MPLS MIB document are in WGLC. Please comment on them! -- Jeff From nobody Wed Oct 14 08:26:43 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD181A916C; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:26:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ul6eKrEADtQj; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12B171A9007; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach-high.fuaim.com [206.197.161.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6843880F5; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clemson.jhuapl.edu (swifi-nat.jhuapl.edu [128.244.87.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3F2328081A; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Brian Haberman's No Objection on draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-03: (with COMMENT) To: Jeffrey Haas References: <20151014143827.30440.78575.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <20151014144523.GA28921@pfrc.org> <561E6C57.5010709@innovationslab.net> <20151014151703.GC28921@pfrc.org> From: Brian Haberman Message-ID: <561E7427.5050307@innovationslab.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:26:31 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151014151703.GC28921@pfrc.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Uk7WibpX8MaopvkWjM1KtRoOMwTWAsCe9" Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications@ietf.org, The IESG , bfd-chairs@ietf.org, rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:26:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Uk7WibpX8MaopvkWjM1KtRoOMwTWAsCe9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/14/15 11:17 AM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:53:11AM -0400, Brian Haberman wrote: >> On 10/14/15 10:45 AM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 07:38:27AM -0700, Brian Haberman wrote: >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------= -- >>>> COMMENT: >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------= -- >>>> >>>> Just a question on this draft... Given its status as clarifying (and= >>>> updating) RFC 5884, does it also inherit any of the IPR claims levie= d >>>> against RFC 5884? >>>> >>> >>> All existing IPR stands. No new IPR is introduced. >> >> Maybe my parser is broken, but does this mean: >> >> 1. None of the IPR disclosures filed against 5884 apply to this draft >> >> 2. All/some of the IPR disclosures filed against 5884 apply, but >> disclosures have not (will not?) be filed against this draft? >=20 > Since this document only clarifies 5884, the IPR against 5884 is still > applicable. The clarifications do not introduce any new IPR against th= e > material covered in 5884. I wasn't expecting new IPR, I was wondering if any of the old IPR may have gone away. I know, wishful thinking. >=20 > A bit more flippantly, just because we publish a clarification document= with > no additional IPR doesn't mean we think we're getting rid of the existi= ng > IPR considerations. :-) I have seen it happen before though and was wondering. Thanks for the quick follow-up! Brian --Uk7WibpX8MaopvkWjM1KtRoOMwTWAsCe9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWHnQsAAoJEBOZRqCi7goq61AH/3Kr4L2/+ltHPU/3w+SIQV6L VpJWaDMp3R3bOAMYsDmLojrj6IAJU6LVjjdc3m7fAJRnI3KJZ3mBV1JZ19Rvoe4b JBSqombZasvUy9qnK9gjlD53sRY8Wx5uCVyQJ2bJ2nugtjv/qWhUMEemgC87v2qs tUdou01oDiPbakMT/mSwuOShABmQA2G6CIMjKHRXCNSr0pfNXgV68WJBn1+rz91r g9mhA6oCSGW1fLzcfhcDS+Tyzauv1mW08cbWMy778beR5gIjqozWLk1x+Q1VjauK X4bSQmLMB6LMYDwL7bcjmWYdHwUoPqSKkCJoohVxdZNFjFrMsbWiinrnelqPJ5E= =KOv2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Uk7WibpX8MaopvkWjM1KtRoOMwTWAsCe9-- From nobody Wed Oct 14 21:20:33 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CFB1B300A; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:20:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aDWmnZP6Z9Xm; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7749C1B300D; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:20:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-04.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.6.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151015042025.27442.45131.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:20:25 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:20:30 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection Working Group of the IETF. Title : Clarifications to RFC 5884 Authors : Vengada Prasad Govindan Kalyani Rajaraman Gregory Mirsky Nobo Akiya Sam Aldrin Filename : draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-04.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2015-10-14 Abstract: This document clarifies the procedures for establishing, maintaining and removing multiple, concurrent BFD (Bidirectional Forwarding Detection) sessions for a given described in RFC5884. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Oct 18 11:58:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5542C1ACDF0 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 11:58:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e5__o8Qwe36b for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 11:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0126.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.126]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B79AE1ACD1E for ; 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Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" Subject: Protocol Action: 'Clarifications to RFC 5884' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-04.txt) X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.6.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151019181724.11158.99337.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:17:24 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications@ietf.org, The IESG , rtg-bfd@ietf.org, bfd-chairs@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:17:24 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Clarifications to RFC 5884' (draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-04.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications/ Technical Summary This document clarifies the procedures for establishing, maintaining and removing multiple, concurrent BFD sessions for a given described in RFC5884. Working Group Summary This document received good discussion among key contributors in the BFD Working Group. Nothing controversial was discussed, the clarifications are considered sound practice. Document Quality RFC 5884 is implemented by a number of vendors that support MPLS and BFD to verify those MPLS LSPs. This clarifications document was motivated by some ambiguities in that RFC which were noted as implementors were attempting to implement some of the edge cases. Implementations are expected to pick up the changes in this document soon if they are not otherwise implemented already. This document does not impact backward compatibility. Personnel Document Shepherd: Jeffrey Haas, co-chair BFD. Responsible Area Director: Alvaro Retana. From nobody Mon Oct 19 12:11:46 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8AE1B2C19 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:11:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KDAuahGN7ZWZ for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4281B2BFD for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 63DB91E4E1; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:15:52 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: [i.goyret@alcatel-lucent.com: WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator] Message-ID: <20151019191552.GC15569@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:11:38 -0000 FYI: ----- Forwarded message from Ignacio Goyret ----- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 09:39:28 -0700 From: Ignacio Goyret To: l2tpext@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator@tools.ietf.org, bfd-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator Hi group, This email starts a two-week Working-Group Last-Call (WGLC) for draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-00 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/ Please send comments to the list and state whether or not you support progressing this document (in the later case, please also state the reasons). Silence is not indication of support. This poll runs until ** November 3rd, 2015 **. We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). * If you are listed as a document author or contributor *, please respond only if you are aware of any changes to IPR from your response during the poll for adoption, at http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l2tpext/current/msg01389.html If you are *not* listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. 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Nobo, we all look forward to your continu= ed contributions to BFD and the IETF! In consultation with Jeff and the other ADs, we have decided to ask Reshad = Rahman to take on the role of BFD Co-Chair. We expect the transition to be= complete by the meeting next week in Yokohama. Welcome Reshad! Reshad can be reached at rrahman@cisco.com. Thanks! Alvaro. --_000_D2539D3FE54EBaretanaciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <33607E7A3E33B842A46B1357BF4067EB@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
BFD WG:

Unfortunately Nobo Akiya has decided not to continue as BFD Co-Chair d= ue to the demands of his current job.  Nobo, we all look forward to yo= ur continued contributions to BFD and the IETF!

In consultation with Jeff and the other ADs, we have decided to ask&nb= sp;Reshad Rahman to take on the role of BFD Co-Chair.  We expect the t= ransition to be complete by the meeting next week in Yokohama.  Welcom= e Reshad!

Reshad can be reached at rra= hman@cisco.com.

Thanks!

Alvaro.
--_000_D2539D3FE54EBaretanaciscocom_-- From nobody Tue Oct 27 20:49:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901111B4463 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:49:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yjQhNNgVMg4t for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x22e.google.com (mail-lb0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB59A1B445C for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbec13 with SMTP id ec13so76257185lbb.0 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:49:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5PiHAEAs6XaWO99bHY8SHfNPHbAXSJQkIfTUY8tg+3Y=; b=bsRi42CjA4Jcna6pCkJGaLnZZZ7G4n5qC1E9T32seno+usrvlcUAqYGu9AxSptT53s PYBR0kwAvbD+S7YJeKcZWFWKwJcyqA0yGISJIE7+z6TrhhaEEuJ8Q0EfAXgQQAEcNmSY Rz9rnwT/Y5759O+LLkilyMhjQBpgdWbkY59YmJ+nGU435v7MtvNzIbRfFmDzSktzA/aj nBlEGCRp2fqC1fXkbHSboa78Sj0rg++QOcLOCvX34ZVGnyFBo1IuPs2InHVZDGG6poJN 9qVVljSUMH8bmdCAjQBZMwatTFXu11K84mQTadFT8RiNE8TRieUDxJCEbXlrxpsu7w3S IgLw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.13.199 with SMTP id j7mr7965123lbc.87.1446004188899; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.164.104 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:49:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:49:48 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New BFD Co-Chair From: Nobo Akiya To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3cb9e05f166052322168c Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 03:49:52 -0000 --001a11c3cb9e05f166052322168c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Alvaro, thank you for handling this transition and making the announcement. Hello BFDers, It has been my honor to work with so many smart & creative folks in this WG. However, I have decided that I need to continue my focus in different areas with my new journey. I will miss many of you guys, and best wishes to Reshad and all the folks in this WG. Best Regards, Nobo w/ no hat On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Alvaro Retana (aretana) wrote: > BFD WG: > > Unfortunately Nobo Akiya has decided not to continue as BFD Co-Chair due > to the demands of his current job. Nobo, we all look forward to your > continued contributions to BFD and the IETF! > > In consultation with Jeff and the other ADs, we have decided to ask Reshad > Rahman to take on the role of BFD Co-Chair. We expect the transition to be > complete by the meeting next week in Yokohama. Welcome Reshad! > > Reshad can be reached at rrahman@cisco.com. > > Thanks! > > Alvaro. > --001a11c3cb9e05f166052322168c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alvaro, thank you for handling this transition and ma= king the announcement.

Hello BFDers,

It has been my honor to work with so many smart & creative folks in th= is WG. However, I have decided that I need to continue my focus in differen= t areas with my new journey. I will miss many of you guys, and best wishes = to Reshad and all the folks in this WG.

Best Regar= ds,
Nobo w/ no hat

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Alvaro Retana (are= tana) <aretana@cisco.com> wrote:
BFD WG:

Unfortunately Nobo Akiya has decided not to continue as BFD Co-Chair d= ue to the demands of his current job.=C2=A0 Nobo, we all look forward to yo= ur continued contributions to BFD and the IETF!

In consultation with Jeff and the other ADs, we have decided to ask=C2= =A0Reshad Rahman to take on the role of BFD Co-Chair.=C2=A0 We expect the t= ransition to be complete by the meeting next week in Yokohama.=C2=A0 Welcom= e Reshad!

Reshad can be reached at=C2=A0rrahman@cisco.com.

Thanks!

Alvaro.

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[127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EEC1B2EF7 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:24:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.321 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.321 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yjsS577Ai1g7 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D371B2EF6 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 486C81E50B; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:24:27 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Nobo Akiya Subject: Re: New BFD Co-Chair Message-ID: <20151029142427.GA12856@pfrc.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:24:23 -0000 Nobo, On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:49:48PM +0900, Nobo Akiya wrote: > Hello BFDers, > > It has been my honor to work with so many smart & creative folks in this > WG. However, I have decided that I need to continue my focus in different > areas with my new journey. I will miss many of you guys, and best wishes to > Reshad and all the folks in this WG. Thanks for all of the work you did, both as chair and as a contributor. The one thing my experience has taught me over the years is that it's a small planet and we're likely to see you again. :-) -- Jeff From nobody Thu Oct 29 07:38:03 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E941A88EB for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:38:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.178 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.178 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x8WACRBza3K2 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495941A88E6 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 80EB31E50B; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:38:09 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: IETF 94 - Yokohama Message-ID: <20151029143809.GC12856@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:38:01 -0000 Working Group, The current agenda is posted with no changes aside from noting that we have a new co-chair: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/94/agenda/bfd/ Presenters: You are responsible for getting me your slides in .ppt or .pdf format no later than Monday afternoon. Ideally we'd like to see them Sunday. We will already be competing for the room with the spring working group and a melee to claim our full time slot is not out of the question. Let's not add last-minute slide wrangling to this. :-) This is also a reminder that we have two ongoing Working Group Last Calls: - BFD multipoint and active-tails document. - BFD MPLS MIB. While I can believe that that MIB has low support (it's a MIB!), I find it difficult to believe that the WG doesn't want to progress BFD multipoint. Does this document have no support? If you do support it, please indicate so to the mailing list. -- Jeff From nobody Thu Oct 29 12:02:10 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D1C1A8A07 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:02:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id afXOUAIKIXyB for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82C41A8A0D for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 267CF1E50B; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:02:04 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: BFD Yang and LIME Message-ID: <20151029190204.GE12856@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:02:08 -0000 If you have interest in BFD Yang, please note that there is a discussion on it that will be happening in context of the LIME meeting. This is happening 15:20-16:50, Monday Afternoon session II. -- Jeff ----- https://tools.ietf.org/wg/lime/agenda?item=agenda-94-lime.html Agenda : version 1.2 * Administriva * Charter: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/lime/charter/ * Mailing List: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime * Scribe: ? * Jabber scribe: ? * WG Status, Scope, Goals * Duration: 15 * LIME YANG Model * Doc: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam * Presenter: Qin Wu, Deepak Kumar * Duration: 15+5 * LIME Applicability Document * Doc: draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-applicability * Presenter: Zhuangyan (Yan) * Duration: 15+5 * BFD Applicability * Doc: draft-ietf-bfd-yang * Presenter: Reshad Rahman * Duration: 15+5 * Layer Transcending Traceroute * Doc: draft-nordmark-nvo3-transcending-traceroute * Presenter: Erik Nordmark * Duration: 15 * Next Steps * Deliverables * Actions * Wrap * Duration: 5 From nobody Thu Oct 29 20:25:51 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD3E1B35A6 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:25:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F2jqfrI4f-XI for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yk0-x229.google.com (mail-yk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 529641B35A5 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ykba4 with SMTP id a4so63566143ykb.3 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:25:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YVfkEDcqh41ZwjVzX3vN+qnfBejtzi6LLeF5pIOt834=; b=D5pcg8XlvxBKNcHVZzKNkOjQ3/9j8PJN4tSmDjAyIHWa33Vx89IbzXc8wi/6I+43bM 2I6csQNe3F4gup3kQgNEZb1S56T16zdU2Z9fOJeGhs+z1N79VVSvDUTDyW2YNq/kZ6w6 RKwdxWcSIAjjj6IBmKQtE5hkBG+KiLlOrQmKewzkqU/O0f2BFCcY2a9zpiL65+GtcagG LSUKz+HoPpgJvC5dsK8s5uYgviu7y6kZilRYJ9HS2f13Y34mk9Ib29aXO8CGkvXwgAQI heQuNPQ6aNGsELlOG4s4iAyMCyPhBvO4h9u+8nhLIacNZAwkjSgByg5ZpNqSQQDAUK9U Ivuw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.221.136 with SMTP id g130mr4434557ywe.6.1446175547481; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.129.114.4 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:25:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:55:47 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New BFD Co-Chair From: Manav Bhatia To: Nobo Akiya Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0614c4ca6687052349fb38 Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 03:25:50 -0000 --94eb2c0614c4ca6687052349fb38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Nobo, > It has been my honor to work with so many smart & creative folks in this > WG. However, I have decided that I need to continue my focus in different > areas with my new journey. I will miss many of you guys, and best wishes to > Reshad and all the folks in this WG. > > > It was wonderful working with you. Wish you the best in whatever you are getting yourself into ! :-) As Jeff says, its likely that our paths will cross again. Looking forward to that. Cheers, Manav --94eb2c0614c4ca6687052349fb38 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Nobo,


It has been my honor to work with so many smart & crea= tive folks in this WG. However, I have decided that I need to continue my f= ocus in different areas with my new journey. I will miss many of you guys, = and best wishes to Reshad and all the folks in this WG.



It was wonderful wor= king with you. Wish you the best in whatever you are getting yourself into = ! :-)

As Jeff says, its likely that our paths will= cross again. Looking forward to that.

Cheers, Man= av
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