On 2/5/16, 11:00 AM, "OSPF on behalf of Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)&q= uot; <ospf-bounces@ietf.org= on behalf of ginsberg@cisco.com> wrote:

Les:

Hi!

There is no discussion ongoing nor any action item for the= authors that I am aware of.

I believe this state exists because we were waiting for di= scussion on the S-BFD base draft to be resolved.

If ADs require any additional updates they need to tell us= – otherwise I think this draft should move forward as is.=

As you well know, what is holding the ISIS draft is not work required = from you (the authors of that document) -- at least not to clear the DISCUS= S.

I am waiting for the BFD WG chairs to call consensus on the discussion= related to the mapping, and on the authors of the ba= se S-BFD document to provide an update reflecting that decision. It m= ay have not been clear to everyone what needed to happen as a result of the= DISCUSS — I sent reminders to the chairs/authors a few minutes ago.

Thanks for not letting us forget about making progress..

Alvaro.

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Support adoption of the draft, after going through the same.

Thanks

Srihari

From: Rtg-bfd <rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of &q= uot;Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@= gmail.com>
Date: Monday, 8 February 2016 8:46 = pm
To: "pals@ietf.org" <pals@i= etf.org>
Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>
Subject: PALS Working Group Last Ca= ll for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01

This is the PALS Working= Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-= 01. You can find the draft at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-s= eamless-vccv-01

Because of the subject matter, this WG LC has= been copied to the BFD WG list as well. Please, submit comments to the PAL= S list only.

This last <= span class=3D"">call will run for two weeks, ending on February= 22.

We would appreciate even just responses that = you've read the draft and support publication, even if you don't have any s= pecific comments. Of course, more extensive comments are invited. especiall= y from BFD and/or VCCV experts.

Thanks,

Andy and Stewart

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rtg-bfd@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:06:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_84C1ED8F-EF66-44D0-A6F1-7927C17CA251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear WG, I=E2=80=99m looking for some help regarding the BFD influence to ARP. = The question is - Is it wise from an operational perspective or, on the = other hand, wrong if a failed BFD check that monitors IPv4 reachability = (for a static route, for example), makes changes in the ARP table, for = example, by removing the ARP entry for a BFD-failed IPv4 address? 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_2500F888-52C0-4408-B088-0859CD8C7A6E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.6b2 From: Matjaz Straus Istenic In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:38:11 +0100 Message-Id: <5BDDE1AE-DF77-4514-A33B-998508796FC3@njetwork.si> References: <476C2412-E4D6-4CB6-BC27-E5C384561DE7@njetwork.si> To: Alexander Vainshtein X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 13:38:21 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2500F888-52C0-4408-B088-0859CD8C7A6E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BE42BE3F-BAFC-4068-827A-80D593DC5F22" --Apple-Mail=_BE42BE3F-BAFC-4068-827A-80D593DC5F22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This is very helpful, thank you :-). You assumption on the scenario in = question is perfectly right, I was referring to a statically configured = route for which the next-hop is being monitored by a single hop BFD. Apart from the scenario you are describing in 4c I find no benefit of = =E2=80=9Cmessing" with ARP. Moreover, other complications might evolve = from such an (I would say - dirty) =E2=80=9Cenhancement=E2=80=9D. For = example, what happens if static ARP entry is configured. Will we remove = it as well? Thanks again, best regards, Matja=C5=BE > On 9. feb. 2016, at 14:05, Alexander Vainshtein = wrote: >=20 > Matiaz hi! > I assume that the context for your question is the following scenario: > 1. A static route with a directly connected Next Hop has been = configured on your system > 2. The Next Hop IP address has been successfully resolved to MAC = address > 3. A 1-hop BFD session is set up and used to monitor liveness of = the Next Hop. > a. When the session fails, the static route is declared inactive > b. However, the entry in the ARP cache (that is subject to its = own aging process) remains valid for some time. > 4. What happens when connectivity to the Next Hop is restored? = =46rom my POV there are three possible situations: > a. The connectivity has originally failed because the interface = (in the adjacent router) carrying the Next Hop IP address has failed. In = this case: > i. = When the connectivity is restored, MAC address of this interface may = change (e.g., if the NIC supporting this interface has been replaced) > ii. = However, in this case I would expect the interface to issue a gratuitous = ARP request for its own IP address using the new MAC address. As per RFC = 826, upon receiving this ARP request your system should update its ARP = cache entry for the Next Hop IP address with the new MAC address, so = that your BFD session could continue using the updated ARP cache entry > b. The connectivity has failed for some other reason (your = interface has failed, or some intermediate switch has failed etc.) In = this case there is no reason for the MAC address to which the Next Hop = IP address has been resolved to change, so your BFD session can safely = continue using the old ARP cache entry > c. There also a possible combination of cases (a) and (b) above = that could result in your system not receiving the gratuitous ARP = request issued by the adjacent system. In this case you would have to = wait until your ARP entry would be removed by aging until your BFD = session comes up. This seems to be the only scenario when removing the = ARP cache entry based on the BFD session failure would help, but = combination scenarios are rare enough to justify such enhancements IMHO. >=20 > Hopefully this helps. >=20 > Regards, > Sasha >=20 > Office: +972-39266302 > Cell: +972-549266302 > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com = >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Rtg-bfd [mailto:rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Matjaz = Straus Istenic > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 2:07 PM > To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org > Subject: BFD for IPv4 next-hop and ARP >=20 > Dear WG, >=20 > I=E2=80=99m looking for some help regarding the BFD influence to ARP. = The question is - Is it wise from an operational perspective or, on the = other hand, wrong if a failed BFD check that monitors IPv4 reachability = (for a static route, for example), makes changes in the ARP table, for = example, by removing the ARP entry for a BFD-failed IPv4 address? >=20 > In my humble opinion, BFD should not influence ARP in any way, = =E2=80=98cause this might be a recipe for disaster in case of BFD code = malfunction or configuration error. I would appreciate your feedback on = this. >=20 > Kind regards, > Matja=C5=BE --Apple-Mail=_BE42BE3F-BAFC-4068-827A-80D593DC5F22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

This is very helpful, thank you :-). You assumption on = the scenario in question is perfectly right, I was referring to a = statically configured route for which the next-hop is being monitored by = a single hop BFD.

Apart from the = scenario you are describing in 4c I find no benefit of =E2=80=9Cmessing" = with ARP. Moreover, other complications might evolve from such an (I = would say - dirty) =E2=80=9Cenhancement=E2=80=9D. For example, what = happens if static ARP entry is configured. Will we remove it as = well?

Thanks again,

best = regards,

= Matja=C5=BE

On 9. feb. 2016, at 14:05, = Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote:

Matiaz hi!
I assume = that the context for your question is the following scenario:
1.       A static route with a directly connected = Next Hop has been configured on your system
2.       The Next Hop IP address has been = successfully resolved to MAC address
3.       A 1-hop BFD session is set up and used to = monitor liveness of the Next Hop.
a.       When the session fails, the static route = is declared inactive
b.      However, the entry in the ARP cache = (that is subject to its own aging process) remains valid for some = time.
4.       What happens when connectivity to the Next = Hop is restored? =46rom my POV there are three possible situations:
a.       The connectivity has originally failed = because the interface (in the adjacent router) carrying the Next Hop = IP address has failed. In this case:
          &nb= sp;            = ;            &= nbsp;           &nb= sp;            = ;   i.      When the connectivity is restored, MAC = address of this interface may change (e.g., if the NIC supporting this = interface has been replaced)
          &nb= sp;            = ;            &= nbsp;           &nb= sp;            = ; ii.      However, in this case I would expect the = interface to issue a gratuitous ARP request for its own IP address using = the new MAC address. As per RFC 826, upon = receiving this ARP request your system should update its ARP cache entry = for the Next Hop IP address with the new MAC address, so that your = BFD session could continue using the updated ARP cache entry
b.      The connectivity has failed for some other = reason (your interface has failed, or some intermediate switch has = failed etc.) In this case there is no reason for the MAC address to = which the Next Hop IP address has been resolved to change, so your BFD = session can safely continue using the old ARP cache entry
c.       There also a possible combination = of cases (a) and (b) above that could result in your = system not receiving the gratuitous ARP request issued by the adjacent = system. In this case you would have to wait until your ARP entry would = be removed by aging until your BFD session comes up. This seems to be = the only scenario when removing the ARP cache entry based on the BFD = session failure would help, but combination scenarios are rare enough to = justify such enhancements IMHO.

Hopefully this = helps.

Regards,
Sasha

Office: +972-39266302
Cell:      = +972-549266302
Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Rtg-bfd [mailto:rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Matjaz = Straus Istenic
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 2:07 PM
To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org
Subject: BFD for IPv4 = next-hop and ARP

Dear = WG,

I=E2=80=99m= looking for some help regarding the BFD influence to ARP. The question = is - Is it wise from an operational perspective or, on the other hand, = wrong if a failed BFD check that monitors IPv4 reachability (for a = static route, for example), makes changes in the ARP table, for example, = by removing the ARP entry for a BFD-failed IPv4 address?

In my = humble opinion, BFD should not influence ARP in any way, =E2=80=98cause = this might be a recipe for disaster in case of BFD code malfunction or = configuration error. I would appreciate your feedback on this.

Kind = regards,
          &nb= sp;     = Matja=C5=BE

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This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of the IETF. Title : Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) Authors : Nobo Akiya Carlos Pignataro Dave Ward Manav Bhatia Santosh Pallagatti Filename : draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-06.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2016-02-09 Abstract: This document defines a simplified mechanism to use Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) with large portions of negotiation aspects eliminated, thus providing benefits such as quick provisioning as well as improved control and flexibility to network nodes initiating the path monitoring. This document updates RFC5880. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Feb 10 07:22:58 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F121B1B2BD2; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 07:22:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-07.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160210152255.8545.49307.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 07:22:55 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:22:56 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of the IETF. Title : Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) Authors : Nobo Akiya Carlos Pignataro Dave Ward Manav Bhatia Santosh Pallagatti Filename : draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-07.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2016-02-10 Abstract: This document defines a simplified mechanism to use Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) with large portions of negotiation aspects eliminated, thus providing benefits such as quick provisioning as well as improved control and flexibility to network nodes initiating the path monitoring. This document updates RFC5880. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Feb 11 23:01:02 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9101B4071; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 23:01:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9bTyTaQTosAv; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 23:00:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from door.sniff.de (door.sniff.de [IPv6:2001:6f8:94f:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9408E1B4066; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 23:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.sniff.de [127.0.0.1]) by door.sniff.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD8C2AA0F; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:00:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 23:00:52 -0800 From: Marc Binderberger To: Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) , Manav Bhatia Message-ID: <20160211230052162644.a737fd36@sniff.de> In-Reply-To: <9546A9BD-488A-4A66-B641-9819FD327E7E@cisco.com> References: <20151214000245520882.14fa350b@sniff.de> <20151219013323973354.b44d7a1b@sniff.de>

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<20151223203510463926.94eddf06@sniff.de> <9546A9BD-488A-4A66-B641-9819FD327E7E@cisco.com> Subject: Re: AD Review of draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GyazMail version 1.5.17 Archived-At: Cc: "Les Ginsberg \(ginsberg\)" , "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base@ietf.org" , "bfd-chairs@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:01:00 -0000 Hello everyone (and happy new year :-) I see draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base has been updated and in section 3 it does not say anymore that IS-IS is allocation a discriminator; instead it says the S-BFD module allocates. It also explicitly discourages the allocation of multiple discriminators because the meaning is (yet) undetermined. Which restricts it for now to one discriminator but keeps it open for the future to be multiple discriminators. I think this looks good. Do we need another discussion or do we declare victory, erm, agreement and close this point? :-) Best regards, Marc P.S.: and a nitpick: Section 3: the "toby" should be just "by" "[...] discriminator allocated toby a remote node to remote [...]" On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:34:53 +0000, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) wrote: > Thanks Manav! > > Thumb typed by Carlos Pignataro. > Excuze typofraphicak errows > > On Dec 23, 2015, at 23:44, Manav Bhatia wrote: > >>>> 1. Remove the multiple sessions terminating on the same target example >>> from >>>> the use-case document. >>>> 2. Change the base s-bfd draft to only advertise 1 discriminator >>>> 3. Leave the IGP drafts as is. >>> >>> >>> as we have to do point (2) in any case, if the IGP drafts are changed or >>> remain, I would think this is the most efficient way to get out of the >>> troubles. >> >> Great. Will do that. >> >>> >>> Makes a nice test case: send multiple S-BFD discriminators in the subtlv >>> and >>> see how the test unit behaves ;-) >>> >>> >>>> And i was convinced by some folks working for the same vendor to >>> include the >>>> possibility of supporting multiple discriminators per node since the >>>> line cards can keep conking off ! ;-) >>> >>> well, they can ;-) but the way it is implemented right now I think we can >>> solve the problem without a 2nd discriminator. >> >> Wow. Some serious architectural changes have gone in since then and now, >> eh? ;-) >> >> Cheers, Manav >> From nobody Tue Feb 16 12:26:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F4D1B2CDB; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:26:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.908 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.908 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XSh5Abo_Yrk5; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CE1A1B2CA5; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id C61B5180013; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:26:08 -0800 (PST) To: bestman0729@sina.com, dkatz@juniper.net, dward@juniper.net Subject: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5880 (4410) X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20160216202608.C61B5180013@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:26:08 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:26:20 -0000 The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC5880, "Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5880&eid=4410 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: Liu Lin Date Reported: 2015-07-07 Held by: Alvaro Retana (IESG) Section: 6.8.4 Original Text ------------- If Demand mode is active, and a period of time equal to the Detection Time passes after the initiation of a Poll Sequence (the transmission of the first BFD Control packet with the Poll bit set), the session has gone down Corrected Text -------------- If Demand mode is active, and a period of time equal to the Detection Time passes after the initiation of a Poll Sequence (the transmission of the first BFD Control packet with the Poll bit set),and without receiving a BFD Control packet with the Final (F) bit set from the remote system, the session has gone down Notes ----- If has received BFD Control packet with the Final (F) bit set from the remote system, the session will not gone down -------------------------------------- RFC5880 (draft-ietf-bfd-base-11) -------------------------------------- Title : Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Publication Date : June 2010 Author(s) : D. Katz, D. Ward Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Bidirectional Forwarding Detection Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Tue Feb 16 12:56:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621AF1B3181; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:56:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c1gyFAS3plpW; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:56:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0755C1B313C; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:56:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 694BE1E525; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:59:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:59:25 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: RFC Errata System Subject: Re: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5880 (4410) Message-ID: <20160216205925.GA20964@pfrc.org> References: <20160216202608.C61B5180013@rfc-editor.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160216202608.C61B5180013@rfc-editor.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: bestman0729@sina.com, rtg-bfd@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, dkatz@juniper.net, dward@juniper.net X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:56:32 -0000 I do not believe the errata in question is necessary. Section 6.8.4 covers the calculation of the detection interval. After the start of a poll, the remote system may take some time to respond to the poll and set the Final bit. During that time, it is permissable to send Async packets following the packet reception rules - including authentication - without setting the Final bit. The text recommended by this proposed errata constrains this time to the completion of a Poll within the originally negotiated detection interval. While this may happen, it is not required. -- Jeff (speaking as an individual contributor) On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 12:26:08PM -0800, RFC Errata System wrote: > The following errata report has been held for document update > for RFC5880, "Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5880&eid=4410 > > -------------------------------------- > Status: Held for Document Update > Type: Editorial > > Reported by: Liu Lin > Date Reported: 2015-07-07 > Held by: Alvaro Retana (IESG) > > Section: 6.8.4 > > Original Text > ------------- > If Demand mode is active, and a period of time equal to the Detection > Time passes after the initiation of a Poll Sequence (the transmission > of the first BFD Control packet with the Poll bit set), the session > has gone down > > Corrected Text > -------------- > If Demand mode is active, and a period of time equal to the Detection > Time passes after the initiation of a Poll Sequence (the transmission > of the first BFD Control packet with the Poll bit set),and without > receiving a BFD Control packet with the Final (F) bit set from the > remote system, the session has gone down > > Notes > ----- > If has received BFD Control packet with the Final (F) bit set from the > remote system, the session will not gone down > > -------------------------------------- > RFC5880 (draft-ietf-bfd-base-11) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) > Publication Date : June 2010 > Author(s) : D. Katz, D. Ward > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Bidirectional Forwarding Detection > Area : Routing > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Wed Feb 17 14:49:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35401B30A1; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:49:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-01.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160217224911.13704.10158.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:49:11 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:49:12 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of the IETF. Title : Optimizing BFD Authentication Authors : Mahesh Jethanandani Ashesh Mishra Ankur Saxena Manav Bhatia Filename : draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-01.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2016-02-17 Abstract: This document describes an optimization to BFD Authentication as described in Section 6.7 of BFD [RFC5880]. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Feb 17 14:59:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8631B3086; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:59:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_66=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id suPSWMvObmFd; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from BAY004-OMC2S20.hotmail.com (bay004-omc2s20.hotmail.com [65.54.190.95]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30C731B305D; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from BAY176-W41 ([65.54.190.125]) by BAY004-OMC2S20.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:58:51 -0800 X-TMN: [YFtISWnRwQooV56mzq9zT4ZzKabrx8uB] X-Originating-Email: [mishra.ashesh@outlook.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_628c16c4-a37a-4ace-845d-1657182dbbc7_" From: Ashesh Mishra To: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" , "i-d-announce@ietf.org" Subject: RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-01.txt Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:58:51 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20160217224911.13704.10158.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20160217224911.13704.10158.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Feb 2016 22:58:51.0966 (UTC) FILETIME=[C502ADE0:01D169D6] Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:59:04 -0000 --_628c16c4-a37a-4ace-845d-1657182dbbc7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This version contains the following changes from v00:Added "Optimized Authe= ntication Map" in section 2 to describe when BFD packets require authentica= tion.Updated "NULL Auth TLV" in section 3 to align the header with MD5 and = SHA1 auth as described in RFC5880. Added comment on sequence number managem= ent. It now=2C in essence=2C follows the same method as the one used for au= th in RFC5880. Changes to make the language clearer.=20 Thanks=2CAshesh > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-01.txt > Date: Wed=2C 17 Feb 2016 14:49:11 -0800 > CC: rtg-bfd@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of th= e IETF. >=20 > Title : Optimizing BFD Authentication > Authors : Mahesh Jethanandani > Ashesh Mishra > Ankur Saxena > Manav Bhatia=20 > Filename : draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-01.txt > Pages : 8 > Date : 2016-02-17 >=20 > Abstract: > This document describes an optimization to BFD Authentication as > described in Section 6.7 of BFD [RFC5880]. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication= / >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication-01 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authenticat= ion-01 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 = --_628c16c4-a37a-4ace-845d-1657182dbbc7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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= --_628c16c4-a37a-4ace-845d-1657182dbbc7_-- From nobody Fri Feb 19 06:43:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049421B30A1; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 06:43:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-yang-01.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160219144345.27967.25811.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 06:43:45 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 14:43:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of the IETF. Title : Yang Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Authors : Lianshu Zheng Reshad Rahman Santosh Pallagatti Mahesh Jethanandani Greg Mirsky Filename : draft-ietf-bfd-yang-01.txt Pages : 50 Date : 2016-02-19 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure and manage Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-yang/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-yang-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfd-yang-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Feb 22 15:13:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C7B1B2AFC; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:13:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-ip-03.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160222231306.28155.16644.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:13:06 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 23:13:06 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of the IETF. Title : Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) for IPv4, IPv6 and MPLS Authors : Nobo Akiya Carlos Pignataro Dave Ward Filename : draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-ip-03.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2016-02-22 Abstract: This document defines procedures to use Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) for IPv4, IPv6 and MPLS environments. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-ip/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-ip-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-ip-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Feb 22 16:13:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CE01B33A0; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:13:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.739 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.739 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_OBFUSCATE_05_10=0.26, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uloSIfwjW7-0; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-x22b.google.com (mail-ob0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 506DE1B3391; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ob0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id jq7so181433600obb.0; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:13:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=t5jsOp5hXyIin1ksFbgtpPrBKsCjZ65cFiYxD0eamMQ=; b=nElA60zkAXbtxfLMD9c2aW0QV3fOF7KkIQquKBdEfZoM7uh+IEJ6OAwt21mWBEpwIE e00fD5ksf8jA/LDRDy5LeqPje3T9s6+0stEA6QQ9ysumfTfDxMRLo3PBSdmvbVXfPSQe IoxbqGXAalaqQQNQzi0Y/bHlaq0Qt65yLqjn4GbF+HBvOfmNzf+mBSYmeBK1RILH+FYF AQgouXwqI3nmg0lDzAAXoWHuNVGXiYkwXbNp9mGIb2qslsZAMhtK9IfWDgRlfKHnsyLZ hLbBPSvZ4NtBOADVaEVCiE36BMDW/H7fzYA35FgDbWoyciAvbB5NfWFl+uea5gUAKZFM HsbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=t5jsOp5hXyIin1ksFbgtpPrBKsCjZ65cFiYxD0eamMQ=; b=fLaqUvTdKP9u0os32O4YGUuWFeBPXmae3HkKTSnAE/yHxSZtd0Tkf2EzkEZRrwShDV kNw6yQ2g/xcmdpIOeita7YwZGr4E2G34UbSOwDsZXKrY1hNfnAQ3n7FzzBV3odkNS3it SKNaoMr3K97SMUp/13ElVwvKgarha5/N8MFKTa+VFIJ102ZqZpUVAtq7PxX1PiJLjYXq q4K9ZZkPmOFEj2Ms4CXY0bW7m8sWtck3KExPhhgPTU+sFc9cP1Ii+iw/qwToyRo16SOn g0u9h2zupwKLYAIFOtekQYh66b9XMjljF6sJ5uDmDkswuwvytkMbZSpD3vxeiJbSKVeV DRbA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQ+JON4vRnrDE11btvXr2daX6zVlb3C4aigJFuEIyA7g3TW8SlDDoxFmEskU+WquD2jpER9UnUzWz3E1g== X-Received: by 10.182.72.129 with SMTP id d1mr26748852obv.4.1456186382729; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:13:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.196.104 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:12:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 19:12:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01 To: "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2f2da11c9df052c64d0a9 Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:13:04 -0000 --001a11c2f2da11c9df052c64d0a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This ends the WG last call. Carlos, please upload a new revision to reflect received comments and clear out the TBDs. Thanks, Andy On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > This is the PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01. > You can find the draft at: > > *https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01 > * > > Because of the subject matter, this WG LC has been copied to the BFD WG > list as well. Please, submit comments to the PALS list only. > > This last call will run for two weeks, ending on February 22. > > We would appreciate even just responses that you've read the draft and > support publication, even if you don't have any specific comments. Of > course, more extensive comments are invited. especially from BFD and/or > VCCV experts. > > Thanks, > Andy and Stewart > > --001a11c2f2da11c9df052c64d0a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This ends the WG last call. Carlos, please upload a new re= vision to reflect received comments and clear out the TBDs.

<= div>Thanks,

Andy

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Andrew= G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:

This is the=C2= =A0PALS=C2=A0Working=C2=A0Group=C2=A0Last=C2=A0Call=C2=A0for=C2=A0draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01. You can find the draft at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01

Because of the subject matter, this WG LC has been copied to the BF= D WG list as well. Please, submit comments to the PALS list only.

This=C2= =A0last=C2=A0call=C2=A0will run for two weeks, en= ding on February 22.

We would appreciate even just responses that you'v= e read the draft and support publication, even if you don't have any sp= ecific comments. Of course, more extensive comments are invited. especially= from BFD and/or VCCV experts.

Thanks,
A= ndy and Stewart

--001a11c2f2da11c9df052c64d0a9-- From nobody Mon Feb 22 16:47:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99CA1ACD10; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:47:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Z-lW_jGW68b; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E9BF1B38CB; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:47:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=7710; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1456188442; x=1457398042; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=cMbkUP3QyKnqiQxth5YDxBH+4h3Rxm9vLD2O5NxQv24=; b=lHpd5w3G9iGzCGfHvtKbKKIDBqZPhVL4sbUrXH5M6rVoE3aoMJem+Ki8 9razwO4M2iyVSm/HKBtmNCz8bvLi1jEUAjYr1i0yf7nosjWdzFAel3zla YoqSYGOBSxUp8vnVlldJV2m4pgXepBuOn5xfmblJ0WJZR6cD1RewnL5oH Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0D3AQDnqstW/49dJa1egm5MUm0GhTezC?= =?us-ascii?q?oITAQ2BZiGEFYFXAoFFOBQBAQEBAQEBZCeEQQEBAQQdTg4QAgEIEQMBAigHIRE?= =?us-ascii?q?UCQgCBAENBYgGAxIOtXsNhEoBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQERBIYShDqCO?= =?us-ascii?q?oIbDYQNBY1ihRGEFAGFVoYUgXOBXIRDgyWFLYcFh0MBHgEBQoNkaoc8fQEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="5.22,487,1449532800"; d="scan'208,217"; a="73693036" Received: from rcdn-core-7.cisco.com ([173.37.93.143]) by rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 23 Feb 2016 00:47:21 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-016.cisco.com (xch-rcd-016.cisco.com [173.37.102.26]) by rcdn-core-7.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u1N0lLGf013984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:47:21 GMT Received: from xch-aln-020.cisco.com (173.36.7.30) by XCH-RCD-016.cisco.com (173.37.102.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:47:20 -0600 Received: from xch-aln-020.cisco.com ([173.36.7.30]) by XCH-ALN-020.cisco.com ([173.36.7.30]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:47:20 -0600 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: "Andrew G. Malis" , "pals@ietf.org" Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01 Thread-Topic: PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01 Thread-Index: AQHRbc78jZ2v8ouHTUWmTr7/qrKc0Z843KSA Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:47:20 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.6.1.160122 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.117.115.52] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D2F115EA38FBCcpignataciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:47:24 -0000 --_000_D2F115EA38FBCcpignataciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Andy! I just uploaded a new revision which should address all the comments receiv= ed and summarize all the discussion held. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-02 Thanks! - Carlos. From: Rtg-bfd > o= n behalf of "Andrew G. Malis" > Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at 7:12 PM To: "pals@ietf.org" > Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv= -01 This ends the WG last call. Carlos, please upload a new revision to reflect= received comments and clear out the TBDs. Thanks, Andy On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: This is the PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-= 01. You can find the draft at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01 Because of the subject matter, this WG LC has been copied to the BFD WG lis= t as well. Please, submit comments to the PALS list only. This last call will run for two weeks, ending on February 22. We would appreciate even just responses that you've read the draft and supp= ort publication, even if you don't have any specific comments. Of course, m= ore extensive comments are invited. especially from BFD and/or VCCV experts= . Thanks, Andy and Stewart --_000_D2F115EA38FBCcpignataciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks, Andy!

I just uploaded a new revision which should address all the comments r= eceived and summarize all the discussion held.

The IETF datatracker status p= age for this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org= /doc/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv/

There's also a htmlized versi= on available at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/dra= ft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-02

A diff from the previous vers= ion is available at:

https://www.ietf.org/rf= cdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-02

Thanks!

— Carlos.

From: Rtg-bfd <rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of &q= uot;Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@= gmail.com>
Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at = 7:12 PM
To: "pals@ietf.org" <pals@i= etf.org>
Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Las= t Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01

This ends the WG last call. Carlos, please upload a new re= vision to reflect received comments and clear out the TBDs.

Thanks,

Andy

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Andrew G. Malis= <agmalis@gmail.co= m> wrote:

This is the PALS = ;Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf= -pals-seamless-vccv-01. You can find the draft at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html= /draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01

Because of the subject matter, this WG LC has= been copied to the BFD WG list as well. Please, submit comments to the PAL= S list only.

This last call will run for two weeks, ending on February 22.

We would appreciate even just responses that = you've read the draft and support publication, even if you don't have any s= pecific comments. Of course, more extensive comments are invited. especiall= y from BFD and/or VCCV experts.

Thanks,

Andy and Stewart

--_000_D2F115EA38FBCcpignataciscocom_-- From nobody Tue Feb 23 15:57:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D161A9082; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:57:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160223235718.23629.30546.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:57:18 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 23:57:18 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of the IETF. Title : Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) Authors : Nobo Akiya Carlos Pignataro Dave Ward Manav Bhatia Santosh Pallagatti Filename : draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2016-02-23 Abstract: This document defines a simplified mechanism to use Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) with large portions of negotiation aspects eliminated, thus providing benefits such as quick provisioning as well as improved control and flexibility to network nodes initiating the path monitoring. This document updates RFC5880. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Feb 23 16:12:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836DC1B3A01; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:12:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EGabAJrRwR_c; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95CE41B2E6A; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:12:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=9988; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1456272751; x=1457482351; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=ZNxTf1lUGGzMDyuHVKn6GlYSf7Jwg0Rkvd4HLJrA+LQ=; b=Db7v28fhhtvsbGE5CC4U+JSLpTApRAL2Vl4euP0Q9OHDQdIbNk+411m1 Ry9BU7umfZLHFXGWOHAFw335A9zFNOuNH7Jg34gQLXqys1C6WbGRJ8VXX CYqAyctnXOyKDlGVTZCk9holXAYTI80pFFqCWb88Q9/U5JJaKh1fGWDTU o=; X-Files: signature.asc : 841 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DKAgAm9cxW/5FdJa1egzpSbQarJo9BD?= =?us-ascii?q?oFmI4VqAoFIOBQBAQEBAQEBZCeEQQEBAQMBI1YFCwIBCBgqAgIyJQIEDgUOiAg?= =?us-ascii?q?IDgOuUY5rAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBDQiGEoFsCIJGgguCVxGCQiuBD?= =?us-ascii?q?wWSc4QUAYMIgWRriAeBXUqDeYhSjkgBHgFDg2Rqhzh9AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.22,492,1449532800"; d="asc'?scan'208,217";a="79741640" Received: from rcdn-core-9.cisco.com ([173.37.93.145]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 24 Feb 2016 00:12:25 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-003.cisco.com (xch-rcd-003.cisco.com [173.37.102.13]) by rcdn-core-9.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u1O0COx3022412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:12:24 GMT Received: from xch-aln-020.cisco.com (173.36.7.30) by XCH-RCD-003.cisco.com (173.37.102.13) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:12:24 -0600 Received: from xch-aln-020.cisco.com ([173.36.7.30]) by XCH-ALN-020.cisco.com ([173.36.7.30]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:12:24 -0600 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: "" Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08.txt Thread-Topic: I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08.txt Thread-Index: AQHRbpX0ckhcLsmNcEaACURpSjTs2J86t3sA Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:12:24 +0000 Message-ID: <6D94B76E-0158-47D7-A936-B14808F40B28@cisco.com> References: <20160223235718.23629.30546.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20160223235718.23629.30546.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.117.115.52] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F66CA788-88FF-48DC-858F-1C42E344AF15"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:12:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F66CA788-88FF-48DC-858F-1C42E344AF15 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E77E3BB1-FBE8-47AC-964C-9F32E60AB6CB" --Apple-Mail=_E77E3BB1-FBE8-47AC-964C-9F32E60AB6CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, BFD WG, As part of the AD Review of draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base = , Alvaro provided a very thorough and most useful review =E2=80=94 = thanks much Alvaro! The full set of comments is at = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/pMpLNEu0zMmocxWdwV6VX1ttv4A = We believe we addressed all those review comments, and we wanted to call = out explicitly the last couple of changes for wg review: New Section 8.2. on Congestion considerations (as also covered in RFC = 5880) Text covering the use of authentication when using Echo (also, as = similar text exists in RFC 5880) Diffs at: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08 = Concerns, comments, observations, suggestions? Please do share on list. Thanks! =E2=80=94 Carlos. > On Feb 23, 2016, at 6:57 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of = the IETF. >=20 > Title : Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection = (S-BFD) > Authors : Nobo Akiya > Carlos Pignataro > Dave Ward > Manav Bhatia > Santosh Pallagatti > Filename : draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08.txt > Pages : 21 > Date : 2016-02-23 >=20 > Abstract: > This document defines a simplified mechanism to use Bidirectional > Forwarding Detection (BFD) with large portions of negotiation = aspects > eliminated, thus providing benefits such as quick provisioning as > well as improved control and flexibility to network nodes initiating > the path monitoring. >=20 > This document updates RFC5880. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 --Apple-Mail=_E77E3BB1-FBE8-47AC-964C-9F32E60AB6CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi, BFD WG,

As part of the AD Review of draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base, Alvaro = provided a very thorough and most useful review =E2=80=94 thanks much = Alvaro! The full set of comments is at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/pMpLNEu0zMmocxWdw= V6VX1ttv4A

We believe we addressed all those review comments, and we = wanted to call out explicitly the last couple of changes for wg = review:

New Section 8.2. on Congestion = considerations (as also covered in RFC 5880)
Text = covering the use of authentication when using Echo (also, as = similar text exists in RFC 5880)

Diffs at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfd-seamless-bas= e-08

Concerns, comments, observations, suggestions? Please do = share on list.

Thanks!

=E2=80=94 Carlos.

On = Feb 23, 2016, at 6:57 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line = Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of = the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of the IETF.

       Title =           : Seamless = Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD)
=        Authors =         : Nobo Akiya
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;Carlos Pignataro
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;Dave Ward
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;Manav Bhatia
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;Santosh Pallagatti
Filename =        : = draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08.txt
Pages =           : 21
= Date =            : = 2016-02-23

Abstract:
=   This document defines a simplified mechanism to use = Bidirectional
  Forwarding Detection (BFD) with = large portions of negotiation aspects
=   eliminated, thus providing benefits such as quick = provisioning as
  well as improved control and = flexibility to network nodes initiating
  the = path monitoring.

  This document = updates RFC5880.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base/<= /a>

There's also a htmlized version = available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-08

A diff from the previous version is available = at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfd-seamless-bas= e-08

Please note that it may = take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until = the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by = anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

= --Apple-Mail=_E77E3BB1-FBE8-47AC-964C-9F32E60AB6CB-- --Apple-Mail=_F66CA788-88FF-48DC-858F-1C42E344AF15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWzPVoAAoJEIXgpQGOZny9CRMP/3g3cdC8lPQHWoqlR9mDVgQN 93aBB6u0JGh4MqA+S8jzh+KrLBVjvXuK+Fj8KQkJo9PG7SMn62aW7SBFQnzwMoVh y86l3bcz7v6dD2Z4TrCYPZoMUpaqRbsQK0HCqcZUFfCBAHpWvlukn8gHhrQUekNp nC9v99HuP9YEfFCQpO4QI3888Kn6s6UDpBGEC+JCJ4+nP8p3vsaJRto2YhDUYJsA ubDDOM2UZGTbi4ZYvvFxmpaWvJf4IMUMILtGlPSkb5uljbZ6ESCZgGB0ZztFi0zu XHsMthxu4ECnv6+qw0GhS1pB5ruFZjpPq6CLHkD1lpnPmfkHn3Uza6lTFZNd7JdO YZEJ7n6Nm84IiS2Cv3lwajx3QgayHL1lRi+eQ+6YfMVGttwhkieAvyaI2zJTE1b4 rZZAHXQG4C2ThmVNCijOSN0kz/hadJ4ZcwYtPaUWKGKqawmezsHYH0I8kV46gpy/ crWTKwlYr038tYjR7CzDUoWxGEYRTrAL9m00plnAyNiAETNF/NxtFWvuJDE8PFxR QQQDi0CFzZNJ52cZzffmXhfvPpoq+637ZxwPKkoIMsAFlsRxk+MIDB7QMX0zvV30 d3VSKD0IIxGMHF6zH2mpmdW5QvhVLJAesI71JwNd2M5bzNhjQeRNMbpV1pcTjWK8 bG10J0EGPDc6LhcL5vCu =zyU5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_F66CA788-88FF-48DC-858F-1C42E344AF15-- From nobody Sun Feb 28 17:56:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-bfd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CD71AD49F; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:56:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.343 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.343 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qKCaH_8eIdxQ; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:56:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from door.sniff.de (door.sniff.de [IPv6:2001:6f8:94f:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A8D1AD49B; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:56:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.sniff.de [127.0.0.1]) by door.sniff.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AF52AA0F; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 01:56:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:56:23 -0800 From: Marc Binderberger To: Jeffrey Haas Message-ID: <20160228175623289812.a7b63188@sniff.de> In-Reply-To: <20160216205925.GA20964@pfrc.org> References: <20160216202608.C61B5180013@rfc-editor.org> <20160216205925.GA20964@pfrc.org> Subject: Re: [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5880 (4410) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GyazMail version 1.5.17 Archived-At: Cc: bestman0729@sina.com, dward@juniper.net, dkatz@juniper.net, iesg@ietf.org, rtg-bfd@ietf.org, RFC Errata System X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 01:56:31 -0000 Hello Jeff and BFD experts, > Section 6.8.4 covers the calculation of the detection interval. > After the start of a poll, the remote system may take some time to respond > to the poll and set the Final bit. During that time, it is permissable to > send Async packets following the packet reception rules - including > authentication - without setting the Final bit. really? the "demand mode" part of 6.8.4 talks about the local system being in demand mode, if I understand it correctly. This means the remote system MUST NOT send packets periodically, unless the remote system itself started a Poll sequence. See 6.8.7, paragraph 7. So for 6.8.4 the local system would not expect any async packets from the remote side other than a packet with the "F" bit, as this exception is allowed for the remote system. There is also section 6.6, saying: When a system in Demand mode wishes to verify bidirectional connectivity, it initiates a Poll Sequence (see section 6.5). If no response is received to a Poll, the Poll is repeated until the Detection Time expires, at which point the session is declared to be Down. Note that if Demand mode is operating only on the local system, the Poll Sequence is performed by simply setting the Poll (P) bit in regular periodic BFD Control packets, as required by section 6.5. One could argue what "no response" means but as it says "the Poll is repeated" and knowing how the Poll sequence works (6.5) it seems to be the "F" bit packet that the local system needs to receive. Saying all this I still agree with you that the errata is not necessary. What the errata wants to say is already said in RFC5880. We probably could pick many paragraphs in RFC5880 and point out sentences that by themselves are not sufficient - ubt are okay in the context of the overall document. Regards, Marc On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:59:25 -0500, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > I do not believe the errata in question is necessary. > > Section 6.8.4 covers the calculation of the detection interval. > After the start of a poll, the remote system may take some time to respond > to the poll and set the Final bit. During that time, it is permissable to > send Async packets following the packet reception rules - including > authentication - without setting the Final bit. > > The text recommended by this proposed errata constrains this time to the > completion of a Poll within the originally negotiated detection interval. > While this may happen, it is not required. > > -- Jeff (speaking as an individual contributor) > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 12:26:08PM -0800, RFC Errata System wrote: >> The following errata report has been held for document update >> for RFC5880, "Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5880&eid=4410 >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Status: Held for Document Update >> Type: Editorial >> >> Reported by: Liu Lin >> Date Reported: 2015-07-07 >> Held by: Alvaro Retana (IESG) >> >> Section: 6.8.4 >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >> If Demand mode is active, and a period of time equal to the Detection >> Time passes after the initiation of a Poll Sequence (the transmission >> of the first BFD Control packet with the Poll bit set), the session >> has gone down >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >> If Demand mode is active, and a period of time equal to the Detection >> Time passes after the initiation of a Poll Sequence (the transmission >> of the first BFD Control packet with the Poll bit set),and without >> receiving a BFD Control packet with the Final (F) bit set from the >> remote system, the session has gone down >> >> Notes >> ----- >> If has received BFD Control packet with the Final (F) bit set from the >> remote system, the session will not gone down >> >> -------------------------------------- >> RFC5880 (draft-ietf-bfd-base-11) >> -------------------------------------- >> Title : Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) >> Publication Date : June 2010 >> Author(s) : D. Katz, D. 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In particular I accept the authors' decision not to address signaling= of the discriminator values using via LDP leaving that to a separate docum= ent. I apologize for a delayed response. Thumb typed on my cellphone Regards, Sasha -------- Original Message -------- From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" Date: Mon, February 22, 2016 6:47 PM -0600 To: "Andrew G. Malis" , pals@ietf.org CC: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv= -01 Thanks, Andy! I just uploaded a new revision which should address all the comments receiv= ed and summarize all the discussion held. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-02 Thanks! - Carlos. From: Rtg-bfd > o= n behalf of "Andrew G. Malis" > Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at 7:12 PM To: "pals@ietf.org" > Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv= -01 This ends the WG last call. Carlos, please upload a new revision to reflect= received comments and clear out the TBDs. Thanks, Andy On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: This is the PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-= 01. You can find the draft at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01 Because of the subject matter, this WG LC has been copied to the BFD WG lis= t as well. Please, submit comments to the PALS list only. This last call will run for two weeks, ending on February 22. We would appreciate even just responses that you've read the draft and supp= ort publication, even if you don't have any specific comments. Of course, m= ore extensive comments are invited. especially from BFD and/or VCCV experts= . Thanks, Andy and Stewart --_000_bckkyoqlu8v47p4cu1dhxuo61456794520761emailandroidcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,=0A=
I have read the -02 revision and my original concerns are successfully reso=
lved. In particular I accept the authors' decision not to address signaling=
 of the discriminator values using via LDP leaving that to a separate docum=
ent.=0A=
=0A=
I apologize for a delayed response.=0A=
=0A=
Thumb typed on my cellphone=0A=
Regards,=0A=
Sasha=0A=
=0A=
-------- Original Message --------=0A=
From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com>=0A=
Date: Mon, February 22, 2016 6:47 PM -0600=0A=
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>, pals@ietf.org=0A=
CC: rtg-bfd@ietf.org=0A=
Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv=
-01=0A=
=0A=

Thanks, Andy!

I just uploaded a new revision which should address all the comments r= eceived and summarize all the discussion held.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-= vccv/

There's also a htmlized version available at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-02<= /a>

A diff from the previous version is available at:

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pals-s= eamless-vccv-02

Thanks!

— Carlos.

This ends the WG last call. Carlos, please upload a new re= vision to reflect received comments and clear out the TBDs.

Thanks,

Andy

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Andrew G. Malis= <agmalis@gmail.co= m> wrote:

This is the PALS = ;Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf= -pals-seamless-vccv-01. You can find the draft at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html= /draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01

Because of the subject matter, this WG LC has= been copied to the BFD WG list as well. Please, submit comments to the PAL= S list only.

This last call will run for two weeks, ending on February 22.

We would appreciate even just responses that = you've read the draft and support publication, even if you don't have any s= pecific comments. Of course, more extensive comments are invited. especiall= y from BFD and/or VCCV experts.

Thanks,

Andy and Stewart

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Malis" Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 22:19:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01 To: Alexander Vainshtein Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134faf2bf2606052cf43c9c Archived-At: Cc: "Carlos Pignataro \(cpignata\)" , "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtg-bfd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTG Area: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection DT" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 03:19:51 -0000 --001a1134faf2bf2606052cf43c9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sasha, Thanks! Now the ball=E2=80=99s in my court. :-) Cheers, Andy On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Alexander Vainshtein < Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote: > Hi all, > I have read the -02 revision and my original concerns are successfully re= solved. In particular I accept the authors' decision not to address signali= ng of the discriminator values using via LDP leaving that to a separate doc= ument. > > I apologize for a delayed response. > > Thumb typed on my cellphone > Regards, > Sasha > > -------- Original Message -------- > From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" > Date: Mon, February 22, 2016 6:47 PM -0600 > To: "Andrew G. Malis" , pals@ietf.org > > CC: rtg-bfd@ietf.org > Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vc= cv-01 > > > Thanks, Andy! > > I just uploaded a new revision which should address all the comments > received and summarize all the discussion held. > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-02 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-02 > > Thanks! > > =E2=80=94 Carlos. > > From: Rtg-bfd on behalf of "Andrew G. Malis" < > agmalis@gmail.com> > Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at 7:12 PM > To: "pals@ietf.org" > Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Last Call for > draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01 > > This ends the WG last call. Carlos, please upload a new revision to > reflect received comments and clear out the TBDs. > > Thanks, > Andy > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: > >> This is the PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vc= cv-01. >> You can find the draft at: >> >> *https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01 >> * >> >> Because of the subject matter, this WG LC has been copied to the BFD WG >> list as well. Please, submit comments to the PALS list only. >> >> This last call will run for two weeks, ending on February 22. >> >> We would appreciate even just responses that you've read the draft and >> support publication, even if you don't have any specific comments. Of >> course, more extensive comments are invited. especially from BFD and/or >> VCCV experts. >> >> Thanks, >> Andy and Stewart >> >> > --001a1134faf2bf2606052cf43c9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sasha,

Thanks! Now the ball=E2=80=99s i= n my court. :-)

Cheers,

Andy

On Mon, Feb 29, 2= 016 at 8:08 PM, Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@= ecitele.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I have read the -02 revision and my original concerns are successfully reso=
lved. In particular I accept the authors' decision not to address signa=
ling of the discriminator values using via LDP leaving that to a separate d=
ocument.

I apologize for a delayed response.

Thumb typed on my cellphone
Regards,
Sasha

-------- Original Message --------
From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com>
Date: Mon, February 22, 2016 6:47 PM -0600
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>, pals@ietf.org
CC: rtg-bfd@ietf.org<=
/a>
Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv=
-01

Thanks, Andy!

I just uploaded a new revision which should address all the comments r= eceived and summarize all the discussion held.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-se= amless-vccv/

There's also a htmlized version available at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pals-seamless-v= ccv-02

A diff from the previous version is available at:

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf= -pals-seamless-vccv-02

Thanks!

=E2=80=94 Carlos.

From: Rtg-bfd <rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org&g= t; on behalf of "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at = 7:12 PM
To: "pals@ietf.org" <pals@ietf.org>
Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: PALS Working Group Las= t Call for draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01

This ends the WG last call. Carlos, please upload a new re= vision to reflect received comments and clear out the TBDs.

Thanks,

Andy

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Andrew G. Malis= <agmalis@gmail.co= m> wrote:

This is the=C2=A0PALS=C2= =A0Working=C2=A0Group=C2=A0Last=C2=A0Call=C2=A0for=C2=A0draft-ie= tf-pals-seamless-vccv-01. You can find the draft at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html= /draft-ietf-pals-seamless-vccv-01

Because of the subject matter, this WG LC has= been copied to the BFD WG list as well. Please, submit comments to the PAL= S list only.

This=C2=A0last=C2=A0call=C2=A0will run for two weeks, ending on February 22.

We would appreciate even just responses that = you've read the draft and support publication, even if you don't ha= ve any specific comments. Of course, more extensive comments are invited. e= specially from BFD and/or VCCV experts.

Thanks,

Andy and Stewart

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