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Subject: RE: [sfc] New documents published by Overlay OAM DT
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Hi Huub,
thank you for your interest in these documents and the questions.
Frankly, I don't have an example of passive FM among ITEF-developed OAM too=
ls.
Distinction between proactive and on-demand may be subjective if we conside=
r how a Measurement Agent from LMAP framework executes measurement tasks, i=
.e. performs PM operation, based on pre-defined schedule. Is that proactive=
 or on-demand PM operation? Perhaps such distinction is unnecessary but we =
used these categories because traditionally we refer to ping and traceroute=
 to be on-demand while BFD as proactive OAM.
What would you suggest?

                Regards,
                                Greg

From: Huub van Helvoort [mailto:huubatwork@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 7:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [sfc] New documents published by Overlay OAM DT

Dear Greg,

You wrote:
the design team had published two documents:

*         Overlay OAM Requirements https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt=
-rtgwg-ooam-requirement-00

*         OAM for Overlay Networks: Gap Analysis https://tools.ietf.org/htm=
l/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis-00

Both documents have subsections pro-active and on-demand for FM
but active and passive for PM.

Why is there no distinction made for active and passive FM,
and pro-active and on-demand for PM?

Best regards, Huub.




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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi Huub,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">thank you for your int=
erest in these documents and the questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Frankly, I don&#8217;t=
 have an example of passive FM among ITEF-developed OAM tools.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Distinction between pr=
oactive and on-demand may be subjective if we consider how a Measurement Ag=
ent from LMAP framework executes measurement tasks, i.e. performs PM operat=
ion, based on pre-defined schedule.
 Is that proactive or on-demand PM operation? Perhaps such distinction is u=
nnecessary but we used these categories because traditionally we refer to p=
ing and traceroute to be on-demand while BFD as proactive OAM.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">What would you suggest=
?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Regard=
s,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:windowtext"> Huub van Helvoort [mailto:huubatwork@gmail.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 01, 2016 7:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gregory Mirsky; rtg-bfd@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org; =
BIER (bier@ietf.org); nvo3@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ignas Bagdonas (ibagdona@gmail.com); Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)=
 (cpignata@cisco.com); Erik Nordmark (nordmark@sonic.net); dekumar@cisco.co=
m; Petr Lapukhov (petr@fb.com); santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com; Alia Atlas (a=
katlas@gmail.com); Nagendra Kumar
 (naikumar) (naikumar@cisco.com); David Mozes (davidm@mellanox.com)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sfc] New documents published by Overlay OAM DT<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear Greg,<br>
<br>
You wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">the design team had published two documents:<o:p></o=
:p></p>
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1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:Symbol"><span style=
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n&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>Overlay OAM Requirements <a href=3D"https://=
tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement-00">
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement-00</a><o:p>=
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list:Ignore">&middot;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;"=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>OAM for Overlay Networks: Gap Analysis <a hr=
ef=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis-00">
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis-00</a><o:p>=
</o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><br>
Both documents have subsections pro-active and on-demand for FM<br>
but active and passive for PM.<br>
<br>
Why is there no distinction made for active and passive FM, <br>
and pro-active and on-demand for PM?<br>
<br>
Best regards, Huub.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    <br>
    Both documents have subsections pro-active and on-demand for FM<br>
    but active and passive for PM.<br>
    <br>
    Why is there no distinction made for active and passive FM, <br>
    and pro-active and on-demand for PM?<br>
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    Best regards, Huub.<br>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of the IETF.

        Title           : Yang Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)
        Authors         : Lianshu Zheng
                          Reshad Rahman
                          Santosh Pallagatti
                          Mahesh Jethanandani
                          Greg Mirsky
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bfd-yang-02.txt
	Pages           : 50
	Date            : 2016-07-07

Abstract:
   This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure
   and manage Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD).



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Thanks for you new draft version 2.
Just one compilation warning for ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang:

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    Dear authors,<br>
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    Thanks for you new draft version 2.<br>
    Just one compilation warning for <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang">ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang</a>: <br>
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      should be 2016-07-04</blockquote>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection of the IETF.

        Title           : Yang Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)
        Authors         : Lianshu Zheng
                          Reshad Rahman
                          Santosh Pallagatti
                          Mahesh Jethanandani
                          Greg Mirsky
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bfd-yang-03.txt
	Pages           : 50
	Date            : 2016-07-08

Abstract:
   This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure
   and manage Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD).



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Uploaded -03 to fix this.

Regards,
Reshad.

From: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" <bclaise@cisco.com<mailto:bclaise@cisco.com=
>>
Date: Friday, July 8, 2016 at 3:56 AM
To: "draft-ietf-bfd-yang@tools.ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bfd-yang@tools.ie=
tf.org>" <draft-ietf-bfd-yang@tools.ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bfd-yang@too=
ls.ietf.org>>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org<mailto:rtg-bfd@ietf.org>" <rtg-bfd@ietf.or=
g<mailto:rtg-bfd@ietf.org>>
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i@gmail.com>>, <draft-ietf-bfd-yang@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bfd-yang@iet=
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Resent-Date: Friday, July 8, 2016 at 3:56 AM

Dear authors,

Thanks for you new draft version 2.
Just one compilation warning for ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang<mailto:ietf=
-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang>:
ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang:1<mailto:ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang:1>: =
warning: unexpected latest revision "2016-01-04" in ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-=
04.yang<mailto:ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang>, should be 2016-07-04
See http://www.claise.be/IETFYANGPageCompilation.html for the details.

Regards, Benoit


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<div>Uploaded &#8211;03 to fix this.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Reshad.</div>
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span>&quot;Benoit Claise (bclaise)=
&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bclaise@cisco.com">bclaise@cisco.com</a>&gt;<b=
r>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, July 8, 2016 at 3:56 =
AM<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-i=
etf-bfd-yang@tools.ietf.org">draft-ietf-bfd-yang@tools.ietf.org</a>&quot; &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-bfd-yang@tools.ietf.org">draft-ietf-bfd-yan=
g@tools.ietf.org</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:rtg-bfd@ietf.org">rtg-bfd=
@ietf.org</a>&quot;
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rtg-bfd@ietf.org">rtg-bfd@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>draft-ietf-bfd-yang: YANG =
compilation warning<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Resent-From: </span>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
alias-bounces@ietf.org">alias-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;, &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:bclaise@cisco.com">bclaise@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Resent-To: </span>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ve=
ro.zheng@huawei.com">vero.zheng@huawei.com</a>&gt;, Reshad &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:rrahman@cisco.com">rrahman@cisco.com</a>&gt;, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m=
jethanandani@gmail.com">mjethanandani@gmail.com</a>&gt;, &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com">gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com</a>&gt;,
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com">santosh.pallagatti@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-bfd-yang@ietf.org">draft-i=
etf-bfd-yang@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Resent-Date: </span>Friday, July 8, 2016 a=
t 3:56 AM<br>
</div>
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</div>
<div>
<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">Dear authors,<br>
<br>
Thanks for you new draft version 2.<br>
Just one compilation warning for <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=
=3D"mailto:ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang">
ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang</a>: <br>
<blockquote><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:ietf-bfd-i=
p-sh@2016-07-04.yang:1">ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang:1</a>: warning: unex=
pected latest revision &quot;2016-01-04&quot; in
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07=
-04.yang">
ietf-bfd-ip-sh@2016-07-04.yang</a>, should be 2016-07-04</blockquote>
See <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.claise.be/IETFYAN=
GPageCompilation.html">
http://www.claise.be/IETFYANGPageCompilation.html</a> for the details.<br>
<br>
Regards, Benoit<br>
<br>
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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7880

        Title:      Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) 
        Author:     C. Pignataro, D. Ward,
                    N. Akiya, M. Bhatia, S. Pallagatti
        Status:     Standards Track
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        Date:       July 2016
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        RFC 7881

        Title:      Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) 
                    for IPv4, IPv6, and MPLS 
        Author:     C. Pignataro, D. Ward, N. Akiya
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       July 2016
        Mailbox:    cpignata@cisco.com, 
                    wardd@cisco.com, 
                    nobo.akiya.dev@gmail.com
        Pages:      8
        Characters: 16352
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-ip-06.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7881

        DOI:        http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7881

This document defines procedures for using Seamless Bidirectional
Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) in IPv4, IPv6, and MPLS environments.

This document is a product of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

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        RFC 7882

        Title:      Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) 
                    Use Cases 
        Author:     S. Aldrin, C. Pignataro,
                    G. Mirsky, N. Kumar
        Status:     Informational
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       July 2016
        Mailbox:    aldrin.ietf@gmail.com, 
                    cpignata@cisco.com, 
                    gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com,
                    naikumar@cisco.com
        Pages:      15
        Characters: 35774
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-use-case-08.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7882

        DOI:        http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7882

This document describes various use cases for Seamless Bidirectional
Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) and provides requirements such that
protocol mechanisms allow for simplified detection of forwarding
failures.

These use cases support S-BFD, which is a simplified mechanism for
using BFD with a large proportion of negotiation aspects eliminated,
accelerating the establishment of a BFD session.  The benefits of
S-BFD include quick provisioning, as well as improved control and
flexibility for network nodes initiating path monitoring.

This document is a product of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection Working Group of the IETF.


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Congratulations to the working group on RFCs 7880-7886 for Seamless BFD.
This wraps up a very large bit of Working Group work.

-- Jeff

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 05:48:04PM -0700, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
> 
>         
>         RFC 7880
> 
>         Title:      Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) 
>         Author:     C. Pignataro, D. Ward,
>                     N. Akiya, M. Bhatia, S. Pallagatti
>         Status:     Standards Track
>         Stream:     IETF
>         Date:       July 2016
>         Mailbox:    cpignata@cisco.com, 
>                     wardd@cisco.com, 
>                     nobo.akiya.dev@gmail.com, 
>                     manav@ionosnetworks.com, 
>                     santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com
>         Pages:      24
>         Characters: 45987
>         Updates:    RFC 5880
> 
>         I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-bfd-seamless-base-11.txt
> 
>         URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7880
> 
>         DOI:        http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7880
> 
> This document defines Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding Detection
> (S-BFD), a simplified mechanism for using BFD with a large proportion
> of negotiation aspects eliminated, thus providing benefits such as
> quick provisioning, as well as improved control and flexibility for
> network nodes initiating path monitoring.
> 
> This document updates RFC 5880.
> 
> This document is a product of the Bidirectional Forwarding Detection Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> This is now a Proposed Standard.
> 
> STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track
> protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions
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Working Group,

A tentative agenda has been posted:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/96/agenda/bfd/

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From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>
To: "Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)" <venggovi@cisco.com>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>
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Hi,

Some questions on the draft:

- Section 4 mentions that LSP-Ping is needed to exchange discriminators
because the MPLS label stack doesn=B9t contain enough information to
disambiguate the sender of the session. Isn=B9t the IP hdr enough?

- Section 7.1.1 mentions SH label, I believe this is the ESI label as per
section 8.3 of RFC7432?

- There are alternative encapsulation formats with sub-TLVs for unicast
and multicast. Is it an alternative to the label stack or on top of the
label stack? Even if obvious, I think the advantage of those alternative
formats should be stated.

Regards,
Reshad.




On 2016-07-19, 4:24 AM, "Rtg-bfd on behalf of Vengada Prasad Govindan
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>Hello all,
>  draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt was presented by Greg Mirsky at IETF 96
>MPLS WG and is scheduled for presentation at BESS and BFD WG meetings.
>Authors request comments/ suggestions on this draft.
>Thanks
>Prasad
>
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>A new version of I-D, draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt has been
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>Name:		draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd
>Revision:	00
>Title:		Fault Management for EVPN networks
>Document date:	2016-07-06
>Group:		Individual Submission
>Pages:		10
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>https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt
>Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd/
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>
>Abstract:
>   This document proposes a proactive, in-band network OAM mechanism to
>   detect loss of continuity and miss-connection faults that affect
>   unicast and multi-destination paths, used by Broadcast, unknown
>   Unicast and Multicast traffic, in an EVPN network.  The mechanisms
>   proposed in the draft use the principles of the widely adopted
>   Bidirectional Forwarding Detection protocol.
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From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>
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I second the comments made by Greg, Ccing BFD WG since BFD multipoint is
used for failure detection and BGP is being extended to carry BFD
discriminator.

Regards,
Reshad.



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>
>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>directories.
>This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.
>
>        Title           : Multicast VPN fast upstream failover
>        Authors         : Thomas Morin
>                          Robert Kebler
>	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01.txt
>	Pages           : 18
>	Date            : 2016-07-07
>
>Abstract:
>   This document defines multicast VPN extensions and procedures that
>   allow fast failover for upstream failures, by allowing downstream PEs
>   to take into account the status of Provider-Tunnels (P-tunnels) when
>   selecting the upstream PE for a VPN multicast flow, and extending BGP
>   MVPN routing so that a C-multicast route can be advertized toward a
>   standby upstream PE.
>
>
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>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>
To: "draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover@ietf.org>, "draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd@ietf.org" <draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd@ietf.org>
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Since BGP may be used to exchange discriminators for EVPN also, would it
make sense to have a sepaarte BESS draft just for BFD discriminator
exchange?

Regards,
Reshad.


On 2016-07-21, 2:46 PM, "BESS on behalf of Reshad Rahman (rrahman)"
<bess-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of rrahman@cisco.com> wrote:

>I second the comments made by Greg, Ccing BFD WG since BFD multipoint is
>used for failure detection and BGP is being extended to carry BFD
>discriminator.
>
>Regards,
>Reshad.
>
>
>
>On 2016-07-07, 10:23 AM, "BESS on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org"
><bess-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>directories.
>>This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.
>>
>>        Title           : Multicast VPN fast upstream failover
>>        Authors         : Thomas Morin
>>                          Robert Kebler
>>	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01.txt
>>	Pages           : 18
>>	Date            : 2016-07-07
>>
>>Abstract:
>>   This document defines multicast VPN extensions and procedures that
>>   allow fast failover for upstream failures, by allowing downstream PEs
>>   to take into account the status of Provider-Tunnels (P-tunnels) when
>>   selecting the upstream PE for a VPN multicast flow, and extending BGP
>>   MVPN routing so that a C-multicast route can be advertized toward a
>>   standby upstream PE.
>>
>>
>>
>>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover/
>>
>>There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01
>>
>>A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01
>>
>>
>>Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
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Hi Reshad,
I absolutely agree and encourage new draft that defines the BGP-BFD Attribu=
te and its relationship with BFD Discriminator TLV in LSP Ping (RFC 5884). =
And another question to the authors of draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover, =
Do you see scenarios where draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-active-tail can be use=
d?

	Regards,
		Greg

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Subject: Re: [bess] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01.txt

Since BGP may be used to exchange discriminators for EVPN also, would it ma=
ke sense to have a sepaarte BESS draft just for BFD discriminator exchange?

Regards,
Reshad.


On 2016-07-21, 2:46 PM, "BESS on behalf of Reshad Rahman (rrahman)"
<bess-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of rrahman@cisco.com> wrote:

>I second the comments made by Greg, Ccing BFD WG since BFD multipoint=20
>is used for failure detection and BGP is being extended to carry BFD=20
>discriminator.
>
>Regards,
>Reshad.
>
>
>
>On 2016-07-07, 10:23 AM, "BESS on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org"
><bess-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20
>>directories.
>>This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.
>>
>>        Title           : Multicast VPN fast upstream failover
>>        Authors         : Thomas Morin
>>                          Robert Kebler
>>	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01.txt
>>	Pages           : 18
>>	Date            : 2016-07-07
>>
>>Abstract:
>>   This document defines multicast VPN extensions and procedures that
>>   allow fast failover for upstream failures, by allowing downstream PEs
>>   to take into account the status of Provider-Tunnels (P-tunnels) when
>>   selecting the upstream PE for a VPN multicast flow, and extending BGP
>>   MVPN routing so that a C-multicast route can be advertized toward a
>>   standby upstream PE.
>>
>>
>>
>>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover/
>>
>>There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01
>>
>>A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-0
>>1
>>
>>
>>Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20
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Working Group,

https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-bfd

Ignas Bagdonas did his usual immaculate job at taking minutes for our
session in Berlin.  Please review them for correctness and content.

The deadline for comments is this Friday, July 29.

-- Jeff & Reshad


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Hi Jeff,
great minutes. No comments, changes from my side.

	Regards,
		Greg

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Subject: Candidate minutes for the IETF-96 (Berlin) BFD meeting

Working Group,

https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-bfd

Ignas Bagdonas did his usual immaculate job at taking minutes for our sessi=
on in Berlin.  Please review them for correctness and content.

The deadline for comments is this Friday, July 29.

-- Jeff & Reshad


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Hi Thomas, et. al,
my note is regarding the presentation and the discussion of
draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover.
Minutes state "some discussion on BFD boostraping and suggestion we may
want to have BFD WG aware".
I recall that I've used stronger than "may want" encouragement to bring
BFD-related work to attention of the BFD WG. In fact, I've suggested that
the work on bootstrapping p2mp BFD session belongs in BFD WG. And shortly
after the meeting BFD WG co-chair, Reshad Rahman, concurred with my that
comment on the mailing list.

Regards, Greg

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 4:29 AM, <thomas.morin@orange.com> wrote:

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Thomas, et. al,<div>my note is regarding the presentati=
on and the discussion of=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:p=
re-wrap">draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover.</span></div><div><span style=
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straping and suggestion we may want to have BFD WG aware&quot;.</span></div=
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related work to attention of the BFD WG. In fact, I&#39;ve suggested that t=
he work on bootstrapping p2mp BFD session belongs in BFD WG. And shortly af=
ter the meeting BFD WG co-chair, Reshad Rahman, concurred with my that comm=
ent on the mailing list.</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);w=
hite-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);=
white-space:pre-wrap">Regards, Greg</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 4:29 AM,  <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thomas.morin@orange.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">thomas.morin@orange.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
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Please read and suggest any relevant correction or adjustment.<br>
These minutes will become final on September 12th.<br>
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Best,<br>
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