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Dear Reshad Rahman,

The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the original request. 


    bfd Session 1 (1:00 requested)
    Wednesday, 27 March 2019, Morning Session I 0900-1100
    Room Name: Athens/Barcelona size: 100
    ---------------------------------------------


iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/sessions/bfd.ics

Request Information:


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Working Group Name: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection
Area Name: Routing Area
Session Requester: Reshad Rahman

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  1 Hour
Number of Attendees: 25
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority: idr grow rtgwg bess lisp netmod netconf
 Second Priority: bier spring mpls teas pals sfc
 Third Priority: ccamp


People who must be present:
  Jeffrey Haas
  Reshad Rahman
  Martin Vigoureux

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
  Monday to Thursday
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Dear Jeff and Reshad,
we've started the new work on the Extended BFD
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mirmin-bfd-extended/> and much
appreciate the opportunity to present and discuss it at the meeting in
Prague.

draft-mirmin-bfd-extended           Presenter: Greg Mirsky         Time: 15
min

Kind regards,
Greg

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Working Group,

We have a two hour session scheduled the Wednesday of IETF week.

A tentative agenda has been posted based on existing requests.
We have room for more presentations or discussion topics.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-bfd/


-- Jeff & Reshad


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Hi Jeff and Reshad,
could you please add draft-mirmin-bfd-extended to the agenda in Prague:

draft-mirmin-bfd-extended         Presenter: Greg Mirsky          Time: 15
min

Regards,
Greg

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 5:56 AM Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote:

> Working Group,
>
> We have a two hour session scheduled the Wednesday of IETF week.
>
> A tentative agenda has been posted based on existing requests.
> We have room for more presentations or discussion topics.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-bfd/
>
>
> -- Jeff & Reshad
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Jeff and Reshad,<div>could you please add draft-mirmin-=
bfd-extended to the agenda in Prague:</div><div><br></div><div>draft-mirmin=
-bfd-extended=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Presenter: Greg Mirsky=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Time: 15 min</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,=
</div><div>Greg</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 5:56 AM Jeffrey Haas &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:jhaas@pfrc.org">jhaas@pfrc.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Working Group,<br>
<br>
We have a two hour session scheduled the Wednesday of IETF week.<br>
<br>
A tentative agenda has been posted based on existing requests.<br>
We have room for more presentations or discussion topics.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-bfd/" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-bfd/</a>=
<br>
<br>
<br>
-- Jeff &amp; Reshad<br>
<br>
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Acee,

I've got Ketan in there for the strict BFD for OSPF.  While I suspect =
that there's an author split, any chance those presentations can be =
coordinated so that the overlapping motivations (obvious ones!) might be =
able to be minimized for presentation time purposes?

-- Jeff


> On Mar 12, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> =
wrote:
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> Hi Jeff,
> We'd also like 10-15 to present =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merciaz-idr-bgp-bfd-strict-mode/
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> The presenter is Mercia Zheng.=20
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> Thanks,
> Acee
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> =EF=BB=BFOn 3/12/19, 8:56 AM, "Rtg-bfd on behalf of Jeffrey Haas" =
<rtg-bfd-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote:
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>    Working Group,
>=20
>    We have a two hour session scheduled the Wednesday of IETF week.
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>    A tentative agenda has been posted based on existing requests.
>    We have room for more presentations or discussion topics.
>=20
>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-bfd/
>=20
>=20
>    -- Jeff & Reshad
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Xiao Min,

I've added you to the agenda.

A personal request: Have at least one slide explaining Geneve.  There =
will be working group members that don't follow that work.

-- Jeff

> On Mar 13, 2019, at 12:54 AM, <xiao.min2@zte.com.cn> =
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> Hi Jeff & Reshad,
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> On Feb 18th I've already requested a small time slot to present =
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agenda?
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> BFD for Geneve (draft-xiao-bfd-geneve)   Presenter: Xiao Min   =
Duration: about 5 min
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> Thanks,
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> Working Group,
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> We have a two hour session scheduled the Wednesday of IETF week.
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> A tentative agenda has been posted based on existing requests.
> We have room for more presentations or discussion topics.
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Xiao =
Min,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I've added you =
to the agenda.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">A=
 personal request: Have at least one slide explaining Geneve. =
&nbsp;There will be working group members that don't follow that =
work.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">-- =
Jeff<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar 13, 2019, at 12:54 AM, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:xiao.min2@zte.com.cn" =
class=3D"">xiao.min2@zte.com.cn</a>&gt; &lt;<a =
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class=3D"">xiao.min2@zte.com.cn</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"zcontentRow"><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial;" =
class=3D"">Hi Jeff &amp; Reshad,</p><p =
style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"line-height: 21px;" class=3D"">On Feb =
18th&nbsp;</span>I've already requested a small time slot to present =
<span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">draft-xiao-bfd-geneve-00, you may miss it, could you pls add =
it to the agenda?</span></p><p style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial;"=
 class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" class=3D"">BFD for =
Geneve (draft-xiao-bfd-geneve) &nbsp; Presenter: Xiao Min &nbsp; =
Duration: about 5 min<br class=3D""></span></p><p =
style=3D"font-size:14px;font-family:arial;" class=3D""><span =
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style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" class=3D"">Thanks,</span></p><p =
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style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" class=3D"">Xiao Min</span></p><div =
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- BFD agenda posted</strong></span></div></div><div =
class=3D"zhistoryContent"><div class=3D"">Working&nbsp;Group,<br =
class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">We&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;two&nbsp;hour&nbsp;session&nbsp;schedu=
led&nbsp;the&nbsp;Wednesday&nbsp;of&nbsp;IETF&nbsp;week.<br class=3D""><br=
 =
class=3D"">A&nbsp;tentative&nbsp;agenda&nbsp;has&nbsp;been&nbsp;posted&nbs=
p;based&nbsp;on&nbsp;existing&nbsp;requests.<br =
class=3D"">We&nbsp;have&nbsp;room&nbsp;for&nbsp;more&nbsp;presentations&nb=
sp;or&nbsp;discussion&nbsp;topics.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-bfd/" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-104-bfd/</a><br =
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Greg,

This will be added to the agenda.  Two brief notes:
- Presuming the agenda doesn't get too full, this will be intentionally =
made the last agenda item.  The intention is to permit maximum =
discussion time on this.
- The chairs may precede the longer discussion with 1-2 slides of our =
own titled "motivations for BFDv2".

If the agenda starts to get full, we'll rearrange things to provide for =
the discussion time.

-- Jeff


> On Mar 6, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Dear Jeff and Reshad,
> we've started the new work on the Extended BFD =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mirmin-bfd-extended/> and much =
appreciate the opportunity to present and discuss it at the meeting in =
Prague.
>=20
> draft-mirmin-bfd-extended           Presenter: Greg Mirsky         =
Time: 15 min
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> Kind regards,
> Greg


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Hi Jeff,
thank you for your consideration. I'm glad to have more experts to think,
prepare for the discussion of what BFDv2 should be.

Regards,
Greg

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:26 AM Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote:

> Greg,
>
> This will be added to the agenda.  Two brief notes:
> - Presuming the agenda doesn't get too full, this will be intentionally
> made the last agenda item.  The intention is to permit maximum discussion
> time on this.
> - The chairs may precede the longer discussion with 1-2 slides of our own
> titled "motivations for BFDv2".
>
> If the agenda starts to get full, we'll rearrange things to provide for
> the discussion time.
>
> -- Jeff
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jeff and Reshad,
> we've started the new work on the Extended BFD
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mirmin-bfd-extended/> and much
> appreciate the opportunity to present and discuss it at the meeting in
> Prague.
>
> draft-mirmin-bfd-extended           Presenter: Greg Mirsky         Time:
> 15 min
>
> Kind regards,
> Greg
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Jeff,<div>thank you for your consideration. I&#39;m gla=
d to have more experts to think, prepare for the discussion of what BFDv2 s=
hould be.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Greg</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar=
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as@pfrc.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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time on this.</div><div>- The chairs may precede the longer discussion with=
 1-2 slides of our own titled &quot;motivations for BFDv2&quot;.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>If the agenda starts to get full, we&#39;ll rearrange things=
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<div><br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 6, 2019, at 11:38 A=
M, Greg Mirsky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
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">Dear Jeff and Reshad,<div>we&#39;ve started the new work on the <a href=
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_blank">Extended BFD</a>=C2=A0and much appreciate the opportunity to presen=
t and discuss it at the meeting in Prague.</div><div><br></div><div>draft-m=
irmin-bfd-extended=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Presenter: Greg =
Mirsky=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Time: 15 min<br></div><div><br></di=
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Dear All,
as promised, below is an example of a non-assertion covenant statement that
may be used in the Licensing information section of the IETF's IPR
Disclosure form:
If any claim of any patent owned or controlled by XXX or its Affiliates is
essential on a technical ground to the standard adopted by IETF, XXX on
behalf of itself and its Affiliates hereby covenant not to assert any such
claim against any party for making, using, selling, offering for sale or
importing a product that implements the corresponding part of the standard.
However, nothing herein shall preclude XXX or any of its Affiliates from
asserting the above-mentioned patent claims against any party that asserts
directly or indirectly a patent it owns or controls against XXX and/or its
Affiliates, or against any products of XXX or its Affiliates either alone
or in combination with other products.
FRAND royalty-bearing licenses will be available to anyone who prefers that
option.
Of course, you can find more examples among many of the IPR Disclosures
that use the covenant licensing terms in their IPR Dislosures.

Hope this will be helpful.

Regards,
Greg

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Dear All,<div>as promised, below is an ex=
ample of a non-assertion covenant statement that may be used in the Licensi=
ng information section of the IETF&#39;s IPR Disclosure form:</div><div><di=
v>If any claim of any patent owned or controlled by XXX or its Affiliates i=
s essential on a technical ground to the standard adopted by IETF, XXX on b=
ehalf of itself and its Affiliates hereby covenant not to assert any such c=
laim against any party for making, using, selling, offering for sale or imp=
orting a product that implements the corresponding part of the standard. Ho=
wever, nothing herein shall preclude XXX or any of its Affiliates from asse=
rting the above-mentioned patent claims against any party that asserts dire=
ctly or indirectly a patent it owns or controls against XXX and/or its Affi=
liates, or against any products of XXX or its Affiliates either alone or in=
 combination with other products.</div><div>FRAND royalty-bearing licenses =
will be available to anyone who prefers that option.</div></div><div>Of cou=
rse, you can find more examples among many of the IPR Disclosures that use =
the covenant licensing terms in their IPR Dislosures.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Hope this will be helpful.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>=
Greg</div></div></div>

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Hi Dave,



If there exist both IGP path and LSP to a destination which requires
MH-BFD, which is the preferred one to use?

I believe some implementations impose labels for plain ip traffic egressing on
the node having LSP to destination.

In that case, MH-BFD control packets might go over LSP tunnels to
destination.



Is there any advantage/disadvantage from MH-BFD perspective to prefer one
over other?



Tulasi.

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nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Hi
Dave,<span></span></span></p>

<span class=3D"gmail-"></span>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
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nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><span class=3D"gmail-">=C2=A0<spa=
n></span></span></span></p>



<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">If
there exist both IGP path and LSP to a destination which requires MH-BFD, w=
hich
is the preferred one to use?<span></span></span></p>

<span class=3D"gmail-"></span>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I
believe some implementations impose labels for plain ip traffic egressing<s=
pan class=3D"gmail-apple-converted-space"><b><i>=C2=A0</i></b></span>on the=
 node having LSP
to destination.<span></span></span></p>

<span class=3D"gmail-"></span>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">In
that case, MH-BFD control packets might go over LSP tunnels to destination.=
<span></span></span></p>

<span class=3D"gmail-"></span>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><span class=3D"gmail-">=C2=A0<spa=
n></span></span></span></p>



<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Is
there any advantage/disadvantage from MH-BFD perspective to prefer one over
other?<span></span></span></p>

<span class=3D"gmail-"></span>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><span class=3D"gmail-">=C2=A0<spa=
n></span></span></span></p>



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nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Tulasi.<span class=3D"gmail-apple=
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