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Subject: [saag] Interested in chairing a WG?  Let us know!
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Dear all,
 
The security area has been fortunate enough in recent history to have a
solid pipeline of candidates for WG leadership positions, but we should not
grow complacent and come to rely on that continuing to be the case!  Roman
and I would like to have a pool of candidates to select from for any given
position.  Such a pool lets us tailor the match between the position, and
the skills and potential of the candidates in question.  I'm sending this
note to help make sure we've got the broadest pool available.  If you are
interested in chairing, or know someone interested in chairing, please
email us privately.  (Co-chairing with an experienced chair is a great way
to learn more about the IETF and how to work here effectively!)  Even if
you think you're not quite ready but will eventually be interested, or
cannot be a chair right now but will want to be in the future if time/work
commitments change, please let us know that you're thinking about it as a
possibility.  We can check back with you when an opportunity or three does
arise.  (And of course, if you're ready to start tomorrow, we want to hear
about that, too!)

We'll also try to continue our practice of sending an open call for
candidates to the WG list for which there is a vacancy, to catch interested
parties that do not subscribe to saag@ietf.org, but this seems like a good
forum for a more general call for interest.

Thanks, and looking forward to talking to you,
 
Ben


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This is not a standards-creating (proposed) group, but things that are
in-scope include "application hints to the network" and "network hints to
device applications", which are topics that I think we have some experience
to indicate can be challenging.

-Ben

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:47:00 +0800
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Subject: [secdir] [new-work] Proposed W3C Charter: Web & Networks Interest Group
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Hello,

Today W3C Advisory Committee Representatives received a Proposal
to review a draft charter for the Web & Networks Interest Group:
  https://www.w3.org/2021/03/proposed-web-networks-charter.html

As part of ensuring that the community is aware of proposed work
at W3C, this draft charter is public during the Advisory
Committee review period.

W3C invites public comments through 03:59 UTC on 2021-04-03
(23:59, Eastern time on 2021-04-02)  on the proposed charter.
Please send comments to public-new-work@w3.org,
which has a public archive:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/

Other than comments sent in formal responses by W3C Advisory
Committee Representatives, W3C cannot guarantee a response to
comments. If you work for a W3C Member [1], please coordinate
your comments with your Advisory Committee Representative. For
example, you may wish to make public comments via this list and
have your Advisory Committee Representative refer to it from his
or her formal review comments.

If you should have any questions or need further information, please
contact Dominique Hazael-Massieux, Team Contact for the
Web & Networks Interest Group <dom@w3.org>.

Thank you,

Xueyuan Jia,  W3C Marketing & Communications

[1] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Member/List



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Hello saag and secdispatch,

On Thursday, I have a slot during the saag meeting to talk with you about
the qlog project.
Since this is the first time this is discussed in this wg, and because it
might be of interest to secdispatch as well, your chairs asked me to do a
small introduction via the mailing list in preparation.

qlog [1][2] started off as a way to do logging for HTTP/3 and QUIC (hence
Quic LOGging).
As QUIC encrypts almost all of its metadata, utilizing packet captures for
analysis almost always requires full decryption of application (user) data
as well, leading to potential scalability and especially privacy issues.

As such, qlog instead proposes logging protocol metadata at the
"endpoints"/implementations directly (e.g., client, server, load balancer,
...), where only the necessary (and properly anonymized) metadata can be
recorded.
This approach additionally allows the inclusion of events typically not
seen on the wire, such as congestion control behaviour.
All events are recorded in a structured format (currently JSON) using a
fixed schema to make it easier to write cross-implementation tooling.

This approach has since found some success for QUIC and HTTP/3, with the
majority of implementations supporting the format [3] (or something
similar) and actively using its associated qvis tooling [4] to debug and
analyse implementations and deployments.
As such, the qlog drafts are on track to be adopted by the QUIC wg
following their re-charter after delivering QUIC v1 in the coming months.

However, it is clear that qlog's basic principles (mainly: structured
logging at endpoints) can be useful for many other (encrypted) protocols
besides QUIC and HTTP/3 as well.
As such, while for practical reasons the continued qlog work will happen in
the QUIC wg, the goal is to define it as a protocol-agnostic framework,
complete with guidelines to add event definitions for new protocols.
This can already be seen in the current split in two drafts: the first
defines a general-purpose schema with the format and high-level metadata
[1], while the QUIC and HTTP/3-specific events are in the second document
[2].
The idea would be to have different documents for additional protocols
added in the future.

In order to make sure qlog can indeed eventually be used as a substrate for
many different protocols and use cases, we are now already
soliciting feedback and insights from the wider IETF community.
My presentation on qlog will give a bit more details on qlog, how it has
been used in practice and about the main open challenges we hope you can
help us with.
It will hopefully also entice some of you to join the later discussions in
the QUIC wg as well, of course ;)

See you all on Thursday!
With best regards,
Robin

[1]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-marx-qlog-main-schema/
[2]:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-marx-qlog-event-definitions-quic-h3/
[3]:
https://qlog.edm.uhasselt.be/anrw/files/DebuggingQUICWithQlog_Marx_final_21jun2020.pdf
[4]: https://qvis.quictools.info

-- 

dr. Robin Marx
Postdoc researcher - Web protocols
Expertise centre for Digital Media

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello=C2=A0<span class=3D"gmail-il">saag and secdispatch</=
span>,<div><br></div><div>On Thursday, I have a slot during the saag meetin=
g to talk with you about the qlog project.=C2=A0</div><div>Since this is th=
e first time this is discussed in this wg, and because it might be of inter=
est to secdispatch as well, your chairs asked me to do a small introduction=
 via the mailing list in preparation.</div><div><br></div><div>qlog [1][2] =
started off as a way to do logging for HTTP/3 and QUIC (hence Quic LOGging)=
.</div><div>As QUIC encrypts almost all of its metadata, utilizing packet c=
aptures for analysis almost always requires full decryption of application =
(user) data as well, leading to potential scalability and especially privac=
y issues.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>As such, qlog instead proposes log=
ging protocol metadata at the &quot;endpoints&quot;/implementations directl=
y (e.g., client, server, load balancer, ...), where only the necessary (and=
 properly anonymized)=C2=A0metadata can be recorded.=C2=A0</div><div>This a=
pproach additionally allows the inclusion of events typically not seen on t=
he wire, such as congestion control behaviour.=C2=A0</div><div>All events a=
re recorded in a structured format (currently JSON) using a fixed schema to=
 make it easier to write cross-implementation tooling.=C2=A0</div><div><br>=
</div><div>This approach has since found some success for QUIC and HTTP/3, =
with the majority of implementations supporting the format [3] (or somethin=
g similar) and actively using its associated qvis tooling [4] to debug and =
analyse implementations and deployments.</div><div>As such, the=C2=A0qlog d=
rafts are on track to be adopted by the QUIC wg following their re-charter =
after delivering QUIC v1 in the coming months.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>However, it is clear that qlog&#39;s=C2=A0basic principles (mainly: stru=
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cols besides QUIC and HTTP/3 as well.=C2=A0</div><div>As such, while for pr=
actical reasons the continued qlog work will happen in the QUIC wg, the goa=
l is to define it as a protocol-agnostic framework, complete with guideline=
s to add event definitions for new protocols.</div><div>This can already be=
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dea would be to have different documents for additional protocols added in =
the future.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>In order to make sure qlog can i=
ndeed eventually be used as a substrate for many different protocols and us=
e cases, we are now already soliciting=C2=A0feedback and insights from the =
wider IETF community.</div><div>My presentation on qlog will give a bit mor=
e details on qlog, how it has been used in practice and about the main open=
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 also entice some of you to join the later discussions in the QUIC wg as we=
ll, of course ;)=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>See you all on Thursday!</d=
iv><div>With best regards,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div>[1]:=C2=A0<a=
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get=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-marx-qlog-main-schema=
/</a><br>[2]:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-marx-q=
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org/doc/draft-marx-qlog-event-definitions-quic-h3/</a><div>[3]:=C2=A0<a hre=
f=3D"https://qlog.edm.uhasselt.be/anrw/files/DebuggingQUICWithQlog_Marx_fin=
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"https://qvis.quictools.info/" target=3D"_blank">https://qvis.quictools.inf=
o</a></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"=
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rdana,Geneva,sans-serif">dr. Robin=C2=A0Marx</td></tr><tr><td style=3D"font=
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e for Digital Media</td></tr><tr><td>=C2=A0</td></tr><tr><td style=3D"font-=
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pan style=3D"color:#e73b2b;font-weight:bold">GSM</span> +32(0)497 72 86 94 =
</td></tr><tr><td>=C2=A0</td></tr><tr><td style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Gene=
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ww.uhasselt.be</span></a></td></tr><tr><td style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Gen=
eva,sans-serif">Universiteit Hasselt  -  Campus Diepenbeek</td></tr><tr><td=
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3590 Diepenbeek</td></tr><tr><td style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-s=
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Hi Folks,

Thanks to the ADs and the Chairs, we are going to present APN (Application-=
aware Networking) in the SAAG working group at 13:00-15:00 (UTC+1) Thursday=
.

APN is focused on developing a framework and set of mechanisms to derive, c=
onvey and use an attribute information to allow for the implementation of f=
ine-grain user (group)-, application (group)-, and service-level requiremen=
ts at the network layer. APN works within a limited trusted domain, which t=
ypically is defined as a service provider's limited domain in which MPLS, V=
XLAN, SR/SRv6 and other tunnel technologies are adopted to provide services=
.

In the presentation, we would like to introduce the concepts, clarify the s=
cope, attract people to understand and discuss the topic, and collect feedb=
ack and suggestions on this work, to further address the main concerns that=
 were raised by the IESG.

For the SECers, we would like to especially know about what the security is=
sues are when the APN attribute is used within a limited operator's control=
led domain.

Please find the latest version of the key draft, clarifying the scope and t=
he gap analysis.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-01

We have been discussing in the APN mailing list regarding the various aspec=
ts of APN. If you have not subscribed, you are very welcome to subscribe. Y=
ou can also find the archived discussions.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/apn/about/

More information about APN can be found here.
https://github.com/APN-Community

Best Regards,
Shuping



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks to the ADs and the Chair=
s, we are going to present APN (Application-aware Networking) in the SAAG w=
orking group at 13:00-15:00 (UTC&#43;1) Thursday.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">APN is focused on developing a =
framework and set of mechanisms to derive, convey and use an attribute info=
rmation to allow for the implementation of fine-grain user (group)-, applic=
ation (group)-, and service-level requirements
 at the network layer. APN works within a limited trusted domain, which typ=
ically is defined as a service provider&#8217;s limited domain in which MPL=
S, VXLAN, SR/SRv6 and other tunnel technologies are adopted to provide serv=
ices.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In the presentation, we would l=
ike to introduce the concepts, clarify the scope, attract people to underst=
and and discuss the topic, and collect feedback and suggestions on this wor=
k, to further address the main concerns
 that were raised by the IESG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">For the SECers, we would lik=
e to especially know about what the security issues are when the APN attrib=
ute is used within a limited operator&#8217;s controlled domain.
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please find the latest version =
of the key draft, clarifying the scope and the gap analysis.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-01">https://datatracker=
.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-01</a><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We have been discussing in the =
APN mailing list regarding the various aspects of APN. If you have not subs=
cribed, you are very welcome to subscribe. You can also find the archived d=
iscussions. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/wg/apn/about/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/apn/about/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">More information about APN can =
be found here.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://github.com/A=
PN-Community">https://github.com/APN-Community</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best Regards, <o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Shuping<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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IPsecME met in the first Monday session and we had busy agenda
covering some old items and some things coming back, and few new items
too.

The working group status [1] has been updated as follows:
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IPv6 and IPv4 status codes draft was published as RFC8983.
Intermediate and iptfs drafts are past WGLC. Labeled IPsec and
Multiple Key Exchanges drafts are going to start WGLC soon. Group Key
Management using IKEv2 would need to get few more reviews before WGLC.  

Iptfs Yang model draft and RFC8229bis has been adopted as working
group drafts. Iptfs MIB and IKEv1 graveyard drafts are currently in
the process of being adopted as working group drafts. 

New work includes IKEv2 configuration for Encrypted DNS, Optional SA &
TS Payload in Child Exchange. There has also been some discussion
about modifying the base IKEv2 payload format, both to make it more
compact for constrained devices, and allow it to go over 64kB payload
limit.
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[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/ipsecme/about/status/
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kitten did not meet.

We have issued WGLC for tls-channel-bindings-for-tls13 (and looped in
the TLS wg as well):
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-kitten-tls-channel-bindings-for-tls13/

We are still looking for an editor to address AD feedback for
sasl-saml-ec:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-saml-ec/

More reviews are needed on password-storage and gss-sanon:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-kitten-password-storage/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-kitten-gss-sanon/

Thanks,
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We have one document being worked on still, rfc6962bis.

It has two DISCUSS items open and a bunch of COMMENTS.

Rich Salz just gave us text for the DISCUSS items a few days ago, which
now has to go through the WG . Then we plan to tackle the COMMENTS,
and do a WGLC.

Then we plan to close down the WG, unless before that time some people
actively work on the documents stalled. But that seems very unlikely.

Paul & Melinda


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ACE meets on Friday

ACE has a new co-chair!

Publication queue
  * draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

sent to the IESG telechat:
  * draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz
  * draft-ietf-ace-oauth-params
  * draft-ietf-ace-oscore-profile
  * draft-ietf-ace-dtls-authorize

AD review
  * draft-ietf-ace-mqtt-tls-profile

* WGLC
  * draft-ietf-ace-aif

* New adopted drafts:
  * draft-ietf-ace-cmpv2-coap-transport
  * draft-ietf-ace-wg-coap-eap

* WG documents
  * draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm
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  * draft-ietf-ace-oscore-gm-admin<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-i=
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  * draft-ietf-ace-pubsub-profile

________________________________
From: saag <saag-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Salz, Rich <rsalz=3D40akama=
i.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:53 PM
To: saag <saag@ietf.org>
Subject: [saag] ACME report for SAAG

(To the right list this time)

    ACME met Tuesday morning.

    We have many documents in post-WG status:
         draft-ietf-acme-email-smime in RFC pipeline
         draft-ietf-acme-star-delegation IETF last call
         draft-ietf-acme-authority-token waiting for IESG review
         draft-ietf-acme-authority-token-tnauthlist update just submitted, =
waiting for AD review
    Two are about to enter WGLC, but need more people to review:
         draft-ietf-acme-dtn-node
         draft-ietf-acme-integration
    One will go into WG adoption after the WGLC above
         draft-acme-frield-subdomains

    The WG will need a new co-chair as I am stepping down; interested folks=
 (particular potential first-timers in my personal opinion), should contact=
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<div>&nbsp; * draft-ietf-ace-coap-est</div>
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<div>sent to the IESG telechat:</div>
<div>&nbsp; * draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz</div>
<div>&nbsp; * draft-ietf-ace-oauth-params</div>
<div>&nbsp; * draft-ietf-ace-oscore-profile</div>
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<div>&nbsp; * draft-ietf-ace-mqtt-tls-profile</div>
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<div>* WGLC </div>
<div>&nbsp; * draft-ietf-ace-aif</div>
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<div>&nbsp; * draft-ietf-ace-cmpv2-coap-transport</div>
<div>&nbsp; * draft-ietf-ace-wg-coap-eap</div>
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<div>&nbsp; * draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:53 PM<br>
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<div class=3D"PlainText">(To the right list this time)<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ACME met Tuesday morning.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We have many documents in post-WG status:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-ietf-acme-email-smim=
e in RFC pipeline<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-ietf-acme-star-deleg=
ation IETF last call<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-ietf-acme-authority-=
token waiting for IESG review<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-ietf-acme-authority-=
token-tnauthlist update just submitted, waiting for AD review<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Two are about to enter WGLC, but need more people to rev=
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-ietf-acme-dtn-node<b=
r>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-ietf-acme-integratio=
n<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; One will go into WG adoption after the WGLC above<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-acme-frield-subdomai=
ns<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The WG will need a new co-chair as I am stepping down; i=
nterested folks (particular potential first-timers in my personal opinion),=
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<br>
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Drone Remote Identity Protocol (DRIP) is not in the security area but has s=
ome security interests.

WGLC
draft-ietf-drip-arch-11
draft-ietf-drip-reqs-09

the requirement document is close to be done, the architecture document nee=
ds to address some concerns, but there are no major issues, so it is expect=
ed to be moved forward in april.

WG documents
draft-ietf-drip-auth-00
draft-ietf-drip-rid-07

DRIP also has two independent implementations. (check session material for =
more information - or contact the mailing list)

Yours,
Daniel

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The COSE Working Group meets Friday Session II (03-12 at 15:30 CET).

The Working Group will be discussing outstanding issues with
-cose-x509, CBOR encodings for certificates, and IANA registration
policies.  The Working Group will be welcoming a new co-chair and
bidding adieu to a current co-chair.

A recharter was submitted to IESG.

Documents with the RFC Editor:
* draft-ietf-cose-rfc8152bis-struct
* draft-ietf-cose-rfc8152bis-algs
* draft-ietf-cose-hash-algs

Documents awaiting revision from IETF LC feedback:
* draft-ietf-cose-x509

Documents about to be submitted to IESG:
* draft-ietf-cose-countersign

Documents pending adoption:
* draft-mattsson-cose-cbor-cert-compress


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UTA WG didn't meet at IETF 110.

We have 3 working documents:
- draft-ietf-uta-tls-for-email is in the AUTH48-DONE state, so it'll become
RFC 8996 soon
- draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis has some progress and authors indicated that
they are going to update it soon
- draft-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile has been discussed a bit on the ML, but
more discussions are needed

Leif & Valery


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DOTS WG didn't meet at IETF110.

Since last IETF a new RFC has been published: RFC8973 (DDoS Open Threat
Signaling (DOTS) Agent Discovery)

We have 7 working group documents:
1. draft-ietf-dots-use-cases-25  is in the AUTH48 state for quite a long
time waiting for authors' approvals;
    recently one of the two remaining approvals has been received, so
hopefully the draft will be published soon as RFC 8903
2. draft-ietf-dots-signal-filter-control-07  is in the RFC Editor queue
waiting for missing normative reference to draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis 
3. draft-ietf-dots-signal-call-home-13  got stuck in the IESG evaluation
state: it failed to get enough ballots to pass, although all DISCUSSes were
cleared;
    we hope that new IESG members will act upon this situation
4. draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-04 has been submitted to IESG and is in IETF
LC state now 
5. draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-15  has been submitted to IESG
6. draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases  was adopted in September and has
some progress since then, but more discussions are needed
7. draft-ietf-dots-multihoming  is still waiting for more discussions

Regards,
Frank & Valery


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CFRG meets on Friday at Session I.

The Research Group will be discussing outstanding issues with the following
drafts:
* draft-irtf-cfrg-kangarootwelve
* draft-irtf-cfrg-cpace
* draft-irtf-cfrg-opaque
* draft-irtf-cfrg-voprf
* draft-irtf-cfrg-frost

We have several agenda items related to possible new work in CFRG:
* RSA blind signatures
* Key committing AEAD
* VOPRF with public metadata

Documents in IESG review:
* draft-irtf-cfrg-argon2 (waiting for the authors to address several minor
issues after IETF conflict review)

Waiting for IRTF Chair:
* draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke

Active CFRG drafts:
* draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2
* draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve
* draft-irtf-cfrg-vrf
* draft-irtf-cfrg-kangarootwelve
* draft-irtf-cfrg-voprf
* draft-irtf-cfrg-bls-signature
* draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
* draft-irtf-cfrg-ristretto255-decaf448
* draft-irtf-cfrg-aead-limits
* draft-irtf-cfrg-opaque
* draft-irtf-cfrg-cpace
* draft-irtf-cfrg-frost

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The LAKE WG met on Tuesday. Progress is progressing.

Given the likely time required for formal verification
and other work we set the WG's main milestone to
March 2022 for requesting publication of an EDHOC
protocol spec.

We had useful reports on interop and verification work
that are both ongoing and considered some of the issues
being tracked on the main spec.

There'll likely be an interim meeting or two between
now and IETF-111 to further progress issues.

Cheers,
Stephen&Mali=C5=A1a.


[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/materials/agenda-110-lake-15=


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MLS meet Monday, March 8th from 15:30 to 16:30 UTC.

A new version of MLS Architecture I-D was on Monday. Many updates were =
made, but more are needed to ensure alignment with the MLS Protocol I-D =
[2].

The MLS Protocol I-D has completed its first WGLC in November 2020 and =
has been in a feature freeze to allow for security analysis and =
implementation experience.

Initial reviews seem to indicate, with all of the appropriate caveats, =
that the protocol is offering the advertised services [3]. There are =
multiple independent sets of security researchers.

The WG will consider a concrete proposal for an optional service that =
provides deniability [4].

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mls-architecture/
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mls-protocol/
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There is now an automated TLS interoperability site, heavily influenced =
by the QUIC interoperability site. It us up and running. Get your =
implementations in now! [1].

ECH is still a thing, getting implementation experience [2]. Will =
schedule a meeting in the coming weeks to continue discussions.

8446bis is moving along [3]. There are few open issues open to resolve =
that will result in another revision. Once issue that will be moved to =
an 8447bis is the idea of adding more nuance to the definition of the =
=E2=80=9Crecommended=E2=80=9D column.

TLS Proof of Knowledge needs some work [4].

Deprecating FFDHE cipher suite is under considerations [5]. The =
subtleties will be discussed on the list.

Opaque with TLS, which based on a CFRG I-D, was also discussed. The =
intent is to combine password-based authentication with traditional =
PKI-based authentication.

[1] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/materials/slides-110-tls-tls-inte=
rop-runner-00
[2] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/materials/slides-110-tls-encrypte=
d-client-hello-00
[3] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/materials/slides-110-tls-rfc-8446=
bis-00
[4] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/materials/slides-110-tls-tls-proo=
f-of-knowledge-01
[5] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/materials/slides-110-tls-deprecat=
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    Hi Shuping,<br>
    <br>
    Thank you for the presentation in saag today, a couple of follow up
    questions;<br>
    <ul>
      <li>What type of user identifying information is included in the
        implementation of 'fine-grain user' and 'application' groups?</li=
>
      <li>How is the mapping of '5-tuple to SLA/policy' generated? How
        would a CPE treat an application whose 5-tuple information is
        not included/defined in the APN attribute? <br>
      </li>
    </ul>
    <p>Thank you,<br>
    </p>
    <pre class=3D"moz-signature" cols=3D"72">--
Joey Salazar
Digital Sr. Programme Officer
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 10-Mar-21 8:46 AM, Pengshuping (Pen=
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi Folks, <o:p></o:p>=
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>=
</p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks to the ADs and=

            the Chairs, we are going to present APN (Application-aware
            Networking) in the SAAG working group at 13:00-15:00 (UTC+1)
            Thursday.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>=
</p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">APN is focused on
            developing a framework and set of mechanisms to derive,
            convey and use an attribute information to allow for the
            implementation of fine-grain user (group)-, application
            (group)-, and service-level requirements at the network
            layer. APN works within a limited trusted domain, which
            typically is defined as a service provider=92s limited domain=

            in which MPLS, VXLAN, SR/SRv6 and other tunnel technologies
            are adopted to provide services.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>=
</p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In the presentation, =
we
            would like to introduce the concepts, clarify the scope,
            attract people to understand and discuss the topic, and
            collect feedback and suggestions on this work, to further
            address the main concerns that were raised by the IESG.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>=
</p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">For the SECers, we=

              would like to especially know about what the security
              issues are when the APN attribute is used within a limited
              operator=92s controlled domain.
              <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>=
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please find the lates=
t
            version of the key draft, clarifying the scope and the gap
            analysis.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-an=
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>=
</p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We have been discussi=
ng
            in the APN mailing list regarding the various aspects of
            APN. If you have not subscribed, you are very welcome to
            subscribe. You can also find the archived discussions. =A0<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a
              href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/apn/about/"
              moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ap=
n/about/</a>
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>=
</p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">More information abou=
t
            APN can be found here.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a
              href=3D"https://github.com/APN-Community"
              moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://github.com/APN-Community</=
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            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>=
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best Regards, <o:p></=
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Shuping<o:p></o:p></s=
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>=
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>=
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Hi Joey,

Thank you for your questions. Please find in line below.

From: Joey S [mailto:joeysalazar@article19.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:52 PM
To: Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) <pengshuping@huawei.com>
Cc: apn@ietf.org; saag@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Apn] APN presentation in SAAG on Thursday.

Hi Shuping,

Thank you for the presentation in saag today, a couple of follow up questio=
ns;

  *   What type of user identifying information is included in the implemen=
tation of 'fine-grain user' and 'application' groups?
APN is not about identifying either the particular user or application. It =
is about applying policies on the differentiated traffic flow based on the =
APN attribute information in the various nodes/service functions along the =
path more efficiently. For identifying the user group the access port on th=
e network edge devices could be used by the network operators such as VLAN =
ID or QinQ.
The attribute is an opaque value and just a bit string against which the po=
licies are applied within the network. No need to say who the user is and w=
hat the application is. Those type of information is not useful for the pol=
icy enforcement on the network nodes either.

  *   How is the mapping of '5-tuple to SLA/policy' generated?
This mapping can be generated by the configuration or the controller.
How would a CPE treat an application whose 5-tuple information is not inclu=
ded/defined in the APN attribute?
CPE is the network device which tags the APN attribute. On this network edg=
e device, the information already in the packet header such as 5-tuple can =
be used to generate the APN attribute.
Best regards,
Shuping

Thank you,

--

Joey Salazar

Digital Sr. Programme Officer

ARTICLE 19

6E9C 95E5 5BED 9413 5D08 55D5 0A40 4136 0DF0 1A91
On 10-Mar-21 8:46 AM, Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) wrote:
Hi Folks,

Thanks to the ADs and the Chairs, we are going to present APN (Application-=
aware Networking) in the SAAG working group at 13:00-15:00 (UTC+1) Thursday=
.

APN is focused on developing a framework and set of mechanisms to derive, c=
onvey and use an attribute information to allow for the implementation of f=
ine-grain user (group)-, application (group)-, and service-level requiremen=
ts at the network layer. APN works within a limited trusted domain, which t=
ypically is defined as a service provider's limited domain in which MPLS, V=
XLAN, SR/SRv6 and other tunnel technologies are adopted to provide services=
.

In the presentation, we would like to introduce the concepts, clarify the s=
cope, attract people to understand and discuss the topic, and collect feedb=
ack and suggestions on this work, to further address the main concerns that=
 were raised by the IESG.

For the SECers, we would like to especially know about what the security is=
sues are when the APN attribute is used within a limited operator's control=
led domain.

Please find the latest version of the key draft, clarifying the scope and t=
he gap analysis.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-01

We have been discussing in the APN mailing list regarding the various aspec=
ts of APN. If you have not subscribed, you are very welcome to subscribe. Y=
ou can also find the archived discussions.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/apn/about/

More information about APN can be found here.
https://github.com/APN-Community

Best Regards,
Shuping






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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi Joey=
, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thank y=
ou for your questions. Please find in line below.
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><b><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"> Joey S [mailto:joeysalazar@article19.org]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) &lt;pengshuping@huawei.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> apn@ietf.org; saag@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Apn] APN presentation in SAAG on Thursday.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">Hi Shuping,<br>
<br>
Thank you for the presentation in saag today, a couple of follow up questio=
ns;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang=3D"EN-US">What type of user identifying information is included =
in the implementation of 'fine-grain user' and 'application' groups?<o:p></=
o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">APN is not about iden=
tifying either the particular user or application. It is about applying pol=
icies on the differentiated traffic flow
 based on the APN attribute information in the various nodes/service functi=
ons along the path more efficiently. For identifying the user group the acc=
ess port on the network edge devices could be used by the network operators=
 such as VLAN ID or QinQ.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The attribute is an o=
paque value and just a bit string against which the policies are applied wi=
thin the network. No need to say who the
 user is and what the application is. Those type of information is not usef=
ul for the policy enforcement on the network nodes either.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span lang=3D"EN-US">How is the mapping of '5-tuple to SLA/policy' generate=
d? <o:p>
</o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">This mapping can be g=
enerated by the configuration or the controller.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt">
<span lang=3D"EN-US">How would a CPE treat an application whose 5-tuple inf=
ormation is not included/defined in the APN attribute?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">CPE is the network de=
vice which tags the APN attribute. On this network edge device, the informa=
tion already in the packet header such as
 5-tuple can be used to generate the APN attribute.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Best re=
gards, <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Shuping=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US">--<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US">Joey Salazar<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US">Digital Sr. Programme Officer<o:p></o:p></span></=
pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US">ARTICLE 19<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US">6E9C 95E5 5BED 9413 5D08 55D5 0A40 4136 0DF0 1A91=
<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On 10-Mar-21 8:46 AM, Pengshupi=
ng (Peng Shuping) wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi Folks, <o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks to the ADs and the Chair=
s, we are going to present APN (Application-aware Networking) in the SAAG w=
orking group at 13:00-15:00 (UTC&#43;1) Thursday.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">APN is focused on developing a =
framework and set of mechanisms to derive, convey and use an attribute info=
rmation to allow for the implementation of fine-grain user (group)-, applic=
ation (group)-, and service-level requirements
 at the network layer. APN works within a limited trusted domain, which typ=
ically is defined as a service provider&#8217;s limited domain in which MPL=
S, VXLAN, SR/SRv6 and other tunnel technologies are adopted to provide serv=
ices.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In the presentation, we would l=
ike to introduce the concepts, clarify the scope, attract people to underst=
and and discuss the topic, and collect feedback and suggestions on this wor=
k, to further address the main concerns
 that were raised by the IESG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">For the SECers, we would lik=
e to especially know about what the security issues are when the APN attrib=
ute is used within a limited operator&#8217;s controlled domain.
</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please find the latest version =
of the key draft, clarifying the scope and the gap analysis.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-01">https://datatracker=
.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-01</a><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We have been discussing in the =
APN mailing list regarding the various aspects of APN. If you have not subs=
cribed, you are very welcome to subscribe. You can also find the archived d=
iscussions. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/wg/apn/about/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/apn/about/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">More information about APN can =
be found here.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://github.com/A=
PN-Community">https://github.com/APN-Community</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best Regards, <o:p></o:p></span=
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SUIT

The SUIT Architecture (draft-ietf-suit-architecture) is with the RFC =
Editor.

SUIT Information Model (draft-ietf-suit-information-model).  During IESG =
Evaluation, three issues were raised that need highlighted.  First, UUID =
is used because it is fixed length, which makes decice handling very =
straightforward.  In addition, other fields provide human-readable text =
where that is appropriate.  Second, more details about delegation from =
one signer to another needs to be added to the document, but not the =
full details that are in the SUIT Manifest document.  Third, =
requirements for secure time source for experation of manifest need more =
explanation.
=20
SUIT Manifest Format (draft-ietf-suit-manifest). The TEEP WG requested =
the ability to delete a component, which can lead to dependency =
problems. A garbage collection mechanism to remove unreferenced =
components will be provided instead.End up with broken system easily. =
Two approaches to encryption of firmware were discussed: one that uses a =
key-encryption key to distribute the content-encryption key, and another =
that uses ECDH Ephemeral-Static to establish the key-encryption key.  =
=46rom the discussion is is fairly clear that algorithm profiles for =
SUIT Manifests will be needed.  To get the base protocol specification =
done, these profiles and examples will be put in other documents.

Other presentations were on the agenda, but the group ran out of time, =
so an virtual interim will be scheduled in a few weeks.


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Name:           draft-foudil-securitytxt
Revision:       11
Title:          A File Format to Aid in Security Vulnerability Disclosure
Document date:  2021-03-11
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          26
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-foudil-securitytxt-11.txt
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Abstract:
   When security vulnerabilities are discovered by researchers, proper
   reporting channels are often lacking.  As a result, vulnerabilities
   may be left unreported.  This document defines a format
   ("security.txt") to help organizations describe their vulnerability
   disclosure practices to make it easier for researchers to report
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STIR Certificate Delegation (draft-ietf-stir-cert-delegation):  The =
document is with the IESG, and a recent revision was posted to address =
issues raised by IESG Evaluation.  No one raised concerns with the =
changes.

PASSporT Extension for Rich Call Data (draft-ietf-stir-passport-rcd): =
Several concerns were raised during WG Last Call, and the document was =
revise to address them.  A hash value provides integrity for the whole =
jCard structure, and then for each URL in the structure, JSON =
pointer-like syntax is used to provide a hash value of the object that =
the URL will return.  This is a significant change, so WG Last Call will =
be repeated.

Out-of-Band STIR for Service Providers =
(draft-ietf-stir-servprovider-oob): A quick status was provided.  More =
work is needed to get the document in shape for WG Last Call.

Enhanced JWT Claim Constraints for STIR Certificates =
(draft-ietf-stir-enhance-rfc8226): The enhancements are straightforward, =
and the document is ready for WG Last Call.

 Messaging Use Cases and Extensions for STIR =
(draft-peterson-stir-messaging): There was a lot of interest in =
providing PASSporT authentication for the source of a text message.  To =
provide integrity of the messages, a MIME-level security mechanism will =
be used.  When TLS is used, it provides hop-by-hop integrity, but the =
MILE-level protection will be end-to-end.

Connected Identity for STIR (draft-peterson-stir-rfc4916-update):  A =
re-charter will be needed to take on this work, which will provide a =
PASSpporT for the number that a call reached.  With call forwarding and =
other mechanisms that can redirect a call, this is a very attractive =
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S/MIME header protection (draft-ietf-lamps-header-protection):  The way =
that messages that include header protection are displayed by existing =
implementations a concern, and DKG asked for assistance gather this =
information, especially for mail clients that are not freely available.  =
One of the example messages is showing as an invalid signature, and DKG =
asked for assistance in finding our why that is the case.  The examples =
are available at https://header-protection.cmrg.net/.

Three CMP-related documents: CMP Algorithms =
(draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-algorithms), CMP Updates =
(draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-updates), and Lightweight CMP Profile =
(draft-ietf-lamps-lightweight-cmp-profile): The role of the Registration =
Authority (RA) was discussed briefly, with a focus on when the =
certificate needed to include the id-kp-cmcRA from RFC 6402.

Guidance on End-to-End E-mail Security =
(draft-dkg-lamps-e2e-mail-guidance):  The LAMPS WG needs to re-charter =
to progress this work.

Verification-Friendly ECDSA =
(draft-struik-lamps-verification-friendly-ecdsa):  A speed-up for ECDSA =
was described.  If the verifier knows that the speed-up was used, they =
get a benefit.  If the verifier is unaware of the speed-up, the usual =
technique will still validate the signature. A new algorithm identifier =
would mean that verifiers would treat it as an unknown algorithm, even =
though the signature validation would work using the slower, existing =
technique.  A non-critical certificate extension could provide an =
indication that the speed-up is available, this would be ignored by =
implementation that do not support the speed-up, and they would still be =
able to validate the signature.  There was some concern around patents, =
and it seems that all of them will expire in the next four years.  It is =
expected that it will take more than four years to complete the =
specification ad get real deployment.  Other people question whether it =
is worth a speed-up for ECDSA when post-quantum algorithms are going to =
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"Operational Security Considerations fro IPv6 Networks" seems like
something that might be of interest to folks here...

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>    4942 describes the security issues in the protocol, but network
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On Thu 2021-03-11 12:00:13 +0000, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/materials/agenda-110-openpgp-02

We met!

We discussed attacks against secret key material that are facilitated by
corruption of the associated public keys.  This is research work by
Bruseghini, Paterson, and Huigens.

We also had a presentation of the OpenPGP Interoperability Test Suite by
Winter, identifying places where interoperability is solid, and places
where more guidance is likely to be needed.  See
https://tests.sequoia-pgp.org/ for more detail from this ongoing
project.

Finally, Niibe presented some of the historical warts of ECC wire
representation within OpenPGP, and proposed an argument for a
normalization of ECC representation for future curves, including CFRG's
"heavy-duty" curve Curve448.

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The DANISH BOF (non-WG forming) was a well attended (~100) BOF with
many participants agreeing that the problem space of using DANE with
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generally agreed that 2 of the 3 starting solutions were good items to
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For those that want to join the discussion about starting the WG and
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