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Hi,

We felt that there was no comprehensive and up to date overview of quantum-=
resistant cryptography and decided to write one. How quantum technology wil=
l affect security is an area full of snakeoil. We hope this is of interest.=
 Comments welcome.

The full 40-page report can be found on arXiv:
"Quantum-Resistant Cryptography"
https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399

A shorter summary of the report can be found in Ericsson Technology Review:
"Quantum technology and its impact on security in mobile networks"
https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/ericsson-technology-review/a=
rticles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-networks-post-quantum
Cheers,
John

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We felt that there was no <span lang=3D"EN-US">compr=
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</span>up to date overview of quantum-resistant cryptography and decided to=
 write one. How quantum technology will affect security is an area full of =
snakeoil. We hope this is of interest. Comments welcome.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The full 40-page report can be found on arXiv:<o:p><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;Quantum-Resistant Cryptography&quot;<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">A shorter summary of the report can be found in Eric=
sson Technology Review:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;Quantum technology and its impact on security =
in mobile networks&quot;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/erics=
son-technology-review/articles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-networks-post-qu=
antum<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">John</p>
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This is really useful. Thanks for posting it!

-Ekr

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 1:16 AM John Mattsson <john.mattsson=
40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> We felt that there was no comprehensive and up to date overview of
> quantum-resistant cryptography and decided to write one. How quantum
> technology will affect security is an area full of snakeoil. We hope this
> is of interest. Comments welcome.
>
>
>
> The full 40-page report can be found on arXiv:
>
> "Quantum-Resistant Cryptography"
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399
>
>
>
> A shorter summary of the report can be found in Ericsson Technology Review:
>
> "Quantum technology and its impact on security in mobile networks"
>
>
> https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/ericsson-technology-review/articles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-networks-post-quantum
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>This is really useful. Thanks for posting it!</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>-Ekr<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 1:16 AM John Mattsso=
n &lt;john.mattsson=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org">40er=
icsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
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<div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang=3D"en-SE">
<div class=3D"gmail-m_3740340053606513762WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We felt that there was no <span lang=3D"EN-US">compr=
ehensive and
</span>up to date overview of quantum-resistant cryptography and decided to=
 write one. How quantum technology will affect security is an area full of =
snakeoil. We hope this is of interest. Comments welcome.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The full 40-page report can be found on arXiv:<u></u=
><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;Quantum-Resistant Cryptography&quot;<u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399" target=
=3D"_blank">https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">A shorter summary of the report can be found in Eric=
sson Technology Review:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;Quantum technology and its impact on security =
in mobile networks&quot;<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-p=
apers/ericsson-technology-review/articles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-netwo=
rks-post-quantum" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and=
-papers/ericsson-technology-review/articles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-net=
works-post-quantum</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">John</p>
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+1

Thanks!

Best regards,

JMC.

Le mer. 8 d=C3=A9c. 2021 =C3=A0 19:19, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> a =C3=
=A9crit :

> This is really useful. Thanks for posting it!
>
> -Ekr
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 1:16 AM John Mattsson <john.mattsson=3D
> 40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> We felt that there was no comprehensive and up to date overview of
>> quantum-resistant cryptography and decided to write one. How quantum
>> technology will affect security is an area full of snakeoil. We hope thi=
s
>> is of interest. Comments welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> The full 40-page report can be found on arXiv:
>>
>> "Quantum-Resistant Cryptography"
>>
>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399
>>
>>
>>
>> A shorter summary of the report can be found in Ericsson Technology
>> Review:
>>
>> "Quantum technology and its impact on security in mobile networks"
>>
>>
>> https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/ericsson-technology-revie=
w/articles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-networks-post-quantum
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>> _______________________________________________
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>> CFRG@irtf.org
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>JMC.<br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0mer. 8=
 d=C3=A9c. 2021 =C3=A0=C2=A019:19, Eric Rescorla &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ekr@=
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ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>This is really use=
ful. Thanks for posting it!</div><div><br></div><div>-Ekr<br></div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, =
Dec 8, 2021 at 1:16 AM John Mattsson &lt;john.mattsson=3D<a href=3D"mailto:=
40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.=
org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x">





<div lang=3D"en-SE">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We felt that there was no <span lang=3D"EN-US">compr=
ehensive and
</span>up to date overview of quantum-resistant cryptography and decided to=
 write one. How quantum technology will affect security is an area full of =
snakeoil. We hope this is of interest. Comments welcome.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The full 40-page report can be found on arXiv:<u></u=
><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;Quantum-Resistant Cryptography&quot;<u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399" target=
=3D"_blank">https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">A shorter summary of the report can be found in Eric=
sson Technology Review:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;Quantum technology and its impact on security =
in mobile networks&quot;<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-p=
apers/ericsson-technology-review/articles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-netwo=
rks-post-quantum" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and=
-papers/ericsson-technology-review/articles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-net=
works-post-quantum</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">John</p>
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Hi John,

Thanks for sharing these; I found the paper a really clear and comprehensiv=
e overview of a complex topic.  I particularly like the way that it roots t=
he academic topics in the real world, looking at the developments in post-q=
uantum cryptography and quantum computing alongside the realities of the ti=
melines and the systems we are trying to secure.  The tables comparing the =
performance of the KEMs and signatures in round 3 of the NIST post-quantum =
process will be useful references for matching up NIST algorithms with appl=
ications and protocols.

People in this group might also be interested in two technical reports whic=
h were recently published by ETSI QSC (Quantum Safe Cryptography):

  *   TR 103 616 "Quantum-Safe Signatures" https://www.etsi.org/deliver/ets=
i_tr/103600_103699/103616/01.01.01_60/tr_103616v010101p.pdf
  *   TR 103 823 "Quantum-Safe Public Key Encryption and Key Encapsulation"=
 https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/103800_103899/103823/01.01.01_60/tr_1=
03823v010101p.pdf
These reports make a good next step after the Ericsson paper.  They aim to =
give concise descriptions of the schemes remaining in the NIST process, usi=
ng a consistent notation to help readers understand the similarities and di=
fferences between them.

Flo
UK National Cyber Security Centre

From: saag <saag-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of John Mattsson
Sent: 08 December 2021 09:16
To: saag <saag@ietf.org>; IRTF CFRG <cfrg@irtf.org>; qirg@irtf.org
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Hi,

We felt that there was no comprehensive and up to date overview of quantum-=
resistant cryptography and decided to write one. How quantum technology wil=
l affect security is an area full of snakeoil. We hope this is of interest.=
 Comments welcome.

The full 40-page report can be found on arXiv:
"Quantum-Resistant Cryptography"
https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399

A shorter summary of the report can be found in Ericsson Technology Review:
"Quantum technology and its impact on security in mobile networks"
https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/ericsson-technology-review/a=
rticles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-networks-post-quantum

Cheers,
John
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi John,<br>
<br>
Thanks for sharing these;&nbsp;I found the paper a really clear and compreh=
ensive overview of a complex topic.&nbsp; I particularly like the way that =
it roots the academic topics in the real world, looking at the developments=
 in post-quantum cryptography and quantum
 computing alongside the realities of the timelines and the systems we are =
trying to secure.&nbsp; The tables comparing the performance of the KEMs an=
d signatures in round 3 of the NIST post-quantum process will be useful ref=
erences for matching up NIST algorithms
 with applications and protocols.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">People in this group might also be interested in two=
 technical reports which were recently published by ETSI QSC (Quantum Safe =
Cryptography):<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo1">TR 103 616 &quot;Quantum-Safe Signatures&quot;
<a href=3D"https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/103600_103699/103616/01.01.=
01_60/tr_103616v010101p.pdf">
https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/103600_103699/103616/01.01.01_60/tr_10=
3616v010101p.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D=
"margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">TR 103 823 &#8220;Quantum-Safe Pu=
blic Key Encryption and Key Encapsulation&#8221;
<a href=3D"https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/103800_103899/103823/01.01.=
01_60/tr_103823v010101p.pdf">
https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/103800_103899/103823/01.01.01_60/tr_10=
3823v010101p.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">These reports make a good next step after the Ericss=
on paper.&nbsp; They aim to give concise descriptions of the schemes remain=
ing in the NIST process, using a consistent notation to help readers unders=
tand the similarities and differences between
 them.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Flo<br>
UK National Cyber Security Centre<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-languag=
e:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language=
:EN-GB"> saag &lt;saag-bounces@ietf.org&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Mattsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 December 2021 09:16<br>
<b>To:</b> saag &lt;saag@ietf.org&gt;; IRTF CFRG &lt;cfrg@irtf.org&gt;; qir=
g@irtf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [saag] Overview of Quantum-Resistant Cryptography<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We felt that there was no <span lang=3D"EN-US">compr=
ehensive and
</span>up to date overview of quantum-resistant cryptography and decided to=
 write one. How quantum technology will affect security is an area full of =
snakeoil. We hope this is of interest. Comments welcome.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The full 40-page report can be found on arXiv:<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;Quantum-Resistant Cryptography&quot;<o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">A shorter summary of the report can be found in Eric=
sson Technology Review:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;Quantum technology and its impact on security =
in mobile networks&quot;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/erics=
son-technology-review/articles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-networks-post-qu=
antum<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">John<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">This info=
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be exempt under other UK information legislation. Refer any FOIA queries to=
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Thanks for sharing, John & Flo.

FWIW we have also published a whitepaper on this topic and you can find it =
here:
https://community.arm.com/arm-research/m/resources/1002

Ciao
Hannes

From: saag <saag-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Florence D
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 2:41 PM
To: John Mattsson <john.mattsson=3D40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; saag <sa=
ag@ietf.org>; IRTF CFRG <cfrg@irtf.org>; qirg@irtf.org
Subject: Re: [saag] Overview of Quantum-Resistant Cryptography

Hi John,

Thanks for sharing these; I found the paper a really clear and comprehensiv=
e overview of a complex topic.  I particularly like the way that it roots t=
he academic topics in the real world, looking at the developments in post-q=
uantum cryptography and quantum computing alongside the realities of the ti=
melines and the systems we are trying to secure.  The tables comparing the =
performance of the KEMs and signatures in round 3 of the NIST post-quantum =
process will be useful references for matching up NIST algorithms with appl=
ications and protocols.

People in this group might also be interested in two technical reports whic=
h were recently published by ETSI QSC (Quantum Safe Cryptography):

  *   TR 103 616 "Quantum-Safe Signatures" https://www.etsi.org/deliver/ets=
i_tr/103600_103699/103616/01.01.01_60/tr_103616v010101p.pdf
  *   TR 103 823 "Quantum-Safe Public Key Encryption and Key Encapsulation"=
 https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/103800_103899/103823/01.01.01_60/tr_1=
03823v010101p.pdf
These reports make a good next step after the Ericsson paper.  They aim to =
give concise descriptions of the schemes remaining in the NIST process, usi=
ng a consistent notation to help readers understand the similarities and di=
fferences between them.

Flo
UK National Cyber Security Centre

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We felt that there was no comprehensive and up to date overview of quantum-=
resistant cryptography and decided to write one. How quantum technology wil=
l affect security is an area full of snakeoil. We hope this is of interest.=
 Comments welcome.

The full 40-page report can be found on arXiv:
"Quantum-Resistant Cryptography"
https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399

A shorter summary of the report can be found in Ericsson Technology Review:
"Quantum technology and its impact on security in mobile networks"
https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/ericsson-technology-review/a=
rticles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-networks-post-quantum

Cheers,
John
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Thanks fo=
r sharing, John &amp; Flo.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">FWIW we h=
ave also published a whitepaper on this topic and you can find it here:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><a href=
=3D"https://community.arm.com/arm-research/m/resources/1002">https://commun=
ity.arm.com/arm-research/m/resources/1002</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Ciao<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Hannes<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:<=
/span></b><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> saag &lt;saag-bounces=
@ietf.org&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Florence D<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 13, 2021 2:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Mattsson &lt;john.mattsson=3D40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org&=
gt;; saag &lt;saag@ietf.org&gt;; IRTF CFRG &lt;cfrg@irtf.org&gt;; qirg@irtf=
.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [saag] Overview of Quantum-Resistant Cryptography<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hi John,<br>
<br>
Thanks for sharing these;&nbsp;I found the paper a really clear and compreh=
ensive overview of a complex topic.&nbsp; I particularly like the way that =
it roots the academic topics in the real world, looking at the developments=
 in post-quantum cryptography and quantum
 computing alongside the realities of the timelines and the systems we are =
trying to secure.&nbsp; The tables comparing the performance of the KEMs an=
d signatures in round 3 of the NIST post-quantum process will be useful ref=
erences for matching up NIST algorithms
 with applications and protocols.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">People in this group might also=
 be interested in two technical reports which were recently published by ET=
SI QSC (Quantum Safe Cryptography):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo3"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">TR 103 616 &quot;Quantum-Safe Signatures&quot;
<a href=3D"https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/103600_103699/103616/01.01.=
01_60/tr_103616v010101p.pdf">
https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/103600_103699/103616/01.01.01_60/tr_10=
3616v010101p.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" s=
tyle=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">TR 10=
3 823 &#8220;Quantum-Safe Public Key Encryption and Key Encapsulation&#8221=
;
<a href=3D"https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/103800_103899/103823/01.01.=
01_60/tr_103823v010101p.pdf">
https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/103800_103899/103823/01.01.01_60/tr_10=
3823v010101p.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">These reports make a good next =
step after the Ericsson paper.&nbsp; They aim to give concise descriptions =
of the schemes remaining in the NIST process, using a consistent notation t=
o help readers understand the similarities
 and differences between them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Flo<br>
UK National Cyber Security Centre<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
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0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:<=
/span></b><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> saag &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:saag-bounces@ietf.org">saag-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Mattsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 December 2021 09:16<br>
<b>To:</b> saag &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:saag@ietf.org">saag@ietf.org</a>&gt;;=
 IRTF CFRG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cfrg@irtf.org">cfrg@irtf.org</a>&gt;;
<a href=3D"mailto:qirg@irtf.org">qirg@irtf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [saag] Overview of Quantum-Resistant Cryptography<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">We felt that there was no </spa=
n>comprehensive and
<span lang=3D"EN-GB">up to date overview of quantum-resistant cryptography =
and decided to write one. How quantum technology will affect security is an=
 area full of snakeoil. We hope this is of interest. Comments welcome.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The full 40-page report can be =
found on arXiv:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&quot;Quantum-Resistant Cryptog=
raphy&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://arxiv.org/ab=
s/2112.00399">https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.00399</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">A shorter summary of the report=
 can be found in Ericsson Technology Review:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&quot;Quantum technology and it=
s impact on security in mobile networks&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://www.ericsson=
.com/en/reports-and-papers/ericsson-technology-review/articles/ensuring-sec=
urity-in-mobile-networks-post-quantum">https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-=
and-papers/ericsson-technology-review/articles/ensuring-security-in-mobile-=
networks-post-quantum</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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