From nobody Tue Jun 2 08:13:36 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C161ACE2D for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:13:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RMTgFcduegtl for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50F8C1ACE29 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t52FDWiC004442 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:13:32 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t52FDVWB003726 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:13:32 GMT Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t52FDV5i025243 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:13:31 GMT Received: from [10.0.1.27] (/24.86.216.17) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 08:13:31 -0700 From: Phil Hunt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4BF23B7F-8B2E-4015-B82A-C715A1FA1125" Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:13:29 -0700 To: SCIM WG Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] Archived-At: Subject: [scim] Clarification in the definition of group "members" attribute in Core-Schema X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 15:13:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4BF23B7F-8B2E-4015-B82A-C715A1FA1125 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I wanted to let people know about what appears to be some ambiguous text = in the definition of the =E2=80=9Cmembers=E2=80=9D attribute of the = =E2=80=9Cgroup=E2=80=9D resource type on page 24. Current draft text: members A list of members of the Group. While values MAY be added or removed, sub-attributes of members are "immutable". The "value" sub-attribute must be the "id" and the "$ref" sub-attribute must be the URI of a SCIM resource, either a "User", or a "Group". The intention of the "Group" type is to allow the service provider to support nested groups. Service providers MAY require clients to provide a non-empty members value based on the "required" sub attribute of the "members" attribute in the "Group" resource schema. The highlighted sentence beginning =E2=80=9CThe =E2=80=9Cvalue=E2=80=9D = sub-attribute=E2=80=9D is confusing as it is not clear whether value = refers to a multi-valued attribute value and =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D is the = sub-attribute, or whether the text is referring to the =E2=80=9Cvalue=E2=80= =9D sub-attribute whose value is a value that corresponds to an =E2=80=9Ci= d=E2=80=9D attribute. Likewise, the final sentence in the paragraph is also ambiguous. The paragraph should be clarified as: members A list of members of the Group. While values MAY be added or removed, sub-attributes of members are "immutable". The "value" sub-attribute contains the value of an =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D = attribute of a SCIM resource and the "$ref" sub-attribute contains the = URI of a SCIM resource, either a "User", or a "Group". The intention of the "Group" type is to allow the service provider to support nested groups. Service providers MAY require clients to provide a non-empty value by setting the =E2=80=9Crequired=E2=80=9D = attribute characteristic of a=20 sub-attribute of the "members" attribute in the "Group" resource schema. Please let me know if there are any objections to this clarification. Regards, Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.hunt@oracle.com --Apple-Mail=_4BF23B7F-8B2E-4015-B82A-C715A1FA1125 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I wanted to let people know about what appears to be some = ambiguous text in the definition of the =E2=80=9Cmembers=E2=80=9D = attribute of the =E2=80=9Cgroup=E2=80=9D resource type on page 24.

Current draft = text:
   members
      A list of members =
of the Group.  While values MAY be added or
      removed, sub-attributes of members are "immutable".  The "value"
      sub-attribute must be the "id" and the "$ref" sub-attribute must
      be the URI of a SCIM resource, either a "User", or a "Group".  =
The
      intention of the "Group" type is to allow the service provider to
      support nested groups.  Service providers MAY require clients to
      provide a non-empty members value based on the "required" sub
      attribute of the "members" attribute in the "Group" resource
      schema.

The = highlighted sentence beginning =E2=80=9CThe =E2=80=9Cvalue=E2=80=9D = sub-attribute=E2=80=9D is confusing as it is not clear whether value = refers to a multi-valued attribute value and =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D is the = sub-attribute, or whether the text is referring to the =E2=80=9Cvalue=E2=80= =9D sub-attribute whose value is a value that corresponds to an =E2=80=9Ci= d=E2=80=9D attribute.

Likewise, the final sentence in the paragraph is also = ambiguous.

The = paragraph should be clarified as:
  =
 members
      A list of members of the Group.  While values MAY be added or
      removed, sub-attributes of members are "immutable".  The "value"
      sub-attribute contains the value of an =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D =
attribute of a SCIM resource and the "$ref" sub-attribute contains the =
URI of a SCIM resource, either a "User", or a "Group".  The
      intention of the "Group" type is to allow the service provider to
      support nested groups.  Service providers MAY =
require clients to
      provide a non-empty value by setting the =E2=80=9Crequired=E2=80=9D =
attribute characteristic of a 
      sub-attribute of the =
"members" attribute in the "Group" resource
      schema.

Please let me know if there are any objections to this = clarification.

Regards,


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(userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t58FnWRE007549 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 8 Jun 2015 15:49:32 GMT Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t58FnWrK008090; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 15:49:32 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.27] (/174.7.250.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 08:49:31 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-DA78D96A-B18F-43B8-ABFC-8205E194D47C Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Phil Hunt X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12F70) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 08:49:30 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7319FA1B-7027-4F5E-93D0-9028A628A14C@oracle.com> References: To: Kelly Grizzle X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] Archived-At: Cc: SCIM WG , Leif Johansson Subject: Re: [scim] Clarification in the definition of group "members" attribute in Core-Schema X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:49:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail-DA78D96A-B18F-43B8-ABFC-8205E194D47C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having heard no objections, I will post the clarification today.=20 Phil > On Jun 2, 2015, at 14:36, Kelly Grizzle wrot= e: >=20 > Sounds good to me. > =20 > From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:13 AM > To: SCIM WG > Subject: [scim] Clarification in the definition of group "members" attribu= te in Core-Schema > =20 > I wanted to let people know about what appears to be some ambiguous text i= n the definition of the =E2=80=9Cmembers=E2=80=9D attribute of the =E2=80=9C= group=E2=80=9D resource type on page 24. > =20 > Current draft text: > members > A list of members of the Group. While values MAY be added or > removed, sub-attributes of members are "immutable". The "value" > sub-attribute must be the "id" and the "$ref" sub-attribute must > be the URI of a SCIM resource, either a "User", or a "Group". The > intention of the "Group" type is to allow the service provider to > support nested groups. Service providers MAY require clients to > provide a non-empty members value based on the "required" sub > attribute of the "members" attribute in the "Group" resource > schema. > =20 > The highlighted sentence beginning =E2=80=9CThe =E2=80=9Cvalue=E2=80=9D su= b-attribute=E2=80=9D is confusing as it is not clear whether value refers to= a multi-valued attribute value and =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D is the sub-attribut= e, or whether the text is referring to the =E2=80=9Cvalue=E2=80=9D sub-attri= bute whose value is a value that corresponds to an =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D attr= ibute. > =20 > Likewise, the final sentence in the paragraph is also ambiguous. > =20 > The paragraph should be clarified as: > members > A list of members of the Group. While values MAY be added or > removed, sub-attributes of members are "immutable". The "value" > sub-attribute contains the value of an =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D attribut= e of a SCIM resource and the "$ref" sub-attribute contains the URI of a SCIM= resource, either a "User", or a "Group". The > intention of the "Group" type is to allow the service provider to > support nested groups. Service providers MAY require clients to > provide a non-empty value by setting the =E2=80=9Crequired=E2=80=9D a= ttribute characteristic of a=20 > sub-attribute of the "members" attribute in the "Group" resource > schema. > =20 > Please let me know if there are any objections to this clarification. > =20 > Regards, > =20 > Phil > =20 > @independentid > www.independentid.com > phil.hunt@oracle.com > =20 > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim --Apple-Mail-DA78D96A-B18F-43B8-ABFC-8205E194D47C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Having heard no objections, I will pos= t the clarification today. 

Phil

On Jun 2, 2015, a= t 14:36, Kelly Grizzle <ke= lly.grizzle@sailpoint.com> wrote:

Sounds good to me.

 

From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:13 AM
To: SCIM WG
Subject: [scim] Clarification in the definition of group "members" at= tribute in Core-Schema

 

I wanted to let people know about what appears to be s= ome ambiguous text in the definition of the =E2=80=9Cmembers=E2=80=9D attrib= ute of the =E2=80=9Cgroup=E2=80=9D resource type on page 24.

 

Current draft text:

   members= 

      A lis=
t of members of the Group.  While values MAY be added or

      remov=
ed, sub-attributes of members are "immutable".  The "value"


      su=
b-attribute must be the "id" and the "$ref" sub-attribute must


      be=
 the URI of a SCIM resource, either a "User", or a "Group".  The


      inten=
tion of the "Group" type is to allow the service provider to

      suppo=
rt nested groups.  Service providers MAY require clients to


      pr=
ovide a non-empty members value based on the "required" sub

      at=
tribute of the "members" attribute in the "Group" resource

      schem=
a.

 

The highlighted sentence beginning =E2=80=9CThe =E2=80= =9Cvalue=E2=80=9D sub-attribute=E2=80=9D is confusing as it is not clear whe= ther value refers to a multi-valued attribute value and =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D= is the sub-attribute, or whether the text is referring to the =E2=80=9Cvalu= e=E2=80=9D sub-attribute whose value is a value that corresponds to an =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D attribut= e.

 

Likewise, the final sentence in the paragraph is also= ambiguous.

 

The paragraph should be clarified as:

   members

      A lis=
t of members of the Group.  While values MAY be added or

      remov=
ed, sub-attributes of members are "immutable".  The "value"


      su=
b-attribute contains the value of an =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D attribute of a SCI=
M resource and the "$ref" sub-attribute contains the URI of a SCIM resource,=
 either a "User", or a "Group".  The


      inten=
tion of the "Group" type is to allow the service provider to

      suppo=
rt nested groups.  Service providers MAY require clients to


      pr=
ovide a non-empty value by setting the =E2=80=9Crequired=E2=80=9D attribute c=
haracteristic of a 


      su=
b-attribute of the "members" attribute in the "Group" resource


      sc=
hema.

 

Please let me know if there are any objections to thi= s clarification.

 

Regards,

 

 

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= --Apple-Mail-DA78D96A-B18F-43B8-ABFC-8205E194D47C-- From nobody Mon Jun 8 11:58:34 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3458E1B31CC; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:58:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lHJTsqA1br6d; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F391C1B317C; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:58:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.3.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150608185831.17934.4592.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 11:58:31 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: scim@ietf.org Subject: [scim] I-D Action: draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22.txt X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 18:58:33 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the System for Cross-domain Identity Management Working Group of the IETF. Title : System for Cross-Domain Identity Management: Core Schema Authors : Phil Hunt Kelly Grizzle Erik Wahlstroem Chuck Mortimore Filename : draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22.txt Pages : 94 Date : 2015-06-08 Abstract: The System for Cross-Domain Identity Management (SCIM) specifications are designed to make identity management in cloud based applications and services easier. The specification suite builds upon experience with existing schemas and deployments, placing specific emphasis on simplicity of development and integration, while applying existing authentication, authorization, and privacy models. Its intent is to reduce the cost and complexity of user management operations by providing a common user schema and extension model, as well as binding documents to provide patterns for exchanging this schema using HTTP protocol. This document provides a platform neutral schema and extension model for representing users and groups and other resource types in JSON format. This schema is intended for exchange and use with cloud service providers. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-scim-core-schema/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jun 8 12:02:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF641B31C7 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:02:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w-HU5CtXZRjq for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B41A81B31C1 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t58J2iAk029232 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:02:44 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t58J2hMv001516 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:02:43 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t58J2hv3021628; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:02:43 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.200] (/174.7.250.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:02:43 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: Phil Hunt In-Reply-To: <20150608185831.17934.4592.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:02:41 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <56E9C74C-39C7-4773-A6AC-97B37D853179@oracle.com> References: <20150608185831.17934.4592.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: SCIM WG X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] Archived-At: Cc: Leif Johansson , Barry Leiba Subject: Re: [scim] I-D Action: draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22.txt X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 19:02:52 -0000 FYI, this was a slight clarification to the Group members attribute. The = original definition was causing some developers to assume the sub = attribute was =E2=80=9Cid=E2=80=9D and not =E2=80=9Cvalue=E2=80=9D as = per the multi-value attribute definition. This was discussed here: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/scim/current/msg02460.html Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.hunt@oracle.com > On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:58 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the System for Cross-domain Identity = Management Working Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : System for Cross-Domain Identity Management: = Core Schema > Authors : Phil Hunt > Kelly Grizzle > Erik Wahlstroem > Chuck Mortimore > Filename : draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22.txt > Pages : 94 > Date : 2015-06-08 >=20 > Abstract: > The System for Cross-Domain Identity Management (SCIM) = specifications > are designed to make identity management in cloud based applications > and services easier. The specification suite builds upon experience > with existing schemas and deployments, placing specific emphasis on > simplicity of development and integration, while applying existing > authentication, authorization, and privacy models. Its intent is to > reduce the cost and complexity of user management operations by > providing a common user schema and extension model, as well as > binding documents to provide patterns for exchanging this schema > using HTTP protocol. >=20 > This document provides a platform neutral schema and extension model > for representing users and groups and other resource types in JSON > format. This schema is intended for exchange and use with cloud > service providers. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-scim-core-schema/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim From nobody Wed Jun 10 06:58:12 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D6A1B2A65; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:58:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G2tj-NNnWCSm; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622141B2A66; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.3.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150610135804.18095.10076.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:58:04 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: scim mailing list , scim chair , RFC Editor Subject: [scim] Protocol Action: 'System for Cross-Domain Identity Management: Protocol' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-scim-api-19.txt) X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:58:08 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'System for Cross-Domain Identity Management: Protocol' (draft-ietf-scim-api-19.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the System for Cross-domain Identity Management Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Ben Campbell, Barry Leiba and Alissa Cooper. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-scim-api/ Technical Summary Two documents together (draft-ietf-scim-api and draft-ietf-core-schema) are the core documents of the SCIM protocol - a simple API for "CRUD" operations on (mainly) user and group objects associated with Internet services (aka cloud services). The schema document defines the object model for the core resources as well as extension mechanisms for adding new resource types and extending core resources. Review and Consensus The documents have been extensively reviewed and are being implemented by multiple parties. The set of active contributors is mostly made up of vendors and is relatively small. Most of the work has been done via interim conference calls, which has also made the group quite active and productive. The current documents represent "version 2.0" of an existing standard that was developed by an informal collaboration. Version 2.0 represents a significant number of changes but there are already (partial) implementations that has informed the WG. It is the opinion of the shepherd that the WG has reached broad consensus on the specification and several vendors are getting to a point where they could demonstrate interoperability between multiple independent implementations. At this point, the documents should be published as Proposed Standard, with possible revision to account for issues discovered during continued deployment and interoperability-testing. Personnel Document shepherd: Leif Johansson Responsible AD: Barry Leiba From nobody Wed Jun 10 06:59:20 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0F31B2A72; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:59:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kNw--oQ545on; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEF01B2A77; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.3.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150610135908.19653.99628.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:59:08 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: scim mailing list , scim chair , RFC Editor Subject: [scim] Protocol Action: 'System for Cross-Domain Identity Management: Core Schema' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22.txt) X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:59:19 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'System for Cross-Domain Identity Management: Core Schema' (draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the System for Cross-domain Identity Management Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Ben Campbell, Barry Leiba and Alissa Cooper. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-scim-core-schema/ Technical Summary Two documents together (draft-ietf-scim-api and draft-ietf-core-schema) are the core documents of the SCIM protocol - a simple API for "CRUD" operations on (mainly) user and group objects associated with Internet services (aka cloud services). The schema document defines the object model for the core resources as well as extension mechanisms for adding new resource types and extending core resources. Review and Consensus The documents have been extensively reviewed and are being implemented by multiple parties. The set of active contributors is mostly made up of vendors and is relatively small. Most of the work has been done via interim conference calls, which has also made the group quite active and productive. The current documents represent "version 2.0" of an existing standard that was developed by an informal collaboration. Version 2.0 represents a significant number of changes but there are already (partial) implementations that has informed the WG. It is the opinion of the shepherd that the WG has reached broad consensus on the specification and several vendors are getting to a point where they could demonstrate interoperability between multiple independent implementations. At this point, the documents should be published as Proposed Standard, with possible revision to account for issues discovered during continued deployment and interoperability-testing. Personnel Document shepherd: Leif Johansson Responsible AD: Barry Leiba From nobody Mon Jun 22 12:23:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506B51A8957 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:23:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HuaaCIYVUeJe for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A83E1A8955 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t5MJNTML027374 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:23:30 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5MJNTAG008713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:23:29 GMT Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5MJNT8T010932; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:23:29 GMT Received: from [10.0.1.3] (/24.86.216.17) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:23:28 -0700 From: Phil Hunt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B6CDB988-7CC4-4F4F-9A43-930B1500A96F" Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:23:27 -0700 Message-Id: <098B379B-9F23-4236-8021-F9B9FEF09535@oracle.com> To: SCIM WG Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] Archived-At: Cc: RFC Errata System Subject: [scim] Correction to SCIM-API-19 X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:23:37 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B6CDB988-7CC4-4F4F-9A43-930B1500A96F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 For draft-ietf-scim-api-19, on page 55, Section 3.7.2 in the last = example, s/=E2=80=9CbatchId:qwerty=E2=80=9D/=E2=80=9CbulkId:qwerty=E2=80=9D= / Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.hunt@oracle.com --Apple-Mail=_B6CDB988-7CC4-4F4F-9A43-930B1500A96F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 For draft-ietf-scim-api-19, on page 55, Section 3.7.2 in the = last example, s/=E2=80=9CbatchId:qwerty=E2=80=9D/=E2=80=9CbulkId:qwerty=E2= =80=9D/


= --Apple-Mail=_B6CDB988-7CC4-4F4F-9A43-930B1500A96F-- From nobody Mon Jun 29 11:46:27 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDEA1A90C6 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:44:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.789 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.789 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wc3KbSl74ekJ for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633FB1A90A3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAB81E59D4; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:43:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8x-wEfVKbo8J; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (pool-100-36-211-121.washdc.fios.verizon.net [100.36.211.121]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7511D1E59D3; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Megan Ferguson In-Reply-To: <098B379B-9F23-4236-8021-F9B9FEF09535@oracle.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:44:24 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3423691C-3E19-4D2C-87DC-F2AA1F7CB661@amsl.com> References: <098B379B-9F23-4236-8021-F9B9FEF09535@oracle.com> To: Phil Hunt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:46:27 -0700 Cc: SCIM WG , RFC System Subject: Re: [scim] Correction to SCIM-API-19 (draft-ietf-scim-api-19) X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:44:28 -0000 Hi Phil, Thank you for sending along this correction. We have noted this change = in our database and will incorporate it during EDIT state. RFC Editor/mf On Jun 22, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Phil Hunt wrote: > For draft-ietf-scim-api-19, on page 55, Section 3.7.2 in the last = example, s/=93batchId:qwerty=94/=93bulkId:qwerty=94/ >=20 > Phil >=20 > @independentid > www.independentid.com > phil.hunt@oracle.com >=20