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What is the status of the SCIM Soft Delete extension draft?

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ansari-scim-soft-delete/

Are there any plans to resurrect and finalize this extension?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>What is the status of the SCIM Soft Delete extension =
draft?<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org=
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I believe there are at least 3 ID drafts proposals for different extensions.=
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There would have to be enough interest expressed to re-charter the WG to mee=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I believe there are at least 3 ID drafts proposals for different extensions.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>There would have to be enough interest expressed to re-charter the WG to meet again or get an area director sponsorship.&nbsp;<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Phil</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jan 14, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Shelley &lt;<a href="mailto:randomshelley@gmail.com">randomshelley@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>What is the status of the SCIM Soft Delete extension draft?<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ansari-scim-soft-delete/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ansari-scim-soft-delete/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Are there any plans to resurrect and finalize this extension?<br></div></div>
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I believe there are at least 3 ID drafts proposals for different extensions.=
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> On Jan 14, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Shelley <randomshelley@gmail.com> wrote:
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ansari-scim-soft-delete/
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I believe there are at least 3 ID drafts proposals for different extensions.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>There would have to be enough interest expressed to re-charter the WG to meet again or get an area director sponsorship.&nbsp;<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Phil</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jan 14, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Shelley &lt;<a href="mailto:randomshelley@gmail.com">randomshelley@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>What is the status of the SCIM Soft Delete extension draft?<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ansari-scim-soft-delete/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ansari-scim-soft-delete/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Are there any plans to resurrect and finalize this extension?<br></div></div>
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Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM Soft Delete
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In addition to progressing the SCIM extensions I-Ds, it may also be
worthwhile to consider rechartering the WG in order to evaluate and
revise the existing SCIM RFCs, addressing the criteria of section 2.2
of RFC 6410 (ensure at least two independent interoperating=20
implementations of each feature, no errata, no unused features...),=20
to allow the underlying SCIM protocol and core schema to progress=20
towards standards status.

Thanks,

Mark Wahl
Microsoft Corporation



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It would help tremendously to have an interop test suite hosted by a neutral=
 org (eg OIDF).=20

A compliance suite would go a long way to identify true interop issues vs. i=
ntended restful flexibility.=20

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Phil Hunt
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> On Jan 14, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wahl <Mark.Wahl@microsoft.com> wrote:
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> In addition to progressing the SCIM extensions I-Ds, it may also be
> worthwhile to consider rechartering the WG in order to evaluate and
> revise the existing SCIM RFCs, addressing the criteria of section 2.2
> of RFC 6410 (ensure at least two independent interoperating=20
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It would help tremendously to have an interop test suite hosted by a neutral=
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A compliance suite would go a long way to identify true interop issues vs. i=
ntended restful flexibility.=20

Cheers,

Phil Hunt
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> On Jan 14, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Mark Wahl <Mark.Wahl@microsoft.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> In addition to progressing the SCIM extensions I-Ds, it may also be
> worthwhile to consider rechartering the WG in order to evaluate and
> revise the existing SCIM RFCs, addressing the criteria of section 2.2
> of RFC 6410 (ensure at least two independent interoperating=20
> implementations of each feature, no errata, no unused features...),=20
> to allow the underlying SCIM protocol and core schema to progress=20
> towards standards status.
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Mark Wahl
> Microsoft Corporation
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Hi All,

I have a requirement to implement a feature to trigger email account
verification in a scenario where the user=E2=80=99s email address is update=
d. Till
email verification happens the email address of the user will not be
updated with the new email address. The above feature will be invoked via a
SCIM PATCH operation to update the email address.

As defined in the SCIM specification [1], on successful completion of a
PATCH request, the server returns either *200 - OK* or *204 - No Content*.
In my requirement, the HTTP response status code needs to be *202 -
Accepted* to indicate that the request has been accepted but the processing
has not been completed since the updated email is not verified. Therefore
I'm currently having concerns regarding the recommended HTTP status code to
be returned with the SCIM response.

Any input regarding the recommended HTTP response status code on a scenario
where a SCIM PATCH operation is performed for verifiable claims is highly
appreciated.

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7644#section-3.5.2

Kind regards,
Dewni Weeraman

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi All,<div><br></div><div>I have a requirement to impleme=
nt a feature to trigger email account verification in a scenario where the =
user=E2=80=99s email address is updated. Till email verification happens th=
e email address of the user will not be updated with the new email address.=
 The above feature will be invoked via a SCIM PATCH operation to update the=
 email address.</div><div><br></div><div>As defined in the SCIM specificati=
on [1], on successful completion of a PATCH request, the server returns eit=
her <i>200 - OK</i> or <i>204 - No Content</i>. In my requirement, the HTTP=
 response status code needs to be <i>202 - Accepted</i> to indicate that th=
e request has been accepted but the processing has not been completed since=
 the updated email is not verified. Therefore I&#39;m currently having conc=
erns regarding the recommended HTTP status code to be returned with the SCI=
M response.=C2=A0</div>=C2=A0<br>Any input regarding the recommended HTTP r=
esponse status code on a scenario where a SCIM PATCH operation is performed=
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=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7644#section-3.5.2">https://tools.ietf.o=
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