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So i am adding sctp-impl to the CC list. I would like to clarify how associd is currently defined and implemented in linux SCTP(lksctp). - sctp_assoc_t is defined as signed 32 bit value. - The valid values of associd are 1-0x7fffffff. - They don't have any relationship with file descriptors. - All associations have a associd irrespective of whether they belong to 1-1 or 1-many style sockets. - The associd will not change when the association is peeled-off to a different socket. Thanks Sridhar Anders Torger wrote: >One problem with sctp_assoc_t is that there is no clear definition of >what the values can be. > >The only thing I can find out from draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpsocket-10.txt is >that zero is not a valid value for an association, but any other value >may be. > >It would be great if the API draft would specify some facts/rules about >sctp_assoc_t and association ID. I *think* this is true, and I'd like >that it was mentioned more clearly in the draft: > > - sctp_assoc_t is an integer of unspecified size and may be signed or > unsigned > - a valid association has an id != 0 (that is both positive and > negative sctp_assoc_t are valid values). > - a one-to-one socket has no association id > - a peeled off socket will lose its association id (the file descriptor > should be used for future reference), and the old id may be > immediately re-used by a new one-to-many association. > >In lksctp, it seems like one-to-one sockets have an association id >anyway, which is equal to the file descriptor value, while in Solaris >10 a random value is provided as association id in events on one-to-one >sockets. > >I would prefer if the API draft would specify that the OS must set the >association id to zero in returned events for one-to-one sockets >instead of allowing it to contain a random value like in Solaris 10, or >something that might be usable like in lksctp. This will make the API >safer (=bugs in user code is easier detected). > >When mixing one-to-many and one-to-one sockets there can often be a need >to provide a single space of handles for associations to upper layers >within the application. Handles which work for both one-to-many sockets >and one-to-one sockets, and does not change at peeloff. This is a bit >of a pain, since file descriptor values can collide with association id >values, and association id is lost at peeloff. But I don't think there >is much one can do about it. Virtual handles unrelated to file >descriptors and sctp_assoc_t combined with a lookup table is necessary >for that. > >I had an idea that one could define rules for sctp_assoc_t such that >valid one-to-many association ids would be outside the range of valid >file descriptors, and give one-to-one sockets an association id equal >to the file descriptor value, and that way provide a single handle >space without the need for virtual handles and lookup tables in >user-space. However, it breaks with peeloff, since then the association >id would have to change. 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Frank Filz ------------=_1115915079-1235-0-- From ffilzlnx@us.ibm.com Thu May 12 12:45:30 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA10398 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DWH4G-0006ZL-GV for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:01:48 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 May 2005 09:45:22 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.93,100,1115017200"; d="scan'208"; a="635896520:sNHT59711200" Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j4CGiqPo014165; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j4CGiMnJ001568 for sctp-impl-filtered; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200505121644.j4CGiMnJ001568@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1115916262-1566-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Thoughts on implementing sctp_connectx() List-Id: sctp-impl To: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com From: Frank Filz X-Nails-Approved: ffilzlnx@us.ibm.com Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:42:23 -0700 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 50a516d93fd399dc60588708fd9a3002 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1115916262-1566-0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Looks like I can post now. 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This thread is all about implementation... Anders Torger wrote: > One problem with sctp_assoc_t is that there is no clear definition of > what the values can be. > > The only thing I can find out from draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpsocket-10.txt is > that zero is not a valid value for an association, but any other value > may be. I think the original intention is to allow an implementation to define what sctp_assoc_t should be. This means that instead of 0, the invalid value should probably be defined as something like SCTP_ASSOC_INVALID. So an implementation may use, say, a pointer as sctp_assoc_t. And SCTP_ASSOC_INVALID may be defined as NULL. This should be fixed. > It would be great if the API draft would specify some facts/rules about > sctp_assoc_t and association ID. I *think* this is true, and I'd like > that it was mentioned more clearly in the draft: While this is fine, but I think we should not restrict what an implementation may want to use as sctp_assoc_t unless this is necessary. > - sctp_assoc_t is an integer of unspecified size and may be signed or > unsigned > - a valid association has an id != 0 (that is both positive and > negative sctp_assoc_t are valid values). > - a one-to-one socket has no association id I believe in all the places where sctp_assoc_t are mentioned, it should state something like, "For one-to-one style socket, this field is ignored." I think it is probably not a good idea to state that a 1-1 socket has no association ID. An implementation may choose to assign an assoc ID to the association controlled by a 1-1 style socket. But the callers of the API must not depend on this. OTOH, it should also not state the other way round. A caller should only use an assoc ID with a 1-N style socket. > - a peeled off socket will lose its association id (the file descriptor > should be used for future reference), and the old id may be > immediately re-used by a new one-to-many association. To allow more flexibility, I guess what we should say is that after an association is peeled off and is under control of a 1-1 style socket, the caller should not use the original assoc ID and the 1-N socket to control the association. This allows the stack the ability to reuse the assoc ID or not. This means that before calling sctp_peeloff(), the caller should "forget" about the assoc ID and then use the "forgotten value" as the parameter to sctp_peeloff(). > In lksctp, it seems like one-to-one sockets have an association id > anyway, which is equal to the file descriptor value, while in Solaris > 10 a random value is provided as association id in events on one-to-one > sockets. Yes, in Solaris, the assoc_id field is not initialized for 1-1 style socket, thus the random value. Could you elaborate on the problem you are having if the assoc_id field is not initialized by the stack? > I would prefer if the API draft would specify that the OS must set the > association id to zero in returned events for one-to-one sockets > instead of allowing it to contain a random value like in Solaris 10, or > something that might be usable like in lksctp. This will make the API > safer (=bugs in user code is easier detected). Even though in some implementations a 1-1 style socket also has an assoc ID, the caller of the API MUST not use it or depend on it. As mentioned above, sctp_assoc_t can be a lot of things. > When mixing one-to-many and one-to-one sockets there can often be a need > to provide a single space of handles for associations to upper layers > within the application. Handles which work for both one-to-many sockets > and one-to-one sockets, and does not change at peeloff. This is a bit > of a pain, since file descriptor values can collide with association id > values, and association id is lost at peeloff. But I don't think there > is much one can do about it. Virtual handles unrelated to file > descriptors and sctp_assoc_t combined with a lookup table is necessary > for that. The issue here is that the caller of the API cannot depend on the type of sctp_assoc_t. This means that if the caller is providing a service to upper layers, it should have its own handle and should not use the assoc ID. And the assoc ID should be thought as a handle only exists under a 1-N style socket. Could you elaborate the problem you are having here? Even if the app mixes the use of 1-1 and 1-N style socket, I expect that the caller should know the style of a socket. Otherwise, a lot of things can be broken. BTW, I'd recommend not to mix the two styles of SCTP socket in an app... > I had an idea that one could define rules for sctp_assoc_t such that > valid one-to-many association ids would be outside the range of valid > file descriptors, and give one-to-one sockets an association id equal > to the file descriptor value, and that way provide a single handle > space without the need for virtual handles and lookup tables in > user-space. However, it breaks with peeloff, since then the association > id would have to change. Therefore my suggestion is simply to clarify > what the current rules are. This assumes that sctp_assoc_t has the same type as a file descriptor. But this may not be true in some implementations. Since sctp_assoc_t lives only under a 1-N style socket conceptually, it may be a good idea for an implementation not to define sctp_assoc_t as the same type as a file descriptor. Well, it seems that all the existing impls define sctp_assoc_t as an int... But this is not necessary as currently stated in the API draft (-: -- K. 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This is correct. After all, an implementation may only support 1-1 style socket. And the type sctp_assoc_t may be defined as anything. > It seems to me however, that in lksctp, the association id is indeed > visible in (for example) notifications for one-to-one sockets, although > it says in the API draft that the value should be "ignored". On Solaris > 10, a seemingly random value is delivered instead. > > I would prefer the lksctp model, or that the value is set to zero. In > any case, it is not clear how it should work in the API draft. By zero, I presume that you are referring to something like SCTP_ASSOC_INVALID as suggested in my previous email. As a caller should not use or even check the value of assoc_id field if the socket is 1-1 style, the value should not matter. I guess initialization it to a value is a good idea. > I also like the model where sctp_assoc_t is signed, and that only > positive values are valid associations, in that way looking a bit like > file descriptors, and making it possible to make functions that return > sctp_assoc_t giving either a valid (>0), undefined (=0) or error (<0) > as result. > > It is also nice that the association id is kept at peeloff, avoiding > that the id would be re-used by another one-to-many association before > the original socket has closed. Also this is not specified how it > should work in the API draft. By specifying this, we will unnecessarily restrict how an implementation handles an assoc ID. After an association is peeled off from a 1-N style socket, it will be controlled under a 1-1 style socket. Logically, the two sockets are separate entity and do not need to share anything. Requiring the original assoc ID not be used until the 1-1 style socket is closed means that the two sockets are linked in a special (SCTP only) way. I guess what we should specify is that after sctp_peeloff() is called, the caller should disassociate the association with the original assoc ID. -- K. 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