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The close() call, with or without linger enabled and with or without autoclose, would terminate all associations and free the socket. Using autoclose simply does a normal shutdown on associations on a socket after some specified idle time, but will leave the socket allocated. There are uses for both, and I don't see the conflict. regards, --peter Vlad Yasevich wrote: > Hi Folks > > Something that came up in recent conversations between myself and a > collegue is whether the linger settings (specifically linger = 1 and > lingertime = 0), should affect autoclose associations. > > If the user were to perform a close(), all the associations would be > aborted in this situation. However, if the user were to do nothing, > the associations would be closed with a normal shutdown procedure. > > I am thinking that it may be OK to abort associations when the autoclose > is enabled and linger settings are specified with lingertimer of 0. > > What do others think? > > Thanks > -vlad ------------=_1124214572-20479-0-- From peterlei@cisco.com Tue Aug 16 14:07:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E55qA-0006sG-NB for sctp-impl-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:07:10 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA26287 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E56PX-0008UC-Je for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:43:45 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Aug 2005 11:07:01 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.96,113,1122879600"; d="scan'208"; a="655037135:sNHT71096714" Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j7GI6loo022323; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailgun.cisco.com ([171.69.11.147]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:06:46 -0700 Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j7GI6Yiw020735 for sctp-impl-filtered; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200508161806.j7GI6Yiw020735@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1124215594-20733-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations List-Id: sctp-impl To: Anatoly Khusid From: "Peter Lei (peterlei)" Cc: "'Vlad Yasevich'" , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com, lksctp-developers@lists.sourceforge.net X-Nails-Approved: peterlei@cisco.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:06:21 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2005 18:06:46.0679 (UTC) FILETIME=[441D5A70:01C5A28D] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 32b73d73e8047ed17386f9799119ce43 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1124215594-20733-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Anatoly Khusid wrote: > I thought the default behavior for close() is to gracefully terminate SCTP > association? Yes, it should be... > To change this behavior, linger=1 must be set through setsockopt(). linger.l_onoff = 1 and linger.linger = 0 in order to ABORT all open associations. A non-zero linger.l_linger value would cause a graceful shutdown on open associations; the socket is not closed for application use until the linger.linger value time expires. The original question below deals with what should the proper behavior be when: linger.l_onoff = 1, linger.l_linger = 0, and autoclose is enabled. Basically, the autoclose setting should NOT matter in this case and all assocs should be abortively closed immediately. regards, --peter > Is this a correct behavior, at least thats how I think LKSCTP behaves? > > Thanks, > > Anatoly > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Lei (peterlei) [mailto:peterlei@cisco.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:49 PM > To: Vlad Yasevich > Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com; > lksctp-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations > > > The abortive close of all associations is what I interpret a > linger = 1, lingertime = 0 to mean, regardless of the autoclose > settings on that socket. > > The close() call, with or without linger enabled and with or > without autoclose, would terminate all associations and free > the socket. Using autoclose simply does a normal shutdown on > associations on a socket after some specified idle time, but > will leave the socket allocated. There are uses for both, > and I don't see the conflict. > > regards, > --peter > > > Vlad Yasevich wrote: > >>Hi Folks >> >>Something that came up in recent conversations between myself and a >>collegue is whether the linger settings (specifically linger = 1 and >>lingertime = 0), should affect autoclose associations. >> >>If the user were to perform a close(), all the associations would be >>aborted in this situation. However, if the user were to do nothing, >>the associations would be closed with a normal shutdown procedure. >> >>I am thinking that it may be OK to abort associations when the autoclose >>is enabled and linger settings are specified with lingertimer of 0. >> >>What do others think? >> >>Thanks >>-vlad -- Peter Lei IP Technologies Engineering Cisco Systems, Inc. office: (773) 695-8201 mobile: (847) 830-8869 peterlei@cisco.com ------------=_1124215594-20733-0-- From anatoly.khusid@ulticom.com Tue Aug 16 14:21:37 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E5649-00014T-Df for sctp-impl-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:21:37 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA26939 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E56dW-0000Ot-LL for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:58:11 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (171.68.223.137) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Aug 2005 11:21:23 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.96,113,1122879600"; d="scan'208"; a="205210979:sNHT78312440" Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j7GIKXZ1019820; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailgun.cisco.com ([171.69.11.147]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:20:33 -0700 Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j7GIKJiw020944 for sctp-impl-filtered; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200508161820.j7GIKJiw020944@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1124216419-20941-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: RE: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations List-Id: sctp-impl To: "'Peter Lei \(peterlei\)'" , "'Vlad Yasevich'" From: "Anatoly Khusid" Cc: , X-Nails-Approved: anatoly.khusid@ulticom.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:55:38 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2005 18:20:33.0185 (UTC) FILETIME=[30C02910:01C5A28F] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f607d15ccc2bc4eaf3ade8ffa8af02a0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1124216419-20941-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary I thought the default behavior for close() is to gracefully terminate SCTP association? To change this behavior, linger=1 must be set through setsockopt(). Is this a correct behavior, at least thats how I think LKSCTP behaves? Thanks, Anatoly -----Original Message----- From: Peter Lei (peterlei) [mailto:peterlei@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:49 PM To: Vlad Yasevich Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com; lksctp-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations The abortive close of all associations is what I interpret a linger = 1, lingertime = 0 to mean, regardless of the autoclose settings on that socket. The close() call, with or without linger enabled and with or without autoclose, would terminate all associations and free the socket. Using autoclose simply does a normal shutdown on associations on a socket after some specified idle time, but will leave the socket allocated. There are uses for both, and I don't see the conflict. regards, --peter Vlad Yasevich wrote: > Hi Folks > > Something that came up in recent conversations between myself and a > collegue is whether the linger settings (specifically linger = 1 and > lingertime = 0), should affect autoclose associations. > > If the user were to perform a close(), all the associations would be > aborted in this situation. However, if the user were to do nothing, > the associations would be closed with a normal shutdown procedure. > > I am thinking that it may be OK to abort associations when the autoclose > is enabled and linger settings are specified with lingertimer of 0. > > What do others think? > > Thanks > -vlad ------------=_1124216419-20941-0-- From rrs@cisco.com Tue Aug 16 14:24:41 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E5677-0001i6-5U for sctp-impl-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:24:41 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA27040 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E56gV-0000TX-7P for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:01:15 -0400 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (171.71.177.237) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Aug 2005 11:24:31 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.96,113,1122879600"; d="scan'208"; a="332752168:sNHT78417812" Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j7GIOG0J014790; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailgun.cisco.com ([171.69.11.147]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:24:18 -0700 Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j7GIO3iw021020 for sctp-impl-filtered; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200508161824.j7GIO3iw021020@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1124216643-21018-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations List-Id: sctp-impl To: "Peter Lei (peterlei)" From: Randall Stewart Cc: Anatoly Khusid , "'Vlad Yasevich'" , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com, lksctp-developers@lists.sourceforge.net X-Nails-Approved: rrs@cisco.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:23:23 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2005 18:24:18.0292 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6ECC340:01C5A28F] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b2809b6f39decc6de467dcf252f42af1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1124216643-21018-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Peter Lei (peterlei) wrote: > Anatoly Khusid wrote: > >> I thought the default behavior for close() is to gracefully terminate >> SCTP >> association? > > > Yes, it should be... I think this is true IF and ONLY IF the user has read all the data. If the socket is closed with data still unread then an ABORT is sent.. I believe this is true in TCP as well.. aka a RST is set if you close and did not clear your socket buffer... this is to alert the peer that you did not read all the data that was acknowledged. > >> To change this behavior, linger=1 must be set through setsockopt(). > > > linger.l_onoff = 1 and linger.linger = 0 in order to ABORT all > open associations. A non-zero linger.l_linger value would cause > a graceful shutdown on open associations; the socket is not > closed for application use until the linger.linger value time > expires. > > The original question below deals with what should the proper > behavior be when: > linger.l_onoff = 1, linger.l_linger = 0, and autoclose is enabled. > > Basically, the autoclose setting should NOT matter in this case > and all assocs should be abortively closed immediately. If and only if the user does do a close() after the linger settings are as above. In cases where you just set linger to what is shown above and let auto-close work.. then graceful shutdown's will happen. Now I think what Vlad is asking is would it be worthwhile to have something like a set of linger() settings that would effect autoclose to do an ABORT(). I don't think this is wise IMO since in theory the reason autoclose happens is that you have sent all the data and the peer has sent all the data.. and the association is just sitting there idle heartbeatting... So aborting makes no sense to me in this case... I don't think, in any case (if it was a desired property), we would want to mix linger with autoclose.. we would need some other settings LIKE linger but not the same. R > > regards, > --peter > >> Is this a correct behavior, at least thats how I think LKSCTP behaves? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Anatoly >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peter Lei (peterlei) [mailto:peterlei@cisco.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:49 PM >> To: Vlad Yasevich >> Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com; >> lksctp-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >> Subject: Re: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations >> >> >> The abortive close of all associations is what I interpret a >> linger = 1, lingertime = 0 to mean, regardless of the autoclose >> settings on that socket. >> >> The close() call, with or without linger enabled and with or >> without autoclose, would terminate all associations and free >> the socket. Using autoclose simply does a normal shutdown on >> associations on a socket after some specified idle time, but >> will leave the socket allocated. There are uses for both, >> and I don't see the conflict. >> >> regards, >> --peter >> >> >> Vlad Yasevich wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks >>> >>> Something that came up in recent conversations between myself and a >>> collegue is whether the linger settings (specifically linger = 1 and >>> lingertime = 0), should affect autoclose associations. >>> >>> If the user were to perform a close(), all the associations would be >>> aborted in this situation. However, if the user were to do nothing, >>> the associations would be closed with a normal shutdown procedure. >>> >>> I am thinking that it may be OK to abort associations when the autoclose >>> is enabled and linger settings are specified with lingertimer of 0. >>> >>> What do others think? >>> >>> Thanks >>> -vlad > > > -- Randall Stewart ITD - Cisco Systems Inc. 803-345-0369 815-342-5222 (cell) ------------=_1124216643-21018-0-- From peterlei@cisco.com Tue Aug 16 14:37:21 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E56JN-00040E-GN for sctp-impl-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:37:21 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA27712 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E56sl-0000nP-Ix for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:13:56 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Aug 2005 11:37:11 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.96,113,1122879600"; d="scan'208"; a="332755389:sNHT78010812" Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j7GIauoo008957; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailgun.cisco.com ([171.69.11.147]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:36:56 -0700 Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j7GIaUiw021238 for sctp-impl-filtered; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200508161836.j7GIaUiw021238@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1124217390-21236-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations List-Id: sctp-impl To: Randall Stewart From: "Peter Lei (peterlei)" Cc: "'Vlad Yasevich'" , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com, lksctp-developers@lists.sourceforge.net X-Nails-Approved: peterlei@cisco.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:36:19 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2005 18:36:56.0188 (UTC) FILETIME=[7AAA83C0:01C5A291] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 093efd19b5f651b2707595638f6c4003 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1124217390-21236-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary >> >>> To change this behavior, linger=1 must be set through setsockopt(). >> >> >> >> linger.l_onoff = 1 and linger.linger = 0 in order to ABORT all >> open associations. A non-zero linger.l_linger value would cause >> a graceful shutdown on open associations; the socket is not >> closed for application use until the linger.linger value time >> expires. >> >> The original question below deals with what should the proper >> behavior be when: >> linger.l_onoff = 1, linger.l_linger = 0, and autoclose is enabled. >> >> Basically, the autoclose setting should NOT matter in this case >> and all assocs should be abortively closed immediately. > > > If and only if the user does do a close() after the linger settings > are as above. Yes... > In cases where you just set linger to what is shown above > and let auto-close work.. then graceful shutdown's will happen. Yup... > Now I think what Vlad is asking is would it be worthwhile to have > something like a set of linger() settings that would effect autoclose > to do an ABORT(). Ah... I read the original question incorrectly/differently... > I don't think this is wise IMO since in theory the reason autoclose > happens is that you have sent all the data and the peer has > sent all the data.. and the association is just sitting there idle > heartbeatting... > > So aborting makes no sense to me in this case... I don't think, in > any case (if it was a desired property), we would want to mix > linger with autoclose.. we would need some other settings LIKE linger > but not the same. Agreed. We should not mix the linger and autoclose semantics. Also, I don't think it makes sense to do an "abortive auto-close". Vlad, what situations do you envision needing/wanting this type of behavior? --peter > R > >> >> regards, >> --peter >> >>> Is this a correct behavior, at least thats how I think LKSCTP behaves? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Anatoly >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Peter Lei (peterlei) [mailto:peterlei@cisco.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:49 PM >>> To: Vlad Yasevich >>> Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com; >>> lksctp-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >>> Subject: Re: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations >>> >>> >>> The abortive close of all associations is what I interpret a >>> linger = 1, lingertime = 0 to mean, regardless of the autoclose >>> settings on that socket. >>> >>> The close() call, with or without linger enabled and with or >>> without autoclose, would terminate all associations and free >>> the socket. Using autoclose simply does a normal shutdown on >>> associations on a socket after some specified idle time, but >>> will leave the socket allocated. There are uses for both, >>> and I don't see the conflict. >>> >>> regards, >>> --peter >>> >>> >>> Vlad Yasevich wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks >>>> >>>> Something that came up in recent conversations between myself and a >>>> collegue is whether the linger settings (specifically linger = 1 and >>>> lingertime = 0), should affect autoclose associations. >>>> >>>> If the user were to perform a close(), all the associations would be >>>> aborted in this situation. However, if the user were to do nothing, >>>> the associations would be closed with a normal shutdown procedure. >>>> >>>> I am thinking that it may be OK to abort associations when the >>>> autoclose >>>> is enabled and linger settings are specified with lingertimer of 0. >>>> >>>> What do others think? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -vlad >> >> >> >> > > ------------=_1124217390-21236-0-- From vladislav.yasevich@hp.com Tue Aug 16 14:48:42 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E56UL-0006cB-Qb for sctp-impl-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:48:42 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA28205 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E573j-00015a-38 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:25:16 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Aug 2005 11:48:31 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.96,113,1122879600"; d="scan'208"; a="332762874:sNHT75284760" Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j7GImBoo015685; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailgun.cisco.com ([171.69.11.147]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:48:11 -0700 Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j7GIlviw021415 for sctp-impl-filtered; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200508161847.j7GIlviw021415@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1124218076-21413-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations List-Id: sctp-impl To: Randall Stewart From: Vlad Yasevich Cc: "Peter Lei (peterlei)" , Anatoly Khusid , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com, lksctp-developers@lists.sourceforge.net X-Nails-Approved: vladislav.yasevich@hp.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:44:07 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2005 18:48:11.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[0CF210D0:01C5A293] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1124218076-21413-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Randall Stewart wrote: > Now I think what Vlad is asking is would it be worthwhile to have > something like a set of linger() settings that would effect autoclose > to do an ABORT(). Yep. 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boundary="----------=_1124237730-26508-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Close with unread data - (Was Re: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations) List-Id: sctp-impl To: Randall Stewart From: Sridhar Samudrala Cc: "Peter Lei (peterlei)" , Anatoly Khusid , "'Vlad Yasevich'" , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com, lksctp-developers@lists.sourceforge.net X-Nails-Approved: sri@us.ibm.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:05:35 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2005 00:17:25.0274 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B59A7A0:01C5A2C1] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 21c69d3cfc2dd19218717dbe1d974352 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1124237730-26508-0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 14:23 -0400, Randall Stewart wrote: > Peter Lei (peterlei) wrote: > > Anatoly Khusid wrote: > > > >> I thought the default behavior for close() is to gracefully terminate > >> SCTP > >> association? > > > > > > Yes, it should be... > > > I think this is true IF and ONLY IF the user has read > all the data. If the socket is closed with data still unread > then an ABORT is sent.. I believe this is true in TCP > as well.. aka a RST is set if you close and did not clear > your socket buffer... this is to alert the peer that you > did not read all the data that was acknowledged. Currently in lksctp, on close, we do a graceful shutdown when linger option is not set even if there is unread data in the socket buffer. This is definitely a bug. I would like to know how other implementations handle this case for 1-many style socket with multiple associations. Do they have a per-association receive queues or walk through the the single socket receive queue to identify the associations with unread data? The unread data may belong to only a subset of associations. So if we are doing this correct, only those associations need to be aborted and the remaining should go through a graceful shutdown. 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X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: Close with unread data - (Was Re: RFC: Linger and Autoclose of associations) List-Id: sctp-impl To: bidulock@openss7.org From: Sridhar Samudrala Cc: Randall Stewart , "Peter Lei (peterlei)" , Anatoly Khusid , "'Vlad Yasevich'" , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com, lksctp-developers@lists.sourceforge.net X-Nails-Approved: sri@us.ibm.com Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:50:43 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2005 17:56:22.0272 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA5A2800:01C5A354] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c3a18ef96977fc9bcc21a621cbf1174b This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1124301326-13250-0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Brian, On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 22:51 -0600, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: > For 1-to-many, I would think the analysis should be the same. If the > application closes the socket with unread data, an ABORT should be sent > on all associations belonging to that socket. I was referring to this specific case. linger is not set(l_onoff is 0). Even if the unread data belongs to only a subset of the associations, do you send ABORT on all the associations? Suppose i have a 1-many socket with 5 associations and there is single pending unread message belonging to assoc1, and the app does a close on the socket, i think the right behaviour would be to send ABORT on assoc1 and SHUTDOWN on the remaining 4 associations? Do you agree with this? Thanks Sridhar > If l_onoff is 1, and > l_linger is 0, an ABORT should be sent on all associations. If l_onoff > is 1, and l_linger is some time period, close() should block for that > period of time, or until all data has been transmitted and SHUTDOWN or > SHUTDOWN-ACK sent on all associations still able to send data. If the > timer expires, all associations with data still to be transmitted should > be aborted. If l_onoff is 0, and there is data waiting to be > transmitted, all such associations should be aborted. > > It think that 1-to-many should be treated as a bundle of 1-to-1 > associations, and close() treated as though close() was called > simultaneously for each of the associations in the bundle. But then > again, that is only if you consider 1-to-many to be "connection- > oriented" and not "connectionless". > > Those are my thoughts... ...hope it helps. > > --brian > > On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Sridhar Samudrala wrote: > > > On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 14:23 -0400, Randall Stewart wrote: > > > Peter Lei (peterlei) wrote: > > > > Anatoly Khusid wrote: > > > > > > > >> I thought the default behavior for close() is to gracefully terminate > > > >> SCTP > > > >> association? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it should be... > > > > > > > > > I think this is true IF and ONLY IF the user has read > > > all the data. If the socket is closed with data still unread > > > then an ABORT is sent.. I believe this is true in TCP > > > as well.. aka a RST is set if you close and did not clear > > > your socket buffer... this is to alert the peer that you > > > did not read all the data that was acknowledged. > > > > Currently in lksctp, on close, we do a graceful shutdown when linger > > option is not set even if there is unread data in the socket > > buffer. This is definitely a bug. > > > > I would like to know how other implementations handle this > > case for 1-many style socket with multiple associations. > > Do they have a per-association receive queues or walk through the > > the single socket receive queue to identify the associations with > > unread data? > > The unread data may belong to only a subset of associations. So if we > > are doing this correct, only those associations need to be aborted and > > the remaining should go through a graceful shutdown. > > > > Thanks > > Sridhar > > > ------------=_1124301326-13250-0-- From Pmppvxsq@dogmail.org Wed Aug 17 13:58:20 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E5SBA-0004Dg-Gx; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:58:20 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA14718; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host50.foretec.com ([65.246.255.50] helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E5Skj-00070E-QB; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:35:06 -0400 Received: from [58.74.151.53] (helo=lh) by mx2.foretec.com with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1E5SB8-0001ag-09; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:58:18 -0400 From: "Aldo Montano" To: rohc-admin@ietf.org Subject: Re: FYI Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:56:13 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_JDYRAJPQ.VECYTSQF" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: 4.8 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_JDYRAJPQ.VECYTSQF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear HomeOwner, After completing the review we are pleased to offer you the following, Your current mortgage qualifies you for more than a 3% lower rate! -------------------------------------------------------- !! 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All other should use the SHUTDOWN procedure. Best regards Michael On Aug 17, 2005, at 19:50 Uhr, Sridhar Samudrala wrote: > Brian, > > On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 22:51 -0600, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: > >> For 1-to-many, I would think the analysis should be the same. If the >> application closes the socket with unread data, an ABORT should be >> sent >> on all associations belonging to that socket. > > I was referring to this specific case. linger is not set(l_onoff is 0). > Even if the unread data belongs to only a subset of the associations, > do you send ABORT on all the associations? > Suppose i have a 1-many socket with 5 associations and there is single > pending unread message belonging to assoc1, and the app does a close on > the socket, i think the right behaviour would be to send ABORT on > assoc1 > and SHUTDOWN on the remaining 4 associations? Do you agree with this? > > Thanks > Sridhar > > >> If l_onoff is 1, and >> l_linger is 0, an ABORT should be sent on all associations. If >> l_onoff >> is 1, and l_linger is some time period, close() should block for that >> period of time, or until all data has been transmitted and SHUTDOWN or >> SHUTDOWN-ACK sent on all associations still able to send data. If the >> timer expires, all associations with data still to be transmitted >> should >> be aborted. If l_onoff is 0, and there is data waiting to be >> transmitted, all such associations should be aborted. >> >> It think that 1-to-many should be treated as a bundle of 1-to-1 >> associations, and close() treated as though close() was called >> simultaneously for each of the associations in the bundle. But then >> again, that is only if you consider 1-to-many to be "connection- >> oriented" and not "connectionless". >> >> Those are my thoughts... ...hope it helps. >> >> --brian >> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Sridhar Samudrala wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 14:23 -0400, Randall Stewart wrote: >>>> Peter Lei (peterlei) wrote: >>>>> Anatoly Khusid wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I thought the default behavior for close() is to gracefully >>>>>> terminate >>>>>> SCTP >>>>>> association? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, it should be... >>>> >>>> >>>> I think this is true IF and ONLY IF the user has read >>>> all the data. If the socket is closed with data still unread >>>> then an ABORT is sent.. I believe this is true in TCP >>>> as well.. aka a RST is set if you close and did not clear >>>> your socket buffer... this is to alert the peer that you >>>> did not read all the data that was acknowledged. >>> >>> Currently in lksctp, on close, we do a graceful shutdown when linger >>> option is not set even if there is unread data in the socket >>> buffer. This is definitely a bug. >>> >>> I would like to know how other implementations handle this >>> case for 1-many style socket with multiple associations. >>> Do they have a per-association receive queues or walk through the >>> the single socket receive queue to identify the associations with >>> unread data? >>> The unread data may belong to only a subset of associations. So if we >>> are doing this correct, only those associations need to be aborted >>> and >>> the remaining should go through a graceful shutdown. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Sridhar >>> >> ------------=_1124304439-14043-0-- From bowles@essexenv.com Wed Aug 17 15:15:50 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E5TOA-00086K-SP for sctp-impl-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:15:50 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA18867 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host50.foretec.com ([65.246.255.50] helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E5Txh-0000XL-Vm for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:52:35 -0400 Received: from pool-70-108-80-69.res.east.verizon.net ([70.108.80.69] helo=70.108.80.69) by mx2.foretec.com with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1E5TIR-0002P7-LD for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:09:56 -0400 Received: from battlefront.backwards.com (70.108.80.69) by utopia.backwards.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:05:21 +0000 Received: from iris972hfq20wm91u (14.27.340.959) by flair.backwards.com (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 794-880-377-609-239-188260) with SMTP id <787127087466.WMPWV36.MLNTVM863.backwards.com@ixemdrxkl9gg387ukn68kh> for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:02:58 +0000 Message-ID: <6648oksrsk$67ctwjb@cwdpma72548.anastomosis> From: "the56" To: sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org Subject: Cheap price softwares (dane hardboard skirmish) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 05:58:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--601395466282782" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f4c2cf0bccc868e4cc88dace71fb3f44 ----601395466282782 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-5179-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello sctp-impl-archive, Are u still using the old version of your windows operating system / office applications / Adobe / AutoCAD or Macromedia? 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