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[Secdispatch] FW: New Version Notification for draft-yee-ssh-iana-requirements-00.txt X-BeenThere: secdispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:02:34 -0000 Based on a CURDLE mailing list discussion [1] from last February, I've = generated an I-D that changes the requirement for IANA SSH protocol parameter registrations = from IETF Review to Expert Review. With CURDLE closing down, I'd like to see this = dispatched somewhere appropriate, probably to Security AD sponsorship. Thoughts? Questions? Thank you. -Peter [1] = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/curdle/gdiOlZr9bnrZv8umVyguGG3woIM/= -----Original Message----- From: internet-drafts@ietf.org =20 Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 7:39 PM To: Peter E. Yee ; Peter Yee Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-yee-ssh-iana-requirements-00.txt A new version of I-D, draft-yee-ssh-iana-requirements-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Peter E. Yee and posted to the IETF = repository. Name: draft-yee-ssh-iana-requirements Revision: 00 Title: Update to the IANA SSH Protocol Paremeters Registry Requirements Document date: 2022-01-10 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: = https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-yee-ssh-iana-requirements-00.txt Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yee-ssh-iana-requirements/ Html: = https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-yee-ssh-iana-requirements-00.html Htmlized: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-yee-ssh-iana-requirements Abstract: This specification updates the requirements for adding new entries to the IANA Secure Shell (SSH) Protocol Parameters registry. Currently, the requirement is generally for "IETF Review", as defined in RFC 8126, although a few portions of the registry require "Standards Action". This specification will change that former requirement to "Expert Review". = =20 The IETF Secretariat From nobody Tue Jan 25 06:09:03 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: secdispatch@ietf.org Delivered-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6383A1388; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 06:09:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: mohit.m.sethi@ericsson.com, rdd@cert.org, secdispatch-chairs@ietf.org, secdispatch@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.43.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <164311974125.6696.16991386539604876782@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 06:09:02 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Secdispatch] secdispatch - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 113 X-BeenThere: secdispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Security Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:09:02 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Mohit Sethi, a Chair of the secdispatch working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Security Dispatch Area Name: Security Area Session Requester: Mohit Sethi Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 200 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair conflict: rats emu saag Technology overlap: cfrg dispatch ace acme cose curdle dots gnap i2nsf ipsecme kitten lake lamps mls oauth openpgp privacypass sacm secevent suit teep tls pearg httpbis Key participant conflict: iotops People who must be present: Kathleen Moriarty Roman Danyliw Richard Barnes Paul Wouters Mohit Sethi Benjamin Kaduk Resources Requested: Special Requests: Please avoid conflict with any Security related BoF. --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Jan 31 08:13:26 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E763A0AE2; 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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - nlskm21.hostsila.org X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - openethics.ai X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: nlskm21.hostsila.org: authenticated_id: n.lukianets@openethics.ai X-Authenticated-Sender: nlskm21.hostsila.org: n.lukianets@openethics.ai X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Archived-At: Subject: [Secdispatch] Open Ethics Transparency Protocol X-BeenThere: secdispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 16:13:24 -0000 Hi everyone, Nikita Lukianets from the Open Ethics initiative here. I've been working on the mechanisms to enable transparency for data collection and data processing practices for autonomous systems and specifically, those powered by machine learning models. Since 2020 I have started to draft a guiding document to reflect ways disclosures could be submitted, verified, and exchanged. Eventually, I would like to see how this work could result in an open standard. I've chosen IETF as a home for this work as AI-powered applications are becoming ubiquitous. Therefore, we should start looking at them from the internet standard and supply chain perspectives. There's an emergent need to bring a legally-agnostic and standardized way to describe these systems from privacy, security, fairness, datasets, and explainability stances. The idea is simple * Following the example of the food (construction, pharma, electrical appliance) industry, we need every application to (voluntary) disclose the "ingredients", e.g. how data is collected and outputs are produced. * We need to have a standard way (protocol) to represent each disclosure in human- and machine-readable formats, validate, verify and process them. * Complex apps will involve chaining the disclosures for the components involved. My motivation is to continue the discussion here and get feedback allowing us to iterate on the protocol. I'd like to bring this discussion to a relevant group or/and welcome the creation of the new one, also potentially bringing the conversation to the IETF meeting in Vienna. Below are the links with more info Article to bring the context, in plain English https://lukianets.medium.com/why-algorithmic-transparency-needs-a-protocol-2b6d5098572f The IETF I-D https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lukianets-open-ethics-transparency-protocol/ GitHub repo https://github.com/OpenEthicsAI/OETP Thanks a lot for your help and thoughts Nikita Lukianets Founder, CTO PocketConfidant Founder Open Ethics initiative Twitter: @nikiluk https://fr.linkedin.com/in/nikiluk Schedule a 30 min call: https://lukianets.com/meet/ From nobody Mon Jan 31 12:46:48 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B913A172C; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:46:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sandelman.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id miu3Yp_oojJq; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:46:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C37E3A1731; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:46:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFE038EE0; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 15:53:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21TWZuTus16L; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 15:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E5E38ED4; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 15:53:29 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1643662409; bh=EWIKmqAjZTktsvBGXQ/oegpYYjehVnGT/R7ow5h2yIQ=; h=From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ojyPlxr0Gb6eVztoLlYWZrQGNLdDOV/FwFHjMOImaDwfY45ifnCIOyS4PXf63pwC8 yU0l6v3eYDo3EXSDKwrLIGc4DEXxiM3qo4EQWWKuvCJ2u5KMMIX2CyW2ljXtfyjkdI LZcY1W68zFoge43suhfKBpd+UrSkU0a0D2KjTVV0otLz/hdY6mouEPL+iI2MMmIQH5 92Wg2b2UkwUBUm/LxMihKvDvpO7D1etVRoFrKxFXGXn/1SInbkgHPtR4AQlfuv3DNX kPCjf4NRBvX85BM3S3ZRnNOBjfwt6OIHUCBbI0Gek25/SCu/oFCa0PJhwjVTn/GVCc GG/zbY8oYIABw== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA0C1CC; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 15:46:21 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: n.lukianets@openethics.ai cc: art@ietf.org, secdispatch@ietf.org, dispatch@ietf.org, hrpc@irtf.org In-Reply-To: <6dac86b0eb3b96490dadffdc0f1d307a@openethics.ai> References: <6dac86b0eb3b96490dadffdc0f1d307a@openethics.ai> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] Open Ethics Transparency Protocol X-BeenThere: secdispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 20:46:34 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable n.lukianets@openethics.ai wrote: > I've been working on the mechanisms to enable transparency for data > collection and data processing practices for autonomous systems and > specifically, those powered by machine learning models. Since 2020 I > have started to draft a guiding document to reflect ways disclosures > could be submitted, verified, and exchanged. Eventually, I would like > to see how this work could result in an open standard. Are you talking about security disclosures? Or something else? I read the connected links and I think it has something to do with disclosi= ng risks with Machine Learning systems. > I've chosen IETF as a home for this work as AI-powered applications a= re > becoming ubiquitous. Therefore, we should start looking at them from > the internet standard and supply chain perspectives. There's an > emergent need to bring a legally-agnostic and standardized way to > describe these systems from privacy, security, fairness, datasets, and > explainability stances. ... > The idea is simple * Following the example of the food (construction, > pharma, electrical appliance) industry, we need every application to > (voluntary) disclose the "ingredients", e.g. how data is collected and > outputs are produced. * We need to have a standard way (protocol) to Sounds like a kind of (software) Bill of Materials. SBOM is not really occuring inside the IETF, but rather at places like NIST. We have some of it in the MUD (RFC8520) space, some in SACM (CoRIM), but mostly it is at NIST/NTIA. I don't think SBOM fits at all though. > Below are the links with more info Article to bring the context, in > plain English > https://lukianets.medium.com/why-algorithmic-transparency-needs-a-pro= tocol-2b6d5098572f I read this, but and while it explained some of the why, it didn't make it clear what your how is. > The IETF I-D > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lukianets-open-ethics-transpar= ency-protocol/ I scanned your document. You have a pretty good grasp of a reasonable syntax, and in some ways it is similiar to securitytxt in syntax. But, I don't really understand the semantics of the content, and your examp= le in section 5 didn't help me at all. I think you need a more detailed, more well worked set of examples to motivate things. 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[73.158.116.21]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x17sm19162302pfa.105.2022.01.31.17.22.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:22:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: Larry Masinter From: Larry Masinter X-Google-Original-From: "Larry Masinter" To: "'Michael Richardson'" , Cc: , , , References: <6dac86b0eb3b96490dadffdc0f1d307a@openethics.ai> <3343.1643661981@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3343.1643661981@localhost> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:22:14 -0800 Message-ID: <004f01d8170a$25c35620$714a0260$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQJ0xNx4xnf/PTT5tNuOxHOOtOP9agErbCJiqzstDmA= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] [art] Open Ethics Transparency Protocol X-BeenThere: secdispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2022 01:22:23 -0000 Check out https://github.com/w3ctag/ethical-web-principles which seems to have some momentum and some similar goals. -- https://LarryMasinter.net https://interlisp.org