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Good to see that -04 has made it (after a re-issue of -03).

I think it is fine but could be improved with some minor emendations to the
language, namely

- URL appears nine times - I think URI is better in each case

- 3.3 lacks / as a reserved character which 4.3 I think rightly includes

- s /the/they/ in the last phrase of 3.3 and 4.3

- path-empty could be removed from 2

- 4.5 talks of UTF which is a character encoding scheme or character encoding
syntax, or a transformation format (depending on which standards body you are
in).  I suggest amending the sentence to be

"Path segments SHOULD be represented in the UTF-8 [RFC3629] character
   encoding syntax and clients SHOULD NOT disable UTF-8 encoding on the server
   with the filename-translation-control extension.  "

I note that secsh-filexfer does use  "... MUST send all filenames encoded in
UTF-8" even if the parameter name uses the work translation (unfortunately:-).

Finally, draft-shur-pack-uri-scheme-00.txt gives a new (for me) slant of how to
deal with authority,  path and / - I will be interested to see how it is
received.

Tom Petch




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Folks, I'm holding a discuss on the ssh publickeyfile draft because  IANA
doesn't understand what they are supposed to do.
The IANA change is one I didn't see discussed on the list and it seems to have introduced problems.

Bill, I assume you can work to resolution on this.


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Sam,

Sorry for the delayed response.

I have reviewed the new version and have put new comments in the tracker.
However, the IANA Considerations section still needs work.  There is not much detail regarding what type of registry, are these values, what are the registration procedures, etc.

If you need for me to look at a new version of the IANA Considerations section, please let me know.

Thanks,

Michelle
IANA


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Hi. the IANA considerations for this draft used to include no actions but
now includes actions. I'd appreciate it if you would review these actions.




 

 
           


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The introduction of the iana section was in
response to a comment by Jacob Nevins with
regards to this section:

3.3.3.  New Headers

   Headers with header-tags beginning with "x-" are considered
   experimental, and may be used without IETF consensus.

   All other headers are reserved for use only by IETF consensus.

Jacob noted in his email:
> Doesn't this imply the existence of an IANA registry, contrary
to what
> section 5 "IANA Considerations" says?

I'll see if I can work on a little bit more for the IANA section
(text welcome if someone knows exactly what details IANA needs.)

Thanks,

Joseph

Sam Hartman wrote:
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> doesn't understand what they are supposed to do.
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> 
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> 
> Sorry for the delayed response.
> 
> I have reviewed the new version and have put new comments in the tracker.
> However, the IANA Considerations section still needs work.  There is not much detail regarding what type of registry, are these values, what are the registration procedures, etc.
> 
> If you need for me to look at a new version of the IANA Considerations section, please let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michelle
> IANA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Hartman [mailto:hartmans-ietf@mit.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:59 PM
> To: iana@iana.org
> Subject: Please re-review draft-ietf-secsh-publickeyfile
> 
> 
> Hi. the IANA considerations for this draft used to include no actions but
> now includes actions. I'd appreciate it if you would review these actions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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>            
> 




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Jeffrey Hutzelman writes:
> I think we need an RFC Errata on this one... :-(

In case anyone else was wondering: an erratum has been submitted, and
is visible in a public mbox folder:
<ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/pending-errata/pending-errata.msgs>
but RFC-Editor is not processing errata at the moment, so this won't
be visible from the RFC Search page:
<http://www.rfc-editor.org/news.html> (15 November 2005)



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Joseph Galbraith writes:
> The introduction of the iana section was in response to a comment by
> Jacob Nevins [...]

It was also noted by the IESG (Brian Carpenter quoting Joel Halpern's
Gen-ART review).

> I'll see if I can work on a little bit more for the IANA section
> (text welcome if someone knows exactly what details IANA needs.)

I guess RFC2434/BCP0026 might be of use?

Could it be as simple as moving the language about "IETF Consensus" and
X-headers to the IANA Considerations section, and referencing 2434?



