From nobody Sun Jul 1 06:37:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDFC130DFA; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 06:37:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id epW67b6Cn8r8; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 06:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot0-x241.google.com (mail-ot0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40C441277CC; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 06:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot0-x241.google.com with SMTP id i17-v6so14705342otl.1; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 06:37:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=VSgvjui/lWlOKTtWTDOEdLAs+i5lwQhdynNiG953CZ8=; b=rB2tOmyQgYXX0xO3Zp7LxICwlx9qijtxCb8vHjpSE0uuEalaGMC878/nk1V1ccJHkL Gli58Ts7aE1BmW+nlpMVYarrHa6rOyxXg/sdVNs6eI53OGv2fQ0prCy/uVUneuhyhRk5 B6j4pomlFWQWPZp5zvnuQlMPIWSDZlhWhn3fNTP7wzCcVzp04ktbqvlMItFuREtYVe9y JskbHX+K8OAKLVNB8qo+oy2jn4y6r8cl9xL6BN3iOGRG26ra+QcV0fQjKvn5eES3QvaA e8kmyI27QHjDYQK2LTABB40rwggopSI/zwj35DmLbNytU/cpN8BKv1H7l5jxUf6NtNnr G3Rg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VSgvjui/lWlOKTtWTDOEdLAs+i5lwQhdynNiG953CZ8=; b=rmarYh9Smr4mC0eh8pkXbwpYuAj2haPVI3QRqaw8Kx4bbmEYPkmopTqcA7c9qzUrKC AvqjgrrRckuqOsG3UCm1be78y/4wKj3g+zDvNcLxie6wbxiqOkIyd0vGuM5+gZ5k4RoO pcqN5rGUUi8eSkD+mJ2TZ7Q/cR8NqTI235bVR6SHo3kZloEGtZsfQ5KFtu9O6roE95MR e3m0kNUMNGTMOPGADsiChyAbpm+tTRUCnVaTY9lrk4uXJh+KO/2sotptHvJ85XdhGDCA uWjwFS3eKnenSn0NOsNQz/F5vMblEhNpOfUnMQDr5jZcfS9dBnDa28tUgEniKwHnxsW/ tBrg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E0RTxqjGfREhjIJqYBoqwleKu2RXXqaSZcfz9Mtle6BTGnO7P2l yTEgd68BTqllx/zwbOk4NVl/L11mv9bQ4HeaxM8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpchpzXOToMcKyCdVE3BeuSIszo+DW8ZMwQ6U3sAlXkj7YnoqZknzq9i/QSmg/dQpcecLqi0AdBozlOG4+9kb7I= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:e18:: with SMTP id c24-v6mr6967675otc.371.1530452258690; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 06:37:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a9d:30c2:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 06:37:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 09:37:18 -0400 Message-ID: To: Tal Mizrahi Cc: sfc@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000399b34056ff02f7e" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] IETF 102 SFC - Draft Agenda X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 13:37:41 -0000 --000000000000399b34056ff02f7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Tal, Your URL had a typo, it should be https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/agenda-102-sfc-00 Cheers, Andy On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 2:56 AM, Tal Mizrahi wrote: > Hi, > > A draft agenda of the SFC session has been uploaded: > https://datatracker.ietf..org/meeting/102/materials/agenda-102-sfc-00 > > > If you have any comments or requests, please let us know ( > sfc-chairs@ietf.org). > > Cheers, > Tal. > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > > --000000000000399b34056ff02f7e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tal,=

Your URL had a typo, it s= hould be=C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materia= ls/agenda-102-sfc-00

Cheers,
Andy


On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 2:56 AM, Tal Mizrahi <tal.mizrahi.ph= d@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,=C2=A0

A draft agenda of the SFC= session has been uploaded:
https://data= tracker.ietf..org/meeting/102/materials/agenda-102-sfc-00

If you have any comments or requests, please let us k= now (sfc-chairs@ie= tf.org).

Cheers,
Tal.

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Hi Andy,

Many thanks.
Indeed,= very strange. Some of the recipients received the mail with a typo in the = URL, while others received the right URL.
For example, in the mai= l archive it seems to be fine:

Cheers,
Tal.


On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 4:3= 7 PM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
Tal,


Cheers,
Andy

=

= On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 2:56 AM, Tal Mizrahi <tal.mizrahi.phd@gma= il.com> wrote:
Hi,=C2=A0

A draf= t agenda of the SFC session has been uploaded:

If you hav= e any comments or requests, please let us know (sfc-chairs@ietf.org).

Cheers,
Tal.

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Hi Joel, Jim, Tal, et. al,
I hope that you'll kind= ly consider my late request for the presentation slot.=C2=A0

=
In the new draft=C2=A0 Identification of Overlay Operations, = Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) analyzed. A significant part of the d= ocument is on SFC NSH.

draft-mirsky-rtgwg-oam-identify=C2=A0presenter: Greg Mirsky=C2=A0 time: 10 min
=

Regards,
= Greg

On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 11:56 PM, Tal Mizrahi <<= a href=3D"mailto:tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tal.mizrahi.p= hd@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,=C2=A0

A draft agenda of the SF= C session has been uploaded:
https://dat= atracker.ietf..org/meeting/102/materials/agenda-102-sfc-00

If you have any comments or requests, please let us = know (sfc-chairs@i= etf.org).

Cheers,
Tal.

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Richard Yang" , qiao.xiang@cs.yale.edu, "Christian Rodolfo E. Rothenberg" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000388a0305700ca7d1" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto-00.txt X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 23:35:58 -0000 --000000000000388a0305700ca7d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear WG members. The main idea behalf this draft is to start a discussion (SFC, ALTO as well as other WGs) regarding if, how, and under what conditions ALTO can be useful to improve the multi-domain SFC process. This version provides arguments why ALTO is a meaningful protocol in the context of SFC traversing different domains, and it presents use case examples about the how ALTO can be used to advertise and discover (abstract) topology, resource and service information from different domains, and then compute inter-domain service function paths. Any comment, question, and suggestion from the WGs would be greatly appreciated. Ss Danny Lachos On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 5:12 PM wrote: > > A new version of I-D, draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Danny Alex Lachos Perez and posted to > the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto > Revision: 00 > Title: Multi-domain Service Function Chaining with ALTO > Document date: 2018-07-02 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 14 > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto-00.txt > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto/ > Htmlized: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto-00 > Htmlized: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto > > > Abstract: > Currently, Service Function Chaining (SFC) that span domains with > different technology, administration or ownership are being defined > by the SFC WG. This document focuses on how the Application Layer > Traffic Optimization (ALTO) protocol can be used to advertise and > discover abstract topology, resource and service information from > different domains, and then compute inter-domain service function > paths. Another important concern of this draft is to initiate a > discussion (ALTO, SFC as well as other WGs) regarding if, how, and > under what conditions ALTO can be useful to improve the multi-domain > SFC process. > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > --000000000000388a0305700ca7d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear WG members.

The main idea behalf this draft is= to start a=C2=A0discussion (SFC, ALTO as well as other WGs) regarding if, = how, and under what conditions ALTO can be useful to improve the multi-doma= in SFC process.

This version provides arguments why ALTO is = a meaningful protocol in the context of SFC traversing different domains, a= nd it presents use case examples about the how ALTO can be used to advertis= e and discover (abstract) topology, resource and service information from d= ifferent domains, and then compute inter-domain service function paths.
=
Any comment,=C2=A0question, and sugges= tion=C2=A0from the WGs would be greatly appreciated.

Ss

Danny Lachos

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 5:12 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

A new version of I-D, draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Danny Alex Lachos Perez and posted to th= e
IETF repository.

Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc= -alto
Revision:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A000
Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Multi-domain Service Function Chai= ning with ALTO
Document date:=C2=A0 2018-07-02
Group:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Individual Submission
Pages:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 14
URL:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-al= to-00.txt
Status:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://d= atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto/
Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://tools.iet= f.org/html/draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto-00
Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://da= tatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto


Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Currently, Service Function Chaining (SFC) that span domains w= ith
=C2=A0 =C2=A0different technology, administration or ownership are being de= fined
=C2=A0 =C2=A0by the SFC WG.=C2=A0 This document focuses on how the Applicat= ion Layer
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Traffic Optimization (ALTO) protocol can be used to advertise = and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0discover abstract topology, resource and service information f= rom
=C2=A0 =C2=A0different domains, and then compute inter-domain service funct= ion
=C2=A0 =C2=A0paths.=C2=A0 Another important concern of this draft is to ini= tiate a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0discussion (ALTO, SFC as well as other WGs) regarding if, how,= and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0under what conditions ALTO can be useful to improve the multi-= domain
=C2=A0 =C2=A0SFC process.





Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

The IETF Secretariat

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--_000_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93302DF50C43OPEXCLILMA3corp_-- From nobody Tue Jul 3 09:07:16 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438A113102D; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 09:00:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.81.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <153063362727.4893.17591922612884131088.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 09:00:27 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] sfc - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 102 X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:00:39 -0000 Dear Tal Mizrahi, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. sfc Session 1 (2:00 requested) Thursday, 19 July 2018, Afternoon Session II 1550-1750 Room Name: Place du Canada size: 300 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/sessions/sfc.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Service Function Chaining Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Tal Mizrahi Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 120 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: bess idr i2nsf ippm mpls nvo3 spring rtgwg lisp ntp teas People who must be present: Joel M. 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I would like to request a slot to present the draft of =E2=80=9CMulti-domai= n Service Function Chaining with ALTO=E2=80=9D: Time needed: 5-8 minutes Name of presenter: Qiao Xiang / Danny Alex Lachos Perez (Remote Participation) I-D: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lachos-multi-domain-sfc-alto/ Thanks in advance for the consideration. Cheers, Danny Lachos On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 5:12 AM Tal Mizrahi wrote: > Hi, > > We are starting to work on the agenda for the SFC session in IETF 102. > > If you have a draft that you would like to discuss, please send a request > to sfc-chairs@ietf.org including the name of the draft, the presenter's > name, and how much time you need. > > Also please make note of the draft cutoff date, which is the 2nd of July. > If you are planning to update your draft(s) before IETF 102, we encourage > you to do so as soon as possible, to allow people to review the drafts > before the meeting. > > Please note that a preliminary version of the agenda for IETF 102 is > available: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/agenda.html > > Cheers, > Tal. > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > --000000000000a585160570427873 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear SFC WG chairs.

I w= ould like to request a slot to present the draft of =E2=80=9CMulti-domain S= ervice Function Chaining with ALTO=E2=80=9D:

Time needed: 5-8 minutes
Name of present= er: Qiao Xiang / Danny Alex Lachos Perez (Remote Participation)

Thanks= in advance for the consideration.

Cheers,

Danny Lachos


On Tue, Jun 19= , 2018 at 5:12 AM Tal Mizrahi <tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

=
We are starting to work on the agenda for the SFC se= ssion in IETF 102.

If you = have a draft that you would like to discuss, please send a request to= =C2=A0sfc-chairs@ietf.org=C2=A0includi= ng the name of the draft, the presenter's name, and how much time you n= eed.

Also please make note= of the draft cutoff date, which is the 2nd of July. If you are planning to= update your draft(s) before IETF 102, we encourage you to do so as soon as= possible, to allow people to review the drafts before the meeting.

Please note that a preliminary ve= rsion of the agenda for IETF 102 is available:

Che= ers,
Tal.

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draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:57:59 -0000 --_000_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93302DF6456EOPEXCLILMA3corp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear authors, I read this draft but it is unclear to me why ECN-related bits have to be m= irrored in the NSH. IMO, if any congestion handling is needed, this should = be left to the transport encapsulation rather than creating a cascading mod= el like the one proposed in the draft. Is there any value in disseminating the congestion notification in NSH whil= e this can be by the transport encapsulation scheme? Thank you. Cheers, Med --_000_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93302DF6456EOPEXCLILMA3corp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear authors,

 

I read this draft but it is unclear to me w= hy ECN-related bits have to be mirrored in the NSH. IMO, if any congestion = handling is needed, this should be left to the transport encapsulation rather than creating a cascading model like the one proposed= in the draft.

 

Is there any value in disseminating the con= gestion notification in NSH while this can be by the transport encapsulatio= n scheme?

 

Thank you.

 

Cheers,

Med

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Med,

We can go into this more during th= e presentation, but not all transports have native ECN markings.
=
Cheers,
Andy


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:5= 7 PM, <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
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Dear authors,

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I read this draft but it is unclear to me w= hy ECN-related bits have to be mirrored in the NSH. IMO, if any congestion = handling is needed, this should be left to the transport encapsulation rather than creating a cascading model like the one proposed= in the draft.

=C2=A0

Is there any value in disseminating the con= gestion notification in NSH while this can be by the transport encapsulatio= n scheme?

=C2=A0

Thank you.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Med


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-0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a6b:bf84:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 13:15:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93302DF6461F@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93302DF6456E@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93302DF6461F@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> From: Donald Eastlake Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 16:15:35 -0400 Message-ID: To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Cc: "Andrew G. Malis" , "draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cac1380571379c7e" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 20:15:53 -0000 --000000000000cac1380571379c7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Med, I feel that carrying ECN in the NSH is the most robust. - If you try to just carry it in the outer transport header, that requires that ECN be preserved through all boxes, even say an SFF that receives with one transport and sends with a different transport. Since all boxes inside the SFC domain have to preserve ECN, it is kind of delicate and you really can't do incremental deployment in the interior. - If you try to not have it in the NSH but preserve it in the inner payload transport header, copying to the outer transport and combining back into the inner transport, then if the ultimate source to final destination path does not support ECN, you can't do ECN to manage congestion within the SFC domain without further mechanisms. Thanks, Donald =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 1424 Pro Shop Court, Davenport, FL 33896 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM, wrote: > Re-, > > > > Thank you, Andy. > > > > Shouldn=E2=80=99t this be fixed for each of these encap schemes (e.g., > draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim)? > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > > *De :* Andrew G. Malis [mailto:agmalis@gmail.com] > *Envoy=C3=A9 :* mardi 17 juillet 2018 15:11 > *=C3=80 :* BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN > *Cc :* draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org > *Objet :* Re: draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support > > > > Med, > > > > We can go into this more during the presentation, but not all transports > have native ECN markings. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:57 PM, wrote: > > Dear authors, > > > > I read this draft but it is unclear to me why ECN-related bits have to be > mirrored in the NSH. IMO, if any congestion handling is needed, this shou= ld > be left to the transport encapsulation rather than creating a cascading > model like the one proposed in the draft. > > > > Is there any value in disseminating the congestion notification in NSH > while this can be by the transport encapsulation scheme? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > --000000000000cac1380571379c7e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Med,

I feel that carrying ECN in the= NSH is the most robust.

- If you try to just carr= y it in the outer transport header, that requires that ECN be preserved thr= ough all boxes, even say an SFF that receives with one transport and sends = with a different transport. Since all boxes inside the SFC domain have to p= reserve ECN, it is kind of delicate and you really can't do incremental= deployment in the interior.

- If you try to not h= ave it in the NSH but preserve it in the inner payload transport header, co= pying to the outer transport and combining back into the inner transport, t= hen if the ultimate source to final destination path does not support ECN, = you can't do ECN to manage congestion within the SFC domain without fur= ther mechanisms.

Thanks,
D= onald
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=C2=A0Donald E. Eastlake 3rd =C2=A0 +1-508-3= 33-2270 (cell)
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On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM, <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:

Re-,

=C2=A0

Thank you, Andy.

=C2=A0

Shouldn=E2=80=99t this be fixed= for each of these encap schemes (e.g., draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update= -shim)?

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Med

=C2=A0

De=C2=A0: Andr= ew G. Malis [mailto:= agmalis@gmail.com]
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: mardi 17 juillet 2018 15:11
=C3=80=C2=A0: BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN
Cc=C2=A0: draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support@ietf.org= ; sfc@ietf.org
Objet=C2=A0: Re: draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support

=C2=A0

Med,

=C2=A0

We can go into this more during the presentation, bu= t not all transports have native ECN markings.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Andy

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:57 PM, <mohamed.boucadair@orange= .com> wrote:

Dear authors,

=C2=A0

I read this draft but it is unclear to me w= hy ECN-related bits have to be mirrored in the NSH. IMO, if any congestion handling is needed, this should be left to the transport encaps= ulation rather than creating a cascading model like the one proposed in the= draft.

=C2=A0

Is there any value in disseminating the con= gestion notification in NSH while this can be by the transport encapsulatio= n scheme?

=C2=A0

Thank you.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Med

=C2=A0


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Malis" Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 17:04:19 -0400 Message-ID: To: "BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN" Cc: "draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005da8e40571384b7a" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:04:48 -0000 --0000000000005da8e40571384b7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Med, In section 5, that draft supports the use of our draft for the NSH (see the bottom of page 8). Cheers, Andy On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM, wrote: > Re-, > > > > Thank you, Andy. > > > > Shouldn=E2=80=99t this be fixed for each of these encap schemes (e.g., > draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim)? > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > > *De :* Andrew G. Malis [mailto:agmalis@gmail.com] > *Envoy=C3=A9 :* mardi 17 juillet 2018 15:11 > *=C3=80 :* BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN > *Cc :* draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org > *Objet :* Re: draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support > > > > Med, > > > > We can go into this more during the presentation, but not all transports > have native ECN markings. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:57 PM, wrote: > > Dear authors, > > > > I read this draft but it is unclear to me why ECN-related bits have to be > mirrored in the NSH. IMO, if any congestion handling is needed, this shou= ld > be left to the transport encapsulation rather than creating a cascading > model like the one proposed in the draft. > > > > Is there any value in disseminating the congestion notification in NSH > while this can be by the transport encapsulation scheme? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > --0000000000005da8e40571384b7a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Med,

In section 5, that draft supports = the use of our draft for the NSH (see the bottom of page 8).

=
Cheers,
Andy


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:21 PM,= <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:

Re-,

=C2=A0

Thank you, Andy.

=C2=A0

Shouldn=E2=80=99t this be fixed= for each of these encap schemes (e.g., draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update= -shim)?

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Med

=C2=A0

De=C2=A0: Andr= ew G. Malis [mailto:= agmalis@gmail.com]
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: mardi 17 juillet 2018 15:11
=C3=80=C2=A0: BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN
Cc=C2=A0: draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support@ietf.org= ; sfc@ietf.org
Objet=C2=A0: Re: draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support

=C2=A0

Med,

=C2=A0

We can go into this more during the presentation, bu= t not all transports have native ECN markings.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Andy

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:57 PM, <mohamed.boucadair@orange= .com> wrote:

Dear authors,

=C2=A0

I read this draft but it is unclear to me w= hy ECN-related bits have to be mirrored in the NSH. IMO, if any congestion handling is needed, this should be left to the transport encaps= ulation rather than creating a cascading model like the one proposed in the= draft.

=C2=A0

Is there any value in disseminating the con= gestion notification in NSH while this can be by the transport encapsulatio= n scheme?

=C2=A0

Thank you.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Med

=C2=A0


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Hi,

A draft version of the m= inutes has been posted:

https://datatracker.ietf= .org/meeting/102/materials/minutes-102-sfc-00

Pl= ease take a look and let us know if there are any comments or corrections.<= /div>
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Thanks to John Stras= sner who helped with the minutes.

Cheers,
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Also, we've added text to clarify how active OAM is identified in NSH. Appreciate your reviews, questions, comments, and suggestions. Dear WG Chairs, we believe that the draft is stable, readable, and addresses very much needed technical aspect of OAM in SFC, to empower operators with the right tools to operate SFC in networks. Appreciate your consideration to issuing a call for WG adoption of this draft. Regards, Greg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:28 AM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-wang-sfc-multi-layer-oam-11.txt To: Bhumip Khasnabish , Gregory Mirsky < gregimirsky@gmail.com>, Wei Meng , "Cui(Linda) Wang" < lindawangjoy@gmail.com> A new version of I-D, draft-wang-sfc-multi-layer-oam-11.txt has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-wang-sfc-multi-layer-oam Revision: 11 Title: Active OAM for Service Function Chains in Networks Document date: 2018-07-26 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 15 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wang-sfc-multi- layer-oam-11.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-sfc-multi- layer-oam/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-sfc-multi-layer- oam-11 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wang-sfc-multi- layer-oam Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-wang-sfc-multi- layer-oam-11 Abstract: A set of requirements for active Operation, Administration and Maintenance (OAM) of Service Function Chains (SFCs) in networks is presented. Based on these requirements an encapsulation of active OAM message in SFC and a mechanism to detect and localize defects described. Also, this document updates RFC 8300 in the definition of O (OAM) bit in the Network Service Header (NSH) and defines how the active OAM message identified in SFC NSH. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --0000000000006309810571e71a0c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All,
we've updated this draft to position it = as the definition and introduction of active OAM in SFC NSH in networks. Al= so, we've added text to clarify how active OAM is identified in NSH.
Appreciate your reviews, questions, comments, and suggestions.

Dear WG Chairs,
we believe that the draft is= stable, readable, and addresses very much needed technical aspect of OAM i= n SFC, to empower operators with the right tools to operate SFC in networks= . Appreciate your consideration to issuing=C2=A0a call for WG adoption of t= his draft.

Regards,
Greg
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
Date: Thu, Jul= 26, 2018 at 6:28 AM
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-wang-sf= c-multi-layer-oam-11.txt
To: Bhumip Khasnabish <bhumip.khasnabish@ztetx.com>, Gregory Mirs= ky <gregimirsky@gmail.com&g= t;, Wei Meng <meng.wei2@zte.com.= cn>, "Cui(Linda) Wang" <lindawangjoy@gmail.com>



A new version of I-D, draft-wang-sfc-multi-layer-oam-11.txt
has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the
IETF repository.

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Revision:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A011
Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Active OAM for Service Function Ch= ains in Networks
Document date:=C2=A0 2018-07-26
Group:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Individual Submission
Pages:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 15
URL:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wang-sfc-multi-layer= -oam-11.txt
Status:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://datat= racker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-sfc-multi-layer-oam/
Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://tools.ietf.or= g/html/draft-wang-sfc-multi-layer-oam-11
Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://datatr= acker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wang-sfc-multi-layer-oam
Diff:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0htt= ps://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-wang-sfc-multi-layer-oam-1= 1

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0A set of requirements for active Operation, Administration and=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Maintenance (OAM) of Service Function Chains (SFCs) in network= s is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0presented.=C2=A0 Based on these requirements an encapsulation = of active
=C2=A0 =C2=A0OAM message in SFC and a mechanism to detect and localize defe= cts
=C2=A0 =C2=A0described.=C2=A0 Also, this document updates RFC 8300 in the d= efinition of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0O (OAM) bit in the Network Service Header (NSH) and defines ho= w the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0active OAM message identified in SFC NSH.




Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

The IETF Secretariat


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(128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3216A1C010A; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 07:55:15 -0700 (PDT) To: Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de, sfc@ietf.org References: From: "Joel M. Halpern" Message-ID: <98b5370a-6b16-b203-28d3-3e01aed44b7f@joelhalpern.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 10:55:14 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] IETF 102 - SFC Minutes X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 14:55:18 -0000 Part of the point I made at the time was that I had sent my concerns directly to you, and had specifically asked that you acknowledge (not agree, not make a change, but acknowledge) the questions in your presentation. While there are likely other issues, there were two important issues I commented on: 1) requiring a name resolution process in a fast path packet forwarding logic is painful. We are even careful about how one deals with initially populating information from IPv6 ND (and IPv4 ARP). And those have very long lifetime. The argument for this mechanism is specifically to improve dynamics, so it requires very short lifetimes. 2) While some systems do insert packets into TCP tunnels, it has to be done with care, as it significantly complicates the buffering and packet handling. It may be that you do not intend (as was said to me afterwards) to use TCP. But the document specifically points to http:, which is over TCP. Yours, Joel On 7/27/18 4:44 AM, Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de wrote: > Dear all, > > unfortunately I could not attend the session and follow the discussion. > From the minutes below I read that on draft ‘Name-Based Service > Function Forwarder (nSFF) component within SFC framework’Joel saw a > number of issues that he asked the authors to address which I don’t know > in detail. Have they be posted here on the list? > > Nevertheless I had a quick view on the draft and find it interesting in > providing a way to propose concrete SFC handling on different > L2/L3-based transport. > > My main suggestions to improve readability even more are > > -              To separate customer service related use case from more > operational ones e.g. on p.1: > > use cases such as IoT, Content Distribution, Gaming, Network functions > …=> use cases both customer related ones such as … as well as > operational (or operator related) ones such as Network functions … > > -              to explain some more acronyms (vTOR, AND/CMP, …), > > -              to ensure consistency (on p.9 the text refers to > ‘Delivery function in Fig. 3’ which I couldn’t find there), > > -              and the question whether in 5.4.2 it should read ‘in > steps 8 and 11’ instead of ‘in steps 8 and 10’ as I understood that step > 11 with adding new TE information resembles encapsulation. > > Furthermore I think I found some nits and typos which I directly > reported to the authors for final check. > > Thanks! > > Best Regards > Dirk > > *From:*sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Tal Mizrahi > *Sent:* Samstag, 21. 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