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--000000000000b144370598db33f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tal, All, I don't have any IPR in this area. Sorry for the delay. Thanks, Ramki On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:33 AM Tal Mizrahi wrote: > Sam and Ramki, > > Will appreciate if you can respond to Jim's question regarding IPRs. > > Thanks, > Tal. > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:28 PM James Guichard < > james.n.guichard@futurewei.com> wrote: > >> Dear WG: >> >> >> >> This email closes the WG LC for draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-09. The >> chairs have concluded that there is enough support to move this document >> forward for publication as an Informational RFC. Authors, please confirm >> that any IPR you are aware of has been declared. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Jim & Joel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* James Guichard >> *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2019 9:15 AM >> *To:* sfc@ietf.org >> *Subject:* RE: WG Last Call draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-06 >> >> >> >> Dear WG: >> >> >> >> Before closing this WG Last Call, we (the chairs) would like to better >> understand the level of interest and commitment the WG has on progressin= g >> OAM work for SFC, starting with draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework as a baseli= ne. >> Please reply to this email with either support for the document, or >> non-support (we do not need this document). Silence does not imply suppo= rt >> or lack thereof so please take time to state your opinions with a brief >> rational for support/non-support. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Jim & Joel >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* James Guichard >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:30 AM >> *To:* sfc@ietf.org >> *Subject:* WG Last Call draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-06 >> >> >> >> Dear WG: >> >> >> >> This message starts a new two week WG Last Call on advancing >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework/ >> >> for publication as an Informational RFC. >> >> >> >> Substantive comments and statements of support for publishing this >> document should be directed to the mailing list. Editorial suggestions c= an >> be sent to the authors. This last call will end on 11th June 2019. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Jim & Joel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sfc mailing list >> sfc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >> > --=20 Thanks, Ramki --000000000000b144370598db33f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Tal, All,

I don't have an= y IPR in this area. Sorry for the delay.

Thanks,
Ramki
<= /div>
O= n Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:33 AM Tal Mizrahi <tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com> wrote:
= Sam and Ramki,

Will appreciate if you can respond to Jim= 's question regarding IPRs.

Thanks,
= Tal.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:28 PM James Guichard <james.n.guichard@futu= rewei.com> wrote:

Dear WG:

=C2=A0

This email closes the WG LC for draft-ietf-sfc-oam-f= ramework-09. The chairs have concluded that there is enough support to move= this document forward for publication as an Informational RFC. Authors, pl= ease confirm that any IPR you are aware of has been declared.

=C2=A0

Thanks!

=C2=A0

Jim & Joel

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: James Guichard
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To: sfc@ietf.org
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=C2=A0

Dear WG:

=C2=A0

Before closing this WG Last Call, we (the chairs) wo= uld like to better understand the level of interest and commitment the WG h= as on progressing OAM work for SFC, starting with draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framew= ork as a baseline. Please reply to this email with either support for the document, or non-support (we do not= need this document). Silence does not imply support or lack thereof so ple= ase take time to state your opinions with a brief rational for support/non-= support.

=C2=A0

Thanks!

=C2=A0

Jim & Joel

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Dear WG:=

=C2=A0

This message starts a new two= week WG Last Call on advancing http= s://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework/ for publication as an Informational RFC.

=C2=A0

Substantive comments and stat= ements of support for publishing this document should be directed to the ma= iling list. Editorial suggestions can be sent to the authors.=C2=A0 This la= st call will end on 11th June 2019.

=C2=A0

Thanks!<= /p>

=C2=A0

Jim & Joel<= /span>

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--000000000000b144370598db33f5-- From nobody Wed Dec 4 07:10:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212FD12008C for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 07:10:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QQ7ysfpZRShA for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 07:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ed1-x52d.google.com (mail-ed1-x52d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95ABC12081D for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 07:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ed1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id cx19so7043530edb.1 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 07:10:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bBUNmN0M1FX1xE1sJ7TpxbfKbanUOcNOS5XOWgvKUuY=; b=eIFqCoGVltfuD6IiuMDgkuDz41fxYyPvLyvQa11RNjL7NbjU75W2DuWQeVaZqN6/m8 xwuJcUok7xegWB5O50osZWtyRsTU97tM2V2Ecbx+UjlZHQTso/Di4YBRtm8gOipH0WDN VelxPfIoPe5SX4V0qOp5+wLuM09DlmlYld6FRTB6UAjkVbiK/FXpO7gTGhw5mBiyi9kE eSQb3TPCINpcKUvcZgSMroML5uv/q+5IEUVtFjuiW+PksU2USjRG9HUyBBdMNZ9YMYOx cYCCdhDQuL4VTViCecua3fW8j3dvMZZGPVlGy150xTTwxp+z3mJQng+pUyr9CTeTHUbB 5mrA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bBUNmN0M1FX1xE1sJ7TpxbfKbanUOcNOS5XOWgvKUuY=; b=cvKib8fLA0h7CeQeGOPm/IlNFTKmbpRcBDl9QTIm1CYWhyYOMpLr8UoeFchevFVc/I sgI4A7H83oyzm/ik5OPaEvG1/4RMier/NFjbdEOs3XqVMGHEb/MXHyqGs8GhtWlNgdCy 4Rbk/vzr2Ya9kWGGHWTRwrXv2Y5HKvEei+xnzZPL6Vn6zI0/na3QlD4m+q0BG4diKW38 dptVfoZBVMxilE0Y153EH75AR6rPQ2QMmHUuy8YsBIImLprTbMs0JC++mtbCTrZnlPod y1IhtSRwnKtCyUj/CzfbL+1uKP8dnH356mq5Uk1pWSX7TWyXqvELhi17uh5JWtNw3dTm h6/A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXaevIV2946Pwj0nE/0M0gRIpF9S9y3FfgpKzSA2B33LzLE5wqV uPGdTDyhlPGCpnN01+JKb7R6E6PbGw997dst18g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxH4oH55FpfAoqM8Bwtd+Y0nZTnRIiN98rt66gDtOzPlubfxEzvlxvytZFjGmwhtwOWY8+fzN8YI8j+n4lIK3A= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:4dd0:: with SMTP id f16mr3589910ejw.332.1575472213992; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 07:10:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Sam Aldrin Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 07:10:03 -0800 Message-ID: To: Anoop Ghanwani Cc: James Guichard , sfc@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ab2ae90598e235fe" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] WG Last Call draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-09 X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 15:10:18 -0000 --000000000000ab2ae90598e235fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft. Sam On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 8:44 AM Anoop Ghanwani wrote: > I am not aware of any IPR. > > Thanks, > Anoop > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 6:27 AM James Guichard < > james.n.guichard@futurewei.com> wrote: > >> Dear WG: >> >> >> >> This email closes the WG LC for draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-09. The >> chairs have concluded that there is enough support to move this document >> forward for publication as an Informational RFC. Authors, please confirm >> that any IPR you are aware of has been declared. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Jim & Joel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* James Guichard >> *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2019 9:15 AM >> *To:* sfc@ietf.org >> *Subject:* RE: WG Last Call draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-06 >> >> >> >> Dear WG: >> >> >> >> Before closing this WG Last Call, we (the chairs) would like to better >> understand the level of interest and commitment the WG has on progressin= g >> OAM work for SFC, starting with draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework as a baseli= ne. >> Please reply to this email with either support for the document, or >> non-support (we do not need this document). Silence does not imply suppo= rt >> or lack thereof so please take time to state your opinions with a brief >> rational for support/non-support. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Jim & Joel >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* James Guichard >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:30 AM >> *To:* sfc@ietf.org >> *Subject:* WG Last Call draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-06 >> >> >> >> Dear WG: >> >> >> >> This message starts a new two week WG Last Call on advancing >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework/ >> >> for publication as an Informational RFC. >> >> >> >> Substantive comments and statements of support for publishing this >> document should be directed to the mailing list. Editorial suggestions c= an >> be sent to the authors. This last call will end on 11th June 2019. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Jim & Joel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sfc mailing list >> sfc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >> > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > --000000000000ab2ae90598e235fe Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Sam

On Tue, Jul 2= 3, 2019, 8:44 AM Anoop Ghanwani <anoop@alumni.duke.edu> wrote:
I am not aware of any IPR.

Thanks,
Anoop

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 6= :27 AM James Guichard <james.n.guichard@futurewei.com>= ; wrote:

Dear WG:

=C2=A0

This email closes the WG LC for draft-ietf-sfc-oam-f= ramework-09. The chairs have concluded that there is enough support to move= this document forward for publication as an Informational RFC. Authors, pl= ease confirm that any IPR you are aware of has been declared.

=C2=A0

Thanks!

=C2=A0

Jim & Joel

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: James Guichard
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 9:15 AM
To: sfc@ietf.org
Subject: RE: WG Last Call draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-06<= /u>

=C2=A0

Dear WG:

=C2=A0

Before closing this WG Last Call, we (the chairs) wo= uld like to better understand the level of interest and commitment the WG h= as on progressing OAM work for SFC, starting with draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framew= ork as a baseline. Please reply to this email with either support for the document, or non-support (we do not= need this document). Silence does not imply support or lack thereof so ple= ase take time to state your opinions with a brief rational for support/non-= support.

=C2=A0

Thanks!

=C2=A0

Jim & Joel

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: James Guichard
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:30 AM
To: sfc@ietf.org
Subject: WG Last Call draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-06<= /p>

=C2=A0

Dear WG:=

=C2=A0

This message starts a new two= week WG Last Call on advancing https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framewor= k/ for publication as an Informational RFC.

=C2=A0

Substantive comments and stat= ements of support for publishing this document should be directed to the ma= iling list. Editorial suggestions can be sent to the authors.=C2=A0 This la= st call will end on 11th June 2019.

=C2=A0

Thanks!<= /p>

=C2=A0

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--000000000000ab2ae90598e235fe-- From nobody Wed Dec 11 05:51:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2916812009C for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 05:51:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=joelhalpern.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9NGNKHTWjLWT for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 05:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from maila2.tigertech.net (maila2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63EB912007A for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 05:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47Xyyv2FSqz6GCj7 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 05:51:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=joelhalpern.com; s=2.tigertech; t=1576072311; bh=xGQ0wKidLRpcUyL5CvTa89enJCtBIHZ5/+KxjxMojQY=; h=Subject:References:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=N0YQWYom70CZBRrMrvTSIERldOtlv1Y2eJBevmC3wGWbljbeDy18nxY8CG59n8xRt 1aAtjiIfwqmq9QJhMWkNA1BBfWlHf+MRd6o2gDL8RKi3wz4RVe7SSs6CdUaW7wFcyO dk+4dDaKjMl4a5zbghCDS374aJu9I0EAYNjdol7M= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at a2.tigertech.net Received: from [192.168.128.43] (209-255-163-147.ip.mcleodusa.net [209.255.163.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47Xyyt6Ksjz6GChw for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 05:51:50 -0800 (PST) References: <157599887144.9975.7887971558651782704.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "sfc@ietf.org" From: "Joel M. Halpern" X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <157599887144.9975.7887971558651782704.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <71423503-e1a3-31f1-43fc-527a0004ec2a@joelhalpern.com> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 08:51:47 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <157599887144.9975.7887971558651782704.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 13:51:53 -0000 Starting WG Last call. See comment below for description. Thank you, Joel -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com, tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 From: IETF Secretariat To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed to "In WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ Comment: This starts the working group last call for this document. It has been discussed on the email list. We need to see responses. If you see issues with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up now. And please be clear about what your concerns are. At the same time, if you think that publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group, please speak up. As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to the TLV draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we have gotten that document unstuck. Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I am giving the document a 4 week last call. Thank you for your time and attention, Joel (& Jim) From nobody Wed Dec 11 23:11:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6761200FD for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 23:11:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iTBDvpEbolZm for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 23:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.orange.com (relais-inet.orange.com [80.12.66.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2388912008C for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 23:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from opfedar04.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.6]) by opfedar27.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 47YQ2S5s0gz2xcs; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 08:11:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.89]) by opfedar04.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 47YQ2S51Nmz1xnn; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 08:11:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::e878:bd0:c89e:5b42]) by OPEXCAUBM44.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0468.000; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 08:11:28 +0100 From: To: "Joel M. Halpern" , "sfc@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header Thread-Index: AQHVsCoq//fIcB6esEqgJgn7w4VPtqe2FdAw Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 07:11:28 +0000 Message-ID: <31711_1576134688_5DF1E820_31711_489_1_88132E969123D14D9BD844E1CD516EDE3B48871D@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <157599887144.9975.7887971558651782704.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <71423503-e1a3-31f1-43fc-527a0004ec2a@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <71423503-e1a3-31f1-43fc-527a0004ec2a@joelhalpern.com> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.13.245] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 07:11:32 -0000 Hello sfc WG, I believe this document is useful to optimize SFC design and operation, it'= s in good shape and should be moved forward. Cheers, Christian. -----Message d'origine----- De=A0: sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Joel M. Halpern Envoy=E9=A0: mercredi 11 d=E9cembre 2019 14:52 =C0=A0: sfc@ietf.org Objet=A0: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-hea= der Starting WG Last call. See comment below for description. Thank you, Joel -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com,=20 tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 From: IETF Secretariat To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed to "In WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ Comment: This starts the working group last call for this document. It has been discussed on the email list. We need to see responses. If you see issues with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up now. And please be clear about what your concerns are. At the same time, if you think that publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group, please=20 speak up. As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to the TLV draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we have gotten that document unstuck. Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I am giving the document a 4 week last call. Thank you for your time and attention, Joel (& Jim) _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Halpern" Cc: "sfc@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a57f51059987ffcf" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 20:57:54 -0000 --000000000000a57f51059987ffcf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I support this draft. It provides useful features. Minor point: for completeness, the descriptions of header fields in Sections 3 and 4 should include all fields. Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 8:52 AM Joel M. Halpern wrote: > Starting WG Last call. See comment below for description. > Thank you, > Joel > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header > Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) > Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org > Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com, > tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 > From: IETF Secretariat > To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org > > > The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed to > "In > WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ > > Comment: > This starts the working group last call for this document. It has been > discussed on the email list. We need to see responses. If you see issues > with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up now. And please > be > clear about what your concerns are. At the same time, if you think that > publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group, please > speak > up. > > As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to the TLV > draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we have gotten > that document unstuck. > > Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I am > giving the document a 4 week last call. > > Thank you for your time and attention, > Joel (& Jim) > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > --000000000000a57f51059987ffcf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support this draft. It provides useful features.
Minor point: for completeness, the descriptions of header field= s in Sections 3 and 4 should include all fields.

Thanks,
Donald
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=C2=A0Donald E. East= lake 3rd =C2=A0 +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
=C2=A02386 Panoramic Circle, Apop= ka, FL 32703 USA
=C2=A0d3e3e3@gmail.com


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 8:52= AM Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalp= ern.com> wrote:
Starting WG Last call.=C2=A0 See comment below for description.
Thank you,
Joel


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header
Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST)
Resent-From: al= ias-bounces@ietf.org
Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com,
tal.mizrahi.= phd@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800
From: IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>
To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org


The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed to &q= uot;In
WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dr= aft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/

Comment:
This starts the working group last call for this document.=C2=A0 It has bee= n
discussed on the email list.=C2=A0 We need to see responses.=C2=A0 If you s= ee issues
with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up now.=C2=A0 And ple= ase be
clear about what your concerns are.=C2=A0 =C2=A0At the same time, if you th= ink that
publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group, please speak
up.

As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to the TLV<= br> draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we have gotten<= br> that document unstuck.

Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I am
giving the document a 4 week last call.

Thank you for your time and attention,
Joel (& Jim)

_______________________________________________
sfc mailing list
sfc@ietf.org
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Halpern" , "sfc@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header Thread-Index: AdWzrEDyZl1urY31Q8aji7iTviLtJg== Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 01:07:17 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.134.31.203] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 01:07:29 -0000 SSBiZWxpZXZlIHRoaXMgZHJhZnQgaXMgdW5kZXIgdW1icmVsbGEgb2YgZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1zZmMt Y29udHJvbC1wbGFuZS0wOCwgc3VnZ2VzdCB0byBhZGQgcmVmZXJlbmNlIHRvIGl0Lg0KSW4gYWRk aXRpb24sIEl0IHdpbGwgYmUgZ3JlYXQgdG8gYWRkIHVzYWdlIGV4YW1wbGUgb2YgbmV3IGRlZmlu ZWQgc3Vic2NyaWJlciBpZGVudGlmaWVyIGFuZCBQZXJmb3JtYW5jZSBQb2xpY3kgSWRlbnRpZmll ci4NCkJlc2lkZXMgdGhlc2UsIEkgdGhpbmsgdGhpcyBkcmFmdCBpcyByZWFkeSB0byBnby4NCg0K LVFpbg0KLS0tLS3Tyrz+1K28/i0tLS0tDQq3orz+yMs6IHNmYyBbbWFpbHRvOnNmYy1ib3VuY2Vz QGlldGYub3JnXSC0+rHtIEpvZWwgTS4gSGFscGVybg0Kt6LLzcqxvOQ6IDIwMTnE6jEy1MIxMcjV IDIxOjUyDQrK1bz+yMs6IHNmY0BpZXRmLm9yZw0K1vfM4jogW3NmY10gRndkOiBJRVRGIFdHIHN0 YXRlIGNoYW5nZWQgZm9yIGRyYWZ0LWlldGYtc2ZjLXNlcnZpY2VpZC1oZWFkZXINCg0KU3RhcnRp bmcgV0cgTGFzdCBjYWxsLiAgU2VlIGNvbW1lbnQgYmVsb3cgZm9yIGRlc2NyaXB0aW9uLg0KVGhh bmsgeW91LA0KSm9lbA0KDQoNCi0tLS0tLS0tIEZvcndhcmRlZCBNZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tLS0tDQpT dWJqZWN0OiBJRVRGIFdHIHN0YXRlIGNoYW5nZWQgZm9yIGRyYWZ0LWlldGYtc2ZjLXNlcnZpY2Vp ZC1oZWFkZXINClJlc2VudC1EYXRlOiBUdWUsIDEwIERlYyAyMDE5IDA5OjI3OjUxIC0wODAwIChQ U1QpDQpSZXNlbnQtRnJvbTogYWxpYXMtYm91bmNlc0BpZXRmLm9yZw0KUmVzZW50LVRvOiBqYW1l cy5uLmd1aWNoYXJkQGZ1dHVyZXdlaS5jb20sIGptaEBqb2VsaGFscGVybi5jb20sIHRhbC5taXpy YWhpLnBoZEBnbWFpbC5jb20NCkRhdGU6IFR1ZSwgMTAgRGVjIDIwMTkgMDk6Mjc6NTEgLTA4MDAN CkZyb206IElFVEYgU2VjcmV0YXJpYXQgPGlldGYtc2VjcmV0YXJpYXQtcmVwbHlAaWV0Zi5vcmc+ DQpUbzogZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1zZmMtc2VydmljZWlkLWhlYWRlckBpZXRmLm9yZywgc2ZjLWNoYWly c0BpZXRmLm9yZw0KDQoNClRoZSBJRVRGIFdHIHN0YXRlIG9mIGRyYWZ0LWlldGYtc2ZjLXNlcnZp Y2VpZC1oZWFkZXIgaGFzIGJlZW4gY2hhbmdlZCB0byAiSW4NCldHIExhc3QgQ2FsbCIgZnJvbSAi V0cgRG9jdW1lbnQiIGJ5IEpvZWwgSGFscGVybjoNCg0KaHR0cHM6Ly9kYXRhdHJhY2tlci5pZXRm Lm9yZy9kb2MvZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1zZmMtc2VydmljZWlkLWhlYWRlci8NCg0KQ29tbWVudDoNClRo aXMgc3RhcnRzIHRoZSB3b3JraW5nIGdyb3VwIGxhc3QgY2FsbCBmb3IgdGhpcyBkb2N1bWVudC4g IEl0IGhhcyBiZWVuDQpkaXNjdXNzZWQgb24gdGhlIGVtYWlsIGxpc3QuICBXZSBuZWVkIHRvIHNl ZSByZXNwb25zZXMuICBJZiB5b3Ugc2VlIGlzc3Vlcw0Kd2l0aCBwdWJsaXNoaW5nIHRoaXMgZG9j dW1lbnQgYXMgYW4gUkZDLCBwbGVhc2Ugc3BlYWsgdXAgbm93LiAgQW5kIHBsZWFzZSBiZQ0KY2xl YXIgYWJvdXQgd2hhdCB5b3VyIGNvbmNlcm5zIGFyZS4gICBBdCB0aGUgc2FtZSB0aW1lLCBpZiB5 b3UgdGhpbmsgdGhhdA0KcHVibGlzaGluZyB0aGlzIGFzIGFuIFJGQyBpcyBhIGdvb2QgdGhpbmcg Zm9yIHRoZSB3b3JraW5nIGdyb3VwLCBwbGVhc2UgDQpzcGVhaw0KdXAuDQoNCkFzIGEgbm90ZSBm b3IgdGhvc2Ugd2hvIG1heSBiZSBjb25jZXJuZWQgYWJvdXQgdGhlIHJlbGF0aW9uc2hpcCB0byB0 aGUgVExWDQpkcmFmdCwgdGhlIGNoYWlycyBoYXZlIG5vdGljZWQgdGhhdCBwcm9ibGVtLCBhbmQg d2UgYmVsaWV2ZSB3ZSBoYXZlIGdvdHRlbg0KdGhhdCBkb2N1bWVudCB1bnN0dWNrLg0KDQpHaXZl biB0aGUgcHJvcGVuc2l0eSBmb3IgcGVvcGxlIHRvIGRpc2FwcGVhciBhdCB0aGlzIHRpbWUgb2Yg eWVhciwgSSBhbQ0KZ2l2aW5nIHRoZSBkb2N1bWVudCBhIDQgd2VlayBsYXN0IGNhbGwuDQoNClRo YW5rIHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciB0aW1lIGFuZCBhdHRlbnRpb24sDQpKb2VsICgmIEppbSkNCg0KX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCnNmYyBtYWlsaW5n IGxpc3QNCnNmY0BpZXRmLm9yZw0KaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5m by9zZmMNCg== From nobody Sun Dec 15 17:26:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17831200A3 for ; 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Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:26:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=joelhalpern.com; s=2.tigertech; t=1576459605; bh=pnsL/zofhrh/MDj+48B3VHOlA829+MMML36wYd+XPqw=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=GZ2yipeqOlUvpTVVy1PTKLSyuQ1andsM6JmpG7vON3mGSDiJWr5a7jtNqH52fMHLw iB21yAmBI8aKFI3ImMbH4X25UB1V92uu/LcL5AcNW/KhV99WqlctPj4dppQ8Bby/KN B1ytmvoTm4sgKCQCg8OsAauuoaX83ejiZTNEAVhE= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at a2.tigertech.net Received: from [192.168.128.43] (209-255-163-147.ip.mcleodusa.net [209.255.163.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47bkBr1SH4z6G87d; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:26:44 -0800 (PST) To: Qin Wu , "sfc@ietf.org" References: From: "Joel M. Halpern" Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 20:26:42 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gbk; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 01:26:47 -0000 I am not confident that I follow your reasoning. So let me restate slightly, and then add some observations and questions. You appear to be observing that the information as to what serviceID could come from the control plane framework. Is that what you are getting at? That draft has not been updated in more than 3 years, expired for 2.5 years. It does not appear that the working group has any interest in the document. When it was last considered, there was a lot of controversey about the draft, and if I recall correctly no agreement that it was structured the right way. Our approach to metadata, and for that matter to SPFID selection, and to the forwarding entries in SFF, has been that the information can come from a number of places and we do not tie the definitions to the mechanisms used to provide them. As such, I do not understand what form of reference would be appropriate, even if the cited document were an active WG document. Yours, Joel On 12/15/2019 8:07 PM, Qin Wu wrote: > I believe this draft is under umbrella of draft-ietf-sfc-control-plane-08, suggest to add reference to it. > In addition, It will be great to add usage example of new defined subscriber identifier and Performance Policy Identifier. > Besides these, I think this draft is ready to go. > > -Qin > -----ʼԭ----- > : sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] Joel M. Halpern > ʱ: 20191211 21:52 > ռ: sfc@ietf.org > : [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header > > Starting WG Last call. See comment below for description. > Thank you, > Joel > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header > Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) > Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org > Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com, tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 > From: IETF Secretariat > To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org > > > The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed to "In > WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ > > Comment: > This starts the working group last call for this document. It has been > discussed on the email list. We need to see responses. If you see issues > with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up now. And please be > clear about what your concerns are. At the same time, if you think that > publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group, please > speak > up. > > As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to the TLV > draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we have gotten > that document unstuck. > > Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I am > giving the document a 4 week last call. > > Thank you for your time and attention, > Joel (& Jim) > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > From nobody Sun Dec 15 20:10:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260C51200B4 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 20:10:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dhdFIzvnToTv for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 20:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 059E6120059 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2019 20:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from LHREML714-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id E905793C3B7CB3C50BC1 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 04:10:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEML424-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.1.199.41) by LHREML714-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 04:10:53 +0000 Received: from DGGEML511-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.39]) by dggeml424-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.1.199.41]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:10:50 +0800 From: Qin Wu To: "Joel M. 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by IMSVA (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E0AA8E605A; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 13:36:18 +0900 (JST) X-IMSS-HAND-OFF-DIRECTIVE: localhost:10026 Received: from zssg-mailmf104.ddreams.local (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C898E605A; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 13:36:17 +0900 (JST) Received: from zssg-mailua105.ddreams.local (unknown [10.160.172.62]) by zssg-mailmf104.ddreams.local (Postfix) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 13:36:17 +0900 (JST) Received: from rcR9101318 (unknown [10.171.96.193]) by zssg-mailua105.ddreams.local (dDREAMS) with ESMTPA id <0Q2L017QN8SE7T11@dDREAMS>; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 13:36:14 +0900 (JST) From: Shunsuke Homma References: <157599887144.9975.7887971558651782704.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <71423503-e1a3-31f1-43fc-527a0004ec2a@joelhalpern.com> In-reply-to: <71423503-e1a3-31f1-43fc-527a0004ec2a@joelhalpern.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 13:36:14 +0900 Message-id: <000301d5b3ca$59ae0480$0d0a0d80$@hco.ntt.co.jp_1> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-language: ja Thread-index: AQHVYpH9R96HV3RunLwFWrsfMzwM0QIqZvm+p6t7ezA= X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 To: "'Joel M. Halpern'" , sfc@ietf.org X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC/Mail Relayed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 04:36:30 -0000 Hi authors, I agree with that subscriber id will be useful, and simultaneously I have some questions on Performance Policy Identifier as below: - In my understanding, SFC path and SF instance selection will be done at CF as starting point of SFC, and these information would be implied in SFP. Why is the information needed to be represented as metadata in context header? (I agree that information for policy selection at SFs would be needed because, for example, customers use multiple applications and they may have different requirements for processes at SFs.) - ULL and UHR should be fulfilled as e2e communication, and some interwork with underlay transport (and maybe user plane in 3GPP if it is used in mobile network) would be needed. Don't you describe some means how to interwork with other layers by using performance policy identifier? Also, I have some small comments: - This document uses some 3GPP terms such as SGi and P/S-GW, and 3GPP documents(e.g., TS23.401) should be referred. - SGi and P/S-GW are terms of 4G, but 5G is coming soon, thus why don't you add 5G terms (e.g., N6/DN, UPF) in addition to 4G terms? Regards, Shunsuke -----Original Message----- From: sfc On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:52 PM To: sfc@ietf.org Subject: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header Starting WG Last call. See comment below for description. Thank you, Joel -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com, tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 From: IETF Secretariat To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed to "In WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ Comment: This starts the working group last call for this document. It has been discussed on the email list. We need to see responses. If you see issues with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up now. And please be clear about what your concerns are. At the same time, if you think that publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group, please speak up. As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to the TLV draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we have gotten that document unstuck. Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I am giving the document a 4 week last call. Thank you for your time and attention, Joel (& Jim) _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc From nobody Mon Dec 16 00:33:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA9C120104; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 00:33:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tal Mizrahi via Datatracker To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.113.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: iesg-secretary@ietf.org, Tal Mizrahi , tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com, sfc-chairs@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <157648522504.21605.4358209313158645367.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 00:33:45 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-11 X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 08:33:45 -0000 Tal Mizrahi has requested publication of draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-11 as Informational on behalf of the SFC working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework/ From nobody Mon Dec 16 08:53:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7C6120052; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 08:53:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.113.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <157651523551.21504.17620418930335994507@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 08:53:55 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01.txt X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 16:53:56 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the IETF. Title : Network Service Header TLVs Authors : Yuehua (Corona) Wei Paul Quinn Uri Elzur Sumandra Majee Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2019-12-15 Abstract: This draft describes Network Service Header (NSH) MD-Type 2 metadata TLVs that can be used within a service function path. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Dec 16 09:05:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFDC1208D5 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:05:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=joelhalpern.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dGN5bX_v0juw for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:05:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from maila2.tigertech.net (maila2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0574F1208BE for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:05:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47c72F6szNz6GD1r for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:05:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=joelhalpern.com; s=2.tigertech; t=1576515941; bh=fX8HEq/ndHA1cjlFi/iIEHUgWSdkSV+HZJUhtf0ATC4=; h=Subject:References:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Vvxz6MDh7Wu6YUwy8zTK7v+9RmnubVVraOfunNFyhiWXOXStA5RBSEpX9kSanLsyq 5aHF0WXF6tdagIIetXp4YAIUCvRMYZZjfiHYTRyl/lcwTkALHDXfL4ASkElMXYpwxG s1NIMaCfjXNkWFMr4vAT4ocVZu9AmT0ImfJwz9zc= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at a2.tigertech.net Received: from [192.168.128.43] (209-255-163-147.ip.mcleodusa.net [209.255.163.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47c72F3x2nz6G7JV for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:05:41 -0800 (PST) References: <157651523551.21504.17620418930335994507@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "sfc@ietf.org" From: Joel Halpern X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <157651523551.21504.17620418930335994507@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <2393cba8-6525-116d-34ae-5c72f034653a@joelhalpern.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:05:38 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <157651523551.21504.17620418930335994507@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01.txt X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 17:05:44 -0000 As you may have seen, there is a new revision of the SFC NSH TLV draft. This is an important working group draft. The chairs apologize for allowing it to expire. We have recruited a new editor, thank you Corana, who has refreshed the draft. She is now reviewing the draft to see what changes she believes are needed. She will send that information to the list. Meanwhile, it would be good if working group members would review the draft and send any comments or suggestions to the list. Yours, Joel (& Jim) -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [sfc] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01.txt Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 08:53:55 -0800 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org Reply-To: sfc@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org CC: sfc@ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the IETF. Title : Network Service Header TLVs Authors : Yuehua (Corona) Wei Paul Quinn Uri Elzur Sumandra Majee Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2019-12-15 Abstract: This draft describes Network Service Header (NSH) MD-Type 2 metadata TLVs that can be used within a service function path. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-tlv-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc From nobody Tue Dec 17 19:04:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EEF120045 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 17:45:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AfvdkgQPQWiZ for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 17:45:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CD82120043 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 17:45:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 166ECF4070F; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 17:45:18 -0800 (PST) To: paulq@cisco.com, uri.elzur@intel.com, cpignata@cisco.com, db3546@att.com, aretana.ietf@gmail.com, martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: alissa@cooperw.in, sfc@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20191218014518.166ECF4070F@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 17:45:18 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 19:04:25 -0800 Subject: [sfc] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8300 (5939) X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 01:45:37 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8300, "Network Service Header (NSH)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5939 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Alissa Cooper Section: 8.2.1 Original Text ------------- Given that NSH is transport independent, as mentioned above, a secure transport, such as IPsec can be used for carry NSH. Corrected Text -------------- Given that NSH is transport independent, as mentioned above, a secure transport, such as IPsec, can be used for carrying NSH. Notes ----- There is subject-verb disagreement in the RFC text. Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC8300 (draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-28) -------------------------------------- Title : Network Service Header (NSH) Publication Date : January 2018 Author(s) : P. Quinn, Ed., U. Elzur, Ed., C. Pignataro, Ed. 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Fair points raised!=20 We therefore addressed the ways to control SFC entities according to servic= e specific policies/rules by saying in the draft:=20 =3D=3D Thus, the performance policy identifier allows for the distributed enforcement of a per-service policy such as a service function path to only include specific SFs instances. Details of this process are implementation-specific. For illustration purposes, an SFF may retrieve the details of usable SFs based upon the corresponding performance policy identifier. Typical criteria for instantiating specific SFs include location, performance, or proximity considerations. For the particular case of UHR services, the stand- by operation of back-up capacity or the deployment of multiple SF instances may be requested. =3D=3D ... and think that - especially a dynamic SFP choice - cannot be achieved b= y CF alone.=20 Regarding e2e communication we think that actually any SFC decision relies = on underlying transport or user plane layers and routing decisions to be en= forced there. So a description of interworking mechanisms seems to ber out = of scope for our document. If you think it would help of course we could st= ate this explicitly. =20 We are fine to add references to 3GPP specs and extending to 5G NFs as UPF = etc. where applicable! Thanks again! Best regards - on behalf of the co-authors Dirk =20 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: sfc On Behalf Of Shunsuke Homma > Sent: Montag, 16. Dezember 2019 05:36 > To: 'Joel M. Halpern' ; sfc@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for=20 > draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid- header >=20 > Hi authors, >=20 > I agree with that subscriber id will be useful, and simultaneously I=20 > have some questions on Performance Policy Identifier as below: > - In my understanding, SFC path and SF instance selection will be done=20 > at CF as starting point of SFC, and these information would be implied in= SFP. > Why is the information needed to be represented as metadata in context=20 > header? (I agree that information for policy selection at SFs would be=20 > needed because, for example, customers use multiple applications and=20 > they may have different requirements for processes at SFs.) > - ULL and UHR should be fulfilled as e2e communication, and some=20 > interwork with underlay transport (and maybe user plane in 3GPP if it=20 > is used in mobile network) would be needed. Don't you describe some=20 > means how to interwork with other layers by using performance policy iden= tifier? >=20 > Also, I have some small comments: > - This document uses some 3GPP terms such as SGi and P/S-GW, and 3GPP=20 > documents(e.g., TS23.401) should be referred. > - SGi and P/S-GW are terms of 4G, but 5G is coming soon, thus why=20 > don't you add 5G terms (e.g., N6/DN, UPF) in addition to 4G terms? >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Shunsuke >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: sfc On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:52 PM > To: sfc@ietf.org > Subject: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for=20 > draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid- header >=20 > Starting WG Last call. See comment below for description. > Thank you, > Joel >=20 >=20 > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header > Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) > Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org > Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com,=20 > tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 > From: IETF Secretariat > To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed=20 > to "In WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ >=20 > Comment: > This starts the working group last call for this document. It has=20 > been discussed on the email list. We need to see responses. If you=20 > see issues with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up=20 > now. 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<20191220041028.581E8F40743@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 20:10:28 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] [Errata Verified] RFC8300 (5939) X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 04:10:50 -0000 The following errata report has been verified for RFC8300, "Network Service Header (NSH)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5939 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Editorial Reported by: Alissa Cooper Date Reported: 2019-12-18 Verified by: RFC Editor Section: 8.2.1 Original Text ------------- Given that NSH is transport independent, as mentioned above, a secure transport, such as IPsec can be used for carry NSH. Corrected Text -------------- Given that NSH is transport independent, as mentioned above, a secure transport, such as IPsec, can be used for carrying NSH. Notes ----- Grammar issue: "carry" should be "carrying". -------------------------------------- RFC8300 (draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-28) -------------------------------------- Title : Network Service Header (NSH) Publication Date : January 2018 Author(s) : P. Quinn, Ed., U. Elzur, Ed., C. Pignataro, Ed. Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Service Function Chaining Area : Routing Stream : IETF From nobody Fri Dec 20 09:09:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EFB120856 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:09:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6dvvs9-uA9Lt for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:09:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9AEB12084D for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:09:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (unknown [119.94.167.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5709735DF54; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 18:09:49 +0100 (CET) To: "Joel M. Halpern" References: From: Loa Andersson Cc: "sfc@ietf.org" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 01:09:47 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 17:09:55 -0000 Joel, A naive question inline. On 16/12/2019 09:26, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > I am not confident that I follow your reasoning.   So let me restate > slightly, and then add some observations and questions. > > You appear to be observing that the information as to what serviceID > could come from the control plane framework.  Is that what you are > getting at? > > That draft has not been updated in more than 3 years, expired for 2.5 Is what you say that draft-ietf-sfc-control-plane has not been changed for 3 years and expired for 2.5? Sometimes umbrella documents is useful, in this case we seems to be doing good without one. /Loa > years.  It does not appear that the working group has any interest in > the document.  When it was last considered, there was a lot of > controversey about the draft, and if I recall correctly no agreement > that it was structured the right way. > > Our approach to metadata, and for that matter to SPFID selection, and to > the forwarding entries in SFF, has been that the information can come > from a number of places and we do not tie the definitions to the > mechanisms used to provide them. > > As such, I do not understand what form of reference would be > appropriate, even if the cited document were an active WG document. > > Yours, > Joel > > On 12/15/2019 8:07 PM, Qin Wu wrote: >> I believe this draft is under umbrella of >> draft-ietf-sfc-control-plane-08, suggest to add reference to it. >> In addition, It will be great to add usage example of new defined >> subscriber identifier and Performance Policy Identifier. >> Besides these, I think this draft is ready to go. >> >> -Qin >> -----邮件原件----- >> 发件人: sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Joel M. Halpern >> 发送时间: 2019年12月11日 21:52 >> 收件人: sfc@ietf.org >> 主题: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for >> draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header >> >> Starting WG Last call.  See comment below for description. >> Thank you, >> Joel >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header >> Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) >> Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org >> Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com, >> tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 >> From: IETF Secretariat >> To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org >> >> >> The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed >> to "In >> WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ >> >> Comment: >> This starts the working group last call for this document.  It has been >> discussed on the email list.  We need to see responses.  If you see >> issues >> with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up now.  And >> please be >> clear about what your concerns are.   At the same time, if you think that >> publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group, please >> speak >> up. >> >> As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to the >> TLV >> draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we have >> gotten >> that document unstuck. >> >> Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I am >> giving the document a 4 week last call. >> >> Thank you for your time and attention, >> Joel (& Jim) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sfc mailing list >> sfc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >> > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Fri Dec 20 09:15:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C23120856 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:15:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=joelhalpern.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7-ohiXSGRfyt for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from maila2.tigertech.net (maila2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C28DF12084D for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47fb3750q9z6GDCl; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:14:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=joelhalpern.com; s=2.tigertech; t=1576862099; bh=QEgAGldcF685E/7gFMeY+2PeywSx7tmd7DvRkne5v+w=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=UASPOXrP16x1ntY8kAktGlRNq64OXgdQEA9/ub74JL8iWod+3qupeJZKuIlgLUxTN WJvkGDAGn15N+BTXEtleyBonqYT4qnK85UiKa5DRufoKf1GXTmgGpNKEpDDbHQF6Bm yUWeqohhAK284VEtvRRvK/31z8mgXpxdpcbKwSVk= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at a2.tigertech.net Received: from [192.168.128.43] (209-255-163-147.ip.mcleodusa.net [209.255.163.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47fb371MjGz6GDCL; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:14:59 -0800 (PST) To: Loa Andersson Cc: "sfc@ietf.org" References: From: "Joel M. Halpern" Message-ID: <8955ed54-07d5-731e-3bcd-9fc8c0df5ea2@joelhalpern.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 12:14:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 17:15:02 -0000 I agree Loa, we do not seem to need an umbrella document. If the working group decides to engage in control plane work, then we might want to re-examine whether or not a framework document would be helpful. Yours, Joel On 12/20/2019 12:09 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Joel, > > A naive question inline. > > On 16/12/2019 09:26, Joel M. Halpern wrote: >> I am not confident that I follow your reasoning.   So let me restate >> slightly, and then add some observations and questions. >> >> You appear to be observing that the information as to what serviceID >> could come from the control plane framework.  Is that what you are >> getting at? >> >> That draft has not been updated in more than 3 years, expired for 2.5 > > Is what you say that draft-ietf-sfc-control-plane has not been changed > for 3 years and expired for 2.5? > > Sometimes umbrella documents is useful, in this case we seems to be > doing good without one. > > /Loa >> years.  It does not appear that the working group has any interest in >> the document.  When it was last considered, there was a lot of >> controversey about the draft, and if I recall correctly no agreement >> that it was structured the right way. >> >> Our approach to metadata, and for that matter to SPFID selection, and >> to the forwarding entries in SFF, has been that the information can >> come from a number of places and we do not tie the definitions to the >> mechanisms used to provide them. >> >> As such, I do not understand what form of reference would be >> appropriate, even if the cited document were an active WG document. >> >> Yours, >> Joel >> >> On 12/15/2019 8:07 PM, Qin Wu wrote: >>> I believe this draft is under umbrella of >>> draft-ietf-sfc-control-plane-08, suggest to add reference to it. >>> In addition, It will be great to add usage example of new defined >>> subscriber identifier and Performance Policy Identifier. >>> Besides these, I think this draft is ready to go. >>> >>> -Qin >>> -----邮件原件----- >>> 发件人: sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Joel M. Halpern >>> 发送时间: 2019年12月11日 21:52 >>> 收件人: sfc@ietf.org >>> 主题: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for >>> draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header >>> >>> Starting WG Last call.  See comment below for description. >>> Thank you, >>> Joel >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header >>> Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) >>> Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org >>> Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com, >>> tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com >>> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 >>> From: IETF Secretariat >>> To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org >>> >>> >>> The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed >>> to "In >>> WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ >>> >>> Comment: >>> This starts the working group last call for this document.  It has been >>> discussed on the email list.  We need to see responses.  If you see >>> issues >>> with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up now.  And >>> please be >>> clear about what your concerns are.   At the same time, if you think >>> that >>> publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group, please >>> speak >>> up. >>> >>> As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to >>> the TLV >>> draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we have >>> gotten >>> that document unstuck. >>> >>> Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I am >>> giving the document a 4 week last call. >>> >>> Thank you for your time and attention, >>> Joel (& Jim) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sfc mailing list >>> sfc@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sfc mailing list >> sfc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > From nobody Fri Dec 20 09:37:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D2F12084D; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:37:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.113.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <157686343126.4869.1673803527335323381@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:37:11 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] I-D Action: draft-mirsky-sfc-pmamm-09.txt X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 17:37:11 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the IETF. Title : Performance Measurement (PM) with Alternate Marking Method in Service Function Chaining (SFC) Domain Authors : Greg Mirsky Giuseppe Fioccola Tal Mizrahi Filename : draft-mirsky-sfc-pmamm-09.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2019-12-20 Abstract: This document describes how the alternate marking method can be used as the efficient performance measurement method taking advantage of the actual data flows in a Service Function Chaining (SFC) domain. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mirsky-sfc-pmamm/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-sfc-pmamm-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mirsky-sfc-pmamm-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-mirsky-sfc-pmamm-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Dec 22 15:13:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D18120052 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:13:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x8Gxrwyd162x for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaze.cs.jhu.edu (blaze.cs.jhu.edu [128.220.13.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 578A412000F for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ua1-f46.google.com (mail-ua1-f46.google.com [209.85.222.46]) (user=soudeh mech=PLAIN bits=0) by blaze.cs.jhu.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xBMNDPc3017473 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 18:13:31 -0500 Received: by mail-ua1-f46.google.com with SMTP id c14so3868949uaq.11 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:13:31 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVrKsStLJA77wCRxj3jSK5VLX5mGLU0WojxFPKNNOhRdOMUlA7j zVCPcIToYoBvgjTTFLn+gN9QTZmH9JKkRzM+xj4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy0xgoaXOX7oChMhtX1yRGu6bXAm9D1UI9e/1VJN5aMvKPdDXfpSyTGxUuunoarbssEVeWpff+5cFFMC4hkNN8= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:5bc6:: with SMTP id z6mr8513854uae.46.1577056405835; Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:13:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Soudeh Ghorbani Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 18:12:49 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: sfc@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dc5539059a530e08" Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] ACM SIGCOMM Symposium on SDN Research (SOSR) 2020 Call for Demos and Posters X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 23:13:35 -0000 --000000000000dc5539059a530e08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *Call for Demos and Posters - SOSR 2020* The ACM Symposium on SDN Research (SOSR) demos and posters session showcases research projects that are in an early stage and could benefit from community feedback. Topics of interest are the same as research topics in the SOSR call for papers. We particularly invite the submission of emerging results in SDN research that address timely problems, that can help evolve the landscape of SDN, that enhance our understanding of how SDN works in real-world deployments or realistic testbeds, or that could influence further applied research and experimentation in industry. The SOSR 2020 Demos and Posters committee will review all proposals. All demos will be provided with table space, an external display, a poster board and wireless Internet access by default. The demos should be configured to run in a cloud environment accessible via Internet and presented from the exhibition space floor on the demonstrator's laptop. Any additional needs (beyond the defaults: table, monitor, Internet) such as equipment for the demo, required setup time or additional facilities must be requested with submission. If you have interesting early-stage work, which has not yet evolved into a fully-fledged demo, please consider submitting a poster proposal. *What is a poster?* We expect both poster and demo presenters to prepare a poster. A poster is A0 paper size in portrait mode (841 =C3=97 1189mm), to which you can affix visually appealing material that describes your research. Alternatively, you can use the space as a continuum. You should prepare the best material (visually appealing and succinct) that effectively communicates your research problem, techniques, results, and what is novel/important about the work. You do not submit such a large-format image; only an abstract describing in text what the poster would present. *What to submit* Please submit your demo or poster proposal in the form of a two-page abstract in PDF. The abstract should clearly state: (a) the problem being addressed, (b) what makes this problem interesting, important, and challenging, (c) your approach to the problem, and (d) the key contributions. If you are submitting a demo, you should also include a video clip showcasing the work, in addition to the abstract. The video should be no more than 3 minutes and should give a good idea of what the demo is about and what it would look like. A link to the video should be included in the abstract PDF. Prepare your abstract using the 10=C2=AD point format following the *2017 A= CM SIG LaTeX style file = *. Use the sample latex file sample-sigconf.tex. Word documents will not be accepted. The abstracts of accepted posters and demos will be available to all attendees at the conference. Students who are submitting demos/posters are highly encouraged to examine if they are eligible for student travel grants. *Where to submit* Please submit your abstract to https://sosr20posters.hotcrp.com/ . Submissions are single blind, so please include authors' names and affiliation. *Important Dates* Submission Deadline: January 24, 2020 (23:59 PST) Acceptance Notification: February 3, 2020 Camera-ready Deadline: February 17, 2020 --000000000000dc5539059a530e08 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Call for Demos and Posters - SOSR 2= 020

The ACM Symposium on SDN Research (SOSR) demos and posters session=20 showcases research projects that are in an early stage and could benefit from community feedback. Topics of interest are the same as=20 research topics in the SOSR call for papers. We particularly invite the=20 submission of emerging results in SDN research that address timely=20 problems, that can help evolve the landscape of SDN, that enhance our=20 understanding of how SDN works in real-world deployments or realistic=20 testbeds, or that could influence further applied research and=20 experimentation in industry. The SOSR 2020 Demos and Posters committee=20 will review all proposals.

All demos will be provided with table space, an external display, a poster=20 board and wireless Internet access by default. The demos should be=20 configured to run in a cloud environment accessible via Internet and=20 presented from the exhibition space floor on the demonstrator's laptop.= =20 Any additional needs (beyond the defaults: table, monitor, Internet)=20 such as equipment for the demo, required setup time or additional=20 facilities must be requested with submission.

If you have interesting early-stage work, which has not yet evolved into a fully-fledged demo, please consider submitting a poster proposal.

What is a poster?

We expect both poster and demo presenters to prepare a poster. A poster is A0 paper size in portrait mode (841 =C3=97 1189mm), to which you can affix= =20 visually appealing material that describes your research. Alternatively, you can use the space as a continuum. You should prepare the best=20 material (visually appealing and succinct) that effectively communicates your research problem, techniques, results, and what is novel/important about the work. You do not submit such a large-format image; only an=20 abstract describing in text what the poster would present.

What to submit

Plea= se submit your demo or poster proposal in the form of a two-page abstract=20 in PDF. The abstract should clearly state: (a) the problem being=20 addressed, (b) what makes this problem interesting, important, and=20 challenging, (c) your approach to the problem, and (d) the key=20 contributions.

If you are submitting a demo, you should also include a video clip=20 showcasing the work, in addition to the abstract. The video should be no more than 3 minutes and should give a good idea of what the demo is=20 about and what it would look like. A link to the video should be=20 included in the abstract PDF.

Prepare your abstra= ct using the 10=C2=AD point format following the=C2=A02017 ACM SIG L= aTeX style file. Use the sample latex file sample-sigconf.tex. Word documents will not=20 be accepted. The abstracts of accepted posters and demos will be=20 available to all attendees at the conference.

Stu= dents who are submitting demos/posters are highly encouraged to examine if = they are eligible for student travel grants.

Where to submit

Please submit you= r abstract to=C2=A0https://sosr20posters.hotcrp.com/. Submissions are single b= lind, so please include authors' names and affiliation.

Important Dates

= Submission Deadline:
January 24, 2020 (2= 3:59 PST)
Acceptance Notification:February 3, 2020
Camera-ready Deadline:February 17, 202= 0
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Topics of interest are the same as research topics in the SOSR call for papers. We particularly invite the submission of emerging results in SDN research that address timely problems, that can help evolve the landscape of SDN, that enhance our understanding of how SDN works in real-world deployments or realistic testbeds, or that could influence further applied research and experimentation in industry. The SOSR 2020 Demos and Posters committee will review all proposals. All demos will be provided with table space, an external display, a poster board and wireless Internet access by default. The demos should be configured to run in a cloud environment accessible via Internet and presented from the exhibition space floor on the demonstrator's laptop. Any additional needs (beyond the defaults: table, monitor, Internet) such as equipment for the demo, required setup time or additional facilities must be requested with submission. If you have interesting early-stage work, which has not yet evolved into a fully-fledged demo, please consider submitting a poster proposal. *What is a poster?* We expect both poster and demo presenters to prepare a poster. A poster is A0 paper size in portrait mode (841 =C3=97 1189mm), to which you can affix visually appealing material that describes your research. Alternatively, you can use the space as a continuum. You should prepare the best material (visually appealing and succinct) that effectively communicates your research problem, techniques, results, and what is novel/important about the work. You do not submit such a large-format image; only an abstract describing in text what the poster would present. *What to submit* Please submit your demo or poster proposal in the form of a two-page abstract in PDF. The abstract should clearly state: (a) the problem being addressed, (b) what makes this problem interesting, important, and challenging, (c) your approach to the problem, and (d) the key contributions. If you are submitting a demo, you should also include a video clip showcasing the work, in addition to the abstract. The video should be no more than 3 minutes and should give a good idea of what the demo is about and what it would look like. A link to the video should be included in the abstract PDF. Prepare your abstract using the 10=C2=AD point format following the *2017 A= CM SIG LaTeX style file = *. Use the sample latex file sample-sigconf.tex. Word documents will not be accepted. The abstracts of accepted posters and demos will be available to all attendees at the conference. Students who are submitting demos/posters are highly encouraged to examine if they are eligible for student travel grants. *Where to submit* Please submit your abstract to https://sosr20posters.hotcrp.com/ . Submissions are single blind, so please include authors' names and affiliation. *Important Dates* Submission Deadline: January 24, 2020 (23:59 PST) Acceptance Notification: February 3, 2020 Camera-ready Deadline: February 17, 2020 --00000000000005f865059a5310fc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Call for Demos and Posters - SOSR 2= 020

The ACM Symposium on SDN Research (SOSR) demos and posters session=20 showcases research projects that are in an early stage and could benefit from community feedback. Topics of interest are the same as=20 research topics in the SOSR call for papers. We particularly invite the=20 submission of emerging results in SDN research that address timely=20 problems, that can help evolve the landscape of SDN, that enhance our=20 understanding of how SDN works in real-world deployments or realistic=20 testbeds, or that could influence further applied research and=20 experimentation in industry. The SOSR 2020 Demos and Posters committee=20 will review all proposals.

All demos will be provided with table space, an external display, a poster=20 board and wireless Internet access by default. The demos should be=20 configured to run in a cloud environment accessible via Internet and=20 presented from the exhibition space floor on the demonstrator's laptop.= =20 Any additional needs (beyond the defaults: table, monitor, Internet)=20 such as equipment for the demo, required setup time or additional=20 facilities must be requested with submission.

If you have interesting early-stage work, which has not yet evolved into a fully-fledged demo, please consider submitting a poster proposal.

What is a poster?

We expect both poster and demo presenters to prepare a poster. A poster is A0 paper size in portrait mode (841 =C3=97 1189mm), to which you can affix= =20 visually appealing material that describes your research. Alternatively, you can use the space as a continuum. You should prepare the best=20 material (visually appealing and succinct) that effectively communicates your research problem, techniques, results, and what is novel/important about the work. You do not submit such a large-format image; only an=20 abstract describing in text what the poster would present.

What to submit

Plea= se submit your demo or poster proposal in the form of a two-page abstract=20 in PDF. The abstract should clearly state: (a) the problem being=20 addressed, (b) what makes this problem interesting, important, and=20 challenging, (c) your approach to the problem, and (d) the key=20 contributions.

If you are submitting a demo, you should also include a video clip=20 showcasing the work, in addition to the abstract. The video should be no more than 3 minutes and should give a good idea of what the demo is=20 about and what it would look like. A link to the video should be=20 included in the abstract PDF.

Prepare your abstra= ct using the 10=C2=AD point format following the=C2=A02017 ACM SIG L= aTeX style file. Use the sample latex file sample-sigconf.tex. Word documents will not=20 be accepted. The abstracts of accepted posters and demos will be=20 available to all attendees at the conference.

Stu= dents who are submitting demos/posters are highly encouraged to examine if = they are eligible for student travel grants.

Where to submit

Please submit you= r abstract to=C2=A0https://sosr20posters.hotcrp.com/. Submissions are single b= lind, so please include authors' names and affiliation.

Important Dates

= Submission Deadline:
January 24, 2020 (2= 3:59 PST)
Acceptance Notification:February 3, 2020
Camera-ready Deadline:February 17, 202= 0
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