From nobody Thu Jan 2 14:14:50 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14754120024; Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:14:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.115.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <157800328903.6279.2256363047723486669@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:14:49 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support-02.txt X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 22:14:49 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the IETF. Title : Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) and Congestion Feedback Using the Network Service Header (NSH) Authors : Donald E. Eastlake Bob Briscoe Andrew G. Malis Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support-02.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2020-01-02 Abstract: Explicit congestion notification (ECN) allows a forwarding element to notify downstream devices of the onset of congestion without having to drop packets. Coupled with a means to feed back information about congestion to upstream nodes, this can improve network efficiency through better congestion control, frequently without packet drops. This document specifies ECN and congestion feedback support within a Service Function Chaining (SFC) domain through use of the Network Service Header (NSH, RFC 8300) and IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX, draft-ietf-tsvwg-tunnel-congestion-feedback). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 5:14 PM wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the IETF. > > Title : Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) and Congestion Feedback Using the Network Service Header (NSH) > Authors : Donald E. Eastlake > Bob Briscoe > Andrew G. Malis > Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support-02.txt > Pages : 21 > Date : 2020-01-02 > > Abstract: > Explicit congestion notification (ECN) allows a forwarding element to > notify downstream devices of the onset of congestion without having > to drop packets. Coupled with a means to feed back information about > congestion to upstream nodes, this can improve network efficiency > through better congestion control, frequently without packet drops. > This document specifies ECN and congestion feedback support within a > Service Function Chaining (SFC) domain through use of the Network > Service Header (NSH, RFC 8300) and IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX, > draft-ietf-tsvwg-tunnel-congestion-feedback). > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support-02 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support-02 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-ecn-support-02 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc From nobody Wed Jan 8 00:53:15 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FD2120876 for ; 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Wed, 08 Jan 2020 17:52:46 +0900 (JST) From: Shunsuke Homma References: <157599887144.9975.7887971558651782704.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <71423503-e1a3-31f1-43fc-527a0004ec2a@joelhalpern.com> <000301d5b3ca$59ae0480$0d0a0d80$@hco.ntt.co.jp_1> <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B9330313ED5F6@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 17:52:46 +0900 Message-id: <000001d5c600$ff7c3f10$fe74bd30$@hco.ntt.co.jp_1> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-index: AQHVYpH9R96HV3RunLwFWrsfMzwM0QIqZvm+AloP0zQCrY4opwFSb2j7AbL1sgGnj4FpYA== Content-language: ja X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 To: Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de, jmh@joelhalpern.com, sfc@ietf.org Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC/Mail Relayed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 08:53:13 -0000 Hi Dirk, Thank you very much for your kind reply, and I'm sorry for my too late response. I understood your thoughts on the two items. It is just my personal opinion, but it may be help for readers to understand the motivation on use of service performance identifier if you describe some sample scenario where the identifier is useful. Regarding e2e communication, I don't need detailed description about mechanisms to cooperate with underlay infrastructure. As you described, it should be out of scope in this document. While, I expect that the identifier can be used for not only loadbalancing of SFs but also optimization of whole of service path, and I personally wanted to add some light explanation about it. Thank you very much. Best regards, Shunsuke -----Original Message----- From: sfc On Behalf Of Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 1:23 AM To: shunsuke.homma.fp@hco.ntt.co.jp; jmh@joelhalpern.com; sfc@ietf.org Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header Hi Shunsuke, thanks for your comments. Fair points raised! We therefore addressed the ways to control SFC entities according to service specific policies/rules by saying in the draft: == Thus, the performance policy identifier allows for the distributed enforcement of a per-service policy such as a service function path to only include specific SFs instances. Details of this process are implementation-specific. For illustration purposes, an SFF may retrieve the details of usable SFs based upon the corresponding performance policy identifier. Typical criteria for instantiating specific SFs include location, performance, or proximity considerations. For the particular case of UHR services, the stand- by operation of back-up capacity or the deployment of multiple SF instances may be requested. == .... and think that - especially a dynamic SFP choice - cannot be achieved by CF alone. Regarding e2e communication we think that actually any SFC decision relies on underlying transport or user plane layers and routing decisions to be enforced there. So a description of interworking mechanisms seems to ber out of scope for our document. If you think it would help of course we could state this explicitly. We are fine to add references to 3GPP specs and extending to 5G NFs as UPF etc. where applicable! Thanks again! Best regards - on behalf of the co-authors Dirk > -----Original Message----- > From: sfc On Behalf Of Shunsuke Homma > Sent: Montag, 16. Dezember 2019 05:36 > To: 'Joel M. Halpern' ; sfc@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for > draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid- header > > Hi authors, > > I agree with that subscriber id will be useful, and simultaneously I > have some questions on Performance Policy Identifier as below: > - In my understanding, SFC path and SF instance selection will be done > at CF as starting point of SFC, and these information would be implied in SFP. > Why is the information needed to be represented as metadata in context > header? (I agree that information for policy selection at SFs would be > needed because, for example, customers use multiple applications and > they may have different requirements for processes at SFs.) > - ULL and UHR should be fulfilled as e2e communication, and some > interwork with underlay transport (and maybe user plane in 3GPP if it > is used in mobile network) would be needed. Don't you describe some > means how to interwork with other layers by using performance policy identifier? > > Also, I have some small comments: > - This document uses some 3GPP terms such as SGi and P/S-GW, and 3GPP > documents(e.g., TS23.401) should be referred. > - SGi and P/S-GW are terms of 4G, but 5G is coming soon, thus why > don't you add 5G terms (e.g., N6/DN, UPF) in addition to 4G terms? > > Regards, > > Shunsuke > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfc On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:52 PM > To: sfc@ietf.org > Subject: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for > draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid- header > > Starting WG Last call. See comment below for description. > Thank you, > Joel > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header > Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) > Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org > Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com, > tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 > From: IETF Secretariat > To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org > > > The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed > to "In WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ > > Comment: > This starts the working group last call for this document. It has > been discussed on the email list. We need to see responses. If you > see issues with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up > now. And please be > clear about what your concerns are. 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Awaiting your feedback then! Thanks! =20 Kind regards Dirk -----Original Message----- From: Shunsuke Homma =20 Sent: Mittwoch, 8. Januar 2020 09:53 To: von Hugo, Dirk ; jmh@joelhalpern.com; sfc@iet= f.org Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Subject: RE: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-= header Hi Dirk, Thank you very much for your kind reply, and I'm sorry for my too late resp= onse. I understood your thoughts on the two items. It is just my personal opinion= , but it may be help for readers to understand the motivation on use of ser= vice performance identifier if you describe some sample scenario where the = identifier is useful. Regarding e2e communication, I don't need detailed description about mechan= isms to cooperate with underlay infrastructure. As you described, it should= be out of scope in this document.=20 While, I expect that the identifier can be used for not only loadbalancing = of SFs but also optimization of whole of service path, and I personally wan= ted to add some light explanation about it. Thank you very much. Best regards, Shunsuke =20 -----Original Message----- From: sfc On Behalf Of Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 1:23 AM To: shunsuke.homma.fp@hco.ntt.co.jp; jmh@joelhalpern.com; sfc@ietf.org Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-= header Hi Shunsuke, thanks for your comments. Fair points raised!=20 We therefore addressed the ways to control SFC entities according to servic= e specific policies/rules by saying in the draft:=20 =3D=3D Thus, the performance policy identifier allows for the distributed enforcement of a per-service policy such as a service function path to only include specific SFs instances. Details of this process are implementation-specific. For illustration purposes, an SFF may retrieve the details of usable SFs based upon the corresponding performance policy identifier. Typical criteria for instantiating specific SFs include location, performance, or proximity considerations. For the particular case of UHR services, the stand- by operation of back-up capacity or the deployment of multiple SF instances may be requested. =3D=3D .... and think that - especially a dynamic SFP choice - cannot be achieved = by CF alone.=20 Regarding e2e communication we think that actually any SFC decision relies = on underlying transport or user plane layers and routing decisions to be en= forced there. So a description of interworking mechanisms seems to ber out = of scope for our document. If you think it would help of course we could st= ate this explicitly. =20 We are fine to add references to 3GPP specs and extending to 5G NFs as UPF = etc. where applicable! Thanks again! Best regards - on behalf of the co-authors Dirk =20 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: sfc On Behalf Of Shunsuke Homma > Sent: Montag, 16. Dezember 2019 05:36 > To: 'Joel M. Halpern' ; sfc@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for > draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid- header >=20 > Hi authors, >=20 > I agree with that subscriber id will be useful, and simultaneously I=20 > have some questions on Performance Policy Identifier as below: > - In my understanding, SFC path and SF instance selection will be done=20 > at CF as starting point of SFC, and these information would be implied in= SFP. > Why is the information needed to be represented as metadata in context=20 > header? (I agree that information for policy selection at SFs would be=20 > needed because, for example, customers use multiple applications and=20 > they may have different requirements for processes at SFs.) > - ULL and UHR should be fulfilled as e2e communication, and some=20 > interwork with underlay transport (and maybe user plane in 3GPP if it=20 > is used in mobile network) would be needed. Don't you describe some=20 > means how to interwork with other layers by using performance policy iden= tifier? >=20 > Also, I have some small comments: > - This document uses some 3GPP terms such as SGi and P/S-GW, and 3GPP=20 > documents(e.g., TS23.401) should be referred. > - SGi and P/S-GW are terms of 4G, but 5G is coming soon, thus why=20 > don't you add 5G terms (e.g., N6/DN, UPF) in addition to 4G terms? >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Shunsuke >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: sfc On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:52 PM > To: sfc@ietf.org > Subject: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for > draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid- header >=20 > Starting WG Last call. See comment below for description. > Thank you, > Joel >=20 >=20 > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header > Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) > Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org > Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com,=20 > tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 > From: IETF Secretariat > To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed=20 > to "In WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ >=20 > Comment: > This starts the working group last call for this document. It has=20 > been discussed on the email list. We need to see responses. If you=20 > see issues with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up=20 > now. And please be > clear about what your concerns are. At the same time, if you think that > publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group,=20 > please speak up. >=20 > As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to the=20 > TLV draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we=20 > have gotten that document unstuck. >=20 > Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I=20 > am giving the document a 4 week last call. >=20 > Thank you for your time and attention, Joel (& Jim) >=20 > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc From nobody Wed Jan 8 18:29:45 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721E2120077 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 18:29:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TE_P1tTI3LtF for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from dish-sg.nttdocomo.co.jp (dish-sg.nttdocomo.co.jp [202.19.227.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F4412004F for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 18:29:41 -0800 (PST) X-dD-Source: Outbound Received: from zssg-mailmd105.ddreams.local (zssg-mailmd900.ddreams.local [10.160.172.63]) by zssg-mailou104.ddreams.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8521201E7; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 11:29:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from zssg-mailcc301.ddreams.local (zssg-mailcc301.ddreams.local [10.160.162.152]) by zssg-mailmd105.ddreams.local (dDREAMS) with ESMTP id <0Q3T00BUBIXGS860@dDREAMS>; Thu, 09 Jan 2020 11:29:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from zssg-mailcc301 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zssg-mailcc301.ddreams.local (unknown) with SMTP id 0092Teom020398; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 11:29:40 +0900 Received: from zssg-mailmf103.ddreams.local (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by zssg-mailmf103.ddreams.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236207E6036; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 11:29:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from zssg-mailmf103.ddreams.local (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2194D8E6058; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 11:29:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with SMTP id 168778E6054; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 11:29:30 +0900 (JST) X-IMSS-HAND-OFF-DIRECTIVE: localhost:10026 Received: from zssg-mailmf103.ddreams.local (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E2A8E6054; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 11:29:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from zssg-mailua101.ddreams.local (unknown [10.160.172.62]) by zssg-mailmf103.ddreams.local (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 11:29:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from rcR9101318 (unknown [10.171.96.193]) by zssg-mailua101.ddreams.local (dDREAMS) with ESMTPA id <0Q3T00H5DIWX3VF0@dDREAMS>; Thu, 09 Jan 2020 11:29:22 +0900 (JST) From: Shunsuke Homma References: <157599887144.9975.7887971558651782704.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <71423503-e1a3-31f1-43fc-527a0004ec2a@joelhalpern.com> <000301d5b3ca$59ae0480$0d0a0d80$@hco.ntt.co.jp_1> <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B9330313ED5F6@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <000001d5c600$ff7c3f10$fe74bd30$@hco.ntt.co.jp_1> In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2020 11:29:21 +0900 Message-id: <000101d5c694$9a1f0000$ce5d0000$@hco.ntt.co.jp_1> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-index: AQHVYpH9R96HV3RunLwFWrsfMzwM0QIqZvm+AloP0zQCrY4opwFSb2j7AbL1sgEBvfQbXQGu/jMBp3VAvHA= Content-language: ja X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 To: Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de, jmh@joelhalpern.com, sfc@ietf.org Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC/Mail Relayed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2020 02:29:45 -0000 Hi Dirk, Thank you very much! I look forward to your next revision:-) Regards, Shunsuke -----Original Message----- From: sfc On Behalf Of Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 6:28 PM To: shunsuke.homma.fp@hco.ntt.co.jp; jmh@joelhalpern.com; sfc@ietf.org Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header Hi Shunsuke, obviously there is some kind of seasonal holiday break globally - so no problem at all and happy new year! ;-) We currently are in process of updating the draft and will publish soon where we hopefully will have considered your ideas properly. Awaiting your feedback then! Thanks! Kind regards Dirk -----Original Message----- From: Shunsuke Homma Sent: Mittwoch, 8. Januar 2020 09:53 To: von Hugo, Dirk ; jmh@joelhalpern.com; sfc@ietf.org Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Subject: RE: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header Hi Dirk, Thank you very much for your kind reply, and I'm sorry for my too late response. I understood your thoughts on the two items. It is just my personal opinion, but it may be help for readers to understand the motivation on use of service performance identifier if you describe some sample scenario where the identifier is useful. Regarding e2e communication, I don't need detailed description about mechanisms to cooperate with underlay infrastructure. As you described, it should be out of scope in this document. While, I expect that the identifier can be used for not only loadbalancing of SFs but also optimization of whole of service path, and I personally wanted to add some light explanation about it. Thank you very much. Best regards, Shunsuke -----Original Message----- From: sfc On Behalf Of Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 1:23 AM To: shunsuke.homma.fp@hco.ntt.co.jp; jmh@joelhalpern.com; sfc@ietf.org Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header Hi Shunsuke, thanks for your comments. Fair points raised! We therefore addressed the ways to control SFC entities according to service specific policies/rules by saying in the draft: == Thus, the performance policy identifier allows for the distributed enforcement of a per-service policy such as a service function path to only include specific SFs instances. Details of this process are implementation-specific. For illustration purposes, an SFF may retrieve the details of usable SFs based upon the corresponding performance policy identifier. Typical criteria for instantiating specific SFs include location, performance, or proximity considerations. For the particular case of UHR services, the stand- by operation of back-up capacity or the deployment of multiple SF instances may be requested. == ..... and think that - especially a dynamic SFP choice - cannot be achieved by CF alone. Regarding e2e communication we think that actually any SFC decision relies on underlying transport or user plane layers and routing decisions to be enforced there. So a description of interworking mechanisms seems to ber out of scope for our document. If you think it would help of course we could state this explicitly. We are fine to add references to 3GPP specs and extending to 5G NFs as UPF etc. where applicable! Thanks again! Best regards - on behalf of the co-authors Dirk > -----Original Message----- > From: sfc On Behalf Of Shunsuke Homma > Sent: Montag, 16. Dezember 2019 05:36 > To: 'Joel M. Halpern' ; sfc@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for > draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid- header > > Hi authors, > > I agree with that subscriber id will be useful, and simultaneously I > have some questions on Performance Policy Identifier as below: > - In my understanding, SFC path and SF instance selection will be done > at CF as starting point of SFC, and these information would be implied in SFP. > Why is the information needed to be represented as metadata in context > header? (I agree that information for policy selection at SFs would be > needed because, for example, customers use multiple applications and > they may have different requirements for processes at SFs.) > - ULL and UHR should be fulfilled as e2e communication, and some > interwork with underlay transport (and maybe user plane in 3GPP if it > is used in mobile network) would be needed. Don't you describe some > means how to interwork with other layers by using performance policy identifier? > > Also, I have some small comments: > - This document uses some 3GPP terms such as SGi and P/S-GW, and 3GPP > documents(e.g., TS23.401) should be referred. > - SGi and P/S-GW are terms of 4G, but 5G is coming soon, thus why > don't you add 5G terms (e.g., N6/DN, UPF) in addition to 4G terms? > > Regards, > > Shunsuke > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfc On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:52 PM > To: sfc@ietf.org > Subject: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for > draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid- header > > Starting WG Last call. See comment below for description. > Thank you, > Joel > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header > Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) > Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org > Resent-To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com, > tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 > From: IETF Secretariat > To: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org > > > The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed > to "In WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ > > Comment: > This starts the working group last call for this document. It has > been discussed on the email list. We need to see responses. If you > see issues with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up > now. And please be > clear about what your concerns are. At the same time, if you think that > publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group, > please speak up. > > As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to the > TLV draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we > have gotten that document unstuck. > > Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I > am giving the document a 4 week last call. > > Thank you for your time and attention, Joel (& Jim) > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc From nobody Mon Jan 13 22:19:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8BB120045; Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:19:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.116.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <157898278436.9154.17817938034282283441@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:19:44 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-05.txt X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:19:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the IETF. Title : Service Function Chaining: Subscriber and Performance Policy Identification Variable-Length Network Service Header (NSH) Context Headers Authors : Behcet Sarikaya Dirk von Hugo Mohamed Boucadair Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-05.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2020-01-13 Abstract: This document defines Subscriber and Performance Policy Identifiers Network Service Header Variable-Length Context Headers to inform Service Functions about subscriber- and service-related information for the sake of policy enforcement and appropriate service function chaining operations. The structure of each context header is defined, their use and processing instructions by SFC-aware nodes are explained. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jan 13 22:23:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD136120045; Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:23:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.116.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <157898301563.9001.6357010100137301987@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:23:35 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06.txt X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:23:36 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the IETF. Title : Service Function Chaining: Subscriber and Performance Policy Identification Variable-Length Network Service Header (NSH) Context Headers Authors : Behcet Sarikaya Dirk von Hugo Mohamed Boucadair Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2020-01-13 Abstract: This document defines Subscriber and Performance Policy Identifiers Network Service Header Variable-Length Context Headers to inform Service Functions about subscriber- and service-related information for the sake of policy enforcement and appropriate service function chaining operations. The structure of each context header is defined, their use and processing instructions by SFC-aware nodes are explained. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jan 13 22:29:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7089E12006E for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:29:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5rkqbovr8UY7 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.orange.com (relais-inet.orange.com [80.12.70.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40AC5120045 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from opfednr04.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.68]) by opfednr20.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 47xgXf4FCMz1yR1; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 07:29:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.54]) by opfednr04.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 47xgXf3FRPz1xnr; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 07:29:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::e878:bd0:c89e:5b42]) by OPEXCAUBM7D.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0468.000; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 07:29:22 +0100 From: To: "sfc@ietf.org" , "Shunsuke Homma (shunsuke.homma.fp@hco.ntt.co.jp)" , Qin Wu , Donald Eastlake Thread-Topic: I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06.txt Thread-Index: AQHVyqMuQ43i5+YSaU+v/ReguA+bN6fpsVFA Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:29:21 +0000 Message-ID: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031408801@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <157898301563.9001.6357010100137301987@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <157898301563.9001.6357010100137301987@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.13.245] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06.txt X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:29:27 -0000 Hi all,=20 The new version addresses the WGLC comments, particularly those from Donald= , Qin, and Shunsuke. A diff is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-sfc-= serviceid-header-04&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06=20 Cheers, Behcet/Dirk/Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de > internet-drafts@ietf.org > Envoy=E9=A0: mardi 14 janvier 2020 07:24 > =C0=A0: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc=A0: sfc@ietf.org > Objet=A0: I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06.txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the > IETF. >=20 > Title : Service Function Chaining: Subscriber and > Performance Policy Identification Variable-Length Network Service Header > (NSH) Context Headers > Authors : Behcet Sarikaya > Dirk von Hugo > Mohamed Boucadair > Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06.txt > Pages : 10 > Date : 2020-01-13 >=20 > Abstract: > This document defines Subscriber and Performance Policy Identifiers > Network Service Header Variable-Length Context Headers to inform > Service Functions about subscriber- and service-related information > for the sake of policy enforcement and appropriate service function > chaining operations. The structure of each context header is > defined, their use and processing instructions by SFC-aware nodes are > explained. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From nobody Thu Jan 16 19:54:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9744A120044 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:54:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p819TU4JsWyU for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dish-sg.nttdocomo.co.jp (dish-sg.nttdocomo.co.jp [202.19.227.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A80120099 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:54:52 -0800 (PST) X-dD-Source: Outbound Received: from zssg-mailmd104.ddreams.local (zssg-mailmd900.ddreams.local [10.160.172.63]) by zssg-mailou102.ddreams.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415481200F4; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from zssg-mailcc302.ddreams.local (zssg-mailcc302.ddreams.local [10.160.162.153]) by zssg-mailmd104.ddreams.local (dDREAMS) with ESMTP id <0Q4801CTXG7FNYB0@dDREAMS>; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from zssg-mailcc301 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zssg-mailcc302.ddreams.local (unknown) with SMTP id 00H3spQS058417; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:51 +0900 Received: from zssg-mailmf106.ddreams.local (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by zssg-mailmf106.ddreams.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4D57E6032; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:39 +0900 (JST) Received: from zssg-mailmf106.ddreams.local (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3A28E605F; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:39 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with SMTP id CBFC58E6057; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:39 +0900 (JST) X-IMSS-HAND-OFF-DIRECTIVE: localhost:10026 Received: from zssg-mailmf106.ddreams.local (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48D48E605A; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from zssg-mailua104.ddreams.local (unknown [10.160.172.62]) by zssg-mailmf106.ddreams.local (Postfix) with ESMTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from rcR9101318 (unknown [10.171.96.193]) by zssg-mailua104.ddreams.local (dDREAMS) with ESMTPA id <0Q48017IHG72PSZ0@dDREAMS>; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:38 +0900 (JST) From: Shunsuke Homma References: <157898301563.9001.6357010100137301987@ietfa.amsl.com> <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031408801@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-reply-to: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031408801@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:38 +0900 Message-id: <012201d5cce9$d72eea40$858cbec0$@hco.ntt.co.jp_1> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-index: AQHfSMaK9dtzZxQuHAl32n0ZfmTmswEz0AHHp9GjZNA= Content-language: ja X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com, sfc@ietf.org, 'Qin Wu' , 'Donald Eastlake' X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC/Mail Relayed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06.txt X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 03:54:55 -0000 Hi authors, Thank you for your great work! It looks good to me, and I support the = adoption. Regards, Shunsuke -----Original Message----- From: sfc On Behalf Of = mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:29 PM To: sfc@ietf.org; Shunsuke Homma (shunsuke.homma.fp@hco.ntt.co.jp) = ; Qin Wu ; Donald Eastlake Subject: Re: [sfc] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06.txt Hi all,=20 The new version addresses the WGLC comments, particularly those from = Donald, Qin, and Shunsuke. A diff is available at: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-04&ur= l2=3Ddraft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06 Cheers, Behcet/Dirk/Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part = de=20 > internet-drafts@ietf.org Envoy=E9=A0: mardi 14 janvier 2020 07:24 = =C0=A0:=20 > i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc=A0: sfc@ietf.org Objet=A0: I-D Action:=20 > draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06.txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20 > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the=20 > IETF. >=20 > Title : Service Function Chaining: Subscriber and > Performance Policy Identification Variable-Length Network Service=20 > Header > (NSH) Context Headers > Authors : Behcet Sarikaya > Dirk von Hugo > Mohamed Boucadair > Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06.txt > Pages : 10 > Date : 2020-01-13 >=20 > Abstract: > This document defines Subscriber and Performance Policy Identifiers > Network Service Header Variable-Length Context Headers to inform > Service Functions about subscriber- and service-related information > for the sake of policy enforcement and appropriate service function > chaining operations. The structure of each context header is > defined, their use and processing instructions by SFC-aware nodes = are > explained. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header- > 06 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-06 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at=20 > tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > 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59ce2897-6755-485c-060a-08d7a0dd63f6 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 24 Jan 2020 14:55:01.9699 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 0fee8ff2-a3b2-4018-9c75-3a1d5591fedc X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: gWcAclUbU+K/qliI7Lyu2XSxPlfYkX22zImVC1ERIgx2oIbmfpG4nJCl/bxsnl2G3mZ2uchiF0i23UVAsyoyeA== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6PR13MB3529 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 14:55:08 -0000 --_000_DM6PR13MB306660A01C059AC52193EEBCD20E0DM6PR13MB3066namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear WG: The 4 week WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-servic= eid-header/ has ended and although several comments were received, and a ne= w version of the draft was published based upon those comments, the chairs = do not feel that sufficient support has been expressed by the WG to move th= is document forward to publication. We recognize that the WG LC happened du= ring the holidays and end of year madness, so are extending the WG LC for a= further 2 weeks. Please indicate your support (or lack thereof with reason= ing) on the mailing list during this WG LC extension so that we can move th= is document forward. Thanks! Jim & Joel --_000_DM6PR13MB306660A01C059AC52193EEBCD20E0DM6PR13MB3066namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear WG:

 

The 4 week WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ has e= nded and although several comments were received, and a new version of the = draft was published based upon those comments, the chairs do not feel that = sufficient support has been expressed by the WG to move this document forward to publication. We recognize that = the WG LC happened during the holidays and end of year madness, so are exte= nding the WG LC for a further 2 weeks. Please indicate your support (or lac= k thereof with reasoning) on the mailing list during this WG LC extension so that we can move this document= forward.

 

Thanks!

 

Jim & Joel

 

 

 

--_000_DM6PR13MB306660A01C059AC52193EEBCD20E0DM6PR13MB3066namp_-- From nobody Fri Jan 24 11:24:15 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE9A120954 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 11:24:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.632 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.632 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, INVALID_MSGID=0.568, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id terwOeNdNebM for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 11:24:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D46D1208FA for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 11:24:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 559EFFA8C4396FA56B7F; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:24:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML501-MBS.china.huawei.com ([10.201.109.50]) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com ([10.201.108.45]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:24:07 +0000 From: Dirk Trossen To: James Guichard , sfc Thread-Topic: [sfc] WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ Thread-Index: AdXSxgGAMTKRDZ1jQGWhsv5XnJAtcwAJdaYQ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:24:06 +0000 Message-ID: 833EC024-A422-49C6-954A-7AC093EE0003 References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_833EC024A42249C6954A7AC093EE0003_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:24:14 -0000 --_000_833EC024A42249C6954A7AC093EE0003_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, I do support the publication of this document as an important extension. Ap= ologies for not replying earlier to the LC due to several issues on my end. Best -------------------------------------------------- Dirk Trossen Mobile: +49-15904451196(Preferred) Email: dirk.trossen@huawei.com From:James Guichard To:sfc Date:2020-01-24 15:55:59 Subject:[sfc] WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-ser= viceid-header/ Dear WG: The 4 week WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-servic= eid-header/ has ended and although several comments were received, and a ne= w version of the draft was published based upon those comments, the chairs = do not feel that sufficient support has been expressed by the WG to move th= is document forward to publication. We recognize that the WG LC happened du= ring the holidays and end of year madness, so are extending the WG LC for a= further 2 weeks. Please indicate your support (or lack thereof with reason= ing) on the mailing list during this WG LC extension so that we can move th= is document forward. Thanks! Jim & Joel --_000_833EC024A42249C6954A7AC093EE0003_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

I do support the publication of this document as an important extension.= Apologies for not replying earlier to the LC due to several issues on my e= nd.

Best

--------------------------------------------------
Dirk Trossen
Mobile: +49-15904451196(Preferred)
Email: dirk.trossen@huawei.com

From:James Guichard <james.n.= guichard@futurewei.com>
To:sfc <sfc@ietf.org>
Date:2020-01-24 15:55:59
Subject:[sfc] WG LC for https://= datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/

Dear WG:

 

The 4 week WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ has e= nded and although several comments were received, and a new version of the = draft was published based upon those comments, the chairs do not feel that = sufficient support has been expressed by the WG to move this document forward to publication. We recognize that = the WG LC happened during the holidays and end of year madness, so are exte= nding the WG LC for a further 2 weeks. Please indicate your support (or lac= k thereof with reasoning) on the mailing list during this WG LC extension so that we can move this document= forward.

 

Thanks!

 

Jim & Joel

 

 

 

--_000_833EC024A42249C6954A7AC093EE0003_-- From nobody Sun Jan 26 05:46:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B3D120043; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 05:46:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com, sfc-chairs@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.116.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <158004637060.30525.6825713909651729955.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 05:46:10 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] sfc - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 107 X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 13:46:10 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Tal Mizrahi, a Secretary of the sfc working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Service Function Chaining Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Tal Mizrahi Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 100 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: lisp Technology Overlap: spring Key Participant Conflict: bess idr i2nsf ippm mpls rtgwg ntp teas People who must be present: Joel M. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I also support progression of this draft especially as a useful feature for= 3GPP cellular networks. One small editorial suggestion would be to directly reference 4G and 5G cel= lular network applicability in the Abstract to highlight this important use= for this feature. Best Regards, Akbar From: sfc On Behalf Of Dirk Trossen Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:24 PM To: James Guichard ; sfc Subject: Re: [sfc] WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sf= c-serviceid-header/ All, I do support the publication of this document as an important extension. Ap= ologies for not replying earlier to the LC due to several issues on my end. Best -------------------------------------------------- Dirk Trossen Mobile: +49-15904451196(Preferred) Email: dirk.trossen@huawei.com From:James Guichard > To:sfc > Date:2020-01-24 15:55:59 Subject:[sfc] WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-ser= viceid-header/ Dear WG: The 4 week WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-servic= eid-header/ has ended and although several comments were received, and a ne= w version of the draft was published based upon those comments, the chairs = do not feel that sufficient support has been expressed by the WG to move th= is document forward to publication. We recognize that the WG LC happened du= ring the holidays and end of year madness, so are extending the WG LC for a= further 2 weeks. Please indicate your support (or lack thereof with reason= ing) on the mailing list during this WG LC extension so that we can move th= is document forward. Thanks! Jim & Joel --_000_CH2PR10MB384851814E63EB4F58809873E7040CH2PR10MB3848namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

 

 

I also support progression of this draft especially = as a useful feature for 3GPP cellular networks.

 

One small editorial suggestion would be to directly = reference 4G and 5G cellular network applicability in the Abstract to highl= ight this important use for this feature.

 

Best Regards,

 

Akbar

 

From: sfc <sfc-bounces@ietf.org> On = Behalf Of Dirk Trossen
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:24 PM
To: James Guichard <james.n.guichard@futurewei.com>; sfc <s= fc@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [sfc] WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/

 

All,

I do support the publication of this document as an important extension.= Apologies for not replying earlier to the LC due to several issues on my e= nd.

Best

--------------------------------------------------
Dirk Trossen
Mobile: +49-15904451196(Preferred)
Email: dirk.trossen@huawei.com

Dear WG:

 

The 4 week WG LC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/ has e= nded and although several comments were received, and a new version of the = draft was published based upon those comments, the chairs do not feel that = sufficient support has been expressed by the WG to move this document forward to publication. We recognize that = the WG LC happened during the holidays and end of year madness, so are exte= nding the WG LC for a further 2 weeks. Please indicate your support (or lac= k thereof with reasoning) on the mailing list during this WG LC extension so that we can move this document= forward.

 

Thanks!

 

Jim & Joel

 

 

 

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