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------=_NextPart_000_38473D_01C81F5C.228198B0-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Sun Nov 04 23:36:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IothW-00064e-Rq; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:36:38 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IothU-0005zd-Pj for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:36:36 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IothU-0005z2-G2 for simple@ietf.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:36:36 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InxOK-0006JA-Ld for simple@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:20:56 -0400 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.232]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InxOF-0007bd-ER for simple@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:20:56 -0400 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so468701wra for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:20:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=0jCwASVK/w8Coc4GJxafj05fU7st9CP7yodNgEf1JBs=; b=YaP4Fq21KbqPAPvYJqJtjFDPNVLuVEXBQ94xuDtn+U3ofFxoUzBHt5oXqX62RYvAMAM5wYHRl9buJc/M9/wrq6ak7EnMKlobA5w3BsQtTgBB4s3alOjd+oUWhJ2ecNm7DUJN1O6rE9t/OI7Fe/wo8iEUKTG89xMwBop+lb1tBh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=sWsi8HBTBm2EWddXmGGrBby2zzZFCy60j5KaZQToa/s8S1KDRxRyOC9o5uyarVcxwxLfK50J9TSev1iR4N25BroC7/L4aFijucsXzXz0LIQ1cIeTmJvmlDHAFaVRE/Cp9qN3WecpiyQ/2AHs6owI2dgdM3ldkdCp4B++o36n+EA= Received: by 10.90.70.10 with SMTP id s10mr1301184aga.1194013231968; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.65.1 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 07:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:50:31 +0530 From: "Noble Antony T" To: simple@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0a7aa2e6e558383d84476dc338324fab X-TMDA-Confirmed: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:36:36 -0500 Subject: [Simple] IM URI to SIP URI X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1668804369==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org --===============1668804369== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17052_8440487.1194013231956" ------=_Part_17052_8440487.1194013231956 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I need some clarifications about the conversion of IM URI to SIP URI. According to RCF3861 3. Address Resolution The symbolic name used in the Service field of the SRV record is "_im" for instant messaging... However, the advertisement of these services in the DNS is incomplete if it does not include the protocol that will be used to instantiate the instant messaging or presence operations... ... the Protocol field of the SRV record contains an IANA-registered label corresponding to the underlying instant messaging or presence protocol being advertised. I need to send a MESSAGE with a request URI im:fred@example.com and it is to be resolved into corresponding SIP URI. what should I query to get the corresponding SIP URI..? example is given... _im._bip.example.com Thanks.. -- Noble Antony Thattil, Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. (Albert Einstein) ------=_Part_17052_8440487.1194013231956 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,

   I need some clarifications about the conversion of IM URI to SIP URI.

According to RCF3861

3. Address Resolution

   The symbolic name used in the Service field of the SRV record is
   "_im" for instant messaging... However, the advertisement of these
   services in the DNS is incomplete if it does not include the protocol
   that will be used to instantiate the instant messaging or presence
   operations...

... the Protocol field of the SRV record contains an
   IANA-registered label corresponding to the underlying instant
   messaging or presence protocol being advertised.


I need to send a MESSAGE with a request URI
        im:fred@example.com
and it is to be resolved into corresponding SIP URI.

what should I query to get the corresponding SIP URI..?

example is given...
        _im._bip.example.com


Thanks..
--
Noble Antony Thattil,

        Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. (Albert Einstein) ------=_Part_17052_8440487.1194013231956-- --===============1668804369== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============1668804369==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 05 00:22:43 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IouQ3-0003h9-4Q; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:22:39 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IouQ2-0003fO-5s for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:22:38 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IouQ1-0003ex-Qv for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:22:37 -0500 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.231]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IouQ1-0003bw-Dk for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:22:37 -0500 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s8so1520423wxc for ; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:22:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=vXzwHYQGP38t0zpWRjep/V8QSBYDoquPFMf8bkt5/Ew=; b=D7vOx5SQQlAjJ6+OVttO4Rgt6cIiRYugiITx8zDQzphcLMVdHfrqkstfzflPqEg6pnn446ho9e4+eURIRk5IUjBnTRLqcRYa6bOpKpLabwImHjjuuaSGgpky3mzZSPXTq/dxtEvqTiqIqc6wNtUP12zN1NqWr4hQnU6+5bPce1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=sckqrBxC4RcgnjqSMouCcAlE12fiwDY94mU3Pn2pZ8xHCHg9iePilglLCdv3CMnEEq8M30/AeBr+3FkPit9ompWnL5Dk+hZcP0SxkMoHK8NDY9MsV5dPrPrYYQ7VwcpwCid8vRs9sYYN3ewzqztDIDr72kkTQdLTHgeQbam6VF8= Received: by 10.90.81.8 with SMTP id e8mr2649023agb.1194239754659; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:15:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.65.1 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:15:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:45:54 +0530 From: "Noble Antony T" To: simple@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 50a516d93fd399dc60588708fd9a3002 Subject: [Simple] IM URI to SIP URI X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1418903456==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org --===============1418903456== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_23588_10713112.1194239754647" ------=_Part_23588_10713112.1194239754647 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I need some clarifications about the conversion of IM URI to SIP URI. Thanks in advance... According to RCF3861 3. Address Resolution *The symbolic name used in the Service field of the SRV record is "_im" for instant messaging... However, the advertisement of these services in the DNS is incomplete if it does not include the protocol that will be used to instantiate the instant messaging or presence operations... ... the Protocol field of the SRV record contains an IANA-registered label corresponding to the underlying instant messaging or presence protocol being advertised. * I need to send a MESSAGE with a request URI im:fred@example.com and it is to be resolved into corresponding SIP URI. what should I query to get the corresponding SIP URI..? waiting for your valuable reply... Thanks.. -- Noble Antony Thattil, ------=_Part_23588_10713112.1194239754647 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hi,

  I need some clarifications about the conversion of IM URI to SIP URI.  Thanks in advance...

According to RCF3861

3. Address Resolution

  The symbolic name used in the Service field of the SRV record is
  "_im" for instant messaging... However, the advertisement of these
  services in the DNS is incomplete if it does not include the protocol
  that will be used to instantiate the instant messaging or presence
  operations...

... the Protocol field of the SRV record contains an
  IANA-registered label corresponding to the underlying instant
  messaging or presence protocol being advertised.


I need to send a MESSAGE with a request URI
       im:fred@example.com
and it is to be resolved into corresponding SIP URI.

what should I query to get the corresponding SIP URI..?

waiting for your valuable reply...

Thanks..
--
Noble Antony Thattil,
------=_Part_23588_10713112.1194239754647-- --===============1418903456== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============1418903456==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 05 00:31:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IouYM-000619-18; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:31:14 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IouYL-0005zj-7q for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:31:13 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IouYK-0005yv-Q5 for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:31:12 -0500 Received: from spam.telcoware.com ([222.106.248.202]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IouYJ-0003oE-4d for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:31:12 -0500 Received: from ([10.10.2.243]) (envelope sender: ) by spam.telcoware.com with SpamBlocker esmtp server; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:07:10 +0900 From: "neo" To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:31:05 +0900 Message-ID: <001901c81f6d$10244d50$f3020a0a@LocalHost> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f4370ee33809f5069baf7bed2e235b84 Subject: [Simple] MSRP tcp port binding question X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0008604615==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0008604615== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C81FB8.800BF550" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C81FB8.800BF550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, everyone. I have a question for MSRP port binding. "Must MSRP client bind its MSRP URI port?" If then, it seems to be a problem in MSRP relay. MSRP relay must act as both server and client. In section [RFC 4976. 3. Protocol overview], MSRP relay server 'a.example.org' uses MSRP URI 'msrps://a.example.org:9000/kjfjan;tcp' When MSRP relay server 'a.example.org' trys do make a slow link after receiving a SEND request from Alice. But the 'a.example.org' relay server already uses a port 9000 as server port for Alice. How it can use the port 9000 as client port for MSRP relay server 'b.example.net' if client must bind its client port? Thanks. Please refer below flow and message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ Alice a.example.org b.example.net Bob | | | | |::::::::::::::::::::>| connection opened |<::::::::::::::::::::| |--- AUTH ----------->| |<-- AUTH ------------| |<-- 200 OK-----------| |--- 200 OK---------->| | | | | .... time passes .... | | | | |--- SEND ----------->| | | |<-- 200 OK ----------|:::::::::::::::::::>| (slow link) | | |--- SEND ---------->| | | |<-- 200 OK ---------|--- SEND ----------->| | | | ....>| | | | ..>| | | |<-- 200 OK ----------| | | |<-- REPORT ----------| | |<-- REPORT ---------| | |<-- REPORT ----------| | | | | | | MSRP 6aef SEND To-Path: msrps://a.example.org:9000/kjfjan;tcp \ msrps://b.example.net:9000/aeiug;tcp \ msrps://bob.example.net:8145/foo;tcp From-Path: msrps://alice.example.org:7965/bar;tcp Success-Report: yes Byte-Range: 1-*/* Message-ID: 87652 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Bob, I'm about to send you file.mpeg -------6aef$ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C81FB8.800BF550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hi, everyone.

 

I have a question for MSRP port = binding.

 

“Must MSRP client bind its MSRP URI = port?”

 

If then, it seems to be a problem in MSRP = relay.

MSRP relay must act as both server and = client.

In section [RFC 4976. 3. Protocol = overview],

MSRP relay server ‘a.example.org’ uses MSRP URI = ‘msrps://a.example.org:9000/kjfjan;tcp’

When MSRP relay server ‘a.example.org’ trys do make a slow link after receiving a SEND request from = Alice.

But the ‘a.example.org’ relay server already uses a = port 9000 as server port for Alice.

How it can use the port 9000 as client port for MSRP relay server = ‘b.example.net’ if client must bind

its client port?

 

Thanks…

 

Please refer = below flow and message.

----------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------

Alice       &nbs=
p;      a.example.org       =
b.example.net       &nbs=
p;     =
Bob
     |       &nbs=
p;            =
; |       &nbs=
p;            =
|       &nbs=
p;            =
; |
     |::::::::::::::::::::>| connection opened  =
|<::::::::::::::::::::|
     |--- AUTH =
----------->|       &nbs=
p;            =
|<-- AUTH =
------------|
     |<-- 200 =
OK-----------|       &nbs=
p;            =
|--- 200 =
OK---------->|
     |       &nbs=
p;            =
; |       &nbs=
p;            =
|       &nbs=
p;            =
; |
       &nbs=
p;   ....       &nbs=
p;        time passes       &nbs=
p;   ....
     |           &nbs=
p;         |       &nbs=
p;            =
|       &nbs=
p;            =
; |
     |--- SEND =
----------->|       &nbs=
p;            =
|       &nbs=
p;            =
; |
     |<-- 200 =
OK ----------|:::::::::::::::::::=
>|  (slow =
link)        =
|
     |       &nbs=
p;            =
; |--- SEND ---------->|        &nbs=
p;            =
;|
     |       &nbs=
p;            =
; |<-- 200 OK ---------|--- SEND =
----------->|
     |       &nbs=
p;            =
; |       &nbs=
p;            =
|       &nbs=
p;        =
....>|
     |       &nbs=
p;            =
; |       &nbs=
p;            =
|       &nbs=
p;          =
..>|
     |       &nbs=
p;           &nbs=
p; |       &nbs=
p;            =
|<-- 200 OK =
----------|
     |       &nbs=
p;            =
; |       &nbs=
p;            =
|<-- REPORT =
----------|
     |       &nbs=
p;            =
; |<-- REPORT ---------|       &nbs=
p;            =
; |
     |<-- =
REPORT ----------|       &nbs=
p;            =
|       &nbs=
p;        &nbs=
p;    |
     |       &nbs=
p;            =
; |       &nbs=
p;            =
|       &nbs=
p;            =
; |

 

MSRP =
6aef SEND
    To-Path: =
msrps://a.example.org:9000/kjfjan;tcp =
\
       &nbs=
p;     msrps://b.example.net:9000/aeiug;tcp =
\
       &nbs=
p;     =
msrps://bob.example.net:8145/foo;tcp
    From-Path: =
msrps://alice.example.org:7965/bar;tcp
    Success-Report: =
yes
    Byte-Range: =
1-*/*
    Message-ID: =
87652
    Content-Type: =
text/plain
 
    Hi Bob, I'm about =
to send you file.mpeg
    =
-------6aef$

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------=_NextPart_000_4CC3_01C81FB9.57CAF9F0-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 05 11:57:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ip5GL-0000t2-Eu; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:57:21 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ip5GK-0000rr-5a for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:57:20 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ip5GJ-0000rN-Pb for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:57:19 -0500 Received: from dizzyd.com ([207.210.219.225]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ip5GJ-0003bn-9F for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:57:19 -0500 Received: from roundabout.local (dencfw1.jabber.com [207.182.164.5]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by dizzyd.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE7140081; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:57:17 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <472F4BC3.7060307@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:58:43 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070728 Thunderbird/2.0.0.6 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noble Antony T Subject: Re: [Simple] IM URI to SIP URI References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=7BBD0573; url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Jabber-ID: stpeter@jabber.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a492040269d440726bfd84680622cee7 Cc: simple@ietf.org X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0291602020==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============0291602020== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010203030001010105000208" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010203030001010105000208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Noble Antony T wrote: > > Hi, > > I need some clarifications about the conversion of IM URI to SIP URI. > Thanks in advance... > > According to RCF3861 > > 3. Address Resolution > > /The symbolic name used in the Service field of the SRV record is > "_im" for instant messaging... However, the advertisement of these > services in the DNS is incomplete if it does not include the protocol > that will be used to instantiate the instant messaging or presence > operations... > > ... the Protocol field of the SRV record contains an > IANA-registered label corresponding to the underlying instant > messaging or presence protocol being advertised. > / > > I need to send a MESSAGE with a request URI > im:fred@example.com > and it is to be resolved into corresponding SIP URI. > > what should I query to get the corresponding SIP URI..? I agree that this is a bit confusing. Unlike resolution of (say) an http: or mailto: URI, there are several steps involved in resolution of an im: URI. If you have im:fred@example.com then you need to resolve that to an address for a registered IM protocol: http://www.iana.org/assignments/im-srv-labels Surprisingly, there is only one registered IM protocol: XMPP. Did someone forget to register SIP/SIMPLE? Assuming that SIP/SIMPLE will be registered (and assuming that the registered label will be "_sip") then you would attempt to resolve the target domain per Section 3 of RFC 3861. So you would attempt to resolve the following: _im._sip.example.com. That would result in a resolution to a domain that handles SIMPLE IM traffic for example.com, such as perhaps simple.example.com. Thus im:fred@example.com would resolve to sip:fred@simple.example.com. Or at least that is my understanding. Perhaps Jon Peterson is a better person to ask, since he authored RFCs 3859, 3860, and 3861. 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On Nov 5, 2007 10:28 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Noble Antony T wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I need some clarifications about the conversion of IM URI to SIP URI. > > Thanks in advance... > > > > According to RCF3861 > > > > 3. Address Resolution > > > > /The symbolic name used in the Service field of the SRV record is > > "_im" for instant messaging... However, the advertisement of these > > services in the DNS is incomplete if it does not include the protocol > > that will be used to instantiate the instant messaging or presence > > operations... > > > > ... the Protocol field of the SRV record contains an > > IANA-registered label corresponding to the underlying instant > > messaging or presence protocol being advertised. > > / > > > > I need to send a MESSAGE with a request URI > > im:fred@example.com > > and it is to be resolved into corresponding SIP URI. > > > > what should I query to get the corresponding SIP URI..? > > I agree that this is a bit confusing. Unlike resolution of (say) an > http: or mailto: URI, there are several steps involved in resolution of > an im: URI. > > If you have im:fred@example.com then you need to resolve that to an > address for a registered IM protocol: > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/im-srv-labels > > Surprisingly, there is only one registered IM protocol: XMPP. Did > someone forget to register SIP/SIMPLE? > > Assuming that SIP/SIMPLE will be registered (and assuming that the > registered label will be "_sip") then you would attempt to > resolve the target domain per Section 3 of RFC 3861. So you would > attempt to resolve the following: > > _im._sip.example.com. > > That would result in a resolution to a domain that handles SIMPLE IM > traffic for example.com, such as perhaps simple.example.com. > > Thus im:fred@example.com would resolve to sip:fred@simple.example.com. > > Or at least that is my understanding. Perhaps Jon Peterson is a better > person to ask, since he authored RFCs 3859, 3860, and 3861. > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > -- Noble Antony T, Starent Networks, Bangalore. Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. (Albert Einstein) ------=_Part_30946_19302763.1194423674974 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Peter,

  Thanks for your reply, waiting for Mr. Jon Peterson's response,

Noble  Antony T.


On Nov 5, 2007 10:28 PM, Peter Saint-Andre < stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote:
Noble Antony T wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>   I need some clarifications about the conversion of IM URI to SIP URI.
> Thanks in advance...
>
> According to RCF3861
>
> 3. Address Resolution < http://rfc.net/rfc3861.html#s3.>
>
>   /The symbolic name used in the Service field of the SRV record is
>   "_im" for instant messaging... However, the advertisement of these
>   services in the DNS is incomplete if it does not include the protocol
>   that will be used to instantiate the instant messaging or presence
>   operations...
>
> ... the Protocol field of the SRV record contains an
>   IANA-registered label corresponding to the underlying instant
>   messaging or presence protocol being advertised.
> /
>
> I need to send a MESSAGE with a request URI
>         im:fred@example.com <mailto:im:fred@example.com>
> and it is to be resolved into corresponding SIP URI.
>
> what should I query to get the corresponding SIP URI..?

I agree that this is a bit confusing. Unlike resolution of (say) an
http: or mailto: URI, there are several steps involved in resolution of
an im: URI.

If you have im:fred@example.com then you need to resolve that to an
address for a registered IM protocol:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/im-srv-labels

Surprisingly, there is only one registered IM protocol: XMPP. Did
someone forget to register SIP/SIMPLE?

Assuming that SIP/SIMPLE will be registered (and assuming that the
registered <Proto> label will be "_sip") then you would attempt to
resolve the target domain per Section 3 of RFC 3861. So you would
attempt to resolve the following:

_im._sip.example.com.

That would result in a resolution to a domain that handles SIMPLE IM
traffic for example.com, such as perhaps simple.example.com.

Thus im:fred@example.com would resolve to sip:fred@simple.example.com.

Or at least that is my understanding. Perhaps Jon Peterson is a better
person to ask, since he authored RFCs 3859, 3860, and 3861.

Peter

--
Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/




--
Noble Antony T,
Starent Networks, Bangalore.

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Feedback is welcome on list or privately to the authors. Expect an updated version soon with more details... Peter -------- Original Message -------- To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:50:02 -0500 Subject: I-D Action:draft-saintandre-xmpp-msrp-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Interworking between the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) and the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) Author(s) : P. Saint-Andre, et al. Filename : draft-saintandre-xmpp-msrp-00.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2007-11-11 This document defines a bidirectional protocol mapping for use by gateways that enable the exchange of messages in the context of a chat session between a system that implements the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) and a system that implements the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP), specifically for the latter session-mode messages that use the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP). 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mtagate6.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lACApeuB341672 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:51:40 GMT Received: from d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.228]) by d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v8.6) with ESMTP id lACApd5Z2109602 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:51:40 +0100 Received: from d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lACApdSk026267 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:51:39 +0100 Received: from d12mc102.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12mc102.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.114]) by d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lACApd3U026257 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:51:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <47379AE2.2090403@cisco.com> References: <47379AE2.2090403@cisco.com> To: Jonathan Rosenberg Subject: Re: [Simple] Internet Draft on intra-domain presence federation MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0NP August 02, 2007 From: Avshalom Houri Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:51:37 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D12MC102/12/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2HF71 | November 3, 2006) at 12/11/2007 12:51:38, Serialize complete at 12/11/2007 12:51:38 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: 827a2a57ca7ab0837847220f447e8d56 Cc: Simple WG X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1527058891==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1527058891== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 003BA967C2257391_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 003BA967C2257391_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I think that the draft addresses a very important topic that is being seen in presence deployments today since in reality an enterprise or a service provider will use presence servers from multiple vendors. Another not less important aspect is that scaling presence to very large scale will need some kind of peering between presence servers since a single server or a cluster to that affect is inherently limited in the number of users that it can support. Hope that we will find time to discuss this in Vancouver. Thanks --Avshalom Jonathan Rosenberg 12/11/2007 02:14 To Simple WG cc Subject [Simple] Internet Draft on intra-domain presence federation I wanted to call attention to the following draft that I recently submitted: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-simple-intradomain-federation-00.txt This draft talks about the various models for federating presence within a domain, how routing, policy, identity, and presence composition work for each, and what the various pros and cons of the different models are. Comments welcome. Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Cisco Fellow Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 Cisco Systems jdrosen@cisco.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.cisco.com _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --=_alternative 003BA967C2257391_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I think that the draft addresses a very important topic that is being
seen in presence deployments today since in reality an enterprise or
a service provider will use presence servers from multiple vendors.

Another not less important aspect is that scaling presence to very large
scale will need some kind of peering between presence servers since a single
server or a cluster to that affect is inherently limited in the number of
users that it can support.

Hope that we will find time to discuss this in Vancouver.

Thanks
--Avshalom


Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@cisco.com>

12/11/2007 02:14

To
Simple WG <simple@ietf.org>
cc
Subject
[Simple] Internet Draft on intra-domain presence federation





I wanted to call attention to the following draft that I recently submitted:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-simple-intradomain-federation-00.txt

This draft talks about the various models for federating presence within
a domain, how routing, policy, identity, and presence composition work
for each, and what the various pros and cons of the different models are.

Comments welcome.

Thanks,
Jonathan R.
--
Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D.                   600 Lanidex Plaza
Cisco Fellow                                   Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711
Cisco Systems
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--=_alternative 003BA967C2257391_=-- --===============1527058891== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============1527058891==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 12 09:15:31 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ira4V-0001cv-OZ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:15:27 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ira4U-0001cZ-ND for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:15:26 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ira4U-0001ac-C0 for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:15:26 -0500 Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu ([128.59.29.5]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ira4U-0001H5-2U for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:15:26 -0500 Received: from Henning-Schulzrinnes-Computer (pool-70-21-184-101.nwrk.east.verizon.net [70.21.184.101]) (user=hgs10 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lACEFOcE016115 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:15:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Henning Schulzrinne To: simple@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v912) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:15:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.912) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 Subject: [Simple] New draft on music, video, game, web status X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org I just submitted http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schulzrinne-simple-ami-00.txt It's a blatant rip-off of the functionality found in XMPP, for indicating the music, video and games that the presentity is enjoying (one hopes) and the web pages he or she is browsing, with a few minor extensions. Given Twitter and Facebook, there's clearly a demonstrated need for this type of functionality. Almost all modern IM clients, such as AIM and iChat, support at least the what-am-I-listening-to functionality. The draft was motivated by earlier work, draft-zhao-simple-aipid-00, and replaces it. Before I fill in items such as the schema and examples, I'd appreciate comments on whether this is perceived to be on the right track. Henning _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 12 10:10:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IravR-0005Kz-HR; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:10:09 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IravQ-0005Jr-2J for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:10:08 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IravP-0005IQ-Mc for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:10:07 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IravP-00039j-BN for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:10:07 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,405,1188802800"; d="scan'208";a="186223582" Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2007 07:10:06 -0800 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lACFA6PR010141 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:10:06 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lACF9wff016505 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:10:06 GMT Received: from xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.174]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:09:57 -0800 Received: from [10.32.241.148] ([10.32.241.148]) by xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:09:57 -0800 Message-ID: <47386CE4.2070604@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:10:28 -0500 From: Jonathan Rosenberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simple WG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2007 15:09:57.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[167474B0:01C8253E] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=900; t=1194880206; x=1195744206; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim2002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=jdrosen@cisco.com; z=From:=20Jonathan=20Rosenberg=20 |Subject:=20Draft=20on=20optimized=20presence=20federation |Sender:=20; bh=4dZlFjfjg3sWWD3Hojiid9Q3a1M4lhuQLboQerrxONc=; b=WQgj0YLB9X5chsHr5z89Os9PvQeFtiZNef0+JDTfUe6fOdVkNJKG16S4akw3BJxmnI1eXKhi RrMYcoCwlm2uPO1CnDogCZDlKum4g9/VIpfvvO81LTwJNa9OKDA/nx1N; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=jdrosen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 Subject: [Simple] Draft on optimized presence federation X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org I've just submitted an I-D that defines a SIP event framework extension called "view sharing". 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I think it is also important to address the problem with minimum affect to the UAs, as this draft does. The key question seems to be whether we want to allow a domain to decide how much it wants to reveal on the policies of its users' policies to a particular other domain. If we set that as a requirement, I think building upon the ideas proposed in this draft is the way to go. =20 I have one specific question: Have you considered whether the ACL format can effectively cope with "domain" and "exception" logic in common policy? For instance the common policy RFC has a following example rule: In this kind of case (assuming no other rules) the presence server would know that everyone else from example.com would get a certain view, while alice and bob would be blocked. Is this readily supported in ACL doc by listing two rules there? (BTW, instead of calling the ACL elements rules, how about calling them e.g. views to avoid confusion with common policy terminology?)=20 Markus >-----Original Message----- >From: ext Jonathan Rosenberg [mailto:jdrosen@cisco.com]=20 >Sent: 12 November, 2007 17:10 >To: Simple WG >Subject: [Simple] Draft on optimized presence federation > >I've just submitted an I-D that defines a SIP event framework=20 >extension called "view sharing". View sharing optimizes the=20 >performance of subscriptions inter-domain and is meant as an=20 >answer to the scaling analysis and requirements drafts we've=20 >been working on. The basic idea is, if there are ten watchers=20 >that are interested in the same presentity and will get the=20 >same presence document, have just one subscription rather than ten. > >Here is a pointer to the draft: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-simple-view >-sharing-00.txt > >-Jonathan R. >--=20 >Jonathan D. 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Responses below: Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com wrote: > Hi, > > This draft addresses an important problem, assuming we want to support > SIMPLE based presence between large domains. I think it is also > important to address the problem with minimum affect to the UAs, as this > draft does. The key question seems to be whether we want to allow a > domain to decide how much it wants to reveal on the policies of its > users' policies to a particular other domain. If we set that as a > requirement, I think building upon the ideas proposed in this draft is > the way to go. If you buy into the idea of some kind of optimization like this, I think you absolutely need to build in controls that allow a domain to decide on the performance/privacy tradeoff. > > I have one specific question: > > Have you considered whether the ACL format can effectively cope with > "domain" and "exception" logic in common policy? For instance the common > policy RFC has a following example rule: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this kind of case (assuming no other rules) the presence server would > know that everyone else from example.com would get a certain view, while > alice and bob would be blocked. Is this readily supported in ACL doc by > listing two rules there? (BTW, instead of calling the ACL elements > rules, how about calling them e.g. views to avoid confusion with common > policy terminology?) I believe so. The ACL document would look like: sip:alice@example.com sip:bob@example.com this would tell the originating domain to do a subscribe for alice and bob individually (since there are no rules defined for their presence, so each needs to have a subscription extended), and then a rule for everyone else. -Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. 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Filename: draft-ietf-simple-xml-patch-ops Revision: 04 Title: An Extensible Markup Language (XML) Patch Operations Framework Utilizing XML Path Language (XPath) Selectors Creation_date: 2007-11-16 WG ID: simple Number_of_pages: 42 Abstract: Extensible Markup Language (XML) documents are widely used as containers for the exchange and storage of arbitrary data in today's systems. In order to send changes to an XML document, an entire copy of the new version must be sent, unless there is a means of indicating only the portions that have changed. This document describes an XML patch framework utilizing XML Path language (XPath) selectors. These selector values and updated new data content constitute the basis of patch operations described in this document. In addition to them, with basic , and directives a set of patches can then be applied to update an existing XML document. The IETF Secretariat. _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 16 05:53:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Isyp3-0005CA-CG; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:53:17 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Isyp2-0005AH-Ct for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:53:16 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Isyp2-0005A0-30 for simple@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:53:16 -0500 Received: from ns1.neustar.com ([2001:503:c779:1a::9c9a:108a]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Isyp0-00024C-Tm for simple@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:53:16 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (stiedprweb1.va.neustar.com [10.91.34.42]) by ns1.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8AE26E7E; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:53:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mirror by ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Isyp0-0000AI-Jz; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:53:14 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: jari.urpalainen@nokia.com From: IETF I-D Submission Tool Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:53:14 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Cc: hisham.khartabil@telio.no, mikko.lonnfors@nokia.com, simple@ietf.org, eva-maria.leppanen@nokia.com Subject: [Simple] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-simple-partial-pidf-format-09 X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-simple-partial-pidf-format-09.txt has been successfuly submitted by Jari Urpalainen and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-simple-partial-pidf-format Revision: 09 Title: Presence Information Data format (PIDF) Extension for Partial Presence Creation_date: 2007-11-16 WG ID: simple Number_of_pages: 17 Abstract: The Presence Information Document Format (PIDF) specifies the baseline XML based format for describing presence information. One of the characteristic of the PIDF is that the document always needs to carry all presence information available for the presentity. In some environments where low bandwidth and high latency links can exist it is often beneficial to limit the amount of transported information over the network. This document introduces a new MIME type which enables transporting of either only the changed parts or the full PIDF based presence information. The IETF Secretariat. _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 16 05:55:42 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IsyrM-0008S3-1O; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:55:40 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IsyrK-0008Q8-NA for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:55:38 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IsyrK-0008Q0-D3 for simple@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:55:38 -0500 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IsyrK-0006yC-52 for simple@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:55:38 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (stiedprweb1.va.neustar.com [10.91.34.42]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19AA2AC81; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:55:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mirror by ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IsyrJ-0000CY-NR; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:55:37 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: jari.urpalainen@nokia.com From: IETF I-D Submission Tool Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:55:37 -0500 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2409bba43e9c8d580670fda8b695204a Cc: simple@ietf.org Subject: [Simple] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-simple-xcap-diff-07 X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-simple-xcap-diff-07.txt has been successfuly submitted by Jari Urpalainen and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-simple-xcap-diff Revision: 07 Title: An Extensible Markup Language (XML) Document Format for Indicating A Change in XML Configuration Access Protocol (XCAP) Resources Creation_date: 2007-11-16 WG ID: simple Number_of_pages: 16 Abstract: This specification defines a document format that can be used to indicate that a change has occurred in a document managed by the Extensible Markup Language (XML) Configuration Access Protocol (XCAP). This format indicates the document that has changed and its former and new entity tags. It also can indicate the specific change that was made in the document, using an XML patch format. This format allows also indications of element and attribute content of an XML document. XCAP diff documents can be delivered to clients using a number of means, including a Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) event package. The IETF Secretariat. _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 16 06:00:06 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Isyvc-0005up-G5; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:00:04 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Isyvb-0005tm-2x for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:00:03 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Isyva-0005tc-PO; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:00:02 -0500 Received: from ns1.neustar.com ([2001:503:c779:1a::9c9a:108a]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Isyva-0002Qd-Ca; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:00:02 -0500 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns1.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA5026E92; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:00:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Isyva-00030H-4V; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:00:02 -0500 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:00:02 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 10d3e4e3c32e363f129e380e644649be Cc: simple@ietf.org Subject: [Simple] I-D Action:draft-ietf-simple-partial-pidf-format-09.txt X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : Presence Information Data format (PIDF) Extension for Partial Presence Author(s) : M. Lonnfors, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-simple-partial-pidf-format-09.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2007-11-16 The Presence Information Document Format (PIDF) specifies the baseline XML based format for describing presence information. One of the characteristic of the PIDF is that the document always needs to carry all presence information available for the presentity. In some environments where low bandwidth and high latency links can exist it is often beneficial to limit the amount of transported information over the network. This document introduces a new MIME type which enables transporting of either only the changed parts or the full PIDF based presence information. 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This draft is a work item of the SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : An Extensible Markup Language (XML) Patch Operations Framework Utilizing XML Path Language (XPath) Selectors Author(s) : J. Urpalainen Filename : draft-ietf-simple-xml-patch-ops-04.txt Pages : 42 Date : 2007-11-16 Extensible Markup Language (XML) documents are widely used as containers for the exchange and storage of arbitrary data in today's systems. In order to send changes to an XML document, an entire copy of the new version must be sent, unless there is a means of indicating only the portions that have changed. This document describes an XML patch framework utilizing XML Path language (XPath) selectors. These selector values and updated new data content constitute the basis of patch operations described in this document. In addition to them, with basic , and directives a set of patches can then be applied to update an existing XML document. 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This draft is a work item of the SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : An Extensible Markup Language (XML) Document Format for Indicating A Change in XML Configuration Access Protocol (XCAP) Resources Author(s) : J. Rosenberg, J. Urpalainen Filename : draft-ietf-simple-xcap-diff-07.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2007-11-16 This specification defines a document format that can be used to indicate that a change has occurred in a document managed by the Extensible Markup Language (XML) Configuration Access Protocol (XCAP). This format indicates the document that has changed and its former and new entity tags. It also can indicate the specific change that was made in the document, using an XML patch format. This format allows also indications of element and attribute content of an XML document. XCAP diff documents can be delivered to clients using a number of means, including a Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) event package. 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This calculation fix actually shows that dialog optimization is not a real optimization from the point of view of bytes and number of messages. * When NOTIFY optimizations are applied no need for final NOTIFY * The usage of RLS between domains was clarified. o Significantly enhanced the conclusions section o Several typo fixes Thanks --Avshalom ----- Forwarded by Avshalom Houri/Haifa/IBM on 18/11/2007 12:22 ----- Internet-Drafts@ietf.org 18/11/2007 11:40 To i-d-announce@ietf.org cc simple@ietf.org Subject [Simple] I-D Action:draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : Presence Interdomain Scaling Analysis for SIP/SIMPLE Author(s) : A. Houri, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt Pages : 59 Date : 2007-11-18 The document analyzes the traffic that is generated due to presence subscriptions between domains. It is shown that the amount of traffic can be extremely big. In addition to the very large traffic the document also analyzes the affects of a large presence system on the memory footprint and the CPU load. Current approved and in work optimizations to the SIMPLE protocol are analyzed with the possible impact on the load. Separate documents contain the requirements for optimizations and suggestions for new optimizations. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. ftp://anonymous@ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --=_alternative 003906DCC2257397_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Changes in version 03

  o  Added some input from real life deployments and input on a test
     with batched notifies.
  o  Added Calculations of messages and bytes per user.
  o  Calculations are now done both for minimal size of presence
     document and for an average size of rich presence document.
  o  Comparison with other protocol is now done using small, tiny and
     rich presence document sizes.
  o  Removed dialog optimization with partial notification since it is
     not relevant
  o  Fixed a few issues in calculations that were found by Victoria
     Beltran-Martinez.
     *  Added overhead for RLMI for dialog optimizations (list
        subscription).  This calculation fix actually shows that dialog
        optimization is not a real optimization from the point of view
        of bytes and number of messages.
     *  When NOTIFY optimizations are applied no need for final NOTIFY
     *  The usage of RLS between domains was clarified.
  o  Significantly enhanced the conclusions section
  o  Several typo fixes
Thanks
--Avshalom
----- Forwarded by Avshalom Houri/Haifa/IBM on 18/11/2007 12:22 -----
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This draft is a work item of the SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions Working Group of the IETF.


                Title           : Presence Interdomain Scaling Analysis for SIP/SIMPLE
                Author(s)       : A. Houri, et al.
                Filename        : draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt
                Pages           : 59
                Date            : 2007-11-18

The document analyzes the traffic that is generated due to presence
subscriptions between domains.  It is shown that the amount of
traffic can be extremely big.  In addition to the very large traffic
the document also analyzes the affects of a large presence system on
the memory footprint and the CPU load.  Current approved and in work
optimizations to the SIMPLE protocol are analyzed with the possible
impact on the load.  Separate documents contain the requirements for
optimizations and suggestions for new optimizations.

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http://prereeraplay.net/ ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C82960.073DAB6D-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 03:52:31 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu2ML-00053P-Od; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:52:02 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu2MC-0004gj-Qo for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:51:53 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu2M6-0004bm-45 for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:51:46 -0500 Received: from wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com ([203.91.201.26]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu2Lu-0000f0-2F for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:51:46 -0500 Received: from wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822A8180BE for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:31 +0530 (IST) Received: from blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com (blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com [10.201.50.91]) by wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFE4180B6 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:31 +0530 (IST) Received: from BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com ([10.201.51.211]) by blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:20:52 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:19:36 +0530 Message-ID: <8E5C3E5BA0F2BB42B968827E1246EFC2719AC5@BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 Thread-Index: AcgqiRzjlbD34TVMQOuFDORnW+tcnQ== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2007 08:50:52.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A63F4D0:01C82A89] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cd26b070c2577ac175cd3a6d878c6248 Subject: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2040688339==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2040688339== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.479CAF64" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.479CAF64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 This is regarding the Subscription state machine described in Section 4.7.1 of RFC 3857. This diagram show events like "approved, giveup, rejected, noresource" change subscription state from "waiting" to "terminated". =20 How can event "approved" make the subscription state change from "waiting" to "terminated"?? =20 Another thing missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is no event mentioned for subscription state changing from=20 "waiting" to "active". =20 Regards Ajay Kasam =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.479CAF64 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
  = This is=20 regarding the Subscription state machine described in Section 4.7.1 of = RFC=20 3857.
This = diagram show=20 events like "approved, giveup, rejected, noresource" change = subscription=20 state from "waiting" to "terminated".
 
How = can event=20 "approved" make the subscription state change from "waiting" to=20 "terminated"??
 
Another thing=20 missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is no event=20 mentioned for subscription state changing from =
"waiting" to=20 "active".
 
Regards
Ajay=20 Kasam
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.479CAF64-- --===============2040688339== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============2040688339==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 04:12:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu2fp-0000wm-Ic; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:12:09 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu2fn-0000tV-7Z for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:12:07 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu2fm-0000sS-Eq for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:12:06 -0500 Received: from wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com ([203.91.201.26]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu2fl-0000bK-2o for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:12:06 -0500 Received: from wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3685B180C2 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:33 +0530 (IST) Received: from blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com (blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com [10.201.50.91]) by wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BDF18060 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:32 +0530 (IST) Received: from BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com ([10.201.51.211]) by blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:00 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:20:48 +0530 Message-ID: <8E5C3E5BA0F2BB42B968827E1246EFC2719AC6@BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Regarding identity condition of Common Policy (RFC 4745) Thread-Index: AcgqhhO1kzILXDoQRsexlHEK6C9leA== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2007 08:51:00.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F1CC1F0:01C82A89] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c83ccb5cc10e751496398f1233ca9c3a Subject: [Simple] Regarding identity condition of Common Policy (RFC 4745) X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1116790746==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1116790746== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.47A638B4" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.47A638B4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 This is regarding Identity Condition of Common Policy defined in RFC 4745. As per RFC the schema for Identity Condition of Common Policy =20 As per schema, its not allowed to have both and elements under .=20 Can we have and elements under ??=20 =20 But how can a single rule be defined which accepts multiple domains and multiple individual sip uris?? Can you someone give a example. =20 Regards Ajay Kasam ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.47A638B4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
   This is=20 regarding Identity Condition of Common Policy defined in RFC 4745. As = per RFC=20 the schema for Identity Condition of Common Policy
 <!--=20 //conditions/identity -->
    <xs:complexType=20 name=3D"identityType">
       =20 <xs:complexContent>
       &n= bsp;   =20 <xs:restriction=20 base=3D"xs:anyType">
       &nbs= p;       =20 <xs:choice  minOccurs=3D"1"=20 maxOccurs=3D"unbounded">
    &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;  =20 <xs:element name=3D"one"=20 type=3D"cp:oneType"/>
    &nbs= p;            = ;  =20 <xs:element name=3D"many"=20 type=3D"cp:manyType"/>
    &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;  =20 <xs:any namespace=3D"##other"=20 processContents=3D"lax"/>
       = ;        =20 </xs:choice>
        &nb= sp;  =20 </xs:restriction>
       =20 </xs:complexContent>
 
 As per schema, its not allowed to have both <one> and = <many>=20 elements under <identity>.
Can we = have=20 <one> and <many> elements under <identity>??=20
 
But = how can a=20 single rule be defined which accepts multiple domains = and multiple=20 individual sip uris?? Can you someone give a = example.
 
Regards
Ajay=20 Kasam
------_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.47A638B4-- --===============1116790746== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============1116790746==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 04:45:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu3C2-0003P2-F3; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:45:26 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu3C0-0003Kv-NC for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:45:24 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu3C0-0003Kf-BL for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:45:24 -0500 Received: from wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com ([203.91.201.26]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iu3Bz-0003ba-1N for simple@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:45:24 -0500 Received: from wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41915180CA for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:35 +0530 (IST) Received: from blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com (blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com [10.201.50.91]) by wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0397918060 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:34 +0530 (IST) Received: from BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com ([10.201.51.211]) by blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:08 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:20:48 +0530 Message-ID: <8E5C3E5BA0F2BB42B968827E1246EFC2719AC7@BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: regarding multiple conditions for a rule, rfc 4745 (common policy) Thread-Index: AcgqhPSXY+Ha2NwlSBKM8hHq/KCtIw== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2007 08:51:08.0451 (UTC) FILETIME=[53C73730:01C82A89] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 963faf56c3a5b6715f0b71b66181e01a Subject: [Simple] regarding multiple conditions for a rule, rfc 4745 (common policy) X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1552058188==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1552058188== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.47AFC204" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.47AFC204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 This is regarding the possiblity of having multiple conditions for rule. As per the schema in RFC 4745 (Common Policy) there can be only one of the conditions (like identity, sphere, validity) =20 =20 But the same RFC 4745 (Common Policy) quotes below given example(in section 12 of the RFC), in which a rule has multiple conditions 2003-12-24T17:00:00+01:00 2003-12-24T19:00:00+01:00 =20 =20 is this example right?? can we have multiple conditions for a rule. =20 Regards Ajay Kasam ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82A89.47AFC204 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
   This is=20 regarding the possiblity of having multiple conditions for rule. As per = the=20 schema in RFC 4745 (Common Policy)
there = can be only=20 one of the conditions (like identity, sphere, = validity)
 
 <xs:complexType=20 name=3D"conditionsType">
       = =20 <xs:complexContent>
       &n= bsp;   =20 <xs:restriction=20 base=3D"xs:anyType">
       &nbs= p;       =20 <xs:choice=20 maxOccurs=3D"unbounded">
       =              = <xs:element=20 name=3D"identity"
        &nbs= p;          =20 type=3D"cp:identityType"=20 minOccurs=3D"0"/>
        &= nbsp;          =20 <xs:element=20 name=3D"sphere"
         =           =20 type=3D"cp:sphereType" = minOccurs=3D"0"/>
          &nbs= p;        =20 <xs:element=20 name=3D"validity"
        &nbs= p;          =20 type=3D"cp:validityType"=20 minOccurs=3D"0"/>
        &= nbsp;          =20 <xs:any namespace=3D"##other"=20 processContents=3D"lax"
       &nbs= p;           =20 minOccurs=3D"0"=20 maxOccurs=3D"unbounded"/>
       = ;        =20 </xs:choice>
        &nb= sp;  =20 </xs:restriction>
       =20 </xs:complexContent>
   =20 </xs:complexType>
 
But = the same RFC=20 4745 (Common Policy) quotes below given example(in section 12 of the = RFC), in=20 which a rule has multiple conditions
<?xml=20 version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"UTF-8"?>
   <ruleset=20 xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:common-policy">
       <rule=20 id=3D"f3g44r1">
        &nb= sp; =20 <conditions>
     &nbs= p;        =20 <identity>
      =              = <one=20 id=3D"sip:bob@example.com"/>
      &n= bsp;       =20 </identity>
        &nbs= p;     =20 <sphere=20 value=3D"work"/>
        &n= bsp;     =20 <validity>
      =              = <from>2003-12-24T17:00:00+01:00</from>
   &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;  =20 <until>2003-12-24T19:00:00+01:00</until>
   = ;           =20 </validity>
        &nbs= p; =20 </conditions>
        &n= bsp; =20 <actions/>
         = ; =20 <transformations/>
      =20 </rule>
   </ruleset>
 
 
is = this example=20 right?? can we have multiple conditions for a rule.
 
Regards
Ajay=20 Kasam
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This diagram show events like "approved, giveup, rejected, noresource" change subscription state from "waiting" to "terminated". =20 How can event "approved" make the subscription state change from "waiting" to "terminated"?? [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Waiting state is when an unauthorized subscription expires waiting for authorization. When the server grants authorization for a subscription and if the subscription has expired, then it has to move to terminated state. =20 =09 =20 Another thing missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is no event mentioned for subscription state changing from=20 "waiting" to "active". [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Subscription state can not move from waiting to active since it has already expired and hence was in waiting state to begin with. If server has authorized the subscription and so it moved from waiting to terminated state, then next time when the watcher sends another subscription for that user, it will remember the previous authorization and will transition from pending to active state. =20 Sanjay =20 Regards Ajay Kasam =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82AEB.099B29A5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pl. see inline ..

From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com=20 [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, = 2007 3:50=20 AM
To: simple@ietf.org
Subject: [Simple] = Subscription=20 state machine in RFC 3857

Hi,
 
  This is=20 regarding the Subscription state machine described in Section 4.7.1 of = RFC=20 3857.
This = diagram show=20 events like "approved, giveup, rejected, noresource" change = subscription=20 state from "waiting" to "terminated".
 
How = can event=20 "approved" make the subscription state change from "waiting" to=20 "terminated"??
[Sanjay=20 Sinha (sanjsinh)] Waiting state = is when an=20 unauthorized subscription expires waiting for authorization. When the = server=20 grants authorization for a subscription and if the subscription has = expired,=20 then it has to move to terminated=20 state.  
 
Another thing=20 missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is no event=20 mentioned for subscription state changing from =
"waiting" to=20 "active".
[Sanjay Sinha=20 (sanjsinh)] Subscription state can not move from waiting to = active since=20 it has already expired and hence was in waiting state to begin = with. If=20 server has authorized the subscription and so it moved from waiting=20 to terminated state, then next time when the watcher = sends=20 another subscription for that user, it will remember the previous = authorization and will transition from pending to=20 active state.
 
Sanjay
 
Regards
Ajay = Kasam
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C82AEB.099B29A5-- --===============0390539558== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============0390539558==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 04:08:40 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuP5c-00041x-Ew; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:08:16 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuP5a-00041b-Rk for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:08:14 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuP5a-00041S-Hi for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:08:14 -0500 Received: from wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com ([203.91.201.26]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuP5W-0003iB-1Q for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:08:14 -0500 Received: from wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5253F18059 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:38:05 +0530 (IST) Received: from blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com (blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com [10.201.50.91]) by wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBB118053 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:38:05 +0530 (IST) Received: from BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com ([10.201.51.211]) by blr-ec-bh01.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:38:05 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:37:33 +0530 Message-ID: <8E5C3E5BA0F2BB42B968827E1246EFC2013B96F6@BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com> In-Reply-To: <8983EC086A9D954BA74D9763E853CF3E0437ECCE@xmb-rtp-215.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 Thread-Index: AcgqiRzjlbD34TVMQOuFDORnW+tcnQAYQt7AABpggwA= From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2007 09:08:05.0882 (UTC) FILETIME=[DCA09DA0:01C82B54] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 48472a944c87678fcfe8db15ffecdfff X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1035182553==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1035182553== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82B54.DC93F053" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82B54.DC93F053 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, you are right, thanks for response. In pending state (i.e after receiving 202 accepted response for the SUBSCRIBE), does the client need to refresh the subscription??=20 ________________________________ From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) [mailto:sanjsinh@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:01 AM To: Ajay Kumar kasam (WT01 - MCE-Mobile Devices); simple@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 Pl. see inline .. ________________________________ From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com]=20 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:50 AM To: simple@ietf.org Subject: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 =09 =09 Hi, =20 This is regarding the Subscription state machine described in Section 4.7.1 of RFC 3857. This diagram show events like "approved, giveup, rejected, noresource" change subscription state from "waiting" to "terminated". =20 How can event "approved" make the subscription state change from "waiting" to "terminated"?? [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Waiting state is when an unauthorized subscription expires waiting for authorization. When the server grants authorization for a subscription and if the subscription has expired, then it has to move to terminated state. =20 =09 =20 Another thing missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is no event mentioned for subscription state changing from=20 "waiting" to "active". [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Subscription state can not move from waiting to active since it has already expired and hence was in waiting state to begin with. If server has authorized the subscription and so it moved from waiting to terminated state, then next time when the watcher sends another subscription for that user, it will remember the previous authorization and will transition from pending to active state. =20 Sanjay =20 Regards Ajay Kasam =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82B54.DC93F053 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah, you are right, thanks for=20 response.
In pending state (i.e after receiving 202 = accepted=20 response for the SUBSCRIBE), does the client need to refresh the=20 subscription?? 

From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)=20 [mailto:sanjsinh@cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 = 2:01=20 AM
To: Ajay Kumar kasam (WT01 - MCE-Mobile Devices);=20 simple@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state = machine in=20 RFC 3857

Pl. see inline ..

From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com=20 [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, = 2007 3:50=20 AM
To: simple@ietf.org
Subject: [Simple] = Subscription=20 state machine in RFC 3857

Hi,
 
  This is=20 regarding the Subscription state machine described in Section 4.7.1 of = RFC=20 3857.
This = diagram show=20 events like "approved, giveup, rejected, noresource" change = subscription=20 state from "waiting" to "terminated".
 
How = can event=20 "approved" make the subscription state change from "waiting" to=20 "terminated"??
[Sanjay=20 Sinha (sanjsinh)] Waiting state = is when an=20 unauthorized subscription expires waiting for authorization. When the = server=20 grants authorization for a subscription and if the subscription has = expired,=20 then it has to move to terminated=20 state.  
 
Another thing=20 missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is no event=20 mentioned for subscription state changing from =
"waiting" to=20 "active".
[Sanjay Sinha=20 (sanjsinh)] Subscription state can not move from waiting to = active since=20 it has already expired and hence was in waiting state to begin = with. If=20 server has authorized the subscription and so it moved from waiting=20 to terminated state, then next time when the watcher = sends=20 another subscription for that user, it will remember the previous = authorization and will transition from pending to=20 active state.
 
Sanjay
 
Regards
Ajay = Kasam
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_69FE_01C82B87.855B9490-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 12:09:39 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuWbP-0003cB-8F; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:09:35 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuWbN-0003bo-Jd for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:09:33 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuWbN-0003bb-3H for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:09:33 -0500 Received: from estacado-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net ([2001:470:1f03:266::2] helo=vicuna.estacado.net) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuWbK-0008TR-GO for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:09:33 -0500 Received: from [172.17.1.65] ([172.17.1.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by vicuna.estacado.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAKH9R7G067783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:09:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@estacado.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: SIMPLE mailing list From: Robert Sparks Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:09:24 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: cf4fa59384e76e63313391b70cd0dd25 Subject: [Simple] draft agenda: SIMPLE at IETF70 X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org Folks - We have one hour in Vancouver (Wednesday 1510 to 1610) Here's what we're planning to spend time on. If I've missed an agenda request or have forgotten something important, please let me know ASAP. 10m Administrivia (chairs) 10m Interdomain Scaling (Avshalom) 20m Chat (chairs) 10m simple-simple (Jonathan) 10m draft-schulzrinne-simple-ami-00.txt (Henning) Thanks, RjS _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 13:39:31 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuY0M-0000nb-5i; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:39:26 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuY0K-0000nV-KB for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:39:24 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuY0K-0000nN-Ae for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:39:24 -0500 Received: from dencmdt1.jabber.com ([207.182.164.8]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuY0F-00045v-KX for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:39:24 -0500 Received: by dencmdt1.jabber.com (Postfix, from userid 88) id 21A632DB5C; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:39:18 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on dencmdt1.jabber.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.9 Received: from dencms1.corp.jabber.com (exchange.jabber.com [207.182.164.150]) by dencmdt1.jabber.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284752DB65 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:39:16 -0700 (MST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Simple] I-DAction:draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:39:04 -0700 Message-ID: <0B9CD2D6B87A544987BD4EF2E145A94DFE3AA6@dencms1.corp.jabber.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Simple] I-DAction:draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt Thread-Index: Acgpxx/5rvPYULzYTEW4gWzMGUuAMwB2ihMQ From: "Joe Hildebrand" To: X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org > - Comparing to protocols that do not have the overhead of SIP = (e.g. > XMPP) shows that the number of messages is less by about a half. > The number of bytes is also reduced by about a half. It is > interesting to see that when the presence document is big (3000 > bytes) and partial and notify optimizations are applied, the > number of bytes is smaller in SIP! I'm sorry, but I just don't see how this last sentence could be true. I = was going to write a more detailed response, but see that Dave Cridland = already did here on 10/4: http://urltea.com/254t Either the work should be shown that leads to this statement, or it = should be removed. --=20 Joe Hildebrand=20 _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 16:30:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuagA-00027D-7o; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:30:46 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuag8-00022c-E1 for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:30:44 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuag8-000215-2w for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:30:44 -0500 Received: from mtagate7.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.156]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuag2-0003FU-I3 for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:30:44 -0500 Received: from d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.49]) by mtagate7.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAKLUa0I083066 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:30:36 GMT Received: from d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.229]) by d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v8.7) with ESMTP id lAKLUa7J3023022 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:30:36 +0100 Received: from d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lAKLUaA4009305 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:30:36 +0100 Received: from d12mc102.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12mc102.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.114]) by d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAKLUaRF009302; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:30:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <0B9CD2D6B87A544987BD4EF2E145A94DFE3AA6@dencms1.corp.jabber.com> References: <0B9CD2D6B87A544987BD4EF2E145A94DFE3AA6@dencms1.corp.jabber.com> To: "Joe Hildebrand" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [Simple] I-DAction:draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0NP August 02, 2007 From: Avshalom Houri Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:30:34 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D12MC102/12/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2HF71 | November 3, 2006) at 20/11/2007 23:30:35, Serialize complete at 20/11/2007 23:30:35 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Scan-Signature: 3d7f2f6612d734db849efa86ea692407 Cc: simple@ietf.org X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0121492561==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0121492561== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00762934C2257399_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00762934C2257399_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Joe, Did you look at the numbers in section at section 2.10 at the draft? Note that the claimed comparison was made for 3K message while using partial notifies. Maybe I should not have said "e.g. XMPP" since in XMPP you can claim that you will never use such a big presence document due to the use of getting other parts of the presence document via other ways like PEP. However, it seems to me that at the end of a day data is data, it does not really matter if you are going to get it from the server of via other ways. --Avshalom "Joe Hildebrand" 20/11/2007 20:39 To cc Subject RE: [Simple] I-DAction:draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt > - Comparing to protocols that do not have the overhead of SIP (e.g. > XMPP) shows that the number of messages is less by about a half. > The number of bytes is also reduced by about a half. It is > interesting to see that when the presence document is big (3000 > bytes) and partial and notify optimizations are applied, the > number of bytes is smaller in SIP! I'm sorry, but I just don't see how this last sentence could be true. I was going to write a more detailed response, but see that Dave Cridland already did here on 10/4: http://urltea.com/254t Either the work should be shown that leads to this statement, or it should be removed. -- Joe Hildebrand _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --=_alternative 00762934C2257399_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Joe,

Did you look at the numbers in section at section 2.10 at the draft? Note
that the claimed comparison was made for 3K message while using partial
notifies.

Maybe I should not have said "e.g. XMPP" since in XMPP you can claim that
you will never use such a big presence document due to the use of getting
other parts of the presence document via other ways like PEP.

However, it seems to me that at the end of a day data is data, it does not
really matter if you are going to get it from the server of via other ways.

--Avshalom


"Joe Hildebrand" <JHildebrand@jabber.com>

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> -     Comparing to protocols that do not have the overhead of SIP (e.g.
>       XMPP) shows that the number of messages is less by about a half.
>       The number of bytes is also reduced by about a half.  It is
>       interesting to see that when the presence document is big (3000
>       bytes) and partial and notify optimizations are applied, the
>       number of bytes is smaller in SIP!

I'm sorry, but I just don't see how this last sentence could be true.  I was going to write a more detailed response, but see that Dave Cridland already did here on 10/4:

http://urltea.com/254t

Either the work should be shown that leads to this statement, or it should be removed.

--
Joe Hildebrand


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--=_alternative 00762934C2257399_=-- --===============0121492561== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============0121492561==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 17:04:20 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubCX-0002dE-UM; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:13 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IubCV-0002cc-CP for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:11 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubCV-0002cT-07 for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:11 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubCU-0006Sj-7W for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:10 -0500 Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2007 17:04:10 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAKM49g9032616; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:09 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAKM41wr011314; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:04:05 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-215.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.124]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:04:01 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:03:54 -0500 Message-ID: <8983EC086A9D954BA74D9763E853CF3E0437F218@xmb-rtp-215.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <8E5C3E5BA0F2BB42B968827E1246EFC2013B96F6@BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 Thread-Index: AcgqiRzjlbD34TVMQOuFDORnW+tcnQAYQt7AABpggwAAG0JnkA== From: "Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2007 22:04:01.0293 (UTC) FILETIME=[41D093D0:01C82BC1] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=9672; t=1195596249; x=1196460249; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=sanjsinh@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Sanjay=20Sinha=20(sanjsinh)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[Simple]=20Subscription=20state=20machine=20in=20RFC= 203857 |Sender:=20 |To:=20,=20; bh=dntJMMKi1hUFyyKTIJR7eDV6Jl7uziY+4WH1KHECE0I=; b=VxupeiFjOhdV7vdQYvDi+YctD4phWolPXiBpOtQ4TsTwtLe+p8minJ4Iav0onkTPbm+JVT+e bOn2tlVaVBkislZmWPHWKlyPQ8jo3Wc/Z/ZZOfBxpBoCT5UEmZN3uxlf; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=sanjsinh@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1e467ff145ef391eb7b594ef62b8301f Cc: X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0170428413==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0170428413== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82BC1.417176EB" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82BC1.417176EB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 202 indicates the subscription is not yet established, it is pending because of things like authorization from the notifier etc. So it does not make sense to refresh the subscription until it is established. Besides the Notify is supposed to indicate the time left in subscription and subscriber will not get any while the subscription is still in pending state. =20 Sanjay=20 ________________________________ From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:08 AM To: simple@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 =09 =09 Yeah, you are right, thanks for response. In pending state (i.e after receiving 202 accepted response for the SUBSCRIBE), does the client need to refresh the subscription??=20 ________________________________ From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) [mailto:sanjsinh@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:01 AM To: Ajay Kumar kasam (WT01 - MCE-Mobile Devices); simple@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 =09 =09 Pl. see inline .. ________________________________ From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:50 AM To: simple@ietf.org Subject: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 =09 =09 Hi, =20 This is regarding the Subscription state machine described in Section 4.7.1 of RFC 3857. This diagram show events like "approved, giveup, rejected, noresource" change subscription state from "waiting" to "terminated". =20 How can event "approved" make the subscription state change from "waiting" to "terminated"?? [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Waiting state is when an unauthorized subscription expires waiting for authorization. When the server grants authorization for a subscription and if the subscription has expired, then it has to move to terminated state. =20 =09 =20 Another thing missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is no event mentioned for subscription state changing from "waiting" to "active". [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Subscription state can not move from waiting to active since it has already expired and hence was in waiting state to begin with. If server has authorized the subscription and so it moved from waiting to terminated state, then next time when the watcher sends another subscription for that user, it will remember the previous authorization and will transition from pending to active state. =20 Sanjay =20 Regards Ajay Kasam =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82BC1.417176EB Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
202 indicates the subscription is not yet = established,=20 it is pending because of things like authorization from the notifier = etc. So it=20 does not make sense to refresh the subscription until it is established. = Besides=20 the Notify is supposed to indicate the time left in subscription and = subscriber=20 will not get any while the subscription is still in pending=20 state.
 
Sanjay 

From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com=20 [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, = 2007 4:08=20 AM
To: simple@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Simple] = Subscription=20 state machine in RFC 3857

Yeah, you are right, thanks for=20 response.
In pending state (i.e = after=20 receiving 202 accepted response for the SUBSCRIBE), does = the client need=20 to refresh the = subscription?? 

From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)=20 [mailto:sanjsinh@cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, = 2007 2:01=20 AM
To: Ajay Kumar kasam (WT01 - MCE-Mobile Devices);=20 simple@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state = machine in=20 RFC 3857

Pl. see inline ..

From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com=20 [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, = 2007=20 3:50 AM
To: simple@ietf.org
Subject: [Simple]=20 Subscription state machine in RFC 3857

Hi,
 
  This is=20 regarding the Subscription state machine described in Section 4.7.1 = of RFC=20 3857.
This diagram=20 show events like "approved, giveup, rejected, = noresource" change=20 subscription state from "waiting" to = "terminated".
 
How can event=20 "approved" make the subscription state change from "waiting" to = "terminated"??
[Sanjay=20 Sinha (sanjsinh)] Waiting = state is when=20 an unauthorized subscription expires waiting for authorization. When = the=20 server grants authorization for a subscription and if the = subscription has=20 expired, then it has to move to terminated=20 state.  
 
Another thing=20 missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is no event=20 mentioned for subscription state changing from=20
"waiting"=20 to "active".
[Sanjay=20 Sinha (sanjsinh)] Subscription state can not move from waiting = to=20 active since it has already expired and hence was in waiting = state to=20 begin with. If server has authorized the subscription and so it = moved from=20 waiting to terminated state, then next time when = the watcher=20 sends another subscription for that user, it will remember the = previous=20 authorization and will transition from pending to=20 active state.
 
Sanjay
 
Regards
Ajay=20 Kasam
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C82BC1.417176EB-- --===============0170428413== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============0170428413==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 17:12:09 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubKA-0000GA-GA; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:12:06 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IubK9-0000Fw-O7 for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:12:05 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubK9-0000Fo-DR for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:12:05 -0500 Received: from nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net ([2001:470:1f03:267::2] helo=nostrum.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubK8-0004o6-3I for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:12:05 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.235] (pool-96-226-64-76.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [96.226.64.76]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAKMBvWM055617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:11:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) In-Reply-To: <8983EC086A9D954BA74D9763E853CF3E0437F218@xmb-rtp-215.amer.cisco.com> References: <8983EC086A9D954BA74D9763E853CF3E0437F218@xmb-rtp-215.amer.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Message-Id: From: Robert Sparks Subject: Re: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:11:54 -0600 To: "Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 96.226.64.76 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4855/Tue Nov 20 03:49:20 2007 on shaman.nostrum.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 65bc4909d78e8b10349def623cf7a1d1 Cc: simple@ietf.org X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0127170943==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org --===============0127170943== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-26-393666629 --Apple-Mail-26-393666629 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed This is not correct. A 202 _does_ establish a subscription, and the immediate NOTIFY that you _will_ get will have a Subscription-State header in it reflecting when the subscription will expire. (That header will also probably say the subscription is in the pending state, but there are cases were it will say otherwise). If that time elapses and you don't refresh the subscription, the subscription will terminate. 202 is a legacy response. When we were developing SIP events, we thought we needed to say something about whether the subscription was authorized in the response to the SUBSCRIBE. After we understood the ramifications of SUBSCRIBE being a non-INVITE request (it can't pend and you don't get all the final responses back when it forks), we moved that information into the Subscription-State header in the NOTIFY and make an initial immediate NOTIFY mandatory - even for pending subscriptions. When we made that move, we could (probably should) have gone back and removed 202 from the spec. For any practical purpose, receiving a 200 and a 202 to a SUBSCRIBE means exactly the same thing. RjS On Nov 20, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) wrote: > 202 indicates the subscription is not yet established, it is > pending because of things like authorization from the notifier etc. > So it does not make sense to refresh the subscription until it is > established. Besides the Notify is supposed to indicate the time > left in subscription and subscriber will not get any while the > subscription is still in pending state. > > Sanjay > > From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:08 AM > To: simple@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 > > Yeah, you are right, thanks for response. > In pending state (i.e after receiving 202 accepted response for the > SUBSCRIBE), does the client need to refresh the subscription?? > > From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) [mailto:sanjsinh@cisco.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:01 AM > To: Ajay Kumar kasam (WT01 - MCE-Mobile Devices); simple@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 > > Pl. see inline .. > > From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com] > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:50 AM > To: simple@ietf.org > Subject: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 > > Hi, > > This is regarding the Subscription state machine described in > Section 4.7.1 of RFC 3857. > This diagram show events like "approved, giveup, rejected, > noresource" change subscription state from "waiting" to "terminated". > > How can event "approved" make the subscription state change from > "waiting" to "terminated"?? > [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Waiting state is when an unauthorized > subscription expires waiting for authorization. When the server > grants authorization for a subscription and if the subscription has > expired, then it has to move to terminated state. > > Another thing missing in the Subscription state machine is that > there is no event mentioned for subscription state changing from > "waiting" to "active". > [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Subscription state can not move from > waiting to active since it has already expired and hence was in > waiting state to begin with. If server has authorized the > subscription and so it moved from waiting to terminated state, then > next time when the watcher sends another subscription for that > user, it will remember the previous authorization and will > transition from pending to active state. > > Sanjay > > Regards > Ajay Kasam > > > _______________________________________________ > Simple mailing list > Simple@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --Apple-Mail-26-393666629 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is not correct.

A 202 _does_ establish a = subscription, and the immediate NOTIFY that you _will_ get will have a = Subscription-State header in it reflecting when the subscription will = expire.
(That header will also probably say the subscription is in = the pending state, but there are cases were it will say = otherwise).
If that time elapses and you don't refresh the = subscription, the subscription will terminate.

202 is a legacy response. = When we were developing SIP events, we thought we needed to say = something about whether the subscription was authorized in the response = to the SUBSCRIBE.
After we understood the ramifications of = SUBSCRIBE being a non-INVITE request (it can't pend and you don't get = all the final responses back when it forks), we moved that information = into the Subscription-State header in the NOTIFY and make an initial = immediate NOTIFY mandatory - even for pending subscriptions. When we = made that move, we could (probably should) have gone back and removed = 202 from the spec.

For any practical purpose, = receiving a 200 and a 202 to a SUBSCRIBE means exactly the same = thing.

RjS

On Nov 20, = 2007, at 4:03 PM, Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) wrote:

202 indicates the = subscription is not yet established, it is pending because of things = like authorization from the notifier etc. So it does not make sense to = refresh the subscription until it is established. Besides the Notify is = supposed to indicate the time left in subscription and subscriber will = not get any while the subscription is still in pending = state.
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Sanjay=A0

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From: = ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com] =
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:08 AM
To: simple@ietf.org
Subject: = RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC = 3857

Yeah, you are right, thanks for = response.
In pending state (i.e after receiving 202 = accepted response for the SUBSCRIBE), does the=A0client need to = refresh the subscription??=A0

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From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) [mailto:sanjsinh@cisco.com] =
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:01 AM
To: Ajay = Kumar kasam (WT01 - MCE-Mobile Devices); simple@ietf.org
Subject: = RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC = 3857

Pl. see inline ..

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From: = ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com] =
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:50 AM
To: simple@ietf.org
Subject: = [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857

=
Hi,
=A0
=A0 This is = regarding the Subscription state machine described in Section 4.7.1 = of RFC 3857.
This = diagram show events like "approved, giveup, rejected, = noresource"=A0change subscription state from "waiting" to = "terminated".
=A0
How can = event "approved" make the subscription state=A0change from "waiting" = to "terminated"??
[Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)]=A0Waiting state is when an unauthorized = subscription expires waiting for authorization. When the server = grants authorization for a subscription and if the subscription has = expired, then it has to move to terminated = state.=A0=A0
=A0
Another = thing missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is no = event mentioned=A0for subscription state=A0changing from =
"waiting" to "active".
[Sanjay Sinha = (sanjsinh)]=A0Subscription state can not move from waiting to active = since it=A0has already expired and hence was in waiting state to = begin with. If server has authorized the subscription and so it moved = from waiting to=A0terminated state, then next=A0time when = the=A0watcher sends another subscription for that=A0user, it will = remember the previous authorization and=A0will=A0transition from = pending to active=A0state.
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=
Sanjay
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Regards
Ajay = Kasam
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Simple mailing list
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= --Apple-Mail-26-393666629-- --===============0127170943== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============0127170943==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 17:16:23 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubOF-000556-TE; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:16:19 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IubOE-0004zx-9H for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:16:18 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubOD-0004zo-UI for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:16:17 -0500 Received: from dencmdt2.jabber.com ([207.182.162.8]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubOD-0006tU-HI for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:16:17 -0500 Received: by dencmdt2.jabber.com (Postfix, from userid 88) id C76B550ADC; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:16:16 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on dencmdt2.jabber.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.9 Received: from dencms1.corp.jabber.com (dencms1.corp.jabber.com [10.2.0.33]) by dencmdt2.jabber.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C17650AD6; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:16:16 -0700 (MST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Simple] I-DAction:draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:07:15 -0700 Message-ID: <0B9CD2D6B87A544987BD4EF2E145A94DFE3AA7@dencms1.corp.jabber.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Simple] I-DAction:draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt Thread-Index: AcgrvJz5JaHyLHffTja+M/cUKl/JqgAA+ikg From: "Joe Hildebrand" To: "Avshalom Houri" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Cc: simple@ietf.org X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org > Did you look at the numbers in section at section 2.10 at the=20 > draft? Note that the claimed comparison was made for 3K=20 > message while using partial notifies.=20 Yes. I'm saying that XMPP effectively always uses partial notifies, so = we won't have 3k messages, even with 3k of presence data. > Maybe I should not have said "e.g. XMPP" since in XMPP you=20 > can claim that you will never use such a big presence=20 > document due to the use of getting other parts of the=20 > presence document via other ways like PEP.=20 If you have another presence protocol in mind, like IMPS/WV, I don't = have any objection to changing the e.g. > However, it seems to me that at the end of a day data is=20 > data, it does not really matter if you are going to get it=20 > from the server of via other ways.=20 It's a question of how often you get which subset of the data. If you = get a small subset of the data, only when it changes, rather than a full = document for any change, it has a large impact on bandwidth. This is = the same reason that partial-notify exists. =20 Even with the caveat that in XMPP you have to transmit the entire PEP = item (a collection of related data, rather than just the changed = element), the overhead of the SIP headers will almost always be greater = than the item overhead, since PEP items tend to be very small. --=20 Joe Hildebrand _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 17:37:17 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubiT-00017s-Oo; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:37:13 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IubiS-00017O-Dw for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:37:12 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubiS-00017D-43 for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:37:12 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com ([64.102.122.148]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IubiO-0005ye-SA for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:37:12 -0500 Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2007 17:37:08 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAKMb8fq003727; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:37:08 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAKMa4WV018038; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:37:08 GMT Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:36:47 -0500 Received: from [161.44.174.241] ([161.44.174.241]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:36:46 -0500 Message-ID: <4743617E.3040101@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:36:46 -0500 From: Paul Kyzivat User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)" Subject: Re: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 References: <8983EC086A9D954BA74D9763E853CF3E0437F218@xmb-rtp-215.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <8983EC086A9D954BA74D9763E853CF3E0437F218@xmb-rtp-215.amer.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2007 22:36:47.0017 (UTC) FILETIME=[D57A4190:01C82BC5] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=5166; t=1195598228; x=1196462228; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim1001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=pkyzivat@cisco.com; z=From:=20Paul=20Kyzivat=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Simple]=20Subscription=20state=20machine=20in=20RFC= 203857 |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22Sanjay=20Sinha=20(sanjsinh)=22=20; bh=U1afSk8uxCOZPl6bEo5XjCLtlgZccqCHC0PgHnKg5ac=; b=duD0df3q0dNCXFQ9iX8kQe+QxyAc5UzWp7lHV8lO+1AAbWxzFAotqVqZx9VBnvSNAFXZPjWb cezvEMGHR2HbnqL6SxVw+wVkdbjbOQKqv+SCMX1448+ASIfPSPmB960h; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1; header.From=pkyzivat@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim1001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: c83ccb5cc10e751496398f1233ca9c3a Cc: simple@ietf.org X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) wrote: > 202 indicates the subscription is not yet established, it is pending > because of things like authorization from the notifier etc. So it does > not make sense to refresh the subscription until it is established. > Besides the Notify is supposed to indicate the time left in subscription > and subscriber will not get any while the subscription is still in > pending state. From RFC 3265 section 3.1.4.1: This SUBSCRIBE request will be confirmed with a final response. 200-class responses indicate that the subscription has been accepted, and that a NOTIFY will be sent immediately. A 200 response indicates that the subscription has been accepted and that the user is authorized to subscribe to the requested resource. A 202 response merely indicates that the subscription has been understood, and that authorization may or may not have been granted. The "Expires" header in a 200-class response to SUBSCRIBE indicates the actual duration for which the subscription will remain active (unless refreshed). Note that a "200-class response" includes both 200 and 202. So a 202 does say that a subscription has been accepted, and that a NOTIFY will be sent immediately. The 202 will contain an Expires header. If you do nothing more, and authorization is neither granted nor denied, this subscription will presumably last until it expires, and then will go away. (The UAS should send a final NOTIFY at that time.) If the UAC wants to keep that subscription active longer (hoping that authorization will be granted) then it MAY send a reSUBSCRIBE in hopes of extending the expiration time. If you *don't* do that, then when the subscription goes away there is a fair chance that the UAS will no longer remember that you had requested authorization so you may not get it. In particular, if the subscriber is in one time zone and the notifier is in a time zone with non-overlapping working hours, and the subscriber only tries to establish the subscription when there is a user connected, then without refreshing the subscription you may never get authorized. Paul > Sanjay > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:08 AM > *To:* simple@ietf.org > *Subject:* RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 > > Yeah, you are right, thanks for response. > In pending state (i.e after receiving 202 accepted response for the > SUBSCRIBE), does the client need to refresh the subscription?? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) [mailto:sanjsinh@cisco.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:01 AM > *To:* Ajay Kumar kasam (WT01 - MCE-Mobile Devices); simple@ietf.org > *Subject:* RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 > > Pl. see inline .. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com] > *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2007 3:50 AM > *To:* simple@ietf.org > *Subject:* [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 > > Hi, > > This is regarding the Subscription state machine described in > Section 4.7.1 of RFC 3857. > This diagram show events like "approved, giveup, rejected, > noresource" change subscription state from "waiting" to > "terminated". > > How can event "approved" make the subscription state change from > "waiting" to "terminated"?? > [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Waiting state is when an unauthorized > subscription expires waiting for authorization. When the server > grants authorization for a subscription and if the subscription > has expired, then it has to move to terminated state. > > Another thing missing in the Subscription state machine is that > there is no event mentioned for subscription state changing from > "waiting" to "active". > [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Subscription state can not move from > waiting to active since it has already expired and hence was in > waiting state to begin with. If server has authorized the > subscription and so it moved from waiting to terminated state, > then next time when the watcher sends another subscription for > that user, it will remember the previous authorization > and will transition from pending to active state. > > Sanjay > > Regards > Ajay Kasam > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Simple mailing list > Simple@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 18:47:51 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IucoS-0000M3-AF; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:47:28 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IucoQ-0000Ly-LK for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:47:26 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IucoQ-0000Lp-8X for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:47:26 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IucoP-0002N7-3W for simple@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:47:26 -0500 Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2007 18:47:23 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAKNlOXB004495; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:47:24 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAKNlOVt007885; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:47:24 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-215.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.124]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:47:23 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:47:22 -0500 Message-ID: <8983EC086A9D954BA74D9763E853CF3E0437F272@xmb-rtp-215.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 Thread-Index: AcgrwmNCHlcAw6/MRkmj5FqtQtABoAADS4YQ From: "Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)" To: "Robert Sparks" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2007 23:47:23.0828 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2D04F40:01C82BCF] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=15688; t=1195602444; x=1196466444; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=sanjsinh@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Sanjay=20Sinha=20(sanjsinh)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[Simple]=20Subscription=20state=20machine=20in=20RFC= 203857 |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22Robert=20Sparks=22=20; bh=kQr8TzmkAVqDvURdWXRi+u35L4pj7bdOpSoZ8QoB/ts=; b=r33E4Pzep6DB585gzGsUYlhJi3ZShok1r3dTGwxkeLPpZW7fLvIE3NgoX9IG9FaD/C5+bQVu FPyjXw+xTHZ3q/6BVOjoswOm+tHHR942jrXmr+1PZda4JP9qVdJxz/hw; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=sanjsinh@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 715d0e6950aaebd45af78ef9318d0186 Cc: simple@ietf.org X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2109654099==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2109654099== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82BCF.B28E7931" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82BCF.B28E7931 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah you are right. I forgot that an immediate Notify will be sent even for a pending subscription. =20 Thanks ________________________________ From: Robert Sparks [mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:12 PM To: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) Cc: ajay.kasam@wipro.com; simple@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 =09 =09 This is not correct.=20 A 202 _does_ establish a subscription, and the immediate NOTIFY that you _will_ get will have a Subscription-State header in it reflecting when the subscription will expire.=20 (That header will also probably say the subscription is in the pending state, but there are cases were it will say otherwise).=20 If that time elapses and you don't refresh the subscription, the subscription will terminate. 202 is a legacy response. When we were developing SIP events, we thought we needed to say something about whether the subscription was authorized in the response to the SUBSCRIBE. After we understood the ramifications of SUBSCRIBE being a non-INVITE request (it can't pend and you don't get all the final responses back when it forks), we moved that information into the Subscription-State header in the NOTIFY and make an initial immediate NOTIFY mandatory - even for pending subscriptions. When we made that move, we could (probably should) have gone back and removed 202 from the spec. For any practical purpose, receiving a 200 and a 202 to a SUBSCRIBE means exactly the same thing. RjS On Nov 20, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) wrote: 202 indicates the subscription is not yet established, it is pending because of things like authorization from the notifier etc. So it does not make sense to refresh the subscription until it is established. Besides the Notify is supposed to indicate the time left in subscription and subscriber will not get any while the subscription is still in pending state. =20 Sanjay=20 ________________________________ From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:08 AM To: simple@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 =09 =09 Yeah, you are right, thanks for response. In pending state (i.e after receiving 202 accepted response for the SUBSCRIBE), does the client need to refresh the subscription??=20 ________________________________ From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) [mailto:sanjsinh@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:01 AM To: Ajay Kumar kasam (WT01 - MCE-Mobile Devices); simple@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 =09 =09 Pl. see inline .. ________________________________ From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com]=20 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:50 AM To: simple@ietf.org Subject: [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC 3857 =09 =09 Hi, =20 This is regarding the Subscription state machine described in Section 4.7.1 of RFC 3857. This diagram show events like "approved, giveup, rejected, noresource" change subscription state from "waiting" to "terminated". =20 How can event "approved" make the subscription state change from "waiting" to "terminated"?? [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Waiting state is when an unauthorized subscription expires waiting for authorization. When the server grants authorization for a subscription and if the subscription has expired, then it has to move to terminated state. =20 =09 =20 Another thing missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is no event mentioned for subscription state changing from=20 "waiting" to "active". [Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Subscription state can not move from waiting to active since it has already expired and hence was in waiting state to begin with. If server has authorized the subscription and so it moved from waiting to terminated state, then next time when the watcher sends another subscription for that user, it will remember the previous authorization and will transition from pending to active state. =20 Sanjay =20 Regards Ajay Kasam =20 =20 _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82BCF.B28E7931 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah you are right. I forgot that an immediate = Notify will=20 be sent even for a pending subscription.
 
Thanks

From: Robert Sparks=20 [mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, = 2007 5:12=20 PM
To: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)
Cc: = ajay.kasam@wipro.com;=20 simple@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Simple] Subscription state = machine in=20 RFC 3857

This is not correct.

A 202 _does_ establish a subscription, and the immediate NOTIFY = that you=20 _will_ get will have a Subscription-State header in it reflecting when = the=20 subscription will expire.
(That header will also probably say the subscription is in the = pending=20 state, but there are cases were it will say otherwise).
If that time elapses and you don't refresh the subscription, the=20 subscription will terminate.

202 is a legacy response. When we were developing SIP events, we = thought=20 we needed to say something about whether the subscription was = authorized in=20 the response to the SUBSCRIBE.
After we understood the ramifications of SUBSCRIBE being a = non-INVITE=20 request (it can't pend and you don't get all the final responses back = when it=20 forks), we moved that information into the Subscription-State header = in the=20 NOTIFY and make an initial immediate NOTIFY mandatory - even for = pending=20 subscriptions. When we made that move, we could (probably should) have = gone=20 back and removed 202 from the spec.

For any practical purpose, receiving a 200 and a 202 to a = SUBSCRIBE means=20 exactly the same thing.

RjS

On Nov 20, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) = wrote:
202 indicates the subscription is not yet = established, it is pending because of things like authorization from = the=20 notifier etc. So it does not make sense to refresh the subscription = until it=20 is established. Besides the Notify is supposed to indicate the time = left in=20 subscription and subscriber will not get any while the subscription = is still=20 in pending state.
 
Sanjay 

From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:08 AM
To: = simple@ietf.org
Subject: = RE:=20 [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC = 3857

Yeah, you are right, thanks for=20 response.
In pending state = (i.e after=20 receiving 202 accepted response for the SUBSCRIBE), does = the client=20 need to refresh the=20 subscription?? 

From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) = [mailto:sanjsinh@cisco.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:01 AM
To: = Ajay=20 Kumar kasam (WT01 - MCE-Mobile Devices); simple@ietf.org
Subject: = RE:=20 [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC = 3857

Pl. see inline = ..

From: ajay.kasam@wipro.com = [mailto:ajay.kasam@wipro.com]=20
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:50 AM
To: = simple@ietf.org
Subject:=20 [Simple] Subscription state machine in RFC = 3857

Hi,
 
  This=20 is regarding the Subscription state machine described in Section = 4.7.1=20 of RFC 3857.
This diagram=20 show events like "approved, giveup, rejected, = noresource" change=20 subscription state from "waiting" to = "terminated".
 
How can=20 event "approved" make the subscription state change from = "waiting"=20 to "terminated"??
[Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Waiting state is when an unauthorized = subscription expires waiting for authorization. When the server = grants=20 authorization for a subscription and if the subscription has = expired,=20 then it has to move to terminated=20 state.  
 
Another=20 thing missing in the Subscription state machine is that there is = no=20 event mentioned for subscription state changing from=20
"waiting" to "active".
[Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Subscription = state can not=20 move from waiting to active since it has already expired = and hence=20 was in waiting state to begin with. If server has authorized the = subscription and so it moved from waiting to terminated = state, then=20 next time when the watcher sends another subscription = for=20 that user, it will remember the previous authorization=20 and will transition from pending to=20 active state.
 
Sanjay
 
Regards
Ajay=20 Kasam
 
 
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Well, it did work sometimes, but the success= =20 rate was around 20% (of course, we'd need a much larger test base, so don't= =20 take the number as granted). As such, I am not so sure if MSRP-ICE will bri= ng=20 much. draft-niemi-simple-msrp-ice is indeed expired. In the mean time, we've been considering adding baseline COMEDIA to MSRP, s= o=20 we can at least get reliable MSRP connection establishment when the invitin= g=20 party is not NATted (e.g. a chat server inviting a possible NATted user),=20 without the requirement for a dedicated relay. The document is there: https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/draft-denis-simple-msrp-comedia/ In principle, we could also have both MSRP-COMEDIA and MSRP-ICE, with the=20 latter an extension to the former, if it is deemed valuable. Comments welcome, [CC'ing Christer as he raised a related issue a while ago] =2D-=20 R=E9mi Denis-Courmont _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 21 06:51:55 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuo74-0007Fi-Hp; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:51:26 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuo73-0007Fd-3b for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:51:25 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuo72-0007FN-JU for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:51:24 -0500 Received: from mtagate1.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.150]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuo72-0005hn-3k for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:51:24 -0500 Received: from d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.49]) by mtagate1.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lALBpM0s188302 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:51:22 GMT Received: from d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.229]) by d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v8.7) with ESMTP id lALBpMdK2478320 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:51:22 +0100 Received: from d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lALBpLpa018995 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:51:21 +0100 Received: from d12mc102.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12mc102.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.114]) by d12av04.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lALBpLhw018992 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:51:21 +0100 To: simple mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0NP August 02, 2007 From: Avshalom Houri Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:51:19 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D12MC102/12/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2HF71 | November 3, 2006) at 21/11/2007 13:51:21, Serialize complete at 21/11/2007 13:51:21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 Subject: [Simple] Excel file that was for caclulations X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1674594062==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1674594062== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00412097C225739A_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00412097C225739A_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The excel file that was used for the calculations in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt Can be found in: http://www.haifa.il.ibm.com/ilsl/SIMPLE_message_computation-03.xls Comments/corrections are welcome. Thanks --Avshalom --=_alternative 00412097C225739A_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"

The excel file that was used for the calculations in

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt
Can be found in:

http://www.haifa.il.ibm.com/ilsl/SIMPLE_message_computation-03.xls

Comments/corrections are welcome.

Thanks
--Avshalom
 --=_alternative 00412097C225739A_=-- --===============1674594062== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============1674594062==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 21 09:26:36 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuqWp-00036X-MG; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:26:11 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuqWo-00034R-CX for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:26:10 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuqWo-00034I-2n for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:26:10 -0500 Received: from nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net ([2001:470:1f03:267::2] helo=nostrum.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuqWl-0006bJ-G3 for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:26:10 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.235] (pool-96-226-64-76.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [96.226.64.76]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lALEQ4pB004897 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:26:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Message-Id: From: Robert Sparks Subject: Re: [Simple] Excel file that was for caclulations Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:26:02 -0600 To: Avshalom Houri X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 96.226.64.76 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4872/Wed Nov 21 02:36:49 2007 on shaman.nostrum.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 4b800b1eab964a31702fa68f1ff0e955 Cc: simple mailing list X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0045404175==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org --===============0045404175== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-34-452113933 --Apple-Mail-34-452113933 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed You got to this before I could. On Nov 21, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Avshalom Houri wrote: > > > The excel file that was used for the calculations in > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-interdomain- > scaling-analysis-03.txt > > Can be found in: > > http://www.haifa.il.ibm.com/ilsl/SIMPLE_message_computation-03.xls > > Comments/corrections are welcome. > > Thanks > --Avshalom > _______________________________________________ > Simple mailing list > Simple@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --Apple-Mail-34-452113933 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII You got to this before I = could.

On Nov 21, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Avshalom Houri = wrote:



The excel = file that was used for the calculations in

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-in= terdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt
Can = be found in:

http://www.haifa.il.ibm.com/ilsl/SIMPLE_message_comput= ation-03.xls

Comments/corrections are welcome.
=
Thanks
--Avshalom
=
Simple mailing list
=

= --Apple-Mail-34-452113933-- --===============0045404175== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============0045404175==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 21 10:33:38 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iura3-0007xG-Ax; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:33:35 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iura1-0007uk-Kw for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:33:33 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iura1-0007tD-Az for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:33:33 -0500 Received: from nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net ([2001:470:1f03:267::2] helo=nostrum.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iura0-0000FP-Qd for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:33:33 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.235] (pool-96-226-64-76.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [96.226.64.76]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lALFXVfN008693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:33:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: simple mailing list From: Robert Sparks Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:33:30 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 96.226.64.76 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4872/Wed Nov 21 02:36:49 2007 on shaman.nostrum.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 30ac594df0e66ffa5a93eb4c48bcb014 Subject: [Simple] Updated agenda X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org An updated agenda is available at http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07dec/agenda/simple.html Based on feedback, I removed simple-simple and added Jonathan's two new interdomain mechanism drafts. If we have extra time, we'll discuss msrp-comedia/msrp-ice. RjS _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 21 13:06:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IutxD-00019K-Nv; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:05:39 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IutxC-00016F-06 for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:05:38 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IutxB-000167-Lp for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:05:37 -0500 Received: from dencmdt1.jabber.com ([207.182.164.8]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IutxB-0002M9-9n for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:05:37 -0500 Received: by dencmdt1.jabber.com (Postfix, from userid 88) id 915162DBFD; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:05:36 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on dencmdt1.jabber.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.9 Received: from dencms1.corp.jabber.com (exchange.jabber.com [207.182.164.150]) by dencmdt1.jabber.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABD12DBF9 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:05:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from wrk248.corp.jabber.com ([10.2.1.248]) by dencms1.corp.jabber.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:05:02 -0700 Message-Id: <7FC53624-CE97-499C-BE72-DC865D9E2139@jabber.com> From: Joe Hildebrand To: simple mailing list In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: Re: [Simple] Excel file that was for caclulations Jabber-Id: jhildebrand@corp.jabber.com Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:04:57 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2007 18:05:02.0329 (UTC) FILETIME=[098A0E90:01C82C69] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7baded97d9887f7a0c7e8a33c2e3ea1b X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org I assume "other protocol" here is XMPP? 150 is large for a "subscribe"... I assume you mean this: These are more likely to be 100 bytes or less. But that's a quibble, since it only happens on startup. As I said earlier, the average presence document of size 3000 is invalid, both in standards-world and in practice. If you want this to be accurate, you should perform the same sorts of analysis as on the "Notify and Partial Opt" page. There is no termination in XMPP, so all of the Txx lines should be 0, I think. On Nov 21, 2007, at 4:51 AM, Avshalom Houri wrote: > The excel file that was used for the calculations in > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-03.txt > > > Can be found in: > > http://www.haifa.il.ibm.com/ilsl/SIMPLE_message_computation-03.xls > > Comments/corrections are welcome. > > Thanks > --Avshalom > _______________________________________________ > Simple mailing list > Simple@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple -- Joe Hildebrand _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From simple-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 22 00:27:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iv4ag-0005E1-W2; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:27:06 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iv4af-0005Dv-Oj for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:27:05 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iv4ad-0005BU-Ta for simple@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:27:05 -0500 Received: from wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com ([203.91.201.26]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iv4aZ-0000bm-TG for simple@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:27:03 -0500 Received: from wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC8218057 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:56:55 +0530 (IST) Received: from blr-ec-bh02.wipro.com (blr-ec-bh02.wipro.com [10.201.50.92]) by wip-cdc-wd.wipro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CF518051 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:56:55 +0530 (IST) Received: from BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com ([10.201.51.211]) by blr-ec-bh02.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:56:56 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:56:22 +0530 Message-ID: <8E5C3E5BA0F2BB42B968827E1246EFC201440609@BLR-EC-MBX08.wipro.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Regarding RFC 3857 section 4.7.2 Thread-Index: AcgsyDgYXDltPuVKSeal5wSmEDCsfg== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2007 05:26:56.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C10F440:01C82CC8] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3002fc2e661cd7f114cb6bae92fe88f1 Subject: [Simple] Regarding RFC 3857 section 4.7.2 X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1898034433==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1898034433== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82CC8.4C02F636" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82CC8.4C02F636 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, =20 This is regarding RFC 3857 (Watcher Information Event template Package) 4.7.2. Applying the State Machine =20 Frequently, states in the subscription state machine will be transient. For example, if an authorized watcher performs a fetch operation, this will cause the state machine to be created, transition from init to active, and then from active to terminated, followed by a destruction of the FSM. In such cases, watcherinfo notifications SHOULD NOT be sent for any transient states. In the prior example, the server wouldn't send any notifications, since all of the states are transient =20 above paragraph states winfo notifications are NOT sent?? so what state transitions result in server sending winfo notifications?? Could someone explain this above paragraph with more clarity and quoting usecase scenarios =20 Regards Ajay Kasam ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82CC8.4C02F636 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 All,
 
This is regarding = RFC=20 3857 (Watcher Information Event template Package)   
4.7.2.  Applying the State=20 Machine
  
 Frequently, states in the subscription = state=20 machine will be
   transient.  For example, if an = authorized=20 watcher performs a fetch
   operation, this will cause the = state=20 machine to be created,
   transition from init to active, = and then=20 from active to terminated,
   followed by a destruction of = the=20 FSM.  In such cases, watcherinfo
   notifications = SHOULD NOT=20 be sent for any transient states.  In the
   prior = example,=20 the server wouldn't send any notifications, since all
   of = the=20 states are transient
 
above=20 paragraph states winfo notifications are NOT sent?? so what = state=20 transitions result in server
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Could = someone=20 explain this above paragraph with more clarity and quoting usecase=20 scenarios
 
Regards
Ajay=20 Kasam
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Is it not better to filter this complete presence state information = first by PS in domain A based on a domain level privacy filter. Further = specific watcher dependent filtering is done in the PS of domain B. =20 As long as the amount of different domains is limited, the trust and = privacy filtering can be handled and controlled in one or another way. = However, when the PS has to interwork with many different domains, how = can the trust and privacy be kept under control of the presentity? In = the end, the presence state and the privacy filtering is available on = many, many different systems which can dynamically change very often so = that it's completely out of control. How can a presence rule be updated = in all these different domains? How long will it take and what is the = guarantee for it? Is the presentity still aware which watchers will = receive which presence state? Suppose the presentity wants to apply a = new filter to different watchers in different domains. How can it be = guaranteed that this is done in a synchronized way in all these = different domains to avoid a mismatch of the presence state? =20 2.1.2 NOTIFY failure aggregation Is the subscription state of each watcher known by the presence server = of the presentity or is the subscription state only kept in the PS of = the watcher?=20 What will be done by the PS in domain A when the Notify failure = indicates that a certain watcher in domain B has not successfully = received a NOTIFY message? Will a new NOTIFY message be sent by the PS = of domain B or will it be sent by PS of domain A directly to the watcher = or always to its PS? =20 2.1.3 Transferring the watcher list When the watcher list is part of the NOFITY message, could it then not = make sense to do the privacy filtering in domain A and determine which = watchers belong to which filtered documents and pass the different = watcher lists and their related presence document in function of the = privacy filtering all together in one message or in different messages = in function of the filtered presence document. =20 2.2 Batched notification ...."The presence server in domain B can then deliver the message to the = watcher or create individual NOTIFY messages for different watchers...." = -> Should this not be presentities (different NOTIFY messages to the = watcher in function of the presentity)? =20 2.3 Timed presence There are indeed many different end-user requirements. Mostly, all = people want to be informed directly, until they have to pay in addition = for that. In practice however, there is something as "directly", "as = soon as possible", "as late as possible", "not after a certain moment in = time", etc. Both the Presence server of the presentity and the presence = server of the watcher can make use of these practices to optimize their = traffic to serve the user as close as possible with their wishes. When = the capacity of the servers and the networks is there, why not use this = capacity to serve the end-user even better? =20 2.4 On-Demand =20 This depends how often the "poll" will be made. Misbehaving watchers can = seriously affect the performance of the PS. Instead of a SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY, a RSS-feed mechanism as described in = draft-roy-simple-presencerss-01.txt could also be used as an on-demand = model. =20 3. Conclusions Same comment as in other drafts: ".... if we do not think about = scalability with the protocol design it will not be very hard to scale." = -> not! =20 4. Security considerations Yes, this is a main concern. In principle, everybody is able to provide = a presence server and provide this as a "free service" to many users. = How can my presence server know which other worldwide available presence = servers can be trusted? =20 br, Marc. =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82F4C.E9779DFD Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi=20 Avshalom,

 

 

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-houri-sipping-presence= -scaling-requirements-01.txt

Typos in =A74: with = this problem?,=20 are considered? can be deleted.

 

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-houri-simple-interdoma= in-scaling-optimizations-00.txt

2.1 = ... a single=20 NOTIFY per presentity in domain B  -> should this not be domain = A?

 

2.1.1 "Complete=20 presence state information needs to be sent from the presentity's domain = to=20 watcher's domain".

Is = it not better=20 to filter this complete presence state information first by PS in domain = A based=20 on a domain level privacy filter. Further specific watcher dependent = filtering=20 is done in the PS of domain B.

 

As = long as the=20 amount of different domains is limited, the trust and privacy filtering = can be=20 handled and controlled in one or another way. However, when the PS has = to=20 interwork with many different domains, how can the trust and privacy be = kept=20 under control of the presentity? In the end, the presence state and the = privacy=20 filtering is available on many, many different systems which can = dynamically=20 change very often so that it's completely out of control. How can a = presence=20 rule be updated in all these different domains? How long will it take = and what=20 is the guarantee for it? Is the presentity still aware which watchers = will=20 receive which presence state? Suppose the presentity wants to apply a = new filter=20 to different watchers in different domains. How can it be guaranteed = that this=20 is done in a synchronized way in all these different domains to avoid a = mismatch=20 of the presence state?

 

2.1.2 NOTIFY=20 failure aggregation

Is = the=20 subscription state of each watcher known by the presence server of the=20 presentity or is the subscription state only kept in the PS of the = watcher?=20

What will be done=20 by the PS in domain A when the Notify failure indicates that a certain = watcher=20 in domain B has not successfully received a NOTIFY message? Will a new = NOTIFY=20 message be sent by the PS of domain B or will it be sent by PS of domain = A=20 directly to the watcher or always to its = PS?

 

2.1.3=20 Transferring the watcher list

When the watcher=20 list is part of the NOFITY message, could it then not make sense to do = the=20 privacy filtering in domain A and determine which watchers belong to = which=20 filtered documents and pass the different watcher lists and their = related=20 presence document in function of the privacy filtering all together in = one=20 message or in different messages in function of the filtered presence=20 document.

 

2.2 = Batched=20 notification

...."The presence=20 server in domain B can then deliver the message to the watcher or create = individual NOTIFY messages for different watchers...." -> Should this = not be=20 presentities (different NOTIFY messages to the watcher in function of = the=20 presentity)?

 

2.3 = Timed=20 presence

There are=20 indeed many different end-user requirements. Mostly, all people want to = be=20 informed directly, until they have to pay in addition for that. In = practice=20 however, there is something as "directly", "as soon as possible", "as = late as=20 possible", "not after a certain moment in time", etc. Both = the Presence=20 server of the presentity and the presence server of the watcher can make = use of=20 these practices to optimize their traffic to serve the user as close as = possible=20 with their wishes. When the capacity of the servers and the = networks is=20 there, why not use this capacity to serve the end-user even=20 better?

 

2.4 = On-Demand

 

This depends how=20 often the "poll" will be made. Misbehaving watchers can seriously affect = the=20 performance of the PS.

Instead of a=20 SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY, a RSS-feed mechanism as described in=20 draft-roy-simple-presencerss-01.txt could also be used as an on-demand=20 model.

 

3.=20 Conclusions

Same comment as=20 in other drafts: ".... if we do not think about scalability with the = protocol=20 design it will not be very hard to scale." =20 -> not!

  

4. = Security=20 considerations

Yes, this is a=20 main concern. In principle, everybody is able to provide a presence = server and=20 provide this as a "free service" to many users. How can my presence = server know=20 which other worldwide available presence servers can be=20 trusted?

 

br,

Marc.

 

 

 
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An HTTP feed, i.e. a poll mechanism with the RSS or ATOM format is used between the Trackit server and the "Map & Track AS". So, basically, a mapping of the presence document with a RSS or Atom format has to be performed in the Trackit server. Is your basic idea to extend every presence server with this Web feed method? What will be included in the HTTP feed? The info from one presentity or for the group of presentities (aggregated or single)?=20 =20 6. Security considerations In the presence server, authorization and filtering of presence information is made in function of the watcher. In the indicated use case with the tracker, how will the privacy of the data be guaranteed? There is no longer a direct relation between the watcher and the presentity. The Trackit server can do an authentication for the HTTP GET request for the feed, but on which level, i.e. the Map & Track AS level or up to the users of this service (the other PUA)? Is it not possible to combine the SIP SUBSCRIBE with the RSS/Atom feed functionality? When the "Map & Track AS" make a SIP SUBSCRIBE to the Trackit presence server for every PUA requested for the map service, the presence server is able to do perform its authorization and filtering rules. But now, this function has to performed not only for one individual watcher but for a group of watchers. So, the common denominator for the information which can be revealed to the group has to be determined. Can this be a function of a NOTIFY aggregator which then also maps this info to the RSS/Atom format?=20 =20 br, Marc. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82F4C.EA129592 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi = Arjun,
 

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-roy-simple-presencerss= -01.txt

If I understand it = correctly, the=20 motivation for this draft is the provisioning of a "feed" concept in the = presence server to allow a Mash-up with other feeds by using current = state of=20 art to do this.

 

4.1 Track it=20 service

I assume in your = picture that SIP=20 is the SIP PUBLISH message containing the presence and location=20 information.

An HTTP feed, i.e. a = poll=20 mechanism with the RSS or ATOM format is used between the Trackit server = and the=20 "Map & Track AS". So, basically, a mapping of the presence document = with a=20 RSS or Atom format has to be performed in the Trackit=20 server.

Is your basic idea to = extend every=20 presence server with this Web feed method?

What will be included = in the HTTP=20 feed? The info from one presentity or for the group of presentities = (aggregated=20 or single)?

 

6. Security=20 considerations

In the presence = server,=20 authorization and filtering of presence information is made in function = of the=20 watcher. In the indicated use case with the tracker, how will the = privacy of the=20 data be guaranteed? There is no longer a direct relation between the = watcher and=20 the presentity. The Trackit server can do an authentication for the HTTP = GET=20 request for the feed, but on which level, i.e. the Map & Track AS = level or=20 up to the users of this service (the other = PUA)?

Is it not possible to = combine the=20 SIP SUBSCRIBE with the RSS/Atom feed = functionality?

When the "Map & = Track AS" make=20 a SIP SUBSCRIBE to the Trackit presence server for every PUA requested = for the=20 map service, the presence server is able to do perform its authorization = and=20 filtering rules.  But now, = this=20 function has to performed not only for one individual watcher but for a = group of=20 watchers. So, the common denominator for the information which can be = revealed=20 to the group has to be determined. Can this be a function of a NOTIFY = aggregator=20 which then also maps this info to the RSS/Atom format? =

 

br,

Marc.

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As I have continued to work on these new-age mashup environments, it seems to me that RSS Feed is only one possible format. Equally important (if not more) is also the ability to export as JSON objects (for example, Facebook accepts JSON input directly using their FBJS directives). Anyhow, the concept remains the same - export presence in a format that web-based mashups can access without the need for additional protocol parsing requirements. > > > 4.1 Track it service > > I assume in your picture that SIP is the SIP PUBLISH message containing > the presence and location information. > > An HTTP feed, i.e. a poll mechanism with the RSS or ATOM format is used > between the Trackit server and the "Map & Track AS". So, basically, a > mapping of the presence document with a RSS or Atom format has to be > performed in the Trackit server. > > Is your basic idea to extend every presence server with this Web feed > method? > Yes, it will essentially boil down to a mapping. No, my thought here is not to extend every presence server. I imagine this 'gateway' would be another entity which subscribes to a 3rd party presence server and does this conversion. So conceptually, every presence server does not need to be extended. > What will be included in the HTTP feed? The info from one presentity or > for the group of presentities (aggregated or single)? > > > I imagine both. I think that will be clear when we have a requirements document on what this feed may/may not contain. I started work on it a few months ago, need to complete it and post it for the review of this group. > 6. Security considerations > > In the presence server, authorization and filtering of presence > information is made in function of the watcher. In the indicated use case > with the tracker, how will the privacy of the data be guaranteed? There is > no longer a direct relation between the watcher and the presentity. The > Trackit server can do an authentication for the HTTP GET request for the > feed, but on which level, i.e. the Map & Track AS level or up to the users > of this service (the other PUA)? > To keep it simple, I imagine that the presence server, providing this feed(s) to the rss-presence gateway applies the required security before sending any feed to the rss-presence gateway. For example, in the example shown, I assume that mapitntrackit@hsc.com is a PUA that subscribes to the presence of 'joe', 'alice', 'bob', 'vader'. For this service to work securely, I assume that the presence server from whom the presence is obtained is aware that 'mapitntrackit' only has permissions to get notified of the status of a set of users. Therefore, all security is applied *first* at the presence server as is usually the case. Now, the second question comes - does mapitntrackit server perform authentication before the rss feed is shot out ? Yes, I assume it would do HTTP authentication. Note also, that nothing stops it from exporting only a subset as an RSS feed depending on who is the requestor. > Is it not possible to combine the SIP SUBSCRIBE with the RSS/Atom feed > functionality? > > When the "Map & Track AS" make a SIP SUBSCRIBE to the Trackit presence > server for every PUA requested for the map service, the presence server is > able to do perform its authorization and filtering rules. But now, this > function has to performed not only for one individual watcher but for a > group of watchers. So, the common denominator for the information which can > be revealed to the group has to be determined. Can this be a function of a > NOTIFY aggregator which then also maps this info to the RSS/Atom format? > Yes, as described above, that is a possibility. > > > br, > > Marc. > > _______________________________________________ > Simple mailing list > Simple@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple > > -- Arjun Roychowdhury ------=_Part_8096_15267656.1196088960798 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hi Marc, thanks for your review
Comment inline:
regds
arjun
On Nov 25, 2007 5:19 AM, Willekens, Marc (NSN - BE/Belgium - MiniMD) <marc.willekens@nsn.com> wrote:
Hi Arjun,
 

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-roy-simple-presencerss-01.txt

If I understand it correctly, the motivation for this draft is the provisioning of a "feed" concept in the presence server to allow a Mash-up with other feeds by using current state of art to do this.

 
Correct. As I have continued to work on these new-age mashup environments, it seems to me that RSS Feed is only one possible format. Equally important (if not more) is also the ability to export as JSON objects (for example, Facebook accepts JSON input directly using their FBJS directives). Anyhow, the concept remains the same - export presence in a format that web-based mashups can access without the need for additional protocol parsing requirements.
 

 

4.1 Track it service

I assume in your picture that SIP is the SIP PUBLISH message containing the presence and location information.

An HTTP feed, i.e. a poll mechanism with the RSS or ATOM format is used between the Trackit server and the "Map & Track AS". So, basically, a mapping of the presence document with a RSS or Atom format has to be performed in the Trackit server.

Is your basic idea to extend every presence server with this Web feed method?

 
Yes, it will essentially boil down to a mapping. No, my thought here is not to extend every presence server. I imagine this 'gateway' would be another entity which subscribes to a 3rd party presence server and does this conversion. So conceptually, every presence server does not need to be extended.
 

What will be included in the HTTP feed? The info from one presentity or for the group of presentities (aggregated or single)?

 

 
I imagine both. I think that will be clear when we have a requirements document on what this feed may/may not contain. I started work on it a few months ago, need to complete it and post it for the review of this group.
 

6. Security considerations

In the presence server, authorization and filtering of presence information is made in function of the watcher. In the indicated use case with the tracker, how will the privacy of the data be guaranteed? There is no longer a direct relation between the watcher and the presentity. The Trackit server can do an authentication for the HTTP GET request for the feed, but on which level, i.e. the Map & Track AS level or up to the users of this service (the other PUA)?

 
To keep it simple, I imagine that the presence server, providing this feed(s) to the rss-presence gateway applies the required security before sending any feed to the rss-presence gateway. For example, in the example shown, I assume that mapitntrackit@hsc.com is a PUA that subscribes to the presence of 'joe', 'alice', 'bob', 'vader'. For this service to work securely, I assume that the presence server from whom the presence is obtained is aware that 'mapitntrackit' only has permissions to get notified of the status of a set of users. Therefore, all security is applied *first* at the presence server as is usually the case.
Now, the second question comes - does mapitntrackit server perform authentication before the rss feed is shot out ? Yes, I assume it would do HTTP authentication. Note also, that nothing stops it from exporting only a subset as an RSS feed depending on who is the requestor.
 
 

Is it not possible to combine the SIP SUBSCRIBE with the RSS/Atom feed functionality?

When the "Map & Track AS" make a SIP SUBSCRIBE to the Trackit presence server for every PUA requested for the map service, the presence server is able to do perform its authorization and filtering rules.  But now, this function has to performed not only for one individual watcher but for a group of watchers. So, the common denominator for the information which can be revealed to the group has to be determined. Can this be a function of a NOTIFY aggregator which then also maps this info to the RSS/Atom format?

 
Yes, as described above, that is a possibility.

 

br,

Marc.


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As we know it is not easy to scale presence.

Since presence RFCs and drafts were created after RFC 3261 that mandates both
UDP and TCP support (opposed to 2543 that mandated only UDP), can we say that
most if not all presence client will use TCP?

If we could deprecate UDP for presence then we can think about several traffic
optimizations where the overhead is due to the UDP support of SIP?

Comments?

--Avshalom --=_alternative 003EF858C22573A1_=-- --===============1536660630== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============1536660630==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 28 08:57:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxNQJ-0008F9-7K; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:57:55 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IxNQH-0008Et-FL for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:57:53 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxNQH-0008Ei-5U for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:57:53 -0500 Received: from ihemail3.lucent.com ([135.245.0.37]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxNQG-0003Va-LG for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:57:53 -0500 Received: from ilexp03.ndc.lucent.com (h135-3-39-50.lucent.com [135.3.39.50]) by ihemail3.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id lASDvVDb001759; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:57:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from DEEXP01.de.lucent.com ([135.248.187.65]) by ilexp03.ndc.lucent.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:57:42 -0600 Received: from DEEXC1U01.de.lucent.com ([135.248.187.28]) by DEEXP01.de.lucent.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:57:40 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [Simple] Can we deprecate UDP for presence? Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:57:34 +0100 Message-ID: <5D1A7985295922448D5550C94DE2918001975300@DEEXC1U01.de.lucent.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Simple] Can we deprecate UDP for presence? Thread-Index: AcgxseDkEfP4HuPNQfuHZ41d6BgV7AAFHxdQ References: From: "DRAGE, Keith \(Keith\)" To: "Avshalom Houri" , "simple mailing list" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2007 13:57:40.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3FBC150:01C831C6] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.37 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1676547e4f33b5e63227e9c02bd359e3 Cc: X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1045071384==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1045071384== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C831C6.A079EAC2" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C831C6.A079EAC2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are you suggesting that a sender has to look at the event header in a SIP message before deciding which transport protocol to use, and decide whether it is presence related. =20 This is an updates RFC 3261 issue, i.e. not for SIMPLE to write the RFC, merely to determine if there are requirements in this area and pass them to SIP. =20 regards =20 Keith ________________________________ From: Avshalom Houri [mailto:AVSHALOM@il.ibm.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:28 AM To: simple mailing list Subject: [Simple] Can we deprecate UDP for presence? =09 =09 As we know it is not easy to scale presence.=20 =09 Since presence RFCs and drafts were created after RFC 3261 that mandates both=20 UDP and TCP support (opposed to 2543 that mandated only UDP), can we say that=20 most if not all presence client will use TCP?=20 =09 If we could deprecate UDP for presence then we can think about several traffic=20 optimizations where the overhead is due to the UDP support of SIP?=20 =09 Comments?=20 =09 --Avshalom ------_=_NextPart_001_01C831C6.A079EAC2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are you suggesting that a sender has to look at = the event=20 header in a SIP message before deciding which transport protocol to use, = and=20 decide whether it is presence related.
 
This is an updates RFC 3261 issue, i.e. not for = SIMPLE to=20 write the RFC, merely to determine if there are requirements in this = area and=20 pass them to SIP.
 
regards
 
Keith

From: Avshalom Houri=20 [mailto:AVSHALOM@il.ibm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, = 2007=20 11:28 AM
To: simple mailing list
Subject: [Simple] = Can we=20 deprecate UDP for presence?


As we know it is = not easy to=20 scale presence.

Since presence=20 RFCs and drafts were created after RFC 3261 that mandates both=20
UDP and TCP support = (opposed to=20 2543 that mandated only UDP), can we say that
most if not all presence client will use = TCP?=20

If we could deprecate UDP = for presence=20 then we can think about several traffic
optimizations where the overhead is due to the UDP support of = SIP?

Comments?=20

--Avshalom ------_=_NextPart_001_01C831C6.A079EAC2-- --===============1045071384== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============1045071384==-- From simple-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 28 10:11:51 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxOZo-0005GL-Vf; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:11:48 -0500 Received: from simple by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IxOZo-0005Fy-7G for simple-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:11:48 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxOZn-0005FN-S3 for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:11:47 -0500 Received: from mtagate8.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.157]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxOZm-0005qQ-5N for simple@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:11:46 -0500 Received: from d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.49]) by mtagate8.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lASFBh9H312056 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:11:43 GMT Received: from d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.228]) by d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v8.7) with ESMTP id lASFBh1K1126538 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:11:43 +0100 Received: from d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lASFBhD8031950 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:11:43 +0100 Received: from d12mc102.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12mc102.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.114]) by d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lASFBgrq031937 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:11:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <5D1A7985295922448D5550C94DE2918001975300@DEEXC1U01.de.lucent.com> References: <5D1A7985295922448D5550C94DE2918001975300@DEEXC1U01.de.lucent.com> To: "DRAGE, Keith \(Keith\)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [Simple] Can we deprecate UDP for presence? X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0NP August 02, 2007 From: Avshalom Houri Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:11:42 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D12MC102/12/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2HF71 | November 3, 2006) at 28/11/2007 17:11:42, Serialize complete at 28/11/2007 17:11:42 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 225414c974e0d6437992164e91287a51 Cc: simple mailing list X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0541401719==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0541401719== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00537989C22573A1_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00537989C22573A1_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Something in this direction and at the receiver side it will be possible to reject presence messages on UDP. I agree that we will need to start with requirements in SIPPING and my intention was to gauge if it will be an issue or TCP is implemented by default for presence. Thanks --Avshalom "DRAGE, Keith \(Keith\)" 28/11/2007 15:57 To Avshalom Houri/Haifa/IBM@IBMIL, "simple mailing list" cc Subject RE: [Simple] Can we deprecate UDP for presence? Are you suggesting that a sender has to look at the event header in a SIP message before deciding which transport protocol to use, and decide whether it is presence related. This is an updates RFC 3261 issue, i.e. not for SIMPLE to write the RFC, merely to determine if there are requirements in this area and pass them to SIP. regards Keith From: Avshalom Houri [mailto:AVSHALOM@il.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:28 AM To: simple mailing list Subject: [Simple] Can we deprecate UDP for presence? As we know it is not easy to scale presence. Since presence RFCs and drafts were created after RFC 3261 that mandates both UDP and TCP support (opposed to 2543 that mandated only UDP), can we say that most if not all presence client will use TCP? If we could deprecate UDP for presence then we can think about several traffic optimizations where the overhead is due to the UDP support of SIP? Comments? --Avshalom --=_alternative 00537989C22573A1_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Something in this direction and at the receiver side it will be possible to
reject presence messages on UDP.

I agree that we will need to start with requirements in SIPPING and my intention
was to gauge if it will be an issue or TCP is implemented by default for
presence.

Thanks
--Avshalom


"DRAGE, Keith \(Keith\)" <drage@alcatel-lucent.com>

28/11/2007 15:57

To
Avshalom Houri/Haifa/IBM@IBMIL, "simple mailing list" <simple@ietf.org>
cc
Subject
RE: [Simple] Can we deprecate UDP for presence?





Are you suggesting that a sender has to look at the event header in a SIP message before deciding which transport protocol to use, and decide whether it is presence related.
 
This is an updates RFC 3261 issue, i.e. not for SIMPLE to write the RFC, merely to determine if there are requirements in this area and pass them to SIP.
 
regards
 
Keith

From: Avshalom Houri [mailto:AVSHALOM@il.ibm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:28 AM
To: simple mailing list
Subject: [Simple] Can we deprecate UDP for presence?

As we know it is not easy to scale presence.

Since presence RFCs and drafts were created after RFC 3261 that mandates both
UDP and TCP support (opposed to 2543 that mandated only UDP), can we say that
most if not all presence client will use TCP?

If we could deprecate UDP for presence then we can think about several traffic
optimizations where the overhead is due to the UDP support of SIP?

Comments?

--Avshalom
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Hi= all,

Could= someone please tell me what the differential purpose between 3GPP TS= 24.228 and TS 24.229 is? Which specification should be followed by which= role of IMS-related developer, e.g. for IMS Core developer, for IMS= Application developer, for IMS Client developer?

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:25:11 -0500 Message-ID: <61968779B8AC4C4BAB421D4C12F008C00D7725FE@XCH47YKF.rim.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [simple] [Sip-implementors] what is the differential purpose definedbetween 3GPP TS 24.228 and TS 24.229? Thread-Index: Aceg2IRLqQiP+EOWR9uBShsYpY9ynySFKOmAAACsijA= From: "Andrew Allen" To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2007 01:25:12.0473 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA843890:01C832EF] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAABQfnUocH513OB+dlAQfniCgH54gu X-Spam-Score: 1.9 (+) X-Scan-Signature: 3e15cc4fdc61d7bce84032741d11c8e5 Cc: X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org TS 24.228 is example call flows only. TS 24.229 is the normative specificati= on that specifies the actual implementation. 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Both are not IETF = specifications.
 
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From: Jeffrey = [mailto:hocs@itri.org.tw]=20
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Hi = all,

Could = someone please=20 tell me what the differential purpose between 3GPP TS 24.228 and TS = 24.229 is?=20 Which specification should be followed by which role of IMS-related = developer,=20 e.g. for IMS Core developer, for IMS Application developer, for IMS = Client=20 developer?

Thanks a = lot.=20

BR,
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