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Should we progress this = draft to IESG?

Brian

On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:00 AM, = Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have merged the PR based on Martin=E2=80=99s comments, = and submitted a new version (-13) of SIP Push.

The biggest change is the addition of the possibility to = perform a registration and query the network push capabilities, without = actually triggering push notifications. This allows a UA to e.g., = retrieve the VAPID information before registering to the PNS.

Regards,

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Am I missing something? I don't want to review an old draft. On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 11:33 PM Brian Rosen wrote: > Are everyone=E2=80=99s issues resolved? > Should we progress this draft to IESG? > Brian > On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Christer Holmberg < christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > Hi, > I have merged the PR based on Martin=E2=80=99s comments, and submitted a = new version (-13) of SIP Push. > The biggest change is the addition of the possibility to perform a registration and query the network push capabilities, without actually triggering push notifications. This allows a UA to e.g., retrieve the VAPID information before registering to the PNS. > Regards, > Christer > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore From nobody Sun May 6 19:07:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F83712D885 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 19:07:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.685 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.685 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6mt_I2r-Zhmd for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 19:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 450B0120047 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 19:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-15v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.111]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id FVUEf7H2NbgLWFVYRfHlJW; Mon, 07 May 2018 02:07:07 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-15v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id FVYQfMVXkmLqvFVYRf3wdq; Mon, 07 May 2018 02:07:07 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w47276WU011862; Sun, 6 May 2018 22:07:06 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w472759d011859; Sun, 6 May 2018 22:07:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: Brian Rosen Cc: sipcore@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 22:07:05 -0400 Message-ID: <87muxcz0ae.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfCUZi25DX1B1MInZHHY5Sj6MNqGJI09IouCK8+rrGVAOeT/xXmcVtP/LVMdsHIkmlPSEOtCqzwiVpkzSxsxH+cIjus3VSNTNRcc4jKXMq4JHvb82zfaY jlt37rAqLn6A5dIjrT8nAUA/11kIOyRxBMx6nKkx1/GPMADONU218THXLvGiD0DXxSJadQLmlg6Dyhvf2E5tsehIMIh7SybiWQcJG6MHlxrOJ85oKtsaRLLt Pk4BOU9pzeXzOQDm02oXB8wMr8+3NhQdhK+CtAcTxPA= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new version: sip-push-13 X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 02:07:09 -0000 Brian Rosen writes: > Are everyone's issues resolved? > > Should we progress this draft to IESG? I'm behind on the sip-push worki, and I probably would prefer some changes. But my concerns have certainly been considered enough by the authors. Let it progress, whatever my opinions ... 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Sorry for the confusion. Regards, Christer Sent from my iPhone On 7 May 2018, at 4.15, Martin Thomson > wrote: Datatracker only shows -11. Am I missing something? I don't want to review an old draft. On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 11:33 PM Brian Rosen > wrote: Are everyone=92s issues resolved? Should we progress this draft to IESG? Brian On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Christer Holmberg < christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrot= e: Hi, I have merged the PR based on Martin=92s comments, and submitted a new version (-13) of SIP Push. The biggest change is the addition of the possibility to perform a registration and query the network push capabilities, without actually triggering push notifications. This allows a UA to e.g., retrieve the VAPID information before registering to the PNS. Regards, Christer _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore --_000_861F5C513F834F59BBB9C4C30BCEF59Cericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,
 
Version -11, that was submitted about a month ago, is the latest versi= on.

Sorry for the confusion.

Regards,

Christer 

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On 7 May 2018, at 4.15, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:

Datatracker only shows -11.  Am I missing something? I don'= t want to review
an old draft.
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 11:33 PM Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> wrote:

Are everyone=92s issues resolved?

Should we progress this draft to IESG?

Brian

On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Christer Holmb= erg <
christer.holmberg@e= ricsson.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have merged the PR based on Martin=92s co= mments, and submitted a new
version (-13) of SIP Push.

The biggest change is the addition of the p= ossibility to perform a
registration and query the network push capabilities, without actuall= y
triggering push notifications. This allows a UA to e.g., retrieve the= VAPID
information before registering to the PNS.

Regards,

Christer
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I know you are a busy man, b= ut most changes were based on your comments, and I=92d really like to move = the document forward :) Thanks! Regards, Christer From: sipcore > o= n behalf of Christer Holmberg > Date: Monday 7 May 2018 at 07:45 To: Martin Thomson > Cc: "sipcore@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new version: sip-push-13 Hi, Version -11, that was submitted about a month ago, is the latest version. Sorry for the confusion. Regards, Christer Sent from my iPhone On 7 May 2018, at 4.15, Martin Thomson > wrote: Datatracker only shows -11. Am I missing something? I don't want to review an old draft. On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 11:33 PM Brian Rosen > wrote: Are everyone=92s issues resolved? Should we progress this draft to IESG? Brian On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Christer Holmberg < christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrot= e: Hi, I have merged the PR based on Martin=92s comments, and submitted a new version (-13) of SIP Push. The biggest change is the addition of the possibility to perform a registration and query the network push capabilities, without actually triggering push notifications. This allows a UA to e.g., retrieve the VAPID information before registering to the PNS. Regards, Christer _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www..ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore --_000_D72081E02FA7Echristerholmbergericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Martin,

Have you had time to check the latest version? I know you are a busy m= an, but most changes were based on your comments, and I=92d really like to = move the document forward :)

Thanks!

Regards,

Christer

From: sipcore <sipcore-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Ch= rister Holmberg <chris= ter.holmberg@ericsson.com>
Date: Monday 7 May 2018 at 07:45 To: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Cc: "sipcore@ietf.org" <sipcore@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new ve= rsion: sip-push-13

Hi,
 
Version -11, that was submitted about a month ago, is the latest versi= on.

Sorry for the confusion.

Regards,

Christer 

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 May 2018, at 4.15, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:

Datatracker only shows -11.  Am I missing something? I don'= t want to review
an old draft.
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 11:33 PM Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> wrote:

Are everyone=92s issues resolved?

Should we progress this draft to IESG?

Brian

On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Christer Holmb= erg <
christer.holmberg@e= ricsson.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have merged the PR based on Martin=92s co= mments, and submitted a new
version (-13) of SIP Push.

The biggest change is the addition of the p= ossibility to perform a
registration and query the network push capabilities, without actuall= y
triggering push notifications. This allows a UA to e.g., retrieve the= VAPID
information before registering to the PNS.

Regards,

Christer
___________________________________________= ____
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sipcore= @ietf.org
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sipcore mailing list
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I'm still not getting any clarity from the doc about the relationship between reachability of the UA (as determined by NAT binding timers, for instance), and the lifetime of the registration. All this takes is saying that the registration might last longer than NAT bindings and that push can be used to ensure reachability for the entire duration of the registration. sip.pnsreg overloads two concepts: The first (the one I think that is important to signal) is that is signals that a UA can maintain its subscriptions. However, I would question the choice of not making this the default - given that this is the assumption in SIP. A signal to the proxy/registrar that a push is needed to ensure that registrations can be refreshed before expiration would be much closer to existing SIP semantics (as I understand them). The second is maintaining the timing for refreshing subscriptions. This is questionable. Isn't there already a way of a proxy/registrar signaling its knowledge of NAT binding timers? The odd part is that this is relative to the end of the subscription, requiring calculations from both parties. If the intent is to ensure that NAT bindings don't time out, I think that you want a separate parameter that indicates how often the registration needs to be refreshed - if there isn't one already. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:01 PM Christer Holmberg < christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > Hi, > I have merged the PR based on Martin=E2=80=99s comments, and submitted a = new version (-13) of SIP Push. > The biggest change is the addition of the possibility to perform a registration and query the network push capabilities, without actually triggering push notifications. This allows a UA to e.g., retrieve the VAPID information before registering to the PNS. > Regards, > Christer > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore From nobody Wed May 16 00:16:45 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F531200C1 for ; Wed, 16 May 2018 00:16:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.411 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.411 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ericsson.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nxczhAiFyV0G for ; Wed, 16 May 2018 00:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sessmg23.ericsson.net (sessmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EE32127AD4 for ; Wed, 16 May 2018 00:16:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=ericsson.com; s=mailgw201801; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@ericsson.com; t=1526454999; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:CC:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=9fPD16mlIiO9bBC0KSPDPWpLQ8re5sH1aKxWiF5lDA0=; b=WnbAqxTcEdFAFwsT/mdj6zB5Rh5X06dhsczmUuXmi8hMaa7Ok1baAhXwDEo/4Swz QROT9ICQKLgWNt2fFEEDWJFahsHsuv7UHntTVMewHOUSl6C2TTBK2pWrlrzU9bin s+RBO1b4cK7IMkAmoRAdaZVtHoExKPoHVBP4IBbWMgg=; X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-a6b079c00000050d-a8-5afbdad73f8a Received: from ESESSHC014.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.60]) by sessmg23.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id F8.99.01293.7DADBFA5; Wed, 16 May 2018 09:16:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB109.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.29]) by ESESSHC014.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.60]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Wed, 16 May 2018 09:16:36 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Martin Thomson CC: SIPCORE , "sipcore-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [sipcore] Draft new version: sip-push-13 Thread-Index: AQHT0ZUebqw9NffvP0uySpMUTA5bkqQxp7yAgACSbQA= Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 07:16:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.7.7.170905 x-originating-ip: [131.160.50.130] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <61BFC590128DC74CAF50914325695082@ericsson.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprPIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7je71W7+jDE7/1LC4duYfo0Xv54XM Fl9/bGJzYPbYOesuu8eSJT+ZApiiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDIWbPvHXDBRtGLi++ksDYx/BboY OTgkBEwk3v4R7GLk4hASOMIoMfPjTBYIZzGjxIUtt9lBitgELCS6/2l3MXJyiAjoSiw6+4Ad xGYWCJV4vP4KM0iJsICpxIfVUCVmEic/PWGDsK0k5vRcBythEVCVODdJCCTMK2At0dn3GqxE SKCJUeLNJysQm1MgUOLx291g0xkFxCS+n1rDBLFJXOLWk/lgtoSAgMSSPeeZIWxRiZeP/7GC 2KICehIbTkAcLCGgJHF7gxNEq57EjalT2EDCzEBrz24thwhrSyxb+JoZ4hpBiZMzn7BMYBSf hWTZLCTdsxC6ZyHpnoWkewEj6ypG0eLU4uLcdCNjvdSizOTi4vw8vbzUkk2MwGg7uOW37g7G 1a8dDzEKcDAq8fCmHP4dJcSaWFZcmXuIUYKDWUmEN5MXKMSbklhZlVqUH19UmpNafIhRmoNF SZxXb9WeKCGB9MSS1OzU1ILUIpgsEwenVANjdLnms56KuNwZTe0f+3/sfDiHKd9peazN8dvH ry5ecE/z4d0nH+R3/HLSNY9JsD+oFHP3kb/X31kSwg61Btx3ZxwIDv3E67RlgyT3xJqrHB9i Gt6t3nf1gclvx9OHdmaqTZzSkXVBlYk9QLVsoe4PZ85Gjq3iLjrSX69ba8//Xc07vZZ/h8MN JZbijERDLeai4kQAVMaGlbICAAA= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new version: sip-push-13 X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 07:16:44 -0000 Hi, >I took another look. > >I'm still not getting any clarity from the doc about the relationship >between reachability of the UA (as determined by NAT binding timers, for >instance), and the lifetime of the registration. All this takes is saying >that the registration might last longer than NAT bindings and that push >can >be used to ensure reachability for the entire duration of the >registration. Not sure I follow. Do you want to use push as a way to trigger NAT keep-alives while the UA is active? While the UA is active, there are other mechanisms no negotiate keep-alives. >sip.pnsreg overloads two concepts: > >The first (the one I think that is important to signal) is that is signals >that a UA can maintain its subscriptions. However, I would question the >choice of not making this the default - given that this is the assumption >in SIP. A signal to the proxy/registrar that a push is needed to ensure >that registrations can be refreshed before expiration would be much closer >to existing SIP semantics (as I understand them). I would prefer the be default to be that the UA informs that it isn=B9t abl= e to do anything without push notifications, and then signal exceptions. >The second is maintaining the timing for refreshing subscriptions. This >is >questionable. Isn't there already a way of a proxy/registrar signaling >its >knowledge of NAT binding timers? The odd part is that this is relative to >the end of the subscription, requiring calculations from both parties. If >the intent is to ensure that NAT bindings don't time out, I think that you >want a separate parameter that indicates how often the registration needs >to be refreshed - if there isn't one already. The SIP REGISTER request/response contains a parameter that indicates when the registration expires. The purpose of sip.pnsreq is to indicate how long, prior the expiration, the UA will have to send the re-registratation request. Regards, Christer >On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:01 PM Christer Holmberg < >christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I have merged the PR based on Martin=B9s comments, and submitted a new >version (-13) of SIP Push. > >> The biggest change is the addition of the possibility to perform a >registration and query the network push capabilities, without actually >triggering push notifications. This allows a UA to e.g., retrieve the >VAPID >information before registering to the PNS. > >> Regards, > >> Christer >> _______________________________________________ >> sipcore mailing list >> sipcore@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore From nobody Wed May 16 15:27:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9761112E03D; Wed, 16 May 2018 15:27:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OraC5-leSBuf; Wed, 16 May 2018 15:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot0-x231.google.com (mail-ot0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9813212E04F; Wed, 16 May 2018 15:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot0-x231.google.com with SMTP id l22-v6so2843458otj.0; Wed, 16 May 2018 15:27:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5xYomIRVFomkAUR6uo17H0QYccmJXP+VbCQPau/qNYA=; b=Zha22wgoxUNm8lkbE9j8QxTQ0+eJ2+ale8CoBtSbh6mNRBnh/6fbopU2FuOZVB9d/U zJZW6RbA5iyraHaVGszE89UZaPWaOlqJN7fMS3m+lhTQfV697oU3Mp9z4QgK4rQVuvHz gZ2oWTjoRabvW6L2zhmnXMjaNYNUPkd77SOn2jl1sHqrxCg7F8DPfdSxMkPtgNtyzHnh RiadEuNYJWkhzlEI0fXVCqNdChZphVjrx9LamWiuvaxyV07k4yY2kPnmHFiINJ7BeiCO 7YU5WYHFgMt1w9OJILMSku21tARYuB0HJBPpryw3cKbo7cLkxNj5QPlAxYS9gorEddy3 jauw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5xYomIRVFomkAUR6uo17H0QYccmJXP+VbCQPau/qNYA=; b=HTfaXpuJ42zaA6k249q3GmqlnMH4maLf3S9RLErIMtvPfrbRz2wPGDnDj2F6jRXEJ/ 9hB/NdIAG3yHn+q41bj++fJZQH2Rh94OVs17vuMacSHYPDVyp9klx2UQMVs4lMPOsF0U +37DBZhBVFSW5DCgDTgrbBXAuFFTwZv3kD6q241y5SLxkvTah6nxB9HboslNYjYHinsy kbXqyVxGsNphmWUPCSu/wi1C+GeS4fEvcCIIPb5SAbTNoFZJutOSc3lxVdE4Jrl7C5AY CVKH/co9byk2LeVBfd5CLuEsNQ1UHBgBlENIzwYshMTbE27oc5oOtn5yEua4RwbxT2BA 6jfw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwcc84jn1tDj7wJoTt6cJUs/sVZxTKgdjKpW/MR6RH48hiQ6fwKX rE71VCfRzk8shi7+2hc9RWoGotwwseYF6gIq+4A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpc3DMKdqGaFma7Hofg+N8HDVPulM+LgqhNoR+SG/7YCUQJV5B1aOnkaJmNibWKcg5J/Nh0aTeAkomWeCJO2Yg= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:72c6:: with SMTP id d6-v6mr2036858otk.392.1526509666963; Wed, 16 May 2018 15:27:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Martin Thomson Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 08:27:38 +1000 Message-ID: To: Christer Holmberg Cc: SIPCORE , sipcore-chairs@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new version: sip-push-13 X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 22:27:56 -0000 On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:16 PM Christer Holmberg < christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > Hi, > >I took another look. > > > >I'm still not getting any clarity from the doc about the relationship > >between reachability of the UA (as determined by NAT binding timers, for > >instance), and the lifetime of the registration. All this takes is saying > >that the registration might last longer than NAT bindings and that push > >can > >be used to ensure reachability for the entire duration of the > >registration. > Not sure I follow. Do you want to use push as a way to trigger NAT > keep-alives while the UA is active? I'm looking for the document to be clearer. > >sip.pnsreg overloads two concepts: > > > >The first (the one I think that is important to signal) is that is signals > >that a UA can maintain its subscriptions. However, I would question the > >choice of not making this the default - given that this is the assumptio= n > >in SIP. A signal to the proxy/registrar that a push is needed to ensure > >that registrations can be refreshed before expiration would be much closer > >to existing SIP semantics (as I understand them). > I would prefer the be default to be that the UA informs that it isn=C2=B9= t able > to do anything without push notifications, and then signal exceptions. The primary mechanism in this document is an augmentation of UA contact details. If you think of it that way, the lack of reachability is the exceptional condition. > >The second is maintaining the timing for refreshing subscriptions. This > >is > >questionable. Isn't there already a way of a proxy/registrar signaling > >its > >knowledge of NAT binding timers? The odd part is that this is relative to > >the end of the subscription, requiring calculations from both parties. If > >the intent is to ensure that NAT bindings don't time out, I think that you > >want a separate parameter that indicates how often the registration need= s > >to be refreshed - if there isn't one already. > The SIP REGISTER request/response contains a parameter that indicates whe= n > the registration expires. > The purpose of sip.pnsreq is to indicate how long, prior the expiration, > the UA will have to send the re-registratation request. I understand that this is how you have defined it. I just don't think that it makes a lot of sense when framed that way. 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SMTP id u67-v6mr10887441oie.272.1526861621046; Sun, 20 May 2018 17:13:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B72EF43F6@ESESSMB109.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B72EF43F6@ESESSMB109.ericsson.se> From: Martin Thomson Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 10:13:31 +1000 Message-ID: To: Christer Holmberg Cc: SIPCORE , sipcore-chairs@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new version: sip-push-13 X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 00:13:43 -0000 On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 4:35 PM Christer Holmberg < christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > I suggest to remove the second paragraph, talking about maintaining connections with keep-alives. Will that make things more clear? Maybe I should state this differently. You have an ample problem statement, but what you don't have is a *solution* statement. That is, an explanation of the model you are using to address that problem. > >> The primary mechanism in this document is an augmentation of UA contact details. > >> If you think of it that way, the lack of reachability is the exceptional condition. > The primary mechanism is to wake up suspended UAs, in order to maintain registrations and provide reachability. That was the original use-case that triggered the whole document. > The possibility to indicate that a UA is able to maintain registrations, but still want to receive push notifications for incoming calls, was added later. How the document got to where it is doesn't matter so much as where it is now. > The purpose is that, if the UA has indicated that it is able to maintain the registration, but for whatever reason does not send a re-registration, the proxy can still trigger a push notification prior to registration expiration. Yes, that is clear. > Do you want to remove that feature, and assume that UAs that have indicated that they are able to maintain the registration will actually do it (and, if they don't, the registration will expire)? I'm suggesting that - when framed as a mechanism to ensure continuous reachability, it is better to make the time relative to the time of registration rather than relative to the end of registration. 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draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-02.txt X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 10:57:50 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Session Initiation Protocol Core WG of the IETF. Title : A P-Served-User Header Field Parameter for Originating CDIV session case in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Author : Marianne Mohali Filename : draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-02.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2018-05-22 Abstract: The P-Served-User header field RFC5502 is used to convey the identity of the served user and the session case that applies to this particular communication session and application invocation. This document updated RFC5502 by defining a new P-Served-User header field parameter, "orig-cdiv". The parameter conveys the session case used by a proxy when handling an originating session after Call Diversion (CDIV) services has been invoked for the served user. This document also fixes the ABNF in RFC5502 and provides more guidance for using the P-Served-User header field in IP networks. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue May 22 04:08:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CFA12EAE2; Tue, 22 May 2018 04:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ltjgkljx89Nd; Tue, 22 May 2018 04:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orange.com (mta241.mail.business.static.orange.com [80.12.66.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 235C6126CD8; Tue, 22 May 2018 04:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opfedar06.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.8]) by opfedar26.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id E6B431C023F; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:07:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Exchangemail-eme2.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.31.21]) by opfedar06.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id C93FE80068; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:07:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::65de:2f08:41e6:ebbe]) by OPEXCLILM6C.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::d9f5:9741:7525:a199%18]) with mapi id 14.03.0389.001; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:07:49 +0200 From: To: "sipcore@ietf.org" , "sipcore-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft new version draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter (-02) Thread-Index: AdPxvOj9+JYYT/SAQD2SK5AIQYt5Ow== Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 11:07:48 +0000 Message-ID: <30221_1526987269_5B03FA05_30221_305_1_8B970F90C584EA4E97D5BAAC9172DBB849CEDD89@OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [sipcore] draft new version draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter (-02) X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 11:07:59 -0000 Hi folks, I have submitted a new version of this draft (-02) including comments from = Dale, Christer and Paul. 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[156.154.81.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b52-v6sm13976435qta.58.2018.05.22.13.16.09 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 22 May 2018 13:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Rosen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Message-Id: <1BEE5C4C-4196-4A8B-B445-72684C6C1830@brianrosen.net> Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 16:16:08 -0400 To: SIPCORE X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: [sipcore] Do we need a slot in Montreal X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 20:16:14 -0000 Anyone want some time in Montreal to discuss a draft? Brian and Jean From nobody Thu May 31 06:47:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6032512D96B for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 06:47:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.879 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.879 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V0LWVseXd8h3 for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 06:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D45F12EBEC for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 06:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mutabilis-2.local ([47.186.17.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w4VDkhsS034451 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 08:46:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mahoney@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.17.148] claimed to be mutabilis-2.local To: sipcore@ietf.org References: <1BEE5C4C-4196-4A8B-B445-72684C6C1830@brianrosen.net> From: "A. Jean Mahoney" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 08:46:42 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1BEE5C4C-4196-4A8B-B445-72684C6C1830@brianrosen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Do we need a slot in Montreal X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 13:47:03 -0000 The deadline for scheduling WG sessions is this Friday. Please let us know as soon as possible if you want a timeslot to discuss a draft. Thanks! Jean and Brian On 5/22/18 3:16 PM, Brian Rosen wrote: > Anyone want some time in Montreal to discuss a draft? > > Brian and Jean > > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore >