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boundary="Apple-Mail=_F6CF83D0-D484-4D85-B0D0-405DF53D336D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 12:50:22 -0600 In-Reply-To: <35001240-543C-4DEE-98B2-276366506E98@ericsson.com> Cc: "draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push.all@ietf.org" , "sipcore@ietf.org" To: Christer Holmberg References: <35001240-543C-4DEE-98B2-276366506E98@ericsson.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-20 - Ben's technical comments - long-lived dialog support issue X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 18:50:34 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F6CF83D0-D484-4D85-B0D0-405DF53D336D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Dec 1, 2018, at 11:01 AM, Christer Holmberg = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > ... >=20 >> That tells me it really intended as an optional feature, in which = case I=E2=80=99m fine leaving it as is. >=20 > Ok, so I won't modify/add any text. >=20 > But, you still want the RFC 3891 reference to be normative, right? Yes. Thanks! Ben. --Apple-Mail=_F6CF83D0-D484-4D85-B0D0-405DF53D336D Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEExW9rpd7ez4DexOFOgFZKbJXz1A0FAlwC1+4ACgkQgFZKbJXz 1A1VTw/+N65/8RBIABGax1jywA5BPYYOjsgN7A+DuZGqUuK/PK1jZezfu3Iubr61 ZKk3KOgMRqKVy+yQnRDBYnCl2ogya/S7XkLeJzh3x+iL3YmnmvXWcDlzf2H0QiL5 kTfVMe8nayvPa4DV7VdvbEOKRA7yzaeqgyWfv1WIHDbBy8h6hOschGsc609J14MP 1Ps5NCCMHtnR3mtvaXe+/t59m2kcwg5sDX2XMyPTiKRuNqjGYFdHZPGPcHMut9Rn lDE/oPAamd73uyAAXUUaP5bwVOAjqj9fOv7iA27t6/tJ0KtJFI6DKZZbaqfkVUjn nIeWIjHCIGL4mOChmq2XxZwmWIdhzvUKIMQXnMUeTu/A5+mDGogaFRP4/Sh8yTbe EqtUPj6Gk3ez9EUspyqV1QmgLKdvxbguBl6X2MyTcMDTJAQptB5u8W9DnZHOBqMH 7DlUEKnTCYDHAVOjm6pjY2Yq1LYyLZV/trH/8/DEs/c1+HVpcJ6wB0W3zLuuko7b 1XUL4yV7fDwLBpbih3v7iUDwLcBtaMtl+c8JG9IOoDjmxNg6BQYsr72SZWlVsQTd WmgafgF4nLifr91KpxUA5WZtMYWg3+duLmq8uxj92/26GWcHDdOQWyCiw8JRwTKA BP6kBpTHNHhbIv02CHw+DAmOwKW7pqkcA515qcsvomqf/2m0Qzo= =upxb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_F6CF83D0-D484-4D85-B0D0-405DF53D336D-- From nobody Sat Dec 1 10:51:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C0F130E11; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 10:51:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.88 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.88 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gMnc_rbLg_8X; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 10:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEE82130DFF; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 10:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.24] (cpe-70-122-203-106.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.203.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id wB1IoN1e011883 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Dec 2018 12:51:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-122-203-106.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.203.106] claimed to be [10.0.1.24] From: Ben Campbell Message-Id: <24607F65-80B6-46FE-A237-E1293B3426EE@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E5804C6E-4043-41AD-B3A7-54E7A7973F1D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 12:51:06 -0600 In-Reply-To: Cc: "draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push.all@ietf.org" , "sipcore@ietf.org" To: Christer Holmberg References: <20977563-0911-4C87-B44D-5BC263A3CAED@ericsson.com> <94D00448-A8A0-4CF7-9210-A5982F51014A@nostrum.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-20 - Ben's editorial comments X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 18:51:12 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E5804C6E-4043-41AD-B3A7-54E7A7973F1D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Dec 1, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Christer Holmberg = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 >>>> - 5th paragraph: >>>> -- "... proxy that is not between the push proxy and the UA...". = Doesn't this really mean a proxy that is between the push >>>> proxy and the registrar? If so, saying where the proxy _is_ would = be clearer than saying where it is _not_. >>>=20 >>> I used to have upstream/downstream terminology here, but was asked = to change it (since people confuse what is upstream >>> and what is downstream). The text talks about the push proxy knowing = that there is another push proxy (between itself and >>> the registrar) that will be able to handle the PNS. >>=20 >> Right, but wouldn=E2=80=99t =E2=80=9Cbetween the proxy and the = registrar=E2=80=9D be clearer than =E2=80=9Cnot between the proxy and = the UA=E2=80=9D? >=20 > The "not" is a spelling error. The proxy can forward the request if it = knows that there IS another proxy that supports the PNS. >=20 > What about: >=20 > "(e.g., if the proxy knows that another proxy that will receive the = REGISTER request supports the type of PNS)=E2=80=9D WFM. Thanks! Ben. --Apple-Mail=_E5804C6E-4043-41AD-B3A7-54E7A7973F1D Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIyBAEBCgAdFiEExW9rpd7ez4DexOFOgFZKbJXz1A0FAlwC2BsACgkQgFZKbJXz 1A1JYw/1GWMa1jzCbWpCpzi9IuNs3F04EJRIbmiElXEeAyAgU1uWY09dAKS8SA49 TWf7zAaeYWdLf3n763Idg0xm7Z4gYAVg1X1NiBOLf/CYRXRNuERcvYVv/QJ8Hlew O229O9kOTNzeyiH0JWx6CcsnAcIG3pz+mXcP1mrg3U2ilsXa5wkjjQLCtxkTkr1c h4Z/8zmjFXLzenftbdpH8IPei8SOx7QhbSr94MLzPtNzGwNgPBW2oLYrB13xshst Q+Whir9a16nnbukGrJ1pVaK9uM3k+OfmHDuV3YY1/DwU5sEeD8ALBFqkh0W2W6+v hqjYSrUv2F0ibhDGJ9iv1nOrxPMUIZ+h7aI1WYZv4r11q5BXvzhRReEGL1UweIOP nKbuK19gl3UYMK8MBb5SWNloPae6nyabme8JIN/LvZobbsYK5zBObopjpPaOzEnV cBd3gltjfGFXuDlG5+96ZkL6pZQvIzuIIlwn/v2Yws5I26n5xYvew62xI2JUkHon UVY4ZaXZJcpZXtBw9e4bxY+xzdDyart+wxyGSVh2P7cd6CNcL6VN6l9I1cmNdgTn uJI4a5BpguyF0V01wM9nZvoR/8t+Rqp65Iv8UaHlm2Z5LazcrJgpqz5HIH9DnAnr THrPoipC8Ar/YYGTYWHejjPbVHr/hoIMUcVAV7yxzpwUUwxXSw== =puoo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_E5804C6E-4043-41AD-B3A7-54E7A7973F1D-- From nobody Sat Dec 1 10:54:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BEE130E13 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 10:54:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.88 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.88 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kbgSPwrcJSro for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 10:54:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CF4F130DFF for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2018 10:54:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.24] (cpe-70-122-203-106.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.203.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id wB1IsOgF012501 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Dec 2018 12:54:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-122-203-106.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.203.106] claimed to be [10.0.1.24] From: Ben Campbell Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F64B6C49-CAA8-467A-898A-6C30CB399ADA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 12:54:24 -0600 In-Reply-To: <197215AD-821A-4058-8CF9-04F46C3C9669@ericsson.com> Cc: Paul Kyzivat , "sipcore@ietf.org" To: Christer Holmberg References: <2950B7B3-99BC-4CF8-9781-F834F896F221@nostrum.com> <197215AD-821A-4058-8CF9-04F46C3C9669@ericsson.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-20 - Ben's technical comments - Exipres issue X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 18:54:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F64B6C49-CAA8-467A-898A-6C30CB399ADA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Dec 1, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Christer Holmberg = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > ... >=20 >>>> The time in the expiration time in the request is only a = preference. The >>>> registrar may reduce this value. So, if the registrar wants the >>>> expiration time for one binding to match that of some other = binding then >>>> it has some power to make that happen as long as the requested >>>> expiration is big enough. >>>>=20 >>>> (This can be confusing because while the values negotiated are = encoded >>>> as intervals what is actually being negotiated is a particular = point in >>>> time when the expiration occurs. Each end sets the point in time = as its >>>> notion of the current time plus the expiration time (interval). = Due to >>>> propagation delay the times at the two ends are only approximately >>>> equal. For the UAC this needs to be done based on the value in the >>>> response.) >>>=20 >>> Luckily, in most deployments, all contacts (all one of them :) will = be provided at the same time. >>>=20 >>> Also, using different expirations will not break anything - it may = only trigger binding refreshes earlier than needed. >>=20 >> Would it make sense to change that paragraph to non-normative = guidance that suggests making a reasonable effort to keep >> expirations in sync, and what happens if you don=E2=80=99t? >=20 > What about removing: >=20 > "If the SIP UA creates multiple bindings (e.g., one for IPv4 and = one > for IPv6), the UA SHOULD use the same 'expires' Contact header = field > parameter value [RFC3261] for each binding." >=20 > ...and adding: >=20 > "NOTE: If the SIP UA creates multiple bindings (e.g., one for IPv4 = and one > for IPv6), since a push notification will trigger to UA to refresh = all bindings, > it is preferable if one can ensure that all bindings expire at the = same > time. That will help preventing that some bindings are refreshed = earlier > than needed.=E2=80=9D WFM. Thanks! Ben. --Apple-Mail=_F64B6C49-CAA8-467A-898A-6C30CB399ADA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEExW9rpd7ez4DexOFOgFZKbJXz1A0FAlwC2OAACgkQgFZKbJXz 1A1hNA//Vu65IaMrwgaTX8PLlcQnQhn+5fAM4+H04IIC/W4JTxxlaOLrof0nAL2p FLPTFKsDl0h2rJmzwvBAvA9FnxZ2fsg+5JAE8Oby/8GcjT4KWuaApaJfH+J/4bWC O0gmQ2FVb4sQedrOLFsFp3LzZTkuHCvxqKTTh005F7RiMfxkSAzEPJoCa91OleAV lJnaaM9JOtsRdmjndG046akvifgzE+mQnuyF+oDeKnRBtyz9qoCmv/RwPYWP1NCE YVn8nrb2GHpgDqYbF1Lyc2HZTtX6M0Qg53KEUZ85wz44UeqE0/Du7M1cLkNqXBff yPOukdCRDEYH3uGPD9lEQXMFuvm0ZAO0SRBW3qiINcol0B/rk6C2a8+ESCbYVQMh xtWz19JVwWJfCbNIF3JK8HyiDwO5MToa2wtq6ISlNfeQH50eYy/MP7oET1qD37o1 qVZ0A/Iarxq8PxAd4gFX7SVnp1/Q5jO/PeivstOG52+X5Z1lMqASEI9k6HIbaVY1 92FVQgHGePKax5Wv1iHO1jE3Xrni0YySgh0iKTd1kT0htEJVsrZ5GPDRivbxTYju YBfJcrRCajA/nk/ZkB1hYoNaQtmhwwE4mCOqaQFG3kLEUJY+cSfR/Q8oFAHs5kOc FDfp8wlTtF/NT6WxIJvejBONp+vgJWKQ3MRteaLG35+IrAIg4hc= =aTdD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_F64B6C49-CAA8-467A-898A-6C30CB399ADA-- From nobody Sat Dec 1 11:35:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A42130E48 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ben, thank you for your guidance. We have discussed this during the 3GPP coordination meeting in Singapore. Because in 3GPP we have an dependency which points to draft-jesske-update-p= -visited-network-00. At that time the proposal was to write an errata to the RFC but I'm also wi= lling to update the RFC 7976 from Christer. Or we update RFC 7315 which is describing the whole 3GPP P- headers. So I'm willing to do either way. Best Regards Roland Von: sipcore Im Auftrag von Ben Campbell Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2018 22:51 An: RFC Errata System Cc: nevenka.biondic@ericsson.com; sipcore-chairs@ietf.org; sipcore@ietf.org= ; Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) ; Jesske, Roland ; IESG Betreff: ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: [sipcore] [Technical Errata Re= ported] RFC7976 (5393) (+ sipcore and chairs) Hi Roland, When you say the 3GPP identified the need to send P-Visited-Network-ID in r= esponses; was that an error in RFC7976 at the time of publication, or somet= hing that was realized after the RFC was published? The former makes sense for an erratum. But situations where an RFC expresse= s the intent of the authors at the time of publication, but we learn later = that we should have done something different are not appropriate for errata= ; those usually need us to update (or obsolete) the RFC through the usual p= rocesses. Thanks! Ben. > On Jun 15, 2018, at 1:40 AM, RFC Errata System > wrote: > > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7976, > "Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usage in Session Initiati= on Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5393 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: Roland Jesske > > > Section: 3 > > Original Text > ------------- > 3. Updates to RFC 7315 > > This section implements the update to Section 5.7 of RFC 7315, in > order to implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP requirements > described in Section 2. > > Old text: > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER method > and 2xx resonses [sic]. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can > appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE > methods and all responses. The P-Visited-Network-ID header field can > appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, and CANCEL and all > responses. The P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all > SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL. The P-Charging-Vector header > field can appear in all SIP methods except CANCEL. The > P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in all SIP > methods except ACK and CANCEL. > > New text: > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER 2xx > responses. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can appear in the SIP > INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE methods. The > P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP methods > except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE. The > P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP methods and > non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and > ACK methods triggered by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Vector > header field can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, > except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods triggered > by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field > can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, except in CANCEL > methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods. > > Corrected Text > -------------- > 3. Updates to RFC 7315 > > This section implements the update to Section 5.7 of RFC 7315, in > order to implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP requirements > described in Section 2. > > Old text: > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER method > and 2xx resonses [sic]. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can > appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE > methods and all responses. The P-Visited-Network-ID header field can > appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, and CANCEL and all > responses. The P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all > SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL. The P-Charging-Vector header > field can appear in all SIP methods except CANCEL. The > P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in all SIP > methods except ACK and CANCEL. > > New text: > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER 2xx > responses. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can appear in the SIP > INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE methods. The > P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP methods > except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE and all > responses exept 100. The > P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP methods and > non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and > ACK methods triggered by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Vector > header field can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, > except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods triggered > by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field > can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, except in CANCEL > methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods. > > Notes > ----- > The Third Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) has identified cases > where the private header field P-Visited-Network-ID SIP private > header extensions, which is defined in RFC 7315 and updated by RFC > 7976, needs to be included in SIP requests and responses. This > eratta updates RFC 7976, in order to allow inclusion of the P- > Visited-Network-ID header field in responses exept 100. > The issue was also discussed within a 3GPP - IETF coordination meeting. > > Instructions: > ------------- > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC7976 (draft-holmberg-dispatch-rfc7315-updates-09) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usag= e in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses > Publication Date : September 2016 > Author(s) : C. Holmberg, N. Biondic, G. Salgueiro > Category : INFORMATIONAL > Source : IETF - NON WORKING GROUP > Area : N/A > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG > _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore --_000_FRXPR01MB01351C87766ED44C892288D6F9AE0FRXPR01MB0135DEUP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Ben,

thank you for your guidance.

We have discussed this during the 3GPP coordination meeting in Singap= ore.

Because in 3GPP we have an dependency which points to draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network-00.<= /o:p>

 

At that time the proposal was t= o write an errata to the RFC but I’m also willing to update the RFC 7= 976 from Christer.

Or we update RFC 7315 which is = describing the whole 3GPP P- headers.

 

So I’m willing to do eith= er way.

 

Best Regards<= /p>

 

Roland

 

Von: sipcore <sipcore-bounces@ietf.org>= Im Auftrag von Ben Campbell
Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2018 22:51
An: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
Cc: nevenka.biondic@ericsson.com; sipcore-chairs@ietf.org; sipcore@i= etf.org; Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) <gsalguei@cisco.com>; Jesske, R= oland <R.Jesske@telekom.de>; IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
Betreff: ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: [sipcore] [Technical Er= rata Reported] RFC7976 (5393)

 

= (+ sipcore and chairs)

Hi Roland,

When you say the 3GPP identified the need to send P-Visited-Network-ID in r= esponses; was that an error in RFC7976 at the time of publication, or somet= hing that was realized after the RFC was published?

The former makes sense for an erratum. But situations where an RFC expresse= s the intent of the authors at the time of publication, but we learn later = that we should have done something different are not appropriate for errata= ; those usually need us to update (or obsolete) the RFC through the usual processes.

Thanks!

Ben.


> On Jun 15, 2018, at 1:40 AM, RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor= .org> wrote:
>
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7976,
> "Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usage in Session = Initiation Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5393
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Roland Jesske <r.jesske@telekom.de>
>
> Section: 3
>
> Original Text
> -------------
> 3.  Updates to RFC 7315
>
>   This section implements the update to Section 5.7 of RFC 7= 315, in
>   order to implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP req= uirements
>   described in Section 2.
>
>   Old text:
>
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGIST= ER method
>   and 2xx resonses [sic].  The P-Called-Party-ID header= field can
>   appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, SUBSCRIBE, and MES= SAGE
>   methods and all responses.  The P-Visited-Network-ID = header field can
>   appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, and CANCEL and = all
>   responses.  The P-Access-Network-Info header field ca= n appear in all
>   SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL.  The P-Charging-Ve= ctor header
>   field can appear in all SIP methods except CANCEL.  T= he
>   P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in a= ll SIP
>   methods except ACK and CANCEL.
>
>   New text:
>
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGIST= ER 2xx
>   responses.  The P-Called-Party-ID header field can ap= pear in the SIP
>   INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE me= thods.  The
>   P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP me= thods
>   except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE.&= nbsp; The
>   P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP m= ethods and
>   non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL respon= ses, and
>   ACK methods triggered by non-2xx responses.  The P-Ch= arging-Vector
>   header field can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 res= ponses,
>   except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK method= s triggered
>   by non-2xx responses.  The P-Charging-Function-Addres= ses header field
>   can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, excep= t in CANCEL
>   methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods.
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
> 3.  Updates to RFC 7315
>
>   This section implements the update to Section 5.7 of RFC 7= 315, in
>   order to implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP req= uirements
>   described in Section 2.
>
>   Old text:
>
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGIST= ER method
>   and 2xx resonses [sic].  The P-Called-Party-ID header= field can
>   appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, SUBSCRIBE, and MES= SAGE
>   methods and all responses.  The P-Visited-Network-ID = header field can
>   appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, and CANCEL and = all
>   responses.  The P-Access-Network-Info header field ca= n appear in all
>   SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL.  The P-Charging-Ve= ctor header
>   field can appear in all SIP methods except CANCEL.  T= he
>   P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in a= ll SIP
>   methods except ACK and CANCEL.
>
>   New text:
>
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGIST= ER 2xx
>   responses.  The P-Called-Party-ID header field can ap= pear in the SIP
>   INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE me= thods.  The
>   P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP me= thods
>   except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE a= nd all
>   responses exept 100.  The
>   P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP m= ethods and
>   non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL respon= ses, and
>   ACK methods triggered by non-2xx responses.  The P-Ch= arging-Vector
>   header field can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 res= ponses,
>   except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK method= s triggered
>   by non-2xx responses.  The P-Charging-Function-Addres= ses header field
>   can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, excep= t in CANCEL
>   methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods.
>
> Notes
> -----
> The Third Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) has identified cases >   where the private header field P-Visited-Network-ID SIP pr= ivate
>   header extensions, which is defined in RFC 7315 and update= d by RFC
>   7976, needs to be included in SIP requests and responses.&= nbsp; This
>   eratta updates RFC 7976, in order to allow inclusion of th= e P-
>   Visited-Network-ID header field in responses exept 100. > The issue was also discussed within a 3GPP - IETF coordination meeting= .
>
> Instructions:
> -------------
> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary= , please
> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or<= br> > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party
> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.
>
> --------------------------------------
> RFC7976 (draft-holmberg-dispatch-rfc7315-updates-09)
> --------------------------------------
> Title           = ;    : Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usage = in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses
> Publication Date    : September 2016
> Author(s)           = : C. Holmberg, N. Biondic, G. Salgueiro
> Category          &n= bsp; : INFORMATIONAL
> Source          &nbs= p;   : IETF - NON WORKING GROUP
> Area           =      : N/A
> Stream          &nbs= p;   : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG
>

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--_000_FRXPR01MB01351C87766ED44C892288D6F9AE0FRXPR01MB0135DEUP_-- From nobody Mon Dec 3 06:10:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D10E128CF2; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 06:10:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.878 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.878 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HvK8PjRVSi1i; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 06:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E701312D4EC; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 06:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.80.113.142] (mobile-166-177-121-255.mycingular.net [166.177.121.255]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id wB3E9jsj038003 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Dec 2018 08:09:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host mobile-166-177-121-255.mycingular.net [166.177.121.255] claimed to be [10.80.113.142] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-93DF3F15-6563-4761-84C5-FF9C5805309A Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Ben Campbell X-Mailer: iPad Mail (16B92) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 08:09:38 -0600 Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, nevenka.biondic@ericsson.com, sipcore-chairs@ietf.org, sipcore@ietf.org, gsalguei@cisco.com, iesg@ietf.org, georg.mayer.huawei@gmx.com, christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <6E134D6D-C2C9-40C9-BD70-0AB8EE37D9D8@nostrum.com> References: To: R.Jesske@telekom.de Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7976 (5393) X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2018 14:10:09 -0000 --Apple-Mail-93DF3F15-6563-4761-84C5-FF9C5805309A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roland, I don=E2=80=99t recall if we discussed whether the errata represented someth= ing that should have been in the RFC when original published vs a change sin= ce the RFC was published. Do you have thoughts on that? Do you expect the document(s) that depend on the RFC to explicitly cite the e= rrata report? Thanks! Ben. > On Dec 3, 2018, at 6:50 AM, wr= ote: >=20 > Hi Ben, > thank you for your guidance. > We have discussed this during the 3GPP coordination meeting in Singapore. > Because in 3GPP we have an dependency which points to draft-jesske-update-= p-visited-network-00. > =20 > At that time the proposal was to write an errata to the RFC but I=E2=80=99= m also willing to update the RFC 7976 from Christer. > Or we update RFC 7315 which is describing the whole 3GPP P- headers. > =20 > So I=E2=80=99m willing to do either way. > =20 > Best Regards > =20 > Roland > =20 > Von: sipcore Im Auftrag von Ben Campbell > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2018 22:51 > An: RFC Errata System > Cc: nevenka.biondic@ericsson.com; sipcore-chairs@ietf.org; sipcore@ietf.or= g; Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) ; Jesske, Roland ; IESG > Betreff: ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: [sipcore] [Technical Errata R= eported] RFC7976 (5393) > =20 > (+ sipcore and chairs) >=20 > Hi Roland, >=20 > When you say the 3GPP identified the need to send P-Visited-Network-ID in r= esponses; was that an error in RFC7976 at the time of publication, or someth= ing that was realized after the RFC was published? >=20 > The former makes sense for an erratum. But situations where an RFC express= es the intent of the authors at the time of publication, but we learn later t= hat we should have done something different are not appropriate for errata; t= hose usually need us to update (or obsolete) the RFC through the usual proce= sses. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Ben. >=20 >=20 > > On Jun 15, 2018, at 1:40 AM, RFC Errata System wrote: > >=20 > > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7976, > > "Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usage in Session Initiat= ion Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses". > >=20 > > -------------------------------------- > > You may review the report below and at: > > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5393 > >=20 > > -------------------------------------- > > Type: Technical > > Reported by: Roland Jesske > >=20 > > Section: 3 > >=20 > > Original Text > > ------------- > > 3. Updates to RFC 7315 > >=20 > > This section implements the update to Section 5.7 of RFC 7315, in > > order to implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP requirements > > described in Section 2. > >=20 > > Old text: > >=20 > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER method > > and 2xx resonses [sic]. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can > > appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE > > methods and all responses. The P-Visited-Network-ID header field can > > appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, and CANCEL and all > > responses. The P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all > > SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL. The P-Charging-Vector header > > field can appear in all SIP methods except CANCEL. The > > P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in all SIP > > methods except ACK and CANCEL. > >=20 > > New text: > >=20 > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER 2xx > > responses. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can appear in the SIP > > INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE methods. The > > P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP methods > > except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE. The > > P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP methods and > > non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and > > ACK methods triggered by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Vector > > header field can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, > > except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods triggered > > by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field > > can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, except in CANCEL > > methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods. > >=20 > > Corrected Text > > -------------- > > 3. Updates to RFC 7315 > >=20 > > This section implements the update to Section 5.7 of RFC 7315, in > > order to implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP requirements > > described in Section 2. > >=20 > > Old text: > >=20 > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER method > > and 2xx resonses [sic]. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can > > appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE > > methods and all responses. The P-Visited-Network-ID header field can > > appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, and CANCEL and all > > responses. The P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all > > SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL. The P-Charging-Vector header > > field can appear in all SIP methods except CANCEL. The > > P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in all SIP > > methods except ACK and CANCEL. > >=20 > > New text: > >=20 > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER 2xx > > responses. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can appear in the SIP > > INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE methods. The > > P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP methods > > except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE and all > > responses exept 100. The > > P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP methods and > > non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and > > ACK methods triggered by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Vector > > header field can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, > > except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods triggered > > by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field > > can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, except in CANCEL > > methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods. > >=20 > > Notes > > ----- > > The Third Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) has identified cases > > where the private header field P-Visited-Network-ID SIP private > > header extensions, which is defined in RFC 7315 and updated by RFC > > 7976, needs to be included in SIP requests and responses. This > > eratta updates RFC 7976, in order to allow inclusion of the P- > > Visited-Network-ID header field in responses exept 100. > > The issue was also discussed within a 3GPP - IETF coordination meeting. > >=20 > > Instructions: > > ------------- > > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party > > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > >=20 > > -------------------------------------- > > RFC7976 (draft-holmberg-dispatch-rfc7315-updates-09) > > -------------------------------------- > > Title : Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usa= ge in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses > > Publication Date : September 2016 > > Author(s) : C. Holmberg, N. Biondic, G. Salgueiro > > Category : INFORMATIONAL > > Source : IETF - NON WORKING GROUP > > Area : N/A > > Stream : IETF > > Verifying Party : IESG > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore --Apple-Mail-93DF3F15-6563-4761-84C5-FF9C5805309A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi R= oland,

I don=E2=80=99t reca= ll if we discussed whether the errata represented something that should have= been in the RFC when original published vs a change since the RFC was publi= shed.    Do you have thoughts on that?

<= /div>
Do you expect the document(s) that depend on the RFC t= o explicitly cite the errata report?

Thanks!

Ben.

On Dec 3, 2018, at 6:50 AM, <R.Jesske@telekom.de> <R.Jesske@telekom.de> wrote:

=

Hi Ben,

thank you for your guidance.

We have discussed this during the 3GPP coordination meeting in Singapor= e.

Because in 3GPP we have an dependency which points to draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network-00.

 

At that time the proposal was to= write an errata to the RFC but I=E2=80=99m also willing to update the RFC 7= 976 from Christer.

Or we update RFC 7315 which is d= escribing the whole 3GPP P- headers.

 

So I=E2=80=99m willing to do eit= her way.

 

Best Regards

 

Roland

 

Von: sipcore <sipcore-bounces@ietf.org> Im Auftrag von Ben Campbell
Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2018 22:51
An: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
Cc: nevenka.biondic@e= ricsson.com; sipcore-chairs@i= etf.org; sipcore@ietf.org; Gonza= lo Salgueiro (gsalguei) <gsalguei@c= isco.com>; Jesske, Roland <= R.Jesske@telekom.de>; IESG <iesg@= ietf.org>
Betreff: ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: [sipcore] [Technical Err= ata Reported] RFC7976 (5393)

 

(= + sipcore and chairs)

Hi Roland,

When you say the 3GPP identified the need to send P-Visited-Network-ID in re= sponses; was that an error in RFC7976 at the time of publication, or somethi= ng that was realized after the RFC was published?

The former makes sense for an erratum. But situations where an RFC expresses= the intent of the authors at the time of publication, but we learn later th= at we should have done something different are not appropriate for errata; t= hose usually need us to update (or obsolete) the RFC through the usual processes.

Thanks!

Ben.


> On Jun 15, 2018, at 1:40 AM, RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.o= rg> wrote:
>
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7976,
> "Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usage in Session Initia= tion Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5393
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Roland Jesske <r.jesske@telekom.de>
>
> Section: 3
>
> Original Text
> -------------
> 3.  Updates to RFC 7315
>
>   This section implements the update to Section 5.7 of RFC 73= 15, in
>   order to implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP requ= irements
>   described in Section 2.
>
>   Old text:
>
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTE= R method
>   and 2xx resonses [sic].  The P-Called-Party-ID header f= ield can
>   appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, SUBSCRIBE, and MESS= AGE
>   methods and all responses.  The P-Visited-Network-ID h= eader field can
>   appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, and CANCEL and a= ll
>   responses.  The P-Access-Network-Info header field can= appear in all
>   SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL.  The P-Charging-Vec= tor header
>   field can appear in all SIP methods except CANCEL.  Th= e
>   P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in al= l SIP
>   methods except ACK and CANCEL.
>
>   New text:
>
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTE= R 2xx
>   responses.  The P-Called-Party-ID header field can app= ear in the SIP
>   INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE met= hods.  The
>   P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP met= hods
>   except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE.&n= bsp; The
>   P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP me= thods and
>   non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL respons= es, and
>   ACK methods triggered by non-2xx responses.  The P-Cha= rging-Vector
>   header field can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 resp= onses,
>   except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods= triggered
>   by non-2xx responses.  The P-Charging-Function-Address= es header field
>   can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, except= in CANCEL
>   methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods.
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
> 3.  Updates to RFC 7315
>
>   This section implements the update to Section 5.7 of RFC 73= 15, in
>   order to implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP requ= irements
>   described in Section 2.
>
>   Old text:
>
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTE= R method
>   and 2xx resonses [sic].  The P-Called-Party-ID header f= ield can
>   appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, SUBSCRIBE, and MESS= AGE
>   methods and all responses.  The P-Visited-Network-ID h= eader field can
>   appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, and CANCEL and a= ll
>   responses.  The P-Access-Network-Info header field can= appear in all
>   SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL.  The P-Charging-Vec= tor header
>   field can appear in all SIP methods except CANCEL.  Th= e
>   P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in al= l SIP
>   methods except ACK and CANCEL.
>
>   New text:
>
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTE= R 2xx
>   responses.  The P-Called-Party-ID header field can app= ear in the SIP
>   INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE met= hods.  The
>   P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP met= hods
>   except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE an= d all
>   responses exept 100.  The
>   P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP me= thods and
>   non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL respons= es, and
>   ACK methods triggered by non-2xx responses.  The P-Cha= rging-Vector
>   header field can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 resp= onses,
>   except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods= triggered
>   by non-2xx responses.  The P-Charging-Function-Address= es header field
>   can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, except= in CANCEL
>   methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods.
>
> Notes
> -----
> The Third Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) has identified cases >   where the private header field P-Visited-Network-ID SIP pri= vate
>   header extensions, which is defined in RFC 7315 and updated= by RFC
>   7976, needs to be included in SIP requests and responses.&n= bsp; This
>   eratta updates RFC 7976, in order to allow inclusion of the= P-
>   Visited-Network-ID header field in responses exept 100.
= > The issue was also discussed within a 3GPP - IETF coordination meeting.=
>
> Instructions:
> -------------
> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party
> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.
>
> --------------------------------------
> RFC7976 (draft-holmberg-dispatch-rfc7315-updates-09)
> --------------------------------------
> Title           =     : Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usage in= Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses
> Publication Date    : September 2016
> Author(s)           := C. Holmberg, N. Biondic, G. Salgueiro
> Category          &nb= sp; : INFORMATIONAL
> Source           = ;   : IETF - NON WORKING GROUP
> Area           &= nbsp;    : N/A
> Stream           = ;   : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG
>

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(Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- It seems to me that the title and abstract aren't particularly useful in helping a reader determine whether this is a document that's useful to read. The information in the Introduction helps a LOT (starting with the point that this work is done in response to requirements from 3GPP). Is it possible that part of that information could appear in the title and abstract, to make this document more accessible? 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(2.3445.101.1) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Dec 2018 10:57:43 -0800 Subject: Re: [sipcore] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7976 (5393) X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2018 18:18:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_88689636-2ABF-429A-8FD3-70BC5CDD771D Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C67754D3-01C9-45B2-AFB8-7FA3F1EA0D4F" --Apple-Mail=_C67754D3-01C9-45B2-AFB8-7FA3F1EA0D4F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 To be clear, you do not have to create a full 7976bis draft that would = obsolete 7976. One can create a very short draft that updates 7976 by = just describing the change. ( I don=E2=80=99t have strong feelings = either way; while a =E2=80=9Cbis=E2=80=9D draft might be a little easier = for readers, an =E2=80=9Cupdates=E2=80=9D draft is much easier to work = through the process for minor updates.) Thanks! Ben. > On Dec 4, 2018, at 1:53 AM, = wrote: >=20 > Hi Ben, > thinking through I think it is better, as you proposed, to update the = draft itself > So if I get the files form Christer I can create an new RFC7976bis = which would be the easiest way. >=20 > To update RFC7315bis would possibly lead in an longer discussion and = publication phase as an RFC7976bis approach. >=20 > @Atle/Peter/Georg: any thoughts from 3GPP side? >=20 > Thank you and Best Regards. >=20 > Roland >=20 >=20 >=20 > Von: Ben Campbell > Gesendet: Montag, 3. Dezember 2018 15:10 > An: Jesske, Roland > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; nevenka.biondic@ericsson.com; = sipcore-chairs@ietf.org; sipcore@ietf.org; gsalguei@cisco.com; = iesg@ietf.org; georg.mayer.huawei@gmx.com; = christer.holmberg@ericsson.com > Betreff: Re: [sipcore] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7976 (5393) >=20 > Hi Roland, >=20 > I don=E2=80=99t recall if we discussed whether the errata represented = something that should have been in the RFC when original published vs a = change since the RFC was published. Do you have thoughts on that? >=20 > Do you expect the document(s) that depend on the RFC to explicitly = cite the errata report? >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Ben. >=20 > On Dec 3, 2018, at 6:50 AM, > > wrote: >=20 > Hi Ben, > thank you for your guidance. > We have discussed this during the 3GPP coordination meeting in = Singapore. > Because in 3GPP we have an dependency which points to = draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network-00. >=20 > At that time the proposal was to write an errata to the RFC but I=E2=80=99= m also willing to update the RFC 7976 from Christer. > Or we update RFC 7315 which is describing the whole 3GPP P- headers. >=20 > So I=E2=80=99m willing to do either way. >=20 > Best Regards >=20 > Roland >=20 > Von: sipcore > Im Auftrag von Ben Campbell > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2018 22:51 > An: RFC Errata System > > Cc: nevenka.biondic@ericsson.com = ; sipcore-chairs@ietf.org = ; sipcore@ietf.org = ; Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) = >; Jesske, Roland = >; IESG > > Betreff: ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: [sipcore] [Technical = Errata Reported] RFC7976 (5393) >=20 > (+ sipcore and chairs) >=20 > Hi Roland, >=20 > When you say the 3GPP identified the need to send P-Visited-Network-ID = in responses; was that an error in RFC7976 at the time of publication, = or something that was realized after the RFC was published? >=20 > The former makes sense for an erratum. But situations where an RFC = expresses the intent of the authors at the time of publication, but we = learn later that we should have done something different are not = appropriate for errata; those usually need us to update (or obsolete) = the RFC through the usual processes. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Ben. >=20 >=20 > > On Jun 15, 2018, at 1:40 AM, RFC Errata System = > wrote: > > > > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7976, > > "Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usage in Session = Initiation Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses". > > > > -------------------------------------- > > You may review the report below and at: > > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5393 = > > > > -------------------------------------- > > Type: Technical > > Reported by: Roland Jesske > > > > > Section: 3 > > > > Original Text > > ------------- > > 3. Updates to RFC 7315 > > > > This section implements the update to Section 5.7 of RFC 7315, in > > order to implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP = requirements > > described in Section 2. > > > > Old text: > > > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER = method > > and 2xx resonses [sic]. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can > > appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE > > methods and all responses. The P-Visited-Network-ID header field = can > > appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, and CANCEL and all > > responses. The P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in = all > > SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL. The P-Charging-Vector header > > field can appear in all SIP methods except CANCEL. The > > P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in all SIP > > methods except ACK and CANCEL. > > > > New text: > > > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER 2xx > > responses. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can appear in the = SIP > > INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE methods. = The > > P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP methods > > except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE. The > > P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP methods = and > > non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and > > ACK methods triggered by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Vector > > header field can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, > > except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods = triggered > > by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Function-Addresses header = field > > can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, except in = CANCEL > > methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods. > > > > Corrected Text > > -------------- > > 3. Updates to RFC 7315 > > > > This section implements the update to Section 5.7 of RFC 7315, in > > order to implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP = requirements > > described in Section 2. > > > > Old text: > > > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER = method > > and 2xx resonses [sic]. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can > > appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE > > methods and all responses. The P-Visited-Network-ID header field = can > > appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, and CANCEL and all > > responses. The P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in = all > > SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL. The P-Charging-Vector header > > field can appear in all SIP methods except CANCEL. The > > P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in all SIP > > methods except ACK and CANCEL. > > > > New text: > > > > The P-Associated-URI header field can appear in SIP REGISTER 2xx > > responses. The P-Called-Party-ID header field can appear in the = SIP > > INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE methods. = The > > P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP methods > > except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, INFO, and UPDATE and all > > responses exept 100. The > > P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP methods = and > > non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and > > ACK methods triggered by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Vector > > header field can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, > > except in CANCEL methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods = triggered > > by non-2xx responses. The P-Charging-Function-Addresses header = field > > can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, except in = CANCEL > > methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods. > > > > Notes > > ----- > > The Third Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) has identified cases > > where the private header field P-Visited-Network-ID SIP private > > header extensions, which is defined in RFC 7315 and updated by RFC > > 7976, needs to be included in SIP requests and responses. This > > eratta updates RFC 7976, in order to allow inclusion of the P- > > Visited-Network-ID header field in responses exept 100. > > The issue was also discussed within a 3GPP - IETF coordination = meeting. > > > > Instructions: > > ------------- > > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party > > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > > > -------------------------------------- > > RFC7976 (draft-holmberg-dispatch-rfc7315-updates-09) > > -------------------------------------- > > Title : Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension = Usage in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses > > Publication Date : September 2016 > > Author(s) : C. Holmberg, N. Biondic, G. Salgueiro > > Category : INFORMATIONAL > > Source : IETF - NON WORKING GROUP > > Area : N/A > > Stream : IETF > > Verifying Party : IESG > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore = --Apple-Mail=_C67754D3-01C9-45B2-AFB8-7FA3F1EA0D4F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 To = be clear, you do not have to create a full 7976bis draft that would = obsolete 7976. One can create a very short draft that updates 7976 by = just describing the change. ( I don=E2=80=99t have strong feelings = either way; while a =E2=80=9Cbis=E2=80=9D draft might be a little easier = for readers, an =E2=80=9Cupdates=E2=80=9D draft is much easier to work = through the process for minor updates.)

Thanks!

Ben.


On Dec 4, 2018, at 1:53 AM, <R.Jesske@telekom.de>= <R.Jesske@telekom.de> wrote:

Hi Ben,
thinking = through I think it is better, as you proposed, to update the draft = itself
So if I get the files form = Christer I can create an new RFC7976bis which would be the easiest = way.
 
To update RFC7315bis would = possibly lead in an longer discussion and publication phase as an = RFC7976bis approach.
 
@Atle/Peter/Georg: any = thoughts from 3GPP side?
 
Thank you and Best = Regards.
 
Roland
 
 
 
Von: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> 
Gesendet: Montag, 3. Dezember 2018 = 15:10
An: Jesske, Roland <R.Jesske@telekom.de>
Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; nevenka.biondic@ericsson.com; sipcore-chairs@ietf.org; sipcore@ietf.org; gsalguei@cisco.com; iesg@ietf.org; georg.mayer.huawei@gmx.com; christer.holmberg@ericsson.com
Betreff: Re: [sipcore] [Technical = Errata Reported] RFC7976 (5393)
 
Hi = Roland,
 
I = don=E2=80=99t recall if we discussed whether the errata represented = something that should have been in the RFC when original published vs a = change since the RFC was published.    Do you have thoughts on = that?
 
Do you = expect the document(s) that depend on the RFC to explicitly cite the = errata report?
 
Thanks!
 
Ben.

On Dec 3, 2018, at 6:50 AM, <R.Jesske@telekom.de> <R.Jesske@telekom.de> wrote:

Hi Ben,
thank = you for your guidance.
We have discussed this during the 3GPP = coordination meeting in Singapore.
Because in 3GPP we have an = dependency which points to draft-jesske-update-p-visited-network-00.
 
At that = time the proposal was to write an errata to the RFC but I=E2=80=99m also = willing to update the RFC 7976 from Christer.
Or we update RFC 7315 which is describing the = whole 3GPP P- headers.
 
So I=E2=80=99m willing to do = either way.
 
Best = Regards
 
Roland
 
Von: sipcore <sipcore-bounces@ietf.org> Im Auftrag = von Ben = Campbell
Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2018 = 22:51
An: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
Cc: nevenka.biondic@ericsson.com; sipcore-chairs@ietf.org; sipcore@ietf.org; Gonzalo = Salgueiro (gsalguei) <gsalguei@cisco.com>; Jesske, Roland <R.Jesske@telekom.de>; = IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
Betreff: ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*= ** Re: [sipcore] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7976 (5393)
 

(+ sipcore and chairs)

Hi = Roland,

When you say the 3GPP identified = the need to send P-Visited-Network-ID in responses; was that an error in = RFC7976 at the time of publication, or something that was realized after = the RFC was published?

The former makes = sense for an erratum. But situations where an RFC expresses the intent = of the authors at the time of publication, but we learn later that we = should have done something different are not appropriate for errata; = those usually need us to update (or obsolete) the RFC through the usual = processes.

Thanks!

Ben.


> On Jun = 15, 2018, at 1:40 AM, RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> 
> The = following errata report has been submitted for RFC7976,
>= "Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usage in Session = Initiation Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses".
> 
> = --------------------------------------
> You may review = the report below and at:
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5393
> 
> = --------------------------------------
> Type: = Technical
> Reported by: Roland Jesske <r.jesske@telekom.de>
> 
> = Section: 3
> 
> = Original Text
> -------------
> = 3.  Updates to RFC 7315
> 
>   This section implements the update to = Section 5.7 of RFC 7315, in
>   order to = implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP requirements
>   described in Section 2.
> 
>   Old text:
> 
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear = in SIP REGISTER method
>   and 2xx resonses = [sic].  The P-Called-Party-ID header field can
>   appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, = SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE
>   methods and all = responses.  The P-Visited-Network-ID header field can
>   appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, = and CANCEL and all
>   responses.  The = P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all
>   SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL.  The = P-Charging-Vector header
>   field can appear = in all SIP methods except CANCEL.  The
>  = P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in all SIP
>   methods except ACK and CANCEL.
> 
>   New text:
> 
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear = in SIP REGISTER 2xx
>   responses.  The = P-Called-Party-ID header field can appear in the SIP
>   INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, = and MESSAGE methods.  The
>   = P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP methods
>   except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, = INFO, and UPDATE.  The
>   = P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all SIP methods and
>   non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, = CANCEL responses, and
>   ACK methods = triggered by non-2xx responses.  The P-Charging-Vector
>   header field can appear in all SIP methods = and non-100 responses,
>   except in CANCEL = methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods triggered
>   by non-2xx responses.  The = P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field
>   = can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, except in CANCEL
>   methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK = methods.
> 
> = Corrected Text
> --------------
> = 3.  Updates to RFC 7315
> 
>   This section implements the update to = Section 5.7 of RFC 7315, in
>   order to = implement the misalignment fixes and the 3GPP requirements
>   described in Section 2.
> 
>   Old text:
> 
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear = in SIP REGISTER method
>   and 2xx resonses = [sic].  The P-Called-Party-ID header field can
>   appear in SIP INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, = SUBSCRIBE, and MESSAGE
>   methods and all = responses.  The P-Visited-Network-ID header field can
>   appear in all SIP methods except ACK, BYE, = and CANCEL and all
>   responses.  The = P-Access-Network-Info header field can appear in all
>   SIP methods except ACK and CANCEL.  The = P-Charging-Vector header
>   field can appear = in all SIP methods except CANCEL.  The
>  = P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field can appear in all SIP
>   methods except ACK and CANCEL.
> 
>   New text:
> 
>   The P-Associated-URI header field can appear = in SIP REGISTER 2xx
>   responses.  The = P-Called-Party-ID header field can appear in the SIP
>   INVITE, OPTIONS, PUBLISH, REFER, SUBSCRIBE, = and MESSAGE methods.  The
>   = P-Visited-Network-ID header field can appear in all SIP methods
>   except ACK, BYE, CANCEL, NOTIFY, PRACK, = INFO, and UPDATE and all
>   responses exept = 100.  The
>   P-Access-Network-Info = header field can appear in all SIP methods and
>   non-100 responses, except in CANCEL methods, = CANCEL responses, and
>   ACK methods = triggered by non-2xx responses.  The P-Charging-Vector
>   header field can appear in all SIP methods = and non-100 responses,
>   except in CANCEL = methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK methods triggered
>   by non-2xx responses.  The = P-Charging-Function-Addresses header field
>   = can appear in all SIP methods and non-100 responses, except in CANCEL
>   methods, CANCEL responses, and ACK = methods.
> 
> = Notes
> -----
> The Third Generation = Partnership Project (3GPP) has identified cases
>   where the private header field = P-Visited-Network-ID SIP private
>   header = extensions, which is defined in RFC 7315 and updated by RFC
>   7976, needs to be included in SIP requests = and responses.  This
>   eratta updates = RFC 7976, in order to allow inclusion of the P-
>   Visited-Network-ID header field in responses = exept 100.
> The issue was also discussed within a 3GPP = - IETF coordination meeting.
> 
> = Instructions:
> -------------
> This = erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified = or
> rejected. When a decision is reached, the = verifying party
> can log in to change the status and = edit the report, if necessary.
> 
> = --------------------------------------
> RFC7976 = (draft-holmberg-dispatch-rfc7315-updates-09)
> = --------------------------------------
> = Title           &nb= sp;   : Updates to Private Header (P-Header) Extension Usage = in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Requests and Responses
> Publication Date    : September 2016
> = Author(s)           : = C. Holmberg, N. Biondic, G. Salgueiro
> = Category           = : INFORMATIONAL
> = Source           &n= bsp;  : IETF - NON WORKING GROUP
> = Area           &nbs= p;    : N/A
> = Stream           &n= bsp;  : IETF
> Verifying = Party     : IESG
> 

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auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154404628182.31821.12148735092572817162.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 13:44:41 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sipcore] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 21:44:42 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. 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From nobody Wed Dec 5 13:45:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70C4130DFF; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 13:45:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cooperw.in header.b=g5k59ogA; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=xOYg+p48 Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1iuxZ_P0OFV8; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 13:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B5B3130E03; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 13:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1155A23F9B; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 05 Dec 2018 16:45:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cooperw.in; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=fm1; bh=A KM2Ao4ZGp69Sv+6w16nOT5bwAN+p1QmHdGG6a9GZ6E=; b=g5k59ogAU1nntagLP UgwrZJe2kN0MqCu3GkXakjsZ+dC6An9YSu65hlfsVl5OlQoN2MXdO0mhgybkqMqr iy683oB9MSJzsL1X3pNWjkK0kBDUg5ddY393VZOfdxUWasVFzWo5mvcSqUVYWsDN 7ekqCwmzJABnWblR0i2nAcFAhn2kKx6Os2Kr3cNYmL3yUn3IGhWDHvW3R9vBnFWZ gv6rkbqkELixbm4T3IYUk1XU1BfLe/fGqMoJJDAw2nTMkFTnYWOB/hBLxHtrSK+E f6tNI+l+KGp06LOGBSXlEIWt+iOi5sf25gpSFPeXgECnzLsWNUy9tyFx6XVokHzv OpQZg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=AKM2Ao4ZGp69Sv+6w16nOT5bwAN+p1QmHdGG6a9GZ 6E=; b=xOYg+p48KANCQ7WWAk6pk7PD9WLrvfE19YTh/9MszcOfqpV2kfu696Y0A 4T0LXWVvVpn8TEzGv3OsjXACRl5KGa0kk969alpyCO058Xvoibx7TdGOsyXLrs5i BDKsV67eOPkqSUHZUeQC/jcTHLQwxaBGJ16IodC4kV0PwquiniuM1tU+Vq4j9wIx ik40ifuqM80ACbcKciLjRMsITfgFc1x1o4aZ76IxnSw1ho1BZ/hPljkttW0ziI8j KRaD+V10Dfj6KbiNoQoBpz2U157njYzCzymyZla7/DOlV+4bVb15rc5/Qx5ROsCF QEof/0jmE1KhXr4gVJOoDDWAM+pqw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy: Received: from rtp-alcoop-nitro5.cisco.com (unknown [173.38.117.89]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 28552102E4; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:45:24 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Alissa Cooper In-Reply-To: <9722_1541485853_5BE1351D_9722_415_1_8B970F90C584EA4E97D5BAAC9172DBB84A256528@OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:45:21 -0500 Cc: Ben Campbell , "gen-art@ietf.org" , "sipcore@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter.all@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <154084621265.4963.11856647404649644525@ietfa.amsl.com> <26344_1541435406_5BE0700E_26344_158_14_8B970F90C584EA4E97D5BAAC9172DBB84A2558EC@OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <19441_1541437458_5BE07812_19441_188_1_8B970F90C584EA4E97D5BAAC9172DBB84A255B4D@OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <21449_1541440262_5BE08306_21449_405_1_8B970F90C584EA4E97D5BAAC9172DBB84A255C43@OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <9722_1541485853_5BE1351D_9722_415_1_8B970F90C584EA4E97D5BAAC9172DBB84A256528@OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> To: marianne.mohali@orange.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-05 X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 21:45:29 -0000 Vijay, thank you for your review. Marianne, thank you for your = responses. I entered a No Objection ballot. Alissa > On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:30 AM, marianne.mohali@orange.com wrote: >=20 > Ok no problem, I keep it in mind for a further update of the I-D. >=20 > Marianne >=20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Ben Campbell [mailto:ben@nostrum.com]=20 > Envoy=C3=A9 : mardi 6 novembre 2018 02:18 > =C3=80 : MOHALI Marianne TGI/OLN > Cc : gen-art@ietf.org; sipcore@ietf.org; IETF list; Vijay Gurbani; = draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter.all@ietf.org; A. Jean = Mahoney > Objet : Re: Genart last call review of = draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-05 >=20 > Editorial comment: >=20 > Since =E2=80=9Coriginating after CDIV=E2=80=9D is effectively used as = a compound adjective, it would be better to hyphenate it, as in = =E2=80=9Coriginating-after-CDIV session=E2=80=9D. That might also make = it less confusing to people unfamiliar with the terminology. >=20 > (Such a change can wait to be handled along with any IESG review = comments.) >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Ben. >=20 >> On Nov 6, 2018, at 12:57 AM, Vijay Gurbani = wrote: >>=20 >> Dear Marianne: OK, if the context of "originating after CDIV" is well = understood by the folks working in this area, then I am fine with = leaving it as is. >> Thanks. >> - vijay >>=20 >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 11:51 AM wrote: >> Dear Vijay, >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Actually, the =C2=AB originating =C2=BB is not qualifying something = by itself in this sentence, it has to be understood as a global wording = for the new defined session case which is "originating after CDIV" which = is different for an =E2=80=9Coriginating call leg=E2=80=9D. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> If you don=E2=80=99t mind, I would prefer to keep this wording as it = is because it is used although the I-D and quoted in the Introduction = section in the following sentence: >>=20 >> "The sessioncase-param parameter of the P-Served-User header field is = extended with the "orig-cdiv" parameter for this "originating after = CDIV" session case." >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Marianne >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> De : Vijay Gurbani [mailto:vijay.gurbani@gmail.com] Envoy=C3=A9 : = lundi 5=20 >> novembre 2018 18:14 =C3=80 : MOHALI Marianne TGI/OLN Cc : = gen-art@ietf.org;=20 >> sipcore@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org;=20 >> draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter.all@ietf.org; Jean=20 >> Mahoney; ben@nostrum.com Objet : Re: Genart last call review of=20 >> draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-05 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Dear Marianne: Thank you, again, for attending to my comment. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Note that you still have a dangling verb "originating" in the = sentence. The verb is not qualifying anything: >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> For this use case, this document creates a new parameter = ("orig-cdiv") for >> the originating after CDIV session case to be embedded in the = P-Served-User >> header field. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> In my email, I had suggested adding "call leg" after the = "originating" above. Otherwise, the sentence above is incomplete ... = "originating" what? >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 11:04 AM wrote: >>=20 >> Thanks Vijay for your last feedback. I=E2=80=99m fine with your = proposal and have updated the I-D accordingly (v-07): >> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-p >> arameter/ >>=20 >> BR, >> Marianne >>=20 >> De : Vijay Gurbani [mailto:vijay.gurbani@gmail.com] Envoy=C3=A9 : = lundi 5=20 >> novembre 2018 17:45 =C3=80 : MOHALI Marianne TGI/OLN Cc : = gen-art@ietf.org;=20 >> sipcore@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org;=20 >> draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter.all@ietf.org >> Objet : Re: Genart last call review of=20 >> draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-05 >>=20 >> Dear Marianne: Thank you for attending to my comments. >>=20 >> I am fine with the text you added for S1.3. >>=20 >> Regarding "secase" and "regstate" being existing parameters, ok. = However, since the I-D is defining the "orig-cdiv" parameter, I still = think it makes sense to mention this before S4. You already have the = text at the end of S1.3 (the current sentence appears ambiguous). Let = me suggest an edit: >>=20 >> OLD: >> For this use case, this document creates a new parameter for the >> originating after CDIV session case to be embedded in the P-Served- >> User header field. >>=20 >> NEW: >> For this use case, this document creates a new parameter = ("orig-cdiv") for the >> originating call leg to be embedded in the P-Served-User header = field. >> Thanks. >>=20 >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM wrote: >> Hi all, >>=20 >> Thanks Vijay for the GenArt review. >> I've just submitted a v-06 to address your comments and here is my = feedbacks: >> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-p >> arameter/ >>=20 >>> Minor: >>>=20 >>> - S1.3: I am not sure I follow the logic in the problem statement. =20= >>> Who is the "diverting" user? The user to who the call was = destined? =20 >>> If so, best to say that explicitly. (To be sure, I looked into=20 >>> rfc5502 as well, and it does not define "diverting" user either.) = A=20 >>> bit below (in S4), you use the term "served" user to refer to the=20= >>> diverting user. All in all, the terminology here could be refined. = =20 >>> I suspect that the "originating" user is the callee. >>>=20 >>> Concretely, I think that the first paragraph of S1.3 should be=20 >>> re-written, perhaps with a figure (?) to explain the call flow, or=20= >>> at least some context using Alice, Bob and Carol as the example in=20= >>> S7.1 does (I suspect that Carol is the "diverting" user here). >>=20 >> [MM] Indeed, I can see that for people not very aware of IETF and = 3GPP vocabulary for call diversion service, it can be confusing. I = prefer not to add a call flow in the problem statement section but I did = some updates in the wording and inserted the Alice, Bob and Carol users = for a better understanding. >>=20 >>> Nits, typos: >>>=20 >>> - S4, step 3: s/user an INVITE that/user as an INVITE that/ Also,=20= >>> the "secase" and "regstate" parameters are what you are = standardizing =20 >>> this I-D, as such you mention this before S4 so the reader knows = that =20 >>> these are the new parameters. Same for "orig-cdiv" parameter. >>=20 >> [MM] Nits is corrected. About your comment, actually, this I-D is = only standardizing "orig-cdiv" parameter. This is the reason why = "sescase" and "regstate" appear, as part of a normal session = establishment and before any call diversion while the new parameter can = appear only when this event occurs (as added by this I-D).. I hope it's = clearer for you. >>=20 >> I hope it's ok. >>=20 >> Best regards, >> Marianne >>=20 >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Vijay Gurbani [mailto:vijay.gurbani@gmail.com] Envoy=C3=A9 : = lundi 29=20 >> octobre 2018 21:50 =C3=80 : gen-art@ietf.org Cc : sipcore@ietf.org;=20= >> ietf@ietf.org;=20 >> draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter.all@ietf.org >> Objet : Genart last call review of=20 >> draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-05 >>=20 >> Reviewer: Vijay Gurbani >> Review result: Almost Ready >>=20 >> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area=20= >> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by=20= >> the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like=20= >> any other last call comments. >>=20 >> For more information, please see the FAQ at >>=20 >> . >>=20 >> Document: draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-?? >> Reviewer: Vijay K. Gurbani >> Review Date: 2018-10-29 >> IETF LC End Date: 2018-10-26 >> IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat >>=20 >> Summary: This draft is on the right track but has open issues, = described in the review. >>=20 >> Major issues: 0 >>=20 >> Minor issues: 1 >>=20 >> Nits/editorial comments: 1 >>=20 >> Minor: >>=20 >> - S1.3: I am not sure I follow the logic in the problem statement. =20= >> Who is the "diverting" user? The user to who the call was destined? = =20 >> If so, best to say that explicitly. (To be sure, I looked into=20 >> rfc5502 as well, and it does not define "diverting" user either.) A=20= >> bit below (in S4), you use the term "served" user to refer to the=20 >> diverting user. All in all, the terminology here could be refined. =20= >> I suspect that the "originating" user is the callee. >>=20 >> Concretely, I think that the first paragraph of S1.3 should be=20 >> re-written, perhaps with a figure (?) to explain the call flow, or = at=20 >> least some context using Alice, Bob and Carol as the example in S7.1=20= >> does (I suspect that Carol is the "diverting" user here). >>=20 >> Nits, typos: >>=20 >> - S4, step 3: s/user an INVITE that/user as an INVITE that/ Also, = the=20 >> "secase" and "regstate" parameters are what you are standardizing =20 >> this I-D, as such you mention this before S4 so the reader knows that = =20 >> these are the new parameters. 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From nobody Thu Dec 6 08:37:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC8D130E70 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 08:37:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MrE-uWwpei11 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 08:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from alum-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu (alum-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu [18.7.68.20]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60922130DDA for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 08:37:06 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 12074414-f67ff7000000583c-a4-5c095031215d Received: from outgoing-alum.mit.edu (outgoing-alum.mit.edu [18.7.68.33]) (using TLS with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by alum-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id FA.9A.22588.130590C5; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 11:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from PaulKyzivatsMBP.localdomain (c-24-62-227-142.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.62.227.142]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as pkyzivat@ALUM.MIT.EDU) by outgoing-alum.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id wB6Gb3rm029878 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 6 Dec 2018 11:37:04 -0500 To: Benjamin Kaduk References: <154408822794.3503.4205493528646048224.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Paul Kyzivat Cc: sipcore@ietf.org Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 11:37:03 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <154408822794.3503.4205493528646048224.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpileLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRYndR1DUM4IwxmPxbzGL5xplMFl9/bGJz YPJYsuQnk0fTmaPMAUxRXDYpqTmZZalF+nYJXBmTXlgUXGGtePjuFnMD4w6WLkZODgkBE4lb fX+Zuhi5OIQEDjJJ9M3cyQzhPGCSaOk8BlYlLFAl8eTadFYQW0RASWLx2RY2EFtIwEfi5qs3 jCA2m4CWxJxD/4HqOTiYBUQkzn00BDF5Bewltm+oB6lgEVCROHt+AtgUUYE0ib+dS8A6eQUE JU7OfAK2iVPAV2LGortMIDazgJnEvM0PmSFscYlbT+ZDxeUltr+dwzyBUWAWkvZZSFpmIWmZ haRlASPLKka5xJzSXN3cxMyc4tRk3eLkxLy81CJdC73czBK91JTSTYyQ4BXZwXjkpNwhRgEO RiUe3goHzhgh1sSy4srcQ4ySHExKorzdB9hjhPiS8lMqMxKLM+KLSnNSiw8xSnAwK4nwMuhx xAjxpiRWVqUW5cOkpDlYlMR5mU32RgkJpCeWpGanphakFsFkZTg4lCR478sC7REsSk1PrUjL zClBSDNxcIIM5wEaPt8fqIa3uCAxtzgzHSJ/ilGXY8/XphnMQix5+XmpUuK8Ig+ALhAAKcoo zYObA0s6rxjFgd4S5q0BGcUDTFhwk14BLWECWpKzhQlkSUkiQkqqgVHW9izTQ4vPF+6eS2BS K1sVmP/Zc5fz+/C5az/nWQRZR58OuVSb/rhtToVio8YRNf3QLXt6FW9/+m3/sPjCtuzwykaB FDG9zX+08xj4lxqIKjvtm98fUzfhga/+X4WdNgvX/LG1t4v3jd7V58dXu+xCQcVBAU6xff/E pH3CZM1+3oj6Z/dWV4mlOCPRUIu5qDgRAMThY1AVAwAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 16:37:08 -0000 On 12/6/18 4:23 AM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > sessioncase-param = "sescase" EQUAL ("orig"/"term")/ orig-cdiv > > It's quite possible I'm just confused about the ABNF, but why do we need the > grouping? IIUC, you are asking if the above: 1) sessioncase-param = "sescase" EQUAL ("orig"/"term")/ orig-cdiv is equivalent to: 2) sessioncase-param = "sescase" EQUAL "orig"/"term"/ orig-cdiv The answer is no, it isn't. Using more bracketing to show the syntax more clearly, (1) is equivalent to: 1a) sessioncase-param = ("sescase" EQUAL ("orig"/"term")) / orig-cdiv while (2) is equivalent to: 2a) sessioncase-param = ("sescase" EQUAL "orig") / "term" / orig-cdiv Thanks, Paul From nobody Fri Dec 7 10:38:18 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietf.org Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CC2130F8A; Fri, 7 Dec 2018 10:38:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: sipcore@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sipcore@ietf.org Message-ID: <154420788939.20415.11167151548348581150@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 10:38:09 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sipcore] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21.txt X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 18:38:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Session Initiation Protocol Core WG of the IETF. Title : Push Notification with the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Authors : Christer Holmberg Michael Arnold Filename : draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2018-12-07 Abstract: This document describes how a Push Notification Service (PNS) can be used to wake suspended Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) User Agents (UAs), using push notifications, for the UA to be able to send binding-refresh REGISTER requests and to receive receive incoming SIP requests. The document defines new SIP URI parameters and new feature-capability indicators that can be used in SIP messages to indicate support of the mechanism defined in this document, to exchange PNS information between the SIP User Agent (UA) and the SIP entity that will request push notifications towards the UA, and to trigger such push notification requests. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Fri, 7 Dec 2018 16:42:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1544222563; bh=dYkgfjaIx8DVaIxUxsOt4bItXsNBLHT0pyAdJdDyarA=; h=From:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:Cc:To:References; b=H6C+6XfU7F8Yj6R9AZ5csh5sTyXBjgRpGb/UP5nn94XudkxeKw4KnmpyNVsYz3HlC MTvkuopqWC2Qh5PsA1HvKPWjMoD79nxDMdeFQVF6RLQC0rsyHSWUWI56dl6UAGAg7U IjX+nO2RiwgRT6t84ANZP2DF+FDMCqfr1td8s51k= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-122-203-106.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.203.106] claimed to be [10.0.1.45] From: Ben Campbell Message-Id: <7BC33CDC-AB38-4F05-9CC4-E54CAFA91C81@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ACFCB023-C11E-4946-BB34-9C1190A10E7A"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 16:42:40 -0600 In-Reply-To: <9881355D-2913-4AAD-BAFA-E90E7E6BB1A5@ericsson.com> Cc: "sipcore@ietf.org" To: Christer Holmberg References: <9881355D-2913-4AAD-BAFA-E90E7E6BB1A5@ericsson.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new version: SIP Push-21 X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 22:42:50 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_ACFCB023-C11E-4946-BB34-9C1190A10E7A Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_22BEF437-4633-44BD-88EA-82ECC7E8AD07" --Apple-Mail=_22BEF437-4633-44BD-88EA-82ECC7E8AD07 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think this version is ready for IETF LC. I will request that shortly. I have a couple of minor editorial comments on the changes, which can be = handled along with any IETF LC feedback. Thanks! Ben. =C2=A76.1.1, last paragraph: s/give/given =C2=A710, 4th paragraph: s/=E2=80=9Ccomposed by=E2=80=9D/=E2=80=9Ccomposed= of" > On Dec 7, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Christer Holmberg = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Based on Ben=E2=80=99s AD review, and the comments I got from my = implementers regarding the Apple documentation, I have merged the = associated pull requests and submitted a new version (-21) of SIP Push. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Christer > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore = --Apple-Mail=_22BEF437-4633-44BD-88EA-82ECC7E8AD07 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I = think this version is ready for IETF LC. I will request that = shortly.

I have a = couple of minor editorial comments on the changes, which can be handled = along with any IETF LC feedback.

Thanks!

Ben.


=C2=A76.1.1, last paragraph: s/give/given

=C2=A710, 4th paragraph: = s/=E2=80=9Ccomposed by=E2=80=9D/=E2=80=9Ccomposed of"

On Dec 7, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi,
 
Based on Ben=E2=80=99s AD review, and the comments I got from = my implementers regarding the Apple documentation, I have merged the = associated pull requests and submitted a new version (-21) of SIP = Push.
 
Regards,
 
Christer
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Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2018-12-21. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document describes how a Push Notification Service (PNS) can be used to wake suspended Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) User Agents (UAs), using push notifications, for the UA to be able to send binding-refresh REGISTER requests and to receive receive incoming SIP requests. The document defines new SIP URI parameters and new feature-capability indicators that can be used in SIP messages to indicate support of the mechanism defined in this document, to exchange PNS information between the SIP User Agent (UA) and the SIP entity that will request push notifications towards the UA, and to trigger such push notification requests. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 23:07:42 -0000 Hi Benjamin, We had email exchanges about the syntax and how to make it aligned with wha= t has been designed (and is already implemented by networks). Paul is correct existing syntax 1) is equivalent to 1a) by following ABNF r= ules. The idea is to optimize the syntax so 1) should be the correct form. =20 Are you fine with that? BR, Marianne -----Message d'origine----- De=A0: sipcore [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Paul Kyzivat Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 6 d=E9cembre 2018 17:37 =C0=A0: Benjamin Kaduk Cc=A0: sipcore@ietf.org Objet=A0: Re: [sipcore] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore= -originating-cdiv-parameter-07: (with COMMENT) On 12/6/18 4:23 AM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > sessioncase-param =3D "sescase" EQUAL ("orig"/"term")/ orig-cd= iv >=20 > It's quite possible I'm just confused about the ABNF, but why do we need = the > grouping? IIUC, you are asking if the above: 1) sessioncase-param =3D "sescase" EQUAL ("orig"/"term")/ orig-cdiv is equivalent to: 2) sessioncase-param =3D "sescase" EQUAL "orig"/"term"/ orig-cdiv The answer is no, it isn't. Using more bracketing to show the syntax=20 more clearly, (1) is equivalent to: 1a) sessioncase-param =3D ("sescase" EQUAL ("orig"/"term")) / orig-cdiv while (2) is equivalent to: 2a) sessioncase-param =3D ("sescase" EQUAL "orig") / "term" / orig-cdiv Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. 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From nobody Sun Dec 9 15:21:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietf.org Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F8012875B; Sun, 9 Dec 2018 15:21:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: sipcore@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sipcore@ietf.org Message-ID: <154439766625.20469.12899603171465444768@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 15:21:06 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sipcore] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-08.txt X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 23:21:06 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Session Initiation Protocol Core WG of the IETF. Title : A P-Served-User Header Field Parameter for Originating CDIV session case in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Author : Marianne Mohali Filename : draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-08.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2018-12-09 Abstract: The P-Served-User header field was defined based on a requirement from 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) IMS (IP Multimedia Subsystem) in order to convey the identity of the served user, his/ her registration state and the session case that applies to this particular communication session and application invocation. A session case is metadata that captures the status of the session of a served user: whether the served user is registered or not, and whether the session originates or terminates with the served user. This document updates RFC5502 by defining a new P-Served-User header field parameter, "orig-cdiv". The parameter conveys the session case used by a proxy when handling an originating session after Call Diversion (CDIV) services have been invoked for the served user. This document also fixes the ABNF in RFC 5502 and provides more guidance for using the P-Served-User header field in IP networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 23:30:06 -0000 SGkgYWxsLA0KDQpJIGhhdmUgdXBkYXRlZCB0aGUgSS1EICh0byB2LTA4KSBieSB1cGRhdGluZyB0 aGUgQWJzdHJhY3QgdG8gbWFrZSBpdCBtb3JlIHVuZGVyc3RhbmRhYmxlIGZvciB1bmF3YXJlIHJl YWRlcnMuDQpJIGhhdmUgYWxzbyBjaGFuZ2VkIHRoZSAib3JpZ2luYXRpbmcgYWZ0ZXIgQ0RJViIg aW50byAib3JpZ2luYXRpbmctYWZ0ZXItQ0RJViIgdG8gbWFrZSBpdCBsZXNzIGNvbmZ1c2luZyB0 byBwZW9wbGUgdW5mYW1pbGlhciB3aXRoIHRoaXMgdGVybWlub2xvZ3kgKHVzZWQgYXMgYW4gYWRq ZWN0aXZlIGluIHRoZSBkb2N1bWVudCkuDQoNClRoZSBJRVRGIGRhdGF0cmFja2VyIHN0YXR1cyBw YWdlIGZvciB0aGlzIGRyYWZ0IGlzOg0KaHR0cHM6Ly9kYXRhdHJhY2tlci5pZXRmLm9yZy9kb2Mv ZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1zaXBjb3JlLW9yaWdpbmF0aW5nLWNkaXYtcGFyYW1ldGVyLw0KDQpCUiwNCk1h cmlhbm5lDQoNCi0tLS0tTWVzc2FnZSBkJ29yaWdpbmUtLS0tLQ0KRGXCoDogU3BlbmNlciBEYXdr aW5zIFttYWlsdG86c3BlbmNlcmRhd2tpbnMuaWV0ZkBnbWFpbC5jb21dIA0KRW52b3nDqcKgOiBt YXJkaSA0IGTDqWNlbWJyZSAyMDE4IDA1OjQwDQrDgMKgOiBUaGUgSUVTRw0KQ2PCoDogZHJhZnQt aWV0Zi1zaXBjb3JlLW9yaWdpbmF0aW5nLWNkaXYtcGFyYW1ldGVyQGlldGYub3JnOyBKZWFuIE1h aG9uZXk7IHNpcGNvcmUtY2hhaXJzQGlldGYub3JnOyBtYWhvbmV5QG5vc3RydW0uY29tOyBzaXBj b3JlQGlldGYub3JnDQpPYmpldMKgOiBTcGVuY2VyIERhd2tpbnMnIE5vIE9iamVjdGlvbiBvbiBk cmFmdC1pZXRmLXNpcGNvcmUtb3JpZ2luYXRpbmctY2Rpdi1wYXJhbWV0ZXItMDc6ICh3aXRoIENP TU1FTlQpDQoNClNwZW5jZXIgRGF3a2lucyBoYXMgZW50ZXJlZCB0aGUgZm9sbG93aW5nIGJhbGxv dCBwb3NpdGlvbiBmb3INCmRyYWZ0LWlldGYtc2lwY29yZS1vcmlnaW5hdGluZy1jZGl2LXBhcmFt ZXRlci0wNzogTm8gT2JqZWN0aW9uDQoNCldoZW4gcmVzcG9uZGluZywgcGxlYXNlIGtlZXAgdGhl IHN1YmplY3QgbGluZSBpbnRhY3QgYW5kIHJlcGx5IHRvIGFsbA0KZW1haWwgYWRkcmVzc2VzIGlu Y2x1ZGVkIGluIHRoZSBUbyBhbmQgQ0MgbGluZXMuIChGZWVsIGZyZWUgdG8gY3V0IHRoaXMNCmlu dHJvZHVjdG9yeSBwYXJhZ3JhcGgsIGhvd2V2ZXIuKQ0KDQoNClBsZWFzZSByZWZlciB0byBodHRw czovL3d3dy5pZXRmLm9yZy9pZXNnL3N0YXRlbWVudC9kaXNjdXNzLWNyaXRlcmlhLmh0bWwNCmZv ciBtb3JlIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIGFib3V0IElFU0cgRElTQ1VTUyBhbmQgQ09NTUVOVCBwb3NpdGlv bnMuDQoNCg0KVGhlIGRvY3VtZW50LCBhbG9uZyB3aXRoIG90aGVyIGJhbGxvdCBwb3NpdGlvbnMs IGNhbiBiZSBmb3VuZCBoZXJlOg0KaHR0cHM6Ly9kYXRhdHJhY2tlci5pZXRmLm9yZy9kb2MvZHJh ZnQtaWV0Zi1zaXBjb3JlLW9yaWdpbmF0aW5nLWNkaXYtcGFyYW1ldGVyLw0KDQoNCg0KLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLQ0KQ09NTUVOVDoNCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0NCg0KSXQgc2VlbXMgdG8gbWUgdGhhdCB0 aGUgdGl0bGUgYW5kIGFic3RyYWN0IGFyZW4ndCBwYXJ0aWN1bGFybHkgdXNlZnVsIGluDQpoZWxw aW5nIGEgcmVhZGVyIGRldGVybWluZSB3aGV0aGVyIHRoaXMgaXMgYSBkb2N1bWVudCB0aGF0J3Mg dXNlZnVsIHRvIHJlYWQuDQoNClRoZSBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbiBpbiB0aGUgSW50cm9kdWN0aW9uIGhl bHBzIGEgTE9UIChzdGFydGluZyB3aXRoIHRoZSBwb2ludCB0aGF0DQp0aGlzIHdvcmsgaXMgZG9u ZSBpbiByZXNwb25zZSB0byByZXF1aXJlbWVudHMgZnJvbSAzR1BQKS4gSXMgaXQgcG9zc2libGUg dGhhdA0KcGFydCBvZiB0aGF0IGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIGNvdWxkIGFwcGVhciBpbiB0aGUgdGl0bGUg YW5kIGFic3RyYWN0LCB0byBtYWtlIHRoaXMNCmRvY3VtZW50IG1vcmUgYWNjZXNzaWJsZT8NCg0K DQoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fXwoKQ2UgbWVzc2FnZSBldCBzZXMgcGllY2VzIGpvaW50ZXMgcGV1dmVudCBjb250 ZW5pciBkZXMgaW5mb3JtYXRpb25zIGNvbmZpZGVudGllbGxlcyBvdSBwcml2aWxlZ2llZXMgZXQg bmUgZG9pdmVudCBkb25jCnBhcyBldHJlIGRpZmZ1c2VzLCBleHBsb2l0ZXMgb3UgY29waWVzIHNh bnMgYXV0b3Jpc2F0aW9uLiBTaSB2b3VzIGF2ZXogcmVjdSBjZSBtZXNzYWdlIHBhciBlcnJldXIs IHZldWlsbGV6IGxlIHNpZ25hbGVyCmEgbCdleHBlZGl0ZXVyIGV0IGxlIGRldHJ1aXJlIGFpbnNp IHF1ZSBsZXMgcGllY2VzIGpvaW50ZXMuIExlcyBtZXNzYWdlcyBlbGVjdHJvbmlxdWVzIGV0YW50 IHN1c2NlcHRpYmxlcyBkJ2FsdGVyYXRpb24sCk9yYW5nZSBkZWNsaW5lIHRvdXRlIHJlc3BvbnNh YmlsaXRlIHNpIGNlIG1lc3NhZ2UgYSBldGUgYWx0ZXJlLCBkZWZvcm1lIG91IGZhbHNpZmllLiBN ZXJjaS4KClRoaXMgbWVzc2FnZSBhbmQgaXRzIGF0dGFjaG1lbnRzIG1heSBjb250YWluIGNvbmZp ZGVudGlhbCBvciBwcml2aWxlZ2VkIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIHRoYXQgbWF5IGJlIHByb3RlY3RlZCBi eSBsYXc7CnRoZXkgc2hvdWxkIG5vdCBiZSBkaXN0cmlidXRlZCwgdXNlZCBvciBjb3BpZWQgd2l0 aG91dCBhdXRob3Jpc2F0aW9uLgpJZiB5b3UgaGF2ZSByZWNlaXZlZCB0aGlzIGVtYWlsIGluIGVy cm9yLCBwbGVhc2Ugbm90aWZ5IHRoZSBzZW5kZXIgYW5kIGRlbGV0ZSB0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UgYW5k IGl0cyBhdHRhY2htZW50cy4KQXMgZW1haWxzIG1heSBiZSBhbHRlcmVkLCBPcmFuZ2UgaXMgbm90 IGxpYWJsZSBmb3IgbWVzc2FnZXMgdGhhdCBoYXZlIGJlZW4gbW9kaWZpZWQsIGNoYW5nZWQgb3Ig ZmFsc2lmaWVkLgpUaGFuayB5b3UuCgo= From nobody Sun Dec 9 16:24:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC456128CF2 for ; 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Sun, 9 Dec 2018 19:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.9.2) with ESMTP id wBA0OeYI025355; Sun, 9 Dec 2018 19:24:40 -0500 Received: from kduck.kaduk.org (24-107-191-124.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.191.124]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id wBA0ObqV006994 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 9 Dec 2018 19:24:39 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 18:24:37 -0600 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: marianne.mohali@orange.com Cc: Paul Kyzivat , "sipcore@ietf.org" Message-ID: <20181210002436.GJ65741@kduck.kaduk.org> References: <154408822794.3503.4205493528646048224.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4635_1544396857_5C0DA039_4635_2_1_8B970F90C584EA4E97D5BAAC9172DBB84A29C184@OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4635_1544396857_5C0DA039_4635_2_1_8B970F90C584EA4E97D5BAAC9172DBB84A29C184@OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprFKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrOu9iTfG4MV9CYttzfuYLL7+2MTm wOSxZMlPJo+WZyfZApiiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDJuHFMq+C9W8aDjO3MD43mhLkZODgkBE4mL Tx6zdzFycQgJrGGSmLlsOSuEs4FR4tuH41DOHSaJC6tXsYG0sAioSLy8vZARxGYDshu6LzOD 2CICchK9d2azgNjMAhESS47fAosLC1RJPLk2nRXE5gVa93DvOrBeIYE/jBILrodDxAUlTs58 AtWrI7Fz6x2gXRxAtrTE8n8cEGF5ieats5lB7uEUaGGUaH33kR2kRhTohs8LBCYwCs5CMmkW kkmzECbNQjJpASPLKkbZlNwq3dzEzJzi1GTd4uTEvLzUIl0zvdzMEr3UlNJNjKCgZndR3sH4 ss/7EKMAB6MSD29AE2+MEGtiWXFl7iFGSQ4mJVHera+5YoT4kvJTKjMSizPii0pzUosPMUpw MCuJ8OqmAZXzpiRWVqUW5cOkpDlYlMR5/4g8jhYSSE8sSc1OTS1ILYLJanBwCHQ8WXWBUYol Lz8vVUmClxUY1UKCRanpqRVpmTklCKVMHJwgi3iAFh3YCLKouCAxtzgzHSJ/ilGX483cHzOY hcAGSYnzLvcEKhIAKcoozYObA0pSEtn7a14xigO9KMyrCjKKB5jg4Ca9AlrCBLQkZwsTyJKS RISUVANjy5P+GwL6N1fPmvre2t+xbOGEV8/SfyxjXnL21ZSH5zfp7vGJn6rHdKupoXLeZpbJ EgHbir7rVi9l09t7gdlTvuRe3t57DaY6V4wmGX+0kXys2v522fe9l/JCg87t+yC4/4zeNQav 0z+eNF464H4+wTEhaGrJ4ysVLPnlvX9eLt7V23LAZMuGh0osxRmJhlrMRcWJAFs71/0tAwAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 00:24:48 -0000 That is fine for me. To be clear, I had no objection to the original, and I was just confused. The follow-up discussion helped me, and I am not requesting a chamge to the document for my sake. -Benjamin On Sun, Dec 09, 2018 at 11:07:36PM +0000, marianne.mohali@orange.com wrote: > Hi Benjamin, > > We had email exchanges about the syntax and how to make it aligned with what has been designed (and is already implemented by networks). > Paul is correct existing syntax 1) is equivalent to 1a) by following ABNF rules. > The idea is to optimize the syntax so 1) should be the correct form. > > Are you fine with that? > > BR, > Marianne > > -----Message d'origine----- > De: sipcore [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Paul Kyzivat > Envoy: jeudi 6 dcembre 2018 17:37 > : Benjamin Kaduk > Cc: sipcore@ietf.org > Objet: Re: [sipcore] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: (with COMMENT) > > On 12/6/18 4:23 AM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > > sessioncase-param = "sescase" EQUAL ("orig"/"term")/ orig-cdiv > > > > It's quite possible I'm just confused about the ABNF, but why do we need the > > grouping? > > IIUC, you are asking if the above: > > 1) sessioncase-param = "sescase" EQUAL ("orig"/"term")/ orig-cdiv > > is equivalent to: > > 2) sessioncase-param = "sescase" EQUAL "orig"/"term"/ orig-cdiv > > The answer is no, it isn't. Using more bracketing to show the syntax > more clearly, (1) is equivalent to: > > 1a) sessioncase-param = ("sescase" EQUAL ("orig"/"term")) / orig-cdiv > > while (2) is equivalent to: > > 2a) sessioncase-param = ("sescase" EQUAL "orig") / "term" / orig-cdiv > > Thanks, > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. 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Jean Mahoney" , SIPCORE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001bd289057cafaead" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:07:50 -0000 --0000000000001bd289057cafaead Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Marianne, On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 5:30 PM wrote: > Hi all, > > I have updated the I-D (to v-08) by updating the Abstract to make it more > understandable for unaware readers. > I have also changed the "originating after CDIV" into > "originating-after-CDIV" to make it less confusing to people unfamiliar > with this terminology (used as an adjective in the document). > This wasn't a huge change, but it seemed like a huge improvement - thank you for that! Spencer > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-para= meter/ > > BR, > Marianne > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Spencer Dawkins [mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com] > Envoy=C3=A9 : mardi 4 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 05:40 > =C3=80 : The IESG > Cc : draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter@ietf.org; Jean > Mahoney; sipcore-chairs@ietf.org; mahoney@nostrum.com; sipcore@ietf.org > Objet : Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on > draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: (with COMMENT) > > Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. 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Is it possible > that > part of that information could appear in the title and abstract, to make > this > document more accessible? > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________= ________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez > recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages > electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme o= u > falsifie. 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Hi, Marianne,=C2=A0

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 5:30 PM <marianne.mohali@orange.com> wrote:
Hi all,

I have updated the I-D (to v-08) by updating the Abstract to make it more u= nderstandable for unaware readers.
I have also changed the "originating after CDIV" into "origi= nating-after-CDIV" to make it less confusing to people unfamiliar with= this terminology (used as an adjective in the document).
<= div>
This wasn't a huge change, but it seemed like a huge= improvement - thank you for that!

Spencer
=C2=A0
The IETF d= atatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.i= etf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter/

BR,
Marianne

-----Message d'origine-----
De=C2=A0: Spencer Dawkins [mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com]
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: mardi 4 d=C3=A9cembre 2018 05:40
=C3=80=C2=A0: The IESG
Cc=C2=A0: draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter@ie= tf.org; Jean Mahoney; sipcore-chairs@ietf.org; mahoney@nostrum.com; sipcore@ietf.org
Objet=C2=A0: Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore-origin= ating-cdiv-parameter-07: (with COMMENT)

Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-07: No Objection

When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
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COMMENT:
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It seems to me that the title and abstract aren't particularly useful i= n
helping a reader determine whether this is a document that's useful to = read.

The information in the Introduction helps a LOT (starting with the point th= at
this work is done in response to requirements from 3GPP). Is it possible th= at
part of that information could appear in the title and abstract, to make th= is
document more accessible?



___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________

Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc
pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler
a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les message= s electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration,
Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci.

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--0000000000001bd289057cafaead-- From nobody Tue Dec 11 06:36:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietf.org Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B672F126F72; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:36:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: ben@nostrum.com, Jean Mahoney , sipcore-chairs@ietf.org, sipcore@ietf.org, mahoney@nostrum.com, The IESG , draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <154453899867.13171.353653502813770314.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:36:38 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sipcore] Document Action: 'A P-Served-User Header Field Parameter for Originating CDIV session case in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-08.txt) X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 14:36:39 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'A P-Served-User Header Field Parameter for Originating CDIV session case in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' (draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-08.txt) as Informational RFC This document is the product of the Session Initiation Protocol Core Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adam Roach, Alexey Melnikov and Ben Campbell. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter/ Technical Summary Within 3GPP-specified mobile networks, the SIP header field P-Served-User [RFC5502] conveys the identity of the served user, his/her registration state, and the session case between a SIP proxy known as a Serving Call Session Control Function (S-CSCF) and a SIP Application Server (AS). Any calls that a user places (originates) or receives (terminates) pass through the user's assigned S-CSCF. Each user has a user profile that informs the S-CSCF of which action to perform depending on the session direction (originating or terminating) and the user state (registered or not). RFC 5502 covers basic originating and terminating session cases, but does not cover the case of call diversion services (CDIV) when the session is re-targeted. Without a session case for originating after CDIV, a S-CSCF cannot trigger an originating service for the diverting user nor can an AS execute the procedures for this particular session case. This document defines a new P-Served-User header field parameter, "orig-cdiv", which conveys the session case of an originating session after CDIV services have been invoked. This document also fixes the ABNF in RFC5502 and provides more guidance for using the P-Served-User header field. Working Group Summary This document started out in the DISPATCH working group. During discussions on list, the DISPATCH working group found issues with RFC 5502's ABNF for the P-Served-User header field, so this draft captures that feedback. While this draft was being discussed in DISPATCH, the SIPCORE charter was expanded slightly, and the DISPATCH chairs felt that this document should go SIPCORE to see if the WG wanted to take it on (originally the draft was going to go the AD-sponsored route). The WG accepted the work with lots of +1s to adopt. It received thorough feedback from a few of the participants, all of which was included. Document Quality This addition to the P-Served-User header field will be implemented in 3GPP mobile networks, so multiple vendors will be implementing this draft. The document's Acknowledgments section thanks reviewers who had significant feedback, and all feedback was addressed. Since the document updates the Header Fields sub-registry of the SIP Parameters registry by adding a reference, the designated expert Adam Roach looked at it and had no issues. Personnel Document Shepherd: Jean Mahoney Responsible Area Director: Ben Campbell From nobody Wed Dec 19 07:49:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietf.org Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562FD129508; Wed, 19 Dec 2018 07:49:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stewart Bryant To: Cc: sipcore@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154523455825.2864.6694264562010996848@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 07:49:18 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sipcore] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21 X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 15:49:19 -0000 Reviewer: Stewart Bryant Review result: Ready with Nits I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21 Reviewer: Stewart Bryant Review Date: 2018-12-19 IETF LC End Date: 2018-12-21 IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat Summary: A well written document with some minor points that could use a little attention. Major issues: None Minor issues: In Figure 1 the following is included: REGISTER sip:alice@example.com SIP/2.0 Via: SIP/2.0/TCP alicemobile.example.com:5060;branch=z9hG4bKnashds7 Max-Forwards: 70 To: Alice From: Alice ;tag=456248 Call-ID: 843817637684230@998sdasdh09 CSeq: 1826 REGISTER Contact: Expires: 7200 Content-Length: 0 SB> However I don't at this stage of the text see the relationship between the packet flow digram and the text that follows. ========= Contact: IESG (iesg@ietf.org) SB> Is the whole IESG the most appropriate first point of contact? ========= Nits/editorial comments: Presumably the references to RFC XXXX will be replaced by RFC but that does not seem to be noted in the text ======== As dicussed in [RFC4320] and [RFC4321], non-INVITE transactions must SB> Typo s/dicussed/discussed/ ======== Example: pn-prid = 00fc13adff78512 For more information about the APNs Topic and device token: SB> Is the following part of the example? 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Thu, 20 Dec 2018 09:01:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mahoney@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1545318101; bh=6QzgNnwCE0AoBHXAc2LEGkOXV3WluY3i0NoLPTy6cJg=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ssN0NCSXL6cKlKU+xpjQZLd48rUil7rJMLqYmLSEuXsME71zkWEWFt24wkE12Qbq6 YC7ok0My37M1Z6BdhuDREUZmppJV0UEL1qkZOdN93k3rh9XmqlAhdqFB1fIjQlB/fJ v3lqIdHeEt1WnrNrcGf6mrj30f6gvtNVmHmcIqdc= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.18.66] claimed to be mutabilis-2.local To: sipcore@ietf.org, Christer Holmberg References: From: "A. Jean Mahoney" Message-ID: <7b140c74-74c1-ee1e-6e4e-fdf9a425ca37@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 09:01:39 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new: draft-holmberg-sipcore-rfc4028bis-00 X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 15:01:48 -0000 Hi Christer, Thanks for submitting the draft. I've put it in a "Candidate for WG adoption" state by exercising a new button added to Datatracker. We'll push more Datatracker buttons to make it into a WG draft since there were no objections to replacing draft-ietf-sipcore-sessiontimer-race with a rfc4028bis draft. I have current contact info for Steve Donovan, so I'll reach out to him. I will also work on getting JDR's current contact info. Thanks! Jean On 12/20/18 7:36 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > > Hi, > > I have submitted the zero version (-00) of > draft-holmberg-sipcore-rfc4028bis. > > The text is more or less a copy of RFC4028, with “administrative” > changes done to the boiler plate etc, in order to pass the Idnits > test. I have done no changes to the technical content. > > A couple of questions: > > Q1: Does someone have the contact information of Jonathan R and Steven > D, so that we can contact them and ask whether they still wish to be > listed as co-authors (and provide their current affiliation and > address information)? > > Q2: How much do need to work on the individual draft before we can > adopt it as draft-sipcore? 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Jean Mahoney" Message-ID: <35fc2770-ba47-e158-d702-d1c3769891b2@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 09:41:21 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new: draft-holmberg-sipcore-rfc4028bis-00 X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 15:41:40 -0000 Hi Christer, I have pre-approved draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis, please submit at your convenience. Thanks! Jean On 12/20/18 9:08 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > Hi, > >> Thanks for submitting the draft. I've put it in a "Candidate for WG >> adoption" state by exercising a new button added to Datatracker. We'll >> push more Datatracker buttons to make it into a WG draft since there >> were no objections to replacing draft-ietf-sipcore-sessiontimer-race >> with a rfc4028bis draft. > > Ok, so I assume that means I will just have to wait for you to tell me to submit version -00 of draft-sipcore __ > >> I have current contact info for Steve Donovan, so I'll reach out to him. I will also work on getting JDR's current contact info. > > Thank You! > > Regards, > > Christer > > > > > > On 12/20/18 7:36 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have submitted the zero version (-00) of > > draft-holmberg-sipcore-rfc4028bis. > > > > The text is more or less a copy of RFC4028, with “administrative” > > changes done to the boiler plate etc, in order to pass the Idnits > > test. I have done no changes to the technical content. > > > > A couple of questions: > > > > Q1: Does someone have the contact information of Jonathan R and Steven > > D, so that we can contact them and ask whether they still wish to be > > listed as co-authors (and provide their current affiliation and > > address information)? > > > > Q2: How much do need to work on the individual draft before we can > > adopt it as draft-sipcore? 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I have done no changes to the technical content. >=20 > A couple of questions: >=20 > Q1: Does someone have the contact information of Jonathan R and Steven = D, so that we can contact them and ask whether they still wish to be = listed as co-authors (and provide their current affiliation and address = information)? jdrosen@jdrosen.net srdonovan@usdonovans.com or = steve.donovan@oracle.com >=20 > Q2: How much do need to work on the individual draft before we can = adopt it as draft-sipcore? We already agreed that we are going to do the = bis, so=E2=80=A6 I will leave that to the chairs=E2=80=99 discretion. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Christer --Apple-Mail=_1E6AA931-DBD7-4493-B61E-9B8A9E4F60A5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On Dec 20, 2018, at 7:36 AM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi,
 
I = have submitted the zero version (-00) of = draft-holmberg-sipcore-rfc4028bis.
 
The text is more or less a copy of RFC4028, with = =E2=80=9Cadministrative=E2=80=9D changes done to the boiler plate etc, = in order to pass the Idnits test. I have done no changes to the = technical content.
 
A = couple of questions:
 
Q1: Does someone have the contact information of = Jonathan R and Steven D, so that we can contact them and ask whether = they still wish to be listed as co-authors (and provide their current = affiliation and address = information)?

jdrosen@jdrosen.net


 
Q2: = How much do need to work on the individual draft before we can adopt it = as draft-sipcore? We already agreed that we are going to do the bis, = so=E2=80=A6

I will leave that to the chairs=E2=80=99 = discretion.

 
Regards,
 
Christer

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ESMTP id 6CD851292F1; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 01:13:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: sipcore@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sipcore@ietf.org Message-ID: <154538362537.20390.8391681350730330076@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 01:13:45 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sipcore] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 09:13:46 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Session Initiation Protocol Core WG of the IETF. Title : Session Timers in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Authors : Christer Holmberg Steve Donovan Jonathan Rosenberg Filename : draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-00.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2018-12-21 Abstract: This document defines an extension to the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP). This extension allows for a periodic refresh of SIP sessions through a re-INVITE or UPDATE request. The refresh allows both user agents and proxies to determine whether the SIP session is still active. The extension defines two new header fields: Session- Expires, which conveys the lifetime of the session, and Min-SE, which conveys the minimum allowed value for the session timer. 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Jean Mahoney" Message-ID: <344614fd-add1-3f03-2f33-b2a4f5c9c657@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 07:41:59 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <369949EE-09C8-44D5-BA0B-0C10C1AA03D8@ericsson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new: draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-00 && GitHub repo X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 13:42:05 -0000 Hi everyone, On 12/21/18 3:20 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > Hi, > > I have submitted version -00 of draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis. > > The content is identical to the draft-holmberg-00 draft I submitted > yesterday – including the affiliations and addresses of the original > authors (will be fixed as soon as we hear back from them). > > I have also created a GitHub repo for the work: > > https://github.com/cdh4u/draft-sipcore-4028bis > > Feel free to use it for pull requests, to raise issues etc. When do DO > raise an issue, please also provide some background. Also, if there is > an associated e-mail thread on the list, please copy the mail archive > link to the thread. Working only in Github is ok for nits and typos. However, when you do raise a technical issue, bring it up on list _first_ so there is a mail archive link to use in GitHub. Please refrain from having technical discussions only in GitHub. SIPCORE work is always confirmed on the mailing list. Thanks! 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I agree with everything Jean said. Still, GitHub is a good place to at least document issues (even technical o= nes), so we can keep track of them. But, non trivial issues shall of course be discussed on the mailing list. Regards, Christer ________________________________ From: sipcore on behalf of A. Jean Mahoney Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 3:41 PM To: sipcore@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new: draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-00 && GitHu= b repo Hi everyone, On 12/21/18 3:20 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > Hi, > > I have submitted version -00 of draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis. > > The content is identical to the draft-holmberg-00 draft I submitted > yesterday =96 including the affiliations and addresses of the original > authors (will be fixed as soon as we hear back from them). > > I have also created a GitHub repo for the work: > > https://github.com/cdh4u/draft-sipcore-4028bis [https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/9333380?s=3D400&v=3D4] cdh4u/draft-sipcore-4028bis github.com Contribute to cdh4u/draft-sipcore-4028bis development by creating an accoun= t on GitHub. > > Feel free to use it for pull requests, to raise issues etc. When do DO > raise an issue, please also provide some background. Also, if there is > an associated e-mail thread on the list, please copy the mail archive > link to the thread. Working only in Github is ok for nits and typos. However, when you do raise a technical issue, bring it up on list _first_ so there is a mail archive link to use in GitHub. Please refrain from having technical discussions only in GitHub. SIPCORE work is always confirmed on the mailing list. Thanks! Jean, as chair, who is happy to discuss with the WG creating/refining processes regarding GitHub. > > Merry Whatever-You-Celebrate-Or-Do-Not-Celebrate to everyone! :) Back at ya! :-) > > Regards, > > Christer > > > > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore > _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore --_000_AM6PR07MB5621FB9D1599B66FF5CAE14E93B80AM6PR07MB5621eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Hi,

I agree with everything Jean said.

Still, GitHub is a good place to at least document issues (even techni= cal ones), so we can keep track of them.

But, non trivial issues shall of course be discussed on the mailing li= st.

Regards,

Christer

From: sipcore <sipcore-b= ounces@ietf.org> on behalf of A. Jean Mahoney <mahoney@nostrum.com>= ;
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 3:41 PM
To: sipcore@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [sipcore] Draft new: draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis-00 &= amp;& GitHub repo
 
Hi everyone,


On 12/21/18 3:20 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have submitted version -00 of draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4028bis.
>
> The content is identical to the draft-holmberg-00 draft I submitted > yesterday =96 including the affiliations and addresses of the original=
> authors (will be fixed as soon as we hear back from them).
>
> I have also created a GitHub repo for the work:
>
> https://github.com/cdh4u/draft-sipcore-4028bis
github.com
Contribute to cdh4u/draft-sipcore-4028bis development by creating an accoun= t on GitHub.


>
> Feel free to use it for pull requests, to raise issues etc. When do DO=
> raise an issue, please also provide some background. Also, if there is=
> an associated e-mail thread on the list, please copy the mail archive =
> link to the thread.

Working only in Github is ok for nits and typos. However, when you do
raise a technical issue, bring it up on list _first_ so there is a mail archive link to use in GitHub.

Please refrain from having technical discussions only in GitHub. SIPCORE work is always confirmed on the mailing list.

Thanks!

Jean, as chair, who is happy to discuss with the WG creating/refining
processes regarding GitHub.

>
> Merry Whatever-You-Celebrate-Or-Do-Not-Celebrate to everyone! :)

Back at ya!  :-)


>
> Regards,
>
> Christer
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sipcore mailing list
> sipcore@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore
>

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On Dec 20, 2018, at 9:37 AM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

>   Example: pn-prid =3D 00fc13adff78512
> 
>   For more information about the APNs Topic = and device token:
> 
> SB> Is the following part = of the example? If so it could usefully be delimited
> SB> as = such, otherwise, I don't understand why it is not a normal document
> SB> = reference.
> 
>   https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Netwo= rkingI
>   = nternet/Conceptual/RemoteNotificationsPG/CommunicatingwithAPNs.html
> 
> SB> Similarly in the following section
 
The link reference is not part of the example. Perhaps I = could place to reference before the examples, to make that more = clear?
 
Are you suggesting that I add the link to the reference = section, similar to document references?


One common approachto this  is to add a = URL reference section after the normal references.

Thanks!

Ben.
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Please submit a new revision when you are ready. Since these changes look minor and not likely to be controversial, I am = going to go ahead and create a ballot for this. It will likely end up on = the 10 January telechat. Thanks! Ben. > On Dec 21, 2018, at 2:50 AM, Christer Holmberg = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Based on the gen-art comments from Stewart, I have created a pull = request for the suggested changes. >=20 > https://github.com/cdh4u/draft-sip-push/pull/31 = >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Christer >=20 > From: Christer Holmberg > > Date: Thursday, 20 December 2018 at 17.37 > To: Stewart Bryant >, "gen-art@ietf.org = " > > Cc: "sipcore@ietf.org " >, "iesg@ietf.org " = >, = "draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push.all@ietf.org = " = > > Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of = draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21 > Resent-From: > > Resent-To: Christer Holmberg >, >, "A. Mahoney" = >, Brian Rosen = >, Ben Campbell = >, "adam@nostrum.com = " >, = >, Brian Rosen = > > Resent-Date: Thursday, 20 December 2018 at 17.37 >=20 > Hi Stewart, >=20 > Thank You for the review! Please see inline. >=20 > >Summary: A well written document with some minor points that could = use a little > >attention. > > > >Major issues: None > > > >Minor issues: > > > >In Figure 1 the following is included: > > > > REGISTER sip:alice@example.com SIP/2.0 > > Via: SIP/2.0/TCP alicemobile.example.com:5060 = ;branch=3Dz9hG4bKnashds7 > > Max-Forwards: 70 > > To: Alice > > > From: Alice >;tag=3D456248 > > Call-ID: 843817637684230@998sdasdh09 > > CSeq: 1826 REGISTER > > Contact: ; > > pn-provider=3Dacme; > > pn-param=3Dacme-param; > > pn-prid=3DZTY4ZDJlMzODE1NmUgKi0K> > > Expires: 7200 > > Content-Length: 0 > > > > SB> However I don't at this stage of the text see the relationship = between the > > SB> packet flow digram and the text that follows. >=20 > I could add the following: >=20 > =E2=80=9CBelow is an example of a SIP REGISTER request in Figure 1.=E2=80= =9D >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > > Contact: IESG (iesg@ietf.org ) > > > > SB> Is the whole IESG the most appropriate first point of contact? >=20 > That is what I was told :) >=20 > Note that I have used it also for other documents. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > >Nits/editorial comments: > >Presumably the references to RFC XXXX will be replaced by RFC but > >that does not seem to be noted in the text >=20 > I will add a note to the RFC editor about that. >=20 > =E2=80=9C[RFC EDITOR NOTE: Please replace RFCXXXX with the RFC = number of this document.]=E2=80=9D >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > > SB> As dicussed in [RFC4320] and [RFC4321], non-INVITE transactions = must > > SB> Typo s/dicussed/discussed/ >=20 > I will fix as suggested. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > > Example: pn-prid =3D 00fc13adff78512 > > > > For more information about the APNs Topic and device token: > > > > SB> Is the following part of the example? If so it could usefully be = delimited > > SB> as such, otherwise, I don't understand why it is not a normal = document > > SB> reference. > > > > = https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/NetworkingI = > > = nternet/Conceptual/RemoteNotificationsPG/CommunicatingwithAPNs.html > > > > SB> Similarly in the following section >=20 > The link reference is not part of the example. Perhaps I could place = to reference before the examples, to make that more clear? >=20 > Are you suggesting that I add the link to the reference section, = similar to document references? >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Christer --Apple-Mail=_3D568322-77D9-49F0-832D-2FFD50EE9FCE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 This = looks good to me. Please submit a new revision when you are ready.

Since these changes look = minor and not likely to be controversial, I am going to go ahead and = create a ballot for this. It will likely end up on the 10 January = telechat. 

Thanks!

Ben.

On Dec 21, 2018, at 2:50 AM, = Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi,
 
Based on the gen-art comments from Stewart, I have created a = pull request for the suggested changes.
 
 
Regards,
 
Christer
 
From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
Date: Thursday, 20 December = 2018 at 17.37
To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>, "gen-art@ietf.org" <gen-art@ietf.org>
Cc: "sipcore@ietf.org" <sipcore@ietf.org>, "iesg@ietf.org" <iesg@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push.all@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart = last call review of draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21
Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org>
Resent-To: Christer Holmberg = <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, <michael.arnold@metaswitch.com>, "A. Mahoney" <mahoney@nostrum.com>, = Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>, "adam@nostrum.com" <adam@nostrum.com>, <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>
Resent-Date: Thursday, 20 December = 2018 at 17.37
 
Hi Stewart,
 
Thank You for the review! Please see inline.
 
>Summary: A well = written document with some minor points that could use a = little
>attention.
> 
>Major issues: None
> 
>Minor = issues:
> 
>In Figure 1 the following is included:
> 
>     REGISTER sip:alice@example.com SIP/2.0
>     Via: SIP/2.0/TCP alicemobile.example.com:5060;branch=3Dz9hG4bKnashds7=
>     Max-Forwards: 70
>     To: Alice <sip:alice@example.com>
>     From: Alice <sip:alice@example.com>;tag=3D456248
>     Call-ID: = 843817637684230@998sdasdh09
>     CSeq: 1826 = REGISTER
>       = pn-provider=3Dacme;
>       = pn-param=3Dacme-param;
>       = pn-prid=3DZTY4ZDJlMzODE1NmUgKi0K>
>     Expires: 7200
>     Content-Length: 0
> 
> SB> However = I don't at this stage of the text see the relationship between = the
>= SB> packet flow digram and the text that follows.
 
I could add the = following:
 
=E2=80=9CBelow is an example of a SIP REGISTER request in = Figure 1.=E2=80=9D
 
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
 
>   = Contact: IESG (iesg@ietf.org)
> 
> SB> Is the = whole IESG the most appropriate first point of contact?
 
That is what I was = told :)
 
Note= that I have used it also for other documents.
 
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D
 
>Nits/editorial comments:
>Presumably the = references to RFC XXXX will be replaced by RFC <this RFC> = but
>that does not seem to be noted in the text
 
I will add a note = to the RFC editor about that.
 
        =E2=80=9C[RFC= EDITOR NOTE: Please replace RFCXXXX with the RFC number of this = document.]=E2=80=9D
 
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
 
> SB> As = dicussed in [RFC4320] and [RFC4321], non-INVITE transactions = must
>= SB> Typo s/dicussed/discussed/
 
I will fix as suggested.
 
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D
 
>   Example: pn-prid =3D = 00fc13adff78512
> 
>   For more information about the APNs = Topic and device token:
> 
> SB> Is the following part of the example? If = so it could usefully be delimited
> SB> as such, otherwise, I don't understand why = it is not a normal document
> SB> reference.
> 
>   https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Netwo= rkingI
>   = nternet/Conceptual/RemoteNotificationsPG/CommunicatingwithAPNs.html=
> 
> SB> = Similarly in the following section
 
The link reference is not part of the example. Perhaps = I could place to reference before the examples, to make that more = clear?
 
Are = you suggesting that I add the link to the reference section, similar to = document references?
 
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
 
Regards,
 
Christer

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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w6sm20500696wme.46.2018.12.24.02.01.46 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Dec 2018 02:01:46 -0800 (PST) To: Christer Holmberg , "gen-art@ietf.org" Cc: "sipcore@ietf.org" , "iesg@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push.all@ietf.org" References: <044AE9AD-72F5-40D2-8A35-76E97D2F0A8D@ericsson.com> From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 10:01:45 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <044AE9AD-72F5-40D2-8A35-76E97D2F0A8D@ericsson.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------5065D75275A7FFD3FB7E9225" Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sipcore] [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21 X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 10:01:52 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5065D75275A7FFD3FB7E9225 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 20/12/2018 15:37, Christer Holmberg wrote: > > Hi Stewart, > > Thank You for the review! Please see inline. > > >Summary: A well written document with some minor points that could use a little > > >attention. > > > > > >Major issues: None > > > > > >Minor issues: > > > > > >In Figure 1 the following is included: > > > > > > REGISTER sip:alice@example.com SIP/2.0 > > > Via: SIP/2.0/TCP alicemobile.example.com:5060;branch=z9hG4bKnashds7 > > > Max-Forwards: 70 > > > To: Alice > > > From: Alice ;tag=456248 > > > Call-ID: 843817637684230@998sdasdh09 > > > CSeq: 1826 REGISTER > > > Contact: > > pn-provider=acme; > > > pn-param=acme-param; > > > pn-prid=ZTY4ZDJlMzODE1NmUgKi0K> > > > Expires: 7200 > > > Content-Length: 0 > > > > > > SB> However I don't at this stage of the text see the relationship > between the > > > SB> packet flow digram and the text that follows. > > I could add the following: > > “Below is an example of a SIP REGISTER request in Figure 1.” > SB> Thank you, that would clarify what was happening. > ========= > > > Contact: IESG (iesg@ietf.org ) > > > > > > SB> Is the whole IESG the most appropriate first point of contact? > > That is what I was told :) > > Note that I have used it also for other documents. > SB> Whatever the IESG want... :) > ========= > > >Nits/editorial comments: > > >Presumably the references to RFC XXXX will be replaced by RFC but > > >that does not seem to be noted in the text > > I will add a note to the RFC editor about that. > > “[RFC EDITOR NOTE: Please replace RFCXXXX with the RFC number of this > document.]” > SB> That would be a fine way of clarifying it to the editors and those that read the pre-edited final text. > > Example: pn-prid = 00fc13adff78512 > > > > > > For more information about the APNs Topic and device token: > > > > > > SB> Is the following part of the example? If so it could usefully be > delimited > > > SB> as such, otherwise, I don't understand why it is not a normal > document > > > SB> reference. > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/NetworkingI > > > nternet/Conceptual/RemoteNotificationsPG/CommunicatingwithAPNs.html > > > > > > SB> Similarly in the following section > > The link reference is not part of the example. Perhaps I could place > to reference before the examples, to make that more clear? > > Are you suggesting that I add the link to the reference section, > similar to document references? > SB> Yes, if it is just a reference, I would have expected it to be treated just like any other reference, i.e. a pointer to a reference at the end of the document. That method also clarifies the matter of whether the reference is normative or informational which does not happen with embedded references. Best regards Stewart > ========= > > Regards, > > Christer > --------------5065D75275A7FFD3FB7E9225 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


On 20/12/2018 15:37, Christer Holmberg wrote:

Hi Stewart,

 

Thank You for the review! Please see inline.

 

>Summary: A well written document with some minor points that could use a little

>attention.

> 

>Major issues: None

> 

>Minor issues:

> 

>In Figure 1 the following is included:

> 

>     REGISTER sip:alice@example.com SIP/2.0

>     Via: SIP/2.0/TCP alicemobile.example.com:5060;branch=z9hG4bKnashds7

>     Max-Forwards: 70

>     To: Alice <sip:alice@example.com>

>     From: Alice <sip:alice@example.com>;tag=456248

>     Call-ID: 843817637684230@998sdasdh09

>     CSeq: 1826 REGISTER

>     Contact: <sip:alice@alicemobile.example.com;

>       pn-provider=acme;

>       pn-param=acme-param;

>       pn-prid=ZTY4ZDJlMzODE1NmUgKi0K>

>     Expires: 7200

>     Content-Length: 0

> 

> SB> However I don't at this stage of the text see the relationship between the

> SB> packet flow digram and the text that follows.

 

I could add the following:

 

“Below is an example of a SIP REGISTER request in Figure 1.”


SB> Thank you, that would clarify what was happening.

 

=========

 

>   Contact: IESG (iesg@ietf.org)

> 

> SB> Is the whole IESG the most appropriate first point of contact?

 

That is what I was told :)

 

Note that I have used it also for other documents.

SB> Whatever the IESG want... :)


 

=========

 

>Nits/editorial comments:

>Presumably the references to RFC XXXX will be replaced by RFC <this RFC> but

>that does not seem to be noted in the text

 

I will add a note to the RFC editor about that.

 

        “[RFC EDITOR NOTE: Please replace RFCXXXX with the RFC number of this document.]”

SB> That would be a fine way of clarifying it to the editors and those that read the pre-edited final text.

 

>   Example: pn-prid = 00fc13adff78512

> 

>   For more information about the APNs Topic and device token:

> 

> SB> Is the following part of the example? If so it could usefully be delimited

> SB> as such, otherwise, I don't understand why it is not a normal document

> SB> reference.

> 

>   https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/NetworkingI

>   nternet/Conceptual/RemoteNotificationsPG/CommunicatingwithAPNs.html

> 

> SB> Similarly in the following section

 

The link reference is not part of the example. Perhaps I could place to reference before the examples, to make that more clear?

 

Are you suggesting that I add the link to the reference section, similar to document references?

SB> Yes, if it is just a reference, I would have expected it to be treated just like any other reference, i.e. a pointer to a reference at the end of the document. That method also clarifies the matter of whether the reference is normative or informational which does not happen with embedded references.

Best regards

Stewart


 

=========

 

Regards,

 

Christer

 

--------------5065D75275A7FFD3FB7E9225-- From nobody Fri Dec 28 13:46:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipcore@ietf.org Delivered-To: sipcore@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF36130EA4; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 13:46:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: sipcore@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sipcore@ietf.org Message-ID: <154603356727.21662.4937819323227360735@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 13:46:07 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [sipcore] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sipcore-rejected-02.txt X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: SIP Core Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:46:07 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Session Initiation Protocol Core WG of the IETF. Title : A Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Response Code for Rejected Calls Author : Eric W. Burger Filename : draft-ietf-sipcore-rejected-02.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2018-12-28 Abstract: This document defines the 608 (Rejected) SIP response code. This response code enables calling parties to learn an intermediary rejected their call attempt. The call will not be answered. As a 6xx code, the caller will be aware that future attempts to contact the same UAS will likely fail. The present use case driving the need for the 608 response code is when the intermediary is an analytics engine. In this case, the rejection is by a machine or other process. This contrasts with the 607 (Unwanted) SIP response code, which a human at the target UAS indicated the call was not wanted. In some jurisdictions this distinction is important. 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This version is resistant to replay attacks. It = also lets us trace jCards, if we wish. I think it=E2=80=99s done, but I=E2=80=99m sure there are glaring holes = that could be filled. Please review. Thanks, and Happy New Year. > On Dec 28, 2018, at 4:46 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Session Initiation Protocol Core WG = of the IETF. >=20 > Title : A Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Response = Code for Rejected Calls > Author : Eric W. Burger > Filename : draft-ietf-sipcore-rejected-02.txt > Pages : 21 > Date : 2018-12-28 >=20 > Abstract: > This document defines the 608 (Rejected) SIP response code. This > response code enables calling parties to learn an intermediary > rejected their call attempt. The call will not be answered. As a > 6xx code, the caller will be aware that future attempts to contact > the same UAS will likely fail. The present use case driving the = need > for the 608 response code is when the intermediary is an analytics > engine. In this case, the rejection is by a machine or other > process. This contrasts with the 607 (Unwanted) SIP response code, > which a human at the target UAS indicated the call was not wanted. > In some jurisdictions this distinction is important. This document > defines the use of the Call-Info header in 608 responses to enable > rejected callers to contact entities that blocked their calls in > error. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-rejected/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-rejected-02 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-rejected-02 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-sipcore-rejected-02 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore --Apple-Mail=_F787B50C-BDA0-4969-BFED-AD40CA684F18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
[Cross-posted to IP-NNI, NNI, and STIR lists; = please keep any discussion on the SIPCORE list]


What= do we have here? This version is resistant to replay attacks. It also = lets us trace jCards, if we wish.

I think it=E2=80=99= s done, but I=E2=80=99m sure there are glaring holes = that could be filled.

Please review.

Thanks, and Happy New Year.

On = Dec 28, 2018, at 4:46 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line = Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of = the Session Initiation Protocol Core WG of the IETF.

       Title =           : A Session = Initiation Protocol (SIP) Response Code for Rejected Calls
=        Author =          : Eric W. = Burger
Filename =        : = draft-ietf-sipcore-rejected-02.txt
Pages =           : 21
= Date =            : = 2018-12-28

Abstract:
=   This document defines the 608 (Rejected) SIP response code. =  This
  response code enables calling = parties to learn an intermediary
  rejected = their call attempt.  The call will not be answered.  As a
  6xx code, the caller will be aware that future = attempts to contact
  the same UAS will likely = fail.  The present use case driving the need
=   for the 608 response code is when the intermediary is an = analytics
  engine.  In this case, the = rejection is by a machine or other
  process. =  This contrasts with the 607 (Unwanted) SIP response code,
  which a human at the target UAS indicated the = call was not wanted.
  In some jurisdictions = this distinction is important.  This document
=   defines the use of the Call-Info header in 608 responses to = enable
  rejected callers to contact entities = that blocked their calls in
  error.


The IETF datatracker status = page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-rejected/

There are also htmlized versions = available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-rejected-02
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-reject= ed-02

A diff from the previous version is = available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-sipcore-rejected= -02


Please note that it may = take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until = the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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