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To: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>, Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com>
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Thank you for letting us know, David.  If someone who is planning to attend
has a WebEx account we can use, can you please contact Kirsty and me so
that we can work with you to have this ready prior to the session
starting?  The wiki for booking rooms just says there is no meetecho
support.

Thank you,
Kathleen

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:31 AM David McGrew (mcgrew) <mcgrew@cisco.com>
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> Hi Kathleen and Eric,
>
> If remote attendance is possible, I will be on it :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> David
>
> From: Smart <smart-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty <
> kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:33 PM
> To: Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com>
> Cc: "smart@irtf.org" <smart@irtf.org>
> Subject: Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103
>
> We'll figure out what is possible and share with the list.  Thanks for
> poking on that Eric.
>
> Best,
> Kathleen
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:02 PM Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I might get up early and Meetecho, Zoom, Skype, or otherwise pop in
>> remotely if someone is willing to setup the facilities for such.
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Mark O <Mark.O=40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The SMART (Stopping Malware And Researching Threats) proposed RG will
>> hold a planning meeting at IETF 103 in Bangkok. This is a side-meeting and
>> not officially on the IETF agenda, however anyone with an interest in
>> contributing to the proposed RG is welcome to attend.
>>
>> Agenda:
>> Discussion of aims of SMART
>> Relationship with other existing/proposed WGs/RGs
>> CARIS2 workshop call for submissions
>> Charter discussion
>> First year goals
>>
>> The meeting will take place at 18:15-19:15 on Thursday 8th November in
>> the Pagoda Room (4th Floor). Afterwards we may move to a bar, venue TBA!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000
>> (FOIA) and may be exempt under other UK information legislation. Refer any
>> FOIA queries to ncscinfoleg@ncsc.gov.uk --
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>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/smart
>>
>>
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> --
>
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you for letting us know, David.=C2=A0 If someone who=
 is planning to attend has a WebEx account we can use, can you please conta=
ct Kirsty and me so that we can work with you to have this ready prior to t=
he session starting?=C2=A0 The wiki for booking rooms just says there is no=
 meetecho support.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>Kath=
leen</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Nov=
 1, 2018 at 7:31 AM David McGrew (mcgrew) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mcgrew@cisc=
o.com">mcgrew@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">



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ily:Calibri,sans-serif">
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<div>
<div>Hi Kathleen and Eric,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If remote attendance is possible, I will be on it :-)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
<div>
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span>Smart &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:s=
mart-bounces@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank">smart-bounces@irtf.org</a>&gt; on =
behalf of Kathleen Moriarty &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, October 31, 2018 a=
t 11:33 PM<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span>Eric Burger &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:eburger@standardstrack.com" target=3D"_blank">eburger@standardstrack.com=
</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:smart@i=
rtf.org" target=3D"_blank">smart@irtf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:s=
mart@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank">smart@irtf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Smart] SMART side-mee=
ting at IETF 103<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<span>
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">We&#39;ll figure out what is possible and share with the l=
ist.=C2=A0 Thanks for poking on that Eric.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div>Kathleen</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:02 PM Eric Burger &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:eburger@standardstrack.com" target=3D"_blank">eburger@standardstrac=
k.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I might get up early and Meetecho, Zoom=
, Skype, or otherwise pop in remotely if someone is willing to setup the fa=
cilities for such.
<div><br>
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On Oct 29, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Mark O &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Mark.O=3D40n=
csc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">Mark.O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.i=
etf.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"m_5361154445037579815m_-173376118587806277Apple-interchange-ne=
wline">
<div>
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=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-cap=
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ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
The SMART (Stopping Malware And Researching Threats) proposed RG will hold =
a planning meeting at IETF 103 in Bangkok. This is a side-meeting and not o=
fficially on the IETF agenda, however anyone with an interest in contributi=
ng to the proposed RG is welcome
 to attend.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
Agenda:<br>
Discussion of aims of SMART<u></u><u></u></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
Relationship with other existing/proposed WGs/RGs<u></u><u></u></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
CARIS2 workshop call for submissions<u></u><u></u></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
Charter discussion<u></u><u></u></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
First year goals<u></u><u></u></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
The meeting will take place at 18:15-19:15 on Thursday 8<sup>th</sup><span =
class=3D"m_5361154445037579815m_-173376118587806277Apple-converted-space">=
=C2=A0</span>November in the Pagoda Room (4<sup>th</sup><span class=3D"m_53=
61154445037579815m_-173376118587806277Apple-converted-space">=C2=A0</span>F=
loor). Afterwards
 we may move to a bar, venue TBA!<u></u><u></u></div>
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ns-serif">
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<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
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I can check on that as SMART is only an email list at this point and not
yet a research group.  It's good to have your webex as a backup option, so
thank you!

Best regards,
Kathleen

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:47 AM Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) <
ncamwing@cisco.com> wrote:

> Hi Kathleen and all,
>
> I am sorry I=E2=80=99ve silent on this but do plan to attend=E2=80=A6..I =
can setup a webex
> for this though I think the SMART group can also do it through the IETF?
>
>
>
> Best, Nancy
>
>
>
> *From: *Smart <smart-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty <
> kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 06:23
> *To: *David McGrew <mcgrew@cisco.com>
> *Cc: *"smart@irtf.org" <smart@irtf.org>, Eric Burger <
> eburger@standardstrack.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103
>
>
>
> Thank you for letting us know, David.  If someone who is planning to
> attend has a WebEx account we can use, can you please contact Kirsty and =
me
> so that we can work with you to have this ready prior to the session
> starting?  The wiki for booking rooms just says there is no meetecho
> support.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kathleen
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:31 AM David McGrew (mcgrew) <mcgrew@cisco.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Kathleen and Eric,
>
>
>
> If remote attendance is possible, I will be on it :-)
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> *From: *Smart <smart-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty <
> kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:33 PM
> *To: *Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com>
> *Cc: *"smart@irtf.org" <smart@irtf.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103
>
>
>
> We'll figure out what is possible and share with the list.  Thanks for
> poking on that Eric.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Kathleen
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:02 PM Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com>
> wrote:
>
> I might get up early and Meetecho, Zoom, Skype, or otherwise pop in
> remotely if someone is willing to setup the facilities for such.
>
>
>
> On Oct 29, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Mark O <Mark.O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.or=
g>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> The SMART (Stopping Malware And Researching Threats) proposed RG will hol=
d
> a planning meeting at IETF 103 in Bangkok. This is a side-meeting and not
> officially on the IETF agenda, however anyone with an interest in
> contributing to the proposed RG is welcome to attend.
>
>
>
> Agenda:
> Discussion of aims of SMART
>
> Relationship with other existing/proposed WGs/RGs
>
> CARIS2 workshop call for submissions
>
> Charter discussion
>
> First year goals
>
>
>
> The meeting will take place at 18:15-19:15 on Thursday 8th November in
> the Pagoda Room (4th Floor). Afterwards we may move to a bar, venue TBA!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000
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> --
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> Best regards,
>
> Kathleen
>
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> Best regards,
>
> Kathleen
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Best regards,
Kathleen

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I can check on that as SMART is only an email list at this=
 point and not yet a research group.=C2=A0 It&#39;s good to have your webex=
 as a backup option, so thank you!<div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><d=
iv>Kathleen</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On T=
hu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:47 AM Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:ncamwing@cisco.com">ncamwing@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"m_-6648603507862837718WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Kathleen and all,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am sorry I=E2=80=99ve silent on this but do plan t=
o attend=E2=80=A6..I can setup a webex for this though I think the SMART gr=
oup can also do it through the IETF?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best, Nancy<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From=
: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Smart &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:smart-bounces@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank">smart-bounces@irtf.org=
</a>&gt; on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kathleen.mori=
arty.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 06:23<br>
<b>To: </b>David McGrew &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mcgrew@cisco.com" target=3D"_=
blank">mcgrew@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank">smart@=
irtf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank">=
smart@irtf.org</a>&gt;, Eric Burger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eburger@standards=
track.com" target=3D"_blank">eburger@standardstrack.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"m_-6648603507862837718__MailOriginalBody"=
>Thank you for letting us know, David.=C2=A0 If someone who is planning to =
attend has a WebEx account we can use, can you please contact Kirsty and me=
 so that we can work with you to have this ready prior to the session
 starting?=C2=A0 The wiki for booking rooms just says there is no meetecho =
support.=C2=A0=C2=A0 <u></u>
<u></u></a></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Thank you,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Kathleen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:31 AM David McGrew (m=
cgrew) &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:mcgrew@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank"><sp=
an>mcgrew@cisco.com</span><span></span></a><span>&gt;
 wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">H=
i Kathleen and Eric,<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">I=
f remote attendance is possible, I will be on it :-)<u></u><u></u></span></=
span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">T=
hanks<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">D=
avid<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black=
">From:
</span></b></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Smart =
&lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:smart-bounces@irtf.org" target=3D"_blan=
k"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">smart-bounces@irtf.org</span></sp=
an><span></span></a><span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
 on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:kathlee=
n.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"><span><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt">kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com</span></span><span></span></a><sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:33 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Eric Burger &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:eburger@standard=
strack.com" target=3D"_blank"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">eburge=
r@standardstrack.com</span></span><span></span></a><span><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>&quot;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" target=3D"=
_blank"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">smart@irtf.org</span></span>=
<span></span></a><span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&quot;
 &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank"><spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">smart@irtf.org</span></span><span></span=
></a><span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
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n 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0in" id=3D"m_-6648603507862=
837718m_5361154445037579815MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">W=
e&#39;ll figure out what is possible and share with the list.=C2=A0 Thanks =
for poking on that Eric.
<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">B=
est,<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">K=
athleen<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">O=
n Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:02 PM Eric Burger &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mai=
lto:eburger@standardstrack.com" target=3D"_blank"><span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.5pt">eburger@standardstrack.com</span></span><span></span></a><spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">&gt;
 wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">I=
 might get up early and Meetecho, Zoom, Skype, or otherwise pop in remotely=
 if someone is willing to setup the facilities for such.
<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">O=
n Oct 29, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Mark O &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:Mark=
.O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank"><span><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.5pt">Mark.O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org</span></span><span><=
/span></a><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">&gt;
 wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"color:black">The SMART (Stoppin=
g Malware And Researching Threats) proposed RG will hold a planning meeting=
 at IETF 103 in Bangkok. This is a side-meeting and not officially on the
 IETF agenda, however anyone with an interest in contributing to the propos=
ed RG is welcome to attend.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></=
u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"color:black">Agenda:<br>
Discussion of aims of SMART<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"color:black">Relationship with =
other existing/proposed WGs/RGs<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"color:black">CARIS2 workshop ca=
ll for submissions<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"color:black">Charter discussion=
<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"color:black">First year goals<u=
></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></=
u></span></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"color:black">The meeting will t=
ake place at 18:15-19:15 on Thursday 8<sup>th</sup><span class=3D"m_-664860=
3507862837718m5361154445037579815m-173376118587806277apple-converted-space"=
>=C2=A0</span>November in
 the Pagoda Room (4<sup>th</sup><span class=3D"m_-6648603507862837718m53611=
54445037579815m-173376118587806277apple-converted-space">=C2=A0</span>Floor=
). Afterwards we may move to a bar, venue TBA!<u></u><u></u></span></span><=
/p>
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u></span></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>-- <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Kathleen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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I can also host a WebEx if for some reason Nancy is not there.

Thanks,
Bret
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> On Nov 1, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Kathleen Moriarty =
<kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> I can check on that as SMART is only an email list at this point and =
not yet a research group.  It's good to have your webex as a backup =
option, so thank you!
>=20
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
>=20
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:47 AM Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) =
<ncamwing@cisco.com <mailto:ncamwing@cisco.com>> wrote:
> Hi Kathleen and all,
>=20
> I am sorry I=E2=80=99ve silent on this but do plan to attend=E2=80=A6..I=
 can setup a webex for this though I think the SMART group can also do =
it through the IETF?
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Best, Nancy
>=20
> =20
>=20
> From: Smart <smart-bounces@irtf.org <mailto:smart-bounces@irtf.org>> =
on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com =
<mailto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>>
> Date: Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 06:23
> To: David McGrew <mcgrew@cisco.com <mailto:mcgrew@cisco.com>>
> Cc: "smart@irtf.org <mailto:smart@irtf.org>" <smart@irtf.org =
<mailto:smart@irtf.org>>, Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com =
<mailto:eburger@standardstrack.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Thank you for letting us know, David.=C2=A0 If someone who is planning =
to attend has a WebEx account we can use, can you please contact Kirsty =
and me so that we can work with you to have this ready prior to the =
session starting?=C2=A0 The wiki for booking rooms just says there is no =
meetecho support.=C2=A0=C2=A0 <>
> =20
>=20
> Thank you,
>=20
> Kathleen
>=20
> =20
>=20
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:31 AM David McGrew (mcgrew) <mcgrew@cisco.com =
<mailto:mcgrew@cisco.com>> wrote:
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> Hi Kathleen and Eric,
>=20
> =20
>=20
> If remote attendance is possible, I will be on it :-)
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> =20
>=20
> David
>=20
> =20
>=20
> From: Smart <smart-bounces@irtf.org <mailto:smart-bounces@irtf.org>> =
on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com =
<mailto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>>
> Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:33 PM
> To: Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com =
<mailto:eburger@standardstrack.com>>
> Cc: "smart@irtf.org <mailto:smart@irtf.org>" <smart@irtf.org =
<mailto:smart@irtf.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103
>=20
> =20
>=20
> We'll figure out what is possible and share with the list.  Thanks for =
poking on that Eric.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Best,
>=20
> Kathleen
>=20
> =20
>=20
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:02 PM Eric Burger =
<eburger@standardstrack.com <mailto:eburger@standardstrack.com>> wrote:
>=20
> I might get up early and Meetecho, Zoom, Skype, or otherwise pop in =
remotely if someone is willing to setup the facilities for such.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> On Oct 29, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Mark O =
<Mark.O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org =
<mailto:Mark..O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>=20
> =20
>=20
> The SMART (Stopping Malware And Researching Threats) proposed RG will =
hold a planning meeting at IETF 103 in Bangkok. This is a side-meeting =
and not officially on the IETF agenda, however anyone with an interest =
in contributing to the proposed RG is welcome to attend.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Agenda:
> Discussion of aims of SMART
>=20
> Relationship with other existing/proposed WGs/RGs
>=20
> CARIS2 workshop call for submissions
>=20
> Charter discussion
>=20
> First year goals
>=20
> =20
>=20
> The meeting will take place at 18:15-19:15 on Thursday 8th November in =
the Pagoda Room (4th Floor). Afterwards we may move to a bar, venue TBA!
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
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> =20
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> This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 =
(FOIA) and may be exempt under other UK information legislation. Refer =
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>=20
> =20
>=20
> --
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> =20
>=20
> Best regards,
>=20
> Kathleen
>=20
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>=20
> =20
>=20
> --
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> =20
>=20
> Best regards,
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> Kathleen
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> Best regards,
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
can also host a WebEx if for some reason Nancy is not there.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
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none;">Bret</span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: =
2;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
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<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Nov 1, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Kathleen Moriarty &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">I can check on that as SMART is only an email list at this =
point and not yet a research group.&nbsp; It's good to have your webex =
as a backup option, so thank you!<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">Best regards,</div><div class=3D"">Kathleen</div></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On =
Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:47 AM Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ncamwing@cisco.com" class=3D"">ncamwing@cisco.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"m_-6648603507862837718WordSection1"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Kathleen and all,<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am sorry I=E2=80=99ve silent =
on this but do plan to attend=E2=80=A6..I can setup a webex for this =
though I think the SMART group can also do it through the IETF?<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best, =
Nancy<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">From: </span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Smart &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:smart-bounces@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">smart-bounces@irtf.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Date: </b>Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 06:23<br class=3D"">=

<b class=3D"">To: </b>David McGrew &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mcgrew@cisco.com"=
 target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">mcgrew@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Cc: </b>"<a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank"=
 class=3D"">smart@irtf.org</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">smart@irtf.org</a>&gt;, Eric Burger &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:eburger@standardstrack.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">eburger@standardstrack.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Subject: </b>Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
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</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a =
name=3D"m_-6648603507862837718__MailOriginalBody" class=3D"">Thank you =
for letting us know, David.&nbsp; If someone who is planning to attend =
has a WebEx account we can use, can you please contact Kirsty and me so =
that we can work with you to have this ready prior to the session
 starting?&nbsp; The wiki for booking rooms just says there is no =
meetecho support.&nbsp;&nbsp; <u class=3D""></u>
<u class=3D""></u></a></p>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><u =
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<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"">Thank you,<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"">Kathleen<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p>
</div>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"">On Thu, Nov 1, =
2018 at 7:31 AM David McGrew (mcgrew) &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mcgrew@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">mcgrew@cisco.com</span><span class=3D""></span></a><span =
class=3D"">&gt;
 wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc =
1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in" =
class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">Hi Kathleen and Eric,<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">If remote attendance is =
possible, I will be on it :-)<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">Thanks<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">David<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><b =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">From:
</span></b></span><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">Smart &lt;</span></span><a =
href=3D"mailto:smart-bounces@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt" =
class=3D"">smart-bounces@irtf.org</span></span><span =
class=3D""></span></a><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&gt;
 on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty &lt;</span></span><a =
href=3D"mailto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt" =
class=3D"">kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com</span></span><span =
class=3D""></span></a><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Date: </b>Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:33 PM<br =
class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">To: </b>Eric Burger &lt;</span></span><a =
href=3D"mailto:eburger@standardstrack.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt" =
class=3D"">eburger@standardstrack.com</span></span><span =
class=3D""></span></a><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Cc: </b>"</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D""><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt" class=3D"">smart@irtf.org</span></span><span =
class=3D""></span></a><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">"
 &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt" =
class=3D"">smart@irtf.org</span></span><span class=3D""></span></a><span =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">=

<b class=3D"">Subject: </b>Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df =
4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0in" =
id=3D"m_-6648603507862837718m_5361154445037579815MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_B=
LOCKQUOTE" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">We'll figure out what is =
possible and share with the list.&nbsp; Thanks for poking on that Eric.
<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">Best,<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">Kathleen<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:02 PM =
Eric Burger &lt;</span></span><a =
href=3D"mailto:eburger@standardstrack.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt" =
class=3D"">eburger@standardstrack.com</span></span><span =
class=3D""></span></a><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt;" class=3D"">&gt;
 wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc =
1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in" =
class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">I might get up early and =
Meetecho, Zoom, Skype, or otherwise pop in remotely if someone is =
willing to setup the facilities for such.
<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
<div class=3D"">
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">On Oct 29, 2018, at 2:53 PM, =
Mark O &lt;</span></span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Mark..O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt" =
class=3D"">Mark.O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org</span></span><span =
class=3D""></span></a><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt;" class=3D"">&gt;
 wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">The SMART (Stopping Malware And Researching Threats) proposed =
RG will hold a planning meeting at IETF 103 in Bangkok. This is a =
side-meeting and not officially on the
 IETF agenda, however anyone with an interest in contributing to the =
proposed RG is welcome to attend.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">Agenda:<br class=3D"">
Discussion of aims of SMART<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">Relationship with other existing/proposed WGs/RGs<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">CARIS2 workshop call for submissions<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">Charter discussion<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">First year goals<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">The meeting will take place at 18:15-19:15 on Thursday 8<sup =
class=3D"">th</sup><span =
class=3D"m_-6648603507862837718m5361154445037579815m-173376118587806277app=
le-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>November in
 the Pagoda Room (4<sup class=3D"">th</sup><span =
class=3D"m_-6648603507862837718m5361154445037579815m-173376118587806277app=
le-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Floor). Afterwards we may move to a =
bar, venue TBA!<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D"">This information is exempt =
under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA) and may be exempt under =
other UK information legislation.
 Refer any FOIA queries to<span =
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href=3D"mailto:ncscinfoleg@ncsc.gov.uk" target=3D"_blank" class=3D""><span=
 class=3D""><span =
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class=3D"">ncscinfoleg@ncsc..gov.uk</span></span><span =
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style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#954f72" =
class=3D"">Smart@irtf.org</span></span><span class=3D""></span></a><span =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</span></span><span class=3D""></span><a =
href=3D"https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/smart" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#954f72" =
class=3D"">https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/smart</span></span><span =
class=3D""></span></a><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>=

</div>
</blockquote>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
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10.5pt;" class=3D"">--
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class=3D""><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt" =
class=3D"">Smart@irtf.org</span></span><span class=3D""></span></a><span =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</span></span><a href=3D"https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/smart" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D""><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt" =
class=3D"">https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/smart</span></span><span =
class=3D""></span></a><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>=

</blockquote>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt;" class=3D""><br clear=3D"all" class=3D"">
<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt;" class=3D"">--
<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">Best regards,<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;" class=3D"">Kathleen<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><br clear=3D"all" =
class=3D"">
<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"">-- <u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"">Best regards,<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"">Kathleen<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>-- <br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">Best =
regards,</div><div class=3D"">Kathleen</div></div></div>
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From: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103
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Thank you Nancy and Bret.

As it turns out, we will need to rely on notes for the session.  This will
just be a planning meeting and I'll be happy to set up a call with David
and Eric (and anyone else) after the meeting.  We would like your input and
the session might be a bit difficult to get that input with the limited
time we have.

We are hoping to get the CARIS information out soon too, but are waiting on
a few details.

Best regards,
Kathleen

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 5:48 AM Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can also host a WebEx if for some reason Nancy is not there.
>
> Thanks,
> Bret
> PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050
> "Without cryptography vihv vivc ce xhrnrw, however, the only thing that
> can not be unscrambled is an egg."
>
> On Nov 1, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Kathleen Moriarty <
> kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I can check on that as SMART is only an email list at this point and not
> yet a research group.  It's good to have your webex as a backup option, s=
o
> thank you!
>
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:47 AM Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) <
> ncamwing@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kathleen and all,
>>
>> I am sorry I=E2=80=99ve silent on this but do plan to attend=E2=80=A6..I=
 can setup a
>> webex for this though I think the SMART group can also do it through the
>> IETF?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best, Nancy
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Smart <smart-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty <
>> kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 06:23
>> *To: *David McGrew <mcgrew@cisco.com>
>> *Cc: *"smart@irtf.org" <smart@irtf.org>, Eric Burger <
>> eburger@standardstrack.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for letting us know, David.  If someone who is planning to
>> attend has a WebEx account we can use, can you please contact Kirsty and=
 me
>> so that we can work with you to have this ready prior to the session
>> starting?  The wiki for booking rooms just says there is no meetecho
>> support.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Kathleen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:31 AM David McGrew (mcgrew) <mcgrew@cisco.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kathleen and Eric,
>>
>>
>>
>> If remote attendance is possible, I will be on it :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Smart <smart-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty <
>> kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:33 PM
>> *To: *Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com>
>> *Cc: *"smart@irtf.org" <smart@irtf.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103
>>
>>
>>
>> We'll figure out what is possible and share with the list.  Thanks for
>> poking on that Eric.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Kathleen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:02 PM Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I might get up early and Meetecho, Zoom, Skype, or otherwise pop in
>> remotely if someone is willing to setup the facilities for such.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Mark O <Mark.O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.o=
rg
>> <Mark..O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The SMART (Stopping Malware And Researching Threats) proposed RG will
>> hold a planning meeting at IETF 103 in Bangkok. This is a side-meeting a=
nd
>> not officially on the IETF agenda, however anyone with an interest in
>> contributing to the proposed RG is welcome to attend.
>>
>>
>>
>> Agenda:
>> Discussion of aims of SMART
>>
>> Relationship with other existing/proposed WGs/RGs
>>
>> CARIS2 workshop call for submissions
>>
>> Charter discussion
>>
>> First year goals
>>
>>
>>
>> The meeting will take place at 18:15-19:15 on Thursday 8th November in
>> the Pagoda Room (4th Floor). Afterwards we may move to a bar, venue TBA!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000
>> (FOIA) and may be exempt under other UK information legislation. Refer a=
ny
>> FOIA queries to ncscinfoleg@ncsc..gov.uk <ncscinfoleg@ncsc.gov.uk> --
>> Smart mailing list
>> Smart@irtf.org
>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/smart
>>
>>
>>
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>> Smart@irtf.org
>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/smart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Kathleen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Kathleen
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you Nancy and Bret.<div><br></div><div>As it turns o=
ut, we will need to rely on notes for the session.=C2=A0 This will just be =
a planning meeting and I&#39;ll be happy to set up a call with David and Er=
ic (and anyone else) after the meeting.=C2=A0 We would like your input and =
the session might be a bit difficult to get that input with the limited tim=
e we have.</div><div><br></div><div>We are hoping to get the CARIS informat=
ion out soon too, but are waiting on a few details.=C2=A0</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Best regards,</div><div>Kathleen</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 5:48 AM Bret Jordan &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jordan.ietf@gmail.com">jordan.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;=
line-break:after-white-space">I can also host a WebEx if for some reason Na=
ncy is not there.<div><br><div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-st=
yle:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:norma=
l;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:=
normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal"><span class=3D"m_=
7503018411603065325Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;font=
-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal=
;border-spacing:0px">Thanks,</span></div><div style=3D"font-variant-ligatur=
es:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal"><span class=3D=
"m_7503018411603065325Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;f=
ont-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:nor=
mal;text-align:-webkit-auto;border-spacing:0px">Bret</span></div><div><span=
 class=3D"m_7503018411603065325Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:s=
eparate;text-align:-webkit-auto;border-spacing:0px"><span class=3D"m_750301=
8411603065325Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;text-align=
:-webkit-auto;border-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-b=
reak:after-white-space"><span class=3D"m_7503018411603065325Apple-style-spa=
n" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;text-align:-webkit-auto;border-spacing=
:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><spa=
n class=3D"m_7503018411603065325Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:=
separate;text-align:-webkit-auto;border-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"word-wra=
p:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><span class=3D"m_750301841160306=
5325Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;text-align:-webkit-=
auto;border-spacing:0px"><div><font color=3D"#7c7c7c" face=3D"Calibre, Verd=
ana" style=3D"font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;=
line-height:normal"><span style=3D"font-size:11px">PGP Fingerprint:=C2=A0</=
span></font><span style=3D"text-align:-webkit-auto;font-size:11px"><font co=
lor=3D"#7c7c7c" face=3D"Calibre, Verdana">63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447 =C2=A0F2=
C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050</font></span></div><div style=3D"font-variant-ligatu=
res:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(124,124,124);font-size:8pt;font-family:Calibre,Verdana;text-a=
lign:-webkit-auto">&quot;Without cryptography vihv vivc ce xhrnrw, however,=
 the only thing that can not be unscrambled is an egg.&quot;</span></div></=
span></div></span></div></span></div></span></span></div></div>
</div>
<div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Nov 1, 2018, at 10:44 PM, Kathle=
en Moriarty &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=
=3D"m_7503018411603065325Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I=
 can check on that as SMART is only an email list at this point and not yet=
 a research group.=C2=A0 It&#39;s good to have your webex as a backup optio=
n, so thank you!<div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Kathleen</div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at=
 10:47 AM Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ncamwing@cisco.=
com" target=3D"_blank">ncamwing@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"m_7503018411603065325m_-6648603507862837718WordSection1"><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Kathleen and all,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">I am sorry I=E2=80=99ve silent on this but do plan to attend=E2=80=A6.=
.I can setup a webex for this though I think the SMART group can also do it=
 through the IETF?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best, Nancy<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">From: </s=
pan></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Smart &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smart-bo=
unces@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank">smart-bounces@irtf.org</a>&gt; on behalf =
of Kathleen Moriarty &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 06:23<br>
<b>To: </b>David McGrew &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mcgrew@cisco.com" target=3D"_=
blank">mcgrew@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank">smart@=
irtf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank">=
smart@irtf.org</a>&gt;, Eric Burger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eburger@standards=
track.com" target=3D"_blank">eburger@standardstrack.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"m_7503018411603065325_m_-66486035078=
62837718__MailOriginalBody">Thank you for letting us know, David.=C2=A0 If =
someone who is planning to attend has a WebEx account we can use, can you p=
lease contact Kirsty and me so that we can work with you to have this ready=
 prior to the session
 starting?=C2=A0 The wiki for booking rooms just says there is no meetecho =
support.=C2=A0=C2=A0 <u></u>
<u></u></a></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Thank you,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Kathleen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:31 AM David McGr=
ew (mcgrew) &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:mcgrew@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank=
"><span>mcgrew@cisco.com</span><span></span></a><span>&gt;
 wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Hi Kathl=
een and Eric,<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">If remot=
e attendance is possible, I will be on it :-)<u></u><u></u></span></span></=
p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Thanks<u=
></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">David<u>=
</u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Fro=
m:
</span></b></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Smart &lt;</span></s=
pan><a href=3D"mailto:smart-bounces@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank"><span><span=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">smart-bounces@irtf.org</span></span><span></spa=
n></a><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">&gt;
 on behalf of Kathleen Moriarty &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:kathlee=
n.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"><span><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt">kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com</span></span><span></span></a><sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:33 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Eric Burger &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:eburger@standard=
strack.com" target=3D"_blank"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">eburge=
r@standardstrack.com</span></span><span></span></a><span><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12pt">&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>&quot;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" target=3D"=
_blank"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">smart@irtf.org</span></span>=
<span></span></a><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">&quot;
 &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:smart@irtf.org" target=3D"_blank"><spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">smart@irtf.org</span></span><span></span=
></a><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Smart] SMART side-meeting at IETF 103<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
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<div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">We&#39;l=
l figure out what is possible and share with the list.=C2=A0 Thanks for pok=
ing on that Eric.
<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Best,<u>=
</u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Kathleen=
<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
<div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">On Wed, =
Oct 31, 2018 at 9:02 PM Eric Burger &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:ebu=
rger@standardstrack.com" target=3D"_blank"><span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt">eburger@standardstrack.com</span></span><span></span></a><span><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">&gt;
 wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">I might =
get up early and Meetecho, Zoom, Skype, or otherwise pop in remotely if som=
eone is willing to setup the facilities for such.
<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">On Oct 2=
9, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Mark O &lt;</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:Mark..O=3D4=
0ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank"><span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.5pt">Mark.O=3D40ncsc.gov.uk@dmarc.ietf.org</span></span><span></span>=
</a><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">&gt;
 wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>The SMART (Stopping Malware And Res=
earching Threats) proposed RG will hold a planning meeting at IETF 103 in B=
angkok. This is a side-meeting and not officially on the
 IETF agenda, however anyone with an interest in contributing to the propos=
ed RG is welcome to attend.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></span><=
/p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>Agenda:<br>
Discussion of aims of SMART<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>Relationship with other existing/pr=
oposed WGs/RGs<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>CARIS2 workshop call for submission=
s<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>Charter discussion<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>First year goals<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></span><=
/p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>The meeting will take place at 18:1=
5-19:15 on Thursday 8<sup>th</sup><span class=3D"m_7503018411603065325m_-66=
48603507862837718m5361154445037579815m-173376118587806277apple-converted-sp=
ace">=C2=A0</span>November in
 the Pagoda Room (4<sup>th</sup><span class=3D"m_7503018411603065325m_-6648=
603507862837718m5361154445037579815m-173376118587806277apple-converted-spac=
e">=C2=A0</span>Floor). Afterwards we may move to a bar, venue TBA!<u></u><=
u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></span><=
/p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></span><=
/p>
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/p>
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/p>
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ar=3D"all">
<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
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<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></span></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Best reg=
ards,<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Kathleen=
<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>-- <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Kathleen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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Hi,

just heard about SMART during the HotRFC session, and my first reaction =
was what "researching threats" are and why you'd want to stop them. Not =
a native speaker, but maybe consider finagling the name a bit to make it =
less prone to such misunderstanding?

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> On Nov 4, 2018, at 6:12 AM, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> just heard about SMART during the HotRFC session, and my first reaction wa=
s what "researching threats" are and why you'd want to stop them. Not a nati=
ve speaker, but maybe consider finagling the name a bit to make it less pron=
e to such misunderstanding?
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Thank you, Lars.  That=E2=80=99s a good point.  Suggestions welcome, ideally=
 using the same acronym or we could just have trailing words?

Best regards,
Kathleen=20
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SMART folks,


A gentle reminder that we are meeting tomorrow!


We're in the Pagoda Room (4th Floor) at 18:15 local time - and the first 40=
 people in the room get a free drink, so if there was ever a reason to be p=
unctual...


We also have a WebEx for remote participation details (thanks to Nancy Cam-=
Winget for providing this) - details as follows:


SMART BoF
Thursday, November 8, 2018
3:00 am  |  Pacific Standard Time (San Francisco, GMT-08:00)  |  1 hr 30 mi=
ns
Meeting number (access code): 201 957 518
Meeting password: guu9MVbH (48896824 from phones)

Join from a video system or application
Dial 201957518@cisco.webex.com<sip:201957518@cisco.webex.com>
You can also dial 173.243.2.68 and enter your meeting number.
>From the Cisco internal network, dial *267* and the 9-digit meeting number.=
 If you are the host, enter your PIN when prompted.

Join by phone
+1-408-525-6800<tel:+1-408-525-6800,,*01*201957518##*01*> Call-in toll numb=
er (US/Canada)
+1-866-432-9903<tel:+1-866-432-9903,,*01*201957518##*01*> Call-in toll-free=
 number (US/Canada)


Whether in person or via WebEx, I look forward to seeing you there!


Kirsty

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p>
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participation details (thanks to Nancy Cam-Winget for providing this) - det=
ails as follows:</p>
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<td style=3D"padding:0px"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2" color=3D"#666666"=
><span style=3D"font-size:15px">Dial&nbsp;<a href=3D"sip:201957518@cisco.we=
bex.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" id=3D"LPlnk579741" c=
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><span style=3D"font-size:15px">You can also dial 173.243.2.68 and enter yo=
ur meeting number.</span></font></td>
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<td style=3D"padding:0px"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2" color=3D"#666666"=
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 and the 9-digit meeting number. If you are the host, enter your PIN when p=
rompted.</span></font></td>
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Arial" size=3D"2" color=3D"#00AFF9"><span style=3D"font-size:15px"><b>&#43;=
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</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Kirsty</p>
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In the SMART side meeting today at IETF 103, i mentioned the following
work from University of Hamburg on "Tracking Users across the Web via
TLS Session Resumption":

   https://svs.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/publications/2018/2018-12-06-Sy-ACSAC-Tracking_Users_across_the_Web_via_TLS_Session_Resumption.pdf

I'd be curious to hear how/whether people think this type of work fits
into the goals of the SMART RG.

Thanks to Kathleen and Kirsty and Nancy for organizing and facilitating
the meeting.

Regards,

    --dkg

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We are pleased to announce a call for papers (position paper or research
paper) for the Coordinating Attack Response at Internet Scale (CARIS) 2
workshop, sponsored by the Internet Society.  The workshop will take place
in Cambridge, MA February 28 - March 1, 2019 and we look forward to your
participation.

Additional information on the workshop can be found at the following link:
https://www.internetsociety.org/events/caris2

Paper submissions (minimum of 2 pages) are due 16 December 2018 for
consideration to attend the workshop.  Papers can be submitted through the
following link, which requires creating an account:
https://caris19.hotcrp.com/

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 Scale (<span class=3D"gmail-il">CARIS</span>) 2 workshop, sponsored by the=
 Internet Society.=C2=A0 The workshop will take place in Cambridge, MA Febr=
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s2" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.internetsociety.org/ev=
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ges) are due 16 December 2018 for consideration to attend the workshop.=C2=
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