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X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Stopping Malware And Researching Threats List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 14:47:03 -0000 --_000_LOXP123MB08373DC4888571AEAB2DC7B1D7AA0LOXP123MB0837GBRP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SMART folks, This is a very belated thank you to everyone who came to the meeting at IET= F 103 in Bangkok! It was great to have a full room, with remote participant= s dialling in too, and to have such an engaging discussion, with contributi= ons from many of you in the room - so thank you for bringing your ideas and= questions. In the meeting, we outlined what we hope the group will bring to the IRTF, = and described the kinds of problems and research we would like to do and se= e done. Some of you promised to share your research in future SMART meeting= s and many of you expressed strong support for the fact that the SMART grou= p was being proposed. We also went through some of the charter on the projector to give a better = idea of what we hope to achieve with SMART. I'm aware that I promised to po= st the revised charter on this list - so I will do this shortly but I still= welcome mailing list comments on it; I know we had to cut some discussions= short in the name of timekeeping. We also put out the call for CARIS2 contributions; as a reminder, if you wo= uld like to submit a short paper to CARIS2, all information is on the Inter= net Society page here: https://www.internetsociety.org/events/caris2 The deadline for submissions is 16th December, and we want to get the broad= est group of people involved, so please submit your contributions. Finally, we established that SMART's first meeting will be next year at IET= F 104 in Prague in March - so if you haven't already, save the date! Kirsty This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA)= and may be exempt under other UK information legislation. Refer any FOIA q= ueries to ncscinfoleg@ncsc.gov.uk --_000_LOXP123MB08373DC4888571AEAB2DC7B1D7AA0LOXP123MB0837GBRP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

SMART folks,

This is a very belated thank you to everyone who came to the meet= ing at IETF 103 in Bangkok! It was great to have a full room= , with remote participants dialling in too, and to have such an engagi= ng discussion, with contributions from many of you in the room - so thank you for bringing your ideas and questions.

In the meeting, we outlined what we hope the group will bring to the I= RTF, and described the kinds of problems and research we would li= ke to do and see done. Some of you promised to share your research in = future SMART meetings and many of you expressed strong support for the fact that the SMART group was being = proposed.

We also went through some of the charter on the projector to give= a better idea of what we hope to achieve with SMART. I'm aware that I prom= ised to post the revised charter on this list - so I will do this shortly b= ut I still welcome mailing list comments on it; I know we had to cut some discussions short in the name o= f timekeeping.

We also put out the call for CARIS2 contributions; as a reminder, if y= ou would like to submit a short paper to CARIS2, all information is on= the Internet Society page here: https://www.internetsociety.org/events/caris2
The deadline for submissions is 16th December, and we want to get the = broadest group of people involved, so please submit your contributions.

Finally, we established that SMART's first meeting will be&n= bsp;next year at IETF 104 in Prague in March - so if you haven't already,&n= bsp;save the date!

Kirsty


This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA)= and may be exempt under other UK information legislation. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a reminder that submissions to the CARIS2 workshop are closing on S= unday 16th December! And just in case you missed the previous post on this.= .. CARIS2 (Coordinating Attack Response at Internet Scale) is a 2-day workshop= about - well, exactly that - improving incident response to attacks on a l= arge scale... and as you're on the SMART list, you (or someone you know) mi= ght be interested in participating/submitting a paper/attending. Full detai= ls are on the website (https://www.internetsociety.org/events/caris2) but, = in short, a wide range of expertise and experience in responding to attacks= would be invaluable at this workshop, so do consider contributing. Plus, t= he outcomes from CARIS2 will be used to feed into SMART. If you have any questions, please ask on the list or directly - I'm happy t= o discuss it and negotiate around any blockers to your participation. Addit= ionally, if you have any contacts that might be interested; let them know..= . the deadline is approaching! This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA)= and may be exempt under other UK information legislation. Refer any FOIA q= ueries to ncscinfoleg@ncsc.gov.uk --_000_MMXP123MB084723DF94A3FC19BDFEF73AD7A60MMXP123MB0847GBRP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is a reminder that submissions to = the CARIS2 workshop are closing on Sunday 16th December! And just in c= ase you missed the previous post on this...


CARIS2 (Coordinating At= tack Response at Internet Scale) is a 2-day workshop about - well, exa= ctly that - improving incident response to attacks on a large scale... and as you're on the SMART list, you (or som= eone you know) might be interested in participating/submitting a paper= /attending. Full details are on the website (https://www.intern= etsociety.org/events/caris2) but, in short, a wide range of expertise and experience in responding= to attacks would be invaluable at this workshop, so do cons= ider contributing. Plus, the outcom= es from CARIS2 will be used to feed into SMART.


If you have any questions, please ask on = the list or directly - I'm happy to discuss it and negotiate around&nb= sp;any blockers to your participation. Additionally, if you have = any contacts that might be interested; let them know... the deadline is approaching!


This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA)= and may be exempt under other UK information legislation. Refer any FOIA q= ueries to ncscinfoleg@ncsc.gov.uk --_000_MMXP123MB084723DF94A3FC19BDFEF73AD7A60MMXP123MB0847GBRP_-- From nobody Fri Dec 14 05:33:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: smart@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: smart@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20C6123FFD for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2018 05:33:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4ZXLSvYEff0K for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2018 05:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (relay1-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A0CB127B4C for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2018 05:33:34 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: 178.24.236.117 Received: from [10.1.10.97] (ipb218ec75.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [178.24.236.117]) (Authenticated sender: henry.story@co-operating.systems) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11F4B24000D for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2018 13:33:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Henry Story Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Message-Id: <7F20A91C-B493-4955-9547-552BE718A29D@co-operating.systems> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 14:33:30 +0100 To: smart@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) Archived-At: Subject: [Smart] Epistemology in the Cloud X-BeenThere: smart@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Stopping Malware And Researching Threats List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 13:33:38 -0000 Hi folks, this group was started following a thread I started on IETF SAAG mailing list this summer. I had to write up my second year PhD report, and move apartments in the mean time, so I have not yet been able to follow the activity here, but will have time now. My paper was published at the International Semantic Web conference and I put it online here: https://medium.com/@bblfish/epistemology-in-the-cloud-472fad4c8282 with a number of follow up blog posts. I would be happy to try to adapt this paper to get it published somewhere that could start a discussion with people involved in thinking about security issues - I am trying to make semantic web and security folks meet, which is about as difficult as getting hippies to work with army folks. :-) If you have ideas what would be the best place to do that I'd be happy to try. And of course I'd be happy to know that questions this paper raises in this community so that I can try to address them. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Henry, Thanks for your interest in the group! I can see that you discussed phishin= g on the SAAG list in July - perhaps an example of many people having the s= ame good idea at the same time! I actually had the idea for SMART a bit ear= lier, with the ambition that SMART will span more than only phishing - to d= efend against the breadth of attacks that we see on the Internet today. If = you have specific research on phishing that you would like to bring into SM= ART, we would be very interested to see it, especially as significantly red= ucing UK-hosted phishing has been one of NCSC's key achievements since we s= tarted. Your linked research looks interesting; however I suggest it might be a bet= ter fit for the HRPC RG. In fact, I think "Fake News" was brought up in the= last IETF as a possible future work topic! Kirsty ________________________________ From: Smart on behalf of Henry Story Sent: 14 December 2018 13:33:30 To: smart@irtf.org Subject: [Smart] Epistemology in the Cloud Hi folks, this group was started following a thread I started on IETF SAAG mailing list this summer. I had to write up my second year PhD report, and move apartments in the mean time, so I have not yet been able to follow the activity here, but will have time now. My paper was published at the International Semantic Web conference and I put it online here: https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fmedi= um.com%2F%40bblfish%2Fepistemology-in-the-cloud-472fad4c8282&data=3D02%= 7C01%7Ckirsty.p%40ncsc.gov.uk%7Cb8f1af6d83a14a59f7ad08d661c8c5aa%7C14aa5744= ece1474ea2d734f46dda64a1%7C0%7C0%7C636803912285466919&sdata=3DiN5BTpiUr= D%2FTFyOZShwANcNPH0rEnvLm2H1dlBqWaUc%3D&reserved=3D0 with a number of follow up blog posts. I would be happy to try to adapt this paper to get it published somewhere that could start a discussion with people involved in thinking about security issues - I am trying to make semantic web and security folks meet, which is about as difficult as getting hippies to work with army folks. :-) If you have ideas what would be the best place to do that I'd be happy to try. And of course I'd be happy to know that questions this paper raises in this community so that I can try to address them. 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Hi Henry,


Thanks for your interest in the = group! I can see that you discussed phishing on the SAAG list in July = - perhaps an example of many people having the same good idea at the same t= ime! I actually had the idea for SMART a bit earlier, with the ambition that SMART will span more than only = phishing - to defend against the breadth of attacks that we see on the= Internet today. If you have specific research on phishing that you would l= ike to bring into SMART, we would be very interested to see it, especially as significantly reducing UK-ho= sted phishing has been one of NC= SC's key achievements since we started.


Your linked research l= ooks interesting; however I suggest it might be a better fit for the H= RPC RG. In fact, I think "Fake News" was brought up in the l= ast IETF as a possible future work topic!


Kirsty



From: Smart <smart-bounc= es@irtf.org> on behalf of Henry Story <henry.story@co-operating.syste= ms>
Sent: 14 December 2018 13:33:30
To: smart@irtf.org
Subject: [Smart] Epistemology in the Cloud
 
Hi folks,

        this group was started following= a thread I started on IETF
SAAG mailing list this summer. I had to write up my second year PhD
report, and move apartments in the mean time, so I have not yet been
able to follow the activity here, but will have time now.

My paper was published at the International Semantic Web conference
and I put it online here:

  https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fmedium= .com%2F%40bblfish%2Fepistemology-in-the-cloud-472fad4c8282&amp;data=3D0= 2%7C01%7Ckirsty.p%40ncsc.gov.uk%7Cb8f1af6d83a14a59f7ad08d661c8c5aa%7C14aa57= 44ece1474ea2d734f46dda64a1%7C0%7C0%7C636803912285466919&amp;sdata=3DiN5= BTpiUrD%2FTFyOZShwANcNPH0rEnvLm2H1dlBqWaUc%3D&amp;reserved=3D0

with a number of follow up blog posts.

I would be happy to try to adapt this paper to get it published
somewhere that could start a discussion with people involved in
thinking about security issues - I am trying to make semantic web
and security folks meet, which is about as difficult as getting
hippies to work with army folks. :-) If you have ideas what would be
the best place to do that I'd be happy to try. And of course I'd
be happy to know that questions this paper raises in this community
so that I can try to address them.


Sincerely,

  Henry Story
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I can see that you discussed = phishing on the SAAG list in July - perhaps an example of many people = having the same good idea at the same time! I actually had the idea for = SMART a bit earlier, with the ambition that SMART will span more than = only phishing - to defend against the breadth of attacks that we see on = the Internet today. If you have specific research on phishing that you = would like to bring into SMART, we would be very interested to see it, = especially as significantly reducing UK-hosted phishing has been one of = NCSC's key achievements since we started. It's great to have company in thinking about these topics. :-) The blog post that most directly and concretely presents the idea in = terms=20 of Phishing is=20 "Phishing in Context - Epistemology of the Screen" https://medium.com/cybersoton/phishing-in-context-9c84ca451314 But the idea goes much further.=20 I see the web as a socio/technical system [1] and so security thinking = needs to=20 take technology as well as the humans and social into account. Once one = looks at this=20 carefully one sees that what is missing is institutional and national=20 integration in the security architecture of the web. Not any way to do = that would work of course: one needs to respect the sovereignty of each = nation if it is to work, ie: there can be no centralised system. Luckily a decentralised = web of Nations is technically feasible - the standards are ready - and = politically of=20 course requires a much longer process of co-operation. But the stakes = are worth it. There is a longer post "=46rom Digital Sovereignty to the Web of = Nations" = https://medium.com/cybersoton/from-digital-sovereignty-to-the-web-of-natio= ns-61fbc28d79cd which looks at the issue of digital sovereignty, by also bringing in the = debate on the issue going on in France. I hope that helps, and am happy to answer any further questions, Henry Story [1] I am actually part of the Social Machines project = https://sociam.org/ >=20 > Your linked research looks interesting; however I suggest it might be = a better fit for the HRPC RG.=20 You mean this one: https://datatracker.ietf.org/rg/hrpc/about/=20 ? > In fact, I think "Fake News" was brought up in the last IETF as a = possible future work topic! I see that at least a large part of fake news is that people cannot tell = where the news they are reading is coming from. The web does not make it easy to know = what type of instution a web site is tied to. >=20 > Kirsty >=20 >=20 > From: Smart on behalf of Henry Story = > Sent: 14 December 2018 13:33:30 > To: smart@irtf.org > Subject: [Smart] Epistemology in the Cloud > =20 > Hi folks, >=20 > this group was started following a thread I started on IETF > SAAG mailing list this summer. I had to write up my second year PhD=20 > report, and move apartments in the mean time, so I have not yet been=20= > able to follow the activity here, but will have time now. >=20 > My paper was published at the International Semantic Web conference > and I put it online here: >=20 > = https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fmediu= m.com%2F%40bblfish%2Fepistemology-in-the-cloud-472fad4c8282&data=3D02%= 7C01%7Ckirsty.p%40ncsc.gov.uk%7Cb8f1af6d83a14a59f7ad08d661c8c5aa%7C14aa574= 4ece1474ea2d734f46dda64a1%7C0%7C0%7C636803912285466919&sdata=3DiN5BTpi= UrD%2FTFyOZShwANcNPH0rEnvLm2H1dlBqWaUc%3D&reserved=3D0 >=20 > with a number of follow up blog posts. >=20 > I would be happy to try to adapt this paper to get it published > somewhere that could start a discussion with people involved in > thinking about security issues - I am trying to make semantic web > and security folks meet, which is about as difficult as getting > hippies to work with army folks. :-) If you have ideas what would be > the best place to do that I'd be happy to try. And of course I'd=20 > be happy to know that questions this paper raises in this community > so that I can try to address them. >=20 >=20 > Sincerely, >=20 > Henry Story > = https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fco-op= erating.systems%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7Ckirsty.p%40ncsc.gov.uk%7Cb8f1af6d8= 3a14a59f7ad08d661c8c5aa%7C14aa5744ece1474ea2d734f46dda64a1%7C0%7C0%7C63680= 3912285466919&sdata=3D2KIcrdke%2BDSigWq%2Fn754ultFa2VXUMpZFBEs1TqWc0A%= 3D&reserved=3D0 >=20 > --=20 > Smart mailing list > Smart@irtf.org > = https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.i= rtf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fsmart&data=3D02%7C01%7Ckirsty.p%40ncsc.= gov.uk%7Cb8f1af6d83a14a59f7ad08d661c8c5aa%7C14aa5744ece1474ea2d734f46dda64= a1%7C0%7C0%7C636803912285466919&sdata=3D1JyxOFlO47rpe4qWQlkeAsHWagFr89= 9PbbbBs3PKh10%3D&reserved=3D0 > This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 = (FOIA) and may be exempt under other UK information legislation. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SMART folks, Happy holidays! Hopefully most of you will pick up this email after the fes= tivities, but for those of you still at work - this season, I'm giving the = gift of Github! (Gifthub?) You can find SMART's Github page here: https://github.com/smart-rg/ It's a place to post new drafts and collaborate on existing drafts, while w= e get our IRTF pages sorted out... But that's not all. I've also put our draft charter on there, which is ready and waiting for yo= ur comments! I hope you find it useful in establishing what SMART aims to d= o, and how you can get involved. If you have any questions/comments/suggest= ions, please share them with the list and let's have a good discussion abou= t it. Thanks everyone, and see you in 2019! Kirsty This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA)= and may be exempt under other UK information legislation. 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SMART folks,


Happy holidays! Hopefully most of= you will pick up this email after the festivities, but for those of you st= ill at work - this season, I'm giving the gift of Github! (Gifthub?)


You can find SMART's Github&= nbsp;page here: https://github.com= /smart-rg/

= It's a place to post new = drafts and collaborate on existing drafts, while we get our IRTF pages= sorted out... But that's not all.


I've also put our draft charter o= n there, which is ready and waiting for your comments! I hope you find= it useful in establishing what SMART aims to do, and how you can get invol= ved. If you have any questions/comments/suggestions, please share them with the list and let's have a good discussion about it.


Thanks everyone, and see you in 2= 019!


Kirsty



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