From ulrich@herberg.name Fri Oct 26 18:50:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31B421F8604 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:50:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tS9bwJm3NlKQ for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da0-f44.google.com (mail-da0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D29921F85EA for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-da0-f44.google.com with SMTP id h15so1524637dan.31 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:50:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=herberg.name; s=dkim; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=LlxdpEpUxyeLRNyVp987qI7AU/WxIJ94V4r4DLd7qRk=; b=h1W9iXv3FnD+PlklqjIuadAcwPiknfk75vcFbL65Hs812XUZ28dmJZ1STPs/3W3j1V 7KhyX7Z3q5EAb36VsfcERXiWOdbbx2cy+J3WPNomUId+XXfyaFboxbu//hIagjogT2JM Aa2UdejQPyo+jwkmfyKevB+mMF8obQSO16y0I= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to:x-gm-message-state; bh=LlxdpEpUxyeLRNyVp987qI7AU/WxIJ94V4r4DLd7qRk=; b=lVtZmQlV7Bo2bogX1fXvnhhol3Z6XGfGAIrUdp1eTHBOM/QGxjaIfr5sFBWi/LNjfE 0hYsptGnFv9gaW/mJwd14gsHMnX6NlsZobsm24511+2qSlBmch4lVysqQvjtAp7wnCCK ncnMEtyKB0M/0SNcPyXoutRy13vqMG4zSG1Ae4R3WqoOdLkQVazbLtoh0Ya5lwZ82dQj RyP95gLNvDMYlh3tU6tVbeHSYIMaBKHCDMpKfUob9hHw24DmcHrq3JJqyglPVokWCArj rkS9pf7R016CBw7eZBwZv/nK/sP2FOlUOltlDmMkmWUhddjLVk1FRLF+5FTNnk1oTZsH 8LwQ== Received: by 10.66.78.4 with SMTP id x4mr66528421paw.60.1351302636903; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.5] (c-76-102-41-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [76.102.41.234]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gl9sm2011666pbc.51.2012.10.26.18.50.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:50:35 -0700 (PDT) References: <20120917172028.27525.47640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A403) From: Ulrich Herberg Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:50:33 -0700 To: "sarikaya@ieee.org" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk+4sMFPtliKq23Ex5YYdXRozkSnDKs8lFiMrFp2cpmbK16Ij7+4amHu8e4w3+AqvVCUCj4 Cc: "solace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:50:38 -0000 Hi Behcet, I admit that I have only skimmed the draft... As SOLACE is a new activity, I= am unclear about the scope of the group. It seems to me that we need more d= iscussion about what the actual problem and the use cases are, before lookin= g into the solution space.=20 With your framework, would you say that existing IETF standards are sufficie= nt to bootstrap smart objects, or are there missing pieces? Will there be any meeting of SOLACE in Atlanta? Best Ulrich On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:23, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: > Dear all, > I have submitted a framework draft on Securely Setting Up Smart > Objects. You can access it using this link: >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-= 00.txt >=20 > The aim is to start some discussions in the solace list. >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Behcet Sarikaya and posted to the > IETF repository. >=20 > Filename: draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework > Revision: 00 > Title: Framework for Securely Setting Up Smart Objects > Creation date: 2012-09-17 > WG ID: Individual Submission > Number of pages: 18 > URL: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-= 00.txt > Status: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework > Htmlized: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00 >=20 >=20 > Abstract: > This document describes a framework for initially configuring smart > objects securely. Initial setup architecture, communication channel > and bootstrap security methods are described. >=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Behcet >=20 > The IETF Secretariat > _______________________________________________ > solace mailing list > solace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace From cabo@tzi.org Sat Oct 27 03:43:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D5421F84E9 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:43:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.228 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.228 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1GskXI2164kB for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF9221F84D7 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:43:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q9RAhKL4001156; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:43:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.217.117] (p548935F1.dip.t-dialin.net [84.137.53.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14FC48BC; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:43:20 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:43:19 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <42D37B91-2042-4F8E-AFC7-2581C67A5022@tzi.org> References: <20120917172028.27525.47640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Ulrich Herberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: "sarikaya@ieee.org" , "solace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:43:38 -0000 On Oct 27, 2012, at 03:50, Ulrich Herberg wrote: > Will there be any meeting of SOLACE in Atlanta? Many people who were interested in Vancouver indicated that they won't = come to Atlanta. So I didn't go ahead and formulated the call for contributions I had = planned. But that doesn't have to stop us from having some form of gathering. I see both Sye Loong and Behcet on the list of attendees. Cullen is there, too, although I'm not sure he can spare time from the = rtcweb frenzy. Who would be available for a Sunday afternoon slot (e.g., before the = reception)? Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten From ulrich@herberg.name Sat Oct 27 19:51:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AFA21F8691 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:51:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tvq+SywxHIuV for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3B421F868E for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fc26so4624094vbb.31 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:51:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=herberg.name; s=dkim; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=z8qhMVoaJvBNiOltFAGxHBzgse+AIBFWSMUQdk7r+80=; b=HfqJIYD5i0+lfiOXoZwlPelc7gUSi28qIh+H1awTlFOaO6GvCcxuk/j+haytyOmS/H Tr6RN5gpdXzqX+80Cnkvy18SDMlVDXkNb2cUnkgYKgWk4jdKNVN0bwS7+N4z0b/Q/8DN Jm3vX+VvLguXi5B9Y0c6dijmA724zU5YzmlLI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=z8qhMVoaJvBNiOltFAGxHBzgse+AIBFWSMUQdk7r+80=; b=T0kY6ppCzzgkeNYKKGX30xUWseaQZd62Q91ttkW35jbmWc3ThY7hUw0Xr/QwdkbsIt f5Ot0f6I8RNd8rYagsx/OLXf0hESg9IqE92/tVdtAKzRKi04aAYM9g1MzS4y//Ftu10u 2E4MXFYmMZiONwdFRV+GmnKgN9Xz4B7S0nQhCf/pypI8FAcqE3vo5Akl5wmK1fP06ICB bC4kpX1GKWpcrGxPzJ6fOX64SyDQMR/fsFFnPFBdufUrOruKH27fIEPr0ikDBy/jvQ38 rRPaFweqMqDICqBbz7witEiarg151SCjeN59CVd91SKDm65ImiSYa+78uWdFP9BOt8NZ +G0Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.150.82 with SMTP id x18mr3491689vcv.73.1351392690957; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.94.103 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:51:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <42D37B91-2042-4F8E-AFC7-2581C67A5022@tzi.org> References: <20120917172028.27525.47640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <42D37B91-2042-4F8E-AFC7-2581C67A5022@tzi.org> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:51:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ulrich Herberg To: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnalBshahCoiQfnPhyqwDNNXfNWGv0kaxyykojVpzhX99tHOjc4Lkf6aT9kD2LXVrxOkODe Cc: "sarikaya@ieee.org" , "solace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:51:37 -0000 On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > [...] > > Who would be available for a Sunday afternoon slot (e.g., before the reception)? I am available on Sunday. Best Ulrich From sye.loong.keoh@philips.com Sun Oct 28 02:51:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A927621F86D2 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:51:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.185 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dSf3LmYPbOWv for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (ch1ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.182]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF4721F86D1 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail83-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.243) by CH1EHSOBE010.bigfish.com (10.43.70.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:51:18 +0000 Received: from mail83-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail83-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47962C01F3; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:51:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.55.7.222; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:mail.philips.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -33 X-BigFish: VPS-33(zz217bI98dI15d6O9371I9251Jd6eah1432Izz1202h1d1ah1d2ahzz1033IL8275dhz2dh2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh1155h) Received: from mail83-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail83-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1351417876444849_30031; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS031.bigfish.com (snatpool3.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.229]) by mail83-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7AC440248; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.philips.com (157.55.7.222) by CH1EHSMHS031.bigfish.com (10.43.70.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:51:16 +0000 Received: from 011-DB3MPN1-032.MGDPHG.emi.philips.com ([169.254.2.110]) by 011-DB3MMR1-009.MGDPHG.emi.philips.com ([10.128.28.48]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.003; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:51:14 +0000 From: "Keoh, Sye Loong" To: Ulrich Herberg , Carsten Bormann Thread-Topic: [solace] New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHNlPk0ghBzxLk1yUOJdzjIWTnuqZfMoPSAgACU24CAAQ6BAIAAdO2o Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:51:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20120917172028.27525.47640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <42D37B91-2042-4F8E-AFC7-2581C67A5022@tzi.org>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [86.92.83.29] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: philips.com Cc: "sarikaya@ieee.org" , "solace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:51:20 -0000 Hi Carsten, I will arrive on Sunday evening, maybe a lunch get-together during IETF? cheers Sye Loong ________________________________________ From: solace-bounces@ietf.org [solace-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Ulrich= Herberg [ulrich@herberg.name] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:51 AM To: Carsten Bormann Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org; solace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-sola= ce-setup-framework-00.txt On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > [...] > > Who would be available for a Sunday afternoon slot (e.g., before the rece= ption)? 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From yoshihiro.ohba@toshiba.co.jp Sun Oct 28 18:00:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC04321F87EE for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:00:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.089 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.089 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a4rLMIcVPpji for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imx2.toshiba.co.jp (inet-tsb5.toshiba.co.jp [202.33.96.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB45221F8778 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arc1.toshiba.co.jp ([133.199.194.235]) by imx2.toshiba.co.jp with ESMTP id q9T10gex003794; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:00:42 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by arc1.toshiba.co.jp id q9T10g7V009367; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:00:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown [133.199.192.144] by arc1.toshiba.co.jp with ESMTP id LAA09364; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:00:42 +0900 Received: from mx.toshiba.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ovp2.toshiba.co.jp with ESMTP id q9T10gU7018387; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:00:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from tsbpoa.po.toshiba.co.jp by toshiba.co.jp id q9T10fRi010869; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:00:41 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.196.20.219] by mail.po.toshiba.co.jp (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTPSA id <0MCM00CH9QT5GZ00@mail.po.toshiba.co.jp>; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:00:41 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:00:47 +0900 From: Yoshihiro Ohba In-reply-to: To: Ulrich Herberg Message-id: <508DD53F.2030303@toshiba.co.jp> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20120917172028.27525.47640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <42D37B91-2042-4F8E-AFC7-2581C67A5022@tzi.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 Cc: Carsten Bormann , "sarikaya@ieee.org" , "solace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:00:50 -0000 Me too. Yoshihiro ohba (2012/10/28 11:51), Ulrich Herberg wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> [...] >> >> Who would be available for a Sunday afternoon slot (e.g., before the reception)? > > I am available on Sunday. > > Best > Ulrich > _______________________________________________ > solace mailing list > solace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace > From paul.chilton@nxp.com Mon Oct 29 00:00:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5537521F863C for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:00:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aoDeoiZ-cAJ1 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from be1ssnxpe1.nxp.com (be1ssnxpe1.nxp.com [57.67.164.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDE821F8510 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EU1RDCRDC1VW024.exi.nxp.com ([134.27.176.169]) by be1ssnxpe1.nxp.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q9T6xv3F016862 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 29 Oct 2012 07:59:57 +0100 Received: from eu1rdcrdc1wx032.exi.nxp.com ([134.27.179.186]) by EU1RDCRDC1VW024.exi.nxp.com ([134.27.176.169]) with mapi; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 07:59:57 +0100 From: Paul Chilton To: Carsten Bormann Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 07:59:56 +0100 Thread-Topic: [solace] New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt Thread-Index: Ac20L+/PMQ2INOOUQH6tP3fOS5QLwwBcsc0w Message-ID: <927C66C0775CCA43B88EB1E3006614B3BDE58C12@eu1rdcrdc1wx032.exi.nxp.com> References: <20120917172028.27525.47640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <42D37B91-2042-4F8E-AFC7-2581C67A5022@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <42D37B91-2042-4F8E-AFC7-2581C67A5022@tzi.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "solace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 07:00:01 -0000 I am available on Sunday Paul -----Original Message----- From: solace-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:solace-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Carsten Bormann Sent: 27 October 2012 11:43 To: Ulrich Herberg Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org; solace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-solace-se= tup-framework-00.txt On Oct 27, 2012, at 03:50, Ulrich Herberg wrote: > Will there be any meeting of SOLACE in Atlanta? Many people who were interested in Vancouver indicated that they won't come= to Atlanta. So I didn't go ahead and formulated the call for contributions I had planne= d. But that doesn't have to stop us from having some form of gathering. I see both Sye Loong and Behcet on the list of attendees. Cullen is there, too, although I'm not sure he can spare time from the rtcw= eb frenzy. Who would be available for a Sunday afternoon slot (e.g., before the recept= ion)? Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten _______________________________________________ solace mailing list solace@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace From mehmet.ersue@nsn.com Mon Oct 29 02:19:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F1621F8549 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:19:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LhU4+2d7np3O for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D71D21F8540 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9T9IwcB024643 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:18:58 +0100 Received: from DEMUEXC047.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.32.93]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9T9IvT8012190; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:18:58 +0100 Received: from DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.18]) by DEMUEXC047.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:18:32 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:18:31 +0100 Message-ID: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A640455E992@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> In-Reply-To: <927C66C0775CCA43B88EB1E3006614B3BDE58C12@eu1rdcrdc1wx032.exi.nxp.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [solace] New Version Notificationfor draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt Thread-Index: Ac20L+/PMQ2INOOUQH6tP3fOS5QLwwBcsc0wAATE6BA= References: <20120917172028.27525.47640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com><42D37B91-2042-4F8E-AFC7-2581C67A5022@tzi.org> <927C66C0775CCA43B88EB1E3006614B3BDE58C12@eu1rdcrdc1wx032.exi.nxp.com> From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: "ext Paul Chilton" , "Carsten Bormann" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2012 09:18:32.0092 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D7F6DC0:01CDB5B6] X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 1855 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1351502338-000048BF-D9D03703/0-0/0-0 Cc: solace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notificationfor draft-sarikaya-solace-setup-framework-00.txt X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:19:02 -0000 We have the NETCONF test event on Sunday. If not possible on any other = day, I can try to make it. Would Tuesday or Friday after the Core session an option? Cheers,=20 Mehmet=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: solace-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:solace-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of ext Paul > Chilton > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:00 AM > To: Carsten Bormann > Cc: solace@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notificationfor = draft-sarikaya-solace-setup- > framework-00.txt >=20 > I am available on Sunday > Paul >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: solace-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:solace-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Carsten > Bormann > Sent: 27 October 2012 11:43 > To: Ulrich Herberg > Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org; solace@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [solace] New Version Notification for = draft-sarikaya-solace-setup- > framework-00.txt >=20 > On Oct 27, 2012, at 03:50, Ulrich Herberg wrote: >=20 > > Will there be any meeting of SOLACE in Atlanta? >=20 > Many people who were interested in Vancouver indicated that they won't = come to > Atlanta. > So I didn't go ahead and formulated the call for contributions I had = planned. > But that doesn't have to stop us from having some form of gathering. > I see both Sye Loong and Behcet on the list of attendees. > Cullen is there, too, although I'm not sure he can spare time from the = rtcweb frenzy. >=20 > Who would be available for a Sunday afternoon slot (e.g., before the = reception)? >=20 > Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten >=20 > _______________________________________________ > solace mailing list > solace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace > _______________________________________________ > solace mailing list > solace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace From cabo@tzi.org Mon Oct 29 10:48:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B1F21F86EA; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:48:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ENR-w95KubpX; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D7421F86CD; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:48:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q9THlOWB026270; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:47:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from eduroam-0380.wlan.uni-bremen.de (eduroam-0380.wlan.uni-bremen.de [134.102.17.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 93CC4F6; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:47:24 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <508EBD6B.1070606@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:47:24 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <015901cdb0d3$d38cf1f0$7aa6d5d0$@a-star.edu.sg> <1116.1351177270@sandelman.ca> <02a101cdb5f5$51109a70$f331cf50$@a-star.edu.sg> <508EBD6B.1070606@cs.tcd.ie> To: Stephen Farrell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: "Turner, Sean P." , 6lowpan@ietf.org, "roll@ietf.org WG" , "solace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [solace] [6lowpan] [Roll] slot for New Version of draft-qiu-roll-kemp-02.txt X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:48:58 -0000 On Oct 29, 2012, at 18:31, Stephen Farrell = wrote: >=20 > Carsten, all, >=20 > On 10/29/2012 04:56 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> On Oct 29, 2012, at 17:49, QIU Ying = wrote: >>=20 >>> which WG is best >>=20 >> I think right now we don't know that. >> All WGs in the CN/N cluster have the problem and have some = unfulfilled charter item in this space. >> So we can continue to play tourists and use the WG that happens to = have the largest amount of space on the agenda... >>=20 >> In SOLACE, we are discussing right now when to meet during the = Atlanta IETF. >=20 > Would it be timely to spend 10 minutes on this during the saag > session? Splendid idea! By Thursday, we should have a somewhat clearer idea of what we want to = do. > I'd really like that the security area not end up being surprised > by whatever is eventually decided so getting a presentation at > saag would be useful at the point where you more or less know > the direction, but are still flexible enough to deal with someone > who e.g. points out significant security issues. >=20 > It might be that waiting another meeting cycle or two would be > better if the basic ideas aren't yet firmed up. >=20 > So, is this work far enough advanced already for that to be > productive now or is it still so early it'd be counter-productive? > (And presenting at saag before you're ready could very well > be counter-productive - it can be a tough audience;-) Oh, there will be no technical presentation at this point. These 10 minutes would be about alerting the security community about = this activity. (See my ROLL slides from Vancouver -- = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-roll-11.pdf) What we want to do first is=20 a) collecting more fleshed out approaches, documenting how precisely = they work, and b) identifying gaps in the existing standards, if any. If we are successful in getting structure into this, then there might be 1) "system standards" that explain how to tie things together, as well = as=20 2) potentially point activities addressing these gaps (but these will = not be "SOLACE"). Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten