From nobody Fri Jul 1 09:34:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietf.org Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5984B12D763; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 09:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.25.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160701163413.24636.35697.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 09:34:13 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: spasm@ietf.org, lamps-chairs@ietf.org, The IESG Subject: [Spasm] WG Action: Formed Limited Additional Mechanisms for PKIX and SMIME (lamps) X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 16:34:13 -0000 A new IETF WG has been formed in the Security Area. For additional information, please contact the Area Directors or the WG Chair. Limited Additional Mechanisms for PKIX and SMIME (lamps) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Current status: Proposed WG Chairs: Russ Housley Assigned Area Director: Stephen Farrell Security Area Directors: Stephen Farrell Kathleen Moriarty Mailing list: Address: spasm@ietf.org To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/spasm/ Charter: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-lamps/ The PKIX and S/MIME Working Groups have been closed for some time. Some updates have been proposed to the X.509 certificate documents produced by the PKIX Working Group and the electronic mail security documents produced by the S/MIME Working Group. The LAMPS (Limited Additional Mechanisms for PKIX and SMIME) Working Group is chartered to make updates where there is a known constituency interested in real deployment and there is at least one sufficiently well specified approach to the update so that the working group can sensibly evaluate whether to adopt a proposal. The current charter encompasses updates to satisfy the following needs: 1. Specify the way to include an i18n email address as a subject alternative name and an issuer alternative name. draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses is a proposal in this space. 2. Specify the way to use authenticated encryption in S/MIME. draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis is a proposal in this space. In addition, the LAMPS Working Group may investigate other updates to the documents produced by the PKIX and S/MIME Working Groups, but the LAMPS Working Group shall not adopt any of these potential work items without rechartering. No such re-chartering is envisaged until one or more of the above work items have been successfully delivered to the RFC editor queue. Milestones: Jul 2016 - WG adoption of a draft to specify the way to use authenticated encryption in S/MIME Jul 2016 - WG adoption of a draft to specify the way to include an i18n email address as a subject alternative name and an issuer alternative name Jan 2017 - WGLC for a draft to specify the way to include an i18n email address as a subject alternative name and an issuer alternative name Apr 2017 - WGLC for draft to specify the way to use authenticated encryption in S/MIME From nobody Fri Jul 1 17:22:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E3E12D59E for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:22:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MMzny3U_mK19 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout-07.mxes.net (mxout-07.mxes.net [216.86.168.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E111612D74C for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.4.132] (unknown [208.77.234.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EF93E22E255; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Sean Leonard In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:22:16 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6c58ff04-1af1-b3f9-dbb9-2a4534616f6d@seantek.com> To: Alexey Melnikov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Cc: spasm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Spasm] Want us to do LDAP eaiMail, or decide for someone else to do it X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2016 00:22:19 -0000 > On Jun 30, 2016, at 11:49 PM, Alexey Melnikov = wrote: >=20 > Hi Sean, >=20 >> On 30 Jun 2016, at 22:20, Sean Leonard wrote: >>=20 >> Hello LAMPS (formerly SPASM): >>=20 >> Further to my comments last week, it's important that the IETF = standardize on how to encode internationalized e-mail addresses in = Directories (LDAP), and by extension, Directory-related protocol slots. >=20 > I agree that that would be desirable. There might have been LDAP = related draft(s) on this topic already? Two drafts: draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject (September 2014) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stroeder-mailboxrelatedobject-07 (I raised objections on the ldap mailing list(s), about the = case-insensitive comparison issues and such.) and a much older one: draft-hall-ldap-idn (June 2003) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hall-ldap-idn-00 I would say that the hall-ldap-idn one is pretty dead by now. >=20 >> It would be nice if this WG decides whether that work is in-scope for = here. Ideally, to reduce implementation errors and duplicate code, the = format of the attribute should be the same as the format of the eaiName = GeneralName option under discussion. (I.e., if we decide on UTF8String = with U-labels--which is what it's trending towards--we use the same = format for the LDAP attribute.) >>=20 >> Conversely, if people feel that it's not in-scope here, then it = should be considered in-scope for some other IETF area (or get directly = sponsored), and coordinated appropriately with this eaiName work and = with the LDAP folks. >=20 > Probably not in scope for this WG, but I would be happy to AD sponsor = this one. Okay. I can write something up (at some point this year), reference the = SPASM->LAMPS work, and basically follow along with what the LAMPS draft = says. >=20 >> So, uh, how shall this proceed? Should it get a time slot at the IETF = 96 meeting to talk about what people want to do? >=20 > In LAMPS or somewhere else? I was referring to LAMPS: =E2=80=9Cget a time slot in LAMPS to talk = about (and get hums on) = this-is-how-we-will-prescribe-doing-the-LDAP-thing based on this work = here.=E2=80=9D Maybe too formal, since the WG isn=E2=80=99t going to do = it? Sean From nobody Sun Jul 3 08:55:39 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1764412D0C3 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 08:55:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id djTcaFJAdGs5 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59D3812D0A2 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.7] (unknown [75.83.2.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A0E3509B6 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 11:55:34 -0400 (EDT) References: <20160703154702.9335.29046.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: spasm@ietf.org From: Sean Leonard X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20160703154702.9335.29046.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 08:55:08 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160703154702.9335.29046.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: [Spasm] New Version Notification for draft-seantek-certspec-07.txt X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 15:55:38 -0000 draft-seantek-certspec-07 is posted, based on public and private=20 feedback received. Comments appreciated. (Wei and I discussed this offline, and agreed not to standardize on=20 SPKI/SHA-256 identification, as it's internal to Chromium.) This version changes some terms. E.g., "certattrs" is now "pkcsattrs",=20 and the term "content" is now the term "entity" (=3D RFC 2045 MIME=20 entity). The ABNF is much better specified. I also added a spec specific = to attribute certificates (HOLDEREXP) and a spec for Windows Registry=20 keys and values. Regards, Sean -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-seantek-certspec-07.txt Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 08:47:02 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Sean Leonard A new version of I-D, draft-seantek-certspec-07.txt has been successfully submitted by Sean Leonard and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-seantek-certspec Revision: 07 Title: Textual Specification for Certificates and Attributes Document date: 2016-07-03 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 32 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-seantek-certsp= ec-07.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-seantek-certspec/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seantek-certspec-07 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-seantek-certspe= c-07 Abstract: Digital certificates are used in many systems and protocols to identify and authenticate parties. This document describes a string format that identifies certificates, along with optional attributes. This string format has been engineered to work without re-encoding in= a variety of protocol slots. From nobody Tue Jul 5 13:38:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EE712D193; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 13:38:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.727 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.727 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cs.tcd.ie Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FVgsA2tPnEIQ; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 13:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9768C12B03E; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 13:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A44BE2C; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 21:38:21 +0100 (IST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fxjDdf8BPwZ4; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 21:38:19 +0100 (IST) Received: from [10.87.48.75] (95-45-153-252-dynamic.agg2.phb.bdt-fng.eircom.net [95.45.153.252]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6CF63BE25; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 21:38:19 +0100 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1467751099; bh=oUDRiqnrllHapetF82sMealvbMH6RtsshJSWJkdqNGA=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=ZtEIfGW/+tTzpHwnCcs+mXmjCt+bO/N2zaUsF8n7kd0EEYs6PdBZI0f90lVAFfmlj unloDItb7BqhQxULy7Z6KbzP3mqwXn9S0TYsTrsYGLraGXRq0QxJ9wIkVh8e4PMPY2 PurTUNkFRYBS3PVaeR/Q52lh/3PJCLZwmTe5iFAE= To: "spasm@ietf.org" , "curdle@ietf.org" From: Stephen Farrell Openpgp: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= Message-ID: <577C1ABB.4010809@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 21:38:19 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms030806040400070007050306" Archived-At: Subject: [Spasm] move lamps meeting slot to Friday? X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 20:38:28 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030806040400070007050306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hiya, We've gotten a request to move the lamps meeting slot back to Friday at 12:20 instead of curdle, which would then remain cancelled. (There is one overlapping issue that will be discussed in any case.) That would put lamps against: rtcweb, lwig, ntp, tictoc, bfd and aqm. The reason to ask for the move was that we have a contributor for whom the quic conflict is a problem. As of now, lamps is on Wednesday 10:00 against avtcore, mmusic, dhc, bmwg, netconf, rtgwg, ace, trans and quic. If this change would be good for you or a problem for you please let me know off or on list, ideally before Monday, July 11. 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Stephen Farrell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Cc: "spasm@ietf.org" , "curdle@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Spasm] move lamps meeting slot to Friday? X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 20:40:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2F53D7E9-F162-47CC-9B37-34C338119500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 As I=E2=80=99d like to attend both quic and lamps, +1 > On 5 Jul 2016, at 11:38 PM, Stephen Farrell = wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hiya, >=20 > We've gotten a request to move the lamps meeting slot > back to Friday at 12:20 instead of curdle, which would > then remain cancelled. (There is one overlapping issue > that will be discussed in any case.) >=20 > That would put lamps against: rtcweb, lwig, ntp, tictoc, > bfd and aqm. >=20 > The reason to ask for the move was that we have a > contributor for whom the quic conflict is a problem. >=20 > As of now, lamps is on Wednesday 10:00 against avtcore, > mmusic, dhc, bmwg, netconf, rtgwg, ace, trans and > quic. >=20 > If this change would be good for you or a problem for > you please let me know off or on list, ideally before > Monday, July 11. >=20 > Thanks, > S. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm --Apple-Mail=_2F53D7E9-F162-47CC-9B37-34C338119500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXfBtCAAoJECXR4BOacZZUovAIAMeavnU89GPB6H/9JQU0jEjq j1a0I6QZWWrbZf3oaroXsj5AJWWDKv7MjhZW25E+w++12CI+ZbyTojVwBpoL8fN9 iKizuV6PS9fYrIZVVeswjsnJlTDjkOUEGn6LzfZVUJrF+dM9OOQqOt6TyjHWbFWE /dsSpiU2K0M9WzV/76QmizYAwvo6fKFJjtsd8CGW/4tfhKa5Dum2MmK2phGiVL4d Ce4a3+LTsa/uk5pl0CfJojd02Ff6kgjFayinOahgelVAPqgaavaeMjcuMmoeJW7I r9w9O/Yiydisn05Xc1fgy0gpC50D9LNxk+GLi08/0Lsnd8FaSDRk7YJKseFS6Gk= =/rqr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_2F53D7E9-F162-47CC-9B37-34C338119500-- From nobody Wed Jul 6 07:21:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059ED12D684 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 07:21:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=sn3rd.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AubInWyNrHpC for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 07:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-x229.google.com (mail-qk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A1F412D796 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2016 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk0-x229.google.com with SMTP id t127so315829795qkf.1 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sn3rd.com; s=google; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=oQQRZBNSqIJ/eMgNuaVT4migCX/3RNpsBpVGM5y6wVQ=; b=cN8X/BamHIBzz5UDemXm9uXsDcqBYkza+HdVPTqPLRf6OoRfIw6GEyReOObwL9dHPe a9PNS7RxY5YAJLrojUWXdPR3cvm8CeO/tLN81XDP2Etf63RHJmPvmYEwDdeH/vwMRiR0 rMPyaEZ54clKhBcGWTkit9eBMtE9yBTBgNUew= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=oQQRZBNSqIJ/eMgNuaVT4migCX/3RNpsBpVGM5y6wVQ=; b=Teo2aThbVEA2UgorMqBxC3A/2sQuke3zcPBlp08WBCoFgfjxYH0VyDiOX4ivqQo+8u jWbwFdg3UxvVfOtHqEjew8QW3YCIBpnoiQ8zjVAeZ3QQsRFVuNE4nQPkIx7TLENN1SDv dtIibl2fBfG+txF616COG8tbVyOYu5F1Nc9l4HEl0g9UZkmqYu/MOU+A5cKrydkStRDR 2JJCbYOIt2kZStSBUFtbMhDNV2tT96gTpWpFROiIzKzVnreI9DGGi/XoyWTN3K3ggZPp PUxXp07DYJgWdI3FTW7eSozYprj27cixXyxQSEhX+dUfF0+Etdct80zcR2r107vt1yxb WUfw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKFXaj00zb1fU35ZrHE0j8CQOm7zEBihL8Fu/MnroJ92deaP+YalUp+edAcp8A+Dg== X-Received: by 10.55.170.20 with SMTP id t20mr23615842qke.162.1467814800699; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 07:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.0.112] ([96.231.230.69]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u87sm58790qkl.30.2016.07.06.07.19.59 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Jul 2016 07:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Sean Turner In-Reply-To: <1A4B72E6-6063-427B-B902-AFA9144ACD2E@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:19:58 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <577C1ABB.4010809@cs.tcd.ie> <1A4B72E6-6063-427B-B902-AFA9144ACD2E@gmail.com> To: Stephen Farrell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Cc: "spasm@ietf.org" , "curdle@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Spasm] move lamps meeting slot to Friday? X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 14:21:04 -0000 rtcweb is a conflict for me (co-chair) but since I=E2=80=99ll be remote = I can be in two rooms at once ;) spt > On Jul 05, 2016, at 16:40, Yoav Nir wrote: >=20 > As I=E2=80=99d like to attend both quic and lamps, +1 >=20 >> On 5 Jul 2016, at 11:38 PM, Stephen Farrell = wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> Hiya, >>=20 >> We've gotten a request to move the lamps meeting slot >> back to Friday at 12:20 instead of curdle, which would >> then remain cancelled. (There is one overlapping issue >> that will be discussed in any case.) >>=20 >> That would put lamps against: rtcweb, lwig, ntp, tictoc, >> bfd and aqm. >>=20 >> The reason to ask for the move was that we have a >> contributor for whom the quic conflict is a problem. >>=20 >> As of now, lamps is on Wednesday 10:00 against avtcore, >> mmusic, dhc, bmwg, netconf, rtgwg, ace, trans and >> quic. >>=20 >> If this change would be good for you or a problem for >> you please let me know off or on list, ideally before >> Monday, July 11. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> S. >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Spasm mailing list >> Spasm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm From nobody Fri Jul 8 00:26:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A557312D0EC for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 00:26:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.116 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.116 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT=0.01] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K4U9dxmso0nv for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 00:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x22c.google.com (mail-oi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CE1912B03F for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 00:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id u201so53346436oie.0 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 00:16:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=P8KMgPNLzSyJzZFZ5oSBl6/BEBpjDQ5+ppxvVM0G04o=; b=FqLkGyVTjmFGJMhhRMODf85cwihjpQt2l7B2Gk9ojs+b1SrtklQAquvjyZsmQV6gbN XIMg4EswlKMLVlOLO+xU8ri+RRL36IUD1KAZax4cC1FzqXt4BbsVTA/gdSPHt6pgQIN/ Dvyv7Mypwv+Oa1WA5dAn9J4UgviXmUnPR93zJpvKIcTO8qsBUHMBpfv13XoHd+sTrtQI Ho2y8jAkgbJYjtZoC/W3qHggOcYvRoYkPqkOAD5r+mfnLSfPiYq4f1pkKXaLS8oc8b14 3D8e5baqIe88ZddwShimGCZBESkE5Rj+LYDMMGJuo+h9LVfo2IRPwJwjz1TrJr+cNyHh l2WQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=P8KMgPNLzSyJzZFZ5oSBl6/BEBpjDQ5+ppxvVM0G04o=; b=c15XazX1/SBAezlh/ZeC7avnb/Up5InLBcJ2skiLXT5BBqwEDXC8pxHJzPc9iAVzbx 7T1HvXl6WcSLfkQcogA9HuNG6Bjf3kFljJv2K6d6p3Syh7Az8L4nmmpvJNZqqxkQV5Dw J3kSq3G9IYezKuNnwSGk0malQk6zhaIXQSn0OKSpTYXXHluGZYWL0lqew9OXq4aIJ/Gi fgbEnWfNHfQdZxvoMfHWBg4zmVhqLpUZm3b3Q+EPxLMUK6f4kASEPaW7vh/G63lAiZBk rvVonY3IHznMltGKep0f6dTfIgjYeQNEMM6q/N0tItPGmdlTVhroQnCI75BOAqFv7nxP Xcgw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKFsZAD1MQk1BS3jk6sMIVgQq16CVBkMNt/bGUSxno4iZ/f68lOFg61yBV4AolYJfpWjd6fHlfPlmrFMC5y X-Received: by 10.157.25.168 with SMTP id k37mr2419289otk.10.1467962211231; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 00:16:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.27.139 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 00:16:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Wei Chuang Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 00:16:50 -0700 Message-ID: To: spasm@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c09b38625424905371a96f4 Archived-At: Subject: [Spasm] Updated draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." 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Name: draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses Revision: 03 Title: Internationalized Email Addresses in X.509 certificates Document date: 2016-07-07 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-melnikov-spasm- eai-addresses-03.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai- addresses/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai- addresses-03 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-melnikov-spasm-eai- addresses-03 Abstract: This document defines a new name form for inclusion in the otherName field of an X.509 Subject Alternative Name extension that allows a certificate subject to be associated with an Internationalized Email Address. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --94eb2c09b38625424905371a96f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi all,
This draft incorporates feedback about internationalization, unicode and language updates.

Your feedback is very much welcome.

-Wei and Alexey


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A new version of I-D, draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt
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Name:           draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses
Revision:       03
Title:          Internationalized Email Addresses in X.509 certificates
Document date:  2016-07-07
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          6
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses/
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Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03

Abstract:
   This document defines a new name form for inclusion in the otherName
   field of an X.509 Subject Alternative Name extension that allows a
   certificate subject to be associated with an Internationalized Email
   Address.




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--94eb2c09b38625424905371a96f4-- From nobody Fri Jul 8 08:41:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6798912D5BC for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 08:41:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.619 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.619 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eKAk-zaNWzql for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 08:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail04.dandomain.dk (mail04.dandomain.dk [194.150.112.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BC1B12D51B for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 08:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Morten ([62.44.135.69]) by mail04.dandomain.dk (DanDomain Mailserver) with ASMTP id 4201607081741063433; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 17:41:06 +0200 From: "Erik Andersen" To: "'Wei Chuang'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 17:41:07 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01d1d92f$251fb3e0$6f5f1ba0$@x500.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01D1D93F.E8AC0650" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQIQtsDv6BMTaRyxGBFb5I1TeqwEvZ+Q7WVg Content-Language: en-gb Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Spasm] Updated draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 15:41:15 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01D1D93F.E8AC0650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 I wonder why you did not add a new component to the GeneralName data = type as shown below. Processing will be easier and you do not have to = defined a (long) IETF OID. =20 GeneralName ::=3D CHOICE { otherName [0] INSTANCE OF OTHER-NAME, rfc822Name [1] IA5String, dNSName [2] IA5String, x400Address [3] ORAddress, directoryName [4] Name, ediPartyName [5] EDIPartyName, uniformResourceIdentifier [6] IA5String, iPAddress [7] OCTET STRING, registeredID [8] OBJECT IDENTIFIER, ..., smtputf8Name name [9] UTF8String (SIZE (1..MAX)) } =20 Erik =20 Fra: Spasm [mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org] P=C3=A5 vegne af Wei Chuang Sendt: 08 July 2016 09:17 Til: spasm@ietf.org Emne: [Spasm] Updated draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses =20 Hi all, This draft incorporates feedback about internationalization, unicode and = language updates. =20 Your feedback is very much welcome. =20 -Wei and Alexey =20 =20 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: > Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:35 PM Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt To: Alexey Melnikov >, Weihaw Chuang >, Alexey Melnikov > A new version of I-D, draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt has been successfully submitted by Weihaw Chuang and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses Revision: 03 Title: Internationalized Email Addresses in X.509 certificates Document date: 2016-07-07 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-0= 3.txt Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses/ Htmlized: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03 Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03= Abstract: This document defines a new name form for inclusion in the otherName field of an X.509 Subject Alternative Name extension that allows a certificate subject to be associated with an Internationalized Email Address. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org = . The IETF Secretariat =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01D1D93F.E8AC0650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

I wonder why you did not add a new component = to the GeneralName data type as shown below. Processing will be easier = and you do not have to defined a (long) IETF = OID.

 

GeneralName ::=3D CHOICE {

=C2=A0 = otherName=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [0]=C2=A0 INSTANCE OF = OTHER-NAME,

=C2=A0 = rfc822Name=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [1]=C2=A0 IA5String,

=C2=A0 = dNSName=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [2]=C2=A0 = IA5String,

=C2=A0 = x400Address=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [3]=C2=A0 ORAddress,

=C2=A0 = directoryName=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [4]=C2=A0 Name,

=C2=A0 = ediPartyName=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [5]=C2=A0 EDIPartyName,

=C2=A0 uniformResourceIdentifier=C2=A0 [6]=C2=A0 = IA5String,

=C2=A0 = iPAddress=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [7]=C2=A0 OCTET = STRING,

=C2=A0 = registeredID=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [8]=C2=A0 OBJECT IDENTIFIER,

=C2=A0 ...,

=C2=A0 smtputf8Name name =
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0[9]=C2=A0 =
UTF8String (SIZE (1..MAX))

}

 

Erik

 

Fra: Spasm = [mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org] P=C3=A5 vegne af Wei = Chuang
Sendt: 08 July 2016 09:17
Til: = spasm@ietf.org
Emne: [Spasm] Updated = draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses

 

Hi = all,

This draft = incorporates feedback about internationalization, unicode and language = updates.

 

Your feedback is very much = welcome.

 

-Wei and Alexey

 

 

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A new version of I-D, = draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt
has been successfully = submitted by Weihaw Chuang and posted to the
IETF = repository.

Name:          =  draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses
Revision:    =    03
Title:          = Internationalized Email Addresses in X.509 certificates
Document = date:  2016-07-07
Group:          = Individual Submission
Pages:          = 6
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Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-ad= dresses-03
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-melnikov-spas= m-eai-addresses-03

Abstract:
   This document = defines a new name form for inclusion in the otherName
  =  field of an X.509 Subject Alternative Name extension that allows = a
   certificate subject to be associated with an = Internationalized Email
  =  Address.




Please note that it may take a couple = of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and = diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

The IETF = Secretariat

 

------=_NextPart_000_000F_01D1D93F.E8AC0650-- From nobody Fri Jul 8 09:19:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566AF12D57B for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 09:19:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zm2msTcwqeCO for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 09:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E8DE12D0C9 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 09:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.7] (unknown [75.83.2.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7CE7509B8; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 12:19:47 -0400 (EDT) To: Erik Andersen , 'Wei Chuang' , spasm@ietf.org References: <000e01d1d92f$251fb3e0$6f5f1ba0$@x500.eu> From: Sean Leonard Message-ID: <8dda99f6-b88f-5e97-1af7-5b6d75aca273@seantek.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 09:19:08 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000e01d1d92f$251fb3e0$6f5f1ba0$@x500.eu> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------116274AE436055A4E0A8010B" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Spasm] Updated draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:19:52 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------116274AE436055A4E0A8010B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Erik, I actually advocated for exactly that, but pointed out it will require=20 ITU-T cooperation. Is ITU-T willing to cooperate? :) The other issue is that it will break software that was compiled with=20 "pre-ellipsis technology". This likely includes most flavors of Windows=20 up through and including Windows 10. It's also possible that software=20 will choke but will return a successful partial decode of GeneralName=20 productions prior to the [9] one, in which case, the proposal is doable=20 as long as [9] is the last GeneralName. (Conveniently, it is likely that = [9] will get sorted to the end in DER, which might save us.) It would be good to do a comprehensive survey; I have not actually done=20 any testing. Regards, Sean On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, Erik Andersen wrote: > > Hi, > > I wonder why you did not add a new component to the GeneralName data=20 > type as shown below. Processing will be easier and you do not have to=20 > defined a (long) IETF OID. > > GeneralName ::=3D CHOICE { > > otherName [0] INSTANCE OF OTHER-NAME, > > rfc822Name [1] IA5String, > > dNSName [2] IA5String, > > x400Address [3] ORAddress, > > directoryName [4] Name, > > ediPartyName [5] EDIPartyName, > > uniformResourceIdentifier [6] IA5String, > > iPAddress [7] OCTET STRING, > > registeredID [8] OBJECT IDENTIFIER, > > ..., > > *smtputf8Name name [9] UTF8String (SIZE (1..MAX))* > > } > > Erik > > *Fra:*Spasm [mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org] *P=E5 vegne af *Wei Chuang > *Sendt:* 08 July 2016 09:17 > *Til:* spasm@ietf.org > *Emne:* [Spasm] Updated draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses > > Hi all, > > This draft incorporates feedback about internationalization, unicode=20 > and language updates. > > Your feedback is very much welcome. > > -Wei and Alexey > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > > Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:35 PM > Subject: New Version Notification for=20 > draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt > To: Alexey Melnikov >, Weihaw Chuang >, Alexey Melnikov=20 > > > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt > has been successfully submitted by Weihaw Chuang and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses > Revision: 03 > Title: Internationalized Email Addresses in X.509 certificates= > Document date: 2016-07-07 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 6 > URL:=20 > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses= -03.txt > Status:=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses/ > Htmlized:=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03 > Diff:=20 > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-= 03 > > Abstract: > This document defines a new name form for inclusion in the otherName= > field of an X.509 Subject Alternative Name extension that allows a > certificate subject to be associated with an Internationalized Email= > Address. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org=20 > . > > The IETF Secretariat > > > > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm --------------116274AE436055A4E0A8010B Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Erik,

I actually advocated for exactly that, but pointed out it will require ITU-T cooperation. Is ITU-T willing to cooperate? :)

The other issue is that it will break software that was compiled with "pre-ellipsis technology". This likely includes most flavors of Windows up through and including Windows 10. It's also possible that software will choke but will return a successful partial decode of GeneralName productions prior to the [9] one, in which case, the proposal is doable as long as [9] is the last GeneralName. (Conveniently, it is likely that [9] will get sorted to the end in DER, which might save us.)

It would be good to do a comprehensive survey; I have not actually done any testing.

Regards,

Sean

On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, Erik Andersen wrote:

Hi,

 

I wonder why you did not add a new component to the GeneralName data type as shown below. Processing will be easier and you do not have to defined a (long) IETF OID.

 

GeneralName ::= CHOICE {

  otherName                  [0]  INSTANCE OF OTHER-NAME,

  rfc822Name                 [1]  IA5String,

  dNSName                    [2]  IA5String,

  x400Address                [3]  ORAddress,

  directoryName              [4]  Name,

  ediPartyName               [5]  EDIPartyName,

  uniformResourceIdentifier  [6]  IA5String,

  iPAddress                  [7]  OCTET STRING,

  registeredID               [8]  OBJECT IDENTIFIER,

  ...,

  smtputf8Name name          [9]  UTF8String (SIZE (1..MAX))

}

 

Erik

 

Fra: Spasm [mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org] På vegne af Wei Chuang
Sendt: 08 July 2016 09:17
Til: spasm@ietf.org
Emne: [Spasm] Updated draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses

 

Hi all,

This draft incorporates feedback about internationalization, unicode and language updates.

 

Your feedback is very much welcome.

 

-Wei and Alexey

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:35 PM
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt
To: Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>, Weihaw Chuang <weihaw@google.com>, Alexey Melnikov <Alexey.Melnikov@isode.com>



A new version of I-D, draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt
has been successfully submitted by Weihaw Chuang and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:           draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses
Revision:       03
Title:          Internationalized Email Addresses in X.509 certificates
Document date:  2016-07-07
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          6
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03

Abstract:
   This document defines a new name form for inclusion in the otherName
   field of an X.509 Subject Alternative Name extension that allows a
   certificate subject to be associated with an Internationalized Email
   Address.




Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:56:15 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D1D9C8.1CDA7320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sean, =20 Sure, ITU-T will cooperate. =20 We have a little timing problem, but that should not stop us. =20 The eight edition of X.509 is due to approval at the ITU-T SG17 meeting = in September. It has features we need for Smart Grid security now. I cannot = get any new technical changes in right now. I can issue a defect report = after publication and in this way make it part of the eight edition. This = should not stop us from developing the solution within spasm and then later = move it into X.509. =20 The issue on breaking current implementations should be resolved. =20 Kind regards. =20 Erik =20 Fra: Sean Leonard [mailto:dev+ietf@seantek.com]=20 Sendt: 08 July 2016 18:19 Til: Erik Andersen ; 'Wei Chuang' ; spasm@ietf.org Emne: Re: [Spasm] Updated draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses =20 Hi Erik, I actually advocated for exactly that, but pointed out it will require = ITU-T cooperation. Is ITU-T willing to cooperate? :) The other issue is that it will break software that was compiled with "pre-ellipsis technology". This likely includes most flavors of Windows = up through and including Windows 10. It's also possible that software will choke but will return a successful partial decode of GeneralName = productions prior to the [9] one, in which case, the proposal is doable as long as = [9] is the last GeneralName. (Conveniently, it is likely that [9] will get sorted to the end in DER, which might save us.) It would be good to do a comprehensive survey; I have not actually done = any testing. Regards, Sean On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, Erik Andersen wrote: Hi, =20 I wonder why you did not add a new component to the GeneralName data = type as shown below. Processing will be easier and you do not have to defined a (long) IETF OID. =20 GeneralName ::=3D CHOICE { otherName [0] INSTANCE OF OTHER-NAME, rfc822Name [1] IA5String, dNSName [2] IA5String, x400Address [3] ORAddress, directoryName [4] Name, ediPartyName [5] EDIPartyName, uniformResourceIdentifier [6] IA5String, iPAddress [7] OCTET STRING, registeredID [8] OBJECT IDENTIFIER, ..., smtputf8Name name [9] UTF8String (SIZE (1..MAX)) } =20 Erik =20 Fra: Spasm [mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org] P=E5 vegne af Wei Chuang Sendt: 08 July 2016 09:17 Til: spasm@ietf.org =20 Emne: [Spasm] Updated draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses =20 Hi all, This draft incorporates feedback about internationalization, unicode and language updates. =20 Your feedback is very much welcome. =20 -Wei and Alexey =20 =20 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: > Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:35 PM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt To: Alexey Melnikov >, Weihaw Chuang >, Alexey Melnikov > A new version of I-D, draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt has been successfully submitted by Weihaw Chuang and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses Revision: 03 Title: Internationalized Email Addresses in X.509 certificates Document date: 2016-07-07 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-0= 3.t xt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03= Abstract: This document defines a new name form for inclusion in the otherName field of an X.509 Subject Alternative Name extension that allows a certificate subject to be associated with an Internationalized Email Address. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org . The IETF Secretariat =20 _______________________________________________ Spasm mailing list Spasm@ietf.org =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D1D9C8.1CDA7320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Sean,

 

Sure, ITU-T will = cooperate.

 

We have a little timing problem, but that = should not stop us.

 

The eight edition of X.509 =A0is due to = approval at the ITU-T SG17 meeting in September. It has features we need = for Smart Grid security now. I cannot get any new technical changes in = right now. I can issue a defect report after publication and in this way = make it part of the eight edition. This should not stop us from = developing the solution within spasm and then later move it into = X.509.

 

The issue on breaking current = implementations should be resolved.

 

Kind regards.

 

Erik

 

Fra: Sean Leonard [mailto:dev+ietf@seantek.com]
Sendt: 08 = July 2016 18:19
Til: Erik Andersen <era@x500.eu>; 'Wei = Chuang' <weihaw@google.com>; spasm@ietf.org
Emne: Re: = [Spasm] Updated = draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses

 

Hi = Erik,

I actually advocated for exactly that, but pointed out it = will require ITU-T cooperation. Is ITU-T willing to cooperate? = :)

The other issue is that it will break software that was = compiled with "pre-ellipsis technology". This likely includes = most flavors of Windows up through and including Windows 10. It's also = possible that software will choke but will return a successful partial = decode of GeneralName productions prior to the [9] one, in which case, = the proposal is doable as long as [9] is the last GeneralName. = (Conveniently, it is likely that [9] will get sorted to the end in DER, = which might save us.)

It would be good to do a comprehensive = survey; I have not actually done any = testing.

Regards,

Sean

On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, Erik = Andersen wrote:

Hi,

 

I wonder why you did not add a new component = to the GeneralName data type as shown below. Processing will be easier = and you do not have to defined a (long) IETF = OID.

 

GeneralName ::=3D CHOICE {

  = otherName          &nbs= p;       [0]  INSTANCE OF = OTHER-NAME,

  = rfc822Name          &nb= sp;      [1]  IA5String,

  = dNSName           =          [2]  = IA5String,

  = x400Address          &n= bsp;     [3]  ORAddress,

  = directoryName          =     [4]  Name,

  = ediPartyName          &= nbsp;    [5]  EDIPartyName,

  uniformResourceIdentifier  [6]  = IA5String,

  = iPAddress          &nbs= p;       [7]  OCTET = STRING,

  = registeredID          &= nbsp;    [8]  OBJECT IDENTIFIER,

  ...,

  smtputf8Name name =
         [9]  =
UTF8String (SIZE (1..MAX))

}

 

Erik

 

Fra: Spasm [mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org]= P=E5 vegne af Wei Chuang
Sendt: 08 July 2016 = 09:17
Til: spasm@ietf.org
Emne: = [Spasm] Updated = draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses

 

Hi = all,

This draft = incorporates feedback about internationalization, unicode and language = updates.

 

Your feedback is very much = welcome.

 

-Wei and Alexey

 

 

---------- Forwarded message = ----------
From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>=
Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:35 PM
Subject: New Version = Notification for draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt
To: Alexey = Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com&g= t;, Weihaw Chuang <weihaw@google.com>, Alexey = Melnikov <Alexey.Melnikov@isode.com&g= t;



A new version of I-D, = draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-03.txt
has been successfully = submitted by Weihaw Chuang and posted to the
IETF = repository.

Name:          =  draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses
Revision:    =    03
Title:          = Internationalized Email Addresses in X.509 certificates
Document = date:  2016-07-07
Group:          = Individual Submission
Pages:          = 6
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-melnikov-spa= sm-eai-addresses-03.txt
Status:        =  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-melnikov-spasm-e= ai-addresses/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-ad= dresses-03
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-melnikov-spas= m-eai-addresses-03

Abstract:
   This document = defines a new name form for inclusion in the otherName
  =  field of an X.509 Subject Alternative Name extension that allows = a
   certificate subject to be associated with an = Internationalized Email
  =  Address.




Please note that it may take a couple = of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and = diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

The IETF = Secretariat

 




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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D1D9C8.1CDA7320-- From nobody Sat Jul 9 11:05:37 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFE212D5B5 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 11:05:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.287 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.287 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AVXYPLTON1LA for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 11:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4B8512B060 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 11:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (24.21.96.37) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 11:11:34 -0700 From: Jim Schaad To: References: <20160708222549.32135.75802.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20160708222549.32135.75802.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 11:05:10 -0700 Message-ID: <027a01d1da0c$70854560$518fd020$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQIbikvd8aZ0iNhntvTj36ZZCx9IGZ99AvVw Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [24.21.96.37] Archived-At: Subject: [Spasm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis-01.txt X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 18:05:36 -0000 A new version of the document has been published. Primarily it should = address the question of what authenticated data means based on reviews. = Sections 3.4 and 6 have been updated to deal with this. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 3:26 PM > To: Blake Ramsdell ; Jim Schaad = ; > Blake C. Ramsdell ; Sean Turner > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis-01.txt >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis-01.txt has been = successfully > submitted by Jim Schaad and posted to the IETF repository. >=20 > Name: draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis > Revision: 01 > Title: Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (S/MIME) Version > 3.5 Message Specification > Document date: 2016-07-08 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 49 > URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis- > 01.txt > Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis/ > Htmlized: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis-01 > Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-schaad-rfc5751-bis-01 >=20 > Abstract: > This document defines Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions > (S/MIME) version 3.5. S/MIME provides a consistent way to send and > receive secure MIME data. Digital signatures provide = authentication, > message integrity, and non-repudiation with proof of origin. > Encryption provides data confidentiality. Compression can be used = to > reduce data size. This document obsoletes RFC 5751. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > The IETF Secretariat From nobody Mon Jul 11 07:56:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCE512D51B for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 07:56:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.72 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.72 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SQOK9XdoqO3Y for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 07:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail04.dandomain.dk (mail04.dandomain.dk [194.150.112.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEE0312D08E for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 07:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Morten ([62.44.135.69]) by mail04.dandomain.dk (DanDomain Mailserver) with ASMTP id 4201607111656371223 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:56:37 +0200 From: "Erik Andersen" To: "SPASM" Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:56:39 +0200 Message-ID: <002c01d1db84$6dd9a080$498ce180$@x500.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01D1DB95.3162BEA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AdHbfT/bHthiLs75SaKYogCaMq/TCw== Content-Language: en-gb Archived-At: Subject: [Spasm] ASN.1 of RFC 6268 X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:56:43 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01D1DB95.3162BEA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I believe I detected a problem in the CMS-AuthEnvelopeData-2010 module of RFC 6268 The CONTENT-ENCRYPTION and the AlgorithIdentifier{} are imported from CryptographicMessageSyntax, but should be imported from AlgorithmInformation-2009. Erik ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01D1DB95.3162BEA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi

I believe I = detected a problem in the CMS-AuthEnvelopeData-2010 module of RFC = 6268

 

The CONTENT-ENCRYPTION and the AlgorithIdentifier{} = are imported from CryptographicMessageSyntax, but should be imported = from AlgorithmInformation-2009.

 

Erik

------=_NextPart_000_002D_01D1DB95.3162BEA0-- From nobody Mon Jul 11 10:20:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF8812D0CC; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:20:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cs.tcd.ie Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I1dvMwNywOjb; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A89A012D0C4; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5853BE3F; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:20:45 +0100 (IST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4x-3Gl5M6TGz; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:20:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from [10.154.240.60] (unknown [217.9.105.211]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E57A8BE3E; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:20:42 +0100 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1468257643; bh=Zwjz9j4CLVr7o40z5cJIXNQ9gT8RZriPzpzSPqTXwRw=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=HAIAFEKPbcXkiFE95YM79EOz4M7Adhrn6HFmUMny2Qg0vsjYCIEtnIWiT2BOxVFsw +T7xqMXwdHGv+FX4G0/WXlGCnM9FcLMZwiH/Vz9GMfTyptBfUjqujpa1LjlptwKo15 4KGCkJhbJn3vB07alfalUq5bkCqwK98/ltLEpOAo= To: "spasm@ietf.org" , "curdle@ietf.org" References: <577C1ABB.4010809@cs.tcd.ie> From: Stephen Farrell Openpgp: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= Message-ID: <5783D56A.8070803@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:20:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <577C1ABB.4010809@cs.tcd.ie> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms090104060707050206000107" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Spasm] move lamps meeting slot to Friday? X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:20:50 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090104060707050206000107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear secretariat (bcc'd): So I only got positive feedback on this. Please do make the move to Friday for lamps and cancel curdle. I guess you'll send some announcement. Cheers, S. PS: For those who wonder, the secretariat are bcc'd as mailing them causes creation of a new ticket, and so does replying to this mail, so better to not have such replies as they just cause useless tickets that have to be closed. On 05/07/16 21:38, Stephen Farrell wrote: >=20 > Hiya, >=20 > We've gotten a request to move the lamps meeting slot > back to Friday at 12:20 instead of curdle, which would > then remain cancelled. (There is one overlapping issue > that will be discussed in any case.) >=20 > That would put lamps against: rtcweb, lwig, ntp, tictoc, > bfd and aqm. >=20 > The reason to ask for the move was that we have a > contributor for whom the quic conflict is a problem. >=20 > As of now, lamps is on Wednesday 10:00 against avtcore, > mmusic, dhc, bmwg, netconf, rtgwg, ace, trans and > quic. >=20 > If this change would be good for you or a problem for > you please let me know off or on list, ideally before > Monday, July 11. >=20 > Thanks, > S. >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Curdle mailing list > Curdle@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/curdle >=20 --------------ms090104060707050206000107 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FC_01D1DB65.6ABA9E50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQJjTKqRmYFBDZhwrCiD/UqskdNXcZ7wpgLQ Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [24.21.96.37] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Spasm] ASN.1 of RFC 6268 X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." 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Jim From: Spasm [mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Erik Andersen Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 7:57 AM To: SPASM Subject: [Spasm] ASN.1 of RFC 6268 Hi I believe I detected a problem in the CMS-AuthEnvelopeData-2010 module of RFC 6268 The CONTENT-ENCRYPTION and the AlgorithIdentifier{} are imported from CryptographicMessageSyntax, but should be imported from AlgorithmInformation-2009. Erik ------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01D1DB65.6ABA9E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is morally correct, but not technically = correct.

 

From the X.680 8/11 pdf file

 

Each = "Symbol" in "SymbolsFromModule" shall either be = defined in the module body, or be present in

the = "Imports" clause, of the module denoted by the = "GlobalModuleReference" in

"SymbolsFromModule".

 

Thus the = fact that they are imported into the CMS-AuthEnvelopedData-2010 module = is sufficient to allow for another module to import from that = module.  It can be both simpler – not as many different = modules to need to import from at the top of a file – and more = complex – it can be harder to find out which module to be = using.  I have not reviewed the 2015 changes, but I doubt that this = is different.

 

Jim

 

 

From: Spasm = [mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Erik = Andersen
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 7:57 AM
To: = SPASM <spasm@ietf.org>
Subject: [Spasm] ASN.1 of RFC = 6268

 

Hi

I believe I detected a problem in the = CMS-AuthEnvelopeData-2010 module of RFC 6268

 

The CONTENT-ENCRYPTION and the = AlgorithIdentifier{} are imported from CryptographicMessageSyntax, but = should be imported from = AlgorithmInformation-2009.

 

Erik

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Hi all,

There is a new draft that adds a example and diagram plus some wording changes.

-Wei

-----

A new version of I-D, draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-04.txt
has been successfully submitted by Weihaw Chuang and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:           draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses
Revision:       04
Title:          Internationalized Email Addresses in X.509 certificates
Document date:  2016-07-19
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          7
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-04.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-04
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses-04

Abstract:
   This document defines a new name form for inclusion in the otherName
   field of an X.509 Subject Alternative Name extension that allows a
   certificate subject to be associated with an Internationalized Email
   Address.




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([2001:67c:370:176:88f6:1233:79b:47a0]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n131sm8962824wmd.3.2016.07.22.04.03.28 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 04:03:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Yoav Nir Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6E0E0DAE-E7CF-4E53-AF1F-8504ECA59D81" Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:03:27 +0200 Message-Id: <5B4007EA-85A7-4273-A701-8C153BE72A33@gmail.com> To: Russ Housley Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Cc: spasm@ietf.org Subject: [Spasm] Raw minutes from LAMPS meeting X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:03:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_6E0E0DAE-E7CF-4E53-AF1F-8504ECA59D81 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii LAMPS Meeting - IETF 96 Charlottenburg I room Friday, 12:20 - 13:20 Agenda: LAMPS WG Agenda 0) Minute Taker, Jabber Scribe, Bluesheets Began 12:21. Rsalz is the jabber scribe. Yoav taking minutes. Seen the = Note Well; blue sheets going around. 1) Agenda Bash (12:24) - looking at the agenda. No bash 2) Status and open issues for draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis (Jim) Extension to use AEAD algorithms in RFC 5751 (Secure/Multipurpose = Internet Mail Extensions (S/MIME) Version 3.2 Message Specification) Added AES-GCM as MUST; pulled in errata Which version of S/Mime? 3.5 for now. Are example real? Change title or make them real examples. Erratum from = Peter Gutmann. ASN.1 bytes don't parse. ASN.1 version of the module? Jim thinks we should leave things alone. Sean Leonard: we are updating the table constraints/information object = classes. Therefore, the new ASN.1 module (2002+) should be updated (at = some point). However I think it's okay for this S/MIMEbis document to = list the 88 syntax normatively. Additional security considerations Algorithm requirements Update section 2.7 advice on algorithm selection Don't use level of encryption that is too low. Header protection? Probably not here. Look at the new email address attribute in certificates Jim will take these issues one by one to the list. Any other issues?=20 Stephen Farrell: We should only do changes that implementations are = likely to follow; not just stuff we like. Jim agrees (and has ideas that = are not realistic) Sean Leonard: eai topic: I think we should update S/MIME to discuss eai = stuff. ALSO, should update S/MIME to talk about how the inner MIME = content (which is binary clean) has [ought to have] UTF-8 headers, = consistent with EAI. Question is, should there be smimeCapability OID = for eai (UTF-8 headers)? think about it... Jim: 822 headers need UTF-8 headers Alexey: yes, but message-global not rfc822, but you can still construct Russ: so you're saying that by changing message-rfc822 to message-global = we'll get it for free Alexey: Uhhm, maybe 3) Status and open issues for draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses = (Alexey and Wei) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses = (12:37) Wei presenting OtherName vs GeneralName smtputf8Name name constraint intentionally excludes similar types Updates will take time: OpenSSL in a year. Have not talked yet with CAs. Tero: security issues with having too many forms?=20 Russ: all forms bound to key.=20 Tero: our identifier is email address (IPsec for example). The form is = not specified.=20 Russ: that goes in the certs document that needs updating Jim: Need to talk to people creating certificates Sean Leonard: just an observation. It is strange that X.509 (ITU-T = committee) provides *two* extension points for extending GeneralName. = Historically, otherName (with an open type / table constraint based on = OID) is the older one, therefore more likely to be widely deployed. = otherName is also more compatible with ASN.1-88 syntax, compared to = "ellipsis". 4) Open issues for draft-ietf-curdle-pkix (Simon or Jim) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-curdle-pkix = (12:47) Jim presenting David Benjamin's proposal: 3 OIDs per curve: ECDH (25519 & 448); EdDSA = (no PH); EdDSAph Sean Turner: As an author of RFC5480, I'm a-okay with DavidBen's = proposal. I never really liked the SECG stuff that got adopted in = PKIX/SMIME ... Sean Leonard: so you're saying OneAsymmetricKey.privateKey (OCTET = STRING) contains ECPrivateKey ...that's the proposal, right? Jim: No! Sean Turner: So..... that came from OpenSSL I was just reflecting what = appeared to be reality *** A hum to recommend David Benjamin's proposal was unanimously yes. 5) WG document adoption Do we want to adopt Jim's draft on the message spec: = draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis *** Unanimously yes (also on Jabber) Do we want to adopy Wei's draft on internationalized email addresses: = draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses *** Unanimously yes 6) Wrap Up (13:02) wrapped up --Apple-Mail=_6E0E0DAE-E7CF-4E53-AF1F-8504ECA59D81 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
LAMPS Meeting - IETF 96
Charlottenburg I room
Friday, 12:20 - 13:20

Agenda:
LAMPS WG Agenda

0)  Minute Taker, Jabber Scribe, = Bluesheets

Began 12:21. Rsalz is the jabber scribe. Yoav taking = minutes. Seen the Note Well; blue sheets going around.

1)  Agenda Bash

(12:24) - looking at the agenda. No = bash

2)  Status and open issues for draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis = (Jim)

Extension to use AEAD algorithms in RFC 5751 = (Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (S/MIME) = Version 3.2 Message Specification)
  • Added AES-GCM as MUST; pulled in = errata
  • Which version of S/Mime? 3.5 for = now.
  • Are example real?  Change title or make them = real examples. Erratum from Peter Gutmann. ASN.1 bytes don't = parse.
  • ASN.1 version of the module?  Jim thinks we = should leave things alone.
  • Sean Leonard: we are updating the table = constraints/information object classes. Therefore, the new ASN.1 module = (2002+) should be updated (at some point). However I think it's okay for = this S/MIMEbis document to list the 88 syntax = normatively.
  • Additional security = considerations
  • Algorithm requirements
  • Update section 2.7 advice on algorithm = selection
  • Don't use level of encryption that is too = low.
  • Header protection?  Probably not = here.
  • Look at the new email address attribute in = certificates

Jim will take these issues one by one to the = list.

Any other issues? 
  • Stephen Farrell: We should only do changes that = implementations are likely to follow; not just stuff we like. Jim agrees = (and has ideas that are not realistic)
  • Sean Leonard: eai topic: I think we should update = S/MIME to discuss eai stuff. ALSO, should update S/MIME to talk about = how the inner MIME content (which is binary clean) has [ought to have] = UTF-8 headers, consistent with EAI. Question is, should there be = smimeCapability OID for eai (UTF-8 headers)? think about = it...
  • Jim: 822 headers need UTF-8 = headers
  • Alexey: yes, but message-global not rfc822, but you = can still construct
  • Russ: so you're saying that by changing = message-rfc822 to message-global we'll get it for = free
  • Alexey: Uhhm, maybe

3)  Status and open issues for = draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses (Alexey and Wei)


https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-curdle-pkix
(12:47) Jim presenting
David Benjamin's proposal: 3 OIDs per = curve: ECDH (25519 & 448); EdDSA (no PH); = EdDSAph
  • Sean Turner: As an author of RFC5480, I'm a-okay = with DavidBen's proposal.  I never really liked the SECG stuff that = got adopted in PKIX/SMIME ...
  • Sean Leonard: so you're saying = OneAsymmetricKey.privateKey (OCTET STRING) contains ECPrivateKey = ...that's the proposal, right?  Jim: No!
  • Sean Turner: So..... that came from OpenSSL I was = just reflecting what appeared to be reality

  • ***= A hum to recommend David Benjamin's proposal was unanimously = yes.

5)  WG document adoption

Do we want to adopt Jim's draft on the message spec: = draft-schaad-rfc5751-bis
  • ***= Unanimously yes (also on Jabber)

Do we want to adopy Wei's draft on internationalized = email addresses: draft-melnikov-spasm-eai-addresses
  • ***= Unanimously yes

6)  Wrap Up

(13:02) wrapped up

= --Apple-Mail=_6E0E0DAE-E7CF-4E53-AF1F-8504ECA59D81-- From nobody Fri Jul 22 07:20:59 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietf.org Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFFD12DA63; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 07:20:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.29.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160722142053.12319.4305.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 07:20:53 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: spasm@ietf.org Subject: [Spasm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5751-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:20:54 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Limited Additional Mechanisms for PKIX and SMIME of the IETF. Title : Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (S/MIME) Version 3.5 Message Specification Authors : Jim Schaad Blake Ramsdell Sean Turner Filename : draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5751-bis-00.txt Pages : 50 Date : 2016-07-22 Abstract: This document defines Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (S/MIME) version 3.5. S/MIME provides a consistent way to send and receive secure MIME data. Digital signatures provide authentication, message integrity, and non-repudiation with proof of origin. Encryption provides data confidentiality. Compression can be used to reduce data size. This document obsoletes RFC 5751. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5751-bis/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5751-bis-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Jul 22 08:20:15 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A4712DB79 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:20:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.188 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.188 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YQDmstf1GoAp for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B75712D51A for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (89.27.137.162) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:26:25 -0700 From: Jim Schaad To: 'SPASM' References: <20160722134707.12260.17545.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20160722134707.12260.17545.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:20:07 +0200 Message-ID: <00a701d1e42c$89112070$9b336150$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQGIGxp6IhX6zst6YSg2sNa7/KMFSaC4Ippw Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [89.27.137.162] Archived-At: Subject: [Spasm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:20:14 -0000 Since Russ is going to be a stickler for details, here is a candidate = draft for updating RFC 5750. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:47 PM > To: Blake Ramsdell ; Sean Turner ; > Blake C. Ramsdell ; Jim Schaad = > Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00.txt >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Jim Schaad and posted to the IETF > repository. >=20 > Name: draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis > Revision: 00 > Title: Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (S/ MIME) > Version 3.2 Certificate Handling > Document date: 2016-07-22 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 21 > URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750- > bis-00.txt > Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis/ > Htmlized: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00 >=20 >=20 > Abstract: > This document specifies conventions for X.509 certificate usage by > Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (S/MIME) v3.2 agents. > S/MIME provides a method to send and receive secure MIME messages, > and certificates are an integral part of S/MIME agent processing. > S/MIME agents validate certificates as described in RFC 5280, the > Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Certificate and CRL = Profile. > S/MIME agents must meet the certificate processing requirements in > this document as well as those in RFC 5280. This document = obsoletes > RFC 3850. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > The IETF Secretariat From nobody Sun Jul 24 14:27:48 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietf.org Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FACB12D1B8; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 14:27:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.29.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160724212744.19225.97965.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 14:27:44 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: spasm@ietf.org Subject: [Spasm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lamps-eai-addresses-00.txt X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 21:27:44 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Limited Additional Mechanisms for PKIX and SMIME of the IETF. Title : Internationalized Email Addresses in X.509 certificates Authors : Alexey Melnikov Weihaw Chuang Filename : draft-ietf-lamps-eai-addresses-00.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2016-07-24 Abstract: This document defines a new name form for inclusion in the otherName field of an X.509 Subject Alternative Name extension that allows a certificate subject to be associated with an Internationalized Email Address. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-eai-addresses/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lamps-eai-addresses-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:38:43 -0000 I believe the WG should adopt this document: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-= bis-00.txt=20 From nobody Mon Jul 25 10:37:34 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD6612D979 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:37:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wSO9Hbgrwzlj for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9B6A12D969 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6EF300580 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:37:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id IlMUnX7ZINlm for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-108-51-128-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.51.128.219]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D8F930029F; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <143e625f340b49bf98a562bbd98ab0be@usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:36:05 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20160722134707.12260.17545.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <00a701d1e42c$89112070$9b336150$@augustcellars.com> <143e625f340b49bf98a562bbd98ab0be@usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com> To: "Salz, Rich" , Jim Schaad X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Cc: SPASM Subject: Re: [Spasm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 17:37:32 -0000 I think we should drop all of the SHOULD- algorithms and DSA from = section 4.3, and that we should add ECDSA with P256 and SHA-256 as a = SHOULD+. With these changes, I think the document is ready for adoption by the = LAMPS WG. What do others think? Russ On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Salz, Rich wrote: > I believe the WG should adopt this document: > = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00.txt= =20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm From nobody Mon Jul 25 11:28:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABEC12D1D1 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 11:28:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.188 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.188 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DDXCNH54s53O for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 11:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3583112D51F for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 11:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (192.168.1.152) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.1.201) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 11:34:38 -0700 From: Jim Schaad To: 'Russ Housley' , "'Salz, Rich'" References: <20160722134707.12260.17545.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <00a701d1e42c$89112070$9b336150$@augustcellars.com> <143e625f340b49bf98a562bbd98ab0be@usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 11:28:20 -0700 Message-ID: <03c601d1e6a2$54cd5bd0$fe681370$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQGIGxp6IhX6zst6YSg2sNa7/KMFSQI5CbhmATG6wYsCeoD+W6CN5CkA Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [192.168.1.152] Archived-At: Cc: 'SPASM' Subject: Re: [Spasm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 18:28:56 -0000 I think that we should wait on the algorithm argument and have a unified discussion for both documents at the same time. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Spasm [mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Russ Housley > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:36 AM > To: Salz, Rich ; Jim Schaad > Cc: SPASM > Subject: Re: [Spasm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-lamps- > rfc5750-bis-00.txt > > I think we should drop all of the SHOULD- algorithms and DSA from section 4.3, > and that we should add ECDSA with P256 and SHA-256 as a SHOULD+. > > With these changes, I think the document is ready for adoption by the LAMPS > WG. What do others think? > > Russ > > > On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Salz, Rich wrote: > > > I believe the WG should adopt this document: > > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis- > 00.txt > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Spasm mailing list > > Spasm@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm > > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm From nobody Tue Jul 26 14:03:07 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2502212D972 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:03:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.987 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.987 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7DxVcFMzWuoq for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB3E012D964 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io0-x232.google.com with SMTP id m101so42912858ioi.2 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:03:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=X/jVbhzglJ+L3NJqYQiDVazLlOIM6/J2xrzydj0+tBA=; b=X/2hq5I/UNSYy4MaPybJCgccDLOuvuAlh0y9IIuwQ22NsBkOcspLD+3O3mJwn2DOLp Hb8lTspA9Xp33i01MDMTHS/8F457VefNa3JV+hu36t+C1He6hvsItwRyhHiRf5KpuREo Q8T1L03NKoRjGS9bzFEtIYs15FWE+xTuIInF00MA3zEySlFkvdKB9IzW8CmVlp+d11rF yz6RChd1TwKmQK8R+i1kZEuMhgC96pkOASVurNABBHOE2DBQxocoagQKLPA5mw8bOp86 dHgI48XC6AkOBkgnmuGbvrTNnYw2lILEhAJYIXs86ZgArbk4LvqpFoGQfDBr1Cr5nXMh pPbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=X/jVbhzglJ+L3NJqYQiDVazLlOIM6/J2xrzydj0+tBA=; b=A9rFiFKukitZGTNO3Lsl75YaIaxYXm+qoQ3LBEr4Jaf7uwo30CWuFCYYeAwRVJ1RWq bCcW3uIxnC0+4bKWYyPERaiCbbo6yfZqVPcaA2S4Dj3c/PHjEb6OOOIZ5pqI6liG3phx ORp+U9k/+m9pmucD+UK6BQSz0wqgup4Sw9mQbpadqk2ArzsnpAigd/B0ogBSBZ6MTATd 2L932sQJ1934V/Jl9YPvVMbHNS8n6WWtDsIXd2z0SB+AFGKLKTU+mSiKQruTqZwgjrlc CCIKKnj7LSDoKFvzf+mKY5i3vxscyEGXKGpCHEdFcFkjB8h/fOC3oZ8J9s8W1bJBaVYY 51KA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvxsnuMIk1ZmlyJGXya2LyP4eFQ9ZKnSy4dywIdFtW0nH7vwKdpjJDk9EdN9abAF2fIjix8SVWzFeMaRWBR X-Received: by 10.157.11.118 with SMTP id p51mr14610056otd.21.1469566982040; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:03:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.44.38 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:03:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20160722134707.12260.17545.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <00a701d1e42c$89112070$9b336150$@augustcellars.com> <143e625f340b49bf98a562bbd98ab0be@usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com> From: Wei Chuang Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:03:01 -0700 Message-ID: To: Russ Housley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d1c40f06b18053890391e Archived-At: Cc: SPASM , "Salz, Rich" , Jim Schaad Subject: Re: [Spasm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." 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What do others think? > +1 LAMPS should adopt this document and agree with the proposed algorithm changes. -Wei > > Russ > > > On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Salz, Rich wrote: > > > I believe the WG should adopt this document: > > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schaad-lamps- > rfc5750-bis-00.txt > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Spasm mailing list > > Spasm@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm > > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm > --001a113d1c40f06b18053890391e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
I think we should drop all of the SHOULD- algorithms and DSA  from section 4.3, and that we should add ECDSA with P256 and SHA-256 as a SHOULD+.

With these changes, I think the document is ready for adoption by the LAMPS WG.  What do others think?


+1 LAMPS should adopt this document and agree with the proposed algorithm changes.

-Wei
 

Russ


On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:

> I believe the WG should adopt this document:
>           https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00.txt
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Spasm mailing list
> Spasm@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm

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[204.42.252.17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q1sm14328136itb.2.2016.07.27.12.58.58 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 27 Jul 2016 12:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Sean Turner In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:58:52 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20160722134707.12260.17545.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <00a701d1e42c$89112070$9b336150$@augustcellars.com> <143e625f340b49bf98a562bbd98ab0be@usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com> To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Cc: SPASM Subject: Re: [Spasm] New Version Notification for draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:59:03 -0000 I=E2=80=99m for adopting the draft (but I=E2=80=99m a little biased). I could go either way on whether the changes should be made before or = after the draft is adopted. I=E2=80=99m okay with adopting the draft as = is and looking at the changes in conjunction with the msg draft. spt > On Jul 25, 2016, at 13:36, Russ Housley wrote: >=20 > I think we should drop all of the SHOULD- algorithms and DSA from = section 4.3, and that we should add ECDSA with P256 and SHA-256 as a = SHOULD+. >=20 > With these changes, I think the document is ready for adoption by the = LAMPS WG. What do others think? >=20 > Russ >=20 >=20 > On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Salz, Rich wrote: >=20 >> I believe the WG should adopt this document: >> = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schaad-lamps-rfc5750-bis-00.txt= =20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Spasm mailing list >> Spasm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm From nobody Sun Jul 31 22:05:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7829512D1A7 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 22:05:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.188 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.188 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kdWgKhrlCsj8 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 22:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FA6612D0CA for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 22:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (24.21.96.37) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 22:11:16 -0700 From: Jim Schaad To: 'SPASM' Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 22:05:02 -0700 Message-ID: <011101d1ebb2$442449f0$cc6cddd0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdHrrpzyX3DwxgkpTuS8xt5E6Mmi6A== Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [24.21.96.37] Archived-At: Subject: [Spasm] Change of Algorithms: Content Encryption Algorithms X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2016 05:05:28 -0000 I am not back onto a normal daylight schedule and have gotten through a couple of other documents so I am ready to start dealing with issues in the S/MIME documents. So this is the first of a series of open issue messages that I will start dribbling out as things seem to come to a conclusion. This message looks at Content Encryption Algorithms. Please restrict your discussions to this set of algorithms, I will be sending out messages on other algorithm times over time. Current Document for S/MIME 3.1 MUST: AES-128 CBC SHOULD+: AES-192 CBC and AES-256 CBC SHOULD-: DES EDE3 CBC (tripleDES) Historic: RC2/40 Proposed for S/MIME 3.5 MUST: AES-192 CBC, AES-256 CBC, AES-256 GCM SHOULD+: ChaCha20/Poly1305 (256-bit) SHOULD-: AES-128 CBC Historic: RC2/40, DES EDE3 CBC (tripleDES) Questions: 1. The jump from MUST to SHOULD- may be too aggressive for AES-128 CBC, we should potentially state this as MUST- but I think being aggressive makes more sense as we want to go to all AEAD algorithms in next version. 2. No recommendation for: AES-128 GCM or AES-192 GCM, should there be? How do people feel about 128 and 192 bit algorithms? 3. Do we want to downgrade all of the CBC algorithms in favor of GCM algorithms? Jim From nobody Sun Jul 31 23:06:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spasm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C2D12D4FB for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 23:06:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.188 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.188 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M_ziWkhtvA1U for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 23:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05E6512D1DA for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 23:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (24.21.96.37) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 23:12:16 -0700 From: Jim Schaad To: 'SPASM' Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 23:06:02 -0700 Message-ID: <011a01d1ebba$c98eabf0$5cac03d0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdHrsuZKsk1AUmbcSoapLw4sKWID2g== Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [24.21.96.37] Archived-At: Subject: [Spasm] Change of Algorithms: Signature Algorithms X-BeenThere: spasm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a venue for discussion of doing Some Pkix And SMime \(spasm\) work." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2016 06:06:30 -0000 This message looks at Signature Algorithms. Please restrict your discussions to this set of algorithms, I will be sending out messages on other algorithms over time. Current Document for S/MIME 3.1 MUST: RSA w/ SHA-256 SHOULD+: DSA w/ SHA-256, RSASSA-PSS w/ SHA-256 SHOULD-: RSA w/ SHA-1, DSA w/SHA-1, RSA w/ MD5 Historic: Key Sizes: RSA and DSA - sign SHOULD NOT Key size <= 1023 SHOULD 1024 <= key size <= 2048 MAY 2048 < key size RSA and DSA - Verify MAY key size <= 1023 MUST 1024 <= key size <= 2048 MAY 2048 < key size RSA - Certificate Verify MAY key size <= 1023 MUST 1024 <= key size <= 4096 MAY 4096 < key size DSA - Certificate Verify MAY key size <= 1023 MUST 1024 <= key size <= 3072 Proposed for S/MIME 3.5 MUST: RSA-PSS w/ SHA-256, ECDSA P-256 w/ SHA-256, EdDSA25519 MUST-: RSA w/ SHA-256 SHOULD+: SHOULD: RSA-PSS w/ SHA-512, ECDSA P-521 w/ SHA-256, EdDSA448 SHOULD-: DSA w/ SHA-256 Historic: RSA w/ SHA-1, DSA w/ SHA-1, RSA w/ MD5 Key Sizes: RSA and DSA - sign SHOULD NOT Key size <= 2048 SHOULD 2048 <= key size <= 4096 MAY 4096 < key size RSA and DSA - Verify MAY key size <= 2048 MUST 2048 <= key size <= 4096 MAY 4096 < key size RSA - Certificate Verify MAY key size <= 2048 MUST 2048 <= key size <= 4096 MAY 4096 < key size DSA - Certificate Verify MAY key size <= 1023 MUST 1024 <= key size <= 3072 Questions: 1. Should DSA be dropped to historic for messages and just left as SHOULD- for certificates, I don't know how many DSA certificates actually exist. 2. I have changed to lower limits on RSA but not DSA for certificate verification - should it be changed as well? Again I don't know how many DSA certificates exist. 3. I don't think that any statements for ECDSA on key size need to be made separately from the algorithm support list. Does any body disagree? Jim