From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 1 10:00:30 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA21103 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iaRv-0004ey-MT for speechsc-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:00:04 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h71E03cR017913 for speechsc-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:00:03 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iaRv-0004eq-Fx for speechsc-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:00:03 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA21016 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iaRt-0002at-00 for speechsc-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:00:01 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iaRs-0002aq-00 for speechsc-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:00:00 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iaRt-0004eE-4u; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:00:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iaRn-0004dk-6g for speechsc@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:59:55 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA21013 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iaRc-0002aj-00 for speechsc@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:59:44 -0400 Received: from [217.158.120.227] (helo=rnidmail.rnid.org.uk) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iaRa-0002ab-00 for speechsc@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:59:42 -0400 Received: from rnid.org.uk (unverified) by rnidmail.rnid.org.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:56:50 +0100 Received: from RNIDMAIL-Message_Server by rnid.org.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 14:55:29 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 14:53:43 +0100 From: "Guido Gybels" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Speechsc] Re: Minutes of SPEECHSC WG Meeting at Vienna Sender: speechsc-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: speechsc-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: speechsc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Speech Services Control Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Sorry for the delay in replying to this, but I am swamped lately! <> I've looked at -04 again and can now confirm that it has still got the unch= anged wording. So, Iin accordance with my previous messages on this issue, = I propose we change that section to the following: "3.9 Users with disabilities The SPEECHSC framework must have sufficient capabilities to address the cri= tical needs of people with disabilities. In particular, the set of requirem= ents set forth in RFC3351 [4] MUST be taken into account by the framework. = It is also important that implementers of SPEECHSC clients and servers be c= ognizant that some interaction modalities of SPEECHSC may be inconvenient, = or simply inappropriate for disabled users. Hearing-impaired individuals ma= y find TTS of limited utility. Speech-impaired users may be unable to make = use of ASR or SI/SV capabilities. Therefore, systems employing SPEECHSC MUS= T provide alternative interaction modes or avoid the use of speech processi= ng entirely." Best regards, Guido Guido Gybels Director of New Technologies RNID, 19-23 Featherstone Street London EC1Y 8SL, UK Tel +44(0)20-7294 3713 Fax +44(0)20-7296 8069 ************************************************************************ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent RNID policy. If you are not the intended recipient you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the RNID Helpdesk by telephone on: +44 (0) 207 296 8282. The Royal National Institute for Deaf People =20 Registered Office 19-23 Featherstone Street=20 London EC1Y 8SL No. 454169 (England) Registered Charity No. 207720 ************************************************************************ _______________________________________________ Speechsc mailing list Speechsc@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speechsc From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 1 10:44:30 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA25360 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ib8W-0006WI-Tg for speechsc-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:44:04 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h71Ei4FQ025058 for speechsc-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:44:04 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ib8W-0006W5-Qp for speechsc-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:44:04 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA25357 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ib8U-00035u-00 for speechsc-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:44:02 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ib8T-00035r-00 for speechsc-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:44:01 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ib8T-0006VF-4w; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:44:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ib8H-0006Up-5f for speechsc@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:43:49 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA25321 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:43:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ib8D-00035J-00 for speechsc@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:43:45 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ib8C-00035C-00 for speechsc@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:43:44 -0400 Received: from [10.32.254.186] (stealth-10-32-254-186.cisco.com [10.32.254.186]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h71Eh7pp015577; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:42:58 -0400 From: "David R. Oran" To: Guido Gybels , speechsc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Speechsc] Re: Minutes of SPEECHSC WG Meeting at Vienna Message-ID: <27759562.1059734578@[10.32.254.186]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: speechsc-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: speechsc-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: speechsc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Speech Services Control Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks. Will do when I submit the final version. (still waiting on one issue with Steve Bellovin to clear up). Dave. --On Friday, August 01, 2003 2:53 PM +0100 Guido Gybels wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry for the delay in replying to this, but I am swamped lately! > > < section 3.9. Dave indicated that he'd thought that those changes were > already incorporated in the -04 draft; Guido thought his comments were > for -04. Guido will verify that his comments are still appropriate for > the -04 draft.>> > > I've looked at -04 again and can now confirm that it has still got the > unchanged wording. So, Iin accordance with my previous messages on this > issue, I propose we change that section to the following: > > "3.9 Users with disabilities > > The SPEECHSC framework must have sufficient capabilities to address the > critical needs of people with disabilities. In particular, the set of > requirements set forth in RFC3351 [4] MUST be taken into account by the > framework. It is also important that implementers of SPEECHSC clients and > servers be cognizant that some interaction modalities of SPEECHSC may be > inconvenient, or simply inappropriate for disabled users. > Hearing-impaired individuals may find TTS of limited utility. > Speech-impaired users may be unable to make use of ASR or SI/SV > capabilities. Therefore, systems employing SPEECHSC MUST provide > alternative interaction modes or avoid the use of speech processing > entirely." > > Best regards, > > Guido > > > > Guido Gybels > Director of New Technologies > > RNID, 19-23 Featherstone Street > London EC1Y 8SL, UK > Tel +44(0)20-7294 3713 > Fax +44(0)20-7296 8069 > > > > > ************************************************************************ > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential > and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to > whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions expressed > are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent > RNID policy. > > If you are not the intended recipient you are advised that any > use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this > email is strictly prohibited. > > If you have received this email in error please notify the RNID > Helpdesk by telephone on: +44 (0) 207 296 8282. > > The Royal National Institute for Deaf People > Registered Office 19-23 Featherstone Street > London EC1Y 8SL No. 454169 (England) > Registered Charity No. 207720 > ************************************************************************ > > > _______________________________________________ > Speechsc mailing list > Speechsc@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speechsc ------------------------ David R. Oran Cisco Systems 7 Ladyslipper Lane Acton, MA 01720 Office: +1 978 264 2048 VoIP: +1 408 571 4576 Email: oran@cisco.com _______________________________________________ Speechsc mailing list Speechsc@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speechsc From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 14 11:05:31 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA14207 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:05:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nJf0-0006oU-RO for speechsc-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:05:07 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7EF56me026185 for speechsc-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:05:06 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nJf0-0006oG-MB for speechsc-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:05:06 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA14170 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nJey-0003Cz-00 for speechsc-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:05:04 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nJex-0003Cv-00 for speechsc-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:05:03 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nJev-0006mH-0Z; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:05:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nJeL-0006lp-CE for speechsc@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:04:25 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA14155 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:04:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nJeI-0003Cb-00 for speechsc@ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:04:22 -0400 Received: from goalie.snowshore.com ([216.57.133.4] helo=webshield.office.snowshore.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nJeI-0003CX-00 for speechsc@ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:04:22 -0400 Received: from zoe.office.snowshore.com(192.168.1.172) by webshield.office.snowshore.com via csmap id 31173; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:01:22 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:03:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4A3384433CE2AB46A63468CB207E209D097D05@zoe.office.snowshore.com> Thread-Topic: MRCPv2 Thread-Index: AcNidURYNC3VmtmCRfaxtdJ9104ggg== From: "Eric Burger" To: "IETF SPEECHSC (E-mail)" Cc: "Allison Mankin (E-mail)" , "Jon Peterson (E-mail)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Speechsc] MRCPv2 Sender: speechsc-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: speechsc-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: speechsc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Speech Services Control Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having heard calls for consensus and no objection, public or private, on = calling the new protocol "MRCPv2", we will call the new protocol = "MRCPv2". PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, if you have any objection, contact the chairs = immediately. Please do NOT post "I like MRCPv2" messages to the list. We've had = enough of those :-) _______________________________________________ Speechsc mailing list Speechsc@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speechsc From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 25 09:11:32 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA15131 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19rH7j-0006bi-Su for speechsc-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:11:07 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7PDB7hH025394 for speechsc-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:11:07 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19rH7j-0006bV-Pn for speechsc-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:11:07 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA15061 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19rH7i-0000iI-00 for speechsc-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:11:06 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19rH7h-0000iE-00 for speechsc-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:11:05 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19rH7f-0006a3-1D; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:11:03 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19rH6k-0006ZG-Pu for speechsc@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:10:06 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA14995 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:10:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19rH6j-0000hV-00 for speechsc@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:10:05 -0400 Received: from goalie.snowshore.com ([216.57.133.4] helo=webshield.office.snowshore.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19rH6i-0000gv-00 for speechsc@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:10:04 -0400 Received: from zoe.office.snowshore.com(192.168.1.172) by webshield.office.snowshore.com via csmap id 11472; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:06:23 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:09:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4A3384433CE2AB46A63468CB207E209D59E646@zoe.office.snowshore.com> Thread-Topic: EMMA and Speechsc Thread-Index: AcNg3XUsqNmtk4+SR7K6CdGv83E9uAKEDf+A From: "Eric Burger" To: "IETF SPEECHSC (E-mail)" Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Speechsc] FW: EMMA and Speechsc Sender: speechsc-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: speechsc-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: speechsc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Speech Services Control Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Debbie is the Chair of the W3C MMI Work Group. She is soliciting = feedback on EMMA, which is the leading candidate as an interchange = format for ASR results for MRCPv2. -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Dahl [mailto:dahl@conversational-technologies.com] Sent: Tue, August 12, 2003 10:24 AM To: Eric Burger Subject: EMMA and Speechsc Hi Eric, As you may be aware, the Multimodal Interaction Working=20 Group has just published a Working Draft of EMMA,=20 (Extensible MultiModal Annotation) the follow-on to NLSML,=20 for representing user input. We're looking for feedback from other interested parties and we'd like specifically to get some=20 feedback from the Speechsc group. Either feedback from the group=20 as a whole or feedback from individual participants would be useful.=20 What do you think would be a good way to go about this? Best regards, Debbie=20 Brief description of EMMA: EMMA is designed as a data exchange format for use in representing application specific interpretations of user input together with annotations such as confidence scores, time stamps and input medium etc. Speech and handwriting recognizers, natural language engines, media interpreters, and multimodal integration components generate EMMA markup.=20 EMMA spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-emma-20030811/ Multimodal Interaction home page: http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/mmi/ More information about the role EMMA plays in the W3C Multimodal Interaction Framework can be found in: http://www.w3.org/TR/mmi-framework/ _______________________________________________ Speechsc mailing list Speechsc@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speechsc