From owner-spirits-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Wed Jan 5 15:04:14 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA14945 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 9A91D52EB; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:02:40 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id E221852EA; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:02:38 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: from ans.ih.lucent.com (ans.ih.lucent.com [135.2.78.5]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E35D652E2 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:02:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by ans.ih.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.5 sol2) id OAA17802; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:02:21 -0600 Cc: faynberg@lucent.com, makinae.naoto@lab.ntt.co.jp, spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from lucent.com by ans.ih.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.5 sol2) id OAA17715; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:02:11 -0600 Message-ID: <3873A344.F8897E17@lucent.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 14:02:12 -0600 From: Alec Brusilovsky Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.4 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ru,uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Slutsman, Lev A, ALSVC" Original-CC: igorf@hotair.hobl.lucent.com, makinae.naoto@lab.ntt.co.jp, spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Subject: Re: FW: Re: Meeting Notes V3 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lev, Igor, Thank you for responding and clarifying this issue. Regretfully, due to the family matters, I was unable to respond earlier. Holiday Greetings and let us all be good spirited this millennium, Alec "Slutsman, Lev A, ALSVC" wrote: > > I am completely agree with Igor's comments. Let me just ass my > own spin to some Q&A.: > > >> Q: Most services seem to be built from a small set of blocks. Do we > >> want > >> to start from a service such as ICW? > A: Our output is suppose to be an Internet protocol suitable for SPIRIT type > of services. In order to outline the protocol and architecture requirements > , we have selected three representative (in our opinion) services. > > >>Q:Could anyone elaborate what "blocks" really are? Are they similar to > service > >independent building blocks (SIBs) in the IN terminology? > A: Since our goal is the SPIRIT protocol rather than service > creation environment, SIB is out of question. We taking about protocol > building blocks. > > Best regards, Lev. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: igorf@hotair.hobl.lucent.com [SMTP:igorf@hotair.hobl.lucent.com] > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 7:24 PM > > To: makinae.naoto@lab.ntt.co.jp; spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com > > Subject: Re: FW: Re: Meeting Notes V3 > > > > > > Naoto MAKINAE wrote: > > > > > > > I wish I could have attended the kick-off meeting. > > > > Actually, the decisions in the IETF are made only on mailing lists, so > > there > > is a chance to make up for one's absence. > > > > >>Here are some comments and questions. > > > > > >> Question: Most services seem to be built from a small set of blocks. Do > > we > >> want > >> to start from a service such as ICW? > > > >> Answer: ICW is one of three examples of SPIRITS services that we > > >> have in our > > >> charter. WG is studying blocks that allow to construct example > > services. > > > > > >Could anyone elaborate what "blocks" really are? Are they similar to > > service > > >independent building blocks (SIBs) in the IN terminology? > > > > No, by no means SIBs. The "blocks" here are NOT meant to be API or model > > API. We discussed much of that during the BOF; as far as I understand the > > use > > of the word "blocks" here is a specification of a set of messages, > > possibly > > augmented by behavioral (i.e., sequencing) description, which can be used > > for > > a broad range of services. > > > > > > > >> Issue: Existing service logic must not be broken by what we put into > > the > > >> Internet. Real-time interactions between the Internet and PSTN will > > >> require that we interwork with SG-11 since all timers and other > > mechanisms > > >> must > > >> interwork seamlessly. > > > > > >What sort of concern is behind the issue? IMHO, the WG's effort will be > > >confined to the interworking of PSTN/IN and IP, and hence will not break > > >the existing IN specifications. Or are you saying that pre-SPIRITS > > >implementations should not be made a sort of obsolete by the WG's work? > > > > > > > The chairmen (who issued the report) should correct me if I am wrong. I > > interpreted this statement in exactly same way as Naoto did in his last > > sentence. This, as I recall, was the resolution of the meeting. > > > > ... > > > > >... The WG should not exclude the possibility of interfacing with > > >softswitches, call agents, gatekeepers, or SIP servers. > > > > > >The physical architecture expressed in > > >draft-faynberg-spirits-protocol-00.txt > > >implicitly excludes the possibility stated above, so the WG will need a > > new > > >one ... > > > > I disagree. The figure reflects what has been specfied in the charter. > > SPIRITS server interconnects with the PSTN via the IN (i.e., service > > control > > function). > > > > >... Interfacing > > >entities in the > > >telephone network might be service control points, service nodes, > > >softswtiches, call agents, > > >gatekeepers, or SIP servers, but the interface B (see below) must be the > > >same regardless of > > >the interfacing entity in the telephone network. > > > > Only service control points and service nodes (which have the > > service control function)--but not switches, for example--are to be > > connected to > > a SPIRITS server. > > > > But that does not mean that a soft switch cannot be supported. > > The whole idea of the soft switch is that it behaves to the PSTN as though > > it is a "normal" switch. Thus, a soft switch uses ISUP to talk to normal > > switches and it uses INAP to talk to SCPs. (This is where SIGTRAN comes to > > the > > rescue.) Similarly, a soft switch can get to the SN via Q.931+ interface. > > The soft switch needs to connect to SCP, to begin with (so > > as to get access to the existing IN-supported services). Thus, whatever a > > normal switch can communicate to the SPIRITS server via SCP, the soft > > switch can too, and in exactly the same way. > > > > Overall, connections to the IP telephony entities are strictly implicit in > > > > SPIRITS. > > > > > > > >The WG should also not preclude the possibility of open APIs around the > > >interface B at this point. > > > > > > > Actually, no WG may preclude that. The issue is really whether a WG is > > planning to work on it. I don't think SPIRITS does, and to the best of my > > knowledge, IETF is not dealing with APIs. As far as I can remember, > > SPIRITS > > chairmen have made a similar determination concerning SPIRITs. W3C would > > be a > > right place to deal with the API. I think Alec and Steve have actually > > written > > that somewhere in the report. > > > > With best wishes for the holiday, > > > > Igor > > From owner-spirits-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Tue Jan 11 09:55:32 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA11641 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 750DF52DF; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:54:10 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id DA52252DE; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:54:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: from hotair.hobl.lucent.com (hotair.hobl.lucent.com [199.118.135.2]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 86D4452AB for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lucent.com by hotair.hobl.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.5 sol2) id JAA06531; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:53:56 -0500 Message-ID: <387B43FE.A72CE291@lucent.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:53:50 -0500 From: Hui-Lan Lu Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.4 (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: zh-TW,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Subject: Plan for the Draft on Current Practices Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Members of SPIRITS WG: First, best wishes for the New Year! As discussed at the SPIRITS meeting, we plan to issue an implementation draft. I would like to start the work as soon as possible so that we can have a draft by the end of February. As we did before, I suggest that for now we all start with individual drafts reflecting the outline below. This outline is, of course, subject to corrections introduced in a discussion. Please comment on it. Working with the authors of individual drafts submitted to SPIRITS before FEBRUARY 14 (please note the date!), I plan to create the first version of the final I-D and submit it by March 1. Meanwhile, please let me know if you plan to co-author the future Informational RFC. Best regards, Hui-Lan Lu OUTLINE "On pre-Spirits Implementations of PSTN-initiated services: description and conclusions for the future" 1. Introduction What types of services these are Who implemented them and why What this document contains 2. Services 3. Architectures and Protocols 4. Conclusion From owner-spirits-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Tue Jan 25 19:18:42 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA10721 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 50C8F52E7; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:17:20 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id B16C952E6; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:17:18 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 47E7152E3 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Tue Jan 25 19:16:21 EST 2000 Received: from malmo.trab.se ([131.115.48.10]) by dusty; Tue Jan 25 19:14:15 EST 2000 Received: from trab-hermes.haninge.trab.se (trab-hermes.haninge.trab.se [131.115.158.15]) by malmo.trab.se (8.9.1/TRAB-primary-2) with ESMTP id BAA08936 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:16:19 +0100 (MET) Received: by trab-hermes.haninge.trab.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:16:17 +0100 Message-ID: <778DFE9B4E3BD111A74E08002BA3DC0D01DE499B@trab-hermes.haninge.trab.se> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F6ren_Nyckelg=E5rd?= To: spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Subject: Pre-SPIRITS implementation at GSM World Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:16:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id TAA10721 Do you wanna see and test a pre-SPIRITS implementation where a server interconnects GSM/PSTN/ISDN to SIP-based services? Then visit the Telia stand (A1) or Nortel stand (F26) at "GSM World 2000" in Cannes, France, 2-4 of February. --- Sören Nyckelgård Telia Research, Sweden From owner-spirits-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Wed Jan 26 09:21:36 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA04589 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id D19FC52EA; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:20:07 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 457A552E9; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:20:06 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: from ans.ih.lucent.com (ans.ih.lucent.com [135.2.78.5]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E638952E8 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by ans.ih.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.5 sol2) id IAA21490; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:19:36 -0600 Cc: spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Received: from lucent.com by ans.ih.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.5 sol2) id IAA21483; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:19:33 -0600 Message-ID: <388EF462.2159819E@lucent.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:19:30 -0500 From: Alec Brusilovsky Reply-To: abrusilovsky@lucent.com Organization: Lucent Technologies, Bell Laboratories Innovation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ru,uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6ren=20Nyckelg=E5rd?= Original-CC: spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Subject: Re: Pre-SPIRITS implementation at GSM World References: <778DFE9B4E3BD111A74E08002BA3DC0D01DE499B@trab-hermes.haninge.trab.se> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B5AE91F7E3394E2C7F75E467" Sender: owner-spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B5AE91F7E3394E2C7F75E467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sören, Could you or anyone elaborate more on this pre-SPIRITS implementation? Also, is there any on-line reference, related to that? I, personally, am quite intrigued and would like to know more about this pre-SPIRIS implementation. Regards, Alec Brusilovsky Sören Nyckelgård wrote: > Do you wanna see and test a pre-SPIRITS implementation where a server > interconnects GSM/PSTN/ISDN to SIP-based services? Then visit the Telia > stand (A1) or Nortel stand (F26) at "GSM World 2000" in Cannes, France, 2-4 > of February. > > --- > Sören Nyckelgård > Telia Research, Sweden --------------B5AE91F7E3394E2C7F75E467 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="abrusilovsky.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Alec Brusilovsky Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="abrusilovsky.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Brusilovsky;Alec x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Lucent (jg7290000) version:2.1 email;internet:abrusilovsky@lucent.com title:MTS tel;fax:+1 630 713 5840 tel;work:+1 630 713 8401 adr;quoted-printable:;;IHP 1A-423=0D=0A263 Shuman Blvd,P O Box 3050;Naperville;IL;60566-7050;U S x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Alec Brusilovsky end:vcard --------------B5AE91F7E3394E2C7F75E467-- From owner-spirits-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Wed Jan 26 16:20:58 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA11628 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:20:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 5DD1752F0; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:19:36 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id D341852EE; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:19:34 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: from ans.ih.lucent.com (ans.ih.lucent.com [135.2.78.5]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E793B52EE for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:19:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by ans.ih.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.5 sol2) id PAA03967; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:19:17 -0600 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6ren=20Nyckelg=E5rd?= , spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Cc: Hui-Lan Lu Received: from lucent.com by ans.ih.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.5 sol2) id PAA03956; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:19:15 -0600 Message-ID: <388F56C4.79F3AE3F@lucent.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:19:16 -0500 From: Alec Brusilovsky Reply-To: abrusilovsky@lucent.com Organization: Lucent Technologies, Bell Laboratories Innovation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ru,uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Original-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6ren=20Nyckelg=E5rd?= , spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Original-CC: Hui-Lan Lu Subject: Re: Pre-SPIRITS implementation at GSM World References: <778DFE9B4E3BD111A74E08002BA3DC0D01DE499B@trab-hermes.haninge.trab.se> <388EF462.2159819E@lucent.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------40688B87AE23B47A5FE5C0DC" Sender: owner-spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------40688B87AE23B47A5FE5C0DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sören, One of the milestones of SPIRITS WG will be publication of Current Practice document. Hui-Lan Lu was kind enough to volunteer (among others) her time for editing of this document. Please submit information related to pre-SPIRITS implementation in the form of ID. Hui-Lan will then collect your, as well as input of other pre-SPIRITS implementors into a single implementation draft. Please note that the submission deadline for individual IDs to be included into a single SPIRITS Implementation Document is February 14. Regards, Alec Brusilovsky Alec Brusilovsky wrote: > Sören, > > Could you or anyone elaborate more on this pre-SPIRITS implementation? > Also, is there any on-line reference, related to that? > > I, personally, am quite intrigued and would like to know more about this > pre-SPIRIS implementation. > > Regards, > Alec Brusilovsky > > Sören Nyckelgård wrote: > > > Do you wanna see and test a pre-SPIRITS implementation where a server > > interconnects GSM/PSTN/ISDN to SIP-based services? Then visit the Telia > > stand (A1) or Nortel stand (F26) at "GSM World 2000" in Cannes, France, 2-4 > > of February. > > > > --- > > Sören Nyckelgård > > Telia Research, Sweden > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: abrusilovsky.vcf > abrusilovsky.vcf Type: VCard (text/x-vcard) > Encoding: 7bit > Description: Card for Alec Brusilovsky --------------40688B87AE23B47A5FE5C0DC Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="abrusilovsky.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Alec Brusilovsky Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="abrusilovsky.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Brusilovsky;Alec x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Lucent (jg7290000) version:2.1 email;internet:abrusilovsky@lucent.com title:MTS tel;fax:+1 630 713 5840 tel;work:+1 630 713 8401 adr;quoted-printable:;;IHP 1A-423=0D=0A263 Shuman Blvd,P O Box 3050;Naperville;IL;60566-7050;U S x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Alec Brusilovsky end:vcard --------------40688B87AE23B47A5FE5C0DC-- From owner-spirits-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Thu Jan 27 09:48:52 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA06710 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id C0FCB52C8; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:47:19 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 3757C52BB; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:47:18 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8703552B6 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from dusty.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.7]) by scummy; Thu Jan 27 09:46:32 EST 2000 Received: from malmo.trab.se ([131.115.48.10]) by dusty; Thu Jan 27 09:44:27 EST 2000 Received: from trab-hermes.haninge.trab.se (trab-hermes.haninge.trab.se [131.115.158.15]) by malmo.trab.se (8.9.1/TRAB-primary-2) with ESMTP id PAA08179; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:46:28 +0100 (MET) Received: by trab-hermes.haninge.trab.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:46:27 +0100 Message-ID: <778DFE9B4E3BD111A74E08002BA3DC0D01DE49A7@trab-hermes.haninge.trab.se> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F6ren_Nyckelg=E5rd?= To: "'abrusilovsky@lucent.com'" Cc: Hui-Lan Lu , spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Subject: RE: Pre-SPIRITS implementation at GSM World Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:46:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id JAA06710 Alec, My client, Telia Mobile, that has financed most of the development work wish to go public with the solution on the GSM World Congress. I will submit a description to Hui-Lan right after that. I am aware of the February 14 deadline. We have considered to write an I-D since our implementation, as far as I can judge, comply to most of the SPIRITS requirements and has a distinct "IETF flavour". Those of you who have the opportunity to come to Cannes next week will see a "pre-SPIRITS server", which enables creation of multi-network services that can be distributed all over the Internet by means of SIP. We use NO proprietary protocols. The solution has been developed by Telia in cooperation with the Signaling Solutions Group of Nortel Networks. Regards, Sören -------------------------------------------- Sören Nyckelgård Telia Research AB Phone: +46 31 897771 Chalmers Telnikpark Fax: +46 31 825665 41288 Göteborg Mobile: +46 70 5732399 SWEDEN soren.m.nyckelgard@telia.se -------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Alec Brusilovsky [mailto:abrusilovsky@lucent.com] > Sent: den 26 januari 2000 21:19 > To: Sören Nyckelgård; spirits@lists.research.bell-labs.com > Cc: Hui-Lan Lu > Subject: Re: Pre-SPIRITS implementation at GSM World > > > Sören, > > One of the milestones of SPIRITS WG will be publication of > Current Practice > document. > Hui-Lan Lu was kind enough to volunteer > (among others) her > time for editing of this document. > Please submit information related to pre-SPIRITS > implementation in the form of > ID. Hui-Lan will then collect your, as well as input of other > pre-SPIRITS > implementors into a single implementation draft. > > Please note that the submission deadline for individual IDs > to be included into a > single SPIRITS Implementation Document is February 14. > > Regards, > Alec Brusilovsky > > > > Alec Brusilovsky wrote: > > > Sören, > > > > Could you or anyone elaborate more on this pre-SPIRITS > implementation? > > Also, is there any on-line reference, related to that? > > > > I, personally, am quite intrigued and would like to know > more about this > > pre-SPIRIS implementation. > > > > Regards, > > Alec Brusilovsky > > > > Sören Nyckelgård wrote: > > > > > Do you wanna see and test a pre-SPIRITS implementation > where a server > > > interconnects GSM/PSTN/ISDN to SIP-based services? Then > visit the Telia > > > stand (A1) or Nortel stand (F26) at "GSM World 2000" in > Cannes, France, 2-4 > > > of February. > > > > > > --- > > > Sören Nyckelgård > > > Telia Research, Sweden > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > Name: abrusilovsky.vcf > > abrusilovsky.vcf Type: VCard (text/x-vcard) > > Encoding: 7bit > > Description: Card for Alec Brusilovsky >