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From cdiot@sprintlabs.com Fri Sep 22 12:42:06 2000 Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA19999 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com [171.69.11.130]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA04774 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8MFIJG17234 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [208.30.174.2]) by proxy3.cisco.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14369 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sprintlabs.com (ip199-2-53-110.sprintlabs.com [199.2.53.110]) by mailman.sprintlabs.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id R668PN5Y; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:17:50 -0700 Message-ID: <39CB77B9.5AE3FD7D@sprintlabs.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:16:09 -0700 From: christophe diot Reply-To: cdiot@sprintlabs.com Organization: Sprint ATL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cost264@lip6.fr, rm@mash.CS.Berkeley.EDU, end2end-interest@isi.edu, tccc@ieee.org, itc@ieee.org, maddogs@ietf.org, ssm-interest@external.cisco.com, rmt@lbl.gov Subject: NGC 2000: call for posters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There will be 2 poster sessions during NGC 2000, November 8, 9, 10, in Stanford, CA. http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/ngc2000 Poster sessions are highly interactive sessions that give posters' authors an opportunity to discuss with workshop participants early research result or on-going research. The call for poster available on the NGC 2000 web site gives more details on how to submit a poster. From fenner@research.att.com Fri Sep 22 17:38:51 2000 Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id RAA26867 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com [171.71.163.110]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10506 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy1.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8MKQdH18511 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by proxy1.cisco.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27050 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E58D4CE6E; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA14090; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:22:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id NAA06667; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009222022.NAA06667@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: nagesh.chintada@alcatel.com Subject: Re: Archive? Cc: ssm-interest@external.cisco.com Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:22:48 -0700 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.2g/makemail 2.9a There's an unofficial archive at: http://www.aciri.org/fenner/mcast/ssm/html-archive/ Bill From njetha1@apollo.mctr.umbc.edu Mon Sep 25 14:09:11 2000 Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA09661 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com [171.69.11.130]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15426 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy2.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8PFxcV00117 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.mctr.umbc.edu (apollo.mctr.umbc.edu [130.85.101.89]) by proxy2.cisco.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08245 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbia.mctr.umbc.edu (columbia.mctr.umbc.edu [130.85.101.140]) by apollo.mctr.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24898 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (njetha1@localhost) by columbia.mctr.umbc.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23828 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:02:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: columbia.mctr.umbc.edu: njetha1 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:02:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Neelu Jethani X-Sender: njetha1@columbia.mctr.umbc.edu To: ssm-interest@external.cisco.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am a graduate student at the University of Maryland Baltimore County. I would like to know if there are any drafts for SSM and also if there are any public implementations/simulators already developed for SSM. Thanks, Neelu ______________________________________________________________________________ Neelu Jethani Research Assistant - MCTR University of Maryland Baltimore County Phone : 410 455 3063 EMail : njetha1@mctr.umbc.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ From tme@21rst-century.com Mon Sep 25 17:29:00 2000 Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id RAA14795 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com [171.69.2.19]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01345 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8PKCBR03426 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ids2.idsonline.com (ids2.idsonline.com [205.177.236.32]) by proxy3.cisco.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04831 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idsonline.com (ids2.idsonline.com [205.177.236.32]) by ids2.idsonline.com (8.9.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA04148; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:27:28 -0400 From: "Marshall Eubanks" Sender: tme@idsonline.com Reply-to: tme@21rst-century.com To: Neelu Jethani , ssm-interest@external.cisco.com Cc: marty@multicasttech.com Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:27:28 -0400 X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6k, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <39cfb530.1032.0@idsonline.com> X-User-Info: 45.5.0.228 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Hi, > >I am a graduate student at the University of Maryland Baltimore County. > >I would like to know if there are any drafts for SSM and also if there are >any public implementations/simulators already developed for SSM. Drafts there are : http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-holbrook-ssm-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-holbrook-ssm-arch-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sandick-pimsm-ssmrules-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-shepherd-ssm232-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bhattach-pim-ssm-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-holbrook-idmr-igmpv3-ssm-00.txt I am not aware of any public implementations; the LINUX kernal for IGMP v3 is now available. Regards Marshall Eubanks > >Thanks, >Neelu > >______________________________________________________________________________ > Neelu Jethani > Research Assistant - MCTR > University of Maryland Baltimore County > Phone : 410 455 3063 > EMail : njetha1@mctr.umbc.edu >_______________________________________________________________________________ > From tme@21rst-century.com Mon Sep 25 17:29:01 2000 Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id RAA14805 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com [171.69.11.130]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24118 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy1.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8PK3b828974 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ids2.idsonline.com (ids2.idsonline.com [205.177.236.32]) by proxy1.cisco.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27898 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idsonline.com (ids2.idsonline.com [205.177.236.32]) by ids2.idsonline.com (8.9.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA03667; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:20:25 -0400 From: "Marshall Eubanks" Sender: tme@idsonline.com Reply-to: tme@21rst-century.com To: Neelu Jethani , ssm-interest@external.cisco.com Cc: marty@multicasttech.com Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:20:25 -0400 X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6k, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <39cfb389.e50.0@idsonline.com> X-User-Info: 45.5.0.228 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Hi, > >I am a graduate student at the University of Maryland Baltimore County. > >I would like to know if there are any drafts for SSM and also if there are >any public implementations/simulators already developed for SSM. Drafts there are : http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-holbrook-ssm-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-holbrook-ssm-arch-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sandick-pimsm-ssmrules-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-shepherd-ssm232-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bhattach-pim-ssm-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-holbrook-idmr-igmpv3-ssm-00.txt I am not aware of any public implementations; the LINUX kernal for IGMP v3 is now available. Regards Marshall Eubanks > >Thanks, >Neelu > >______________________________________________________________________________ > Neelu Jethani > Research Assistant - MCTR > University of Maryland Baltimore County > Phone : 410 455 3063 > EMail : njetha1@mctr.umbc.edu >_______________________________________________________________________________ > From cdiot@sprintlabs.com Mon Sep 25 20:06:01 2000 Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id UAA17914 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com [171.69.2.19]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA03640 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8PMHVP01325 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [208.30.174.2]) by proxy3.cisco.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00547 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sprintlabs.com (ip199-2-54-230.sprintlabs.com [199.2.54.230]) by mailman.sprintlabs.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id R668PSDF; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:17:02 -0700 Message-ID: <39CF829E.A45A14A2@sprintlabs.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:51:42 -0700 From: Christophe Diot Organization: SPRINT ATL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cost264@lip6.fr, rm@mash.CS.Berkeley.EDU, end2end-interest@isi.edu, tccc@ieee.org, itc@ieee.org, maddogs@ietf.org, ssm-interest@external.cisco.com, rmt@lbl.gov Subject: NGC 2000: posters submission extension References: <39CB77B9.5AE3FD7D@sprintlabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Given that we have allocated a week extension to almost all poster authors, we decided to extend the poster submission deadline until until next sunday. But there will be no further extension granted :) NGC 2000 - Networked Group Communication http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/ngc2000 From cdiot@sprintlabs.com Tue Sep 26 20:06:45 2000 Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id UAA18017 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com [171.69.2.19]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01223 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy1.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8QMEY022001 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [208.30.174.2]) by proxy1.cisco.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06167 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sprintlabs.com (ip199-2-53-110.sprintlabs.com [199.2.53.110]) by mailman.sprintlabs.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id R668P42G; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:13:19 -0700 Message-ID: <39D11F0B.934908B9@sprintlabs.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:11:23 -0700 From: christophe diot Reply-To: cdiot@sprintlabs.com Organization: Sprint ATL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cost264@lip6.fr, rm@mash.CS.Berkeley.EDU, end2end-interest@isi.edu, tccc@ieee.org, itc@ieee.org, maddogs@ietf.org, ssm-interest@external.cisco.com, rmt@lbl.gov Subject: NGC 2000: registration open Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Registration in now open for NGC 2000 www.cs.ucsb.edu/ngc2000 Please notice that workshop participation is limited 100. From osnaty@cs.huji.ac.il Wed Sep 27 21:14:50 2000 Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id VAA25916 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:14:50 -0400 (EDT) From: osnaty@cs.huji.ac.il Received: from sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com [171.69.11.130]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA10139 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8RNlTl02398 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by proxy3.cisco.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04964 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halva.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.200.201]) by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13eQrM-0007hn-00 for ssm-interest@external.cisco.com; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 02:43:32 +0300 Received: (from osnaty@localhost) by halva.cs.huji.ac.il (8.9.3/1.1c) id CAA27109; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 02:43:31 +0300 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:10:31 +0300 (IDT) To: ssm-interest@cisco.com cc: Yuval Shavitt Subject: Latency at the receiver's side Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ReSent-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 02:42:58 +0300 (IDT) ReSent-From: Osnat Mokryn ReSent-To: ssm-interest@external.cisco.com ReSent-Subject: Latency at the receiver's side ReSent-Message-ID: Hello, I'm trying to find estimations on the delay a receiver suffers when trying to join a multicast group. Are there any statistics from active multicast networks? Does it depend on the amount of receivers at that subnetwork (to the same multicast group or other multiple groups?) Thank you, Ossi Mokryn. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Osnat (ossi) Mokryn :: tel: +972-2-6585770 Computer Science Institute :: http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~osnaty Hebrew University :: osnaty@cs.huji.ac.il Jerusalem, Israel :: fax: +972-2-6585439 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From nagesh.chintada@alcatel.com Thu Sep 28 13:25:30 2000 Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA27173 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com [171.69.2.19]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01096 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8SG22118270 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nsa-mail.us.newbridge.com ([209.58.11.226]) by proxy3.cisco.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29050 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by nsa-mail.us.newbridge.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA18323 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:50:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nsa-gw1.us.newbridge.com(209.58.11.225), claiming to be "herndon-mh1.us.newbridge.com" via SMTP by nsa-mail.us.newbridge.com, id smtpdAAAa004UD; Thu Sep 28 11:50:07 2000 Received: from nsamail01.us.newbridge.com by herndon-mh1.us.newbridge.com with ESMTP for ssm-interest@external.cisco.com; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:57:41 -0400 Received: from alcatel.com ([138.120.241.43]) by nsamail01.us.newbridge.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA3CA0 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:57:40 -0400 Message-Id: <39D36B9B.7C59D805@alcatel.com> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:02:35 -0400 From: "Nagesh Chintada" Organization: Carrier Internetworking Division, Alcatel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SSM Subject: SSM implementations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am looking for implementations of SSM, preferably in the public domain. I would also like to know if there are any trials that are ongoing. When is any deployment of SSM expected? In addition, I would like to know if any work is being done on defining the MIBs for SSM. I would appreciate any and all information. Thank you, Nagesh