From nobody Tue Jul 4 07:47:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FC8131934 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2017 07:47:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A3gWCX5AL4yv for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2017 07:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.cira.ca (mx2.cira.ca [192.228.22.117]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922BF131925 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2017 07:47:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at corp.cira.ca Received: from EXCH-02.CORP.CIRA.CA ([fe80::3c25:d5f2:72b8:e35c]) by EXCH-01.CORP.CIRA.CA ([fe80::2073:dbc0:bb14:ab50%19]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:47:24 -0400 From: Jacques Latour To: "sunset4@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [sunset4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis-08.txt Thread-Index: AQHS7p6z5V1RNkVIlka5XEKR1IUtxKJDy1iQ Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 14:47:24 +0000 Message-ID: References: <149849684615.18420.14124996388059665238@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <149849684615.18420.14124996388059665238@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.2.36.120] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sunset4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis-08.txt X-BeenThere: sunset4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: sunset4 working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 14:47:26 -0000 > The final phase of the migration to IPv6 is the sunset of IPv4, that > is turning off IPv4 definitively on the attached networks and on the > upstream networks. The problem statements for sunsetting IPv4 on "attached networks" are diffe= rent than the one from "upstream networks". I think the focus should be on= " turning off IPv4 definitively" on "upstream networks". The Internet its= elf, not the intranets, and doing a gap analysis focused on what is require= d at a minimum for "attached networks" to work in this environment, and wha= t is required for the "upstream network" to work exclusively in IPv6. > -----Original Message----- > From: sunset4 [mailto:sunset4-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 1:07 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: sunset4@ietf.org > Subject: [sunset4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis-08.txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Sunsetting IPv4 of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Gap Analysis for IPv4 Sunset > Authors : Will(Shucheng) Liu > Weiping Xu > Cathy Zhou > Tina Tsou > Simon Perreault > China Mobile > Filename : draft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis-08.txt > Pages : 11 > Date : 2017-06-26 >=20 > Abstract: > Sunsetting IPv4 refers to the process of turning off IPv4 > definitively. It can be seen as the final phase of the migration to > IPv6. This memo enumerates difficulties arising when sunsetting > IPv4, and identifies the gaps requiring additional work. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis-08 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis-08 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-sunset4-gapanalysis-08 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > sunset4 mailing list > sunset4@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sunset4 From nobody Sun Jul 16 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[IPv6:2620:0:230:2001::1004]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B551047589; Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:55:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc Blanchet" To: "Brzozowski, John" Cc: "draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental@ietf.org" , "Jim Martin" , "Alissa Cooper" , "Russ Housley" , "Randy Bush" , "Suresh Krishnan" , "Jari Arkko" , sunset4@ietf.org Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 02:55:42 +0200 Message-ID: <54F1DACB-4ED3-46B9-85DE-00C105ED79BA@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5347) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sunset4] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings X-BeenThere: sunset4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: sunset4 working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 00:55:47 -0000 On 16 Jul 2017, at 20:28, Brzozowski, John wrote: > Folks, > > Apologies in advance for the gratuitous cross posting (v6ops, ietf, = > ipv6, sunset4, softwires). I hope, to you all, this is worth the = > added email. > > The draft below was written to provide the necessary documentation to = > enable the IETF (the NOC, participants, etc.) to migrate to an IPv6 = > only primary network connection (Wi-Fi and wired) that utilizes = > NAT64+DNS64 to access IPv4 only content. The request for IETF 99 has = > been to have the primary =E2=80=9Cietf=E2=80=9D SSID adhere to what is = documented = > in the I-D below. I trust the motivation is understood. This means = > that the main =E2=80=9Cietf=E2=80=9D SSID would be switched to be IPv6 = only with = > NAT64+DNS64 (at layer 3) per the I-D below. Given the that IETF99 is = > upon us, this may or may not be entirely possible. > > At this stage, the infrastructure preparations for IETF 99 should be = > in place to ensure that the IETF has the necessary hardware for = > redundancy and performance. > > So, we are all seeking your input. Given the above, what would all = > you suggest is tolerable for IETF99 as it pertains to the I-D below? > > =E2=80=A2 IPv6 only per the I-D for the balance of IETF week? > =E2=80=A2 IPv6 only per the I-D for one or more days this week? > =E2=80=A2 IPv6 only per the I-D for the plenary? > =E2=80=A2 IPv6 only per the I-D for the next IETF meeting? While I=E2=80=99ve been a proponent of IPv6 for a long time, including ou= r own = open-source implementation of nat64/dns64, we shall be careful, so I = would suggest that for this week, we pick a day for experiment, say = wednesday, and then for IETF100, we have it for the whole meeting, great = accomplishment for 100! Marc. > > Please send us your feedback. > > Regards, > > John > +1-484-962-0060 > > -----Original Message----- > From: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" > Date: Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 03:04 > To: Marcus Keane , Jen Linkova = > , Lorenzo Colitti , John = > Brzozowski , Erik Kline = > , John Brzozowski , = > David Schinazi , Stuart Cheshire = > , Jen Linkova , Paul Saab = > , David Schinazi > Subject: New Version Notification for = > draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental-00.txt > > > A new version of I-D, = > draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by John Jason Brzozowski and = > posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental > Revision: 00 > Title: Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF = > Meetings > Document date: 2017-06-30 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 15 > URL: = > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-in= cremental-00.txt > Status: = > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-increm= ental/ > Htmlized: = > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-incremental= -00 > Htmlized: = > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-jjmb-v6ops-ietf-ipv6-only-i= ncremental-00 > > > Abstract: > The purpose of this document is to provide a blueprint and = > guidance > for deploying IPv6-only Wi-Fi at IETF meetings. This document > outlines infrastructure and operational guidance that operators > should consider when deploying IPv6-only networks using NAT64 = > and > DNS64 to support communication to legacy IPv4-only services. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at = > tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sunset4 mailing list > sunset4@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sunset4 From nobody Mon Jul 17 00:35:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B14A131945; Mon, 17 Jul 2017 00:35:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, 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