From nobody Sun Oct 1 06:13:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46061134958; Sun, 1 Oct 2017 06:13:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yXdoQgrFqom9; Sun, 1 Oct 2017 06:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io0-x22f.google.com (mail-io0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1605E134957; Sun, 1 Oct 2017 06:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 21so2928475iof.6; Sun, 01 Oct 2017 06:13:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jcgLiej3zSlSEri6FRZrYkGqNmVNJEHm6qmuwWOrVuE=; b=DOwMfLD445pGWMoq/8OAggaUPaXB+j0D4uVe7d8xQjFHiQRRcyxwUSmIKhEM829foC cWPhagJrbhy2CXLoKt9MTVnDbTzkiwaBefUb6c+pXeV+74sSupV2UdUn+eW2y8Nda6zJ VYXKS5kdqBHC7P6Pex4r9RzyFTAJyS+DTNcgV59rfIh1aT0Whr2SQYaI2CQCe5giDeH2 CQHXm1gxF6adapyagcFvVFKA8kUsD6YuMYcfdHTgkmbecoy6y47OcylC4zhzGrsx+j5K wV7cpEPKc/yu3z9oLX479jirbDaNOGP/4OARtJlIeyRWxbDzsCz/IZjobTNhBFxvc+QA 0N6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jcgLiej3zSlSEri6FRZrYkGqNmVNJEHm6qmuwWOrVuE=; b=ruAjrC00Vca6B/emPqFlqQ/5jWeC1g0iZOcgP088MvXBLyxBMk5c9k+K0+3CD+n0nA Pexj+03llx8AiDblWOG/9kGAyiHx2YeaSgm0SLj0IF6Tz4x9uo7WYLHjChxstqfyMtNj 9ZgaFwoNGb7yDeQzUzU5DoudoA/sMvIxATwM/aUrI8E9ZDBC2q+XYREcN7akIS2I5Kkx FAIF1XzPTdDMWRWQM0fUFL5MXXKcFYxfnhlWOgfkaKO9ubwjn3Ld5TvvqSlUwprpUTfh A8lC3QOGxkdXgCzzUZGGZ7KY3TZ9J6vFIhISx27NVt/UVD6viZaEqZF1fii0TckMiwPP 3BRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUzSnO4mprfgcBtF8Fj29h+zfQJ0fzhJfJcPDHVoQh1gKHP5vfR zzPZ8LZoQdkyjke21fGWsPYO4DCoc2jvUx5Yix0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBKS77lPiXKuawTS5LIhvRIoVhdnMqUOEKu8lNcIvSkAjh96MlXIHz2nK18nA/qml9Wjjj9gVTHH1m28TVZpNg= X-Received: by 10.107.149.143 with SMTP id x137mr21219697iod.266.1506863604142; Sun, 01 Oct 2017 06:13:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.7.216 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Oct 2017 06:13:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8wh65ldo8qkrghsf29x4nukb.1506702288623@email.android.com> References: <8wh65ldo8qkrghsf29x4nukb.1506702288623@email.android.com> From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 09:13:23 -0400 Message-ID: To: Elwyn Davies Cc: gen-art@ietf.org, draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org, ietf , "teas@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1140fe74d99986055a7c05bf" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2017 13:13:29 -0000 --001a1140fe74d99986055a7c05bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Elwyn, Hi! Please see inline for responses. Regards, -Pavan On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Elwyn Davies wrote: > > > Hi, Pavan. > > I've checked through the changes in -07 and I think all is good as regards > fixing the 'major issue', restucturing s2 and fixing the nits - thanks. > [Pavan] Great! > Looking at the IESG comments I think you have covered most of them except > it would be good to put a pointer to Appendix A into the intro of s2. > > With reference to Appendix A(d), it would be helpful to s/periodic > retransmission interval/Periodic Retransmission Interval/ and possibly give > it a name (Rpri or some such) in s2.3 and Appendix A(d). Adding the name > of the interval after "retransmission of these on a slower timer" migt mak > it clearer also. > [Pavan] Ok. We'll add a pointer to the Appendix and also find a short form for the periodic retransmission interval. > > However, I think you still need to address all three of the minor issues: > - Capability object: A 'basic' implementation of RFC 2209/RFC3209 will > not include the RFC5063 extensions. > [Pavan] I think you meant RFC2205 and not RFC2209. I think you should therefore make it explicit that a prerequisite for your > extensions is an implementation of the Capability object as specified in > RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , making it clear that this does not require > any of the other functionality of RFC 5063, especially no support for the S > bit in the Capabilities. > [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capability Object" needs a separate prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD take a call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate section for RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and "Node Hellos", there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarified. We could just add a statement in Section 4.1 saying that you don't need to set any other flags. Would that address your concern about the ambiguity regarding the "Graceful Restart" bits? OLD An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello messages. NEW An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello messages. This MAY be the only flag set in the object. - Your response regarding what happens if a peer initially acknowledges > that it supports the new capabilities by setting the I/F bits in the > Capability and sends some messages with the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit > set, but then stops setting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't > really address the problem. Would this mean that the receiver should > assume that the peer can no longer support the extensions? > [Pavan] Yes. Is this a permanent state or could the peer start setting the > Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and restore initial functionality - or > should this just not be allowed. > [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionality. I think you need to think through what happes in the various possible cases > and explain what an implementation should do in each case. > [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the implementation does everything that is specified as required for the given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation doesn't employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'll try and add some text to make this obvious. > - So, I have done my homework and checked back on what happens when there > is no acknowledgement of refreshes. The relevant parameter is the cleanup > time. However, this leaves us with a problem.. the cleanup time is > typically set as a multiple of the refresh interval (9 times seems to be > the default) - indeed I see that the interface configuration on a Juniper > router (!) actually sets it by asking for the multiple rather than an > absolute value. Wth the new dispensation in ths document, there are two > time periods involved: I think you do need to respecify how to calculate a > sensible cleanup interval, and note that the retransmissions will then halt > after this interval. > [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01 for a detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3) that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from what you are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not just PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In Section 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry limit is reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this needs to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding state is torn down. > Does this last modification constitute an update of RFC 2209? I am not > sure -consult your AD! > [Pavan] RFC2209 is an informational document that provides guidance on the various data-models and procedures needed for an implementation to be RFC2205 compliant. Most of the content in RFC2209 is outdated (imho). No one has had the inclination over the years to update this and we don't intend to do this either. [Pavan] Reading through the various questions/comments from the IESG, I'm convinced that this document needs to formally update RFC2961. We'll go ahead and do that if the shepherd and our AD have no objections. > > Regards, > Elwyn > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Date: 28/09/2017 03:48 (GMT+00:00) > To: Elwyn Davies > Cc: gen-art@ietf.org, draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org, > ietf , teas@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 > > > Elwyn, Hi! > > Thanks for the detailed review and the text suggestions. We just posted a > new revision (-07) to address the concerns listed below. Please go through > the new diffs (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te- > scaling-rec-07) and let us know if additional changes are required. > > Please see inline for further responses (prefixed VPB). > > Regards, > -Pavan > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Elwyn Davies > wrote: > >> Reviewer: Elwyn Davies >> Review result: Not Ready >> >> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area >> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed >> by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just >> like any other last call comments. >> >> For more information, please see the FAQ at >> >> . >> >> Document: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 >> Reviewer: Elwyn Davies >> Review Date: 2017-09-22 >> IETF LC End Date: 2017-09-22 >> IESG Telechat date: 2017-09-28 >> >> Summary: Not ready, primarily because the title and presentation give the >> impression that the content is really a BCP when it isn't. This conceals >> the >> considerable amount of tweaking of RFC 2961 functionality and addition of >> new >> RSVP Capabilities described in the document. There are also a couple of >> minor >> issues that need to be sorted out. >> >> Major issues: >> Title and way proposals are presented: The document defines two new >> 'capabilities' for RSVP-TE and is indeed (as specified in the document >> header) >> correctly intended for Standards Track status. However the title and the >> whole >> of the meat of the document in Section 2 presents the proposals as >> 'recommendations' which says to me that I am expecting a BCP where a >> profile of >> available options from existing standards is recommended as the best >> choice for >> implementation and deployment. In my opinion, the title would be better >> as >> something like "Additional Capabilities Designed to Improve the >> Scalability of >> RSVP-TE Deployments". Whilst the proposals are based on the techniques >> in RFC >> 2961, the document *requires* the implementor to conform to rules that >> were >> optional and constrains configurable values to different ranges in order >> to be >> able to deliver the capabilities defined in the document as well as >> defining >> new RSVP extensions modifying some of the behaviour defined in RFC 2961. >> Thus >> although some of the rules could be met by choosing particular values >> within >> the RFC 2961 set, the use of MUST, tweaking of functionality and >> variation of >> ranges takes it well beyond a set of recommendations for RFC 2961 options >> selections. In view of this Section 1 needs to be written as an >> introduction >> to the definitions of the new capabilities rather than advocacy for >> selection >> of RFC 2961 options and the implication that the techniques mentioned in >> the >> last paragraph of s1 are just a matter of selecting a profile of option >> values. >> In actuality new protocol values are introduced and ss2.2 and 2.3 define >> novel >> extensions to RSVP beyond what is available for RFC 2961 and requiring >> modification to basic RFC 2961 functionality.. >> >> > [VPB] We changed the title to "Techniques to Improve the Scalability of > RSVP-TE Deployments". We also tweaked the text in the introduction section > as suggested. Please see if the new set of diffs address the comment above. > > Minor issues: >> Interaction with RFC 5063: The document does not explicitly state that an >> implementation would need to support (at least) the extra capability obect >> defined in s4.2 of RFC 5063. Some words about interaction with RFC 5063 >> are >> probably required in that s4.2.1 of RFC 5063 rather assumes that if there >> is a >> capability object, by default its S bit will be set. >> > > [VPB] The CAPABILITY object in RFC5063 is meant for generic use and can be > used even when there are no Graceful Restart extensions in play (even when > no GR flags are set). As far as we can tell, there is nothing in RFC5063 > that precludes this. We added a reference to RFC5063 when the new > Capability flags are introduced. Would this be sufficient to address this > concern? > > >> >> Behaviour if a node stops setting Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit: The >> last para >> of s2 in RFC 2961 discusses behaviour if a node stops setting this bit in >> messages. What would happen with the extensions defined in this document >> if >> this happened while either of the extensions is in use? As a matter of >> interest, if a peer offers the capabilities defined in this draft, is it >> possible or sensible for it to stop setting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable >> bit >> without stopping offering the extensions? >> > > [VPB] If a peer sets the I or F bit in the CAPABILITY object but does not > set the Refresh-Reduction-capable bit, then the corresponding functionality > ("RI-RSVP" or "Per-Peer Flow-Control") is not activated for that peer. In > other words, resetting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit immediately makes > the node incapable of supporting the two capabilities discussed in this > document. This is covered in Sections 3.1 and 4.1 ( -07 version). > > >> s2.1.3, para 2: As specified, it appears that the 'slower timer' >> transmission >> of Path and Resv messages can go on indefinitely if no ack arrives. What >> puts >> an end to this repetition? [It may be that I have forgotten how basic >> RSVP >> works, but since this is altering the behaviour it would be good to >> explain how >> it terminates, and whether this requires any additional modification to >> timers.] >> > > [VPB] There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting > transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling behavior) -- > all that this section does is discuss how these transmissions are paced in > the absence of an ack. The slower timer transmission will go on until > either an ack is received (at which point the regular "refresh interval" > comes into play) or the corresponding LSP instance state is torn down. > > >> Nits/editorial comments: >> Abstract: RSVP-TE is not a 'well-known' abbreviation: s/RSVP-TE/RSVP >> Traffic >> Engineering (RSVP-TE)/ >> > >> Abstract and s1, first para: This para is not future proof. Suggest: >> OLD: >> The scale at which RSVP-TE [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) get >> deployed is growing continually and there is considerable onus on >> RSVP-TE implementations across the board to keep up with this >> increasing demand in scale. >> NEW: >> At the time of writing, networks which utilise RSVP Traffic Engineering >> (RSVP-TE) [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) are encountering >> limitations >> in the ability of implementations to support the growth in the number >> of LSPs >> deployed. This document defines two additional RSVP-TE extensions that >> are intended to reduce the number of messages needed to maintain >> RSVP-TE >> soft state in routers and hence allow implementations to support larger >> scale deployments. >> ENDS >> Note: Omit reference from Abstract. >> >> > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > s1, para 2: s/under certain/beyond a certain/ >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> s1, para 3: s/makes a set of concrete implementation >> recommendations/defines >> two extensions/; s/- push higher/by increasing/; s/maintain LSP >> state./maintain >> LSP state by reducing the number of messages needed./ >> >> Abstract, para 2 and s1, last para: [Omit reference from Abstract] >> OLD: >> This document advocates the use of a couple of techniques - "Refresh- >> Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer Flow-Control" - >> for significantly cutting down the amount of processing cycles >> required to maintain LSP state. >> NEW: >> This document defines two RSVP Capabilities [RFC5063] "Refresh- >> Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer Flow-Control" >> that will cut down the number of messsages and processing cycles >> required to maintain LSP state. >> ENDS >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> s1, last para: Add new penultimate sentence: >> Note that the "Per-Peer Flow-Control" capability requires the "RI-RSVP" >> capability as a prerequisite. >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> s1, last para: s/RECOMMENDED/recommended/ - this isn't a recommendation >> about >> the protocol on the wire. >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> Subdivision of s2: The issues regarding the nature of the document would >> be >> helped by altering s2 into four top level sections, thus: s2: Requirement >> for >> RFC 2961 Refresh Overhead Reduction Support and Specific Option Choices >> (from >> s2.1) s3: Requirement for RFC 5063 Capability Object support (see Minor >> Issues >> above) s4: Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Capability (from s2.3) s5: >> Per-Peer RSVP Flow Control Capability (from s2.4) Subsequent major >> sections >> then renumbered as s6 onwards. References to s2.x will need to be updated >> throughout. >> > > [VPB] We subdivided s2 into 3 top level sections. We did not add a > separate section for discussing RFC5063 Capability Object support. > > >> s2.1 (would be introduction of new s2): >> OLD: >> The implementation recommendations discussed in this section are >> based on the proposals made in [RFC2961] and act as prerequisites for >> implementing the techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and 2.3. >> >> NEW: >> The Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5 of this document are >> based on >> proposals made in [RFC2961]. Implementations of these Capabilities >> will >> need to support the RSVP messages and techniques defined in [RFC2961] >> as set >> out in Section 2.1 [was 2.1.1] with >> some minor modifications and alterations to recommended time intervals >> and >> iteration counts as defined in the remainder of this section. >> ENDS >> >> > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > s2.1.1, title and para 1 [will be s2.1]: >> OLD: >> 2.1.1. Basic Prerequisites >> >> An implementation that supports the techniques discussed in Sections >> 2.2 and 2.3 must meet certain basic prerequisites. >> NEW: >> 2.1. Required Functionality from RFC 2961 to be Implemented >> >> An implementation that supports the capabiities discussed in Sections >> 4 and 5 must provide a large subset of the functionality described >> in [RFC2961] as follows: >> ENDS >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> s2.1.2, para 2 [will be s2.2]: s/techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and >> 2.3/Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5/ >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> s2.1.2, para 2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/ >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> s2.2, para 1: s/improvement on transmission overhead/improvement of >> transmission overhead/ >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> s2.2, para 1: s/proposes sufficient recommendations/sets out additional >> requirements/ >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> s2.2, last bullet: Add a reference to the proposed new Section 3 that >> discusses >> the Capability object. >> > > [VPB] Added a direct reference to RFC5063 > > >> s2.2.1, last para: s/set Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in common >> header/set the >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in the common header/ >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> s2.3, para 1: s/set of recommendations/functionality/; >> s/provide/provides/; >> s/RSVP-TE control plane congestion/a significant portion of the RSVP-TE >> control >> message load/ >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> s2.3.2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/ >> > > [VPB] Fixed in -07 > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> > > --001a1140fe74d99986055a7c05bf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Elwyn, Hi!

Please see inline f= or responses.

Regards,
-Pavan
=

On Fri, Sep 29, 2= 017 at 1:34 PM, Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com> wro= te:


Hi, Pavan.

I've checked = through the changes in -07 and I think all is good as regards fixing the &#= 39;major issue', restucturing s2 and fixing the nits - thanks.

[Pavan] Great!


Loo= king at the IESG comments I think you have covered most of them=C2=A0 excep= t it would be good to put a pointer to Appendix A into the intro of s2.=C2= =A0

With reference to Appendix A(d), it would be h= elpful to s/periodic retransmission interval/Periodic Retransmission Interv= al/ and possibly give it a name (Rpri or some such)=C2=A0 in s2.3 and Appen= dix A(d).=C2=A0 Adding the name of the interval after "retransmission = of these on a slower timer" migt mak it clearer also.

[Pavan] Ok. We'll add a pointer to the Appe= ndix and also find a short form for the periodic retransmission interval. <= br>

However,=C2=A0 I think you still need to address all three of the = minor issues:
- Capability object:=C2=A0 A 'basic' implem= entation of RFC 2209/RFC3209 will not include the RFC5063 extensions.=C2=A0=

[Pavan] I think you meant RFC= 2205 and not RFC2209.

I think you should therefore make it expli= cit that a prerequisite for your extensions is an implementation of the Cap= ability object as specified in RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , making it cle= ar that this does not require any of the other functionality of RFC 5063, e= specially no support for the S bit in the Capabilities.

[Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capabil= ity Object" needs a separate prerequisite section. I'll let the Do= cument-Shepherd and our AD take a call on this. Please note that the docume= nt also talks about using Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hel= los/RFC4558" also then need a separate prerequisite section? We added = a separate section for RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarif= y the usage of certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" = and "Node Hellos", there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to = be explicitly clarified. We could just add a statement in Section 4.1 sayin= g that you don't need to set any other flags. Would that address your c= oncern about the ambiguity regarding the "Graceful Restart" bits?=

OLD
   An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new
   flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in He=
llo
   messages.
NEW
   An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new
   flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in He=
llo
   messages. This MAY be the only flag set in the object.

<= /div>
-=C2=A0 Yo= ur response regarding what happens if a peer initially acknowledges that it= supports the new capabilities by setting the I/F bits in the Capability an= d sends some messages with the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit set, but then = stops setting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't really address = the problem.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Would this mean that the receiver should assume th= at the peer can no longer support the extensions?=C2=A0

[Pavan] Yes.

Is this a permanent state or c= ould the peer start setting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and res= tore initial functionality - or should this just not be allowed.

[Pavan] The peer can set the bit again a= nd restore the functionality.

I think you need to think through w= hat happes in the various possible cases and explain what an implementation= should do in each case.

[Pavan= ] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality enabled on the p= eer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the implementation does = everything that is specified as required for the given technique. If it is = not enabled, then the implementation doesn't employ the technique and j= ust behaves like it does today. We'll try and add some text to make thi= s obvious.
=C2=A0
- So, I have done my homework and checked back on wha= t happens when there is no acknowledgement of refreshes. The relevant param= eter is the cleanup time.=C2=A0 However, this leaves us with a problem.. th= e cleanup time is typically set as a multiple of the refresh interval (9 ti= mes seems to be the default) - indeed I see that the interface configuratio= n on a Juniper router (!) actually sets it by asking for the multiple rathe= r than an absolute value.=C2=A0 Wth the new dispensation in ths document, t= here are two time periods involved:=C2=A0 I think you do need to respecify = how to calculate a sensible cleanup interval, and note that the retransmiss= ions will then halt after this interval.

<= /div>
[Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry= " timer (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LS= P instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through https://= tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01 for a deta= iled account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it and recommende= d practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3) that comes into play w= hen there is no ACK is different from what you are alluding to -- it is mea= nt for any message seeking ACK (not just PATH). This is very specific to th= e exponential back-off procedure discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per = RFC2961, the rapid retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limi= t. In Section 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry= limit is reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid = retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this needs to be= done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding state is torn do= wn.


Does this last modification constitute an upda= te of RFC 2209?=C2=A0 I am not sure -consult your AD!

[Pavan] RFC2209 is an informational document that pr= ovides guidance on the=20 various data-models and procedures needed for an implementation to be=20 RFC2205 compliant. Most of the content in RFC2209 is outdated (imho). No on= e has had the inclination over the years to update this and we don't=20 intend to do this either.

[Pavan] Reading thr= ough the various questions/comments from the IESG, I'm convinced that t= his document needs to formally update RFC2961. We'll go ahead and do th= at if the shepherd and our AD have no objections.
=C2=A0

Regards,
Elwyn=C2=A0

Sent from Samsung tablet.

-------- Original message --------
From: Vishnu Pavan Beera= m <vishnupava= n@gmail.com>
Date: 28/09/2017 03:48 (GMT+00:00)
<= div>To: Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: Re:= [Teas] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec= -06

Elwyn, Hi!
<= div>
Thanks for the detailed review and the text suggestions.= We just posted a new revision (-07) to address the concerns listed below. = Please go through the new diffs (https://www.= ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-07) and let us know if additional changes are required.

=
Please see inline for further responses (prefixed VPB).

R= egards,
-Pavan

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Elwyn Davies &= lt;elwynd@dial.p= ipex.com> wrote:
Reviewer: Elwyn Davies
Review result: Not Ready

I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
by the IESG for the IETF Chair.=C2=A0 Please treat these comments just
like any other last call comments.

For more information, please see the FAQ at

<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenArtfaq<= /a>>.

Document: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06
Reviewer: Elwyn Davies
Review Date: 2017-09-22
IETF LC End Date: 2017-09-22
IESG Telechat date: 2017-09-28

Summary: Not ready, primarily because the title and presentation give the impression that the content is really a BCP when it isn't.=C2=A0 This c= onceals the
considerable amount of tweaking of RFC 2961 functionality and addition of n= ew
RSVP Capabilities described in the document.=C2=A0 There are also a couple = of minor
issues that need to be sorted out.

Major issues:
Title and way proposals are presented:=C2=A0 The document defines two new 'capabilities' for RSVP-TE and is indeed (as specified in the docum= ent header)
correctly intended for Standards Track status.=C2=A0 However the title and = the whole
of the meat of the document in Section 2 presents the proposals as
'recommendations' which says to me that I am expecting a BCP where = a profile of
available options from existing standards is recommended as the best choice= for
implementation and deployment.=C2=A0 In my opinion, the title would be bett= er as
something like "Additional Capabilities Designed to Improve the Scalab= ility of
RSVP-TE Deployments".=C2=A0 Whilst the proposals are based on the tech= niques in RFC
2961, the document *requires* the implementor to conform to rules that were=
optional and constrains configurable values to different ranges in order to= be
able to deliver the capabilities defined in the document as well as definin= g
new RSVP extensions modifying some of the behaviour defined in RFC 2961.=C2= =A0 Thus
although some of the rules could be met by choosing particular values withi= n
the RFC 2961 set, the use of MUST, tweaking of functionality and variation = of
ranges takes it well beyond a set of recommendations for RFC 2961 options selections.=C2=A0 In view of this Section 1 needs to be written as an intro= duction
to the definitions of the new capabilities rather than advocacy for selecti= on
of RFC 2961 options and the implication that the techniques mentioned in th= e
last paragraph of s1 are just a matter of selecting a profile of option val= ues.
=C2=A0In actuality new protocol values are introduced and ss2.2 and 2.3 def= ine novel
extensions to RSVP beyond what is available for RFC 2961 and requiring
modification to basic RFC 2961 functionality..


Minor issues:
Interaction with RFC 5063:=C2=A0 The document does not explicitly state tha= t an
implementation would need to support (at least) the extra capability obect<= br> defined in s4.2 of RFC 5063.=C2=A0 Some words about interaction with RFC 50= 63 are
probably required in that s4.2.1 of RFC 5063 rather assumes that if there i= s a
capability object, by default its S bit will be set.

Behaviour if a node stops setting Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit:=C2=A0 The = last para
of s2 in RFC 2961 discusses behaviour if a node stops setting this bit in messages.=C2=A0 What would happen with the extensions defined in this docum= ent if
this happened while either of the extensions is in use?=C2=A0 As a matter o= f
interest, if a peer offers the capabilities defined in this draft, is it possible or sensible for it to stop setting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable b= it
without stopping offering the extensions?

[VPB]=C2=A0 If a peer sets the I or F bit in the CAPABILITY object but d= oes not set the Refresh-Reduction-capable bit, then the corresponding funct= ionality ("RI-RSVP" or "Per-Peer Flow-Control") is not = activated for that peer. In other words, resetting the Refresh-Reduction-Ca= pable bit immediately makes the node incapable of supporting the two capabi= lities discussed in this document. This is covered in Sections 3.1 and 4.1 = ( -07 version).


s2.1.3, para 2: As specified, it appears that the 'slower timer' tr= ansmission
of Path and Resv messages can go on indefinitely if no ack arrives.=C2=A0 W= hat puts
an end to this repetition?=C2=A0 [It may be that I have forgotten how basic= RSVP
works, but since this is altering the behaviour it would be good to explain= how
it terminates, and whether this requires any additional modification to tim= ers.]



Nits/editorial comments:
Abstract: RSVP-TE is not a 'well-known' abbreviation: s/RSVP-TE/RSV= P Traffic
Engineering (RSVP-TE)/

Abstract and s1, first para:=C2=A0 This para is not future proof.=C2=A0 Sug= gest:
OLD:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The scale at which RSVP-TE [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSP= s) get
=C2=A0 =C2=A0deployed is growing continually and there is considerable onus= on
=C2=A0 =C2=A0RSVP-TE implementations across the board to keep up with this<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0increasing demand in scale.
NEW:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0At the time of writing, networks which utilise RSVP Traffic En= gineering
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(RSVP-TE) [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) are encounteri= ng limitations
=C2=A0 =C2=A0in the ability of implementations to support the growth in the= number of LSPs
=C2=A0 =C2=A0deployed.=C2=A0 This document defines two additional RSVP-TE e= xtensions that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0are intended to reduce the number of messages needed to mainta= in RSVP-TE
=C2=A0 =C2=A0soft state in routers and hence allow implementations to suppo= rt larger
=C2=A0 =C2=A0scale deployments.
ENDS
Note:=C2=A0 Omit reference from Abstract.



s1, para 2: s/under certain/beyond a certain/

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s1, para 3: s/makes a set of concrete implementation recommendations/define= s
two extensions/; s/- push higher/by increasing/; s/maintain LSP state./main= tain
LSP state by reducing the number of messages needed./

Abstract, para 2 and s1, last para:=C2=A0 [Omit reference from Abstract] OLD:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document advocates the use of a couple of techniques - &q= uot;Refresh-
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer F= low-Control" -
=C2=A0 =C2=A0for significantly cutting down the amount of processing cycles=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0required to maintain LSP state.
NEW:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document defines two RSVP Capabilities [RFC5063] "Re= fresh-
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer F= low-Control"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0that will cut down the number of messsages and processing cycl= es
=C2=A0 =C2=A0required to maintain LSP state.
ENDS

[VPB] Fixed in -07
=

s1, last para: Add new penultimate sentence:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Note that the "Per-Peer Flow-Control" capability req= uires the "RI-RSVP"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0capability as a prerequisite.

<= div>[VPB] Fixed in -07


s1, last para: s/RECOMMENDED/recommended/ - this isn't a recommendation= about
the protocol on the wire.
=C2=A0
[VPB] Fixed= in -07


Subdivision of s2:=C2=A0 The issues regarding the nature of the document wo= uld be
helped by altering s2 into four top level sections, thus: s2: Requirement f= or
RFC 2961 Refresh Overhead Reduction Support and Specific Option Choices (fr= om
s2.1) s3: Requirement for RFC 5063 Capability Object support (see Minor Iss= ues
above) s4: Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Capability (from s2.3) s5:
Per-Peer RSVP Flow Control Capability (from s2.4) Subsequent major sections=
then renumbered as s6 onwards. References to s2.x will need to be updated throughout.

[VPB] We subdivided s2 into= 3 top level sections. We did not add a separate section for discussing RFC= 5063 Capability Object support.


s2.1 (would be introduction of new s2):
OLD:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The implementation recommendations discussed in this section a= re
=C2=A0 =C2=A0based on the proposals made in [RFC2961] and act as prerequisi= tes for
=C2=A0 =C2=A0implementing the techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and 2.3.=

NEW:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5 of this document = are based on
=C2=A0 =C2=A0proposals made in [RFC2961].=C2=A0 Implementations of these Ca= pabilities will
=C2=A0 =C2=A0need to support the RSVP messages and techniques defined in [R= FC2961] as set
=C2=A0 =C2=A0out in Section 2.1 [was 2.1.1] with
=C2=A0 =C2=A0some minor modifications and alterations to recommended time i= ntervals and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0iteration counts as defined in the remainder of this section.<= br> ENDS


[VPB] Fixed in -07

=
s2.1.1, title and para 1 [will be s2.1]:
OLD:
2.1.1.=C2=A0 Basic Prerequisites

=C2=A0 =C2=A0An implementation that supports the techniques discussed in Se= ctions
=C2=A0 =C2=A02.2 and 2.3 must meet certain basic prerequisites.
NEW:
2.1.=C2=A0 Required Functionality from RFC 2961 to be Implemented

=C2=A0 =C2=A0An implementation that supports the capabiities discussed in S= ections
=C2=A0 =C2=A04 and 5 must provide a large subset of the functionality descr= ibed
=C2=A0 =C2=A0in [RFC2961] as follows:
ENDS

[VPB] Fixed in -07
=

s2.1.2, para 2 [will be s2.2]: s/techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and 2.3/Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5/

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s2.1.2, para 2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s2.2, para 1: s/improvement on transmission overhead/improvement of
transmission overhead/

[VPB] Fixed in -= 07


s2.2, para 1: s/proposes sufficient recommendations/sets out additional
requirements/


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thanks for our comment. Does the following editorial change address your comment:

Three different mechanisms are defined to accomplish LSP diversity in the provider or core network: the signaled diversity type, indicates whether diversity is based on client, path computation engine (PCE), or network assigned identifiers.

Please let us know.


Thanks,
Dieter and co-authors


On 29.08.2017 04:52, Ben Campbell wrote:
Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection

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>From the abstract: "Three different
mechanisms are supported how LSP diversity can be accomplished in
the provider or core network:..."

Is there a missing word around "... supported how..."?
From nobody Mon Oct 2 07:38:25 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBF7134680; Mon, 2 Oct 2017 07:38:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.879 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.879 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qyb9Ym5y_2uc; Mon, 2 Oct 2017 07:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE62113467A; Mon, 2 Oct 2017 07:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.82] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v92EcIRw030147 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Oct 2017 09:38:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.82] From: Ben Campbell Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F41287D0-1F06-472C-BAF3-A711628AE0BF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 09:38:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: The IESG , draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity@ietf.org, teas-chairs@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net, teas@ietf.org To: Dieter Beller References: <150397512291.13163.11334943635287191344.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 14:38:23 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F41287D0-1F06-472C-BAF3-A711628AE0BF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 There=E2=80=99s an unneeded comma between =E2=80=9Ctype=E2=80=9D and = =E2=80=9Cindicates=E2=80=9D. Otherwise, it looks good to me. Thanks! Ben. > On Oct 2, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Dieter Beller = wrote: >=20 > Hi Ben, >=20 > thanks for our comment. Does the following editorial change address = your comment: >=20 > Three different mechanisms are defined to accomplish LSP diversity in = the provider or core network: the signaled diversity type, indicates = whether diversity is based on client, path computation engine (PCE), or = network assigned identifiers. >=20 > Please let us know. >=20 >=20 > Thanks, > Dieter and co-authors >=20 >=20 > On 29.08.2017 04:52, Ben Campbell wrote: >> Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection >>=20 >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. 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We will move RFC4920 to the normative reference section. Dieter and co-authors On 25.08.2017 17:30, Mirja Kühlewind wrote: > Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Maybe RFC4920 should be a normative reference (due to sec 1.1)? > > From nobody Wed Oct 4 08:15:20 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D42132F8F; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 08:15:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150713011944.23895.1498124220099529967@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 08:15:19 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 15:15:19 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli Young Lee Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2017-10-04 Abstract: Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic networking. Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a single virtualized network that is under the control of a network operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns the network resources. This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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BR Daniele (for the co-authors) > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > drafts@ietf.org > Sent: mercoled=EC 4 ottobre 2017 17:15 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: teas@ietf.org > Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Sig= naling > WG of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffi= c Engineered > Networks > Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > Young Lee > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > Pages : 37 > Date : 2017-10-04 >=20 > Abstract: > Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They > also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > networking. >=20 > Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied > to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > the network resources. >=20 > This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Wed Oct 4 10:21:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2CF13422B for ; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nokia.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 04 Oct 2017 17:21:31.3326 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM5PR0701MB2548 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 17:21:37 -0000 Wouldn't it make sense to add a better explanation on what the ACTN framewo= rk as described in this document does _not_ try to provide? For instance, the document apparently doesn't cover service assurance funct= ions such as fault management. I am not sure how e.g. alarm correlation bet= ween multiple PNCs (possibly at different layers) would work in the ACTN fr= amework as described in the document. But probably fault management and mec= hanisms such as alarm correlation and root-cause analysis are not in scope = of ACTN? Also, as far as I can see, except for Appendix B there is no network topolo= gy example that shows how ACTN would indeed apply to a multi-layer network = (e.g., IP/MPLS over OTN). And IMHO the example in Appendix B is too simple = as it shows only *one* IP/MPLS PNC and *one* Optical PNC, which may not be = a realistic deployment in a larger network operators. As a result, I sugges= t to either remove Appendix B or to replace it by a more realistic topology= example with multiple PNCs (both at IP/MPLS and Optical layer) as well as = an actual explanation how ACTN would deal with multiple PNCs and multiple l= ayers, i.e., an actual example what topology would be seen by which MDSC. T= o me, the current content in Appendix B doesn't really prove that the ACTN = concepts indeed work for larger multi-layer scenarios. I'd also be fine wit= h an explicit statement that the applicability of ACTN to multi-layer netwo= rk deployments is not in scope of the document. Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 5:30 PM > To: teas@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt >=20 > Dear WG, >=20 > we submitted a new version of the ACTN framework draft which does not > introduce or modify any concept but that is the result of a heavy text re= - > adjustment (thanks a lot Adrian for the huge effort) to improve readabili= ty > and get rid of duplicated and redundant text. >=20 > The authors and contributors think this is ready for WG LC and would > appreciate your comments to the list. >=20 > BR > Daniele (for the co-authors) >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > > drafts@ietf.org > > Sent: mercoled=EC 4 ottobre 2017 17:15 > > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > > Cc: teas@ietf.org > > Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and > > Signaling WG of the IETF. > > > > Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traf= fic Engineered > > Networks > > Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > > Young Lee > > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > > Pages : 37 > > Date : 2017-10-04 > > > > Abstract: > > Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > > facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They > > also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > > configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > > represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > > networking. > > > > Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied > > to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > > single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > > operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > > the network resources. > > > > This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > > Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > > > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-0 > > 8 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.i= etf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Thu Oct 5 03:43:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45F7134234 for ; 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format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Pavan, WRT if this document updates rfc2961: I don't have a strong opinion on or objection to this document updating rfc2961. To have this document be an update, I do think we and it need to be clear on what exactly is being updated in 2961. After rereading both it's unclear to me what you see is being updated. As best I can see, this document basically relates to 2961 in that it says (a) use the reliable message delivery defined in 2961 and (b) restates that 2205 refresh processing of path and resv messages still applies after a rapid retry period expires and (c) sending acks moves from recommended to required. What did I miss? FWIW I think (a) and (c) are requirements of this document not 2961 and (b) seems like an informative statement that the basic refresh processing rules of rfc2205 still apply. Thanks Lou On October 1, 2017 9:14:15 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Elwyn, Hi! > > Please see inline for responses. > > Regards, > -Pavan > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Elwyn Davies wrote: > >> >> >> Hi, Pavan. >> >> I've checked through the changes in -07 and I think all is good as regards >> fixing the 'major issue', restucturing s2 and fixing the nits - thanks. >> > > [Pavan] Great! > > >> Looking at the IESG comments I think you have covered most of them except >> it would be good to put a pointer to Appendix A into the intro of s2. >> >> With reference to Appendix A(d), it would be helpful to s/periodic >> retransmission interval/Periodic Retransmission Interval/ and possibly give >> it a name (Rpri or some such) in s2.3 and Appendix A(d). Adding the name >> of the interval after "retransmission of these on a slower timer" migt mak >> it clearer also. >> > > [Pavan] Ok. We'll add a pointer to the Appendix and also find a short form > for the periodic retransmission interval. > >> >> However, I think you still need to address all three of the minor issues: >> - Capability object: A 'basic' implementation of RFC 2209/RFC3209 will >> not include the RFC5063 extensions. >> > > [Pavan] I think you meant RFC2205 and not RFC2209. > > I think you should therefore make it explicit that a prerequisite for your >> extensions is an implementation of the Capability object as specified in >> RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , making it clear that this does not require >> any of the other functionality of RFC 5063, especially no support for the S >> bit in the Capabilities. >> > > [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capability Object" needs a separate > prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD take a call > on this. Please note that the document also talks about using Node-ID > hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then need a separate > prerequisite section? We added a separate section for RFC2961 because there > is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of certain 2961 procedures. With > "Capability Object" and "Node Hellos", there isn't anything (IMHO) that > needs to be explicitly clarified. We could just add a statement in Section > 4.1 saying that you don't need to set any other flags. Would that address > your concern about the ambiguity regarding the "Graceful Restart" bits? > > OLD > > An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new > flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello > messages. > > NEW > > An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new > flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello > messages. This MAY be the only flag set in the object. > > - Your response regarding what happens if a peer initially acknowledges >> that it supports the new capabilities by setting the I/F bits in the >> Capability and sends some messages with the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit >> set, but then stops setting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't >> really address the problem. Would this mean that the receiver should >> assume that the peer can no longer support the extensions? >> > > [Pavan] Yes. > > Is this a permanent state or could the peer start setting the >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and restore initial functionality - or >> should this just not be allowed. >> > > [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionality. > > I think you need to think through what happes in the various possible cases >> and explain what an implementation should do in each case. >> > > [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality enabled on > the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the implementation > does everything that is specified as required for the given technique. If > it is not enabled, then the implementation doesn't employ the technique and > just behaves like it does today. We'll try and add some text to make this > obvious. > > >> - So, I have done my homework and checked back on what happens when there >> is no acknowledgement of refreshes. The relevant parameter is the cleanup >> time. However, this leaves us with a problem.. the cleanup time is >> typically set as a multiple of the refresh interval (9 times seems to be >> the default) - indeed I see that the interface configuration on a Juniper >> router (!) actually sets it by asking for the multiple rather than an >> absolute value. Wth the new dispensation in ths document, there are two >> time periods involved: I think you do need to respecify how to calculate a >> sensible cleanup interval, and note that the retransmissions will then halt >> after this interval. >> > > [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer (which > comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP instance and don't > get a RESV back). Please go through > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01 for a > detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it and > recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3) that comes > into play when there is no ACK is different from what you are alluding to > -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not just PATH). This is very > specific to the exponential back-off procedure discussed in Section 6 of > RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid retransmissions stop after we reach a > certain retry limit. In Section 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be > done after this Retry limit is reached --- the recommendation is to fall > back on a not so rapid retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous > email, this needs to be done until either an ACK is received or the > corresponding state is torn down. > > >> Does this last modification constitute an update of RFC 2209? I am not >> sure -consult your AD! >> > > [Pavan] RFC2209 is an informational document that provides guidance on the > various data-models and procedures needed for an implementation to be > RFC2205 compliant. Most of the content in RFC2209 is outdated (imho). No > one has had the inclination over the years to update this and we don't > intend to do this either. > > [Pavan] Reading through the various questions/comments from the IESG, I'm > convinced that this document needs to formally update RFC2961. We'll go > ahead and do that if the shepherd and our AD have no objections. > > >> >> Regards, >> Elwyn >> >> Sent from Samsung tablet. >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram >> Date: 28/09/2017 03:48 (GMT+00:00) >> To: Elwyn Davies >> Cc: gen-art@ietf.org, draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org, >> ietf , teas@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of >> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 >> >> >> Elwyn, Hi! >> >> Thanks for the detailed review and the text suggestions. We just posted a >> new revision (-07) to address the concerns listed below. Please go through >> the new diffs (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te- >> scaling-rec-07) and let us know if additional changes are required. >> >> Please see inline for further responses (prefixed VPB). >> >> Regards, >> -Pavan >> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Elwyn Davies >> wrote: >> >>> Reviewer: Elwyn Davies >>> Review result: Not Ready >>> >>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area >>> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed >>> by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just >>> like any other last call comments. >>> >>> For more information, please see the FAQ at >>> >>> . >>> >>> Document: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 >>> Reviewer: Elwyn Davies >>> Review Date: 2017-09-22 >>> IETF LC End Date: 2017-09-22 >>> IESG Telechat date: 2017-09-28 >>> >>> Summary: Not ready, primarily because the title and presentation give the >>> impression that the content is really a BCP when it isn't. This conceals >>> the >>> considerable amount of tweaking of RFC 2961 functionality and addition of >>> new >>> RSVP Capabilities described in the document. There are also a couple of >>> minor >>> issues that need to be sorted out. >>> >>> Major issues: >>> Title and way proposals are presented: The document defines two new >>> 'capabilities' for RSVP-TE and is indeed (as specified in the document >>> header) >>> correctly intended for Standards Track status. However the title and the >>> whole >>> of the meat of the document in Section 2 presents the proposals as >>> 'recommendations' which says to me that I am expecting a BCP where a >>> profile of >>> available options from existing standards is recommended as the best >>> choice for >>> implementation and deployment. In my opinion, the title would be better >>> as >>> something like "Additional Capabilities Designed to Improve the >>> Scalability of >>> RSVP-TE Deployments". Whilst the proposals are based on the techniques >>> in RFC >>> 2961, the document *requires* the implementor to conform to rules that >>> were >>> optional and constrains configurable values to different ranges in order >>> to be >>> able to deliver the capabilities defined in the document as well as >>> defining >>> new RSVP extensions modifying some of the behaviour defined in RFC 2961. >>> Thus >>> although some of the rules could be met by choosing particular values >>> within >>> the RFC 2961 set, the use of MUST, tweaking of functionality and >>> variation of >>> ranges takes it well beyond a set of recommendations for RFC 2961 options >>> selections. In view of this Section 1 needs to be written as an >>> introduction >>> to the definitions of the new capabilities rather than advocacy for >>> selection >>> of RFC 2961 options and the implication that the techniques mentioned in >>> the >>> last paragraph of s1 are just a matter of selecting a profile of option >>> values. >>> In actuality new protocol values are introduced and ss2.2 and 2.3 define >>> novel >>> extensions to RSVP beyond what is available for RFC 2961 and requiring >>> modification to basic RFC 2961 functionality.. >>> >>> >> [VPB] We changed the title to "Techniques to Improve the Scalability of >> RSVP-TE Deployments". We also tweaked the text in the introduction section >> as suggested. Please see if the new set of diffs address the comment above. >> >> Minor issues: >>> Interaction with RFC 5063: The document does not explicitly state that an >>> implementation would need to support (at least) the extra capability obect >>> defined in s4.2 of RFC 5063. Some words about interaction with RFC 5063 >>> are >>> probably required in that s4.2.1 of RFC 5063 rather assumes that if there >>> is a >>> capability object, by default its S bit will be set. >>> >> >> [VPB] The CAPABILITY object in RFC5063 is meant for generic use and can be >> used even when there are no Graceful Restart extensions in play (even when >> no GR flags are set). As far as we can tell, there is nothing in RFC5063 >> that precludes this. We added a reference to RFC5063 when the new >> Capability flags are introduced. Would this be sufficient to address this >> concern? >> >> >>> >>> Behaviour if a node stops setting Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit: The >>> last para >>> of s2 in RFC 2961 discusses behaviour if a node stops setting this bit in >>> messages. What would happen with the extensions defined in this document >>> if >>> this happened while either of the extensions is in use? As a matter of >>> interest, if a peer offers the capabilities defined in this draft, is it >>> possible or sensible for it to stop setting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable >>> bit >>> without stopping offering the extensions? >>> >> >> [VPB] If a peer sets the I or F bit in the CAPABILITY object but does not >> set the Refresh-Reduction-capable bit, then the corresponding functionality >> ("RI-RSVP" or "Per-Peer Flow-Control") is not activated for that peer. In >> other words, resetting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit immediately makes >> the node incapable of supporting the two capabilities discussed in this >> document. This is covered in Sections 3.1 and 4.1 ( -07 version). >> >> >>> s2.1.3, para 2: As specified, it appears that the 'slower timer' >>> transmission >>> of Path and Resv messages can go on indefinitely if no ack arrives. What >>> puts >>> an end to this repetition? [It may be that I have forgotten how basic >>> RSVP >>> works, but since this is altering the behaviour it would be good to >>> explain how >>> it terminates, and whether this requires any additional modification to >>> timers.] >>> >> >> [VPB] There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting >> transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling behavior) -- >> all that this section does is discuss how these transmissions are paced in >> the absence of an ack. The slower timer transmission will go on until >> either an ack is received (at which point the regular "refresh interval" >> comes into play) or the corresponding LSP instance state is torn down. >> >> >>> Nits/editorial comments: >>> Abstract: RSVP-TE is not a 'well-known' abbreviation: s/RSVP-TE/RSVP >>> Traffic >>> Engineering (RSVP-TE)/ >>> >> >>> Abstract and s1, first para: This para is not future proof. Suggest: >>> OLD: >>> The scale at which RSVP-TE [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) get >>> deployed is growing continually and there is considerable onus on >>> RSVP-TE implementations across the board to keep up with this >>> increasing demand in scale. >>> NEW: >>> At the time of writing, networks which utilise RSVP Traffic Engineering >>> (RSVP-TE) [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) are encountering >>> limitations >>> in the ability of implementations to support the growth in the number >>> of LSPs >>> deployed. This document defines two additional RSVP-TE extensions that >>> are intended to reduce the number of messages needed to maintain >>> RSVP-TE >>> soft state in routers and hence allow implementations to support larger >>> scale deployments. >>> ENDS >>> Note: Omit reference from Abstract. >>> >>> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> s1, para 2: s/under certain/beyond a certain/ >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> s1, para 3: s/makes a set of concrete implementation >>> recommendations/defines >>> two extensions/; s/- push higher/by increasing/; s/maintain LSP >>> state./maintain >>> LSP state by reducing the number of messages needed./ >>> >>> Abstract, para 2 and s1, last para: [Omit reference from Abstract] >>> OLD: >>> This document advocates the use of a couple of techniques - "Refresh- >>> Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer Flow-Control" - >>> for significantly cutting down the amount of processing cycles >>> required to maintain LSP state. >>> NEW: >>> This document defines two RSVP Capabilities [RFC5063] "Refresh- >>> Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer Flow-Control" >>> that will cut down the number of messsages and processing cycles >>> required to maintain LSP state. >>> ENDS >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> s1, last para: Add new penultimate sentence: >>> Note that the "Per-Peer Flow-Control" capability requires the "RI-RSVP" >>> capability as a prerequisite. >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> s1, last para: s/RECOMMENDED/recommended/ - this isn't a recommendation >>> about >>> the protocol on the wire. >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> Subdivision of s2: The issues regarding the nature of the document would >>> be >>> helped by altering s2 into four top level sections, thus: s2: Requirement >>> for >>> RFC 2961 Refresh Overhead Reduction Support and Specific Option Choices >>> (from >>> s2.1) s3: Requirement for RFC 5063 Capability Object support (see Minor >>> Issues >>> above) s4: Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Capability (from s2.3) s5: >>> Per-Peer RSVP Flow Control Capability (from s2.4) Subsequent major >>> sections >>> then renumbered as s6 onwards. References to s2.x will need to be updated >>> throughout. >>> >> >> [VPB] We subdivided s2 into 3 top level sections. We did not add a >> separate section for discussing RFC5063 Capability Object support. >> >> >>> s2.1 (would be introduction of new s2): >>> OLD: >>> The implementation recommendations discussed in this section are >>> based on the proposals made in [RFC2961] and act as prerequisites for >>> implementing the techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and 2.3. >>> >>> NEW: >>> The Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5 of this document are >>> based on >>> proposals made in [RFC2961]. Implementations of these Capabilities >>> will >>> need to support the RSVP messages and techniques defined in [RFC2961] >>> as set >>> out in Section 2.1 [was 2.1.1] with >>> some minor modifications and alterations to recommended time intervals >>> and >>> iteration counts as defined in the remainder of this section. >>> ENDS >>> >>> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> s2.1.1, title and para 1 [will be s2.1]: >>> OLD: >>> 2.1.1. Basic Prerequisites >>> >>> An implementation that supports the techniques discussed in Sections >>> 2.2 and 2.3 must meet certain basic prerequisites. >>> NEW: >>> 2.1. Required Functionality from RFC 2961 to be Implemented >>> >>> An implementation that supports the capabiities discussed in Sections >>> 4 and 5 must provide a large subset of the functionality described >>> in [RFC2961] as follows: >>> ENDS >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> s2.1.2, para 2 [will be s2.2]: s/techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and >>> 2.3/Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5/ >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> s2.1.2, para 2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/ >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> s2.2, para 1: s/improvement on transmission overhead/improvement of >>> transmission overhead/ >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> s2.2, para 1: s/proposes sufficient recommendations/sets out additional >>> requirements/ >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> s2.2, last bullet: Add a reference to the proposed new Section 3 that >>> discusses >>> the Capability object. >>> >> >> [VPB] Added a direct reference to RFC5063 >> >> >>> s2.2.1, last para: s/set Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in common >>> header/set the >>> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in the common header/ >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> s2.3, para 1: s/set of recommendations/functionality/; >>> s/provide/provides/; >>> s/RSVP-TE control plane congestion/a significant portion of the RSVP-TE >>> control >>> message load/ >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> s2.3.2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/ >>> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Teas mailing list >>> Teas@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>> >> >> ------------15eec201916f7827d317ad75e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Pavan,

WRT if this document updates rfc2961:

I don't have a strong opinion on or objection to this document updating rfc2961.  To have this document be an update, I do think we and it need to be clear on what exactly is being updated in 2961. After rereading both it's unclear to me what you see is being updated. As best I can see, this document basically relates to 2961 in that it says (a) use the reliable message delivery defined in 2961 and (b) restates that 2205 refresh processing of path and resv messages still applies after a rapid retry period expires and (c) sending acks moves from recommended to required. 

What did I miss?

FWIW I think (a) and (c) are requirements of this document not 2961 and (b) seems like an informative statement that the basic refresh processing rules of rfc2205 still apply.

Thanks
Lou

On October 1, 2017 9:14:15 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:

Elwyn, Hi!

Please see inline for responses.

Regards,
-Pavan

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com> wrote:


Hi, Pavan.

I've checked through the changes in -07 and I think all is good as regards fixing the 'major issue', restucturing s2 and fixing the nits - thanks.

[Pavan] Great!


Looking at the IESG comments I think you have covered most of them  except it would be good to put a pointer to Appendix A into the intro of s2. 

With reference to Appendix A(d), it would be helpful to s/periodic retransmission interval/Periodic Retransmission Interval/ and possibly give it a name (Rpri or some such)  in s2.3 and Appendix A(d).  Adding the name of the interval after "retransmission of these on a slower timer" migt mak it clearer also.

[Pavan] Ok. We'll add a pointer to the Appendix and also find a short form for the periodic retransmission interval.

However,  I think you still need to address all three of the minor issues:
- Capability object:  A 'basic' implementation of RFC 2209/RFC3209 will not include the RFC5063 extensions. 

[Pavan] I think you meant RFC2205 and not RFC2209.

I think you should therefore make it explicit that a prerequisite for your extensions is an implementation of the Capability object as specified in RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , making it clear that this does not require any of the other functionality of RFC 5063, especially no support for the S bit in the Capabilities.

[Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capability Object" needs a separate prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD take a call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate section for RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and "Node Hellos", there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarified. We could just add a statement in Section 4.1 saying that you don't need to set any other flags. Would that address your concern about the ambiguity regarding the "Graceful Restart" bits?

OLD
   An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique
MUST set a new
   flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello
   messages.
NEW
 
 An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new
   flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello
   messages. This MAY be the only flag set in the object.

-  Your response regarding what happens if a peer initially acknowledges that it supports the new capabilities by setting the I/F bits in the Capability and sends some messages with the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit set, but then stops setting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't really address the problem.   Would this mean that the receiver should assume that the peer can no longer support the extensions? 

[Pavan] Yes.

Is this a permanent state or could the peer start setting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and restore initial functionality - or should this just not be allowed.

[Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionality.

I think you need to think through what happes in the various possible cases and explain what an implementation should do in each case.

[Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the implementation does everything that is specified as required for the given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation doesn't employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'll try and add some text to make this obvious.
 
- So, I have done my homework and checked back on what happens when there is no acknowledgement of refreshes. The relevant parameter is the cleanup time.  However, this leaves us with a problem.. the cleanup time is typically set as a multiple of the refresh interval (9 times seems to be the default) - indeed I see that the interface configuration on a Juniper router (!) actually sets it by asking for the multiple rather than an absolute value.  Wth the new dispensation in ths document, there are two time periods involved:  I think you do need to respecify how to calculate a sensible cleanup interval, and note that the retransmissions will then halt after this interval.

[Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01 for a detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3) that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from what you are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not just PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In Section 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry limit is reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this needs to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding state is torn down.


Does this last modification constitute an update of RFC 2209?  I am not sure -consult your AD!

[Pavan] RFC2209 is an informational document that provides guidance on the various data-models and procedures needed for an implementation to be RFC2205 compliant. Most of the content in RFC2209 is outdated (imho). No one has had the inclination over the years to update this and we don't intend to do this either.

[Pavan] Reading through the various questions/comments from the IESG, I'm convinced that this document needs to formally update RFC2961. We'll go ahead and do that if the shepherd and our AD have no objections.
 

Regards,
Elwyn 

Sent from Samsung tablet.

-------- Original message --------
From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Date: 28/09/2017 03:48 (GMT+00:00)
To: Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06

Elwyn, Hi!

Thanks for the detailed review and the text suggestions. We just posted a new revision (-07) to address the concerns listed below. Please go through the new diffs (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-07) and let us know if additional changes are required.

Please see inline for further responses (prefixed VPB).

Regards,
-Pavan

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
Reviewer: Elwyn Davies
Review result: Not Ready

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Document: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06
Reviewer: Elwyn Davies
Review Date: 2017-09-22
IETF LC End Date: 2017-09-22
IESG Telechat date: 2017-09-28

Summary: Not ready, primarily because the title and presentation give the
impression that the content is really a BCP when it isn't.  This conceals the
considerable amount of tweaking of RFC 2961 functionality and addition of new
RSVP Capabilities described in the document.  There are also a couple of minor
issues that need to be sorted out.

Major issues:
Title and way proposals are presented:  The document defines two new
'capabilities' for RSVP-TE and is indeed (as specified in the document header)
correctly intended for Standards Track status.  However the title and the whole
of the meat of the document in Section 2 presents the proposals as
'recommendations' which says to me that I am expecting a BCP where a profile of
available options from existing standards is recommended as the best choice for
implementation and deployment.  In my opinion, the title would be better as
something like "Additional Capabilities Designed to Improve the Scalability of
RSVP-TE Deployments".  Whilst the proposals are based on the techniques in RFC
2961, the document *requires* the implementor to conform to rules that were
optional and constrains configurable values to different ranges in order to be
able to deliver the capabilities defined in the document as well as defining
new RSVP extensions modifying some of the behaviour defined in RFC 2961.  Thus
although some of the rules could be met by choosing particular values within
the RFC 2961 set, the use of MUST, tweaking of functionality and variation of
ranges takes it well beyond a set of recommendations for RFC 2961 options
selections.  In view of this Section 1 needs to be written as an introduction
to the definitions of the new capabilities rather than advocacy for selection
of RFC 2961 options and the implication that the techniques mentioned in the
last paragraph of s1 are just a matter of selecting a profile of option values.
 In actuality new protocol values are introduced and ss2.2 and 2.3 define novel
extensions to RSVP beyond what is available for RFC 2961 and requiring
modification to basic RFC 2961 functionality..


[VPB] We changed the title to "Techniques to Improve the Scalability of RSVP-TE Deployments". We also tweaked the text in the introduction section as suggested. Please see if the new set of diffs address the comment above.

Minor issues:
Interaction with RFC 5063:  The document does not explicitly state that an
implementation would need to support (at least) the extra capability obect
defined in s4.2 of RFC 5063.  Some words about interaction with RFC 5063 are
probably required in that s4.2.1 of RFC 5063 rather assumes that if there is a
capability object, by default its S bit will be set.

[VPB] The CAPABILITY object in RFC5063 is meant for generic use and can be used even when there are no Graceful Restart extensions in play (even when no GR flags are set). As far as we can tell, there is nothing in RFC5063 that precludes this. We added a reference to RFC5063 when the new Capability flags are introduced. Would this be sufficient to address this concern?
 

Behaviour if a node stops setting Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit:  The last para
of s2 in RFC 2961 discusses behaviour if a node stops setting this bit in
messages.  What would happen with the extensions defined in this document if
this happened while either of the extensions is in use?  As a matter of
interest, if a peer offers the capabilities defined in this draft, is it
possible or sensible for it to stop setting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit
without stopping offering the extensions?

[VPB]  If a peer sets the I or F bit in the CAPABILITY object but does not set the Refresh-Reduction-capable bit, then the corresponding functionality ("RI-RSVP" or "Per-Peer Flow-Control") is not activated for that peer. In other words, resetting the Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit immediately makes the node incapable of supporting the two capabilities discussed in this document. This is covered in Sections 3.1 and 4.1 ( -07 version).


s2.1.3, para 2: As specified, it appears that the 'slower timer' transmission
of Path and Resv messages can go on indefinitely if no ack arrives.  What puts
an end to this repetition?  [It may be that I have forgotten how basic RSVP
works, but since this is altering the behaviour it would be good to explain how
it terminates, and whether this requires any additional modification to timers.]

[VPB]  There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling behavior) -- all that this section does is discuss how these transmissions are paced in the absence of an ack. The slower timer transmission will go on until either an ack is received (at which point the regular "refresh interval" comes into play) or the corresponding LSP instance state is torn down.


Nits/editorial comments:
Abstract: RSVP-TE is not a 'well-known' abbreviation: s/RSVP-TE/RSVP Traffic
Engineering (RSVP-TE)/

Abstract and s1, first para:  This para is not future proof.  Suggest:
OLD:
   The scale at which RSVP-TE [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) get
   deployed is growing continually and there is considerable onus on
   RSVP-TE implementations across the board to keep up with this
   increasing demand in scale.
NEW:
   At the time of writing, networks which utilise RSVP Traffic Engineering
   (RSVP-TE) [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) are encountering limitations
   in the ability of implementations to support the growth in the number of LSPs
   deployed.  This document defines two additional RSVP-TE extensions that
   are intended to reduce the number of messages needed to maintain RSVP-TE
   soft state in routers and hence allow implementations to support larger
   scale deployments.
ENDS
Note:  Omit reference from Abstract.


[VPB] Fixed in -07

s1, para 2: s/under certain/beyond a certain/

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s1, para 3: s/makes a set of concrete implementation recommendations/defines
two extensions/; s/- push higher/by increasing/; s/maintain LSP state./maintain
LSP state by reducing the number of messages needed./

Abstract, para 2 and s1, last para:  [Omit reference from Abstract]
OLD:
   This document advocates the use of a couple of techniques - "Refresh-
   Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer Flow-Control" -
   for significantly cutting down the amount of processing cycles
   required to maintain LSP state.
NEW:
   This document defines two RSVP Capabilities [RFC5063] "Refresh-
   Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer Flow-Control"
   that will cut down the number of messsages and processing cycles
   required to maintain LSP state.
ENDS

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s1, last para: Add new penultimate sentence:
   Note that the "Per-Peer Flow-Control" capability requires the "RI-RSVP"
   capability as a prerequisite.

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s1, last para: s/RECOMMENDED/recommended/ - this isn't a recommendation about
the protocol on the wire.
 
[VPB] Fixed in -07


Subdivision of s2:  The issues regarding the nature of the document would be
helped by altering s2 into four top level sections, thus: s2: Requirement for
RFC 2961 Refresh Overhead Reduction Support and Specific Option Choices (from
s2.1) s3: Requirement for RFC 5063 Capability Object support (see Minor Issues
above) s4: Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Capability (from s2.3) s5:
Per-Peer RSVP Flow Control Capability (from s2.4) Subsequent major sections
then renumbered as s6 onwards. References to s2.x will need to be updated
throughout.

[VPB] We subdivided s2 into 3 top level sections. We did not add a separate section for discussing RFC5063 Capability Object support.


s2.1 (would be introduction of new s2):
OLD:
   The implementation recommendations discussed in this section are
   based on the proposals made in [RFC2961] and act as prerequisites for
   implementing the techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and 2.3.

NEW:
   The Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5 of this document are based on
   proposals made in [RFC2961].  Implementations of these Capabilities will
   need to support the RSVP messages and techniques defined in [RFC2961] as set
   out in Section 2.1 [was 2.1.1] with
   some minor modifications and alterations to recommended time intervals and
   iteration counts as defined in the remainder of this section.
ENDS


[VPB] Fixed in -07

s2.1.1, title and para 1 [will be s2.1]:
OLD:
2.1.1.  Basic Prerequisites

   An implementation that supports the techniques discussed in Sections
   2.2 and 2.3 must meet certain basic prerequisites.
NEW:
2.1.  Required Functionality from RFC 2961 to be Implemented

   An implementation that supports the capabiities discussed in Sections
   4 and 5 must provide a large subset of the functionality described
   in [RFC2961] as follows:
ENDS

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s2.1.2, para 2 [will be s2.2]: s/techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and
2.3/Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5/

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s2.1.2, para 2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s2.2, para 1: s/improvement on transmission overhead/improvement of
transmission overhead/

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s2.2, para 1: s/proposes sufficient recommendations/sets out additional
requirements/

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s2.2, last bullet: Add a reference to the proposed new Section 3 that discusses
the Capability object.
 
[VPB] Added a direct reference to RFC5063


s2.2.1, last para: s/set Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in common header/set the
Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in the common header/

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s2.3, para 1: s/set of recommendations/functionality/; s/provide/provides/;
s/RSVP-TE control plane congestion/a significant portion of the RSVP-TE control
message load/

[VPB] Fixed in -07


s2.3.2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/

[VPB] Fixed in -07



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11:56:39.2221 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM5PR0701MB1827 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 11:56:48 -0000 Hi Spencer,

thanks for your review comment. We propose the following change to address your comment (blue text added):

      0x04 = Penultimate node exception

Indicates that the penultimate node of the LSP being signaled MAY be shared with the excluded path even when this violates the exclusion flags.

The penultimate node exception flag is typically set when the destination node is single homed (e.g. EN1 or EN4 in Figure 1). In such a case, LSP diversity can only be accomplished inside the core network up to the egress node and the penultimate hop must be the same for the LSPs.



Please let us know if this adequately addresses your comment.


Thanks,
Dieter and co-authors


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I’m looking at this text,

           0x04 = Penultimate node exception

               Indicates that the penultimate node of the LSP being
               signaled MAY be shared with the excluded path even when
               this violates the exclusion flags.

and wondering whether you could either provide some recommendation about doing
this/not doing this, or give an example of why doing this/not doing this makes
operational sense. The other exceptions do make sense to me, so I’m only
curious about this one.

From nobody Thu Oct 5 04:57:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A991342DD for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 04:57:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); domainkeys=pass (1024-bit key) header.from=ietf@kuehlewind.net header.d=kuehlewind.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IxgXGE-bivx3 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 04:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kuehlewind.net (kuehlewind.net [83.169.45.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B2B613454B for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 04:57:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kuehlewind.net; b=ouXc8GUlQhlfR1IEQnjM8lWrSCgkh4U0jntKEhK53MnQQpI72Amj+ksN7PFGRhhRtwQ3x+vd9GSGkaThwd55p4QmIV5DOT3TqSDsPOieX8lTozeUL6MwvPyFKR6LofIUXFVRq88GCTQEYSlKftzrgV/NcLbNcwDWxNXwN5dPZS0=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-PPP-Message-ID:X-PPP-Vhost; Received: (qmail 17559 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2017 13:57:42 +0200 Received: from pd9e119f3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO ?192.168.178.33?) (217.225.25.243) by kuehlewind.net with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 5 Oct 2017 13:57:42 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 13:57:41 +0200 Cc: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec@ietf.org, TEAS WG Chairs , The IESG , "teas@ietf.org" , Lou Berger Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <150644890311.20830.6212136664552694640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-PPP-Message-ID: <20171005115742.17550.34578@lvps83-169-45-111.dedicated.hosteurope.de> X-PPP-Vhost: kuehlewind.net Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_Discuss_on_draft-ietf-?= =?utf-8?q?teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06=3A_=28with_DISCUSS_and_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 11:57:48 -0000 Hi Pavan, I don=E2=80=99t see any changes in the new version that addresses may = actual discuss on section 2.1.3 (now section 2.3). Can you please = clarify? Thanks, Mirja > Am 28.09.2017 um 05:45 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram = : >=20 > Mirja, Hi! >=20 > Thanks for the review. We just posted a new revision (-07) to address = the Gen-Art review comments. Please go through the new diffs = (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-0= 7) and let us know if additional changes are required.=20 >=20 > Also, please go through the responses provided to the other review = comments and let us know if there are still any unanswered questions. >=20 > Regards, > -Pavan >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind = wrote: > Mirja K=C3=BChlewind has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06: Discuss >=20 > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut = this > introductory paragraph, however.) >=20 >=20 > Please refer to = https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >=20 >=20 > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCUSS: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > I'm uncertain what section 2.1.3. actually recommends. My = understanding is that > it is recommend to still send retransmit some message even if the Rl = was > reached and to that every 30s basically forever. First of all I think = this > still needs a termination criteria when to stop to try to retransmit = finally. > And the I don't understand why this is needed, instead of e.g. just = using a > larger Rl value? Can you please clarify! >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > I fully agree with the gan-art review (Thanks Elwyn!) and Alvaro, that = this > reads from time to time like a BCP but is actually a extension = specification. I > would strongly recommend to apply the changes proposed by the gen-art = review, > and there is also a very detailed list of nits/edits that should = probably be > applied. Please have a look at that! >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >=20 From nobody Thu Oct 5 13:27:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE6213304A; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 13:27:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B80aZ71vsHBG; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 13:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x22f.google.com (mail-it0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56F3213239C; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 13:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id y138so2925950itc.5; Thu, 05 Oct 2017 13:27:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+IoQUZhYDxrsrKHeG0yxgeG2rvskxf+B9lEmMjHorpw=; b=AYLN2HZUuhgDN/bjusxNaoKATn9wR/iU8mhZ8VMuZVWf1KZ/1UalYOAqnNXvWKp8HN 1I/PIm1VGTJ9zC6PBGVMr6gnyR9MyH6dqu0OpMdheW7iPJjHHs2SP83JgpauHpWHLXPr YYUovH6QENoFoJ8o1XlT6cC04SUO+tuCX+NyhbmtRM8544jJqNUT14iSYe6Ovti6jfRa 5gkRj3u44kCemzINmZFyI8YU8ts+lx1OszTuk6257whGOwjea0dXTMBcfdoEtEycoH5C QTFgFQZwrwvzkdStp3gvD5Hl8FfAvqW7ZLZSZmLNbgduuXSROYVIcGs+sJXY1lrfRLlt 9JHQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+IoQUZhYDxrsrKHeG0yxgeG2rvskxf+B9lEmMjHorpw=; b=H/rJ/+5LKrfSwA8X9WNGod9ChXlt3wp9JCoLiFqC/O0ysflJZBMWJWGYMgzTQn0LUQ 62X9oRECI174BoRVqbPEjg3TfYHd+0t6RFJFhGG4RYfhLhZ4BQ42k0sDOWHZ4hnqA+Si BsJjpEN+4C/dkeeosJAFA67pgCJTiHjs/uYFD49xyH0O4F0fB9QP4P+I97JgQnQIgstG K5B1cNsWA7xWVrMDtSXqZA+ztWx2WcFve/9vakObTPTZC4ggKiv+cS4Qs0R7Dt+MjW+P z8XMJJPx2hKbCJK3GeTKq5eJ12CkjXKL8VxVkk3aVo40RjyOWlADxc5+2GZEbYk8lJTh cIXA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWaxqbh4C6UenQrAomGE54wKZyeweNC8BKoFq+QmagjBM0kf3UD bO+a+E9VT+T5hiIseUr+XyfJpo+IF4Jw4pBeUu46Jg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QB2aG/giLyfhJ2NFaGTa7RE1GHibmfH0ftzt+GIMAPDCzH9ezQ5uqfRB59WMk4za0Nyk1jFq23n/HwgJ8hP3w4= X-Received: by 10.36.112.17 with SMTP id f17mr506296itc.84.1507235242311; Thu, 05 Oct 2017 13:27:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.15.140 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 13:27:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <150644890311.20830.6212136664552694640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 16:27:21 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" Cc: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec@ietf.org, TEAS WG Chairs , The IESG , "teas@ietf.org" , Lou Berger Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1144151036069c055ad28dbd" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_Discuss_on_draft-ietf-?= =?utf-8?q?teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06=3A_=28with_DISCUSS_and_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 20:27:26 -0000 --001a1144151036069c055ad28dbd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mirja, Hi! This was discussed in my response to Elwyn. I apologize for not responding directly. RFC2961 doesn't discuss what to do with the retransmissions after the retry limit is reached. It doesn't discuss how retransmissions need to be paced after the rapid retries are stopped. Section 2.3 (ver 7) of the current draft clarifies this and proposes the use of a "not so rapid (30secs)" retransmission interval. There were a couple of questions from this section that you wanted to get discussed: ---- (1) Why is there no termination criteria specified? There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling behavior). All that is being discussed in this section is how these transmissions get paced after the rapid retry limit is reached. The slower timer transmission will go on until either an ack is received (at which point the regular "refresh interval" comes into play) or the corresponding LSP instance state is torn down. ---- (2) Why couldn't the regular refresh interval be used for these un-acked retransmissions? The primary goal of the retransmission is to eke out an acknowledgement from the neighbor as quickly as you can. You can use the same value as the the regular refresh interval provided it is small enough (like in the case of the conventional refresh interval of 30 secs) . However, we are recommending the use of a "large refresh interval" (20 mins) in the RI-RSVP technique -- we can't wait that long for retrying the transmission of an unacked message. Consider a rudimentary state machine with the following states (assuming the defaults suggested in the Appendix of the draft): - first retransmit (exponential back off) - second retransmit (exponential back off) ... - seventh retransmit (exponential back off) - 30s retransmission - 20m refresh (regular refresh timer) At any point when the Ack is received, you transition to the 20m refresh state. --- Do these two responses adequately answer your questions? Regards, -Pavan On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) wrote: > Hi Pavan, > > I don=E2=80=99t see any changes in the new version that addresses may act= ual > discuss on section 2.1.3 (now section 2.3). Can you please clarify? > > Thanks, > Mirja > > > > Am 28.09.2017 um 05:45 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram < > vishnupavan@gmail.com>: > > > > Mirja, Hi! > > > > Thanks for the review. We just posted a new revision (-07) to address > the Gen-Art review comments. Please go through the new diffs ( > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-0= 7) > and let us know if additional changes are required. > > > > Also, please go through the responses provided to the other review > comments and let us know if there are still any unanswered questions. > > > > Regards, > > -Pavan > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind > wrote: > > Mirja K=C3=BChlewind has entered the following ballot position for > > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06: Discuss > > > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria. > html > > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec/ > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > DISCUSS: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I'm uncertain what section 2.1.3. actually recommends. My understanding > is that > > it is recommend to still send retransmit some message even if the Rl wa= s > > reached and to that every 30s basically forever. First of all I think > this > > still needs a termination criteria when to stop to try to retransmit > finally. > > And the I don't understand why this is needed, instead of e.g. just > using a > > larger Rl value? Can you please clarify! > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > COMMENT: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I fully agree with the gan-art review (Thanks Elwyn!) and Alvaro, that > this > > reads from time to time like a BCP but is actually a extension > specification. I > > would strongly recommend to apply the changes proposed by the gen-art > review, > > and there is also a very detailed list of nits/edits that should > probably be > > applied. Please have a look at that! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > --001a1144151036069c055ad28dbd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mirja, Hi!

This was discussed = in my response to Elwyn. I apologize for not responding directly.
=

RFC2961 doesn't discuss what to do with the retrans= missions after the retry limit is reached. It doesn't discuss how retra= nsmissions need to be paced after the rapid retries are stopped. Section 2.= 3 (ver 7) of the current draft clarifies this and proposes the use of a &qu= ot;not so rapid (30secs)" retransmission interval.

There were a couple of questions from this section that you wanted to= get discussed:
----
(1) Why is there no termination= criteria specified?
There is nothing new about Path and Resv mes= sages getting transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling= behavior). All that is being discussed in this section is how these transm= issions get paced after the rapid retry limit is reached. The slower timer = transmission will go on until either an ack is received (at which point the= regular "refresh interval" comes into play) or the corresponding= LSP instance state is torn down.

----
(2) Why couldn't the regular refresh interval be used for these un-a= cked retransmissions?
The primary goal of the retran= smission is to eke out an acknowledgement from the neighbor as quickly as y= ou can. You can use the same value as the the regular refresh interval prov= ided it is small enough (like in the case of the conventional refresh inter= val of 30 secs) . However, we are recommending the use of a "large ref= resh interval" (20 mins) in the RI-RSVP technique -- we can't wait= that long for retrying the transmission of an unacked message.
<= div>
Consider a rudimentary state machine with the following = states (assuming the defaults suggested in the Appendix of the draft):
-= first retransmit (exponential back off)
- second retransmit (exponentia= l back off)
...
- seventh retransmit (exponential back off)
- 30s retransmission
- 20m refresh (regular refresh timer)
=

At any point when the Ack is received, you transition to the= 20m refresh state.

---

<= div>Do these two responses adequately answer your questions?

=
Regards,
-Pavan

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:57= AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:<= br>
Hi Pavan,

I don=E2=80=99t see any changes in the new version that addresses may actua= l discuss on section 2.1.3 (now section 2.3). Can you please clarify?

Thanks,
Mirja


> Am 28.09.2017 um 05:45 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>:
>
> Mirja, Hi!
>
> Thanks for the review. We just posted a new revision (-07) to address = the Gen-Art review comments. Please go through the new diffs (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2= =3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-07) and let us know if addi= tional changes are required.
>
> Also, please go through the responses provided to the other review com= ments and let us know if there are still any unanswered questions.
>
> Regards,
> -Pavan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
> Mirja K=C3=BChlewind has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06: Discuss
>
> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all<= br> > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut thi= s
> introductory paragraph, however.)
>
>
> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/i= esg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>
>
> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
> DISCUSS:
> ------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
>
> I'm uncertain what section 2.1.3. actually recommends. My understa= nding is that
> it is recommend to still send retransmit some message even if the Rl w= as
> reached and to that every 30s basically forever. First of all I think = this
> still needs a termination criteria when to stop to try to retransmit f= inally.
> And the I don't understand why this is needed, instead of e.g. jus= t using a
> larger Rl value? Can you please clarify!
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
> COMMENT:
> ------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
>
> I fully agree with the gan-art review (Thanks Elwyn!) and Alvaro, that= this
> reads from time to time like a BCP but is actually a extension specifi= cation. I
> would strongly recommend to apply the changes proposed by the gen-art = review,
> and there is also a very detailed list of nits/edits that should proba= bly be
> applied. Please have a look at that!
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Teas mailing list
> Teas@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >


--001a1144151036069c055ad28dbd-- From nobody Fri Oct 6 12:17:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E72134C53 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:17:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WM0cB2DBm15k for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26AE51342F3 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw2 (unknown [10.0.90.83]) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04329175F9A for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2017 13:17:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id JKH61w01L2SSUrH01KH9e3; Fri, 06 Oct 2017 13:17:09 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=dZfw5Tfe c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=02M-m0pO-4AA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=nSpYLyrFKbdv4RD-VVQA:9 a=fCbeM3ezMMtV0mtD:21 a=mMU2XCB-K16SKlEn:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=edQSZnA5wmWbUJ6zgA049Iq6DDfapA+VaPNatDQvTyA=; b=iS4egodnHLoo8qRaOC/GHZq6AH lsy691Vpbze8iDxejfprq3+pToM5b8fyI7zHW0Hn+MZ+yG57b430zO3ge/O0NnrbW4HPukV99TSiW BfuA19UIgdtvEJ/jBnofQkLFw; Received: from pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.84.20]:49648 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e0Y7O-003SIW-77; Fri, 06 Oct 2017 13:17:06 -0600 To: Daniele Ceccarelli , "teas@ietf.org" References: <150713011944.23895.1498124220099529967@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 15:17:04 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.84.20 X-Exim-ID: 1e0Y7O-003SIW-77 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.84.20]:49648 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2017 19:17:14 -0000 Daniele, Authors,     Thank you for this substantive update. All, There has been a reasonable pass at cleaning up much of the text - and a fair bit has changed, so please review and comment -- even if it's just to say that you've read it and thing the changes are beneficial. Thanks, Lou (and Pavan) On 10/4/2017 11:29 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: > Dear WG, > > we submitted a new version of the ACTN framework draft which does not introduce or modify any concept but that is the result of a heavy text re-adjustment (thanks a lot Adrian for the huge effort) to improve readability and get rid of duplicated and redundant text. > > The authors and contributors think this is ready for WG LC and would appreciate your comments to the list. > > BR > Daniele (for the co-authors) > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- >> drafts@ietf.org >> Sent: mercoledì 4 ottobre 2017 17:15 >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >> Cc: teas@ietf.org >> Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt >> >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling >> WG of the IETF. >> >> Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered >> Networks >> Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli >> Young Lee >> Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt >> Pages : 37 >> Date : 2017-10-04 >> >> Abstract: >> Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to >> facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They >> also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to >> configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms >> represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic >> networking. >> >> Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied >> to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a >> single virtualized network that is under the control of a network >> operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns >> the network resources. >> >> This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of >> Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). >> >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Fri Oct 6 12:32:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C3E134301 for ; 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bh=y6S7j02ZGgnoBDJ4q1W7SPWf1qeVJV1hs7AbtaTdjGE=; b=wXaoq1Ihm5J0u29DBlvD1eoFNf JsjVAXP5Vl9c87WLXRR4s+7DgNufmO+Z1Es61nFc6fQU98As+cZKPw62cYvKw/WzslwEmRYS9T9wJ wQOPkjx1a/I0uGLwYVYSMX4fl; Received: from pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.84.20]:49810 helo=fs2.dc.labn.net) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e0YLk-003UjD-1q; Fri, 06 Oct 2017 13:31:56 -0600 To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com" , Elwyn Davies Cc: "gen-art@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org" , "teas@ietf.org" , ietf References: <8wh65ldo8qkrghsf29x4nukb.1506702288623@email.android.com> <15eec201498.27d3.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <2cdc53f9-11c4-40d7-c37c-09b747b763f6@labn.net> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 15:31:54 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.84.20 X-Exim-ID: 1e0YLk-003UjD-1q X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net (fs2.dc.labn.net) [100.15.84.20]:49810 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 8 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2017 19:32:05 -0000 Hi Pavan, On 10/05/2017 07:44 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Lou, Hi! > > Responses inline (prefixed PB). > > Regards, > -Pavan > > From: Lou Berger > > Date: Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 6:41 AM > To: "EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com " > >, Elwyn Davies > > > Cc: "gen-art@ietf.org " >, > "draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org > " > >, > "teas@ietf.org " >, ietf > > Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 > > Hi Pavan, > > WRT if this document updates rfc2961: > > I don't have a strong opinion on or objection to this document updating > rfc2961.  To have this document be an update, I do think we and it need > to be clear on what exactly is being updated in 2961. After rereading > both it's unclear to me what you see is being updated. As best I can > see, this document basically relates to 2961 in that it says (a) use the > reliable message delivery defined in 2961 and (b) restates that 2205 > refresh processing of path and resv messages still applies after a rapid > retry period expires and (c) sending acks moves from recommended to > required.  > > What did I miss? > > FWIW I think (a) and (c) are requirements of this document not 2961 and > (b) seems like an informative statement that the basic refresh > processing rules of rfc2205 still apply. > > -- > [PB] This is all about how we interpret (b). RFC2961 doesn’t explicitly > state what happens the rapid retry period expires. The current draft > explains what needs to be done. Does this warrant an official update to > RFC2961?  The RFC doesn't generally review unmodified RFC2205 processing, nor has that been the normal practice when defining RSVP extensions. An informative statement in this draft certainly would do no harm if you feel that it is needed, but I don't think it raises to the level of an update. Thanks, Lou > — > > Thanks > Lou > > On October 1, 2017 9:14:15 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram > wrote: > >> Elwyn, Hi! >> >> Please see inline for responses. >> >> Regards, >> -Pavan >> >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Elwyn Davies > > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, Pavan. >> >> I've checked through the changes in -07 and I think all is good as >> regards fixing the 'major issue', restucturing s2 and fixing the >> nits - thanks. >> >> >> [Pavan] Great! >> >> >> Looking at the IESG comments I think you have covered most of >> them  except it would be good to put a pointer to Appendix A into >> the intro of s2.  >> >> With reference to Appendix A(d), it would be helpful to s/periodic >> retransmission interval/Periodic Retransmission Interval/ and >> possibly give it a name (Rpri or some such)  in s2.3 and Appendix >> A(d).  Adding the name of the interval after "retransmission of >> these on a slower timer" migt mak it clearer also. >> >> >> [Pavan] Ok. We'll add a pointer to the Appendix and also find a short >> form for the periodic retransmission interval. >> >> >> However,  I think you still need to address all three of the minor >> issues: >> - Capability object:  A 'basic' implementation of RFC 2209/RFC3209 >> will not include the RFC5063 extensions.  >> >> >> [Pavan] I think you meant RFC2205 and not RFC2209. >> >> I think you should therefore make it explicit that a prerequisite >> for your extensions is an implementation of the Capability object >> as specified in RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , making it clear >> that this does not require any of the other functionality of RFC >> 5063, especially no support for the S bit in the Capabilities. >> >> >> [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capability Object" needs a separate >> prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD take a >> call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using >> Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then >> need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate section for >> RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of >> certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and "Node Hellos", >> there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarified. We >> could just add a statement in Section 4.1 saying that you don't need >> to set any other flags. Would that address your concern about the >> ambiguity regarding the "Graceful Restart" bits? >> >> OLD >> An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique >> MUST set a new >> flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello >> messages. >> NEW >> >> An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new >> flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello >> messages. This MAY be the only flag set in the object. >> >> >> -  Your response regarding what happens if a peer initially >> acknowledges that it supports the new capabilities by setting the >> I/F bits in the Capability and sends some messages with the >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit set, but then stops setting the >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't really address the problem.  >>  Would this mean that the receiver should assume that the peer can >> no longer support the extensions?  >> >> >> [Pavan] Yes. >> >> Is this a permanent state or could the peer start setting the >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and restore initial >> functionality - or should this just not be allowed. >> >> >> [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionality. >> >> I think you need to think through what happes in the various >> possible cases and explain what an implementation should do in >> each case. >> >> >> [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality >> enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the >> implementation does everything that is specified as required for the >> given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation doesn't >> employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'll try >> and add some text to make this obvious. >>   >> >> - So, I have done my homework and checked back on what happens >> when there is no acknowledgement of refreshes. The relevant >> parameter is the cleanup time.  However, this leaves us with a >> problem.. the cleanup time is typically set as a multiple of the >> refresh interval (9 times seems to be the default) - indeed I see >> that the interface configuration on a Juniper router (!) actually >> sets it by asking for the multiple rather than an absolute value.  >> Wth the new dispensation in ths document, there are two time >> periods involved:  I think you do need to respecify how to >> calculate a sensible cleanup interval, and note that the >> retransmissions will then halt after this interval. >> >> >> [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer >> (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP >> instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01 >> >> for a detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it >> and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3) >> that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from what you >> are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not just >> PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure >> discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid >> retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In Section >> 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry limit is >> reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid >> retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this needs >> to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding state >> is torn down. >> >> >> Does this last modification constitute an update of RFC 2209?  I >> am not sure -consult your AD! >> >> >> [Pavan] RFC2209 is an informational document that provides guidance on >> the various data-models and procedures needed for an implementation to >> be RFC2205 compliant. Most of the content in RFC2209 is outdated >> (imho). No one has had the inclination over the years to update this >> and we don't intend to do this either. >> >> [Pavan] Reading through the various questions/comments from the IESG, >> I'm convinced that this document needs to formally update RFC2961. >> We'll go ahead and do that if the shepherd and our AD have no objections. >>   >> >> >> Regards, >> Elwyn  >> >> Sent from Samsung tablet. >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram > > >> Date: 28/09/2017 03:48 (GMT+00:00) >> To: Elwyn Davies > > >> Cc: gen-art@ietf.org , >> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org >> , ietf >> >, teas@ietf.org >> >> Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of >> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 >> >> Elwyn, Hi! >> >> Thanks for the detailed review and the text suggestions. We just >> posted a new revision (-07) to address the concerns listed below. >> Please go through the new diffs >> (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-07 >> ) >> and let us know if additional changes are required. >> >> Please see inline for further responses (prefixed VPB). >> >> Regards, >> -Pavan >> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Elwyn Davies >> > wrote: >> >> Reviewer: Elwyn Davies >> Review result: Not Ready >> >> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General >> Area >> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed >> by the IESG for the IETF Chair.  Please treat these comments just >> like any other last call comments. >> >> For more information, please see the FAQ at >> >> > >. >> >> Document: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 >> Reviewer: Elwyn Davies >> Review Date: 2017-09-22 >> IETF LC End Date: 2017-09-22 >> IESG Telechat date: 2017-09-28 >> >> Summary: Not ready, primarily because the title and >> presentation give the >> impression that the content is really a BCP when it isn't.  >> This conceals the >> considerable amount of tweaking of RFC 2961 functionality and >> addition of new >> RSVP Capabilities described in the document.  There are also a >> couple of minor >> issues that need to be sorted out. >> >> Major issues: >> Title and way proposals are presented:  The document defines >> two new >> 'capabilities' for RSVP-TE and is indeed (as specified in the >> document header) >> correctly intended for Standards Track status.  However the >> title and the whole >> of the meat of the document in Section 2 presents the proposals as >> 'recommendations' which says to me that I am expecting a BCP >> where a profile of >> available options from existing standards is recommended as >> the best choice for >> implementation and deployment.  In my opinion, the title would >> be better as >> something like "Additional Capabilities Designed to Improve >> the Scalability of >> RSVP-TE Deployments".  Whilst the proposals are based on the >> techniques in RFC >> 2961, the document *requires* the implementor to conform to >> rules that were >> optional and constrains configurable values to different >> ranges in order to be >> able to deliver the capabilities defined in the document as >> well as defining >> new RSVP extensions modifying some of the behaviour defined in >> RFC 2961.  Thus >> although some of the rules could be met by choosing particular >> values within >> the RFC 2961 set, the use of MUST, tweaking of functionality >> and variation of >> ranges takes it well beyond a set of recommendations for RFC >> 2961 options >> selections.  In view of this Section 1 needs to be written as >> an introduction >> to the definitions of the new capabilities rather than >> advocacy for selection >> of RFC 2961 options and the implication that the techniques >> mentioned in the >> last paragraph of s1 are just a matter of selecting a profile >> of option values. >>  In actuality new protocol values are introduced and ss2.2 and >> 2.3 define novel >> extensions to RSVP beyond what is available for RFC 2961 and >> requiring >> modification to basic RFC 2961 functionality.. >> >> >> [VPB] We changed the title to "Techniques to Improve the >> Scalability of RSVP-TE Deployments". We also tweaked the text in >> the introduction section as suggested. Please see if the new set >> of diffs address the comment above. >> >> Minor issues: >> Interaction with RFC 5063:  The document does not explicitly >> state that an >> implementation would need to support (at least) the extra >> capability obect >> defined in s4.2 of RFC 5063.  Some words about interaction >> with RFC 5063 are >> probably required in that s4.2.1 of RFC 5063 rather assumes >> that if there is a >> capability object, by default its S bit will be set. >> >> >> [VPB] The CAPABILITY object in RFC5063 is meant for generic use >> and can be used even when there are no Graceful Restart extensions >> in play (even when no GR flags are set). As far as we can tell, >> there is nothing in RFC5063 that precludes this. We added a >> reference to RFC5063 when the new Capability flags are introduced. >> Would this be sufficient to address this concern? >>   >> >> >> Behaviour if a node stops setting Refresh-Reduction-Capable >> bit:  The last para >> of s2 in RFC 2961 discusses behaviour if a node stops setting >> this bit in >> messages.  What would happen with the extensions defined in >> this document if >> this happened while either of the extensions is in use?  As a >> matter of >> interest, if a peer offers the capabilities defined in this >> draft, is it >> possible or sensible for it to stop setting the >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit >> without stopping offering the extensions? >> >> >> [VPB]  If a peer sets the I or F bit in the CAPABILITY object but >> does not set the Refresh-Reduction-capable bit, then the >> corresponding functionality ("RI-RSVP" or "Per-Peer Flow-Control") >> is not activated for that peer. In other words, resetting the >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit immediately makes the node incapable >> of supporting the two capabilities discussed in this document. >> This is covered in Sections 3.1 and 4.1 ( -07 version). >> >> >> s2.1.3, para 2: As specified, it appears that the 'slower >> timer' transmission >> of Path and Resv messages can go on indefinitely if no ack >> arrives.  What puts >> an end to this repetition?  [It may be that I have forgotten >> how basic RSVP >> works, but since this is altering the behaviour it would be >> good to explain how >> it terminates, and whether this requires any additional >> modification to timers.] >> >> >> [VPB]  There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting >> transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling >> behavior) -- all that this section does is discuss how these >> transmissions are paced in the absence of an ack. The slower timer >> transmission will go on until either an ack is received (at which >> point the regular "refresh interval" comes into play) or the >> corresponding LSP instance state is torn down. >> >> >> Nits/editorial comments: >> Abstract: RSVP-TE is not a 'well-known' abbreviation: >> s/RSVP-TE/RSVP Traffic >> Engineering (RSVP-TE)/ >> >> >> Abstract and s1, first para:  This para is not future proof.  >> Suggest: >> OLD: >>    The scale at which RSVP-TE [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths >> (LSPs) get >>    deployed is growing continually and there is considerable >> onus on >>    RSVP-TE implementations across the board to keep up with this >>    increasing demand in scale. >> NEW: >>    At the time of writing, networks which utilise RSVP Traffic >> Engineering >>    (RSVP-TE) [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) are >> encountering limitations >>    in the ability of implementations to support the growth in >> the number of LSPs >>    deployed.  This document defines two additional RSVP-TE >> extensions that >>    are intended to reduce the number of messages needed to >> maintain RSVP-TE >>    soft state in routers and hence allow implementations to >> support larger >>    scale deployments. >> ENDS >> Note:  Omit reference from Abstract. >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> s1, para 2: s/under certain/beyond a certain/ >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >> s1, para 3: s/makes a set of concrete implementation >> recommendations/defines >> two extensions/; s/- push higher/by increasing/; s/maintain >> LSP state./maintain >> LSP state by reducing the number of messages needed./ >> >> Abstract, para 2 and s1, last para:  [Omit reference from >> Abstract] >> OLD: >>    This document advocates the use of a couple of techniques - >> "Refresh- >>    Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer >> Flow-Control" - >>    for significantly cutting down the amount of processing cycles >>    required to maintain LSP state. >> NEW: >>    This document defines two RSVP Capabilities [RFC5063] "Refresh- >>    Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer >> Flow-Control" >>    that will cut down the number of messsages and processing >> cycles >>    required to maintain LSP state. >> ENDS >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >> s1, last para: Add new penultimate sentence: >>    Note that the "Per-Peer Flow-Control" capability requires >> the "RI-RSVP" >>    capability as a prerequisite. >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >> s1, last para: s/RECOMMENDED/recommended/ - this isn't a >> recommendation about >> the protocol on the wire. >> >>   >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >> Subdivision of s2:  The issues regarding the nature of the >> document would be >> helped by altering s2 into four top level sections, thus: s2: >> Requirement for >> RFC 2961 Refresh Overhead Reduction Support and Specific >> Option Choices (from >> s2.1) s3: Requirement for RFC 5063 Capability Object support >> (see Minor Issues >> above) s4: Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Capability (from >> s2.3) s5: >> Per-Peer RSVP Flow Control Capability (from s2.4) Subsequent >> major sections >> then renumbered as s6 onwards. References to s2.x will need to >> be updated >> throughout. >> >> >> [VPB] We subdivided s2 into 3 top level sections. We did not add a >> separate section for discussing RFC5063 Capability Object support. >> >> >> s2.1 (would be introduction of new s2): >> OLD: >>    The implementation recommendations discussed in this >> section are >>    based on the proposals made in [RFC2961] and act as >> prerequisites for >>    implementing the techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and 2.3. >> >> NEW: >>    The Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5 of this >> document are based on >>    proposals made in [RFC2961].  Implementations of these >> Capabilities will >>    need to support the RSVP messages and techniques defined in >> [RFC2961] as set >>    out in Section 2.1 [was 2.1.1] with >>    some minor modifications and alterations to recommended >> time intervals and >>    iteration counts as defined in the remainder of this section. >> ENDS >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> s2.1.1, title and para 1 [will be s2.1]: >> OLD: >> 2.1.1.  Basic Prerequisites >> >>    An implementation that supports the techniques discussed in >> Sections >>    2.2 and 2.3 must meet certain basic prerequisites. >> NEW: >> 2.1.  Required Functionality from RFC 2961 to be Implemented >> >>    An implementation that supports the capabiities discussed >> in Sections >>    4 and 5 must provide a large subset of the functionality >> described >>    in [RFC2961] as follows: >> ENDS >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >> s2.1.2, para 2 [will be s2.2]: s/techniques discussed in >> Sections 2.2 and >> 2.3/Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5/ >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >> s2.1.2, para 2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/ >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >> s2.2, para 1: s/improvement on transmission >> overhead/improvement of >> transmission overhead/ >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >> s2.2, para 1: s/proposes sufficient recommendations/sets out >> additional >> requirements/ >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >> s2.2, last bullet: Add a reference to the proposed new Section >> 3 that discusses >> the Capability object. >> >>   >> [VPB] Added a direct reference to RFC5063 >> >> >> s2.2.1, last para: s/set Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in >> common header/set the >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in the common header/ >> >> >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 >> >> >> s2.3, para 1: s/set of recommendations/functionality/; 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Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. 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Regards, Igor -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 3:38 PM To: hsitaraman@juniper.net; vbeeram@juniper.net; inaminei@google.com; msiva= @cisco.com Cc: TEAS WG Subject: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. 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Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S
TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed
as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

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If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
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appropriate.

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aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
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This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S > TO LINES. > > If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed > as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under > the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are > aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from > participating in any contribution or discussion related to your > undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above > and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > TEAS WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --94eb2c05d4703270cb055ae75a95 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to= this draft"

Regards,
-Pavan

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:39= PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
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"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

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appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
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On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Lou Berger &l= t;lberger@labn.net> wrote:

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I think that settles the "update" debate. Elwyn, Hi! Are you satisfied with my other responses? I'll submit a new revision as agreed in my responses. Regards, -Pavan On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi Pavan, > > On 10/05/2017 07:44 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > > Lou, Hi! > > > > Responses inline (prefixed PB). > > > > Regards, > > -Pavan > > > > From: Lou Berger > > > Date: Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 6:41 AM > > To: "EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com " > > >, Elwyn Davies > > > > > Cc: "gen-art@ietf.org " > >, > > "draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org > > " > > > >, > > "teas@ietf.org " > >, ietf > > > Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of > > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 > > > > Hi Pavan, > > > > WRT if this document updates rfc2961: > > > > I don't have a strong opinion on or objection to this document updating > > rfc2961. To have this document be an update, I do think we and it need > > to be clear on what exactly is being updated in 2961. After rereading > > both it's unclear to me what you see is being updated. As best I can > > see, this document basically relates to 2961 in that it says (a) use th= e > > reliable message delivery defined in 2961 and (b) restates that 2205 > > refresh processing of path and resv messages still applies after a rapi= d > > retry period expires and (c) sending acks moves from recommended to > > required. > > > > What did I miss? > > > > FWIW I think (a) and (c) are requirements of this document not 2961 and > > (b) seems like an informative statement that the basic refresh > > processing rules of rfc2205 still apply. > > > > -- > > [PB] This is all about how we interpret (b). RFC2961 doesn=E2=80=99t ex= plicitly > > state what happens the rapid retry period expires. The current draft > > explains what needs to be done. Does this warrant an official update to > > RFC2961? > > The RFC doesn't generally review unmodified RFC2205 processing, nor has > that been the normal practice when defining RSVP extensions. An > informative statement in this draft certainly would do no harm if you > feel that it is needed, but I don't think it raises to the level of an > update. > > Thanks, > Lou > > > > =E2=80=94 > > > > Thanks > > Lou > > > > On October 1, 2017 9:14:15 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram > > wrote: > > > >> Elwyn, Hi! > >> > >> Please see inline for responses. > >> > >> Regards, > >> -Pavan > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Elwyn Davies >> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi, Pavan. > >> > >> I've checked through the changes in -07 and I think all is good as > >> regards fixing the 'major issue', restucturing s2 and fixing the > >> nits - thanks. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] Great! > >> > >> > >> Looking at the IESG comments I think you have covered most of > >> them except it would be good to put a pointer to Appendix A into > >> the intro of s2. > >> > >> With reference to Appendix A(d), it would be helpful to s/periodic > >> retransmission interval/Periodic Retransmission Interval/ and > >> possibly give it a name (Rpri or some such) in s2.3 and Appendix > >> A(d). Adding the name of the interval after "retransmission of > >> these on a slower timer" migt mak it clearer also. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] Ok. We'll add a pointer to the Appendix and also find a short > >> form for the periodic retransmission interval. > >> > >> > >> However, I think you still need to address all three of the minor > >> issues: > >> - Capability object: A 'basic' implementation of RFC 2209/RFC3209 > >> will not include the RFC5063 extensions. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] I think you meant RFC2205 and not RFC2209. > >> > >> I think you should therefore make it explicit that a prerequisite > >> for your extensions is an implementation of the Capability object > >> as specified in RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , making it clear > >> that this does not require any of the other functionality of RFC > >> 5063, especially no support for the S bit in the Capabilities. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capability Object" needs a separate > >> prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD take a > >> call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using > >> Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then > >> need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate section for > >> RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of > >> certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and "Node Hellos", > >> there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarified. We > >> could just add a statement in Section 4.1 saying that you don't need > >> to set any other flags. Would that address your concern about the > >> ambiguity regarding the "Graceful Restart" bits? > >> > >> OLD > >> An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique > >> MUST set a new > >> flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello > >> messages. > >> NEW > >> > >> An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new > >> flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello > >> messages. This MAY be the only flag set in the object. > >> > >> > >> - Your response regarding what happens if a peer initially > >> acknowledges that it supports the new capabilities by setting the > >> I/F bits in the Capability and sends some messages with the > >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit set, but then stops setting the > >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't really address the problem. > >> Would this mean that the receiver should assume that the peer can > >> no longer support the extensions? > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] Yes. > >> > >> Is this a permanent state or could the peer start setting the > >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and restore initial > >> functionality - or should this just not be allowed. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionality. > >> > >> I think you need to think through what happes in the various > >> possible cases and explain what an implementation should do in > >> each case. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality > >> enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the > >> implementation does everything that is specified as required for the > >> given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation doesn't > >> employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'll try > >> and add some text to make this obvious. > >> > >> > >> - So, I have done my homework and checked back on what happens > >> when there is no acknowledgement of refreshes. The relevant > >> parameter is the cleanup time. However, this leaves us with a > >> problem.. the cleanup time is typically set as a multiple of the > >> refresh interval (9 times seems to be the default) - indeed I see > >> that the interface configuration on a Juniper router (!) actually > >> sets it by asking for the multiple rather than an absolute value. > >> Wth the new dispensation in ths document, there are two time > >> periods involved: I think you do need to respecify how to > >> calculate a sensible cleanup interval, and note that the > >> retransmissions will then halt after this interval. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer > >> (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP > >> instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01 > >> 3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dravisingh-2Dteas-2Drsvp- > 2Dsetup-2Dretry-2D01&d=3DDwMDaQ&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK- > ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DCFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=3Dk7e- > cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=3DXXwwGPXiCQhVIgNDbiHxKEuHs1fkm= M > oiGQsHcQ33ZQE&e=3D> > >> for a detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it > >> and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3) > >> that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from what you > >> are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not just > >> PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure > >> discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid > >> retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In Section > >> 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry limit is > >> reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid > >> retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this needs > >> to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding state > >> is torn down. > >> > >> > >> Does this last modification constitute an update of RFC 2209? I > >> am not sure -consult your AD! > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] RFC2209 is an informational document that provides guidance on > >> the various data-models and procedures needed for an implementation to > >> be RFC2205 compliant. Most of the content in RFC2209 is outdated > >> (imho). No one has had the inclination over the years to update this > >> and we don't intend to do this either. > >> > >> [Pavan] Reading through the various questions/comments from the IESG, > >> I'm convinced that this document needs to formally update RFC2961. > >> We'll go ahead and do that if the shepherd and our AD have no > objections. > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> Elwyn > >> > >> Sent from Samsung tablet. > >> > >> -------- Original message -------- > >> From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram >> > > >> Date: 28/09/2017 03:48 (GMT+00:00) > >> To: Elwyn Davies >> > > >> Cc: gen-art@ietf.org , > >> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org > >> , ietf > >> >, teas@ietf.org > >> > >> Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of > >> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 > >> > >> Elwyn, Hi! > >> > >> Thanks for the detailed review and the text suggestions. We just > >> posted a new revision (-07) to address the concerns listed below. > >> Please go through the new diffs > >> (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te- > scaling-rec-07 > >> 3A__www.ietf.org_rfcdiff-3Furl2-3Ddraft-2Dietf-2Dteas- > 2Drsvp-2Dte-2Dscaling-2Drec-2D07&d=3DDwMDaQ&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXe= MK- > ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DCFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=3Dk7e- > cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=3DxuSuAQ7BlTuE-ue- > 3t5WtAzMMA9cBuBNzk4iM7yoTHs&e=3D>) > >> and let us know if additional changes are required. > >> > >> Please see inline for further responses (prefixed VPB). > >> > >> Regards, > >> -Pavan > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Elwyn Davies > >> > wrote: > >> > >> Reviewer: Elwyn Davies > >> Review result: Not Ready > >> > >> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General > >> Area > >> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being process= ed > >> by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments > just > >> like any other last call comments. > >> > >> For more information, please see the FAQ at > >> > >> >> 3A__trac.ietf.org_trac_gen_wiki_GenArtfaq&d=3DDwMDaQ&c=3D > HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D > CFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=3Dk7e- > cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=3D7EVfFwYHvGi6M8T035d7tGPQVwgnE= J > q_TzB3RddVx2Q&e=3D>>. > >> > >> Document: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 > >> Reviewer: Elwyn Davies > >> Review Date: 2017-09-22 > >> IETF LC End Date: 2017-09-22 > >> IESG Telechat date: 2017-09-28 > >> > >> Summary: Not ready, primarily because the title and > >> presentation give the > >> impression that the content is really a BCP when it isn't. > >> This conceals the > >> considerable amount of tweaking of RFC 2961 functionality and > >> addition of new > >> RSVP Capabilities described in the document. There are also a > >> couple of minor > >> issues that need to be sorted out. > >> > >> Major issues: > >> Title and way proposals are presented: The document defines > >> two new > >> 'capabilities' for RSVP-TE and is indeed (as specified in the > >> document header) > >> correctly intended for Standards Track status. However the > >> title and the whole > >> of the meat of the document in Section 2 presents the proposal= s > as > >> 'recommendations' which says to me that I am expecting a BCP > >> where a profile of > >> available options from existing standards is recommended as > >> the best choice for > >> implementation and deployment. In my opinion, the title would > >> be better as > >> something like "Additional Capabilities Designed to Improve > >> the Scalability of > >> RSVP-TE Deployments". Whilst the proposals are based on the > >> techniques in RFC > >> 2961, the document *requires* the implementor to conform to > >> rules that were > >> optional and constrains configurable values to different > >> ranges in order to be > >> able to deliver the capabilities defined in the document as > >> well as defining > >> new RSVP extensions modifying some of the behaviour defined in > >> RFC 2961. Thus > >> although some of the rules could be met by choosing particular > >> values within > >> the RFC 2961 set, the use of MUST, tweaking of functionality > >> and variation of > >> ranges takes it well beyond a set of recommendations for RFC > >> 2961 options > >> selections. In view of this Section 1 needs to be written as > >> an introduction > >> to the definitions of the new capabilities rather than > >> advocacy for selection > >> of RFC 2961 options and the implication that the techniques > >> mentioned in the > >> last paragraph of s1 are just a matter of selecting a profile > >> of option values. > >> In actuality new protocol values are introduced and ss2.2 and > >> 2.3 define novel > >> extensions to RSVP beyond what is available for RFC 2961 and > >> requiring > >> modification to basic RFC 2961 functionality.. > >> > >> > >> [VPB] We changed the title to "Techniques to Improve the > >> Scalability of RSVP-TE Deployments". We also tweaked the text in > >> the introduction section as suggested. Please see if the new set > >> of diffs address the comment above. > >> > >> Minor issues: > >> Interaction with RFC 5063: The document does not explicitly > >> state that an > >> implementation would need to support (at least) the extra > >> capability obect > >> defined in s4.2 of RFC 5063. Some words about interaction > >> with RFC 5063 are > >> probably required in that s4.2.1 of RFC 5063 rather assumes > >> that if there is a > >> capability object, by default its S bit will be set. > >> > >> > >> [VPB] The CAPABILITY object in RFC5063 is meant for generic use > >> and can be used even when there are no Graceful Restart extensions > >> in play (even when no GR flags are set). As far as we can tell, > >> there is nothing in RFC5063 that precludes this. We added a > >> reference to RFC5063 when the new Capability flags are introduced. > >> Would this be sufficient to address this concern? > >> > >> > >> > >> Behaviour if a node stops setting Refresh-Reduction-Capable > >> bit: The last para > >> of s2 in RFC 2961 discusses behaviour if a node stops setting > >> this bit in > >> messages. What would happen with the extensions defined in > >> this document if > >> this happened while either of the extensions is in use? As a > >> matter of > >> interest, if a peer offers the capabilities defined in this > >> draft, is it > >> possible or sensible for it to stop setting the > >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit > >> without stopping offering the extensions? > >> > >> > >> [VPB] If a peer sets the I or F bit in the CAPABILITY object but > >> does not set the Refresh-Reduction-capable bit, then the > >> corresponding functionality ("RI-RSVP" or "Per-Peer Flow-Control") > >> is not activated for that peer. In other words, resetting the > >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit immediately makes the node incapable > >> of supporting the two capabilities discussed in this document. > >> This is covered in Sections 3.1 and 4.1 ( -07 version). > >> > >> > >> s2.1.3, para 2: As specified, it appears that the 'slower > >> timer' transmission > >> of Path and Resv messages can go on indefinitely if no ack > >> arrives. What puts > >> an end to this repetition? [It may be that I have forgotten > >> how basic RSVP > >> works, but since this is altering the behaviour it would be > >> good to explain how > >> it terminates, and whether this requires any additional > >> modification to timers.] > >> > >> > >> [VPB] There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting > >> transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling > >> behavior) -- all that this section does is discuss how these > >> transmissions are paced in the absence of an ack. The slower timer > >> transmission will go on until either an ack is received (at which > >> point the regular "refresh interval" comes into play) or the > >> corresponding LSP instance state is torn down. > >> > >> > >> Nits/editorial comments: > >> Abstract: RSVP-TE is not a 'well-known' abbreviation: > >> s/RSVP-TE/RSVP Traffic > >> Engineering (RSVP-TE)/ > >> > >> > >> Abstract and s1, first para: This para is not future proof. > >> Suggest: > >> OLD: > >> The scale at which RSVP-TE [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths > >> (LSPs) get > >> deployed is growing continually and there is considerable > >> onus on > >> RSVP-TE implementations across the board to keep up with th= is > >> increasing demand in scale. > >> NEW: > >> At the time of writing, networks which utilise RSVP Traffic > >> Engineering > >> (RSVP-TE) [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) are > >> encountering limitations > >> in the ability of implementations to support the growth in > >> the number of LSPs > >> deployed. This document defines two additional RSVP-TE > >> extensions that > >> are intended to reduce the number of messages needed to > >> maintain RSVP-TE > >> soft state in routers and hence allow implementations to > >> support larger > >> scale deployments. > >> ENDS > >> Note: Omit reference from Abstract. > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> s1, para 2: s/under certain/beyond a certain/ > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> s1, para 3: s/makes a set of concrete implementation > >> recommendations/defines > >> two extensions/; s/- push higher/by increasing/; s/maintain > >> LSP state./maintain > >> LSP state by reducing the number of messages needed./ > >> > >> Abstract, para 2 and s1, last para: [Omit reference from > >> Abstract] > >> OLD: > >> This document advocates the use of a couple of techniques - > >> "Refresh- > >> Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer > >> Flow-Control" - > >> for significantly cutting down the amount of processing > cycles > >> required to maintain LSP state. > >> NEW: > >> This document defines two RSVP Capabilities [RFC5063] > "Refresh- > >> Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer > >> Flow-Control" > >> that will cut down the number of messsages and processing > >> cycles > >> required to maintain LSP state. > >> ENDS > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> s1, last para: Add new penultimate sentence: > >> Note that the "Per-Peer Flow-Control" capability requires > >> the "RI-RSVP" > >> capability as a prerequisite. > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> s1, last para: s/RECOMMENDED/recommended/ - this isn't a > >> recommendation about > >> the protocol on the wire. > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> Subdivision of s2: The issues regarding the nature of the > >> document would be > >> helped by altering s2 into four top level sections, thus: s2: > >> Requirement for > >> RFC 2961 Refresh Overhead Reduction Support and Specific > >> Option Choices (from > >> s2.1) s3: Requirement for RFC 5063 Capability Object support > >> (see Minor Issues > >> above) s4: Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Capability (from > >> s2.3) s5: > >> Per-Peer RSVP Flow Control Capability (from s2.4) Subsequent > >> major sections > >> then renumbered as s6 onwards. References to s2.x will need to > >> be updated > >> throughout. > >> > >> > >> [VPB] We subdivided s2 into 3 top level sections. We did not add a > >> separate section for discussing RFC5063 Capability Object support. > >> > >> > >> s2.1 (would be introduction of new s2): > >> OLD: > >> The implementation recommendations discussed in this > >> section are > >> based on the proposals made in [RFC2961] and act as > >> prerequisites for > >> implementing the techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and > 2.3. > >> > >> NEW: > >> The Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5 of this > >> document are based on > >> proposals made in [RFC2961]. Implementations of these > >> Capabilities will > >> need to support the RSVP messages and techniques defined in > >> [RFC2961] as set > >> out in Section 2.1 [was 2.1.1] with > >> some minor modifications and alterations to recommended > >> time intervals and > >> iteration counts as defined in the remainder of this sectio= n. > >> ENDS > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> s2.1.1, title and para 1 [will be s2.1]: > >> OLD: > >> 2.1.1. Basic Prerequisites > >> > >> An implementation that supports the techniques discussed in > >> Sections > >> 2.2 and 2.3 must meet certain basic prerequisites. > >> NEW: > >> 2.1. Required Functionality from RFC 2961 to be Implemented > >> > >> An implementation that supports the capabiities discussed > >> in Sections > >> 4 and 5 must provide a large subset of the functionality > >> described > >> in [RFC2961] as follows: > >> ENDS > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> s2.1.2, para 2 [will be s2.2]: s/techniques discussed in > >> Sections 2.2 and > >> 2.3/Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5/ > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> s2.1.2, para 2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/ > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> s2.2, para 1: s/improvement on transmission > >> overhead/improvement of > >> transmission overhead/ > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> s2.2, para 1: s/proposes sufficient recommendations/sets out > >> additional > >> requirements/ > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> s2.2, last bullet: Add a reference to the proposed new Section > >> 3 that discusses > >> the Capability object. > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Added a direct reference to RFC5063 > >> > >> > >> s2.2.1, last para: s/set Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in > >> common header/set the > >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in the common header/ > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> s2.3, para 1: s/set of recommendations/functionality/; > >> s/provide/provides/; > >> s/RSVP-TE control plane congestion/a significant portion of > >> the RSVP-TE control > >> message load/ > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> s2.3.2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/ > >> > >> > >> [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > >> 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_teas&d=3DDwMDaQ&c=3D > HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D > CFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=3Dk7e- > cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=3Dg6wdiVKa0BcV5n4De8h3NjtO0hRGa= F > GruAncUJvpq_k&e=3D> > >> > >> > >> > > --94eb2c05910807c5c1055ae77514 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lou,
Thanks for the response. I t= hink that settles the "update" debate.

Elwyn, Hi!
Are you satisfied with my other responses? I'll= submit a new revision as agreed in my responses.

R= egards,
-Pavan

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.n= et> wrote:
Hi Pavan,

On 10/05/2017 07:44 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
> Lou, Hi!
>
> Responses inline (prefixed PB).
>
> Regards,
> -Pavan
>
> From: Lou Berger <lberge= r@labn.net <mailto:lberger@labn.= net>>
> Date: Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 6:41 AM
> To: "EXT-vish= nupavan@gmail.com <mailto:EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com>"
> <vishnupavan@gmail.com= <mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com<= /a>>>, Elwyn Davies
> <elwynd@dial.pipex.com= <mailto:elwynd@dial.pipex.com<= /a>>>
> Cc: "gen-art@ietf.org <= ;mailto:gen-art@ietf.org>" = <gen-art@ietf.org
> <mailto:gen-art@ietf.org>= ;>,
> "draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org
> <mailto:draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org>"= ;
> <draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org
> <mailto:draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org>>,=
> "teas@ietf.org <mailto:teas@ietf.org>" <teas@ietf.org
> <mailto:teas@ietf.org>>,= ietf <ietf@ietf.org <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of
> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06
>
> Hi Pavan,
>
> WRT if this document updates rfc2961:
>
> I don't have a strong opinion on or objection to this document upd= ating
> rfc2961.=C2=A0 To have this document be an update, I do think we and i= t need
> to be clear on what exactly is being updated in 2961. After rereading<= br> > both it's unclear to me what you see is being updated. As best I c= an
> see, this document basically relates to 2961 in that it says (a) use t= he
> reliable message delivery defined in 2961 and (b) restates that 2205 > refresh processing of path and resv messages still applies after a rap= id
> retry period expires and (c) sending acks moves from recommended to > required.=C2=A0
>
> What did I miss?
>
> FWIW I think (a) and (c) are requirements of this document not 2961 an= d
> (b) seems like an informative statement that the basic refresh
> processing rules of rfc2205 still apply.
>
> --
> [PB] This is all about how we interpret (b). RFC2961 doesn=E2=80=99t e= xplicitly
> state what happens the rapid retry period expires. The current draft > explains what needs to be done. Does this warrant an official update t= o
> RFC2961?=C2=A0

The RFC doesn't generally review unmodified RFC2205 processing, = nor has
that been the normal practice when defining RSVP extensions.=C2=A0 An
informative statement in this draft certainly would do no harm if you
feel that it is needed, but I don't think it raises to the level of an<= br> update.

Thanks,
Lou


> =E2=80=94
>
> Thanks
> Lou
>
> On October 1, 2017 9:14:15 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com
> <mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Elwyn, Hi!
>>
>> Please see inline for responses.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Pavan
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com
>> <mailto:elwynd@dial.pipex.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi, Pavan.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I've checked through the changes in -07 and= I think all is good as
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0regards fixing the 'major issue', restu= cturing s2 and fixing the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0nits - thanks.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] Great!
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Looking at the IESG comments I think you have c= overed most of
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0them=C2=A0 except it would be good to put a poi= nter to Appendix A into
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the intro of s2.=C2=A0
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0With reference to Appendix A(d), it would be he= lpful to s/periodic
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0retransmission interval/Periodic Retransmission= Interval/ and
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0possibly give it a name (Rpri or some such)=C2= =A0 in s2.3 and Appendix
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A(d).=C2=A0 Adding the name of the interval aft= er "retransmission of
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0these on a slower timer" migt mak it clear= er also.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] Ok. We'll add a pointer to the Appendix and also find = a short
>> form for the periodic retransmission interval.
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0However,=C2=A0 I think you still need to addres= s all three of the minor
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0issues:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Capability object:=C2=A0 A 'basic' im= plementation of RFC 2209/RFC3209
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0will not include the RFC5063 extensions.=C2=A0<= br> >>
>>
>> [Pavan] I think you meant RFC2205 and not RFC2209.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think you should therefore make it explicit t= hat a prerequisite
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for your extensions is an implementation of the= Capability object
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0as specified in RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , = making it clear
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that this does not require any of the other fun= ctionality of RFC
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A05063, especially no support for the S bit in th= e Capabilities.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capability Object"= needs a separate
>> prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our A= D take a
>> call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using=
>> Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558"= also then
>> need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate section = for
>> RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of=
>> certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and &q= uot;Node Hellos",
>> there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarif= ied. We
>> could just add a statement in Section 4.1 saying that you don'= t need
>> to set any other flags. Would that address your concern about the<= br> >> ambiguity regarding the "Graceful Restart" bits?
>>
>> OLD
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique >> MUST set a new
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY ob= ject signaled in Hello
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 messages.
>> NEW
>>
>>=C2=A0 An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set = a new
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY ob= ject signaled in Hello
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 messages. This MAY be the only flag set in the object= .
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 Your response regarding what happens if= a peer initially
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0acknowledges that it supports the new capabilit= ies by setting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I/F bits in the Capability and sends some messa= ges with the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit set, but then sto= ps setting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't reall= y address the problem.=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0Would this mean that the receiver should = assume that the peer can
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0no longer support the extensions?=C2=A0
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] Yes.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Is this a permanent state or could the peer sta= rt setting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and restore= initial
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0functionality - or should this just not be allo= wed.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionali= ty.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think you need to think through what happes i= n the various
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0possible cases and explain what an implementati= on should do in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0each case.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality >> enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled,= the
>> implementation does everything that is specified as required for t= he
>> given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation doe= sn't
>> employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'l= l try
>> and add some text to make this obvious.
>> =C2=A0
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- So, I have done my homework and checked back = on what happens
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0when there is no acknowledgement of refreshes. = The relevant
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0parameter is the cleanup time.=C2=A0 However, t= his leaves us with a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0problem.. the cleanup time is typically set as = a multiple of the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0refresh interval (9 times seems to be the defau= lt) - indeed I see
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that the interface configuration on a Juniper r= outer (!) actually
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sets it by asking for the multiple rather than = an absolute value.=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wth the new dispensation in ths document, there= are two time
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0periods involved:=C2=A0 I think you do need to = respecify how to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0calculate a sensible cleanup interval, and note= that the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0retransmissions will then halt after this inter= val.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry&= quot; timer
>> (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP >> instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through
>> https://tools.ietf.org/= html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01
>> <https://urldefen= se.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-= 2Dravisingh-2Dteas-2Drsvp-2Dsetup-2Dretry-2D01&d=3DDwMDaQ&= ;c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DCFH= VfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=3Dk7e-cloxf90XW9b_= KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=3DXXwwGPXiCQhVIgNDbiHxKEuHs1fkm= MoiGQsHcQ33ZQE&e=3D>
>> for a detailed account of setup retry timer= , issues associated with it
>> and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3)=
>> that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from what y= ou
>> are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not ju= st
>> PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure=
>> discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid
>> retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In Sect= ion
>> 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry limi= t is
>> reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid >> retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this ne= eds
>> to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding st= ate
>> is torn down.
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Does this last modification constitute an updat= e of RFC 2209?=C2=A0 I
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0am not sure -consult your AD!
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] RFC2209 is an informational document that provides guidanc= e on
>> the various data-models and procedures needed for an implementatio= n to
>> be RFC2205 compliant. Most of the content in RFC2209 is outdated >> (imho). No one has had the inclination over the years to update th= is
>> and we don't intend to do this either.
>>
>> [Pavan] Reading through the various questions/comments from the IE= SG,
>> I'm convinced that this document needs to formally update RFC2= 961.
>> We'll go ahead and do that if the shepherd and our AD have no = objections.
>> =C2=A0
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Regards,
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Elwyn=C2=A0
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sent from Samsung tablet.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-------- Original message --------
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com>> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date: 28/09/2017 03:48 (GMT+00:00)
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0To: Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:elwynd@dial.pipex.com>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cc: gen-art= @ietf.org <mailto:gen-art@ietf.o= rg>,
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org<= /a>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.al= l@ietf.org>, ietf
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<ietf@ietf.= org <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>&g= t;, teas@ietf.org
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:tea= s@ietf.org>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart las= t call review of
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Elwyn, Hi!
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks for the detailed review and the text sug= gestions. We just
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0posted a new revision (-07) to address the conc= erns listed below.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Please go through the new diffs
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-= scaling-rec-07
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__ww= w.ietf.org_rfcdiff-3Furl2-3Ddraft-2Dietf-2Dteas-2Drsvp-2Dte-2Dsca= ling-2Drec-2D07&d=3DDwMDaQ&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeM= K-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DCFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm= 7E0WVbiS8&m=3Dk7e-cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&= ;s=3DxuSuAQ7BlTuE-ue-3t5WtAzMMA9cBuBNzk4iM7yoTHs&e=3D>= )
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and let us know if additional = changes are required.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Please see inline for further responses (prefix= ed VPB).
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Regards,
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-Pavan
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Elwyn Davies >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<elwynd@dial.pipex.com <mailto:elwynd@dial.pipex.com>> wrote:
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reviewer: Elwyn Davies
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Review result: Not Ready
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewe= r for this draft. The General
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Area
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all= IETF documents being processed
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0by the IESG for the IETF Chair.= =C2=A0 Please treat these comments just
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0like any other last call comments= .
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0For more information, please see = the FAQ at
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<https://t= rac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenArtfaq
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__trac.ietf.org_trac_gen_wiki_= GenArtfaq&d=3DDwMDaQ&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3= voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DCFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&a= mp;m=3Dk7e-cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=3D7= EVfFwYHvGi6M8T035d7tGPQVwgnEJq_TzB3RddVx2Q&e=3D>>.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Document: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te= -scaling-rec-06
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reviewer: Elwyn Davies
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Review Date: 2017-09-22
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IETF LC End Date: 2017-09-22
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IESG Telechat date: 2017-09-28 >>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Summary: Not ready, primarily bec= ause the title and
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0presentation give the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0impression that the content is re= ally a BCP when it isn't.=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This conceals the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0considerable amount of tweaking o= f RFC 2961 functionality and
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0addition of new
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RSVP Capabilities described in th= e document.=C2=A0 There are also a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0couple of minor
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0issues that need to be sorted out= .
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Major issues:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title and way proposals are prese= nted:=C2=A0 The document defines
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0two new
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0'capabilities' for RSVP-T= E and is indeed (as specified in the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document header)
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0correctly intended for Standards = Track status.=C2=A0 However the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0title and the whole
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of the meat of the document in Se= ction 2 presents the proposals as
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0'recommendations' which s= ays to me that I am expecting a BCP
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0where a profile of
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0available options from existing s= tandards is recommended as
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the best choice for
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0implementation and deployment.=C2= =A0 In my opinion, the title would
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be better as
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0something like "Additional C= apabilities Designed to Improve
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the Scalability of
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RSVP-TE Deployments".=C2=A0 = Whilst the proposals are based on the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0techniques in RFC
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02961, the document *requires* the= implementor to conform to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rules that were
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0optional and constrains configura= ble values to different
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ranges in order to be
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0able to deliver the capabilities = defined in the document as
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0well as defining
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0new RSVP extensions modifying som= e of the behaviour defined in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RFC 2961.=C2=A0 Thus
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0although some of the rules could = be met by choosing particular
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0values within
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the RFC 2961 set, the use of MUST= , tweaking of functionality
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and variation of
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ranges takes it well beyond a set= of recommendations for RFC
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02961 options
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0selections.=C2=A0 In view of this= Section 1 needs to be written as
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0an introduction
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to the definitions of the new cap= abilities rather than
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0advocacy for selection
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of RFC 2961 options and the impli= cation that the techniques
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mentioned in the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0last paragraph of s1 are just a m= atter of selecting a profile
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of option values.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0In actuality new protocol v= alues are introduced and ss2.2 and
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02.3 define novel
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0extensions to RSVP beyond what is= available for RFC 2961 and
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0requiring
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0modification to basic RFC 2961 fu= nctionality..
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] We changed the title to "Techniques = to Improve the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Scalability of RSVP-TE Deployments". We al= so tweaked the text in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the introduction section as suggested. Please s= ee if the new set
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of diffs address the comment above.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Minor issues:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Interaction with RFC 5063:=C2=A0 = The document does not explicitly
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0state that an
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0implementation would need to supp= ort (at least) the extra
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0capability obect
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0defined in s4.2 of RFC 5063.=C2= =A0 Some words about interaction
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0with RFC 5063 are
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0probably required in that s4.2.1 = of RFC 5063 rather assumes
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that if there is a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0capability object, by default its= S bit will be set.
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] The CAPABILITY object in RFC5063 is meant= for generic use
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and can be used even when there are no Graceful= Restart extensions
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0in play (even when no GR flags are set). As far= as we can tell,
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0there is nothing in RFC5063 that precludes this= . We added a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0reference to RFC5063 when the new Capability fl= ags are introduced.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Would this be sufficient to address this concer= n?
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Behaviour if a node stops setting= Refresh-Reduction-Capable
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0bit:=C2=A0 The last para
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of s2 in RFC 2961 discusses behav= iour if a node stops setting
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this bit in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0messages.=C2=A0 What would happen= with the extensions defined in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this document if
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this happened while either of the= extensions is in use?=C2=A0 As a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0matter of
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0interest, if a peer offers the ca= pabilities defined in this
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft, is it
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0possible or sensible for it to st= op setting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0without stopping offering the ext= ensions?
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB]=C2=A0 If a peer sets the I or F bit in th= e CAPABILITY object but
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0does not set the Refresh-Reduction-capable bit,= then the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0corresponding functionality ("RI-RSVP"= ; or "Per-Peer Flow-Control")
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0is not activated for that peer. In other words,= resetting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit immediately makes= the node incapable
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of supporting the two capabilities discussed in= this document.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This is covered in Sections 3.1 and 4.1 ( -07 v= ersion).
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.1.3, para 2: As specified, it = appears that the 'slower
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0timer' transmission
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of Path and Resv messages can go = on indefinitely if no ack
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0arrives.=C2=A0 What puts
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0an end to this repetition?=C2=A0 = [It may be that I have forgotten
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0how basic RSVP
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0works, but since this is altering= the behaviour it would be
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0good to explain how
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0it terminates, and whether this r= equires any additional
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0modification to timers.]
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB]=C2=A0 There is nothing new about Path and= Resv messages getting
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-s= tate signaling
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0behavior) -- all that this section does is disc= uss how these
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0transmissions are paced in the absence of an ac= k. The slower timer
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0transmission will go on until either an ack is = received (at which
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0point the regular "refresh interval" = comes into play) or the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0corresponding LSP instance state is torn down.<= br> >>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Nits/editorial comments:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Abstract: RSVP-TE is not a 'w= ell-known' abbreviation:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s/RSVP-TE/RSVP Traffic
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Engineering (RSVP-TE)/
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Abstract and s1, first para:=C2= =A0 This para is not future proof.=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Suggest:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0OLD:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0The scale at which R= SVP-TE [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(LSPs) get
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0deployed is growing = continually and there is considerable
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0onus on
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0RSVP-TE implementati= ons across the board to keep up with this
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0increasing demand in= scale.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0NEW:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0At the time of writi= ng, networks which utilise RSVP Traffic
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Engineering
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0(RSVP-TE) [RFC3209] = Label Switched Paths (LSPs) are
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0encountering limitations
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0in the ability of im= plementations to support the growth in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the number of LSPs
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0deployed.=C2=A0 This= document defines two additional RSVP-TE
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0extensions that
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0are intended to redu= ce the number of messages needed to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0maintain RSVP-TE
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0soft state in router= s and hence allow implementations to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0support larger
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0scale deployments. >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ENDS
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Note:=C2=A0 Omit reference from A= bstract.
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s1, para 2: s/under certain/beyon= d a certain/
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s1, para 3: s/makes a set of conc= rete implementation
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0recommendations/defines
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0two extensions/; s/- push higher/= by increasing/; s/maintain
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0LSP state./maintain
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0LSP state by reducing the number = of messages needed./
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Abstract, para 2 and s1, last par= a:=C2=A0 [Omit reference from
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Abstract]
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0OLD:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document advoca= tes the use of a couple of techniques -
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"Refresh-
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0Interval Independent= RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Flow-Control" -
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0for significantly cu= tting down the amount of processing cycles
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0required to maintain= LSP state.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0NEW:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document define= s two RSVP Capabilities [RFC5063] "Refresh-
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0Interval Independent= RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Flow-Control"
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0that will cut down t= he number of messsages and processing
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cycles
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0required to maintain= LSP state.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ENDS
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s1, last para: Add new penultimat= e sentence:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0Note that the "= Per-Peer Flow-Control" capability requires
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the "RI-RSVP"
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0capability as a prer= equisite.
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s1, last para: s/RECOMMENDED/reco= mmended/ - this isn't a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0recommendation about
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the protocol on the wire.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Subdivision of s2:=C2=A0 The issu= es regarding the nature of the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document would be
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0helped by altering s2 into four t= op level sections, thus: s2:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Requirement for
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RFC 2961 Refresh Overhead Reducti= on Support and Specific
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Option Choices (from
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.1) s3: Requirement for RFC 506= 3 Capability Object support
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(see Minor Issues
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0above) s4: Refresh-Interval Indep= endent RSVP Capability (from
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.3) s5:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Per-Peer RSVP Flow Control Capabi= lity (from s2.4) Subsequent
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0major sections
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0then renumbered as s6 onwards. Re= ferences to s2.x will need to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be updated
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0throughout.
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] We subdivided s2 into 3 top level section= s. We did not add a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0separate section for discussing RFC5063 Capabil= ity Object support.
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.1 (would be introduction of ne= w s2):
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0OLD:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0The implementation r= ecommendations discussed in this
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0section are
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0based on the proposa= ls made in [RFC2961] and act as
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0prerequisites for
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0implementing the tec= hniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and 2.3.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0NEW:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0The Capabilities def= ined in Sections 4 and 5 of this
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document are based on
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0proposals made in [R= FC2961].=C2=A0 Implementations of these
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Capabilities will
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0need to support the = RSVP messages and techniques defined in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[RFC2961] as set
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0out in Section 2.1 [= was 2.1.1] with
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0some minor modificat= ions and alterations to recommended
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0time intervals and
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0iteration counts as = defined in the remainder of this section.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ENDS
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.1.1, title and para 1 [will be= s2.1]:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0OLD:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02.1.1.=C2=A0 Basic Prerequisites<= br> >>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0An implementation th= at supports the techniques discussed in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sections
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A02.2 and 2.3 must mee= t certain basic prerequisites.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0NEW:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02.1.=C2=A0 Required Functionality= from RFC 2961 to be Implemented
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0An implementation th= at supports the capabiities discussed
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0in Sections
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A04 and 5 must provide= a large subset of the functionality
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0described
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0in [RFC2961] as foll= ows:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ENDS
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.1.2, para 2 [will be s2.2]: s/= techniques discussed in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sections 2.2 and
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02.3/Capabilities defined in Secti= ons 4 and 5/
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.1.2, para 2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESS= AGE_ID/
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.2, para 1: s/improvement on tr= ansmission
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0overhead/improvement of
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0transmission overhead/
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.2, para 1: s/proposes sufficie= nt recommendations/sets out
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0additional
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0requirements/
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.2, last bullet: Add a referenc= e to the proposed new Section
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03 that discusses
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the Capability object.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Added a direct reference to RFC5063
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.2.1, last para: s/set Refresh-= Reduction-Capable bit in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0common header/set the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in = the common header/
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.3, para 1: s/set of recommenda= tions/functionality/;
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s/provide/provides/;
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s/RSVP-TE control plane congestio= n/a significant portion of
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the RSVP-TE control
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0message load/
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0s2.3.2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/<= br> >>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>
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Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2827/ Sudha On 10/6/17, 12:38 PM, "Lou Berger" wrote: > >Authors, Contributors, WG, > >As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > >Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > >Please state either: > >"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" >or >"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > >If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=20 >(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? > >If yes to the above, please state either: > >"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" >or >"No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > >If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think=20 >appropriate. > >If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the=20 >above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are=20 >aware of any relevant IPR. 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(https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2827/) > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 1:08 AM > To: Harish Sitaraman ; Vishnu Pavan Beeram > ; inaminei@google.com; msiva@cisco.com > Cc: TEAS WG > Subject: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-= 01 >=20 >=20 > Authors, Contributors, WG, >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? >=20 > Please state either: >=20 > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? >=20 > If yes to the above, please state either: >=20 > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" >=20 > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. 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For more information, please see the RFCs listed above > and > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp- > 3A__trac.tools.ietf.org_group_iesg_trac_wiki_IntellectualProperty&d=3DDwI= C > Ag&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK- > ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DiEQmXlRGWdNbtvVr6ghcatwLYhZUbMF-u63wi_- > VTtA&m=3DznixTQCSSnTe3a7LlGp5g0-cw6m0- > jDCW6kTgZrcCT0&s=3DWkbHxUkBBTwwTyMakGEMJnD2Jdaqu7EfuhHrfFtyop > M&e=3D . >=20 > Thank you, > TEAS WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- > 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_teas&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Sc > bfh0UjBXeMK- > ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DiEQmXlRGWdNbtvVr6ghcatwLYhZUbMF-u63wi_- > VTtA&m=3DznixTQCSSnTe3a7LlGp5g0-cw6m0-jDCW6kTgZrcCT0&s=3D- > QI0gmQo63Yfpo1d6_61bON0yQpIMF5AI7y2ZpC7l4c&e=3D From nobody Sat Oct 7 01:03:28 2017 Return-Path: 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17:32:03.5876 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VI1PR0701MB2479 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2017 17:32:25 -0000 Hello No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. regards, Martin Le 06/10/2017 à 21:38, Lou Berger a écrit : > > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S > TO LINES. > > If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed > as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under > the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are > aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from > participating in any contribution or discussion related to your > undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above > and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > TEAS WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Sun Oct 8 13:24:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2601348A2 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 13:24:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.649 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, INVALID_MSGID=0.568, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7A7uXsi-Dxbf for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 13:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B830A13430D for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 13:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DQD07781; Sun, 08 Oct 2017 20:24:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.301.0; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 21:24:22 +0100 Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.207]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.215]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 13:24:10 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , Zhenghaomian , Daniele Ceccarelli , "byyun@etri.re.kr" , Oscar Gonzalez De Dios , "jongyoon.shin@sk.com" , "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT)" , Dhruv Dhody , "Zhangxian (Xian)" CC: "teas@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 Thread-Index: AQHTPugodtX4w7iGfkmG/UtMCMlXj6LaaPuR Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 20:24:09 +0000 Message-ID: E8577176-E6C8-430F-973A-12620770BC42 References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_E8577176E6C8430F973A12620770BC42_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090204.59DA8977.014B, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.4.207, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 04ae8a0e958d45bf5e12032e0e967089 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2017 20:24:30 -0000 --_000_E8577176E6C8430F973A12620770BC42_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best regards, Young From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram To:Leeyoung,Zhenghaomian,Daniele Ceccarelli,byyun@etri.re.kr,Oscar Gonzalez= De Dios,jongyoon.shin@sk.com,Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT),Dhruv Dhody,Zhan= gxian (Xian), Cc:teas@ietf.org, Date:2017-10-06 16:14:55 Subject:Regarding IPR on draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, TEAS WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. --_000_E8577176E6C8430F973A12620770BC42_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Best regards,
Young
From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram
To:Leeyoung,Zhenghaomian,Daniele= Ceccarelli,byyun@etri.re.kr,Oscar Gonzalez De Dios,jongyoon.shin@sk.com,Be= lotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT),Dhruv Dhody,Zhangxian (Xian),
Cc:teas@ietf.org,
Date:2017-10-06 16:14:55
Subject:Regarding IPR on draft-z= hang-teas-actn-yang-05

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S
TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/= group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
response.
--_000_E8577176E6C8430F973A12620770BC42_-- From nobody Sun Oct 8 13:25:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7ED134301 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 13:25:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.649 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, INVALID_MSGID=0.568, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E7iDaF5lo7_P for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 13:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E198F1332D7 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 13:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DXC12966; Sun, 08 Oct 2017 20:25:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.39) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.301.0; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 21:25:08 +0100 Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.207]) by SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.15]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 13:24:56 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , Italo Busi , "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT)" , "victor.lopezalvarez@telefonica.com" , Oscar Gonzalez De Dios , Anurag Sharma , "shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn" , "ricard.vilalta@cttc.es" , "karthik.sethuraman@necam.com" , "Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE)" , Daniele Ceccarelli , "Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE)" , "gianmarco.bruno@ericsson.com" , "francesco.lazzeria@ericsson.com" , Carlo Perocchio CC: "teas@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 Thread-Index: AQHTPuanj7Yx4+u+fUOV+xIWf6bLlKLaaTSj Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 20:24:55 +0000 Message-ID: BA2B9411-0D4E-43CA-A41A-D30BF0DB72BF References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BA2B94110D4E43CAA41AD30BF0DB72BF_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090202.59DA89A5.00EB, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.4.207, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 02f61ebbb771bb1fd90e659907070384 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2017 20:25:17 -0000 --_000_BA2B94110D4E43CAA41AD30BF0DB72BF_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best regards, Young From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram To:Italo Busi,Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT),victor.lopezalvarez@telefonica.c= om,Oscar Gonzalez De Dios,Anurag Sharma,shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn,ricard.vila= lta@cttc.es,karthik.sethuraman@necam.com,Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE),Danie= le Ceccarelli,Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE),gianmarco.bruno@ericsson.com,fran= cesco.lazzeria@ericsson.com,Leeyoung,Carlo Perocchio, Cc:teas@ietf.org, Date:2017-10-06 16:04:09 Subject:Regarding IPR on draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, TEAS WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. --_000_BA2B94110D4E43CAA41AD30BF0DB72BF_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Best regards,
Young
From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram
To:Italo Busi,Belotti, Sergio (N= okia - IT),victor.lopezalvarez@telefonica.com,Oscar Gonzalez De Dios,Anurag= Sharma,shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn,ricard.vilalta@cttc.es,karthik.sethuraman@n= ecam.com,Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE),Daniele Ceccarelli,Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE),gianmarco.bruno@ericsso= n.com,francesco.lazzeria@ericsson.com,Leeyoung,Carlo Perocchio,
Cc:teas@ietf.org,
Date:2017-10-06 16:04:09
Subject:Regarding IPR on draft-b= usibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

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aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
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2017 22:20:57 -0500 Received: from DLNCACITEXMBX02.na-idm.na-gad.nec.com ([fe80::adab:b5d6:48ad:161c]) by DLNCACITEXMBX02.na-idm.na-gad.nec.com ([fe80::adab:b5d6:48ad:161c%12]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Sun, 8 Oct 2017 22:20:56 -0500 From: "Sethuraman, Karthik" To: Leeyoung , Vishnu Pavan Beeram , Italo Busi , "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)" , Victor Lopez , Oscar Gonzalez De Dios , Anurag Sharma , "shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn" , Ricard Vilalta , "Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)" , Daniele Ceccarelli , "Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE)" , "gianmarco.bruno@ericsson.com" , "francesco.lazzeria@ericsson.com" , Carlo Perocchio CC: "teas@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 Thread-Index: AQHTPuajAEM1naeBIUOR2h7m3ZELBKLavQWAgAAgXBw= Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 03:20:56 +0000 Message-ID: <1507519253963.31148@necam.com> References: , BA2B9411-0D4E-43CA-A41A-D30BF0DB72BF In-Reply-To: BA2B9411-0D4E-43CA-A41A-D30BF0DB72BF Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [143.101.250.90] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_150751925396331148necamcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 03:21:00 -0000 --_000_150751925396331148necamcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Regards Karthik ________________________________ From: Leeyoung Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 4:24:55 PM To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram; Italo Busi; Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT); victor.l= opezalvarez@telefonica.com; Oscar Gonzalez De Dios; Anurag Sharma; shiyan49= @chinaunicom.cn; ricard.vilalta@cttc.es; Sethuraman, Karthik; Scharf, Micha= el (Nokia - DE); Daniele Ceccarelli; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE); gianmarco= .bruno@ericsson.com; francesco.lazzeria@ericsson.com; Carlo Perocchio Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best regards, Young From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram To:Italo Busi,Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT),victor.lopezalvarez@telefonica.c= om,Oscar Gonzalez De Dios,Anurag Sharma,shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn,ricard.vila= lta@cttc.es,karthik.sethuraman@necam.com,Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE),Danie= le Ceccarelli,Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE),gianmarco.bruno@ericsson.com,fran= cesco.lazzeria@ericsson.com,Leeyoung,Carlo Perocchio, Cc:teas@ietf.org, Date:2017-10-06 16:04:09 Subject:Regarding IPR on draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, TEAS WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. --_000_150751925396331148necamcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Regards
Karthik
From: Leeyoung <leeyoung= @huawei.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 4:24:55 PM
To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram; Italo Busi; Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT); v= ictor.lopezalvarez@telefonica.com; Oscar Gonzalez De Dios; Anurag Sharma; s= hiyan49@chinaunicom.cn; ricard.vilalta@cttc.es; Sethuraman, Karthik; Scharf= , Michael (Nokia - DE); Daniele Ceccarelli; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE); gianmarco.bruno@ericsson.com; fra= ncesco.lazzeria@ericsson.com; Carlo Perocchio
Cc: teas@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computati= on-03
 
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Best regards,
Young
From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram
To:Italo Busi,Belotti, Sergio (N= okia - IT),victor.lopezalvarez@telefonica.com,Oscar Gonzalez De Dios,Anurag= Sharma,shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn,ricard.vilalta@cttc.es,karthik.sethuraman@n= ecam.com,Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE),Daniele Ceccarelli,Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE),gianmarco.bruno@ericsso= n.com,francesco.lazzeria@ericsson.com,Leeyoung,Carlo Perocchio,
Cc:teas@ietf.org,
Date:2017-10-06 16:04:09
Subject:Regarding IPR on draft-b= usibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S
TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/= group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

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No, I'm not aware of= any IPR that applies to this draft

Regards,
Dhruv

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017= at 2:44 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>= wrote:
Authors, Contrib= utors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

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appropriate.

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above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
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Thanks,
Dieter


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Malis" Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 17:05:35 -0400 Message-ID: To: Lou Berger Cc: Daniele Ceccarelli , "teas@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113c2a027cbbb7055b238ecf" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:05:59 -0000 --001a113c2a027cbbb7055b238ecf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lou, I=E2=80=99ve read the updated draft, and it=E2=80=99s a good overall cleanu= p of the text to make the concepts easier to understand. My only major comment is that section 4 could become another subsection of section 3, but that=E2=80=99s = minor. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Daniele, Authors, > > Thank you for this substantive update. > > All, > > There has been a reasonable pass at cleaning up much of the text - and a > fair bit has changed, so please review and comment -- even if it's just > to say that you've read it and thing the changes are beneficial. > > Thanks, > > Lou (and Pavan) > > On 10/4/2017 11:29 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: > > Dear WG, > > > > we submitted a new version of the ACTN framework draft which does not > introduce or modify any concept but that is the result of a heavy text > re-adjustment (thanks a lot Adrian for the huge effort) to improve > readability and get rid of duplicated and redundant text. > > > > The authors and contributors think this is ready for WG LC and would > appreciate your comments to the list. > > > > BR > > Daniele (for the co-authors) > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > >> drafts@ietf.org > >> Sent: mercoled=C3=AC 4 ottobre 2017 17:15 > >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> Cc: teas@ietf.org > >> Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > >> > >> > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and > Signaling > >> WG of the IETF. > >> > >> Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of > Traffic Engineered > >> Networks > >> Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > >> Young Lee > >> Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > >> Pages : 37 > >> Date : 2017-10-04 > >> > >> Abstract: > >> Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > >> facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They > >> also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > >> configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > >> represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > >> networking. > >> > >> Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied > >> to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > >> single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > >> operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > >> the network resources. > >> > >> This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > >> Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > >> > >> > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > >> > >> There are also htmlized versions available at: > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-0= 8 > >> > >> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > >> > >> > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > >> > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --001a113c2a027cbbb7055b238ecf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lou,

I=E2=80=99ve read the updated draf= t, and it=E2=80=99s a good overall cleanup of the text to make the concepts= easier to understand. My only major comment is that section 4 could become= another subsection of section 3, but that=E2=80=99s minor.=C2=A0

Cheers,
Andy


On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:17= PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
Daniele, Authors,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thank you for this substantive update.

All,

There has been a reasonable pass at cleaning up much of the text - and a fair bit has changed, so please review and comment -- even if it's just=
to say that you've read it and thing the changes are beneficial.

Thanks,

Lou (and Pavan)

On 10/4/2017 11:29 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:
> Dear WG,
>
> we submitted a new version of the ACTN framework draft which does not = introduce or modify any concept but that is the result of a heavy text re-a= djustment (thanks a lot Adrian for the huge effort) to improve readability = and get rid of duplicated and redundant text.
>
> The authors and contributors think this is ready for WG LC and would a= ppreciate your comments to the list.
>
> BR
> Daniele (for the co-authors)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Teas [mailto:teas-b= ounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-
>> drafts@ietf.org
>> Sent: mercoled=C3=AC 4 ottobre 2017 17:15
>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org=
>> Cc: teas@ietf.org
>> Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08= .txt
>>
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts= directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture = and Signaling
>> WG of the IETF.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered<= br> >> Networks
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: Daniele Ceccarelli
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Young Lee
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-ie= tf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= : 37
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = : 2017-10-04
>>
>> Abstract:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechani= sms to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 facilitate the separation of the data plane and contr= ol plane. They
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 also have a range of management and provisioning prot= ocols to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 configure and activate network resources.=C2=A0 These= mechanisms
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 represent key technologies for enabling flexible and = dynamic
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 networking.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Abstraction of network resources is a technique that = can be applied
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 to a single network domain or across multiple domains= to create a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 single virtualized network that is under the control = of a network
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 operator or the customer of the operator that actuall= y owns
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the network resources.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This document provides a framework for Abstraction an= d Control of
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN).
>>
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/
>>
>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08
>> https://datatracker.= ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/r= fcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08
>>
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>
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>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
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I think the early sections are very informative and readable.  My one substantive comment is that I think it would be helpful to future model developers to provide an overview of how you see this work will be extended to support technology specific extensions, e.g., new control technologies, new/tech link config parameters/statistics, technology specific (or not) switching constraints, etc.    I don' want this to delay the work, but I also don't want to find out in 6 months that the model isn't sufficiently extendable. What do you think? ** Editorial comments: - TE should be spelled out in the title and first use in the abstract and introduction - This should be moved to section 1.1:   Conventions used in this document    The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",    "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this    document are to be interpreted as described in RFC-2119 [RFC2119]. - reverences to 6020 should be replaced 7950 - Section 1.1   It's unclear to me how you selected this particular terms and I suspect we're going to see many comments on the need to expand this list.  Perhaps just state that reader is assumed to be familiar with the terminology and concepts in TE rfcs, e.g., perhaps just add something like:    The reader is assumed to be familiar with general body of work captured in     currently available TE related RFCs.  RFC7926 serves as a good starting point     for those who may be less familiar with Traffic Engineering related RFCs. - It would be good to add references the first time you refer to a well-known concept, e.g., Multi-layer TE [RFC5512], SRLGs, ODUk, etc.. - Section 1.2 should be replaced by a reference to draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams - s/decorate/annotate and s/decorating/annotating - I'm not sure how useful the 30 odd pages of tree diagrams in section 6 are in this document.  Perhaps move to an appendix?  I'm really not sure... - Please replace the reference to   draft-clemm-netconf-yang-push with draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push - please make [YANG-SCHEDULE] and informative reference That's it, Lou From nobody Tue Oct 10 01:42:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F8D134AC2 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 01:42:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.888 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Kvd2Vcr7pde for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 01:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from telmad-lavadora-l1mail2.puc.rediris.es (te-l1mail2-out05a.puc.rediris.es [IPv6:2001:720:418:ca03::87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F25B134AC0 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 01:41:45 -0700 (PDT) X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2BNAABlhtxZjNA+WFRbGQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBBwEBAQEBhD9?= =?us-ascii?q?uJ4N6ih+PdIF2li8OggAEChgBCoUYAoRDPxgBAgEBAQEBAQETAQEBJleFHQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QECAQEBIUsXBAkCEQEDAQEBJwMCAicfAwYIEwYCAQGKGAwBC4onnWeCJyeKfQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQcBAQEBAQEigy2CAoFRgWorgn6DMoEWBINLgmEFoTWCLoUwjQmCFFuFFINaJ?= =?us-ascii?q?IcKiheDZoddgTkPEDeBDzIhWSqEYTkQDIFpPjaJQAEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.42,504,1500933600"; d="scan'208,217";a="140275094" Received: from leo.cttc.es ([84.88.62.208]) by smtpout.puc.rediris.es with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 10 Oct 2017 10:41:42 +0200 Received: from [10.1.16.59] (pcrvilalta.cttc.es [10.1.16.59]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leo.cttc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED7251FF19 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:41:41 +0200 (CEST) To: teas@ietf.org References: <150713011944.23895.1498124220099529967@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Ricard Vilalta Message-ID: <423f72db-ae48-153d-0ddb-cbd169bf2ffa@cttc.es> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:41:43 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4F3DF9E1943A6B8BA0863D1B" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 08:42:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4F3DF9E1943A6B8BA0863D1B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit All, I have read the new version and the changes have clearly improved it. Best, Ricard El 09/10/2017 a les 23:05, Andrew G. Malis ha escrit: > Lou, > > I’ve read the updated draft, and it’s a good overall cleanup of the > text to make the concepts easier to understand. My only major comment > is that section 4 could become another subsection of section 3, but > that’s minor. > > Cheers, > Andy > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Lou Berger > wrote: > > Daniele, Authors, > >     Thank you for this substantive update. > > All, > > There has been a reasonable pass at cleaning up much of the text - > and a > fair bit has changed, so please review and comment -- even if it's > just > to say that you've read it and thing the changes are beneficial. > > Thanks, > > Lou (and Pavan) > > On 10/4/2017 11:29 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: > > Dear WG, > > > > we submitted a new version of the ACTN framework draft which > does not introduce or modify any concept but that is the result of > a heavy text re-adjustment (thanks a lot Adrian for the huge > effort) to improve readability and get rid of duplicated and > redundant text. > > > > The authors and contributors think this is ready for WG LC and > would appreciate your comments to the list. > > > > BR > > Daniele (for the co-authors) > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org > ] On Behalf Of internet- > >> drafts@ietf.org > >> Sent: mercoledì 4 ottobre 2017 17:15 > >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> Cc: teas@ietf.org > >> Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > >> > >> > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > Internet-Drafts directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering > Architecture and Signaling > >> WG of the IETF. > >> > >>         Title           : Framework for Abstraction and Control > of Traffic Engineered > >> Networks > >>         Authors         : Daniele Ceccarelli > >>                           Young Lee > >>      Filename        : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > >>      Pages           : 37 > >>      Date            : 2017-10-04 > >> > >> Abstract: > >>    Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > >>    facilitate the separation of the data plane and control > plane. They > >>    also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > >>    configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > >>    represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > >>    networking. > >> > >>    Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be > applied > >>    to a single network domain or across multiple domains to > create a > >>    single virtualized network that is under the control of a > network > >>    operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > >>    the network resources. > >> > >>    This document provides a framework for Abstraction and > Control of > >>    Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > >> > >> > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > > >> > >> There are also htmlized versions available at: > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > > >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > > >> > >> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > > >> > >> > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time > of submission > >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org . > >> > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas -- Dr. Ricard Vilalta Senior Researcher Optical Networks and Systems Department Communication Networks Division Centre Tecnològic de Telecomunicacions de Catalunya (CTTC/CERCA). --------------4F3DF9E1943A6B8BA0863D1B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

All,

I have read the new version and the changes have clearly improved it.

Best,

Ricard


El 09/10/2017 a les 23:05, Andrew G. Malis ha escrit:
Lou,

I’ve read the updated draft, and it’s a good overall cleanup of the text to make the concepts easier to understand. My only major comment is that section 4 could become another subsection of section 3, but that’s minor. 

Cheers,
Andy


On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
Daniele, Authors,

    Thank you for this substantive update.

All,

There has been a reasonable pass at cleaning up much of the text - and a
fair bit has changed, so please review and comment -- even if it's just
to say that you've read it and thing the changes are beneficial.

Thanks,

Lou (and Pavan)

On 10/4/2017 11:29 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:
> Dear WG,
>
> we submitted a new version of the ACTN framework draft which does not introduce or modify any concept but that is the result of a heavy text re-adjustment (thanks a lot Adrian for the huge effort) to improve readability and get rid of duplicated and redundant text.
>
> The authors and contributors think this is ready for WG LC and would appreciate your comments to the list.
>
> BR
> Daniele (for the co-authors)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-
>> drafts@ietf.org
>> Sent: mercoledì 4 ottobre 2017 17:15
>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>> Cc: teas@ietf.org
>> Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt
>>
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling
>> WG of the IETF.
>>
>>         Title           : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered
>> Networks
>>         Authors         : Daniele Ceccarelli
>>                           Young Lee
>>      Filename        : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt
>>      Pages           : 37
>>      Date            : 2017-10-04
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to
>>    facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They
>>    also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to
>>    configure and activate network resources.  These mechanisms
>>    represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic
>>    networking.
>>
>>    Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied
>>    to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a
>>    single virtualized network that is under the control of a network
>>    operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns
>>    the network resources.
>>
>>    This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of
>>    Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN).
>>
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/
>>
>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08
>>
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas
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Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150772975732.24828.11096455689170666773@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 06:49:17 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:49:17 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Information Model for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) Authors : Young Lee Sergio Belotti Dhruv Dhody Daniele Ceccarelli Bin Yeong Yoon Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2017-10-11 Abstract: This draft provides an information model for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered (TE) networks (ACTN). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Oct 11 06:53:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726D51342E7; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150772999042.24775.14611218449663085026@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 06:53:10 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:53:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks Authors : Young Lee Dhruv Dhody Sergio Belotti Khuzema Pithewan Daniele Ceccarelli Takuya Miyasaka Jong Yoon Shin Kwang-koog Lee Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2017-10-11 Abstract: This document provides a set of requirements for abstraction and control of Traffic Engineering networks to facilitate virtual network operation via the creation of a single virtualized network or a seamless service. This supports operators in viewing and controlling different domains (at any dimension: applied technology, administrative zones, or vendor-specific technology islands) as a single virtualized network. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Oct 11 07:12:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71404126E64; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:12:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.219 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.219 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d4c4G7XQKi2J; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71DE0132199; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DQI51501; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:12:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.301.0; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 15:12:17 +0100 Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.207]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.215]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:12:11 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: TEAS WG CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06.txt Thread-Index: AQHTQphd5FDkZ3ZUY0iDlCiKRhFy66Lery1A Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:12:11 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E172B435BF6@SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com> References: <150772999042.24775.14611218449663085026@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <150772999042.24775.14611218449663085026@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.134.207] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020203.59DE26C3.008D, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.4.207, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 6f3750fab0ce3507cc75ca0a3071798d Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:12:30 -0000 Hi, This revision was published to align with the latest ACTN framework and cle= an up editorials.=20 Co-authors believe that the version is ready for WG LC. Any comment would b= e appreciated.=20 Thanks. Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:53 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Abstraction and Control of TE Ne= tworks Authors : Young Lee Dhruv Dhody Sergio Belotti Khuzema Pithewan Daniele Ceccarelli Takuya Miyasaka Jong Yoon Shin Kwang-koog Lee Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2017-10-11 Abstract: This document provides a set of requirements for abstraction and control of Traffic Engineering networks to facilitate virtual network operation via the creation of a single virtualized network or a seamless service. This supports operators in viewing and controlling different domains (at any dimension: applied technology, administrative zones, or vendor-specific technology islands) as a single virtualized network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Wed Oct 11 07:35:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884DE1330BF; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:35:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.219 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.219 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rgWuHBA0SQYI; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E727C126CB6; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DQI55336; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:35:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.47) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.301.0; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 15:35:26 +0100 Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.207]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.215]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:35:21 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: TEAS WG CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03.txt Thread-Index: AQHTQpfItF1hPSRIgE2BaeaUw+nPrqLesLcQ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:35:20 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E172B435C0F@SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com> References: <150772975732.24828.11096455689170666773@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <150772975732.24828.11096455689170666773@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.134.207] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090204.59DE2C2F.00C7, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.4.207, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 1997cc29d4e9fc433454e93c0204c9fe Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:35:31 -0000 Hi, This version was published to align with the latest changes in ACTN Framewo= rk and to be complete with all the primitives including VN and TE.=20 The co-authors believe that this version is ready for WG LC. Any comment wo= uld be appreciated.=20 Thanks. Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:49 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF. Title : Information Model for Abstraction and Control of = TE Networks (ACTN) Authors : Young Lee Sergio Belotti Dhruv Dhody Daniele Ceccarelli Bin Yeong Yoon Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2017-10-11 Abstract: This draft provides an information model for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered (TE) networks (ACTN). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Malis" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 11:36:27 -0400 Message-ID: To: Leeyoung Cc: TEAS WG , TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113d02501cf733055b4731e0" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 15:36:51 -0000 --001a113d02501cf733055b4731e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" This looks like a straightforward update to match terminology to the latest revision of the Framework draft. I would suggest that the Framework draft be last-called, followed by this draft (updated if necessary as a result of the Framework last call process). Cheers, Andy On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Leeyoung wrote: > Hi, > > This revision was published to align with the latest ACTN framework and > clean up editorials. > > Co-authors believe that the version is ready for WG LC. Any comment would > be appreciated. > > Thanks. > Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:53 AM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: teas@ietf.org > Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and > Signaling WG of the IETF. > > Title : Requirements for Abstraction and Control of TE > Networks > Authors : Young Lee > Dhruv Dhody > Sergio Belotti > Khuzema Pithewan > Daniele Ceccarelli > Takuya Miyasaka > Jong Yoon Shin > Kwang-koog Lee > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06.txt > Pages : 11 > Date : 2017-10-11 > > Abstract: > This document provides a set of requirements for abstraction and > control of Traffic Engineering networks to facilitate virtual > network operation via the creation of a single virtualized network > or a seamless service. This supports operators in viewing and > controlling different domains (at any dimension: applied technology, > administrative zones, or vendor-specific technology islands) as a > single virtualized network. > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --001a113d02501cf733055b4731e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This looks like a straightforward update to match terminol= ogy to the latest revision of the Framework draft. I would suggest that the= Framework draft be last-called, followed by this draft (updated if necessa= ry as a result of the Framework last call process).

Chee= rs,
Andy

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Leeyoung <= leeyoung@huawei.com> wrote:
Hi,

This revision was published to align with the latest ACTN framework and cle= an up editorials.

Co-authors believe that the version is ready for WG LC. Any comment would b= e appreciated.

Thanks.
Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors)

-----Original Message-----
From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of intern= et-drafts@ietf.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:53 AM
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
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Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF.

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Youn= g Lee
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Dhruv Dhody
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0administrative zones, or vendor-specific technology islands) a= s a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0single virtualized network.




The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:HE1PR0701MB2715; H:HE1PR0701MB2714.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: ericsson.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 13 Oct 2017 08:34:53.9465 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 92e84ceb-fbfd-47ab-be52-080c6b87953f X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR0701MB2715 X-OriginatorOrg: ericsson.com X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA02SbUhTURjHOffubtfR4rQ0H0w/OBBi2WYSJSGVgiVU0qfQQHLTiy51yu4U Zx8a8zUttJrEbDEttRriIjUHatko6MV8hZCFsZU4nZkoxhJ7291d0Lff8///z/Oc53BoUlpL xdAarZ7RaVUlMqFYYMkeSj/gqPbkJAUWk1O2puUpdT+cghNEZlfXFpE5754hzhEXxKkFTImm ktEpj+WJi75/nSXLRw9X/ewcEhnRlrwJRdCAD0HzmlXEsRS/ROBvgCYkDvJrBL4Hd0VcIcDX Sdj0N4l4x0LA8Hw3xRc+BN6Z7aBD00J8FBZcZ7hWkfgS1I6PURzvxhnwaaCR5CKR+CTcn6f4 SDr8Wb8ZkgU4AVo8VZwswXlg8tURfPdVBLfHH4fyEVgFtvqe0E0RjoPW4XuIYxJHg3vBRvDb YOgamSR5joLlL78pPq8GR50znImHKXt7mONgxtaMuGGAG0XgtT4MGwoYvLGKeD4Lxm/vKT7U gWDtam84lAgO9zDFswH6az8LeS4D/9g0yR+YpMA7uxzuFAuBtg/hcTVC2HB4UStKbP9vDZ4V MNdmFvK8H3o6V8j20NvsgjeWBUEHEthRFMuw6tLC5GQFo9Pks2yZVqFl9E9Q8G+8GNhOcqJl X5oLYRrJdkjMGk+OlFJVsoZSFwKalEVKHGxQkhSoDNWMruyirqKEYV1oLy2QRUvSnk1lS3Gh Ss8UM0w5o/vnEnREjBGxSa2vTLkZeK7GS5ze99Z6q9C8lJWaF7uovEJPDlanux+N1mtLJ6xm S0BHq+/sNOlbHI6EkXqvRanIVp8yuv0z9HGlZEXxXKoo3oz7ldX3cOxId1avIU15vr/i3TW7 Rn6ZcOROmJxt8ZQ0f2OpIdA76H26runbY7NnfvTIBGyR6qCc1LGqv+33VaMXAwAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 08:35:00 -0000 Hi Michael, sorry for the delay in answering. Thanks for the review and comments that can help improving the document. =20 Please see in line. BR Daniele (for the authors) > -----Original Message----- > From: Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) > [mailto:michael.scharf@nokia.com] > Sent: mercoled=EC 4 ottobre 2017 19:22 > To: Daniele Ceccarelli ; teas@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt >=20 > Wouldn't it make sense to add a better explanation on what the ACTN > framework as described in this document does _not_ try to provide? >=20 > For instance, the document apparently doesn't cover service assurance > functions such as fault management. I am not sure how e.g. alarm correlat= ion > between multiple PNCs (possibly at different layers) would work in the AC= TN > framework as described in the document. But probably fault management > and mechanisms such as alarm correlation and root-cause analysis are not = in > scope of ACTN? [>DC] We have Section 8 (Manageability Consideration) where a high-level ma= nagement issue related to ACTN is discussed. We can surely add a couple of= sentences to make more clear that ACTN would not reinvent Network Manageme= nt System (NMS) or can act on behalf of but it indeed can complement NMS i= n controlling a TE network. We do not foresee to add specific tool regardin= g fault management as part of ACTN scope but ,if anything, exploiting IETF = tools that have already been defined or are work in progress will be evalua= ted to support ACTN requirements such as performance monitoring, etc. > Also, as far as I can see, except for Appendix B there is no network topo= logy > example that shows how ACTN would indeed apply to a multi-layer network > (e.g., IP/MPLS over OTN). And IMHO the example in Appendix B is too simpl= e > as it shows only *one* IP/MPLS PNC and *one* Optical PNC, which may not > be a realistic deployment in a larger network operators. As a result, I s= uggest > to either remove Appendix B or to replace it by a more realistic topology > example with multiple PNCs (both at IP/MPLS and Optical layer) as well as= an > actual explanation how ACTN would deal with multiple PNCs and multiple > layers, i.e., an actual example what topology would be seen by which MDSC= . > To me, the current content in Appendix B doesn't really prove that the AC= TN > concepts indeed work for larger multi-layer scenarios. I'd also be fine w= ith an > explicit statement that the applicability of ACTN to multi-layer network > deployments is not in scope of the document. [>DC] Multi-layer is in scope of ACTN (as discussed in Section 4.1.). If yo= u feel Appendix B does not provide sufficient details for multi-layer netwo= rk implementation scenario (e.g., IP/MPLS over optical), we can remove Appe= ndix B. A framework document should in principle highlight architectural as= pects so applicability part would be not essential. On the other end your q= uestion and comment makes clear the need to develop a new draft where detai= led implementation of multi-layer scenarios can be discussed and this docum= ent should become the reference as specific implementation/applicability qu= estions arise . >=20 > Michael >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele > > Ceccarelli > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 5:30 PM > > To: teas@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > > > > Dear WG, > > > > we submitted a new version of the ACTN framework draft which does not > > introduce or modify any concept but that is the result of a heavy text > > re- adjustment (thanks a lot Adrian for the huge effort) to improve > > readability and get rid of duplicated and redundant text. > > > > The authors and contributors think this is ready for WG LC and would > > appreciate your comments to the list. > > > > BR > > Daniele (for the co-authors) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > > > drafts@ietf.org > > > Sent: mercoled=EC 4 ottobre 2017 17:15 > > > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > > > Cc: teas@ietf.org > > > Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > > > > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > directories. > > > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture > > > and Signaling WG of the IETF. > > > > > > Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Tr= affic > Engineered > > > Networks > > > Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > > > Young Lee > > > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > > > Pages : 37 > > > Date : 2017-10-04 > > > > > > Abstract: > > > Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > > > facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. The= y > > > also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > > > configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > > > represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > > > networking. > > > > > > Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applie= d > > > to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > > > single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > > > operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > > > the network resources. > > > > > > This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > > > Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > > > > > > > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > > > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework > > > -0 > > > 8 > > > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > > > > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > > > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Teas mailing list > > > Teas@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Fri Oct 13 05:45:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C711313293A; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 05:45:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.934 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.934 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tfprcT0mWf8J; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 05:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from b-painless.mh.aa.net.uk (b-painless.mh.aa.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D208132705; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 05:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from a.e.a.c.3.9.e.0.6.d.2.9.e.4.5.d.1.0.0.0.f.b.0.0.0.b.8.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa ([2001:8b0:bf:1:d54e:92d6:e93:caea]) by b-painless.mh.aa.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e2zE3-0008NQ-CC; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:38:05 +0100 To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , Lou Berger Cc: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "gen-art@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org" , "teas@ietf.org" , ietf References: <8wh65ldo8qkrghsf29x4nukb.1506702288623@email.android.com> <15eec201498.27d3.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <2cdc53f9-11c4-40d7-c37c-09b747b763f6@labn.net> From: Elwyn Davies Message-ID: <9e10fcf0-b60d-8f36-ac6f-65242c86fb07@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:37:30 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F296101FDBEBC41432492958" Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:45:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F296101FDBEBC41432492958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Pavan. Sorry for the delay in replying. Yes, I meant RFC 2205 in a couple of places where I said RFC 2209. Oops! I had a think about the points below and I believe there may still be things to be noted. My thoughts are inline below. Cheers, Elwyn On 06/10/2017 22:23, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Lou, > Thanks for the response. I think that settles the "update" debate. > > Elwyn, Hi! > Are you satisfied with my other responses? I'll submit a new revision > as agreed in my responses. > > Regards, > -Pavan > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Lou Berger > wrote: > > Hi Pavan, > > On 10/05/2017 07:44 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > > Lou, Hi! > > > > Responses inline (prefixed PB). > > > > Regards, > > -Pavan > > > > From: Lou Berger > >> > > Date: Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 6:41 AM > > To: "EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com > > >" > > > >>, > Elwyn Davies > > > >> > > Cc: "gen-art@ietf.org > >" > > > >>, > > "draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org > > > >" > > > > >>, > > "teas@ietf.org >" > > >>, ietf > >> > > Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of > > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 > > > > Hi Pavan, > > > > WRT if this document updates rfc2961: > > > > I don't have a strong opinion on or objection to this document > updating > > rfc2961.  To have this document be an update, I do think we and > it need > > to be clear on what exactly is being updated in 2961. After > rereading > > both it's unclear to me what you see is being updated. As best I can > > see, this document basically relates to 2961 in that it says (a) > use the > > reliable message delivery defined in 2961 and (b) restates that 2205 > > refresh processing of path and resv messages still applies after > a rapid > > retry period expires and (c) sending acks moves from recommended to > > required. > > > > What did I miss? > > > > FWIW I think (a) and (c) are requirements of this document not > 2961 and > > (b) seems like an informative statement that the basic refresh > > processing rules of rfc2205 still apply. > > > > -- > > [PB] This is all about how we interpret (b). RFC2961 doesn’t > explicitly > > state what happens the rapid retry period expires. The current draft > > explains what needs to be done. Does this warrant an official > update to > > RFC2961? > > The RFC doesn't generally review unmodified RFC2205 processing, > nor has > that been the normal practice when defining RSVP extensions.  An > informative statement in this draft certainly would do no harm if you > feel that it is needed, but I don't think it raises to the level of an > update. > > Thanks, > Lou > > > > — > > > > Thanks > > Lou > > > > On October 1, 2017 9:14:15 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram > > > >> wrote: > > > >> Elwyn, Hi! > >> > >> Please see inline for responses. > >> > >> Regards, > >> -Pavan > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Elwyn Davies > > >> >> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>     Hi, Pavan. > >> > >>     I've checked through the changes in -07 and I think all is > good as > >>     regards fixing the 'major issue', restucturing s2 and > fixing the > >>     nits - thanks. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] Great! > >> > >> > >>     Looking at the IESG comments I think you have covered most of > >>     them  except it would be good to put a pointer to Appendix > A into > >>     the intro of s2. > >> > >>     With reference to Appendix A(d), it would be helpful to > s/periodic > >>     retransmission interval/Periodic Retransmission Interval/ and > >>     possibly give it a name (Rpri or some such)  in s2.3 and > Appendix > >>     A(d).  Adding the name of the interval after "retransmission of > >>     these on a slower timer" migt mak it clearer also. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] Ok. We'll add a pointer to the Appendix and also find a > short > >> form for the periodic retransmission interval. > >> > >> > >>     However,  I think you still need to address all three of > the minor > >>     issues: > >>     - Capability object:  A 'basic' implementation of RFC > 2209/RFC3209 > >>     will not include the RFC5063 extensions. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] I think you meant RFC2205 and not RFC2209. > >> > >>     I think you should therefore make it explicit that a > prerequisite > >>     for your extensions is an implementation of the Capability > object > >>     as specified in RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , making it clear > >>     that this does not require any of the other functionality > of RFC > >>     5063, especially no support for the S bit in the Capabilities. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capability Object" needs a > separate > >> prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD > take a > >> call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using > >> Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then > >> need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate > section for > >> RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of > >> certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and "Node > Hellos", > >> there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarified. > I think it would be useful to prospective implementors to have a very short statement either at the end of s1 or as a new section to say that you need to have the Capability Object implemented as this is not necessarily in a basic RSVP  implementation or RSVP-TE implementation.  Since this draft is about RSVP-TE deployments (RFC 3209) you get Node-Hellos automatically (and the RFC 4558 clarification is mentioned) and doesn't need to be called out explicitly. > > We > >> could just add a statement in Section 4.1 saying that you don't > need > >> to set any other flags. Would that address your concern about the > >> ambiguity regarding the "Graceful Restart" bits? > >> > >> OLD > >>    An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique > >> MUST set a new > >>    flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in > Hello > >>    messages. > >> NEW > >> > >>  An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new > >>    flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in > Hello > >>    messages. This MAY be the only flag set in the object. > >> > That sounds fine. > > >> > >>     -  Your response regarding what happens if a peer initially > >>     acknowledges that it supports the new capabilities by > setting the > >>     I/F bits in the Capability and sends some messages with the > >>     Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit set, but then stops setting the > >>     Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't really address the > problem. > >>      Would this mean that the receiver should assume that the > peer can > >>     no longer support the extensions? > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] Yes. > >> > >>     Is this a permanent state or could the peer start setting the > >>     Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and restore initial > >>     functionality - or should this just not be allowed. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the > functionality. > >> > >>     I think you need to think through what happes in the various > >>     possible cases and explain what an implementation should do in > >>     each case. > What seems to be missing is what should be done if either or both of the two capabilities are active on the peer or some of its LSPs when the  Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit is cleared in a message (which I think could be any message from the peer).  If I understand correctly it is possible that RI-RSVP might have to be switched off and depending on where the RI-RSVP process had got to in terms of sending repeat PATH messages, it might be necessary to revert to standard refreshing procedures from part way through the revised procedure - I think you probably need to be clear about what you would do in terms of where to enter the default refresh procedure and whether this means the refresh interval should revert to a lower value.   I am not sure whether immediately unthrottling the flow control would be desirable either! > > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality > >> enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is > enabled, the > >> implementation does everything that is specified as required > for the > >> given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation > doesn't > >> employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'll try > >> and add some text to make this obvious. > >> > >> > >>     - So, I have done my homework and checked back on what happens > >>     when there is no acknowledgement of refreshes. The relevant > >>     parameter is the cleanup time.  However, this leaves us with a > >>     problem.. the cleanup time is typically set as a multiple > of the > >>     refresh interval (9 times seems to be the default) - indeed > I see > >>     that the interface configuration on a Juniper router (!) > actually > >>     sets it by asking for the multiple rather than an absolute > value. > >>     Wth the new dispensation in ths document, there are two time > >>     periods involved:  I think you do need to respecify how to > >>     calculate a sensible cleanup interval, and note that the > >>     retransmissions will then halt after this interval. > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer > >> (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP > >> instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through > >> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01 > > >> > > > >> for a detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated > with it > >> and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3) > >> that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from > what you > >> are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not > just > >> PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure > >> discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid > >> retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In > Section > >> 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry > limit is > >> reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid > >> retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this > needs > >> to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding > state > >> is torn down. > No.  I am not talking about the setup-retry timer.  I was thinking about the L value (the local state lifetime) as discussed in Section 3.7 of RFC 2205.  This is usually defined in terms of a multiple of the refresh timer - s3 of the draft suggests that the refresh timer be configured to 20 minutes making the L value at least an hour in the default case.  This would mean the slower refresh retries would go on for an hour which seems excessive.  I suspect you need to specify an alternative algorithm for setting L. > > >> > >> > >>     Does this last modification constitute an update of RFC > 2209?  I > >>     am not sure -consult your AD! > >> > >> > >> [Pavan] RFC2209 is an informational document that provides > guidance on > >> the various data-models and procedures needed for an > implementation to > >> be RFC2205 compliant. Most of the content in RFC2209 is outdated > >> (imho). No one has had the inclination over the years to update > this > >> and we don't intend to do this either. > >> > >> [Pavan] Reading through the various questions/comments from the > IESG, > >> I'm convinced that this document needs to formally update RFC2961. > >> We'll go ahead and do that if the shepherd and our AD have no > objections. > This has been addressed in your discussions with Lou. > > >> > >> > >> > >>     Regards, > >>     Elwyn > >> > >>     Sent from Samsung tablet. > >> > >>     -------- Original message -------- > >>     From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram > >>     >> > >>     Date: 28/09/2017 03:48 (GMT+00:00) > >>     To: Elwyn Davies > >>     >> > >>     Cc: gen-art@ietf.org > >, > >> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org > > >>      >, ietf > >>      >>, teas@ietf.org > >>     > > >>     Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of > >>     draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 > >> > >>     Elwyn, Hi! > >> > >>     Thanks for the detailed review and the text suggestions. We > just > >>     posted a new revision (-07) to address the concerns listed > below. > >>     Please go through the new diffs > >>    >  (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-07 > > >>    >   >) > >>     and let us know if additional changes are required. > >> > >>     Please see inline for further responses (prefixed VPB). > >> > >>     Regards, > >>     -Pavan > >> > >>     On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Elwyn Davies > >>      > >> wrote: > >> > >>         Reviewer: Elwyn Davies > >>         Review result: Not Ready > >> > >>         I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The > General > >>         Area > >>         Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being > processed > >>         by the IESG for the IETF Chair.  Please treat these > comments just > >>         like any other last call comments. > >> > >>         For more information, please see the FAQ at > >> > >>          > >>        >   >>. > >> > >>         Document: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 > >>         Reviewer: Elwyn Davies > >>         Review Date: 2017-09-22 > >>         IETF LC End Date: 2017-09-22 > >>         IESG Telechat date: 2017-09-28 > >> > >>         Summary: Not ready, primarily because the title and > >>         presentation give the > >>         impression that the content is really a BCP when it isn't. > >>         This conceals the > >>         considerable amount of tweaking of RFC 2961 > functionality and > >>         addition of new > >>         RSVP Capabilities described in the document.  There are > also a > >>         couple of minor > >>         issues that need to be sorted out. > >> > >>         Major issues: > >>         Title and way proposals are presented: The document defines > >>         two new > >>         'capabilities' for RSVP-TE and is indeed (as specified > in the > >>         document header) > >>         correctly intended for Standards Track status.  However the > >>         title and the whole > >>         of the meat of the document in Section 2 presents the > proposals as > >>         'recommendations' which says to me that I am expecting > a BCP > >>         where a profile of > >>         available options from existing standards is recommended as > >>         the best choice for > >>         implementation and deployment.  In my opinion, the > title would > >>         be better as > >>         something like "Additional Capabilities Designed to Improve > >>         the Scalability of > >>         RSVP-TE Deployments".  Whilst the proposals are based > on the > >>         techniques in RFC > >>         2961, the document *requires* the implementor to conform to > >>         rules that were > >>         optional and constrains configurable values to different > >>         ranges in order to be > >>         able to deliver the capabilities defined in the document as > >>         well as defining > >>         new RSVP extensions modifying some of the behaviour > defined in > >>         RFC 2961.  Thus > >>         although some of the rules could be met by choosing > particular > >>         values within > >>         the RFC 2961 set, the use of MUST, tweaking of > functionality > >>         and variation of > >>         ranges takes it well beyond a set of recommendations > for RFC > >>         2961 options > >>         selections.  In view of this Section 1 needs to be > written as > >>         an introduction > >>         to the definitions of the new capabilities rather than > >>         advocacy for selection > >>         of RFC 2961 options and the implication that the techniques > >>         mentioned in the > >>         last paragraph of s1 are just a matter of selecting a > profile > >>         of option values. > >>          In actuality new protocol values are introduced and > ss2.2 and > >>         2.3 define novel > >>         extensions to RSVP beyond what is available for RFC > 2961 and > >>         requiring > >>         modification to basic RFC 2961 functionality.. > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] We changed the title to "Techniques to Improve the > >>     Scalability of RSVP-TE Deployments". We also tweaked the > text in > >>     the introduction section as suggested. Please see if the > new set > >>     of diffs address the comment above. > >> > >>         Minor issues: > >>         Interaction with RFC 5063:  The document does not > explicitly > >>         state that an > >>         implementation would need to support (at least) the extra > >>         capability obect > >>         defined in s4.2 of RFC 5063.  Some words about interaction > >>         with RFC 5063 are > >>         probably required in that s4.2.1 of RFC 5063 rather assumes > >>         that if there is a > >>         capability object, by default its S bit will be set. > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] The CAPABILITY object in RFC5063 is meant for generic use > >>     and can be used even when there are no Graceful Restart > extensions > >>     in play (even when no GR flags are set). As far as we can tell, > >>     there is nothing in RFC5063 that precludes this. We added a > >>     reference to RFC5063 when the new Capability flags are > introduced. > >>     Would this be sufficient to address this concern? > >> > >> > >> > >>         Behaviour if a node stops setting Refresh-Reduction-Capable > >>         bit:  The last para > >>         of s2 in RFC 2961 discusses behaviour if a node stops > setting > >>         this bit in > >>         messages.  What would happen with the extensions defined in > >>         this document if > >>         this happened while either of the extensions is in > use?  As a > >>         matter of > >>         interest, if a peer offers the capabilities defined in this > >>         draft, is it > >>         possible or sensible for it to stop setting the > >>         Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit > >>         without stopping offering the extensions? > >> > >> > >>     [VPB]  If a peer sets the I or F bit in the CAPABILITY > object but > >>     does not set the Refresh-Reduction-capable bit, then the > >>     corresponding functionality ("RI-RSVP" or "Per-Peer > Flow-Control") > >>     is not activated for that peer. In other words, resetting the > >>     Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit immediately makes the node > incapable > >>     of supporting the two capabilities discussed in this document. > >>     This is covered in Sections 3.1 and 4.1 ( -07 version). > >> > >> > >>         s2.1.3, para 2: As specified, it appears that the 'slower > >>         timer' transmission > >>         of Path and Resv messages can go on indefinitely if no ack > >>         arrives.  What puts > >>         an end to this repetition?  [It may be that I have > forgotten > >>         how basic RSVP > >>         works, but since this is altering the behaviour it would be > >>         good to explain how > >>         it terminates, and whether this requires any additional > >>         modification to timers.] > >> > >> > >>     [VPB]  There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages > getting > >>     transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling > >>     behavior) -- all that this section does is discuss how these > >>     transmissions are paced in the absence of an ack. The > slower timer > >>     transmission will go on until either an ack is received (at > which > >>     point the regular "refresh interval" comes into play) or the > >>     corresponding LSP instance state is torn down. > >> > >> > >>         Nits/editorial comments: > >>         Abstract: RSVP-TE is not a 'well-known' abbreviation: > >>         s/RSVP-TE/RSVP Traffic > >>         Engineering (RSVP-TE)/ > >> > >> > >>         Abstract and s1, first para:  This para is not future > proof. > >>         Suggest: > >>         OLD: > >>            The scale at which RSVP-TE [RFC3209] Label Switched > Paths > >>         (LSPs) get > >>            deployed is growing continually and there is > considerable > >>         onus on > >>            RSVP-TE implementations across the board to keep up > with this > >>            increasing demand in scale. > >>         NEW: > >>            At the time of writing, networks which utilise RSVP > Traffic > >>         Engineering > >>            (RSVP-TE) [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) are > >>         encountering limitations > >>            in the ability of implementations to support the > growth in > >>         the number of LSPs > >>            deployed.  This document defines two additional RSVP-TE > >>         extensions that > >>            are intended to reduce the number of messages needed to > >>         maintain RSVP-TE > >>            soft state in routers and hence allow implementations to > >>         support larger > >>            scale deployments. > >>         ENDS > >>         Note:  Omit reference from Abstract. > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >>         s1, para 2: s/under certain/beyond a certain/ > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         s1, para 3: s/makes a set of concrete implementation > >>         recommendations/defines > >>         two extensions/; s/- push higher/by increasing/; s/maintain > >>         LSP state./maintain > >>         LSP state by reducing the number of messages needed./ > >> > >>         Abstract, para 2 and s1, last para: [Omit reference from > >>         Abstract] > >>         OLD: > >>            This document advocates the use of a couple of > techniques - > >>         "Refresh- > >>            Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer > >>         Flow-Control" - > >>            for significantly cutting down the amount of > processing cycles > >>            required to maintain LSP state. > >>         NEW: > >>            This document defines two RSVP Capabilities > [RFC5063] "Refresh- > >>            Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer > >>         Flow-Control" > >>            that will cut down the number of messsages and > processing > >>         cycles > >>            required to maintain LSP state. > >>         ENDS > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         s1, last para: Add new penultimate sentence: > >>            Note that the "Per-Peer Flow-Control" capability > requires > >>         the "RI-RSVP" > >>            capability as a prerequisite. > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         s1, last para: s/RECOMMENDED/recommended/ - this isn't a > >>         recommendation about > >>         the protocol on the wire. > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         Subdivision of s2:  The issues regarding the nature of the > >>         document would be > >>         helped by altering s2 into four top level sections, > thus: s2: > >>         Requirement for > >>         RFC 2961 Refresh Overhead Reduction Support and Specific > >>         Option Choices (from > >>         s2.1) s3: Requirement for RFC 5063 Capability Object > support > >>         (see Minor Issues > >>         above) s4: Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Capability > (from > >>         s2.3) s5: > >>         Per-Peer RSVP Flow Control Capability (from s2.4) > Subsequent > >>         major sections > >>         then renumbered as s6 onwards. References to s2.x will > need to > >>         be updated > >>         throughout. > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] We subdivided s2 into 3 top level sections. We did > not add a > >>     separate section for discussing RFC5063 Capability Object > support. > >> > >> > >>         s2.1 (would be introduction of new s2): > >>         OLD: > >>            The implementation recommendations discussed in this > >>         section are > >>            based on the proposals made in [RFC2961] and act as > >>         prerequisites for > >>            implementing the techniques discussed in Sections > 2.2 and 2.3. > >> > >>         NEW: > >>            The Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5 of this > >>         document are based on > >>            proposals made in [RFC2961]. Implementations of these > >>         Capabilities will > >>            need to support the RSVP messages and techniques > defined in > >>         [RFC2961] as set > >>            out in Section 2.1 [was 2.1.1] with > >>            some minor modifications and alterations to recommended > >>         time intervals and > >>            iteration counts as defined in the remainder of this > section. > >>         ENDS > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >>         s2.1.1, title and para 1 [will be s2.1]: > >>         OLD: > >>         2.1.1.  Basic Prerequisites > >> > >>            An implementation that supports the techniques > discussed in > >>         Sections > >>            2.2 and 2.3 must meet certain basic prerequisites. > >>         NEW: > >>         2.1.  Required Functionality from RFC 2961 to be > Implemented > >> > >>            An implementation that supports the capabiities > discussed > >>         in Sections > >>            4 and 5 must provide a large subset of the functionality > >>         described > >>            in [RFC2961] as follows: > >>         ENDS > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         s2.1.2, para 2 [will be s2.2]: s/techniques discussed in > >>         Sections 2.2 and > >>         2.3/Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5/ > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         s2.1.2, para 2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/ > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         s2.2, para 1: s/improvement on transmission > >>         overhead/improvement of > >>         transmission overhead/ > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         s2.2, para 1: s/proposes sufficient > recommendations/sets out > >>         additional > >>         requirements/ > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         s2.2, last bullet: Add a reference to the proposed new > Section > >>         3 that discusses > >>         the Capability object. > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Added a direct reference to RFC5063 > >> > >> > >>         s2.2.1, last para: s/set Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in > >>         common header/set the > >>         Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in the common header/ > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         s2.3, para 1: s/set of recommendations/functionality/; > >>         s/provide/provides/; > >>         s/RSVP-TE control plane congestion/a significant portion of > >>         the RSVP-TE control > >>         message load/ > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >>         s2.3.2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/ > >> > >> > >>     [VPB] Fixed in -07 > >> > >> > >> > >>         _______________________________________________ > >>         Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > >>        >   > > >> > >> > >> > > --------------F296101FDBEBC41432492958 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi, Pavan.

Sorry for the delay in replying.

Yes, I meant RFC 2205 in a couple of places where I said RFC 2209. Oops!

I had a think about the points below and I believe there may still be things to be noted. My thoughts are inline below.

Cheers,
Elwyn

On 06/10/2017 22:23, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
Lou,
Thanks for the response. I think that settles the "update" debate.

Elwyn, Hi!
Are you satisfied with my other responses? I'll submit a new revision as agreed in my responses.

Regards,
-Pavan

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
Hi Pavan,

On 10/05/2017 07:44 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
> Lou, Hi!
>
> Responses inline (prefixed PB).
>
> Regards,
> -Pavan
>
> From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net <mailto:lberger@labn.net>>
> Date: Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 6:41 AM
> To: "EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com <mailto:EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com>"
> <vishnupavan@gmail.com <mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com>>, Elwyn Davies
> <elwynd@dial.pipex.com <mailto:elwynd@dial.pipex.com>>
> Cc: "gen-art@ietf.org <mailto:gen-art@ietf.org>" <gen-art@ietf.org
> <mailto:gen-art@ietf.org>>,
> "draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org
> <mailto:draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org>"
> <draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org
> <mailto:draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org>>,
> "teas@ietf.org <mailto:teas@ietf.org>" <teas@ietf.org
> <mailto:teas@ietf.org>>, ietf <ietf@ietf.org <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of
> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06
>
> Hi Pavan,
>
> WRT if this document updates rfc2961:
>
> I don't have a strong opinion on or objection to this document updating
> rfc2961.  To have this document be an update, I do think we and it need
> to be clear on what exactly is being updated in 2961. After rereading
> both it's unclear to me what you see is being updated. As best I can
> see, this document basically relates to 2961 in that it says (a) use the
> reliable message delivery defined in 2961 and (b) restates that 2205
> refresh processing of path and resv messages still applies after a rapid
> retry period expires and (c) sending acks moves from recommended to
> required. 
>
> What did I miss?
>
> FWIW I think (a) and (c) are requirements of this document not 2961 and
> (b) seems like an informative statement that the basic refresh
> processing rules of rfc2205 still apply.
>
> --
> [PB] This is all about how we interpret (b). RFC2961 doesn’t explicitly
> state what happens the rapid retry period expires. The current draft
> explains what needs to be done. Does this warrant an official update to
> RFC2961? 

The RFC doesn't generally review unmodified RFC2205 processing, nor has
that been the normal practice when defining RSVP extensions.  An
informative statement in this draft certainly would do no harm if you
feel that it is needed, but I don't think it raises to the level of an
update.

Thanks,
Lou


> —
>
> Thanks
> Lou
>
> On October 1, 2017 9:14:15 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com
> <mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Elwyn, Hi!
>>
>> Please see inline for responses.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Pavan
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com
>> <mailto:elwynd@dial.pipex.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     Hi, Pavan.
>>
>>     I've checked through the changes in -07 and I think all is good as
>>     regards fixing the 'major issue', restucturing s2 and fixing the
>>     nits - thanks.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] Great!
>>
>>
>>     Looking at the IESG comments I think you have covered most of
>>     them  except it would be good to put a pointer to Appendix A into
>>     the intro of s2. 
>>
>>     With reference to Appendix A(d), it would be helpful to s/periodic
>>     retransmission interval/Periodic Retransmission Interval/ and
>>     possibly give it a name (Rpri or some such)  in s2.3 and Appendix
>>     A(d).  Adding the name of the interval after "retransmission of
>>     these on a slower timer" migt mak it clearer also.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] Ok. We'll add a pointer to the Appendix and also find a short
>> form for the periodic retransmission interval.
>>
>>
>>     However,  I think you still need to address all three of the minor
>>     issues:
>>     - Capability object:  A 'basic' implementation of RFC 2209/RFC3209
>>     will not include the RFC5063 extensions. 
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] I think you meant RFC2205 and not RFC2209.
>>
>>     I think you should therefore make it explicit that a prerequisite
>>     for your extensions is an implementation of the Capability object
>>     as specified in RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , making it clear
>>     that this does not require any of the other functionality of RFC
>>     5063, especially no support for the S bit in the Capabilities.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capability Object" needs a separate
>> prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD take a
>> call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using
>> Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then
>> need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate section for
>> RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of
>> certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and "Node Hellos",
>> there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarified.
I think it would be useful to prospective implementors to have a very short statement either at the end of s1 or as a new section to say that you need to have the Capability Object implemented as this is not necessarily in a basic RSVP  implementation or RSVP-TE implementation.  Since this draft is about RSVP-TE deployments (RFC 3209) you get Node-Hellos automatically (and the RFC 4558 clarification is mentioned) and doesn't need to be called out explicitly.
We
>> could just add a statement in Section 4.1 saying that you don't need
>> to set any other flags. Would that address your concern about the
>> ambiguity regarding the "Graceful Restart" bits?
>>
>> OLD
>>    An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique
>> MUST set a new
>>    flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello
>>    messages.
>> NEW
>>
>>  An implementation supporting the RI-RSVP technique MUST set a new
>>    flag "RI-RSVP Capable" in the CAPABILITY object signaled in Hello
>>    messages. This MAY be the only flag set in the object.
>>
That sounds fine.
>>
>>     -  Your response regarding what happens if a peer initially
>>     acknowledges that it supports the new capabilities by setting the
>>     I/F bits in the Capability and sends some messages with the
>>     Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit set, but then stops setting the
>>     Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't really address the problem. 
>>      Would this mean that the receiver should assume that the peer can
>>     no longer support the extensions? 
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] Yes.
>>
>>     Is this a permanent state or could the peer start setting the
>>     Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and restore initial
>>     functionality - or should this just not be allowed.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionality.
>>
>>     I think you need to think through what happes in the various
>>     possible cases and explain what an implementation should do in
>>     each case.
What seems to be missing is what should be done if either or both of the two capabilities are active on the peer or some of its LSPs when the  Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit is cleared in a message (which I think could be any message from the peer).  If I understand correctly it is possible that RI-RSVP might have to be switched off and depending on where the RI-RSVP process had got to in terms of sending repeat PATH messages, it might be necessary to revert to standard refreshing procedures from part way through the revised procedure - I think you probably need to be clear about what you would do in terms of where to enter the default refresh procedure and whether this means the refresh interval should revert to a lower value.   I am not sure whether immediately unthrottling the flow control would be desirable either!
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality
>> enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the
>> implementation does everything that is specified as required for the
>> given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation doesn't
>> employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'll try
>> and add some text to make this obvious.
>>  
>>
>>     - So, I have done my homework and checked back on what happens
>>     when there is no acknowledgement of refreshes. The relevant
>>     parameter is the cleanup time.  However, this leaves us with a
>>     problem.. the cleanup time is typically set as a multiple of the
>>     refresh interval (9 times seems to be the default) - indeed I see
>>     that the interface configuration on a Juniper router (!) actually
>>     sets it by asking for the multiple rather than an absolute value. 
>>     Wth the new dispensation in ths document, there are two time
>>     periods involved:  I think you do need to respecify how to
>>     calculate a sensible cleanup interval, and note that the
>>     retransmissions will then halt after this interval.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer
>> (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP
>> instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dravisingh-2Dteas-2Drsvp-2Dsetup-2Dretry-2D01&d=DwMDaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=CFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=k7e-cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=XXwwGPXiCQhVIgNDbiHxKEuHs1fkmMoiGQsHcQ33ZQE&e=>
>> for a detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it
>> and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3)
>> that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from what you
>> are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not just
>> PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure
>> discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid
>> retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In Section
>> 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry limit is
>> reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid
>> retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this needs
>> to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding state
>> is torn down.
No.  I am not talking about the setup-retry timer.  I was thinking about the L value (the local state lifetime) as discussed in Section 3.7 of RFC 2205.  This is usually defined in terms of a multiple of the refresh timer - s3 of the draft suggests that the refresh timer be configured to 20 minutes making the L value at least an hour in the default case.  This would mean the slower refresh retries would go on for an hour which seems excessive.  I suspect you need to specify an alternative algorithm for setting L.
>>
>>
>>     Does this last modification constitute an update of RFC 2209?  I
>>     am not sure -consult your AD!
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] RFC2209 is an informational document that provides guidance on
>> the various data-models and procedures needed for an implementation to
>> be RFC2205 compliant. Most of the content in RFC2209 is outdated
>> (imho). No one has had the inclination over the years to update this
>> and we don't intend to do this either.
>>
>> [Pavan] Reading through the various questions/comments from the IESG,
>> I'm convinced that this document needs to formally update RFC2961.
>> We'll go ahead and do that if the shepherd and our AD have no objections.
This has been addressed in your discussions with Lou.
>>  
>>
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Elwyn 
>>
>>     Sent from Samsung tablet.
>>
>>     -------- Original message --------
>>     From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com>>
>>     Date: 28/09/2017 03:48 (GMT+00:00)
>>     To: Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com
>>     <mailto:elwynd@dial.pipex.com>>
>>     Cc: gen-art@ietf.org <mailto:gen-art@ietf.org>,
>>     draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org
>>     <mailto:draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org>, ietf
>>     <ietf@ietf.org <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>>, teas@ietf.org
>>     <mailto:teas@ietf.org>
>>     Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of
>>     draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06
>>
>>     Elwyn, Hi!
>>
>>     Thanks for the detailed review and the text suggestions. We just
>>     posted a new revision (-07) to address the concerns listed below.
>>     Please go through the new diffs
>>     (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-07
>>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_rfcdiff-3Furl2-3Ddraft-2Dietf-2Dteas-2Drsvp-2Dte-2Dscaling-2Drec-2D07&d=DwMDaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=CFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=k7e-cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=xuSuAQ7BlTuE-ue-3t5WtAzMMA9cBuBNzk4iM7yoTHs&e=>)
>>     and let us know if additional changes are required.
>>
>>     Please see inline for further responses (prefixed VPB).
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     -Pavan
>>
>>     On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Elwyn Davies
>>     <elwynd@dial.pipex.com <mailto:elwynd@dial.pipex.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Reviewer: Elwyn Davies
>>         Review result: Not Ready
>>
>>         I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General
>>         Area
>>         Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
>>         by the IESG for the IETF Chair.  Please treat these comments just
>>         like any other last call comments.
>>
>>         For more information, please see the FAQ at
>>
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>>
>>         Document: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06
>>         Reviewer: Elwyn Davies
>>         Review Date: 2017-09-22
>>         IETF LC End Date: 2017-09-22
>>         IESG Telechat date: 2017-09-28
>>
>>         Summary: Not ready, primarily because the title and
>>         presentation give the
>>         impression that the content is really a BCP when it isn't. 
>>         This conceals the
>>         considerable amount of tweaking of RFC 2961 functionality and
>>         addition of new
>>         RSVP Capabilities described in the document.  There are also a
>>         couple of minor
>>         issues that need to be sorted out.
>>
>>         Major issues:
>>         Title and way proposals are presented:  The document defines
>>         two new
>>         'capabilities' for RSVP-TE and is indeed (as specified in the
>>         document header)
>>         correctly intended for Standards Track status.  However the
>>         title and the whole
>>         of the meat of the document in Section 2 presents the proposals as
>>         'recommendations' which says to me that I am expecting a BCP
>>         where a profile of
>>         available options from existing standards is recommended as
>>         the best choice for
>>         implementation and deployment.  In my opinion, the title would
>>         be better as
>>         something like "Additional Capabilities Designed to Improve
>>         the Scalability of
>>         RSVP-TE Deployments".  Whilst the proposals are based on the
>>         techniques in RFC
>>         2961, the document *requires* the implementor to conform to
>>         rules that were
>>         optional and constrains configurable values to different
>>         ranges in order to be
>>         able to deliver the capabilities defined in the document as
>>         well as defining
>>         new RSVP extensions modifying some of the behaviour defined in
>>         RFC 2961.  Thus
>>         although some of the rules could be met by choosing particular
>>         values within
>>         the RFC 2961 set, the use of MUST, tweaking of functionality
>>         and variation of
>>         ranges takes it well beyond a set of recommendations for RFC
>>         2961 options
>>         selections.  In view of this Section 1 needs to be written as
>>         an introduction
>>         to the definitions of the new capabilities rather than
>>         advocacy for selection
>>         of RFC 2961 options and the implication that the techniques
>>         mentioned in the
>>         last paragraph of s1 are just a matter of selecting a profile
>>         of option values.
>>          In actuality new protocol values are introduced and ss2.2 and
>>         2.3 define novel
>>         extensions to RSVP beyond what is available for RFC 2961 and
>>         requiring
>>         modification to basic RFC 2961 functionality..
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] We changed the title to "Techniques to Improve the
>>     Scalability of RSVP-TE Deployments". We also tweaked the text in
>>     the introduction section as suggested. Please see if the new set
>>     of diffs address the comment above.
>>
>>         Minor issues:
>>         Interaction with RFC 5063:  The document does not explicitly
>>         state that an
>>         implementation would need to support (at least) the extra
>>         capability obect
>>         defined in s4.2 of RFC 5063.  Some words about interaction
>>         with RFC 5063 are
>>         probably required in that s4.2.1 of RFC 5063 rather assumes
>>         that if there is a
>>         capability object, by default its S bit will be set.
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] The CAPABILITY object in RFC5063 is meant for generic use
>>     and can be used even when there are no Graceful Restart extensions
>>     in play (even when no GR flags are set). As far as we can tell,
>>     there is nothing in RFC5063 that precludes this. We added a
>>     reference to RFC5063 when the new Capability flags are introduced.
>>     Would this be sufficient to address this concern?
>>      
>>
>>
>>         Behaviour if a node stops setting Refresh-Reduction-Capable
>>         bit:  The last para
>>         of s2 in RFC 2961 discusses behaviour if a node stops setting
>>         this bit in
>>         messages.  What would happen with the extensions defined in
>>         this document if
>>         this happened while either of the extensions is in use?  As a
>>         matter of
>>         interest, if a peer offers the capabilities defined in this
>>         draft, is it
>>         possible or sensible for it to stop setting the
>>         Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit
>>         without stopping offering the extensions?
>>
>>
>>     [VPB]  If a peer sets the I or F bit in the CAPABILITY object but
>>     does not set the Refresh-Reduction-capable bit, then the
>>     corresponding functionality ("RI-RSVP" or "Per-Peer Flow-Control")
>>     is not activated for that peer. In other words, resetting the
>>     Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit immediately makes the node incapable
>>     of supporting the two capabilities discussed in this document.
>>     This is covered in Sections 3.1 and 4.1 ( -07 version).
>>
>>
>>         s2.1.3, para 2: As specified, it appears that the 'slower
>>         timer' transmission
>>         of Path and Resv messages can go on indefinitely if no ack
>>         arrives.  What puts
>>         an end to this repetition?  [It may be that I have forgotten
>>         how basic RSVP
>>         works, but since this is altering the behaviour it would be
>>         good to explain how
>>         it terminates, and whether this requires any additional
>>         modification to timers.]
>>
>>
>>     [VPB]  There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting
>>     transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling
>>     behavior) -- all that this section does is discuss how these
>>     transmissions are paced in the absence of an ack. The slower timer
>>     transmission will go on until either an ack is received (at which
>>     point the regular "refresh interval" comes into play) or the
>>     corresponding LSP instance state is torn down.
>>
>>
>>         Nits/editorial comments:
>>         Abstract: RSVP-TE is not a 'well-known' abbreviation:
>>         s/RSVP-TE/RSVP Traffic
>>         Engineering (RSVP-TE)/
>>
>>
>>         Abstract and s1, first para:  This para is not future proof. 
>>         Suggest:
>>         OLD:
>>            The scale at which RSVP-TE [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths
>>         (LSPs) get
>>            deployed is growing continually and there is considerable
>>         onus on
>>            RSVP-TE implementations across the board to keep up with this
>>            increasing demand in scale.
>>         NEW:
>>            At the time of writing, networks which utilise RSVP Traffic
>>         Engineering
>>            (RSVP-TE) [RFC3209] Label Switched Paths (LSPs) are
>>         encountering limitations
>>            in the ability of implementations to support the growth in
>>         the number of LSPs
>>            deployed.  This document defines two additional RSVP-TE
>>         extensions that
>>            are intended to reduce the number of messages needed to
>>         maintain RSVP-TE
>>            soft state in routers and hence allow implementations to
>>         support larger
>>            scale deployments.
>>         ENDS
>>         Note:  Omit reference from Abstract.
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>         s1, para 2: s/under certain/beyond a certain/
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         s1, para 3: s/makes a set of concrete implementation
>>         recommendations/defines
>>         two extensions/; s/- push higher/by increasing/; s/maintain
>>         LSP state./maintain
>>         LSP state by reducing the number of messages needed./
>>
>>         Abstract, para 2 and s1, last para:  [Omit reference from
>>         Abstract]
>>         OLD:
>>            This document advocates the use of a couple of techniques -
>>         "Refresh-
>>            Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer
>>         Flow-Control" -
>>            for significantly cutting down the amount of processing cycles
>>            required to maintain LSP state.
>>         NEW:
>>            This document defines two RSVP Capabilities [RFC5063] "Refresh-
>>            Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer
>>         Flow-Control"
>>            that will cut down the number of messsages and processing
>>         cycles
>>            required to maintain LSP state.
>>         ENDS
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         s1, last para: Add new penultimate sentence:
>>            Note that the "Per-Peer Flow-Control" capability requires
>>         the "RI-RSVP"
>>            capability as a prerequisite.
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         s1, last para: s/RECOMMENDED/recommended/ - this isn't a
>>         recommendation about
>>         the protocol on the wire.
>>
>>      
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         Subdivision of s2:  The issues regarding the nature of the
>>         document would be
>>         helped by altering s2 into four top level sections, thus: s2:
>>         Requirement for
>>         RFC 2961 Refresh Overhead Reduction Support and Specific
>>         Option Choices (from
>>         s2.1) s3: Requirement for RFC 5063 Capability Object support
>>         (see Minor Issues
>>         above) s4: Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Capability (from
>>         s2.3) s5:
>>         Per-Peer RSVP Flow Control Capability (from s2.4) Subsequent
>>         major sections
>>         then renumbered as s6 onwards. References to s2.x will need to
>>         be updated
>>         throughout.
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] We subdivided s2 into 3 top level sections. We did not add a
>>     separate section for discussing RFC5063 Capability Object support.
>>
>>
>>         s2.1 (would be introduction of new s2):
>>         OLD:
>>            The implementation recommendations discussed in this
>>         section are
>>            based on the proposals made in [RFC2961] and act as
>>         prerequisites for
>>            implementing the techniques discussed in Sections 2.2 and 2.3.
>>
>>         NEW:
>>            The Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5 of this
>>         document are based on
>>            proposals made in [RFC2961].  Implementations of these
>>         Capabilities will
>>            need to support the RSVP messages and techniques defined in
>>         [RFC2961] as set
>>            out in Section 2.1 [was 2.1.1] with
>>            some minor modifications and alterations to recommended
>>         time intervals and
>>            iteration counts as defined in the remainder of this section.
>>         ENDS
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>         s2.1.1, title and para 1 [will be s2.1]:
>>         OLD:
>>         2.1.1.  Basic Prerequisites
>>
>>            An implementation that supports the techniques discussed in
>>         Sections
>>            2.2 and 2.3 must meet certain basic prerequisites.
>>         NEW:
>>         2.1.  Required Functionality from RFC 2961 to be Implemented
>>
>>            An implementation that supports the capabiities discussed
>>         in Sections
>>            4 and 5 must provide a large subset of the functionality
>>         described
>>            in [RFC2961] as follows:
>>         ENDS
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         s2.1.2, para 2 [will be s2.2]: s/techniques discussed in
>>         Sections 2.2 and
>>         2.3/Capabilities defined in Sections 4 and 5/
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         s2.1.2, para 2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         s2.2, para 1: s/improvement on transmission
>>         overhead/improvement of
>>         transmission overhead/
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         s2.2, para 1: s/proposes sufficient recommendations/sets out
>>         additional
>>         requirements/
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         s2.2, last bullet: Add a reference to the proposed new Section
>>         3 that discusses
>>         the Capability object.
>>
>>      
>>     [VPB] Added a direct reference to RFC5063
>>
>>
>>         s2.2.1, last para: s/set Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in
>>         common header/set the
>>         Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit in the common header/
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         s2.3, para 1: s/set of recommendations/functionality/;
>>         s/provide/provides/;
>>         s/RSVP-TE control plane congestion/a significant portion of
>>         the RSVP-TE control
>>         message load/
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>         s2.3.2: s/MESSAGE ID/MESSAGE_ID/
>>
>>
>>     [VPB] Fixed in -07
>>
>>
>>
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         Teas mailing list
>>         Teas@ietf.org <mailto:Teas@ietf.org>
>>         https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas
>>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_teas&d=DwMDaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=CFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=k7e-cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=g6wdiVKa0BcV5n4De8h3NjtO0hRGaFGruAncUJvpq_k&e=>
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--------------F296101FDBEBC41432492958-- From nobody Fri Oct 13 07:31:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A70F120720; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 07:31:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150790506547.23739.16140854498283601906.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 07:31:05 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] The TEAS WG has placed draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-modeling in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:31:05 -0000 The TEAS WG has placed draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-modeling in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Lou Berger) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-modeling/ Comment: IPR Poll: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/4C7_fCR9_GCwWe9YGS36nXebbsk igor.bryskin@huawei.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/CdxGfwuazTe2xdCcIwMEzMKS5fk vbeeram@juniper.net: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/aWZhWKOuKrn_75BX0Ssrjs0H5-k xufeng_liu@jabil.com,https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/GR8piHDT7-RWgesldvyuvlQ7EyU Missing: tsaad@cisco.com, From nobody Fri Oct 13 14:15:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C2012895E; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150792935099.23923.5972791977817987805.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:15:50 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] The TEAS WG has placed draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:15:51 -0000 The TEAS WG has placed draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Vishnu Beeram) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation/ Comment: IPR Poll: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/4soVHvQJZD5ZY6w1yGsIf8ZQgcc Italo.Busi@huawei.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/AYq8cmysKCTzRl4FDwBqiPpzs6A sergio.belotti@nokia.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/h-qWVRJlfTO0FM0T5G9pDc6qxCg victor.lopezalvarez@telefonica.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/vhPdyQlrFzgJYRZR5iH1sG6fC7M oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com: AnSharma@infinera.com: shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn: ricard.vilalta@cttc.es: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/eSdHZDNEGpjI0Qcjh54d9dP3K2s karthik.sethuraman@necam.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/OJMXUofiHvfz7xTEQyKXaYuDokI michael.scharf@nokia.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/had-QPVgOq5tlIIS3AUuauOVfjI daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/BgFcuefbXPuo3KgO3ScyUz2RoM0 dieter.beller@nokia.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/Eveoh_6DaST7MT_bnSV_rtfoJm4 gianmarco.bruno@ericsson.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/bmGfMebHZ2vPoz-7b4Zmi--uFdY francesco.lazzeri@ericsson.com: leeyoung@huawei.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/llp3hjCMLZlxnUdgOLwj0qldrYU carlo.perocchio@ericsson.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/WkEbQXAz7KzDsZejenHP1ffesnY Missing: oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com AnSharma@infinera.com shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn francesco.lazzeri@ericsson.com From nobody Fri Oct 13 14:26:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9707D1321B6; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:26:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150793001761.23894.10749679044797932615.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:26:57 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] The TEAS WG has placed draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:26:58 -0000 The TEAS WG has placed draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Vishnu Beeram) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang/ Comment: IPR Poll: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/8Ol3XufTSnmRovqurgVgDU1kCR0 leeyoung@huawei.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/MYuBaFUVXVz9lLo6rwoq8g65MsY zhenghaomian@huawei.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/Anz07cClxlSlZjdUGT7TclYz7U8 daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/4kBgAOMTnbwWUtvVydCAIwcLpgI byyun@etri.re.kr: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/dneHJ6uj2A0KPC8arIu2K0zNJDs oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com: jongyoon.shin@sk.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/8FwDMyBubE_KdGOgofIcU02hJx0 sergio.belotti@nokia.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/Tin89akRDSSJvL7b442W85I-W0I dhruv.dhody@huawei.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/EAjdfJg8hrijew0VZqr6zQtAghU zhang.xian@huawei.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/lBLB7-qNT9zJe6r-9h-8qNUVgLY Missing: oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com From nobody Fri Oct 13 16:33:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331DB13421F for ; 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A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: nokia.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nokia.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 13 Oct 2017 23:33:39.1186 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM5PR0701MB2548 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 23:33:45 -0000 Hi Daniele, Inline... > Hi Michael, >=20 > sorry for the delay in answering. > Thanks for the review and comments that can help improving the document. > Please see in line. >=20 > BR > Daniele (for the authors) >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) > > [mailto:michael.scharf@nokia.com] > > Sent: mercoled=EC 4 ottobre 2017 19:22 > > To: Daniele Ceccarelli ; > > teas@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > > > > Wouldn't it make sense to add a better explanation on what the ACTN > > framework as described in this document does _not_ try to provide? > > > > For instance, the document apparently doesn't cover service assurance > > functions such as fault management. I am not sure how e.g. alarm > > correlation between multiple PNCs (possibly at different layers) would > > work in the ACTN framework as described in the document. But probably > > fault management and mechanisms such as alarm correlation and > > root-cause analysis are not in scope of ACTN? >=20 > [>DC] We have Section 8 (Manageability Consideration) where a high-level > management issue related to ACTN is discussed. We can surely add a coupl= e > of sentences to make more clear that ACTN would not reinvent Network > Management System (NMS) or can act on behalf of but it indeed can > complement NMS in controlling a TE network. We do not foresee to add > specific tool regarding fault management as part of ACTN scope but ,if > anything, exploiting IETF tools that have already been defined or are wor= k in > progress will be evaluated to support ACTN requirements such as > performance monitoring, etc. I agree that fault management is outside the scope of ACTN.=20 Yet, I believe that the document has to clearly spell out that the ACTN int= erfaces focus on the traffic engineering for virtual networks. A network op= erator may have many other operational tasks for service fulfillment, optim= ization, and assurance that are not considered in the ACTN framework. Given= the focus of ACTN on TE, the interfaces of ACTN may not be sufficient to r= ealize these other tasks. The challenge can e.g. be seen in Figure 5: A network orchestrator may e.g.= be used for alarm collection and alarm correlation, even if this network m= anagement function is not in scope of ACTN. Such a network orchestrator may= require quite some topology details from the domain controller that implem= ents PNC functions. As a result, while e.g. for the MDSC function in the ne= twork orchestrator a black topology abstraction might work, the network orc= hestrator may need white topology details for non-ACTN OAM functions. The easiest solution to deal with this issue is IMHO to add some wording li= ke the following one: NEW:=20 The ACTN framework and interfaces are defined to enable traffic engineering= for virtual networks. Network operators may have other=20 Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) tasks for service fulfill= ment, optimization, and assurance beyond traffic engineering. The realizati= on of OAM beyond abstraction and control of traffic engineered networks is = not considered in this document.=20 > > Also, as far as I can see, except for Appendix B there is no network > > topology example that shows how ACTN would indeed apply to a > > multi-layer network (e.g., IP/MPLS over OTN). And IMHO the example in > > Appendix B is too simple as it shows only *one* IP/MPLS PNC and *one* > > Optical PNC, which may not be a realistic deployment in a larger > > network operators. As a result, I suggest to either remove Appendix B > > or to replace it by a more realistic topology example with multiple > > PNCs (both at IP/MPLS and Optical layer) as well as an actual > > explanation how ACTN would deal with multiple PNCs and multiple layers, > i.e., an actual example what topology would be seen by which MDSC. > > To me, the current content in Appendix B doesn't really prove that the > > ACTN concepts indeed work for larger multi-layer scenarios. I'd also > > be fine with an explicit statement that the applicability of ACTN to > > multi-layer network deployments is not in scope of the document. >=20 > [>DC] Multi-layer is in scope of ACTN (as discussed in Section 4.1.). If = you feel There is no example for application of ACTN to an actual "multi-layer" use = case in the document. And the term "layer" is used inconsistently in the do= cument, which I find confusing. For instance, the example in Section 5.4 ca= n be realized with different technologies in each domain, but this only sho= ws that ACTN can apply to different technologies that provide end-to-end co= nnectivity. At least in my understanding "multi-layer" has a broader scope. I think this confusion could be avoided in Section 4.1 as follows: OLD: Another implementation choice could foresee the usage of an MDSC-L for all the PNCs related to a given network layer or technology (e.g. IP/MPLS) a different MDSC-L for the PNCs related to another layer/technology (e.g. OTN/WDM) and an MDSC-H to coordinate them. NEW: Another implementation choice could foresee the usage of an MDSC-L for all the PNCs related to a given technology (e.g. IP/MPLS) and a different MDSC-L for the PNCs related to another technology (e.g. OTN/WDM) and an MDSC-H to coordinate them. An alternative solution would be to entirely remove this paragraph, as ther= e is no network topology example for this "implementation choice", which wo= uld be needed to explain how such an implementation would work and e.g. wha= t abstraction would be used by the MDSC-L and MDSC-H in that case. Without = backing by an actual topology example, I don't think that such handwaving a= dds value to the document. Non-trivial examples IMHO belong to another document with a more detailed a= nalysis and actual examples. > Appendix B does not provide sufficient details for multi-layer network > implementation scenario (e.g., IP/MPLS over optical), we can remove > Appendix B. A framework document should in principle highlight architectu= ral > aspects so applicability part would be not essential. On the other end yo= ur > question and comment makes clear the need to develop a new draft where > detailed implementation of multi-layer scenarios can be discussed and thi= s > document should become the reference as specific > implementation/applicability questions arise . Removing appendix B seems appropriate. I believe that the applicability of ACTN to multi-layer use cases requires = further discussion and an analysis of actual multi-layer topology examples.= Multi-layer use cases can become pretty complex. For instance, if multiple= layers are considered, this could imply that the connectivity is achieved = by composite services (see draft-chen-opsawg-composite-vpn-dm-00 for some e= xample). I have some doubts whether the ACTN framework document is the best= place to discuss all the implications of complex "multi-layer" cases. Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele > > > Ceccarelli > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 5:30 PM > > > To: teas@ietf.org > > > Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: > > > draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > > > > > > Dear WG, > > > > > > we submitted a new version of the ACTN framework draft which does > > > not introduce or modify any concept but that is the result of a > > > heavy text > > > re- adjustment (thanks a lot Adrian for the huge effort) to improve > > > readability and get rid of duplicated and redundant text. > > > > > > The authors and contributors think this is ready for WG LC and would > > > appreciate your comments to the list. > > > > > > BR > > > Daniele (for the co-authors) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > > > > drafts@ietf.org > > > > Sent: mercoled=EC 4 ottobre 2017 17:15 > > > > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > > > > Cc: teas@ietf.org > > > > Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > > directories. > > > > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture > > > > and Signaling WG of the IETF. > > > > > > > > Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of = Traffic > > Engineered > > > > Networks > > > > Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > > > > Young Lee > > > > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08.txt > > > > Pages : 37 > > > > Date : 2017-10-04 > > > > > > > > Abstract: > > > > Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > > > > facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. T= hey > > > > also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > > > > configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > > > > represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > > > > networking. > > > > > > > > Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be appl= ied > > > > to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create = a > > > > single virtualized network that is under the control of a networ= k > > > > operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > > > > the network resources. > > > > > > > > This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control o= f > > > > Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > > > > > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-08 > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framewo > > > > rk > > > > -0 > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-= 0 > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > > > > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > > tools.ietf.org. > > > > > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Teas mailing list > > > > Teas@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Teas mailing list > > > Teas@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Fri Oct 13 18:51:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F710133245; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Dieter, On Oct 5, 2017 06:56, "Dieter Beller" wrote: Hi Spencer, thanks for your review comment. We propose the following change to address your comment (blue text added): 0x04 =3D Penultimate node exception Indicates that the penultimate node of the LSP being signaled MAY be shared with the excluded path even when this violates the exclusion flags. The penultimate node exception flag is typically set when the destination node is single homed (e.g. EN1 or EN4 in Figure 1). In such a case, LSP diversity can only be accomplished inside the core network up to the egress node and the penultimate hop must be the same for the LSPs. Please let us know if this adequately addresses your comment. This does, thanks for considering my comment, and I apologize for the delay in responding - I assume I was thinking about the QUIC interim when you sent your note. Deborah, thanks for the nudge! Spencer Thanks, Dieter and co-authors On 28.08.2017 03:55, Spencer Dawkins wrote: Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I=E2=80=99m looking at this text, 0x04 =3D Penultimate node exception Indicates that the penultimate node of the LSP being signaled MAY be shared with the excluded path even when this violates the exclusion flags. and wondering whether you could either provide some recommendation about do= ing this/not doing this, or give an example of why doing this/not doing this ma= kes operational sense. The other exceptions do make sense to me, so I=E2=80=99m= only curious about this one. --001a113f2bd2868777055b7802d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Dieter,

On Oct 5, 2017 06:56, "Dieter Beller" <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com> wr= ote:
=20 =20 =20
Hi Spencer,

thanks for your review comment. We propose the following change to address your comment (blue text added):


=20

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0x04 =3D Penultimate node exception

Indicates that the penultimate node of the LSP being signaled MAY be shared with the excluded path even when this violates the exclusion flags.

The penultimate node exception flag is typically set when the destination node is single homed (e.g. EN1 or EN4 in Figure 1). In such a case, LSP diversity can only be accomplished inside the core network up to the egress node and the penultimate hop must be the same for the LSPs.



Please let us know if this adequately addresses your comment.
=

This does, thanks for considering my comment, and I apologize for the del= ay in responding - I assume I was thinking about the QUIC interim when you = sent your note.

Deborah,= thanks for the nudge!

S= pencer

Thanks,
Dieter and co-authors



On 28.08.2017 03:5= 5, Spencer Dawkins wrote:
Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection

When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
introductory paragraph, however.)


Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html=

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The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
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I=E2=80=99m looking at this text,

           0x04 =3D Penultimate node exception

               Indicates that the penultimate node of the LSP being
               signaled MAY be shared with the excluded path even when
               this violates the exclusion flags.

and wondering whether you could either provide some recommendation about do=
ing
this/not doing this, or give an example of why doing this/not doing this ma=
kes
operational sense. The other exceptions do make sense to me, so I=E2=80=99m=
 only
curious about this one.


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The IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2893/ Regards, Dhruv On Saturday, October 7, 2017, Vishnu Pavan Beeram > wrote: > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. 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Regards,
Dhruv

On Saturday, October 7, 2017, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Last Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S<= br> TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
response.
--001a113edbcefe125e055b9f3803-- From nobody Sun Oct 15 17:53:30 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D366D133068; Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:53:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150811520281.32735.10580264133127457672@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:53:22 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection-09.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 00:53:23 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Extensions to RSVP-TE for LSP Egress Local Protection Authors : Huaimo Chen Autumn Liu Tarek Saad Fengman Xu Lu Huang Filename : draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection-09.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2017-10-15 Abstract: This document describes extensions to Resource Reservation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) for locally protecting the egress node(s) of a Point-to-Point (P2P) or Point-to-Multipoint (P2MP) Traffic Engineered (TE) Label Switched Path (LSP). 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This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Extensions to RSVP-TE for LSP Ingress FRR Protection Authors : Huaimo Chen Raveendra Torvi Filename : draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-ingress-protection-11.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2017-10-15 Abstract: This document describes extensions to Resource Reservation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) for locally protecting the ingress node of a Point-to-Point (P2P) or Point-to-Multipoint (P2MP) Traffic Engineered (TE) Label Switched Path (LSP). 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spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D60A3395141986oscargonzalezdediostelefonicacom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: telefonica.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 16 Oct 2017 08:00:31.5032 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 9744600e-3e04-492e-baa1-25ec245c6f10 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VI1SPR01MB02 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 08:00:39 -0000 --_000_D60A3395141986oscargonzalezdediostelefonicacom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best regards, Oscar De: Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Fecha: viernes, 6 de octubre de 2017, 23:14 Para: Leeyoung >, "zhenghao= mian@huawei.com" >, Daniele Ceccarelli >, "byyun@etri.re.kr" >, Oscar Gon= zalez de Dios >, "jongyoon.shin@sk.com" <= jongyoon.shin@sk.com>, "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia= - IT)" >, Dhruv = Dhody >, "zhang.xian@= huawei.com" > CC: "teas@ietf.org" > Asunto: Regarding IPR on draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. 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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.
 
Best regards,

Oscar 

De: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Fecha: viernes, 6 de octubre de 201= 7, 23:14
Para: Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>, "zhenghaomian@huawei.com" <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>, Daniele Ceccarelli <= daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>, "byyun@etri.re.kr" <= byyun@etri.re.kr>, Oscar Gonzalez de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>= ;, "jongyoon.shin@sk.com&quo= t; <jongyoon.shin@sk.com>= , "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT)" <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.dhody@huawei.com>, "zhang.xian@huawei.com&q= uot; <zhang.xian@huawei.com= >
CC: "teas@ietf.org" <teas@i= etf.org>
Asunto: Regarding IPR on draft-zhan= g-teas-actn-yang-05

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S
TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/= group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
response.


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Attendees: Igor, Xufeng, Carlo, Dieter, Young, Italo=

 

- Discussed the reviews comments from Lou=

  > Reviewed the prepared draft updates.

 

- Discussed two issues from CCAMP Transport NBI Desi= gn Team

  > plug-id needs to support more than 32bit= , better to be flexible

    o Agreed to use binary type<= /o:p>

 

  > plug-id is currently on a TE link. For a= unidirectional access

    link between two domains, destina= tion side does not have the

    plug-id information.

    o Agree to fix this issue by movi= ng the plug-id from link to

      link-termination-poin= t.

 

Thanks,

 

- Xufeng

--_000_BN3PR0201MB08678168C32751B56D44B334F1420BN3PR0201MB0867_-- From nobody Fri Oct 20 07:53:52 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A8713421A for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:53:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jNKZuDY1-Ujy for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C93731331D9 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CMOut01 (unknown [10.0.90.82]) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0311406B2 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:53:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id Pqti1w00R2SSUrH01qtltp; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:53:46 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=K4VSJ2eI c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=02M-m0pO-4AA:10 a=ri0MzPERGHgdVGHnxEEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Cc:To:Subject:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Yqz41OSHW9mkSrS22RJ5Q4nvNDeN/cXuBmhYbBSja70=; b=gLk2u6PgzA6FeAg5J2Ck506v+h qAVYCX6nth8ssf7JZ77nU3J4+wN1zjCfVsdWnj+lVeOdJddYTMgukF/3dsLzUwgBmavLjsn/q9qag 6w+wsPjBwbRX7EjLnqdBYfJI/; Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:43096 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e5YgA-003ye8-JB; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:53:42 -0600 From: Lou Berger To: TEAS WG Cc: TEAS WG Chairs , draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec@ietf.org Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:53:40 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1e5YgA-003ye8-JB X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:43096 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:53:50 -0000 All, This starts a *two* week working group last call on draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01. 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Thank you, TEAS Chairs From nobody Fri Oct 20 09:54:41 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC5B132D17 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4O14EGNAMpHS for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5C8013235C for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw3 (unknown [10.0.90.84]) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B411E1214 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:54:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id Psua1w00H2SSUrH01sudRD; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:54:38 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=H76r+6Qi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=02M-m0pO-4AA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=6oOWi583SLzXmj8_OnsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:References:Cc:To:From:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=dQ7Cq7/OwGowTF2uKYK68DrNNma/WgqgkDkIi7cTRtA=; b=CMKmEgCwiGD4o7Agd2VntCMVKc LBchUpY39la8ixzcQE0l1RgjJx4x/oaoWU4dCrE3iITT/52Kh9luhwpAdQ+gNLKvC6MulrF4Vl7U4 eJO1aTUVaYlrV14aQw2mCaGzL; Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:49038 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e5aZ8-004N17-Co; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:54:34 -0600 From: Lou Berger To: TEAS WG Cc: draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec@ietf.org, TEAS WG Chairs , mpls@ietf.org References: Message-ID: <4f8fe0f0-d1cf-8370-a91e-9269ccde3521@labn.net> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:54:33 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1e5aZ8-004N17-Co X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:49038 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 4 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 16:54:40 -0000 Sigh, please ignore the 2nd sentence in the 1st paragraph - it was carried over from a previous LC I initiated (on te-topo)... On 10/20/2017 10:53 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > All, > > This starts a *two* week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01. This last call is > extended due to the size of the document and it being the > first YANG model going to LC within the group > > The working group last call ends on November 3. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > TEAS Chairs > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Fri Oct 20 12:06:13 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13352134308; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FM92wAb0gjQ2; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D9CF132320; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:06:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1365; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1508526370; x=1509735970; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=2BaGajQ7jAJJaZud2drIt9H90ulLm01VV0zOz4Ged9g=; b=XQE4p0faNfxAK/gj0KLz/YSTjIC8RTqiALvsKm60ss3Sx8CT5TGN/TFR aMOCT43QNktgg64GzR8Y2MDy93UEpkJa1JbyEJMLBX7Cug/ouPgcettx/ HZ8XcRNgv8c30bKgZuqhp3pUZOslO2ot/M6eUQj/fQb/A7j1+x699UsYT 4=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0C1AQDeR+pZ/4wNJK1cGQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBBwEBAQEBg1+BUi6dUZgxghEKhTuEPUEWAQIBAQEBAQEBayiFXj8SAT5CJgE?= =?us-ascii?q?EDg2KGK1miyEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBASGDLoIHgVCBaY4kBaFfAoFsknqCH?= =?us-ascii?q?oV5ixGKJIspAhEZAYE4ASYHKoFbehVJgmWEXokSBIEvAYEQAQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.43,408,1503360000"; d="scan'208";a="313339134" Received: from alln-core-7.cisco.com ([173.36.13.140]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 20 Oct 2017 19:06:09 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com (xch-rcd-005.cisco.com [173.37.102.15]) by alln-core-7.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v9KJ69hW024833 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:06:09 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com (173.37.102.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:06:08 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1320.000; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:06:08 -0500 From: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" To: "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" CC: "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" Thread-Topic: Agenda requests for Singapore Thread-Index: AdNJ1ZXbUISybKQMSCyBDYMi8VpXIA== Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:06:08 +0000 Message-ID: <855f488557a7483489922a55fe3a00b6@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.213.33] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] Agenda requests for Singapore X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:06:12 -0000 All, The agenda for Singapore is out. It's currently still showing as preliminar= y, but it's due for official publication today so I don't expect it to chan= ge. TEAS is meeting from 9:30 - 12 on Tuesday, November 14 in Canning. If you have a draft you'd like to present, please send a request to me and = the Chairs by the end of next Friday (October 27th) and tell us how long yo= u need. If a draft isn't being presented, please be prepared to send an upd= ate on it to the list. We'll be asking for slides and updates to be sent by Friday November 14th s= o that we can get them all uploaded. Thanks Matt, Lou and Pavan Important dates: 2017-10-30 (Monday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all drafts, inc= luding -00) by UTC 23:59, upload using IETF ID Submission Tool. 2017-10-30 (Monday): Draft Working Group agendas due by UTC 23:59, upload u= sing IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool. 2017-11-03 (Friday): Early Bird registration and payment cut-off at UTC 23:= 59. 2017-11-06 (Monday): Revised Working Group agendas due by UTC 23:59, upload= using IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool. 2017-11-06 (Monday): Registration cancellation cut-off at UTC 23:59. 2017-11-10 (Friday): Final Pre-Registration and Pre-Payment cut-off at 17:0= 0 local meeting time. 2017-11-12 - 2017-11-17: IETF 100 in Singapore From nobody Fri Oct 20 17:32:25 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5F71331D9; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:24:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: db3546@att.com, teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150854547285.20809.4935840696476242354.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:24:32 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] teas - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 100 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 00:24:33 -0000 Dear Vishnu Beeram, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. teas Session 1 (2:30:00) Tuesday, Morning Session I 0930-1200 Room Name: Canning size: 250 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Vishnu Beeram Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 100 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: mpls ccamp pce rtgwg netmod detnet Second Priority: idr i2rs spring ospf Third Priority: pals bess nvo3 isis People who must be present: Lou Berger Deborah Brungard Vishnu Pavan Beeram Resources Requested: Special Requests: Other Conflicts: IRTF RRG, RTG BOFs --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Sun Oct 22 12:24:24 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545D313AB1E; 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Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:00:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.161.137 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:00:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:00:30 -0400 Message-ID: To: Lou Berger Cc: TEAS WG , draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec@ietf.org, TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:00:35 -0000 I've read the current version again (as a co-author) and I believe it is ready for publication. Regards, -Pavan On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > All, > > This starts a *two* week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01. This last call is > extended due to the size of the document and it being the > first YANG model going to LC within the group > > The working group last call ends on November 3. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > TEAS Chairs > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Mon Oct 23 08:44:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECAB1393A5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:44:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=botwerks.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LqqTYv_Araof for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk0-x236.google.com (mail-vk0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56526139394 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x236.google.com with SMTP id r82so11401657vke.6 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=botwerks.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=6L/XGih0FFEb5j98g+U7n+fuUZtlTJ9jTlk0pd23784=; b=BQgbfWgJI9chPg1NcvtdJPjh3L3kiSt13KeR0SWejXzOM8G19Pe+a/GNDCY+Fcf8po WLkbZIaisxkT4gtDsYvzUsgDDg1pZ8sFuPQ3LH8esMDw8HHFP9NohtQYXH53XouqQa8Q 9029KkDETJJsrL6D6pMh6gtqUg5arrJTf7o3M= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6L/XGih0FFEb5j98g+U7n+fuUZtlTJ9jTlk0pd23784=; b=r2rG8UgJtflyRAbg9+t58uv9FGn9Bk/1R3tVYNbHjPo5YLaTXuJ34Pka/N5RzygnsF wrMMYgmbIyazFbhCjCpC/xH7IkdxjLFhDVQ7dRGsOAEFh6gexUxYnye+TxuCF9VVNHo+ gd3xzicx3WX3NdIO3WAzAJvFQRzX79SkaEB8JT53K+Nn8w9DJvSNSueLE+atMmuqJYcP IWa7FS4RP8QpycS15TUntvYgZbo4X14CTXI/jWov0Mh5Ts+cfUC1BNTu7lcfnmFKaQal xecG3nlBSnHCxxE92ncH2eP8DetzoYH6UWuyTFjy0YAOtENo1MXo91NqHC6D5U0moKc6 v36A== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUH3p0MXZRl4ewY2OzLwIz7jxsNb1ByyoF3KyBQ3WxjOq8Vd6aD jitaOqxy2ONcwYZNQIWrcaQMR0gJuti/RU0BlLP0AA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+TbUDGP1bxDM3zqEQDF4gWrXQF00DmJt1D4GY8/RO2mpqNyNuGstLWVHUZA2cnTPDZUg1TgtoFWFM0hNjLPrvc= X-Received: by 10.31.161.5 with SMTP id k5mr10393684vke.96.1508773457069; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:44:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.81.66 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:44:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: steve ulrich Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:44:16 -0500 Message-ID: To: Lou Berger Cc: TEAS WG , draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec@ietf.org, TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11466b6af4cd05055c38b1c2" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:44:21 -0000 --001a11466b6af4cd05055c38b1c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" this document provides useful guidance and considerations for operators and implementors looking to enable SR within RSVP networks. i've reviewed the latest version of this document and support its publication. On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > All, > > This starts a *two* week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01. This last call is > extended due to the size of the document and it being the > first YANG model going to LC within the group > > The working group last call ends on November 3. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > TEAS Chairs > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > -- steve ulrich (sulrich@botwerks.*) --001a11466b6af4cd05055c38b1c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this document provides useful guidance and consideratio= ns for operators and implementors looking to enable SR within RSVP networks= . i've reviewed the latest version of this document and support its pub= lication.=C2=A0=C2=A0

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.= net> wrote:
All,

This starts a *two* week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01.=C2=A0 This last call is extended due to the size of the document and it being the
first YANG model going to LC within the group

The working group last call ends on November 3.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
TEAS Chairs

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Teas mailing list
Teas@ietf.org
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Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If = yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed = once the document is a WG document. The poll ends Nov 6th. Thanks, Pavan and Lou _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Mon Oct 23 09:13:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A6C137ED6 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 09:13:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.619 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.619 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uSPW426ul-DE for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 09:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60E5E139546 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 09:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v9NGD1Dm016856; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:13:01 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (105.76.115.87.dyn.plus.net [87.115.76.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v9NGCxEw016793 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:13:00 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Vishnu Pavan Beeram'" , , , "'Huaimo Chen'" , , "'Dhruv Dhody'" Cc: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:12:59 +0100 Message-ID: <06f801d34c19$cc79e3f0$656dabd0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_06F9_01D34C22.2E4306E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJrTi4haE8klEddctgO4vWrIuAw5KHBlvcg Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.1.0.1062-23414.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--17.771-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--17.771-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: Ync95tbzDRku+wj2GNtoWeLdprnA5EQRQrO4XR6BRQM2KlZKA26MkQVn a6MeQT2th/90MLI5dikbBwy3LEhCI0d2G5hiQttMF6z9HGHKwNuB01driWko2/Pab+iVeGnNXvb V/VnUv0rz6xFyOdgkscOFOHoa0LX+y7e/WVbpHztmVHNo7XGknW79evoIpeI3mmzaGKIwUHaAvG IDnCswPdQaD1hgLSvdc4+2jJpVwaEp23mj39P7ak+4wmL9kCTxS0pipcWJ0S7agsZM0qVv1xQX0 Ci7mTQksHABAwbw/Vpskvh6ucexrJZK7fsqplGh71Wx2uUbPLdDr8MVm6DK3TA4N9SXuYkp/hkB Sy3LYQ17CjyP3UZ5MbpGAQ2wD/3Qyx6w4CJ+2uX2Ii0VSfdeQzuvYa1v2IFhTx0U/40+rr7a6BB kIrnTcudLZPVW5sDNedxyf/baQ0eb2ohNz0F+pNT+TcIhUUCBZJAk04EAz2Un+p552csI1Y/sYB BJ7n+d9sFE6GfY4gY8LuP+bOkMWp8voPxO05mszzuzg6dga4Iytf6nW43O0D3dpxIEGwCa8FhGj Tp5WPfe2M7eE7V+nawvTQpsPBALizFhECDuofD4pTO56aJ0/JAX3UzEQF1GpRezBf/GshJ4ouZE jkeLRrCZGEu3G/I6hgKF4YW7GyAvebl6MJ1oUZ0K2Qyuw606mRKFhwukYf1kzblkBbANhmAQRn3 L+ljhjSJ3SkiGrFPXkuVVlJMsPZx6Ilif8OzGL4+sB3yBscktlZY1WAfRjbLLTvamG8BJo8WMkQ Wv6iXoC+VlRHhOyFlmYwhSwhAaIAcCikR3vq9eb139jNY8PISAlcVD7d5BsaOSNieEftPVFOTQ4 O2n0HirTfTfHwJS Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:13:20 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_06F9_01D34C22.2E4306E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apologies, apparently I missed this. =20 "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" =20 Adrian =20 From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan = Beeram Sent: 06 October 2017 22:08 To: zhuangyan.zhuang@huawei.com; bill.wu@huawei.com; Huaimo Chen; = afarrel@juniper.net; Dhruv Dhody Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 =20 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, TEAS WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. ------=_NextPart_000_06F9_01D34C22.2E4306E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Apologies, apparently I missed = this.

 

"No, I'm not aware of any = IPR that applies to this draft"

 

Adrian

 

From: Teas = [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan = Beeram
Sent: 06 October 2017 22:08
To: = zhuangyan.zhuang@huawei.com; bill.wu@huawei.com; Huaimo Chen; = afarrel@juniper.net; Dhruv Dhody
Cc: = teas@ietf.org
Subject: [Teas] Regarding IPR on = draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03

<= p class=3DMsoNormal> 

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the = preparation for WG Last Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that = applies to drafts identified above?

Please state = either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this = draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this = draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with = IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more = details)?

If yes to the above, please state = either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with = IETF IPR rules"
or
"No, the IPR has not been = disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional = details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document = author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this = email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. = This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has = been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS = APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S
TO LINES.

If = you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not = listed
as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations = under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if = you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain = from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to = your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs = listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/Intelle= ctualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

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All,

This is start of a two week poll on making
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support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
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--001a1147a262531070055c392eea-- From nobody Mon Oct 23 09:41:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB999138105; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 09:41:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.219 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.219 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9PWiP9WACbhE; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 09:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 136461380DB; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 09:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DYH48070; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:41:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:41:46 +0100 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.102]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.104]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 09:41:40 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: TEAS WG CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt Thread-Index: AQHTSFhlmbB+vaIch0ak7NmpFYNXi6LqIOkggAeJIaA= Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:41:40 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF357DF@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <150836224298.12498.8605210594753187489@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.218.137.229] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A010202.59EE1BCB.0068, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.1.102, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 49e11a50c5585fed797e2284f9f5ba46 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:41:52 -0000 Hi,=20 With -10, we have addressed all comments that we have received and believe = that the document is complete and ready for WG last call. The companion dra= fts (i.e., ACTN requirements and Info Model) are already completely align= ed with the Framework Draft (This version). Obviously some other documents = will need to be updated to bring them in synch especially with minor change= s in the terminology, but we do not think that those changes are in anyway = gating the progress of this draft through WG LC and RFC publication. We'd appreciate your comment on this version 10 which was published last we= ek.=20 Thanks & Best regards, Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) -----Original Message----- From: Leeyoung=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:37 PM To: TEAS WG Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt Hi, This update was the result of offline discussions with the chairs. The onl= y change is Section 5.5 where VN recursion with network layers was added pe= r Chairs' request.=20 Hope this is the last change (until the next one) :) =20 Thanks & Best regards, Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors). -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:31 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF. Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic = Engineered Networks Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli Young Lee Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2017-10-18 Abstract: Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic networking. Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a single virtualized network that is under the control of a network operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns the network resources. This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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From nobody Mon Oct 23 15:38:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A661E13AB2B; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:38:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WrKm6GMKp-lK; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F37313AB3E; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v9NMcA6i026571; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:38:10 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (105.76.115.87.dyn.plus.net [87.115.76.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v9NMc8qQ026531 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:38:09 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Vishnu Pavan Beeram'" , Cc: "'TEAS WG Chairs'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:38:08 +0100 Message-ID: <07cb01d34c4f$9a52ee90$cef8cbb0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHSGIeAJ2HryieLhVo2nvvx9dVgM6L0bAtw Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.1.0.1062-23414.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--12.427-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--12.427-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: L8tZF6zWW2qnykMun0J1wnuzDvI75j0s4B7aueLmU0BzudJS0nma3lVa zIZBiETDpNkGX2Ew1qX1eYqS1Vs15rVQA3a8+5My8eSmTJSmEv1R3sGN+j7mNOoWVODXAWfc0u5 faGP8ztQX0KNZelYTH5YClg/1C4Z2peAIK6XfhPqZroPNdqiG8wuK1hIitSIH9YBezwhBfW5n0w 5FSPQF6OZtkx1wl9IfT4tWGLYgXFNkHsVpDopD30K9qlwiTElfdZPoD9V2prSbKItl61J/ycnjL TA/UDoApPKClyoUSzyNo+PRbWqfRDsAVzN+Ov/sAuBO4k0oKFlpr1OvhpBl4NmEvZtkecyOoNcW n8mzYISwmyBSErLoKA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:38:20 -0000 Hoorah! Thanks Pavan. As a co-author, I think this draft is ready. We have kept it up to date and watched the solutions work develop in the PCE WG. That solutions work seems to be in line with this document and has not uncovered any issues or questions that this document needs to address. Best, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Sent: 23 October 2017 20:09 > To: teas@ietf.org > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 > > All, > This starts a two-week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 > > The working group last call ends on Nov 6th. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > Pavan and Lou. > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Mon Oct 23 15:38:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEBC13AC0D; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:38:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W5v3PHP_q85T; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9271413AAFF; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v9NMc9CF026545; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:38:09 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (105.76.115.87.dyn.plus.net [87.115.76.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v9NMc8qP026531 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:38:09 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Leeyoung'" , "'TEAS WG'" Cc: "'TEAS WG Chairs'" References: <150836224298.12498.8605210594753187489@ietfa.amsl.com> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF357DF@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF357DF@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:38:08 +0100 Message-ID: <07ca01d34c4f$9a0bfa80$ce23ef80$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGrJhArpHV6Nl9MkVMEOU0qpf0PSwHJteynozQEUzA= Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.1.0.1062-23414.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--27.300-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--27.300-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: C/snMIRQLS0wJ6xbTjBa5lt3XMydUaMX9mnDjfUPq54ifM7JMNHW6xEK 4a4vj671slfyk/0GQ1nxTwx4UJIMcsSsicU7ThvNlVHM/F6YkvQ7UrmIzxDooM1BXOF9hjmyxWv oa1CgRvr1Ewy14z2zG+PKPOoQj8Zl8P4Bf0DnMRv9vE/QVDV5IdRmti/O6j0Cl5li1yyRX08Rfj liohTl1GIwBbALicP11cH5jO5DRlhqia4DgZhuqsAmcZEx8XHJlnrMq7Sriu3IvQIyugvKdbJVv 13dZNfHlp62BJaxlbpwDA6yjAj5UveCv1PcqE/eCLNfGU4dffgZKp0SZ4P+dWs+NMPxGnvBZ6WG oMAL2MnZS8XOqLiVLXJ85V4HLNlsU69nkRhdQ4rDr0AjBcmfRvioIsi7Sa0gWltirZ/iPP6yVAY nENNRkYXVQYc2L3D+KzovdsVk88F/joQtSekNLJ4CIKY/Hg3AtOt1ofVlaoKm8jxRk5/juBzhYv kmN3zwjaPj0W1qn0SQZS2ujCtcuA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:38:28 -0000 All, I'm sorry that I'm the cause of a lot of the changes in the last couple of revisions. The authors have been most accommodating of my requests and suggestions for changes and I think the resulting document is a whole lot clearer. I have no further issues with this document. Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leeyoung > Sent: 23 October 2017 17:42 > To: TEAS WG > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > > Hi, > > With -10, we have addressed all comments that we have received and believe > that the document is complete and ready for WG last call. The companion drafts > (i.e., ACTN requirements and Info Model) are already completely aligned with > the Framework Draft (This version). Obviously some other documents will need > to be updated to bring them in synch especially with minor changes in the > terminology, but we do not think that those changes are in anyway gating the > progress of this draft through WG LC and RFC publication. > > We'd appreciate your comment on this version 10 which was published last week. > > Thanks & Best regards, > Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leeyoung > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:37 PM > To: TEAS WG > Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > > Hi, > > This update was the result of offline discussions with the chairs. The only change > is Section 5.5 where VN recursion with network layers was added per Chairs' > request. > > Hope this is the last change (until the next one) :) > > Thanks & Best regards, > Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors). > > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:31 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: teas@ietf.org > Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG > of the IETF. > > Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered > Networks > Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > Young Lee > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > Pages : 37 > Date : 2017-10-18 > > Abstract: > Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They > also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > networking. > > Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied > to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > the network resources. > > This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Mon Oct 23 17:58:57 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FE9139976; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:58:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c8uzOnyKbKyt; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 126A2139507; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DRE83746; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 00:58:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.38) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 01:58:50 +0100 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.102]) by SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.145]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:58:47 -0700 From: Huaimo Chen To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "teas@ietf.org" CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 Thread-Index: AQHTTDKCysQX1a2WjUqEH0IT1eF8naLyLLJw Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 00:58:45 +0000 Message-ID: <5316A0AB3C851246A7CA5758973207D463A10C5F@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.158.154] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A010205.59EE904C.0028, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.1.102, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: d4d4ec23f998b0a7f6e6128194b6e0f1 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 00:58:56 -0000 I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication Best Regards, Huaimo (co-author) -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 3:09 PM To: teas@ietf.org Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Subject: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 All, This starts a two-week working group last call on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 The working group last call ends on Nov 6th. Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and believe it is rea= dy for publication", are welcome! This is useful and important, even from authors. Thank you, Pavan and Lou. _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Tue Oct 24 00:44:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61A613DB39; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 00:44:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X6f1ZlB4m5HJ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 00:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9B2213DA67; 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A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: ericsson.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 7f8f063b-229b-4fe0-e263-08d51ac6053f X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 24 Oct 2017 10:00:13.5462 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 92e84ceb-fbfd-47ab-be52-080c6b87953f X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR0701MB2715 X-OriginatorOrg: ericsson.com X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA02SYUhTURTHue+9bW+j1WspHjRBZgpZzRJBERHNDxkoqFBpUTn1MYc6ZW9J CsYwrDlZOlHSqaglWUlMzKmpCM6Fk5KJWzpN+1BTmaGiZFaCtPkW9O13z/2d+7/ncklcpOEE knKFilYqpEViroBoyRryvxB5Yjv7Yr89PLaqfQSLrf41TMS2PXLhiXjKO8MKL6W7+zeWjt0U xOfTRfIyWhmZkCMoWKg94JVq+fffDNl4avSSp0V8EqhoeN4+zvWyiLIgMM5SWiTwsBVB79QU 4V0QlA4Hk2ObYC0DBj17Qay1jmDl1aSnnSS5VBy4zKlex4/KhM/NDtzLOHUWLO5F5OVTVBL8 cdgw1rkMRscGj+UoWP3y+Oh8ggqDQ83MEQupHFhz6jE2Nx0mN424N4pPZcCGIclbRlQw1I8+ Q2xUACy5OjB2MAq6x2w4y/7g/nbIYf1cMFYP+5wQMM1NESwHw1xHLfKOBVQbD6rMYz5JAib9 JmI5DYaqd31SKwJdvdMnnQfj0iiH5QjQWAy+eglY579y2AYnBywfW33SadAbmvF6JDH8d3OW JeBsauSyfA5edH3HDUePcRKmW1xEJyJeI3+GZphiWVSUhFbK8ximRCFR0Kp+5PkfEwMHccNo Yj3JjCgSiY8J191b2SKOtIwpLzYjIHGxn7B311MS5kvLK2hlyV3lvSKaMaMgkhAHCBPHZ7NE lEyqogtpupRW/tvFSH6gGul1MbdtT69p92cHR6LVoT/VDSqsLuxBWHxdRebqWq590S1Lbktv 6Kq8ZR90ZKXemNfmhSzv9VRq5ERX2fGZK/oJa0zAXBoMFNq3+pYfpuzreJnST9d32hut2WcW xppqOrlvk6dDUwfvrNVkXO37YZLtVpD9SwlP3n84DN9ZjhETTIH0UgSuZKR/AVx95WcbAwAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 10:00:24 -0000 Hi Pavan, all, i support this draft to become a WG document (as co-author). I believe this= is an important guideline on how to use IETF YANG models to build the MPI = and the CMI as well as a gap analysis on what is missing.=20 Thanks Daniele =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan > Beeram > Sent: luned=EC 23 ottobre 2017 18:05 > To: teas@ietf.org > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang >=20 > All, >=20 > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not supp= ort". > If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If ye= s, > please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed onc= e > the document is a WG document. >=20 > The poll ends Nov 6th. >=20 > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Tue Oct 24 03:13:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F8713F6F8; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 03:13:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ericsson.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2jwGGs7A_jHU; 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This ID and the solution one were pr= ogressed quite well aligned. Thanks Daniele =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: marted=EC 24 ottobre 2017 00:38 > To: 'Vishnu Pavan Beeram' ; teas@ietf.org > Cc: 'TEAS WG Chairs' > Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-0= 3 >=20 > Hoorah! >=20 > Thanks Pavan. > As a co-author, I think this draft is ready. We have kept it up to date a= nd > watched the solutions work develop in the PCE WG. That solutions work > seems to be in line with this document and has not uncovered any issues o= r > questions that this document needs to address. >=20 > Best, > Adrian >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan > > Beeram > > Sent: 23 October 2017 20:09 > > To: teas@ietf.org > > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > > Subject: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 > > > > All, > > This starts a two-week working group last call on > > draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 > > > > The working group last call ends on Nov 6th. > > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and believe it > > is ready for publication", are welcome! > > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > > > Thank you, > > Pavan and Lou. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Tue Oct 24 05:55:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D658513F75E for ; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft, Best Regards, Oscar De: Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Fecha: viernes, 6 de octubre de 2017, 23:03 Para: Italo Busi >, "Be= lotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT)" >, Victor Lopez >, Oscar Gonzalez de Dios >, Anurag Shar= ma >, "shiyan49@chinaun= icom.cn" >, Ricard Vilalta >, "karthik.sethuraman@necam.com" >, "Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE)" >, Daniele Ceccarelli >, "Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE)" = >, "gianmarco.bruno= @ericsson.com" >, "francesco.lazzeria@ericsson.= com" >, Leeyoung >, Carlo Perocchio > CC: "teas@ietf.org" > Asunto: Regarding IPR on draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? 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Best Regards,

Oscar&= nbsp;

De: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Fecha: viernes, 6 de octubre de 201= 7, 23:03
Para: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>, "Belotti, Se= rgio (Nokia - IT)" <ser= gio.belotti@nokia.com>, Victor Lopez <victor.lopezalvarez@telefonica.com>, Oscar Gonzalez de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>, Anurag Sharma <AnSharma@infinera.com>, "<= a href=3D"mailto:shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn">shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn" <shiyan49@chinaunicom.cn= >, Ricard Vilalta <ricard.v= ilalta@cttc.es>, "karthik.sethuraman@necam.com" <karthik.sethuraman@necam.com>, "Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE)" <michael.scharf@nokia.com>, Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson= .com>, "Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE)" <dieter.beller@nokia.com>, "gianmarco.bruno@eric= sson.com" <gian= marco.bruno@ericsson.com>, "francesco.lazzeria@ericsson.com" <francesco.lazzeria@ericsson.com&g= t;, Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>, Carlo Perocchio <= carlo.perocchio@ericsson.com>
CC: "teas@ietf.org" <teas@i= etf.org>
Asunto: Regarding IPR on draft-busi= bel-teas-yang-path-computation-03

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Adoption Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S
TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/= group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
response.


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Malis" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:47:15 -0400 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?7Jyk67mI7JiB?= Cc: Leeyoung , TEAS WG , TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113d0250c6f401055c4e8836" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:47:39 -0000 --001a113d0250c6f401055c4e8836 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree, it=E2=80=99s time for WG LC. Cheers, Andy On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:07 AM, =EC=9C=A4=EB=B9=88=EC=98=81 wrote: > Hi, > > I read it. > It has been progressed a lot, so it is stable and clear to me. > I think that it is ready for WG LC. > > Bin > > > 2017. 10. 24. =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 1:42, "Teas(Leeyoung =EB=8C=80=EC=8B=A0)= " g@huawei.com =EB=8C=80=EC=8B=A0)> =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: > > Hi, > > With -10, we have addressed all comments that we have received and > believe that the document is complete and ready for WG last call. The > companion drafts (i.e., ACTN requirements and Info Model) are already > completely aligned with the Framework Draft (This version). Obviously som= e > other documents will need to be updated to bring them in synch especially > with minor changes in the terminology, but we do not think that those > changes are in anyway gating the progress of this draft through WG LC and > RFC publication. > > We'd appreciate your comment on this version 10 which was published > last week. > > Thanks & Best regards, > Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leeyoung > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:37 PM > To: TEAS WG > Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > > Hi, > > This update was the result of offline discussions with the chairs. > The only change is Section 5.5 where VN recursion with network layers was > added per Chairs' request. > > Hope this is the last change (until the next one) :) > > Thanks & Best regards, > Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors). > > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:31 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: teas@ietf.org > Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and > Signaling WG of the IETF. > > Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of > Traffic Engineered Networks > Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > Young Lee > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > Pages : 37 > Date : 2017-10-18 > > Abstract: > Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. The= y > also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > networking. > > Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applie= d > to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > the network resources. > > This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn- > framework-10 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --001a113d0250c6f401055c4e8836 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree, it=E2=80=99s time for WG LC.

C= heers,
Andy

=
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:07 AM, =EC=9C=A4= =EB=B9=88=EC=98=81 <byyun@etri.re.kr> wrote:
Hi,

I read it.
It has been progressed a lot, so it is stable and clear to me.
I think that it is ready for WG LC.

Bin


2017. 10. 24. =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 1:42, "Teas(Leeyoung =EB=8C=80=EC=8B= =A0)" <teas-bounces@ietf.o= rg(leeyoung@huawei.com = =EB=8C=80=EC=8B=A0)> =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hi,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 With -10, we have addressed all comments that we have receive= d and believe that the document is complete and ready for WG last call. The= companion drafts (i.e., ACTN=C2=A0 requirements and Info Model)=C2=A0 are = already completely aligned with the Framework Draft (This version). Obvious= ly some other documents will need to be updated to bring them in synch espe= cially with minor changes in the terminology, but we do not think that thos= e changes are in anyway gating the progress of this draft through WG LC and= RFC publication.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 We'd appreciate your comment on this version 10 which was= published last week.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks & Best regards,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors)


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -----Original Message-----
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: Leeyoung
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:37 PM
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To: TEAS WG <teas@ietf.or= g>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-fra= mework-10.txt

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hi,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This update was the result of offline discussions with the ch= airs.=C2=A0 The only change is Section 5.5 where VN recursion with network = layers was added per Chairs' request.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hope this is the last change (until the next one) :)

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks & Best regards,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors).

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -----Original Message-----
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: Teas [mailto:t= eas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:31 PM
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To: i-d-announce@iet= f.org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cc: teas@ietf.org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framewo= rk-10.txt


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-D= rafts directories.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architec= ture and Signaling WG of the IETF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered = Networks
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: Daniele Ceccarelli
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Young Lee
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-teas-actn-framework-10.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 37
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2017-10-18

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of me= chanisms to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0facilitate the separation of the data plane and = control plane. They
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0also have a range of management and provisioning= protocols to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0configure and activate network resources.=C2=A0 = These mechanisms
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0represent key technologies for enabling flexible= and dynamic
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0networking.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Abstraction of network resources is a technique = that can be applied
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to a single network domain or across multiple do= mains to create a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0single virtualized network that is under the con= trol of a network
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0operator or the customer of the operator that ac= tually owns
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the network resources.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This document provides a framework for Abstracti= on and Control of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN).



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://datatracker.ie= tf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 There are also htmlized versions available at:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://tools.ietf.org/ht= ml/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://datatra= cker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 A diff from the previous version is available at:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.= org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the tim= e of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf= .org.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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Thanks, Pavan and Lou From nobody Tue Oct 24 19:06:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2D113942F; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:06:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p_F0Tf8SFShO; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io0-x234.google.com (mail-io0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77F05139438; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io0-x234.google.com with SMTP id 97so25974572iok.7; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yMVqV/cvTdPq8l9+AJMx4USxF90zeBsFfAaM1yS9XMo=; b=vDSOh6eoaizMPy7+rN1rsRtp9gk9YSJU0SteDMxqCxCvAN87a0uKeRlirA9532Sx0r 9i4F17POWRkn2fAiJ7sZOuUOhSyUAJCMIu8iaLtdTqPix8atAVKpyiFMzoXSjM8xsktf R1BMts7wgSFR4znOi8Dv832byc3tFYsT5TzLf7bMy9oCJV+zLh69561UvUImhR/vYm1D XnwfU8W+tTnbLEUb89oRiHZiYRG8aLXX38VHn7sb0HViq7L720LUnqjsJ7jt4Q7xie6S 69dCdSM/1qLsUWqzLwXXKlH5653dfJwWQ3HBdN8w6t95DuWSxIzbVkEBfZSn8zv91ngB lkRw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yMVqV/cvTdPq8l9+AJMx4USxF90zeBsFfAaM1yS9XMo=; b=D0RKY+LrJmdRrdK0Se5CLm/k37cdlytxDsmB6Iz7I3B7DqdRPoe3fJsvkULUoe7/xd 7mhEPFtgMeSfCPYmdO7vTIArsvH84uBj3QdLDnx4NzkzfBrTARjMOr//WtDq/eSsNEL+ zd7l0HIscdJPLXBNr42A66Bt1CQ94XQuQCiFKJg6sFlZHtfpt6NdLuUsXn21GZW4H+XY yXPGwJaWs1ak+dJR3kvWVViy7S4rjOa4XALHec3pIm8H1HgVhJFHEei3lKP+T9s2V4+U ozSrpvis+mYC+iOgi1qxer9Nr6ymjG67U7/Wbn9JOy2sxIu71HPgM3bxN6sBNYNiHzMJ ha9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUAWPLWm4VlRM3FawAe3EZcQoyFR1R0ZltiuRe4ySOjaIBJ1yD0 d8MGiiFLY/qstQjklO/aloVa/h+7PKWywmuHDEY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+TgPLiOHFjk2tJ4qULeWCnGTtGT8wk0UsNfLaMWNXMsYMLXTLwR78+IdebkZ0N82Uj3aLy49qdekTUM3VlhW2k= X-Received: by 10.107.30.199 with SMTP id e190mr21740213ioe.277.1508897183597; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:06:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Jeff Tantsura Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:06:12 +0000 Message-ID: To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "teas@ietf.org" Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11407e64a187be055c558033" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:06:26 -0000 --001a11407e64a187be055c558033 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes/support On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 17:52 Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends Nov 7th. > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --001a11407e64a187be055c558033 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support
On Tue, Oct 24, = 2017 at 17:52 Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
All,

This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 a TEAS working group document.<= br> Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Nov 7th.

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou

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--001a11407e64a187be055c558033-- From nobody Tue Oct 24 19:11:14 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C60139507; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:11:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fr6FxxXKQLPs; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67B1513A2B8; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DRG90987; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:10:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEMA402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.20.43) by lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.48) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 03:10:51 +0100 Received: from DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.157]) by DGGEMA402-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.3.20.43]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 10:10:45 +0800 From: "Yemin (Amy)" To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "teas@ietf.org" CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation Thread-Index: AQHTTSuLxDd2GDZMfEuBCm5+GueBvqLz0oIw Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:10:45 +0000 Message-ID: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FC759E61C@DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.169.30.234] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020203.59EFF2AC.00AC, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.1.157, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: c6173342d92e2cf35aa9869d38fc91cd Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:11:07 -0000 Yes/support. 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Thanks, Pavan and Lou _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Tue Oct 24 19:12:57 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9167139507; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:12:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sd_9wzJu6fSi; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1887713942F; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO LHREML713-CAH.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DRG91101; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:12:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEMA404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.20.45) by LHREML713-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 03:12:52 +0100 Received: from DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.157]) by DGGEMA404-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.3.20.45]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 10:12:47 +0800 From: "Yemin (Amy)" To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "teas@ietf.org" CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang Thread-Index: AQHTTBjAEO7Ks7aFVke636bboHq1hqLz1TGg Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:12:47 +0000 Message-ID: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FC759E630@DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.169.30.234] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020206.59EFF324.00A9, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.1.157, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 53fa406b022886d7a4cd1ae7783d3ce9 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:12:56 -0000 Yes/support. 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Tue, 24 Oct 2017 22:30:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FC759E630@DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FC759E630@DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com> From: Jeff Tantsura Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 05:30:05 +0000 Message-ID: To: "Yemin (Amy)" , Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "teas@ietf.org" Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114442febe77ab055c585979" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 05:30:19 -0000 --001a114442febe77ab055c585979 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes/support On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 19:12 Yemin (Amy) wrote: > Yes/support. > > Amy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:05 AM > To: teas@ietf.org > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang > > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to > see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends Nov 6th. > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --001a114442febe77ab055c585979 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support
On Tue, Oct 24, = 2017 at 19:12 Yemin (Amy) <amy.y= emin@huawei.com> wrote:
Yes/= support.

Amy

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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:05 AM
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Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang

All,

This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reservations wi= th the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'= d like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Nov 6th.

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou

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Ricard El 25/10/2017 a les 7:30, Jeff Tantsura ha escrit: > Yes/support > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 19:12 Yemin (Amy) > wrote: > > Yes/support. > > Amy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org > ] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:05 AM > To: teas@ietf.org > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > > Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang > > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do > not support". If indicating no, please state your reservations > with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide > comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG > document. > > The poll ends Nov 6th. > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas -- Dr. Ricard Vilalta Senior Researcher Optical Networks and Systems Department Communication Networks Division Centre Tecnològic de Telecomunicacions de Catalunya (CTTC/CERCA). --------------DE4A0A16030F065DA9C1B1A2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Yes/support.

Ricard


El 25/10/2017 a les 7:30, Jeff Tantsura ha escrit:
Yes/support
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 19:12 Yemin (Amy) <amy.yemin@huawei.com> wrote:
Yes/support.

Amy

-----Original Message-----
From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:05 AM
To: teas@ietf.org
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang

All,

This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Nov 6th.

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou

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Senior Researcher
Optical Networks and Systems Department
Communication Networks Division
Centre Tecnològic de Telecomunicacions de Catalunya (CTTC/CERCA).
--------------DE4A0A16030F065DA9C1B1A2-- From nobody Wed Oct 25 04:43:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C6B13ACA2 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:43:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.89 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.89 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0RPAaDbHtL3l for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cica-lavadora-l1mail1v.puc.rediris.es (ci-l1mail1v-out05a.puc.rediris.es [IPv6:2001:720:418:ca02::15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8095137832 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:43:19 -0700 (PDT) X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2B5AAD7d/BZjNA+WFRaGwEBAQMBAQEJAQEBhENuJ4N6ih+?= =?us-ascii?q?PC4F6iEuNbxCBdwoKGAuFGAKEaz8YAQIBAQEBAQEBEwEBASZXhR0BAQEBAwEBI?= =?us-ascii?q?Q8BBTYXBAsRBAEBAwIjAwICIQYfCQgTBgIBAYoEAxkBC6kMgieHPw2DRAEBAQc?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAR4FgQ+CH4IHgVCBaSmDAYJegWsJARIBa4JIgmEBBKE3PIIvjU+EeYIVh?= =?us-ascii?q?XuDXYc5jQ2BDYdngTkfN4EEWDQhgQOCZIJsgXU+NolngjUBAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.43,431,1503352800"; d="scan'208";a="102541612" Received: from leo.cttc.es ([84.88.62.208]) by smtpout.puc.rediris.es with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 25 Oct 2017 13:41:49 +0200 Received: from [10.1.16.59] (pcrvilalta.cttc.es [10.1.16.59]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leo.cttc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 148CB1FF19 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:41:49 +0200 (CEST) To: teas@ietf.org References: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B157CF593@lhreml504-mbs> From: Ricard Vilalta Message-ID: <026c8d89-dc6e-e687-c4c9-ce5c7d401876@cttc.es> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:41:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B157CF593@lhreml504-mbs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 11:43:22 -0000 Yes/support (as co-author). Thanks, Ricard El 25/10/2017 a les 10:55, Italo Busi ha escrit: > Hi Pavan, > > yes/support (as co-author) > > Thanks, Italo > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram [mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com] > Sent: mercoledì 25 ottobre 2017 02:52 > To: teas@ietf.org > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation > > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends Nov 7th. > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas -- Dr. Ricard Vilalta Senior Researcher Optical Networks and Systems Department Communication Networks Division Centre Tecnològic de Telecomunicacions de Catalunya (CTTC/CERCA). From nobody Wed Oct 25 04:46:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6755213ACA2 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:46:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.89 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.89 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id um-WmLQfxsZK for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from telmad-lavadora-l1mail2.puc.rediris.es (te-l1mail2-out05a.puc.rediris.es [IPv6:2001:720:418:ca03::87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2E30137832 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:46:19 -0700 (PDT) X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2BFAABEePBZjNA+WFRaGQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBBwEBAQEBhEN?= =?us-ascii?q?uJ4N6ih+PC4F6ljoQgXoHChgLhRgChGs/GAECAQEBAQEBARMBAQEmV4UdAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QMBASEPAQU2FwQLEQEDAQEDAiMDAgInHwMGCBMGAgEBiiABC6kNgieLEAEBCAE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEkgQ+CH4IHgVCBaSmDAYMygReDUIJhBaFzgi+FNo0SghVdhR6DXSSHFYolg?= =?us-ascii?q?3WHZ4E5HzeBXDQhWSqCZAmCY4F1PjaMHAEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.43,431,1503352800"; d="scan'208";a="146158417" Received: from leo.cttc.es ([84.88.62.208]) by smtpout.puc.rediris.es with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 25 Oct 2017 13:46:17 +0200 Received: from [10.1.16.59] (pcrvilalta.cttc.es [10.1.16.59]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leo.cttc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3058C1FE8E for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:46:17 +0200 (CEST) To: teas@ietf.org References: <150836224298.12498.8605210594753187489@ietfa.amsl.com> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF357DF@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> <07ca01d34c4f$9a0bfa80$ce23ef80$@olddog.co.uk> From: Ricard Vilalta Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:46:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <07ca01d34c4f$9a0bfa80$ce23ef80$@olddog.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 11:46:22 -0000 Hi all, I agree with Adrian's comment. I have read the latest changes and I think that the document is ready for WC LC. Thanks, Ricard El 24/10/2017 a les 0:38, Adrian Farrel ha escrit: > All, > > I'm sorry that I'm the cause of a lot of the changes in the last couple of > revisions. The authors have been most accommodating of my requests and > suggestions for changes and I think the resulting document is a whole lot > clearer. I have no further issues with this document. > > Adrian > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leeyoung >> Sent: 23 October 2017 17:42 >> To: TEAS WG >> Cc: TEAS WG Chairs >> Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >> >> Hi, >> >> With -10, we have addressed all comments that we have received and believe >> that the document is complete and ready for WG last call. The companion drafts >> (i.e., ACTN requirements and Info Model) are already completely aligned with >> the Framework Draft (This version). Obviously some other documents will need >> to be updated to bring them in synch especially with minor changes in the >> terminology, but we do not think that those changes are in anyway gating the >> progress of this draft through WG LC and RFC publication. >> >> We'd appreciate your comment on this version 10 which was published last week. >> >> Thanks & Best regards, >> Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Leeyoung >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:37 PM >> To: TEAS WG >> Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >> >> Hi, >> >> This update was the result of offline discussions with the chairs. The only > change >> is Section 5.5 where VN recursion with network layers was added per Chairs' >> request. >> >> Hope this is the last change (until the next one) :) >> >> Thanks & Best regards, >> Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors). >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > internet-drafts@ietf.org >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:31 PM >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >> Cc: teas@ietf.org >> Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >> >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and > Signaling WG >> of the IETF. >> >> Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic > Engineered >> Networks >> Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli >> Young Lee >> Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >> Pages : 37 >> Date : 2017-10-18 >> >> Abstract: >> Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to >> facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They >> also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to >> configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms >> represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic >> networking. >> >> Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied >> to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a >> single virtualized network that is under the control of a network >> operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns >> the network resources. >> >> This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of >> Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). >> >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas -- Dr. Ricard Vilalta Senior Researcher Optical Networks and Systems Department Communication Networks Division Centre Tecnològic de Telecomunicacions de Catalunya (CTTC/CERCA). 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nokia.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 3621e3e2-0837-4b27-d43c-08d51ba06c5c X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 25 Oct 2017 12:03:36.8439 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM5PR0701MB2546 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:03:46 -0000 Since the terminology for "PNC" got changed recently, wouldn't it make sens= e to review the term "CNC" as well? Due to topology abstraction, the entity that implements the CNC functionali= ty may not have much "control" over the network. And, as an example, the CN= C functionality could also be implemented as part of a portal. In such case= s the term "controller" may perhaps not be a widely used in industry.=20 For what it is worth, an alternative expansion would be "Customer Network C= ommissioning". Other terms may exist as well. Just as a thought - this would be editorial only Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leeyoung > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:42 PM > To: TEAS WG > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >=20 > Hi, >=20 > With -10, we have addressed all comments that we have received and > believe that the document is complete and ready for WG last call. The > companion drafts (i.e., ACTN requirements and Info Model) are already > completely aligned with the Framework Draft (This version). Obviously som= e > other documents will need to be updated to bring them in synch especially > with minor changes in the terminology, but we do not think that those > changes are in anyway gating the progress of this draft through WG LC and > RFC publication. >=20 > We'd appreciate your comment on this version 10 which was published last > week. >=20 > Thanks & Best regards, > Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Leeyoung > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:37 PM > To: TEAS WG > Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >=20 > Hi, >=20 > This update was the result of offline discussions with the chairs. The o= nly > change is Section 5.5 where VN recursion with network layers was added pe= r > Chairs' request. >=20 > Hope this is the last change (until the next one) :) >=20 > Thanks & Best regards, > Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors). >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:31 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: teas@ietf.org > Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Sig= naling > WG of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffi= c Engineered > Networks > Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > Young Lee > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > Pages : 37 > Date : 2017-10-18 >=20 > Abstract: > Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They > also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > networking. >=20 > Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied > to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > the network resources. >=20 > This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Wed Oct 25 05:57:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0B213B2B2 for ; 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Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:50000 helo=fs2.dc.labn.net) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e7LEx-0039xT-7g; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:56:59 -0600 To: "Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)" , Leeyoung , TEAS WG Cc: TEAS WG Chairs References: <150836224298.12498.8605210594753187489@ietfa.amsl.com> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF357DF@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <65e10954-4175-e329-9d56-656c8b606195@labn.net> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:56:58 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1e7LEx-0039xT-7g X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net (fs2.dc.labn.net) [100.15.86.101]:50000 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 12 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:57:06 -0000 Michael, What about adding some text (that you propose ;-) to section 3.2 to clarify this point and leaving the CNC name as is. Perhaps something like: The capability of a CNC beyond its CMI role is outside the scope of ACTN and may be implemented in different ways. For example, the CNC may in fact be a controller in the customer's domain , or the CNC functionality could also be implemented as part of a provisioning portal. Lou On 10/25/2017 08:03 AM, Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) wrote: > Since the terminology for "PNC" got changed recently, wouldn't it make sense to review the term "CNC" as well? > > Due to topology abstraction, the entity that implements the CNC functionality may not have much "control" over the network. And, as an example, the CNC functionality could also be implemented as part of a portal. In such cases the term "controller" may perhaps not be a widely used in industry. > > For what it is worth, an alternative expansion would be "Customer Network Commissioning". Other terms may exist as well. > > Just as a thought - this would be editorial only > > Michael > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leeyoung >> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:42 PM >> To: TEAS WG >> Cc: TEAS WG Chairs >> Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >> >> Hi, >> >> With -10, we have addressed all comments that we have received and >> believe that the document is complete and ready for WG last call. The >> companion drafts (i.e., ACTN requirements and Info Model) are already >> completely aligned with the Framework Draft (This version). Obviously some >> other documents will need to be updated to bring them in synch especially >> with minor changes in the terminology, but we do not think that those >> changes are in anyway gating the progress of this draft through WG LC and >> RFC publication. >> >> We'd appreciate your comment on this version 10 which was published last >> week. >> >> Thanks & Best regards, >> Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Leeyoung >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:37 PM >> To: TEAS WG >> Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >> >> Hi, >> >> This update was the result of offline discussions with the chairs. The only >> change is Section 5.5 where VN recursion with network layers was added per >> Chairs' request. >> >> Hope this is the last change (until the next one) :) >> >> Thanks & Best regards, >> Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors). >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- >> drafts@ietf.org >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:31 PM >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >> Cc: teas@ietf.org >> Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >> >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling >> WG of the IETF. >> >> Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered >> Networks >> Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli >> Young Lee >> Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >> Pages : 37 >> Date : 2017-10-18 >> >> Abstract: >> Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to >> facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They >> also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to >> configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms >> represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic >> networking. >> >> Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied >> to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a >> single virtualized network that is under the control of a network >> operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns >> the network resources. >> >> This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of >> Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). >> >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Wed Oct 25 06:16:45 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AED1384F5; 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:AM5PR0701MB2547; H:AM5PR0701MB2547.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: nokia.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nokia.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: a362acc2-4c9d-436e-0bb9-08d51baaa916 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 25 Oct 2017 13:16:53.7352 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM5PR0701MB2547 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:16:59 -0000 Your proposed wording would help. BTW, according to section 5.5, the "CNC" may also be embedded inside a PNC.= This "controller-in-controller" embedding could perhaps also be mentioned = earlier in the document, e.g., as part of your proposed text. It could be s= omething like: "For example, the CNC may in fact be a controller or part of= a controller in the customer's domain". Anyway, I was just wondering if terminology other than the generic "control= ler" could perhaps better distinguish the different functionality. I won't = insist on any change. Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:57 PM > To: Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) ; > Leeyoung ; TEAS WG > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >=20 > Michael, >=20 > What about adding some text (that you propose ;-) to section 3.2 to clari= fy > this point and leaving the CNC name as is. Perhaps something like: >=20 > The capability of a CNC beyond its CMI role is outside the scope of > ACTN and may be implemented in different ways. For example, the CNC > may in fact be a controller in the customer's domain , or the CNC > functionality could also be implemented as part of a provisioning > portal. >=20 > Lou >=20 >=20 > On 10/25/2017 08:03 AM, Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) wrote: > > Since the terminology for "PNC" got changed recently, wouldn't it make > sense to review the term "CNC" as well? > > > > Due to topology abstraction, the entity that implements the CNC > functionality may not have much "control" over the network. And, as an > example, the CNC functionality could also be implemented as part of a por= tal. > In such cases the term "controller" may perhaps not be a widely used in > industry. > > > > For what it is worth, an alternative expansion would be "Customer > Network Commissioning". Other terms may exist as well. > > > > Just as a thought - this would be editorial only > > > > Michael > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leeyoung > >> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:42 PM > >> To: TEAS WG > >> Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > >> Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> With -10, we have addressed all comments that we have received and > >> believe that the document is complete and ready for WG last call. The > >> companion drafts (i.e., ACTN requirements and Info Model) are > >> already completely aligned with the Framework Draft (This version). > >> Obviously some other documents will need to be updated to bring them > >> in synch especially with minor changes in the terminology, but we do > >> not think that those changes are in anyway gating the progress of > >> this draft through WG LC and RFC publication. > >> > >> We'd appreciate your comment on this version 10 which was published > >> last week. > >> > >> Thanks & Best regards, > >> Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Leeyoung > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:37 PM > >> To: TEAS WG > >> Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> This update was the result of offline discussions with the chairs. > >> The only change is Section 5.5 where VN recursion with network layers > >> was added per Chairs' request. > >> > >> Hope this is the last change (until the next one) :) > >> > >> Thanks & Best regards, > >> Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors). > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > >> drafts@ietf.org > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:31 PM > >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> Cc: teas@ietf.org > >> Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> > >> > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and > >> Signaling WG of the IETF. > >> > >> Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Tra= ffic > Engineered > >> Networks > >> Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > >> Young Lee > >> Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> Pages : 37 > >> Date : 2017-10-18 > >> > >> Abstract: > >> Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > >> facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They > >> also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > >> configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > >> represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > >> networking. > >> > >> Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied > >> to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > >> single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > >> operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > >> the network resources. > >> > >> This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > >> Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > >> > >> > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > >> > >> There are also htmlized versions available at: > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework- > >> 10 > >> > >> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > >> > >> > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > >> > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Wed Oct 25 06:31:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14DE1375C9; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:31:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.219 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.219 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VFRCx2OTU4dA; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA9C613ACA2; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DYK75996; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:26:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:26:30 +0100 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.102]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.104]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:26:20 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: "Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)" , "Lou Berger" , TEAS WG CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt Thread-Index: AQHTSFhlmbB+vaIch0ak7NmpFYNXi6LqIOkggAeJIaCAAtRLAIAAh84AgAAFkYD//4zPoA== Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:26:20 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF37A40@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <150836224298.12498.8605210594753187489@ietfa.amsl.com> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF357DF@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> <65e10954-4175-e329-9d56-656c8b606195@labn.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A010206.59F09246.0052, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.1.102, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 49e11a50c5585fed797e2284f9f5ba46 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:31:58 -0000 Hi Michael and Lou, I agree that the suggested description of CNC would help. I would leave th= e CNC name as is with the reason Michael quoted from Section 5.5.=20 Thanks, Young -----Original Message----- From: Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) [mailto:michael.scharf@nokia.c= om]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:17 AM To: Lou Berger ; Leeyoung ; TEAS WG = Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt Your proposed wording would help. BTW, according to section 5.5, the "CNC" may also be embedded inside a PNC.= This "controller-in-controller" embedding could perhaps also be mentioned = earlier in the document, e.g., as part of your proposed text. It could be s= omething like: "For example, the CNC may in fact be a controller or part of= a controller in the customer's domain". Anyway, I was just wondering if terminology other than the generic "control= ler" could perhaps better distinguish the different functionality. I won't = insist on any change. Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:57 PM > To: Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) ;=20 > Leeyoung ; TEAS WG > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >=20 > Michael, >=20 > What about adding some text (that you propose ;-) to section 3.2 to=20 > clarify this point and leaving the CNC name as is. Perhaps something lik= e: >=20 > The capability of a CNC beyond its CMI role is outside the scope of > ACTN and may be implemented in different ways. For example, the CNC > may in fact be a controller in the customer's domain , or the CNC > functionality could also be implemented as part of a provisioning > portal. >=20 > Lou >=20 >=20 > On 10/25/2017 08:03 AM, Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) wrote: > > Since the terminology for "PNC" got changed recently, wouldn't it=20 > > make > sense to review the term "CNC" as well? > > > > Due to topology abstraction, the entity that implements the CNC > functionality may not have much "control" over the network. And, as an=20 > example, the CNC functionality could also be implemented as part of a por= tal. > In such cases the term "controller" may perhaps not be a widely used=20 > in industry. > > > > For what it is worth, an alternative expansion would be "Customer > Network Commissioning". Other terms may exist as well. > > > > Just as a thought - this would be editorial only > > > > Michael > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leeyoung > >> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:42 PM > >> To: TEAS WG > >> Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > >> Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action:=20 > >> draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> With -10, we have addressed all comments that we have received and=20 > >> believe that the document is complete and ready for WG last call.=20 > >> The companion drafts (i.e., ACTN requirements and Info Model) are=20 > >> already completely aligned with the Framework Draft (This version). > >> Obviously some other documents will need to be updated to bring=20 > >> them in synch especially with minor changes in the terminology, but=20 > >> we do not think that those changes are in anyway gating the=20 > >> progress of this draft through WG LC and RFC publication. > >> > >> We'd appreciate your comment on this version 10 which was published=20 > >> last week. > >> > >> Thanks & Best regards, > >> Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Leeyoung > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:37 PM > >> To: TEAS WG > >> Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action:=20 > >> draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> This update was the result of offline discussions with the chairs. > >> The only change is Section 5.5 where VN recursion with network=20 > >> layers was added per Chairs' request. > >> > >> Hope this is the last change (until the next one) :) > >> > >> Thanks & Best regards, > >> Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors). > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-=20 > >> drafts@ietf.org > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:31 PM > >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> Cc: teas@ietf.org > >> Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> > >> > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture=20 > >> and Signaling WG of the IETF. > >> > >> Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Tra= ffic > Engineered > >> Networks > >> Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > >> Young Lee > >> Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> Pages : 37 > >> Date : 2017-10-18 > >> > >> Abstract: > >> Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > >> facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They > >> also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > >> configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > >> represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > >> networking. > >> > >> Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied > >> to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > >> single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > >> operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > >> the network resources. > >> > >> This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > >> Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > >> > >> > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > >> > >> There are also htmlized versions available at: > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framewor > >> k- > >> 10 > >> > >> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > >> > >> > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 > >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > >> > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Wed Oct 25 06:40:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572041386DE; 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For example, the CNC > may in fact be a controller in the customer's domain , or the CNC > functionality could also be implemented as part of a provisioning > portal. For example, the CNC may in fact be a controller or part of a= controller in the customer's domain. Let us know if this is good to go.=20 Thanks. Young -----Original Message----- From: Leeyoung=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:26 AM To: 'Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)' ; Lo= u Berger ; TEAS WG Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt Hi Michael and Lou, I agree that the suggested description of CNC would help. I would leave th= e CNC name as is with the reason Michael quoted from Section 5.5.=20 Thanks, Young -----Original Message----- From: Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) [mailto:michael.scharf@nokia.c= om] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:17 AM To: Lou Berger ; Leeyoung ; TEAS WG = Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt Your proposed wording would help. BTW, according to section 5.5, the "CNC" may also be embedded inside a PNC.= This "controller-in-controller" embedding could perhaps also be mentioned = earlier in the document, e.g., as part of your proposed text. It could be s= omething like: "For example, the CNC may in fact be a controller or part of= a controller in the customer's domain". Anyway, I was just wondering if terminology other than the generic "control= ler" could perhaps better distinguish the different functionality. I won't = insist on any change. Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:57 PM > To: Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) ;=20 > Leeyoung ; TEAS WG > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt >=20 > Michael, >=20 > What about adding some text (that you propose ;-) to section 3.2 to=20 > clarify this point and leaving the CNC name as is. Perhaps something lik= e: >=20 > The capability of a CNC beyond its CMI role is outside the scope of > ACTN and may be implemented in different ways. For example, the CNC > may in fact be a controller in the customer's domain , or the CNC > functionality could also be implemented as part of a provisioning > portal. >=20 > Lou >=20 >=20 > On 10/25/2017 08:03 AM, Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) wrote: > > Since the terminology for "PNC" got changed recently, wouldn't it=20 > > make > sense to review the term "CNC" as well? > > > > Due to topology abstraction, the entity that implements the CNC > functionality may not have much "control" over the network. And, as an=20 > example, the CNC functionality could also be implemented as part of a por= tal. > In such cases the term "controller" may perhaps not be a widely used=20 > in industry. > > > > For what it is worth, an alternative expansion would be "Customer > Network Commissioning". Other terms may exist as well. > > > > Just as a thought - this would be editorial only > > > > Michael > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leeyoung > >> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:42 PM > >> To: TEAS WG > >> Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > >> Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action:=20 > >> draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> With -10, we have addressed all comments that we have received and=20 > >> believe that the document is complete and ready for WG last call. > >> The companion drafts (i.e., ACTN requirements and Info Model) are=20 > >> already completely aligned with the Framework Draft (This version). > >> Obviously some other documents will need to be updated to bring=20 > >> them in synch especially with minor changes in the terminology, but=20 > >> we do not think that those changes are in anyway gating the=20 > >> progress of this draft through WG LC and RFC publication. > >> > >> We'd appreciate your comment on this version 10 which was published=20 > >> last week. > >> > >> Thanks & Best regards, > >> Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors) > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Leeyoung > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:37 PM > >> To: TEAS WG > >> Subject: RE: [Teas] I-D Action:=20 > >> draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> This update was the result of offline discussions with the chairs. > >> The only change is Section 5.5 where VN recursion with network=20 > >> layers was added per Chairs' request. > >> > >> Hope this is the last change (until the next one) :) > >> > >> Thanks & Best regards, > >> Young (on behalf of co-authors and contributors). > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-=20 > >> drafts@ietf.org > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:31 PM > >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> Cc: teas@ietf.org > >> Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> > >> > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture=20 > >> and Signaling WG of the IETF. > >> > >> Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Tra= ffic > Engineered > >> Networks > >> Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > >> Young Lee > >> Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10.txt > >> Pages : 37 > >> Date : 2017-10-18 > >> > >> Abstract: > >> Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > >> facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They > >> also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > >> configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > >> represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > >> networking. > >> > >> Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied > >> to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > >> single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > >> operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > >> the network resources. > >> > >> This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > >> Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > >> > >> > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > >> > >> There are also htmlized versions available at: > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framewor > >> k- > >> 10 > >> > >> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 > >> > >> > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 > >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > >> > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Teas mailing list > >> Teas@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Wed Oct 25 09:28:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E4813F41E; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:28:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.946 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.946 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P2ZXvipe90Jk; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (50-245-122-97-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.245.122.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1015138AED; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:28:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=70.194.3.120; From: "Susan Hares" To: "'Vishnu Pavan Beeram'" , Cc: "'TEAS WG Chairs'" References: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FC759E630@DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:28:05 -0400 Message-ID: <02e101d34dae$3c86ecc0$b594c640$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02E2_01D34D8C.B576AC50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQEhpzEG0Ud1E+92CvTxo78XjCirLQK9PHgCAOEm/tmkOxrKsA== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:28:14 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02E2_01D34D8C.B576AC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support for this draft. This technology is useful in networks. This = draft is a good start for the work.=20 =20 Sue Hares=20 =20 From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:30 AM To: Yemin (Amy); Vishnu Pavan Beeram; teas@ietf.org Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang =20 Yes/support On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 19:12 Yemin (Amy) wrote: Yes/support. Amy -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan = Beeram Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:05 AM To: teas@ietf.org Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang All, This is start of a two week poll on making draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 a TEAS working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not = support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the = document. 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Support for this draft.=C2=A0 This technology is useful in = networks.=C2=A0 This draft is a good start for the work. =

 

Sue Hares

 

From:= = Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jeff = Tantsura
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:30 = AM
To: Yemin (Amy); Vishnu Pavan Beeram; = teas@ietf.org
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs
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Yes/support

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 19:12 Yemin (Amy) <amy.yemin@huawei.com> = wrote:

Yes/support.

Amy

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All,

This is = start of a two week poll on making
draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 a = TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating = "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating = no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please = also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the = document is a WG document.

The poll ends Nov = 6th.

Thanks,
Pavan and = Lou

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in ietf-te-types > Because the new ietf-te-types.yang contains a non-backward compatible change (lsp-prot-type to lsp-protection-type), we cannot submit the te-topology draft before ietf-te-types.yang. > Xufeng to resolve this with Tarek. 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Attendees: Igor, Xufeng, Carlo, Dieter, Young, Italo= , Sergio

 

- Discussed technology specific augmentation guidanc= e to ietf-te-topology model

  > Reviewed the new section in draft-ietf-t= eas-yang-te-topo, on the

    guidance for writing technol= ogy specific TE topology augmentations.

  > Attendees had no issues, from the WDM, O= TN, and packet perspectives.

 

- Discussion one collaboration issue from technology= specific augmentations.

  > Topology name is added in many augmentat= ions: OTN, L2, ETH.

    o Agreed the cleanup to add the n= ame leaf to te-topology and

      remove it from all au= gmentations.

  > Node name is added in many augmentations= : OTN, L2, ETH.

    o Agreed the cleanup to change th= e name leaf to string in

      te-topology and remov= ed it from all augmentations.

 

- Discussed updates in ietf-te-types

  > Because the new ietf-te-types.yang conta= ins a non-backward

    compatible change (lsp-prot-type = to lsp-protection-type), we cannot

    submit the te-topology draft befo= re ietf-te-types.yang.

  > Xufeng to resolve this with Tarek.<= o:p>

 

Thanks,

- Xufeng

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Together with TE Topo and TE tun= nel this draft is one of the building blocks for the ACTN MPI. This functio= nality is mostly needed when a hierarchical SDN controller or hierarchical = PCE wants to perform an end to end path computation using also domains expo= rting a black topology. BR Daniele =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beera= m > Sent: mercoled=EC 25 ottobre 2017 02:52 > To: teas@ietf.org > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computati= on >=20 > All, >=20 > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 a TEAS working group document= . > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not supp= ort". If > indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, = please > also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the > document is a WG document. >=20 > The poll ends Nov 7th. >=20 > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Fri Oct 27 07:51:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCCD13F562; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 07:51:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l30W4Pkozrum; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 07:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-7.cisco.com (alln-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.142.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B0FE13F516; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 07:50:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1545; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1509115856; x=1510325456; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=9aHaQlO1JUhhjtQAYvMhqPR6K5S9HcIPlOh+GAS5tvY=; b=chdPN4AvyDFlRlZoWAXHkma9JTFAc7hpYlgdHM+hbQM04jVZmXn3c0aC 8xw0FFc1v8v4g6rGLBE9IU1nxEsGUc8NvuEtDD8jxxVX3YNcbOkb4fk4k EluzAc5yXE4mYK3TT1O4+wikd5TeWOwEqg5fthFylWxCNWpZUMk4nMYaD 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0CmAQBLR/NZ/4cNJK1cGQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBBwEBAQEBg1+BUi6dJIF6mFMKhTsChEtCFQECAQEBAQEBAWsohR0BAQEBAgE?= =?us-ascii?q?6PwULAgEINhAyJQEBBA4NihMIq0mKawEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBHoMug?= =?us-ascii?q?geBUIFpgyqKewWiAwKUcYIehgCLGIosizcCERkBgTgBNSKBaHoVSYJlhF6KGAS?= =?us-ascii?q?BLwGBEAEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.44,304,1505779200"; d="scan'208";a="22481904" Received: from alln-core-2.cisco.com ([173.36.13.135]) by alln-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 27 Oct 2017 14:50:55 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-005.cisco.com (xch-aln-005.cisco.com [173.36.7.15]) by alln-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v9REotwU001210 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:50:55 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-ALN-005.cisco.com (173.36.7.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:50:54 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1320.000; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:50:54 -0500 From: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" To: "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" CC: "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" Thread-Topic: Agenda requests for Singapore Thread-Index: AdNJ1ZXbUISybKQMSCyBDYMi8VpXIAFXVPHA Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:50:54 +0000 Message-ID: <240d683394e94c37a502577344c419fb@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> References: <855f488557a7483489922a55fe3a00b6@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <855f488557a7483489922a55fe3a00b6@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.212.163] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Agenda requests for Singapore X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:51:01 -0000 A reminder... please send your slot requests. We have a very short meeting = at the moment :) Cheers Matt > All, >=20 > The agenda for Singapore is out. It's currently still showing as > preliminary, but it's due for official publication today so I don't expec= t > it to change. >=20 > TEAS is meeting from 9:30 - 12 on Tuesday, November 14 in Canning. >=20 > If you have a draft you'd like to present, please send a request to me an= d > the Chairs by the end of next Friday (October 27th) and tell us how long > you need. If a draft isn't being presented, please be prepared to send an > update on it to the list. >=20 > We'll be asking for slides and updates to be sent by Friday November 14th > so that we can get them all uploaded. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Matt, Lou and Pavan >=20 > Important dates: > 2017-10-30 (Monday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all drafts, > including -00) by UTC 23:59, upload using IETF ID Submission Tool. > 2017-10-30 (Monday): Draft Working Group agendas due by UTC 23:59, upload > using IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool. > 2017-11-03 (Friday): Early Bird registration and payment cut-off at UTC > 23:59. > 2017-11-06 (Monday): Revised Working Group agendas due by UTC 23:59, > upload using IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool. > 2017-11-06 (Monday): Registration cancellation cut-off at UTC 23:59. > 2017-11-10 (Friday): Final Pre-Registration and Pre-Payment cut-off at > 17:00 local meeting time. > 2017-11-12 - 2017-11-17: IETF 100 in Singapore From nobody Fri Oct 27 08:46:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA70D13F5AC; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:46:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vXInDV2kWWg8; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8004A13F595; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DYN81447; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:46:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.38) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 16:46:48 +0100 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.102]) by SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.145]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:46:37 -0700 From: Igor Bryskin To: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" , "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" CC: "teas-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Agenda requests for Singapore Thread-Index: AdNJ1ZXbUISybKQMSCyBDYMi8VpXIAFXVPHAAAGzlLA= Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:46:37 +0000 Message-ID: <0C72C38E7EBC34499E8A9E7DD00786391C1835BC@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <855f488557a7483489922a55fe3a00b6@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> <240d683394e94c37a502577344c419fb@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <240d683394e94c37a502577344c419fb@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.152.19] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020202.59F354EA.0014, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.1.102, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: fd2f575f51ebf021ffe83a501ee56495 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Agenda requests for Singapore X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:46:54 -0000 Hi Matt, We need 10 min slots for: 1) draft-bryskin-teas-use-cases-sf-aware-topo-model-01 2) draft-bryskin-teas-sf-aware-topo-model-00 3) draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-modeling-01 Thanks, Igor -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hartley (mhartl= ey) Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 10:51 AM To: TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org) Cc: Matt Hartley (mhartley); teas-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Teas] Agenda requests for Singapore A reminder... please send your slot requests. We have a very short meeting = at the moment :) Cheers Matt > All, >=20 > The agenda for Singapore is out. It's currently still showing as > preliminary, but it's due for official publication today so I don't expec= t > it to change. >=20 > TEAS is meeting from 9:30 - 12 on Tuesday, November 14 in Canning. >=20 > If you have a draft you'd like to present, please send a request to me an= d > the Chairs by the end of next Friday (October 27th) and tell us how long > you need. If a draft isn't being presented, please be prepared to send an > update on it to the list. >=20 > We'll be asking for slides and updates to be sent by Friday November 14th > so that we can get them all uploaded. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Matt, Lou and Pavan >=20 > Important dates: > 2017-10-30 (Monday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all drafts, > including -00) by UTC 23:59, upload using IETF ID Submission Tool. > 2017-10-30 (Monday): Draft Working Group agendas due by UTC 23:59, upload > using IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool. > 2017-11-03 (Friday): Early Bird registration and payment cut-off at UTC > 23:59. > 2017-11-06 (Monday): Revised Working Group agendas due by UTC 23:59, > upload using IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool. > 2017-11-06 (Monday): Registration cancellation cut-off at UTC 23:59. > 2017-11-10 (Friday): Final Pre-Registration and Pre-Payment cut-off at > 17:00 local meeting time. > 2017-11-12 - 2017-11-17: IETF 100 in Singapore 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:28:32 -0000 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, TEAS WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. From nobody Fri Oct 27 14:33:30 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB5F13F5F1; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:33:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.65 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, INVALID_MSGID=0.568, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HqxXX35THFTc; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAEBD13F5DA; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO LHREML713-CAH.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DRK94350; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:33:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.39) by LHREML713-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 22:33:10 +0100 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.102]) by SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.27]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:32:56 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , Daniele Ceccarelli , Adrian Farrel , Italo Busi , Khuzema Pithewan , "Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE)" , Luyuan Fang , "diego@tid.es" , "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT)" , "d.king@lancaster.ac.uk" , Dhruv Dhody , Gert Grammel CC: "teas@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 Thread-Index: AQHTT2qPrzyJgq2bo0WhV02vIBUhRaL4N3jc Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:32:55 +0000 Message-ID: 956E6D55-5BF8-4190-AA0F-C6CEC1645507 References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_956E6D555BF84190AA0FC6CEC1645507_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020204.59F3A617.00CA, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.1.102, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 12fa52fc3b559e6caacb64543c81b8e8 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:33:25 -0000 --_000_956E6D555BF84190AA0FC6CEC1645507_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Thanks. Young From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram To:Daniele Ceccarelli,Leeyoung,Adrian Farrel,Italo Busi,Khuzema Pithewan,Sc= harf, Michael (Nokia - DE),Luyuan Fang,diego@tid.es,Belotti, Sergio (Nokia = - IT),d.king@lancaster.ac.uk,Dhruv Dhody,Gert Grammel, Cc:teas@ietf.org,TEAS WG Chairs, Date:2017-10-27 16:28:41 Subject:Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. 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Hi,

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Thanks.
Young
From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram
To:Daniele Ceccarelli,Leeyoung,A= drian Farrel,Italo Busi,Khuzema Pithewan,Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE),Luyua= n Fang,diego@tid.es,Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT),d.king@lancaster.ac.uk,Dhr= uv Dhody,Gert Grammel,
Cc:teas@ietf.org,TEAS WG Chairs,=
Date:2017-10-27 16:28:41
Subject:Regarding IPR on draft-i= etf-teas-actn-framework-10

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Last Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S
TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty<= /a>.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

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Thanks. Young From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram To:Leeyoung,Dhruv Dhody,Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT),Khuzema Pithewan,Danie= le Ceccarelli,ta-miyasaka@kddi.com,jongyoon.shin@sk.com,kwangkoog.lee@kt.co= m,xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn,toshiaki.suzuki.cs@hitachi.com,Zhenghaomian, Cc:teas@ietf.org,TEAS WG Chairs, Date:2017-10-27 16:33:24 Subject:Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? 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Hi,

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Thanks.
Young
From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram
To:Leeyoung,Dhruv Dhody,Belotti,= Sergio (Nokia - IT),Khuzema Pithewan,Daniele Ceccarelli,ta-miyasaka@kddi.c= om,jongyoon.shin@sk.com,kwangkoog.lee@kt.com,xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn,tosh= iaki.suzuki.cs@hitachi.com,Zhenghaomian,
Cc:teas@ietf.org,TEAS WG Chairs,=
Date:2017-10-27 16:33:24
Subject:Regarding IPR on draft-i= etf-teas-actn-requirements-06

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Last Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S
TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty<= /a>.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
response.
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Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:57:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150914143078.22164.14629093047078010332@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:57:10 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:57:11 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Abstraction and Control of TE Networks Authors : Young Lee Dhruv Dhody Sergio Belotti Khuzema Pithewan Daniele Ceccarelli Takuya Miyasaka Jong Yoon Shin Kwang-koog Lee Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2017-10-27 Abstract: This document provides a set of requirements for abstraction and control of Traffic Engineering networks to facilitate virtual network operation via the creation of a single virtualized network or a seamless service. This supports operators in viewing and controlling different domains (at any dimension: applied technology, administrative zones, or vendor-specific technology islands) as a single virtualized network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Oct 27 15:14:08 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADC213A317; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:14:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150914244102.2759.11006411039725745597@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:14:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 22:14:01 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli Young Lee Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2017-10-27 Abstract: Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic networking. Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a single virtualized network that is under the control of a network operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns the network resources. This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Oct 27 15:18:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC8213F5F7; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:18:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id udHGbNe90t_d; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7759013F5F5; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v9RMHnvl023795; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 23:17:49 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (105.76.115.87.dyn.plus.net [87.115.76.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v9RMHlYQ023782 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Oct 2017 23:17:48 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Vishnu Pavan Beeram'" , "'Daniele Ceccarelli'" , "'Leeyoung'" , "'Italo Busi'" , "'Khuzema Pithewan'" , "'Scharf, Michael \(Nokia - DE\)'" , "'Luyuan Fang'" , , "'Belotti, Sergio \(Nokia - IT\)'" , , "'Dhruv Dhody'" , "'Gert Grammel'" Cc: , "'TEAS WG Chairs'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 23:17:41 +0100 Message-ID: <008801d34f71$6917c2e0$3b4748a0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJ4VgEqdgIbOrnRaJamm0uleZBx9KGuNW0A Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.1.0.1062-23422.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--9.872-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--9.872-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: u7Yf2n7Ca/0v2k3M27J31p21GZGE81yGt+hhn8Iy6GXadW4iYSMjUae7 nmhJA6kzZ81JypZjTb8E5rtJqNQ7b5R0O6A0usb1lVHM/F6YkvT2acON9Q+rnsUmcSma304TSsX dBTjJu8OSJDsK0LUOWcs84zBIgEgt4QsjLzswuv5omJbPMdjPdDTbofuc5kuvut/GVGOoEnf36x IGbTm5O04kHnA/WiqE3Qq0ey35KMz3fZ+bzIHVnpMSBMTQNiSAgHzgwy8qV5qn29pdUyz/h6iZa OZUGVmq/6RJK3ec/64XmgKQJcfTfxfz4r7vtfFdEwyZyuMQ4119LQinZ4QefNQdB5NUNSsi1GcR AJRT6POOhzOa6g8Krd19Xc5DsagHF579ZkVnbrEvOrf2mPPrO5u42yXdmt9go8DNoH0+vRVDDKa 3G4nrLQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 22:18:01 -0000 Hi, "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" Cheers, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram [mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com] > Sent: 27 October 2017 22:28 > To: Daniele Ceccarelli; Leeyoung; Adrian Farrel; Italo Busi; Khuzema = Pithewan; > Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE); Luyuan Fang; diego@tid.es; Belotti, = Sergio (Nokia - > IT); d.king@lancaster.ac.uk; Dhruv Dhody; Gert Grammel > Cc: teas@ietf.org; TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 >=20 > Authors, Contributors, WG, >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? >=20 > Please state either: >=20 > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? >=20 > If yes to the above, please state either: >=20 > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" >=20 > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer = the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. 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From nobody Fri Oct 27 15:20:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF7813F5D8 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:20:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.219 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.219 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N1JqKkVNjkmv for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BD2A13A317 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DYO03147; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 22:20:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 23:20:53 +0100 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.102]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.104]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:20:41 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: "teas@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.txt Thread-Index: AQHTT3D8se/jHhwtGECeTWi6971Z+KL4Q47Q Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 22:20:40 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF3ABEC@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <150914244102.2759.11006411039725745597@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <150914244102.2759.11006411039725745597@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.140.152] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090201.59F3B146.007D, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.1.102, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: bc6db19ddb3a2f36fcec28329450560d Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 22:20:58 -0000 Hi, The revision is to update the discussions on CNC. In Section 3.1, we added= a paragraph thanks to Lou, Michael and Fatai. NEW: The capability of a CNC beyond its CMI role is outside the scope of=20 ACTN and may be implemented in different ways. For example, the CNC=20 may in fact be a controller or part of a controller in the customer's=20 domain, or the CNC functionality could also be implemented as part of=20 a provisioning portal. END Thanks, Young -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 5:14 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF. Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic = Engineered Networks Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli Young Lee Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2017-10-27 Abstract: Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic networking. Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a single virtualized network that is under the control of a network operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns the network resources. This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Fri Oct 27 15:22:45 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173AE13F5E8 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:22:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.219 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.219 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I83SDQpeI8rk for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E97A13A317 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml709-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DRK96732; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 22:22:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.38) by lhreml709-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 23:22:14 +0100 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.102]) by SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.145]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:22:11 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: "teas@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07.txt Thread-Index: AQHTT26fKKF42wrBXUWi5ELLz0Ssk6L4ROvw Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 22:22:10 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF3ABFD@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <150914143078.22164.14629093047078010332@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <150914143078.22164.14629093047078010332@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.140.152] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090201.59F3B1AD.0085, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.1.102, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 6b0797e911a13a4645a0c2d54619bf21 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 22:22:41 -0000 Hi, The revision is to update the email address of Yunbin.=20 Thanks. Young -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 4:57 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Abstraction and Control of TE Ne= tworks Authors : Young Lee Dhruv Dhody Sergio Belotti Khuzema Pithewan Daniele Ceccarelli Takuya Miyasaka Jong Yoon Shin Kwang-koog Lee Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2017-10-27 Abstract: This document provides a set of requirements for abstraction and control of Traffic Engineering networks to facilitate virtual network operation via the creation of a single virtualized network or a seamless service. This supports operators in viewing and controlling different domains (at any dimension: applied technology, administrative zones, or vendor-specific technology islands) as a single virtualized network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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charset="UTF-8" "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" Regards, Dhruv On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. 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"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to thi= s draft"

Regards,
Dhruv

=
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Vishnu Pavan Be= eram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Last Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

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(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

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above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
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If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
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participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/= group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
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Lopez" , "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT)" , "King, Daniel" , Gert Grammel , "teas@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11377ad84db0c2055c9298ce" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-10 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 02:59:36 -0000 --001a11377ad84db0c2055c9298ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Thanks! Dhruv On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:58 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. 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No, I'm not awa= re of any IPR that applies to this draft.=C2=A0

Thanks!=C2=A0
= Dhruv

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:58 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupav= an@gmail.com> wrote:
Author= s, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG Last Call:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
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contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S<= br> TO LINES.

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the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
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participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/= group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
response.

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Due to steady and ardent efforts from WG, this framework is currently well-defined and clear from operator's perspectives. I support this document to become WG LC. Thanks. Kwang-koog Lee (KT) 2017. 10. 28. =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 7:21=EC=97=90 "Leeyoung" =EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: > Hi, > > The revision is to update the discussions on CNC. In Section 3.1, we > added a paragraph thanks to Lou, Michael and Fatai. > > NEW: > > The capability of a CNC beyond its CMI role is outside the scope of > ACTN and may be implemented in different ways. For example, the CNC > may in fact be a controller or part of a controller in the customer's > domain, or the CNC functionality could also be implemented as part of > a provisioning portal. > > END > > Thanks, > Young > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 5:14 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: teas@ietf.org > Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and > Signaling WG of the IETF. > > Title : Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffi= c > Engineered Networks > Authors : Daniele Ceccarelli > Young Lee > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.txt > Pages : 37 > Date : 2017-10-27 > > Abstract: > Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to > facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane. They > also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to > configure and activate network resources. These mechanisms > represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic > networking. > > Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be applied > to a single network domain or across multiple domains to create a > single virtualized network that is under the control of a network > operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns > the network resources. > > This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control of > Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN). > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --001a1146b54aa4efa3055c943dd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
With o= ther providers currently, KT is also deeply invloved with such enabling and= developing the flexibilty to our networks for customers and simplicity of = operations by the SDN-based control/management system era.=C2=A0
Due to steady and ardent effo= rts from WG, this framework is currently well-defined and clear from operat= or's perspectives.=C2=A0

I support th= is document to become WG LC.=C2=A0
Thanks.

Kwang-ko= og Lee (KT)

2017. 10. 28. =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 7:21=EC=97=90 "Leeyoung" &= lt;leeyoung@huawei.com>=EB=8B= =98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:
Hi,

The revision is to update the discussions on CNC.=C2=A0 In Section 3.1, we = added a paragraph thanks to Lou, Michael and Fatai.

NEW:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The capability of a CNC beyond its CMI role is outside the sco= pe of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0ACTN and may be implemented in different ways. For example, th= e CNC
=C2=A0 =C2=A0may in fact be a controller or part of a controller in the cus= tomer's
=C2=A0 =C2=A0domain, or the CNC functionality could also be implemented as = part of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0a provisioning portal.

END

Thanks,
Young
-----Original Message-----
From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of intern= et-drafts@ietf.org
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 5:14 PM
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
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Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= Framework for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Dani= ele Ceccarelli
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Young Lee
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-teas-actn-framework-11.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 37
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2017-10-27

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Traffic Engineered networks have a variety of mechanisms to =C2=A0 =C2=A0facilitate the separation of the data plane and control plane.= They
=C2=A0 =C2=A0also have a range of management and provisioning protocols to<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0configure and activate network resources.=C2=A0 These mechanis= ms
=C2=A0 =C2=A0represent key technologies for enabling flexible and dynamic =C2=A0 =C2=A0networking.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Abstraction of network resources is a technique that can be ap= plied
=C2=A0 =C2=A0to a single network domain or across multiple domains to creat= e a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0single virtualized network that is under the control of a netw= ork
=C2=A0 =C2=A0operator or the customer of the operator that actually owns =C2=A0 =C2=A0the network resources.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document provides a framework for Abstraction and Control= of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN).



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/do= c/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-= ietf-teas-actn-framework-11
https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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From: Leeyoung
Date: 2017-10-28 05:51
CC:=  Zhenghaomian
Subject: FW: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requi= rements-06
Hi Yunbin,
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Hope this email reaches you. Would you please reply to the email s= ent by the TEAS WG chairs (Pavan) for IPR declaration associated with ACTN= requirement draft? Please reply to TEAS WG and TEAS WG chairs, teas@ietf.= org  and teas-chairs@ietf.org.
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Than= ks,
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From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram [mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.= com]
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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 4:33 PM
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To:= Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>; Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.co= m>; Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT) <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>; Khuz= ema Pithewan <kpithewan@infinera.com>; Daniele Ceccarelli <daniel= e.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; ta-miyasaka@kddi.com; jongyoon.shin@sk.com;= kwangkoog.lee@kt.com; xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn; toshiaki.suzuki.cs@hitac= hi.com; Zhenghaomian <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>
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Cc: teas= @ietf.org; TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
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Subjec= t: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06
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Authors, Contributors, WG,
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"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draf= t"
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If so, has this IPR been disclosed in = compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more deta= ils)?
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If yes to the above, please state e= ither:
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"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed i= n compliance with IETF IPR rules"
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or
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"No, the IP= R has not been disclosed"
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If you answer n= o, please provide any additional details you think appropriate.
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If you are listed as a document author or contribut= or please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of wheth= er or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advanc= e to the next stage until a response has been received from each author an= d listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESS= AGE'S TO LINES.
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If you are on the WG emai= l list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributo= r, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encour= ages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF c= ontribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discu= ssion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see th= e RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/In= tellectualProperty.
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Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:34:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150931647703.3511.2460259960345064566@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:34:37 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-09.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:34:37 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Traffic Engineering Tunnels and Interfaces Authors : Tarek Saad Rakesh Gandhi Xufeng Liu Vishnu Pavan Beeram Himanshu Shah Igor Bryskin Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-09.txt Pages : 153 Date : 2017-10-29 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for the configuration and management of Traffic Engineering (TE) interfaces, tunnels and Label Switched Paths (LSPs). The model is divided into YANG modules that classify data into generic, device-specific, technology agnostic, and technology-specific elements. The model also includes module(s) that contain reusable TE data types and data groupings. This model covers data for configuration, operational state, remote procedural calls, and event notifications. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Oct 29 17:18:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B2E13FCC8; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 17:18:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150932269983.3433.8226345479775948752@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 17:18:19 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 00:18:20 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Resource Reservation Protocol (RSVP) Authors : Vishnu Pavan Beeram Tarek Saad Rakesh Gandhi Xufeng Liu Igor Bryskin Himanshu Shah Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-08.txt Pages : 47 Date : 2017-10-29 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for the configuration and management of RSVP Protocol. The model covers the building blocks of the RSVP protocol that can be augmented and used by other RSVP extension models such as RVSP extensions to Traffic-Engineering (RSVP-TE). The model covers the configuration, operational state, remote procedural calls, and event notifications data. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Oct 29 17:18:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7884D13FCD0; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 17:18:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150932270746.3426.3220773532456344196@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 17:18:27 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-te-02.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 00:18:27 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for RSVP-TE Authors : Vishnu Pavan Beeram Tarek Saad Rakesh Gandhi Xufeng Liu Igor Bryskin Himanshu Shah Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-te-02.txt Pages : 44 Date : 2017-10-29 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for the configuration and management of RSVP (Resource Reservation Protocol) to establish Traffic-Engineered (TE) Label-Switched Paths (LSPs) for MPLS (Multi- Protocol Label Switching) and other technologies. The model defines a generic RSVP-TE module for signaling LSPs that is technology agnostic. The generic RSVP-TE module is to be augmented by technology specific RSVP-TE modules that define technology specific data. This document defines the augmentation for RSVP-TE MPLS LSPs model. This model covers data for the configuration, operational state, remote procedural calls, and event notifications. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-te/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-te-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-te-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-te-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Oct 29 19:14:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3525F13FC72; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 19:14:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.82 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.82 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rRPAS-m4y1fA; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 19:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post-send.kddi.com (athena4.kddi.com [27.90.165.197]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5E213F599; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 19:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LTMC2121.kddi.com (post-send [10.206.2.120]) by post-send.kddi.com (KDDI Mail) with ESMTP id D4B281200F9; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:14:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from LTMC2146.kddi.com ([10.206.0.236] [10.206.0.236]) by LTMC2121.kddi.com with ESMTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:14:51 +0900 Received: from LTMC2146.kddi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.kddi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0AE30005D; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:14:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from LTMC2154.kddi.com (post-incheck [10.206.0.239]) by LTMC2146.kddi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1432300051; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:14:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from LTMC2154.kddi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by LTMC2154.kddi.com with ESMTP id v9U2Eo74173124; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:14:51 +0900 Received: from LTMC2154.kddi.com.mid_15481306 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by LTMC2154.kddi.com with ESMTP id v9U2A2c1166176; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:10:02 +0900 X-SA-MID: 15481306 Received: from KDDI1312PC0461 ([10.210.106.177] [10.210.106.177]) by post-smtp2.kddi.com with ESMTPA; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:10:01 +0900 From: "Takuya Miyasaka" To: "'Vishnu Pavan Beeram'" , "'Leeyoung'" , "'Dhruv Dhody'" , "'Belotti, Sergio \(Nokia - IT\)'" , "'Khuzema Pithewan'" , "'Daniele Ceccarelli'" , , , , , Cc: "'TEAS WG Chairs'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:10:01 +0900 Message-ID: <004d01d35124$315d7fc0$94187f40$@kddi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHfCHkuF7dkiCGNXsKNOtO7jLi7rKLkNvzQ Content-Language: ja X-TM-AS-MML: disable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-06 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 02:14:55 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Thanks, Takuya > -----Original Message----- > > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless > of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. 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For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > TEAS WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Sun Oct 29 19:47:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50DE13FD6F; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 19:47:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150933164965.3397.5192389565634999914@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 19:47:29 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo-13.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 02:47:30 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : YANG Data Model for Traffic Engineering (TE) Topologies Authors : Xufeng Liu Igor Bryskin Vishnu Pavan Beeram Tarek Saad Himanshu Shah Oscar Gonzalez De Dios Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo-13.txt Pages : 134 Date : 2017-10-29 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for representing, retrieving and manipulating Traffic Engineering (TE) Topologies. The model serves as a base model that other technology specific TE Topology models can augment. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Oct 29 22:56:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D48F1394F2 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:56:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oCHteMVZZRYQ for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from secumail1.sktelecom.com (secumail1.sktelecom.com [203.236.20.242]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8204713FDA2 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO SKT-EXEDGE1.skt.ad) (203.236.20.56) by 203.236.20.242 with ESMTP; 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Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If = yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed = once the document is a WG document. The poll ends Nov 7th. Thanks, Pavan and Lou _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Mon Oct 30 05:56:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D1A13F907; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 05:56:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150936819195.3433.15693880087955597574@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 05:56:32 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:56:32 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Techniques to Improve the Scalability of RSVP Traffic Engineering Deployments Authors : Vishnu Pavan Beeram Ina Minei Rob Shakir Dante Pacella Tarek Saad Filename : draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-08.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2017-10-30 Abstract: At the time of writing, networks which utilize RSVP Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) are encountering limitations in the ability of implementations to support the growth in the number of LSPs deployed. This document defines two techniques, "Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP)" and "Per-Peer Flow-Control", that reduce the number of processing cycles required to maintain RSVP-TE LSP state in Label Switching Routers (LSRs) and hence allow implementations to support larger scale deployments. 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AdNRxWcB+P3Rllw7S+G5mxo3wMmUbg== Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:28:44 +0000 Message-ID: <84b3709ae3844a3c88dc01873e61faa4@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.213.60] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] Slides and updates for Singapore X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:28:48 -0000 All, The draft agenda is now up at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/mate= rials/agenda-100-teas/. Please let me know if there's anything needs changi= ng. If you're presenting, please send slides to me and the Chairs by the end of= next Friday (November 10) so that we can get them posted in good time for = people to have an advance look at them if they want. If you have a WG draft that isn't being presented, please send an update on= current status to the list by the same date. Thanks in advance! Matt/Lou/Pavan From nobody Mon Oct 30 15:32:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4771C15D; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:31:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150940271076.28282.11306043124938136558@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:31:50 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-09.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:31:51 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Network Assigned Upstream-Label Authors : Xian Zhang Vishnu Pavan Beeram Igor Bryskin Daniele Ceccarelli Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Filename : draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-09.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2017-10-30 Abstract: This document discusses a Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Resource reSerVation Protocol with Traffic Engineering (RSVP- TE) mechanism that enables the network to assign an upstream label for a bidirectional Label Switched Path (LSP). This is useful in scenarios where a given node does not have sufficient information to assign the correct upstream label on its own and needs to rely on the downstream node to pick an appropriate label. This document updates RFCs 3471, 3473 and 6205 as it defines processing for a special label value in the UPSTREAM_LABEL object. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Thanks,
Dieter and co-authors


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I'm not sure that the security considerations here are accurate. Specifically,
the PAS seems like it might potentially leak information about paths, because
if I am able to learn someone else's PAS values, I can tell if they are routed
along the same paths as I am. Is that correct? If so, it seems like it might be
useful to recommend self-encrypting PAS values so that two identical paths
given to separate people have different PAS values.

We do not believe that encryption at the UNI is required because the Path key (PCE approach) or the PAS information is not shared between the core network
and all edge nodes connected to the core network (see Figure 1). It is assumed that only a particular edge node receives a Path key or PAS information for an
LSP that this edge node initiated before requesting another LSP that shall meet certain diversity constraints insid the core network. Path keys and PAS is only
meaningful in the context of a pair or several LSPs oriiginating from the same edge node. These LSPs shall meet diversity constraints inside the core network in
order to avoid that they will all fail together due to a failure in the core network - a typical failure is a link cut.

Moreover, Path key or a PAS are already abstract information and do not allow the edge node to infer any topological information of the core network.


Also, it seems like it S 2.3 would be clearer if you factored out the algorithm
for processing the XRO values from the differential treatment depending on the
L bit. Perhaps you could just have one list and use [SHOULD (L=1), MUST(L=0)]
or something?
A combined list would be an alternative way to describe the processing rules for the L-flag in section2.3.
On the other hand, we believe that nothing is technically wrong with the current description, where two lists are used.
So, we would like to keep the description as is.

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The protection is that the PCE knows who is allowed to ask for = expansion, PCEP is session-based, PCEP security now exists. =20 A =20 From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dieter Beller Sent: 31 October 2017 17:58 To: Eric Rescorla; The IESG Cc: draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity@ietf.org; lberger@labn.net; = teas-chairs@ietf.org; teas@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Teas] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on = draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: (with COMMENT) =20 Hi Eric, my apologies for the late response - it was difficult for me finding = time in the last weeks to address the IESG review comments. Please find the answers to your comments in-line below. Could you please let us know if your comments are adequately addressed. Thanks, Dieter and co-authors On 30.08.2017 22:20, Eric Rescorla wrote: Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection =20 When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) =20 =20 Please refer to = https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. =20 =20 The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity/ =20 =20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- =20 I'm not sure that the security considerations here are accurate. = Specifically, the PAS seems like it might potentially leak information about paths, = because if I am able to learn someone else's PAS values, I can tell if they are = routed along the same paths as I am. Is that correct? If so, it seems like it = might be useful to recommend self-encrypting PAS values so that two identical = paths given to separate people have different PAS values. We do not believe that encryption at the UNI is required because the = Path key (PCE approach) or the PAS information is not shared between the = core network and all edge nodes connected to the core network (see Figure 1). It is = assumed that only a particular edge node receives a Path key or PAS = information for an LSP that this edge node initiated before requesting another LSP that = shall meet certain diversity constraints insid the core network. Path = keys and PAS is only meaningful in the context of a pair or several LSPs oriiginating from = the same edge node. These LSPs shall meet diversity constraints inside = the core network in order to avoid that they will all fail together due to a failure in the = core network - a typical failure is a link cut. Moreover, Path key or a PAS are already abstract information and do not = allow the edge node to infer any topological information of the core = network. =20 =20 Also, it seems like it S 2.3 would be clearer if you factored out the = algorithm for processing the XRO values from the differential treatment depending = on the L bit. Perhaps you could just have one list and use [SHOULD (L=3D1), = MUST(L=3D0)] or something? =20 A combined list would be an alternative way to describe the processing = rules for the L-flag in section2.3. On the other hand, we believe that nothing is technically wrong with the = current description, where two lists are used. So, we would like to keep the description as is. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01D35274.84907520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Agree with Dieter = here.

 

The risk in this case is that = a 3rd party could see the path key in flight (control plane or PCEP) and = then issue a query to the PCE to expand the key.

The protection is that the PCE = knows who is allowed to ask for expansion, PCEP is session-based, PCEP = security now exists.

 

A

 

From: = Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dieter = Beller
Sent: 31 October 2017 17:58
To: Eric = Rescorla; The IESG
Cc: draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity@ietf.org; = lberger@labn.net; teas-chairs@ietf.org; teas@ietf.org
Subject: = Re: [Teas] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on = draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: (with = COMMENT)

 

Hi Eric,

my apologies for the late response - it was = difficult for me finding time in the last weeks to address the IESG = review comments.

Please find the answers to your comments in-line = below.

Could you please let us know if your comments are = adequately addressed.


Thanks,
Dieter and co-authors

On 30.08.2017 22:20, = Eric Rescorla wrote:

Eric Rescorla has =
entered the following ballot position =
for
draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No =
Objection
 
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responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to =
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lines. (Feel free to cut this
introductory =
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however.)
 
 
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//www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
<= pre>for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT = positions.
 
 
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COMMENT:
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I'm not sure that the =
security considerations here are accurate. =
Specifically,
the PAS seems like it might =
potentially leak information about paths, =
because
if I am able to learn someone else's PAS =
values, I can tell if they are routed
along the =
same paths as I am. Is that correct? If so, it seems like it might =
be
useful to recommend self-encrypting PAS values =
so that two identical paths
given to separate =
people have different PAS values.


We do not believe that encryption at the UNI is required = because the Path key (PCE approach) or the PAS information is not shared = between the core network
and all edge nodes connected to the core = network (see Figure 1). It is assumed that only a particular edge node = receives a Path key or PAS information for an
LSP that this edge node = initiated before requesting another LSP that shall meet certain = diversity constraints insid the core network. Path keys and PAS is = only
meaningful in the context of a pair or several LSPs oriiginating = from the same edge node. These LSPs shall meet diversity constraints = inside the core network in
order to avoid that they will all fail = together due to a failure in the core network - a typical failure is a = link cut.

Moreover, Path key or a PAS are already abstract = information and do not allow the edge node to infer any topological = information of the core network.


 
 
Also, it =
seems like it S 2.3 would be clearer if you factored out the =
algorithm
for processing the XRO values from the =
differential treatment depending on the
L bit. =
Perhaps you could just have one list and use [SHOULD (L=3D1), =
MUST(L=3D0)]
or =
something?
 

A combined list = would be an alternative way to describe the processing rules for the = L-flag in section2.3.
On the other hand, we believe that nothing is = technically wrong with the current description, where two lists are = used.
So, we would like to keep the description as = is.

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RFC 8271 Title: Updates to the Resource Reservation Protocol for Fast Reroute of Traffic Engineering GMPLS Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Author: M. Taillon, T. Saad, Ed., R. Gandhi, Ed., Z. Ali, M. Bhatia Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: October 2017 Mailbox: mtaillon@cisco.com, tsaad@cisco.com, rgandhi@cisco.com, zali@cisco.com, manav.bhatia@nokia.com Pages: 24 Characters: 53407 Updates: RFC 4090 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-lsp-fastreroute-12.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8271 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8271 This document updates the Resource Reservation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) Fast Reroute (FRR) procedures defined in RFC 4090 to support Packet Switch Capable (PSC) Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs). These updates allow the coordination of a bidirectional bypass tunnel assignment protecting a common facility in both forward and reverse directions of a co-routed bidirectional LSP. In addition, these updates enable the redirection of bidirectional traffic onto bypass tunnels that ensure the co-routing of data paths in the forward and reverse directions after FRR and avoid RSVP soft-state timeout in the control plane. This document is a product of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. 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