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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nokia.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 954afb7c-d853-4230-332a-08d52109819f X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 01 Nov 2017 09:18:25.5284 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM5PR0701MB2547 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:18:29 -0000 Yes/support I believe the YANG model should be published on standards track I'll post a separate e-mail with some comments. None of my comments should = prevent working group adoption. Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan > Beeram > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:52 AM > To: teas@ietf.org > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-busibel-teas-yang-path- > computation >=20 > All, >=20 > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 a TEAS working group > document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not supp= ort". > If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If ye= s, > please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed onc= e > the document is a WG document. >=20 > The poll ends Nov 7th. >=20 > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Wed Nov 1 02:19:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2448213F4FA; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 02:19:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nokia.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ypss77Bl1Yah; 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MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: nokia.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nokia.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 416facd6-d902-41f5-5af0-08d521099f20 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 01 Nov 2017 09:19:15.0132 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM5PR0701MB2547 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] Comments on draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:19:20 -0000 Hi all, I have read draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 again after a while= , and this has triggered some comments. As far as I can see, my observation= s are mostly about content organization, and none of these comments affects= the YANG model itself. As a result, I believe these are all non-blocking c= omments that can be sorted out when the I-D is a WG document. The document = is certainly the right starting point for a WG document. I support WG adopt= ion. As I am an author, I have explicitly flagged comments related own text. Comments: * "Intended status: Informational": I believe the YANG model should be publ= ished on standards track * Abstract and introduction: If the objective is to standardize the YANG mo= del, the abstract and introduction could focus more on that aspect * Introduction and other sections: The exact use of the term "PCE" may have= to be reviewed, e.g., in statements such as "... allowing the Path Computa= tion Element (PCE) within the Orchestrator to perform multi-domain path com= putation...". An orchestrator may not necessarily implement exactly what I = think is defined as "PCE", e.g., when the orchestrator deals with multi-poi= nt services. But this is orthogonal to the content of the document. * Section 2.1: I think this use case 1 should be renamed, as there is no re= al IP/optical integration in the use case. To me, the use case is about pro= viding optical connectivity, not about any multi-layer functionality in the= IP layer. Also, I think the use case could also be applied to non-IP traff= ic - the question what traffic is transported IMHO does not affect the path= computation in scope of the document. * Figure 1: This figure should either be improved or removed. One could und= erstand from this rendering that the considered routers in the IP network a= re *all* edge routers (PEs or ASBR). If a full IP network should be rendere= d, P routers would have to be shown, too, in order to make the figure reali= stic. As already explained, the IP network topology and the "IP controller"= probably do not matter for this use case. They should IMHO be removed as t= hat aspect doesn't matter for this document. For the use case only the inte= rface between the orchestrator and the optical domain controller matters. * Figure 2: This figure is not correct in the IP layer. For instance, the I= P domain controller will know the IP links (IGP links) between the "IP node= s", and these IP links are missing in this figure. I find this figure in th= e IP layer confusing. Anyway, I don't think this figure is needed for the f= ollowing discussion of how to provision optical services. * Section 2.1.1: "In this use case, the orchestrator needs to setup an opti= mal path between two IP routers R1 and R2." This wording is confusing as "p= ath" could also refer to an IP path. I think a better alternative would be:= "In this use case, the orchestrator needs to setup optimal (optical) conne= ctivity between two IP routers R1 and R2" (or whatever other term that cann= ot be confused). * Section 2.3: This use case 3 makes some assumptions that can be questione= d, e.g., "In this use case, a virtual machine within Data Center 1 (DC1) ne= eds to transfer data to another virtual machine that can reside either in D= C2 or in DC3.". I think we have already discussed in the context of an ACTN= framework whether a WAN controller would really deal with individual virtu= al machines, and whether this is a useful granularity for an EMS/NMS/contro= ller in the WAN. For the ACTN framework, I think the consensus was to focus= on the attachment points of the data center, not VMs. At minimum, a simila= r change seems to make sense here. In addition, this use case also neglects= the impact of the data center network, which would require a lot of additi= onal discussion. For connectivity provisioning, I think use case 3 is ident= ical to use case 1, and beyond that there are no clear requirements. As a r= esult, use case 3 could IMHO be removed from the document without any impac= t. * Section 3: "Interactions with TE Topology": If the objective is to standa= rdize a YANG model, one might expect in a section with this title a discuss= ion on how the YANG models uses the TE model, e.g., how the RPC is augmente= d etc. Instead I believe this section more focuses on *why* a path computat= ion YANG model is needed. The content is highly useful, but I think it over= laps with Section 4. I think Section 3 and 4 (and partly even Section 6) co= uld be merged into an overall motivation section with less overlap. The num= erical examples could perhaps also be moved to an appendix. Note that I do = believe that the numerical examples are very useful and should be included = in the document - but it may not have to be normative. * Section 4 (well, my own text): "Path computation requests should be close= ly aligned with the YANG data models that provide (abstract) TE topology in= formation, i.e., [TE-TOPO] as well as that are used to configure and manage= TE Tunnels, i.e., [TE-TUNNEL]." This and following text is very old wordin= g from early drafts. I think this objective is achieved now, and this text = can be rephrased in a follow-up version of the I-D. I apologize for the leg= acy text, I should have looked at this earlier. * Section 5: While the document may reference ACTN in the introduction as c= ontext, I believe the main content of the I-D should be agnostic of whether= the ACTN framework is assumed, or not. Path computation can also be used i= n context outside of ACTN, e.g., within systems that make different assumpt= ions and design choices. I think this draft should be agnostic to ACTN outs= ide e.g. the introduction. Otherwise e.g. the I-D would have to be updated = if the ACTN framework is modified. And I don't think that any dependency on= ACTN is needed for the actual modeling. As this draft is useful no matter = whether an implementation follows the ACTN assumptions or not, I think in S= ection 5 all ACTN terminology should be removed. * If the YANG model shall be the main contribution, Section 6 has to be ext= ended with an introduction of the actual YANG model and its modeling design= choices, e.g., how to use "synchronization" in the YANG model. * Section 6.2 could be a main section, IMHO. * Section 6.2.1: I wonder why "pathComputationService" and some few other Y= ANG constructs uses capital letters; this is certainly possible but is it i= ntentional? * In a later version of the ID, it may make sense to include an actual exam= ple for a path computation request (e.g., for XML encoding in NETCONF). As mentioned earlier, I believe all these issues can be addressed when the = document is a WG document. 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my apologies for the late response - it was difficult for me finding time in the last weeks to address the IESG review comments.

Please find inline below how we suggest to address your comment.

Could you please let us know whether your comment is adequately addressed.


Thanks,
Dieter and co-authors

On 31.08.2017 06:00, Suresh Krishnan wrote:
Suresh Krishnan has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection

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* Section 2.1
  Is there a separate diversity identifier type called "IPv6 Client Initiated
  Identifier" as referenced in the following text

"When the diversity identifier type is set to "IPv6 Client Initiated
Identifier""

If there isn't such a DI Type, can you please fix this text.

Good catch! Fixed as follows:

When the diversity identifier type is set to "Client
Initiated Identifier" in the IPv6 Diversity XRO subobject,
the diversity identifier value MUST be encoded as follows:

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my apologies for the late response - it was difficult for me finding time in the last weeks to address the IESG review comments.

We are still in the process of addressing the SecDir review comments. We will put you in cc when we will send the reply to Ben.


Thanks,
Dieter and co-authors
On 30.08.2017 22:11, Kathleen Moriarty wrote:
Kathleen Moriarty has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection

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I agree with the SecDir review, but don't see a response so I am bringing attention to it here:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/secdir/pLKMfe4j8dPeNdEgWYu3SAnC-rs
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that a= pplies to this draft.

Kwang-koog Lee
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my apologies for the late response - it was difficult for me finding time in the last weeks to address the IESG review comments.

Please find inline below how we suggest to address your comments.

Could you please let us know whether your comments are adequately addressed.


Thanks,
Dieter and co-authors

On 30.08.2017 07:42, Adam Roach wrote:
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The Abstract should stand on its own; and, as such, needs to expand the "XRO"
and "EXRS" acronyms (similar to the Introduction).

Changed as suggested:

This document specifies two new diversity subobjects for the RSVP eXclude Route Object (XRO) and the Explicit Exclusion Route Subobject (EXRS).


For completeness, the definition of the "E" flag in section 2.1 probably needs
to indicate that bit 0x08 is reserved, and MUST be set to 0 send, ignored on
receipt.

Changed as suggested:

0x08 = reserved

 

This flag is reserved. It MUST be set to zero on transmission, and MUST be ignored on receipt for both IPv4/IPv6 Diversity XRO subobjects.



In section 3.2, on page 19, concerning the following text:

      If, subsequent to the initial signaling of a diverse LSP, the
      requested exclusion constraints for the diverse LSP are no longer
      satisfied and an alternative path for the diverse LSP that can
      satisfy those constraints exists, then:

The phrasing "no longer satisfied" seems a bit incomplete, as (by my
understanding) the constraints might not have been satisfied in the first
place, if the L-bit was set in the initial request. I presume that, if this
were to happen, you'd want to signal when a compliant path became available --
but the current text doesn't indicate that this is okay. Perhaps something
like: "...are no longer satisfied (or, in the case that the initial request
triggered a "Failed to satisfy Exclude Route" error subcode, remain
unsatisfied), and an alternative path for..."
Here is the re-phrased text:

If, subsequent to the initial signaling of a diverse LSP, an
excluded path referenced in the XRO subobject becomes known to
the processing node, or a change in the excluded path becomes
known to the processing node, the processing node MUST re-
evaluate the exclusion and diversity constraints requested by the
diverse LSP to determine whether they are still satisfied.

-   In case the L-flag was not set in the initial setup message,
   the exclusion and diversity constraints were satisfied at the
   time of the initial setup. If the processing node re-evaluating
   the exclusion and diversity constraints for a diverse LSP
   detects that the exclusion and diversity constraints are no
   longer met, it MUST send a PathErr message for the diverse LSP
   with the error code "Routing Problem" (24) and error sub-code
   "Route blocked by Exclude Route" (67). The Path_State_Removed
   flag (PSR) [RFC3473] MUST NOT be set. A source node receiving a
   PathErr message with this error code and sub-code combination
   SHOULD take appropriate actions and move the diverse LSP to a
   new path that meets the original constraints.

-   In case the L-flag was set in the initial setup message, the
   exclusion and diversity constraints may or may not be satisfied
   at any given time. If the exclusion constraints for a diverse
   LSP were satisfied before and if the processing node re-
   evaluating the exclusion and diversity constraints for a
   diverse LSP detects that exclusion and diversity constraints
   are no longer met, it MUST send a PathErr message for the
   diverse LSP with the error code error code "Notify Error" (25)
   and error sub-code TBA5 "Failed to satisfy Exclude Route"
   (value: to be assigned by IANA). The PSR flag MUST NOT be set.
   The source node MAY take no consequent action and keep the LSP
   along the path that does not meet the original constraints.
   Similarly, if the exclusion constraints for a diverse LSP were
   not satisfied before and if the processing node re-evaluating
   the exclusion and diversity constraints for a diverse LSP
   detects that the exclusion constraints are met, it MUST send a
   PathErr message for the diverse LSP with the error code "Notify
   Error" (25) and a new error sub- code TBA6 "Compliant path
   exists" (value: to be assigned by IANA). The PSR flag MUST NOT
   be set. A source node receiving a PathErr message with this
   error code and sub-code combination MAY move the diverse LSP to
   a new path that meets the original constraints.


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my apologies for the late response - it was difficult for me finding time in the last weeks to address the IESG review comments.

Please find inline below how we suggest to address your comments.

Could you please let us know whether your comments are adequately addressed.


Thanks,
Dieter and co-authors

On 30.08.2017 21:51, Warren Kumari wrote:
Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for
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I support Adam's position. I also think that Ignas Bagdonas' OpsDir review (
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08-opsdir-lc-bagdonas-2017-08-30/
) needs careful consideration / addressing. I almost balloted DISCUSS from
them, but trust that they will be addressed.

We are carefully considering these review comments.


I did find much of the document well written and an easy read. The diagrams
were also (surprisingly) clear.

thanks for this positive feedback!


I have some nits / comments, mainly around the abstract.
1:   "Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE)"  -
s/ReserVation/ReSerVation/ (otherwise the (R)RSVP would be (R)RVP)

Changed as suggested.


2: " Three different mechanisms are supported how LSP diversity can be
accomplished in the provider or core network: ..." - this doesn't really parse.
Perhaps " Three different mechanisms providing LSP diversity in the provider or
core network are supported:..." ? Not great, but ...

We modified this sentence as follows:

Three different mechanisms are defined to accomplish LSP diversity in the provider or core network: the signaled diversity type indicates whether diversity is based on client, path computation engine (PCE), or network assigned identifiers.

3: "The solution described in this document is based on the assumption that
LSPs are requested sequentially, i.e., the time period between the LSP setup
requests for the two LSPs may be longer (days, weeks, months)." -- may be
longer than what? Perhaps "may be relatively long" or "may be on the order of
days / weeks / months"?

4" "Re-routing the first LSP that may have existed for a longer period of time
is not considered." - again, longer than what? Longer than the second (/ Ntn)?
Longer than months?

Does the following revised text address your comments 3 and 4?

The solution described in this document is based on the assumption that LSPs are requested sequentially, i.e., the time period between the LSP setup requests for the two LSPs may be relatively long (in the order of days, weeks, months). Re-routing the LSP that was established first and may have existed for some time is not considered.


From nobody Thu Nov 2 11:02:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E2C13F79A for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 11:02:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kumari-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fPM9_TX7EjPu for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 11:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74ECD13F792 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 11:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id y80so664403wmd.0 for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2017 11:02:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kumari-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8DfPCFc+IYuMn4n8oml7DNSkJpKXnxWPNhr6V4G8VO4=; b=FvV4Zz4zyUQVWPeGlnmQ4EmOH7B09OLoC205/LKXwQ5AZJ5PFL3SL27OJNvfrKpHL6 afNJl6Z+PTqCJK7E+5+ZmKJQkkKOwk83AGr69OJS96Gq/Gzxr/EDAA1XUH5EPoAxZ7Gl 7/JlJ8tcuDN1ovIBxMLmgcy5TxfvOPwGqwOYriOyjN4qZrib56q9h1PkRkqkWnKS2z/k rIND7Sc4DUPAAk3eyaXEgHyh+lJeG65OMXXUlVSuGdVk3Lrt/hx0IIPoFRE/Y2sec+Hu LAemkWBvTOcAM/AS+/M9NJHn/4FyyxXGnC5VQUg+1uHB1lDS5tuXH1tSfNdUpy9vNGG1 AJag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8DfPCFc+IYuMn4n8oml7DNSkJpKXnxWPNhr6V4G8VO4=; b=SmUH5YyLfPqEUwcwq7p8p8kwYHwNCdI6CvmzsHFFGm9lvS5QBYHVcBXUNnGPUF8XRr XfPDO/rjQSCiXdQi1FxnGuV0sQBW7XCIGMSHN0GNycOOCEjqa/eQ0vf2oJH7bZqGLT2d fEiF8p7wzllwHGd3UNuCVqxi3S24Ht+sbzSj9feSM/yznqXDCtaI2QehhroV29mVbBAb 5q4YkCl61L3gwBz/P8H57CIq1jGKpJfg6EdF5+z67mygyfh7XI0Se8ibrREvggSLM1MT H1A5TFQhJ8QnEFymii9OHn8Z5zYEQCMaH/9liogez116h6Y1JjE0OtocKEFQO2VB4gRX zqXg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXCeECfeCjpGRpuwZyMtnupJIGBrjTCHRln4xPLMG1eGze6G1Wg E2+vGWHHQ2/HbYJd5TSmovAva+1eOu5OE4vKWK3DmQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+R3hZ0AkyQInG8mfJ/hRGNV1sN0ABdVMKEu4Fx39bMwtlCKbbcn4bC/aryIH7MUTz2ZlZYRPKMp6hz7ioxqJqk= X-Received: by 10.28.26.138 with SMTP id a132mr2477836wma.124.1509645772515; Thu, 02 Nov 2017 11:02:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.187.12 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Nov 2017 11:02:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4e136604-5aea-23cb-7b4c-a8f4ce062555@nokia.com> References: <150412271755.21516.1901292161465183277.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4e136604-5aea-23cb-7b4c-a8f4ce062555@nokia.com> From: Warren Kumari Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:02:11 -0400 Message-ID: To: Dieter Beller Cc: The IESG , draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity@ietf.org, teas-chairs@ietf.org, Lou Berger , teas@ietf.org, Ignas Bagdonas Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 18:02:56 -0000 On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Dieter Beller wrote: > Hi Warren, > > my apologies for the late response - it was difficult for me finding time in > the last weeks to address the IESG review comments. > > Please find inline below how we suggest to address your comments. > > Could you please let us know whether your comments are adequately addressed. Yes thank you -- your solutions work for me, thanks for addressing my comments. W > > > Thanks, > Dieter and co-authors > > On 30.08.2017 21:51, Warren Kumari wrote: > > Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I support Adam's position. I also think that Ignas Bagdonas' OpsDir review ( > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08-opsdir-lc-bagdonas-2017-08-30/ > ) needs careful consideration / addressing. I almost balloted DISCUSS from > them, but trust that they will be addressed. > > > We are carefully considering these review comments. > > > I did find much of the document well written and an easy read. The diagrams > were also (surprisingly) clear. > > > thanks for this positive feedback! > > > I have some nits / comments, mainly around the abstract. > 1: "Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE)" - > s/ReserVation/ReSerVation/ (otherwise the (R)RSVP would be (R)RVP) > > > Changed as suggested. > > > 2: " Three different mechanisms are supported how LSP diversity can be > accomplished in the provider or core network: ..." - this doesn't really > parse. > Perhaps " Three different mechanisms providing LSP diversity in the provider > or > core network are supported:..." ? Not great, but ... > > > We modified this sentence as follows: > > Three different mechanisms are defined to accomplish LSP diversity in the > provider or core network: the signaled diversity type indicates whether > diversity is based on client, path computation engine (PCE), or network > assigned identifiers. > > 3: "The solution described in this document is based on the assumption that > LSPs are requested sequentially, i.e., the time period between the LSP setup > requests for the two LSPs may be longer (days, weeks, months)." -- may be > longer than what? Perhaps "may be relatively long" or "may be on the order > of > days / weeks / months"? > > 4" "Re-routing the first LSP that may have existed for a longer period of > time > is not considered." - again, longer than what? Longer than the second (/ > Ntn)? > Longer than months? > > > Does the following revised text address your comments 3 and 4? > > The solution described in this document is based on the assumption that LSPs > are requested sequentially, i.e., the time period between the LSP setup > requests for the two LSPs may be relatively long (in the order of days, > weeks, months). Re-routing the LSP that was established first and may have > existed for some time is not considered. > > -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support as coauthor, I believe this document is ready for publication, than= ks! -Qin > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Be= eram > Sent: 23 October 2017 20:09 > To: teas at ietf.org > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 > > All, > This starts a two-week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 > > The working group last call ends on Nov 6th. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > Pavan and Lou. > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas at ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas --_000_B8F9A780D330094D99AF023C5877DABA9AC5FF5Cnkgeml513mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; 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Support as coauthor, I believe this document is r=
eady for publication, thanks!
 
-Qin
> -----Original Message-----=

> From: Teas [=
mailto:teas-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram<=
/o:p>
> Sent: 23 October 2017 20:09
> To: teas at ietf.org
> Cc: TEAS WG Chairs
> Subject: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-t=
eas-scheduled-resources-03
> 
> All,
> This starts a two-week working group last ca=
ll on
> draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03<=
/o:p>
> 
> The working group last call ends on Nov 6th.=

> Please send your comments to the TEAS mailin=
g list.
> 
> Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed=
 this document and
> believe it is ready for publication", a=
re welcome!
> This is useful and important, even from auth=
ors.
> 
> Thank you,
> Pavan and Lou.
> 
> ____________________________________________=
___
> Teas mailing list
> Teas at ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas=

 

 

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Folks, Hi!

Agenda:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meetin= g/100/materials/agenda-100-teas
Tuesday November 14th 2017, 09:= 30 - 12:00
Room: Canning

Please take a look and let us know if there are any = errors.=C2=A0 Also, if you intend to
present remotely, please let the chairs know - you can confirm that you are= listed as remote presenter at https://ietf100.conf.meetec= ho.com/list.php

Other logistics:

We will as always b= e using etherpad for collaborative note taking.
The etherpad link is
= http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-100-tea= s?useMonospaceFont=3Dtrue

Links to audio streams, meetecho =C2= =A0and jabber can be found at
https://tools.ietf.org/agenda/100/#100-tue-0930-teas=

Please note that WG Draft authors who aren't presenting sho= uld send status to the list prior to the WG meeting. Please send your statu= s update by Friday, Nov 10th. Status includes review of: any recent changes= , any open discussions or issues, and planned next steps.

For all dr= afts that have a slot in the agenda, we need the presentation-slides sent o= ut to us by Friday, Nov 10th.

Cheers,
Pavan and Lou.
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WG,

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Regards, Lei On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > This starts a two-week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 > > The working group last call ends on Nov 6th. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > Pavan and Lou. > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --94eb2c04370490811e055d1d558f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi WG,

I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publica= tion.

<= span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">Regards,
Lei

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupa= van@gmail.com> wrote:
All,<= br> This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03

The working group last call ends on Nov 6th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

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[174.99.107.252]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y125sm4375334ywf.86.2017.11.04.18.27.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Nov 2017 18:27:34 -0700 (PDT) To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Cc: TEAS WG Chairs , "teas@ietf.org" References: From: Yi Yang Message-ID: <17e6b3dc-b756-d109-6e2c-541bec804911@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 21:27:33 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FBDC5EE51593B25008C7BA45" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2017 01:27:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FBDC5EE51593B25008C7BA45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have reviewed the document and feel it's ready for publication. Yi On 11/3/17 8:30 PM, LEI LIU wrote: > Hi WG, > > I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication. > > Regards, > Lei > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram > > wrote: > > All, > This starts a two-week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03 > > The working group last call ends on Nov 6th. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > Pavan and Lou. > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas --------------FBDC5EE51593B25008C7BA45 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have reviewed the document and feel it's ready for publication.

Yi


On 11/3/17 8:30 PM, LEI LIU wrote:
Hi WG,

I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication.

Regards,
Lei

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03

The working group last call ends on Nov 6th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
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Tue, 07 Nov 2017 05:40:29 -0700 To: TEAS WG Cc: TEAS WG Chairs , draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec@ietf.org References: From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 07:40:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1eC3B7-000C6r-8Y X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:37672 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 12:40:36 -0000 All, The WG LC on this document closed on the 3rd. Authors please let the WG know when all LC comments have been addressed and if a new version of the document is needed before publication request is submitted. Thank you! Lou (Chair and Shepherd) On 10/20/2017 10:53 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > All, > > This starts a *two* week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01. 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Authors, Please republish draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 as draft-ietf-teas-actn-yang-00 with only the date and file name changed (you can publish this on Nov 13th). Thanks, - Pavan and Lou. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends Nov 6th. > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > --089e0820c43807349f055d8f8b30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The WG poll is closed.

Authors,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Please republish draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 as draft-ietf-= teas-actn-yang-00 with only the date and file name changed (you can publish= this on Nov 13th).

Thanks,
- Pa= van and Lou.

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram &l= t;vishnupavan@gm= ail.com> wrote:
All,

This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-zhang-teas-actn-yang-05 a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Nov 6th.

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou

--089e0820c43807349f055d8f8b30-- From nobody Thu Nov 9 08:51:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD9C127866; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 08:51:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7C6wMEcyxUja; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 08:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pf0-x231.google.com (mail-pf0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FD2A12025C; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 08:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pf0-x231.google.com with SMTP id 17so4640895pfn.12; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 08:51:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yItH/HaOB5OeocGee+77FCJz4puclGzI+tlfoJGar2s=; b=Us2HQ9UWfF80OENA4JLg45J7VRDPxPoIF4AgoA3fA+QcudRy6G0ZHlWiCAP0hTVH0C MS/7lAyOJfhUrEwoKSdTaV1qMFbF6c6xvvZX3pfsZH09vceShoTFliTjuj7ludgSQmT5 5CJoYtEKU04uVEsq6nq7GRRdRjooo8Q7ESAM0YsbTc1qI+8Yw1Ov4Lm6rCwteyImKCQY k0xc9EqzdM3BhoEbIUgpTA9CAzgORI+4vo3Hc9bl0WOS2ejCF3Z4zbG+g94M9BIoFi9u +I5JgIUhaf0bIm29Gut7q2sg46TvG6VyokWWa5c6NoWo33geZhUeAj+mr1DoUn7gOn5I yELw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yItH/HaOB5OeocGee+77FCJz4puclGzI+tlfoJGar2s=; b=cPbO3hLMdfd5fmAuD14YSRfLDtRwscrxDxOHjC/n2rMK0IEmL8Z31vvGrIeWAp6sLE UCKfDCa5oLpxEpMK9t4r/NN7A9WdzpeJfWAqhiT7Dx6qAAYDHVPIX02HYZtn/waVMr0C HGxn+EmrKTPlvl4hFQsmRwD2TubTqgXmOSwBjWBfDxSm411n50EbInYohxfuBuWx+MqO Km84sCF2ELMdNnondglFXE+1RIxczOxUXJb5joI6j/DBti0dEDtDdGfz1JgG8weiWFZf FK5nU774w4JOXjTaxMwNMCrcdDjb1w7swonA7EbSLpZ2QJe8c4BUi995C3fIsvSXhG73 JRRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX5stkpofjEr0v/gxAhz3Sf22YCc25GEEG4jzeLIcbtVA+rHvL/o zJRj5fbU7yqMb2MCH1QLk1ErQLXu4WjXLluad9d3SQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SdMVbZiXPmM7aAyoUGeEt5LI9nsN0VmyGknQLY4its0h4WVwjf1R1FVib4E/67FdGDar54Gyv1aopE9rQgEYQ= X-Received: by 10.99.151.66 with SMTP id d2mr1037834pgo.178.1510246259442; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 08:50:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.145.8 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Nov 2017 08:50:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 11:50:58 -0500 Message-ID: To: "teas@ietf.org" Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403043e9eccd14992055d8f9b19" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 16:51:30 -0000 --f403043e9eccd14992055d8f9b19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" All, The WG poll is closed. Authors, Please republish draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 as draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-00 with only the date and file name changed (you can publish this on Nov 13th). Also, please do discuss the comments raised during the adoption poll on the list and have them addressed in the -01 version of the WG draft. Thanks, - Pavan and Lou. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends Nov 7th. > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > --f403043e9eccd14992055d8f9b19 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The WG poll is closed.

Authors,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Please republish draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computatio= n-03 as draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-00 with only the date an= d file name changed=20 (you can publish this on Nov 13th). Also, please do discuss the comments ra= ised during the adoption poll on the list and have them addressed in the -0= 1 version of the WG draft.

Thanks,
- Pavan and Lou.

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupa= van@gmail.com> wrote:
All,<= br>
This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation-03 a TEAS working group docum= ent.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Nov 7th.

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou

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This WG LC is cl= osed. There were no issues/concerns raised during the LC.

We'll trigger the next step in the process.

Regards,
<= /div>-Pavan and Lou.

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnup= avan@gmail.com> wrote:
All,=
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-03

The working group last call ends on Nov 6th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

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Cheers Matt > All, >=20 > The draft agenda is now up at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/agenda-100-teas/. > Please let me know if there's anything needs changing. >=20 > If you're presenting, please send slides to me and the Chairs by the end > of next Friday (November 10) so that we can get them posted in good time > for people to have an advance look at them if they want. >=20 > If you have a WG draft that isn't being presented, please send an update > on current status to the list by the same date. >=20 > Thanks in advance! >=20 > Matt/Lou/Pavan From nobody Fri Nov 10 12:37:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BDD129481; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:37:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YjO1eb9JhADd; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:37:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B37EC126CB6; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO LHREML712-CAH.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DSI48325; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:37:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([10.201.109.59]) by LHREML712-CAH.china.huawei.com ([10.201.108.35]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:37:42 +0000 From: Italo Busi To: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" , "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" CC: "teas-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Teas] Status update on draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation (was Slides and updates for Singapore) Thread-Index: AQHTWl6Rrxko+1v5JEaj7UmuJ8HRrqMODqYw Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:37:42 +0000 Message-ID: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B157D4915@lhreml504-mbs> References: <84b3709ae3844a3c88dc01873e61faa4@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> <77712fb5740d49e58f8ceadc4faeefd3@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <77712fb5740d49e58f8ceadc4faeefd3@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.212.247.38] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B157D4915lhreml504mbs_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020202.5A060E1C.0070, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 3ebe5285a1d174364c6f795aec69ee9a Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Status update on draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation (was Slides and updates for Singapore) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:37:55 -0000 --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B157D4915lhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Matt, TEAS WG, Please find below a status update for draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation= (was draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation) Status Just adopted as TEAS WG document (was draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-co= mputation): draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-00 to be uploaded on Mond= ay November 13 Next Steps Address comments received during TEAS WG adoption poll Address current open issues in GitHub: (https://github.com/rvilalt= a/ietf-te-path-computation) Align with the latest version of the TE Tunnel model Sergio and Italo -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hartley (mhartley) [mailto:mhartley@cisco.com] Sent: venerd=EC 10 novembre 2017 17:05 To: TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org) Cc: teas-chairs@ietf.org; Matt Hartley (mhartley) Subject: Re: [Teas] Slides and updates for Singapore Reminder... please send slides! Cheers Matt > All, > > The draft agenda is now up at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/agenda-100-teas/. > Please let me know if there's anything needs changing. > > If you're presenting, please send slides to me and the Chairs by the > end of next Friday (November 10) so that we can get them posted in > good time for people to have an advance look at them if they want. > > If you have a WG draft that isn't being presented, please send an > update on current status to the list by the same date. > > Thanks in advance! > > Matt/Lou/Pavan --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B157D4915lhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Matt, TEAS WG,
 
Please find below a status update for draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-comput= ation (was draft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation)
 
Status
 
Just adopted as TEAS WG document (was dra= ft-busibel-teas-yang-path-computation): draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computati= on-00 to be uploaded on Monday November 13
 
Next Steps
 
      &nb= sp; Address comments received during TEAS WG adopti= on poll
 
      &nb= sp; Address current open issues in GitHub:   (<= a href=3D"https://github.com/rvilalta/ietf-te-path-computation">https://github.com/rvilalta/ietf-te-path-co= mputation)
 
      &nb= sp; Align with the latest version of the TE Tunnel = model
 
Sergio and Italo
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Hartley (mhartley) [mailto= :mhartley@cisco.com]
Sent: venerd=EC 10 novembre 2017 17:05
To: TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)
Cc: teas-chairs@ietf.org; Matt Hartley (mhartley)
Subject: Re: [Teas] Slides and updates for Singapore
 
Reminder... please send slides!
 
Cheers
 
Matt
 
> All,
>
> The draft agenda is now up at
> Please let me know if there's anything needs changing.
>
> If you're presenting, please send slides to me and the Chairs by = the
> end of next Friday (November 10) so that we can get them posted i= n
> good time for people to have an advance look at them if they want= .
>
> If you have a WG draft that isn't being presented, please send an=
> update on current status to the list by the same date.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Matt/Lou/Pavan
 
 
 
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(envelope-from ) id 1eDM7v-000Apr-AK; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:06:35 -0700 To: draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-te@ietf.org, draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp@ietf.org, draft-ietf-teas-yang-te@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org References: <150932270746.3426.3220773532456344196@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <8de1c9eb-133a-14ea-f323-ef5502a12f07@labn.net> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 23:29:07 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <150932270746.3426.3220773532456344196@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1eDM7v-000Apr-AK X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:42640 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 8 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] inclusion of references in protocol feature configuration configuration X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 03:06:49 -0000 Hi, In reviewing the the yang-te, rsvp and rsvp=te modules I noticed that references aren't included in most config groupings/nodes. Given the number of RFCs used to define the mechanisms covered by these modules I think it's important to include a reference to the RFC that defines the feature/information element covered in the model. I suspect this comments is also applicable to other modules. Thanks, Lou From nobody Fri Nov 10 21:14:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4928C126C23; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 21:14:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.878 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.878 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WK9JKSm6HSdB; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 21:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DC411200C1; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 21:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-9e6d.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-9e6d.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.158.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id vAB5EP2S005160 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 10 Nov 2017 23:14:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) To: Dieter Beller , The IESG Cc: draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net, teas-chairs@ietf.org, teas@ietf.org References: <150407177904.21566.4554462507948409747.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4553228a-eb70-6b26-ed6c-e2cecfd0f55b@nokia.com> From: Adam Roach Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 13:14:25 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4553228a-eb70-6b26-ed6c-e2cecfd0f55b@nokia.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------771CD52FF3648868D448A5DD" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 05:14:32 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------771CD52FF3648868D448A5DD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks! These all look good to me. /a On 11/2/17 21:01, Dieter Beller wrote: > Hi Adam, > > my apologies for the late response - it was difficult for me finding > time in the last weeks to address the IESG review comments. > > Please find inline below how we suggest to address your comments. > > Could you please let us know whether your comments are adequately > addressed. > > > Thanks, > Dieter and co-authors > > > On 30.08.2017 07:42, Adam Roach wrote: >> Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection >> >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this >> introductory paragraph, however.) >> >> >> Please refer tohttps://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >> >> >> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity/ >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> COMMENT: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> The Abstract should stand on its own; and, as such, needs to expand the "XRO" >> and "EXRS" acronyms (similar to the Introduction). > > Changed as suggested: > > This document specifies two new diversity subobjects for the RSVP > eXclude Route Object (XRO) and the Explicit Exclusion Route Subobject > (EXRS). > > >> For completeness, the definition of the "E" flag in section 2.1 probably needs >> to indicate that bit 0x08 is reserved, and MUST be set to 0 send, ignored on >> receipt. > > Changed as suggested: > > 0x08 = reserved > > This flag is reserved. It MUST be set to zero on transmission, and > MUST be ignored on receipt for both IPv4/IPv6 Diversity XRO subobjects. > > > >> In section 3.2, on page 19, concerning the following text: >> >> If, subsequent to the initial signaling of a diverse LSP, the >> requested exclusion constraints for the diverse LSP are no longer >> satisfied and an alternative path for the diverse LSP that can >> satisfy those constraints exists, then: >> >> The phrasing "no longer satisfied" seems a bit incomplete, as (by my >> understanding) the constraints might not have been satisfied in the first >> place, if the L-bit was set in the initial request. I presume that, if this >> were to happen, you'd want to signal when a compliant path became available -- >> but the current text doesn't indicate that this is okay. Perhaps something >> like: "...are no longer satisfied (or, in the case that the initial request >> triggered a "Failed to satisfy Exclude Route" error subcode, remain >> unsatisfied), and an alternative path for..." >> > Here is the re-phrased text: > > If, subsequent to the initial signaling of a diverse LSP, an > excluded path referenced in the XRO subobject becomes known to > the processing node, or a change in the excluded path becomes > known to the processing node, the processing node MUST re- > evaluate the exclusion and diversity constraints requested by the > diverse LSP to determine whether they are still satisfied. > > -   In case the L-flag was not set in the initial setup message, >    the exclusion and diversity constraints were satisfied at the >    time of the initial setup. If the processing node re-evaluating >    the exclusion and diversity constraints for a diverse LSP >    detects that the exclusion and diversity constraints are no >    longer met, it MUST send a PathErr message for the diverse LSP >    with the error code "Routing Problem" (24) and error sub-code >    "Route blocked by Exclude Route" (67). The Path_State_Removed >    flag (PSR) [RFC3473] MUST NOT be set. A source node receiving a >    PathErr message with this error code and sub-code combination >    SHOULD take appropriate actions and move the diverse LSP to a >    new path that meets the original constraints. > > -   In case the L-flag was set in the initial setup message, the >    exclusion and diversity constraints may or may not be satisfied >    at any given time. If the exclusion constraints for a diverse >    LSP were satisfied before and if the processing node re- >    evaluating the exclusion and diversity constraints for a >    diverse LSP detects that exclusion and diversity constraints >    are no longer met, it MUST send a PathErr message for the >    diverse LSP with the error code error code "Notify Error" (25) >    and error sub-code TBA5 "Failed to satisfy Exclude Route" >    (value: to be assigned by IANA). The PSR flag MUST NOT be set. >    The source node MAY take no consequent action and keep the LSP >    along the path that does not meet the original constraints. >    Similarly, if the exclusion constraints for a diverse LSP were >    not satisfied before and if the processing node re-evaluating >    the exclusion and diversity constraints for a diverse LSP >    detects that the exclusion constraints are met, it MUST send a >    PathErr message for the diverse LSP with the error code "Notify >    Error" (25) and a new error sub- code TBA6 "Compliant path >    exists" (value: to be assigned by IANA). The PSR flag MUST NOT >    be set. A source node receiving a PathErr message with this >    error code and sub-code combination MAY move the diverse LSP to >    a new path that meets the original constraints. > > --------------771CD52FF3648868D448A5DD Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Thanks! These all look good to me.

/a

On 11/2/17 21:01, Dieter Beller wrote:
Hi Adam,

my apologies for the late response - it was difficult for me finding time in the last weeks to address the IESG review comments.

Please find inline below how we suggest to address your comments.

Could you please let us know whether your comments are adequately addressed.


Thanks,
Dieter and co-authors

On 30.08.2017 07:42, Adam Roach wrote:
Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08: No Objection

When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
introductory paragraph, however.)


Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.


The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity/



----------------------------------------------------------------------
COMMENT:
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The Abstract should stand on its own; and, as such, needs to expand the "XRO"
and "EXRS" acronyms (similar to the Introduction).

Changed as suggested:

This document specifies two new diversity subobjects for the RSVP eXclude Route Object (XRO) and the Explicit Exclusion Route Subobject (EXRS).


For completeness, the definition of the "E" flag in section 2.1 probably needs
to indicate that bit 0x08 is reserved, and MUST be set to 0 send, ignored on
receipt.

Changed as suggested:

0x08 = reserved

 

This flag is reserved. It MUST be set to zero on transmission, and MUST be ignored on receipt for both IPv4/IPv6 Diversity XRO subobjects.



In section 3.2, on page 19, concerning the following text:

      If, subsequent to the initial signaling of a diverse LSP, the
      requested exclusion constraints for the diverse LSP are no longer
      satisfied and an alternative path for the diverse LSP that can
      satisfy those constraints exists, then:

The phrasing "no longer satisfied" seems a bit incomplete, as (by my
understanding) the constraints might not have been satisfied in the first
place, if the L-bit was set in the initial request. I presume that, if this
were to happen, you'd want to signal when a compliant path became available --
but the current text doesn't indicate that this is okay. Perhaps something
like: "...are no longer satisfied (or, in the case that the initial request
triggered a "Failed to satisfy Exclude Route" error subcode, remain
unsatisfied), and an alternative path for..."
Here is the re-phrased text:

If, subsequent to the initial signaling of a diverse LSP, an
excluded path referenced in the XRO subobject becomes known to
the processing node, or a change in the excluded path becomes
known to the processing node, the processing node MUST re-
evaluate the exclusion and diversity constraints requested by the
diverse LSP to determine whether they are still satisfied.

-   In case the L-flag was not set in the initial setup message,
   the exclusion and diversity constraints were satisfied at the
   time of the initial setup. If the processing node re-evaluating
   the exclusion and diversity constraints for a diverse LSP
   detects that the exclusion and diversity constraints are no
   longer met, it MUST send a PathErr message for the diverse LSP
   with the error code "Routing Problem" (24) and error sub-code
   "Route blocked by Exclude Route" (67). The Path_State_Removed
   flag (PSR) [RFC3473] MUST NOT be set. A source node receiving a
   PathErr message with this error code and sub-code combination
   SHOULD take appropriate actions and move the diverse LSP to a
   new path that meets the original constraints.

-   In case the L-flag was set in the initial setup message, the
   exclusion and diversity constraints may or may not be satisfied
   at any given time. If the exclusion constraints for a diverse
   LSP were satisfied before and if the processing node re-
   evaluating the exclusion and diversity constraints for a
   diverse LSP detects that exclusion and diversity constraints
   are no longer met, it MUST send a PathErr message for the
   diverse LSP with the error code error code "Notify Error" (25)
   and error sub-code TBA5 "Failed to satisfy Exclude Route"
   (value: to be assigned by IANA). The PSR flag MUST NOT be set.
   The source node MAY take no consequent action and keep the LSP
   along the path that does not meet the original constraints.
   Similarly, if the exclusion constraints for a diverse LSP were
   not satisfied before and if the processing node re-evaluating
   the exclusion and diversity constraints for a diverse LSP
   detects that the exclusion constraints are met, it MUST send a
   PathErr message for the diverse LSP with the error code "Notify
   Error" (25) and a new error sub- code TBA6 "Compliant path
   exists" (value: to be assigned by IANA). The PSR flag MUST NOT
   be set. A source node receiving a PathErr message with this
   error code and sub-code combination MAY move the diverse LSP to
   a new path that meets the original constraints.



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This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Applicability of YANG models for Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks Authors : Young Lee Haomian Zheng Bin Yeong Yoon Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Jong Yoon Shin Sergio Belotti Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-yang-00.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2017-11-11 Abstract: Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) refers to the set of virtual network operations needed to orchestrate, control and manage large-scale multi-domain TE networks, so as to facilitate network programmability, automation, efficient resource sharing, and end-to- end virtual service aware connectivity and network function virtualization services. This document explains how the different types of YANG models defined in the Operations and Management Area and in the Routing Area are applicable to the ACTN framework. This document also shows how the ACTN architecture can be satisfied using classes of data model that have already been defined, and discusses the applicability of specific data models that are under development. It also highlights where new data models may need to be developed. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-yang/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-yang-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-yang-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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We posted a new revision (-09) to address the comments below. Please go through the diffs ( https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-09.txt) and let us know if the changes adequately address the comments. Please see inline for more responses (prefixed VPB) Regards, -Pavan (on behalf of the authors) On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:27 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > Hi, > > I've reviewed this draft and after discussing with your Chairs a bit on > it, I have the following comments: > > - I think you need to create an IANA registry for this label if you want > to ensure it does not get used in an implementation. For example, MPLS has > registries for "special purpose label values". While this is only one > value, I suggest a similar top-level registry, with an entry for this draft. > [VPB] Added an IANA request for a new subregistry (Please see Section 6). > - the draft refers to an implementation survey as justifying there are no > backward compatibility concerns with the choice of this label. But there > was no implementation survey. I think today's RFC3473 procedures will have > an upstream node rejecting this label if returned to it and no data traffic > will be transmitted. So this should prevent any harm. I recommend being > more concise in the backward compatibility section on the processing. > [VPB] Removed the "ambiguous" text in the "Backwards Compatibility" section (Please see Sections 2.1 [second paragraph] and 2.2). > - Currently the draft updates RFC3473. I think it also updates RFC3471 and > RFC6205 (especially as the example in the draft is WSON and this draft > requires a modification of RFC6205 procedures). And you need to clearly > identify what it is that you are updating in this document vs. the previous > documents. > [VPB] Updated the "Updates" attribute and added relevant supporting text (Please see Abstract and Section 1 [second paragraph]). > > - The draft is a bit too short:-) You need to have proper sections on > Procedures and Label Format. The current Processing section is not > sufficient. There's more in the use case, than in the Processing section. > [VPB] Added a figure for the "Label format". Added some text clarifying the scope of the procedures -- it now explicitly states that the scope is limited to the exchange and processing of messages between an upstream node and its immediate downstream node. Added more details to the error-processing procedures. The draft may still appear to a bit short on text -- but it is just the nature of the change being proposed (the only thing that is being proposed here is a new value for the existing UPSTREAM_LABEL object). > - Considering the changes for the above, I recommend for your Chairs to > have a short (1 week) WG Last Call on the updated draft. If can do SOON > (Adrian's definition:-)), I'll leave it as "AD Evaluation", if drags out, > I'll send it back to the WG. > > Thanks, > Deborah > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --001a1147676a189dc8055dcf4e29 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Deborah, Hi!

We posted a new r= evision (-09) to address the comments below. Please go through the diffs (<= a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-network-ass= igned-upstream-label-09.txt">https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ie= tf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-09.txt) and let us know if the = changes adequately address the comments.

Pleas= e see inline for more responses (prefixed VPB)

Regards,=
-Pavan (on behalf of the authors)

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6= :27 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <db3546@att.com> wrote:
Hi,

I've reviewed this draft and after discussing with your Chairs a bit on= it, I have the following comments:

- I think you need to create an IANA registry for this label if you want to= ensure it does not get used in an implementation. For example, MPLS has re= gistries for "special purpose label values". While this is only o= ne value, I suggest a similar top-level registry, with an entry for this dr= aft.

[VPB] Added an IANA request for a = new subregistry (Please see Section 6).


- the draft refers to an implementation survey as justifying there are no b= ackward compatibility concerns with the choice of this label. But there was= no implementation survey. I think today's RFC3473 procedures will have= an upstream node rejecting this label if returned to it and no data traffi= c will be transmitted. So this should prevent any harm. I recommend being m= ore concise in the backward compatibility section on the processing.

[VPB] Removed the "ambiguous" text = in the "Backwards Compatibility" section (Please see Sections 2.1= [second paragraph] and 2.2).


- Currently the draft updates RFC3473. I think it also updates RFC3471 and = RFC6205 (especially as the example in the draft is WSON and this draft requ= ires a modification of RFC6205 procedures). And you need to clearly identif= y what it is that you are updating in this document vs. the previous docume= nts.

[VPB] Updated the "Updates&qu= ot; attribute and added relevant supporting text (Please see Abstract and S= ection 1 [second paragraph]).
=C2=A0

- The draft is a bit too short:-) You need to have proper sections on Proce= dures and Label Format. The current Processing section is not sufficient. T= here's more in the use case, than in the Processing section.

[VPB] Added a figure for the "Label format&q= uot;. Added some text clarifying the scope of = the procedures -- it now explicitly states that the scope is limited to the= exchange and processing of messages be= tween an upstream node and its immediate downstream node. Added more details to the error-processing procedures. T= he draft may still appear to a bit short on text -- but it is just the natu= re of the change being proposed (the only thing that is being proposed here= is a new value for the existing UPSTREAM_LABEL object).


- Considering the changes for the above, I recommend for your Chairs to hav= e a short (1 week) WG Last Call on the updated draft. If can do SOON (Adria= n's definition:-)), I'll leave it as "AD Evaluation", if = drags out, I'll send it back to the WG.

Thanks,
Deborah


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--001a1147676a189dc8055dcf4e29-- From nobody Sun Nov 12 13:57:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB82120725; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 13:57:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o2N33mwfhDYX; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 13:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pg0-x229.google.com (mail-pg0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64D9F126BF0; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 13:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pg0-x229.google.com with SMTP id 207so8465688pgc.12; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 13:57:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hfVeGEAqncyfHNcLn6zSZOr7qp5mGHQCoBeDzq4kh5g=; b=EIudZsJcP0dPsW2lZ1ZBFNelQM8UY851mtN42hDFCI3DIXDrHrprrvxF3EvvO1UdPR 1ohPiDi+L3b9OGVL3RXNe5XBKT+zNpWR7dCxihuIq5LaNXbBr1lfUcDja0F3mE+3Lkyj 7Es0A3rMJjzL4p3HLBuYFwzCnpN5AahxmWMrSVsWDWnP5RH2Gz7dd8veqj5WUQb4oWzq PtGsUkqSuWM4jXxQjRcwqUABZh6EG9AkGH5jY2AiY7q2EeXguTTkef+uDF1xMc1qLyyn k+9W1+lT4pebqbcGXIqtqL75NiAL3jd8OAdZc4lev6jKbinq8yRdZkWc8vcnZa+kcrSc F5Yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hfVeGEAqncyfHNcLn6zSZOr7qp5mGHQCoBeDzq4kh5g=; b=tzPdfrOK/YIR+8jaTmY5K6CqDWRJ8kRe2s6a1LUFoDwJH4JrMpo+SFrzdP5IWEVWid CqRvqSKQ/0fVbgwZWN7xm2a76asX+6GuxDmkHdtU8LxN5skuv3q/rRUPaDp5AqkDhVKq m4vadQ8eg5yd8qaw7ieZ2xRjU5NXuHygWBq+BO4irPW4dlSJhn1P+d18ob78+k+KdBMZ T0ugz+2PGSsI377HonDWiVMmKsDAhOmrUYTUvT4QGE4mG0SLpZC9NnAx2N7DqPTeWsrA 5GqmW2vC3q6Dp6ySfj2njgFG7a2Tz419ob6OmcGDkBLYeNZAH2T8rpucG41KxUnXXNLl aCjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX7RPu6qCl55so/EFJtIEVV4SXUfLylnIO+1cIhL331cfxX/h895 qu8hCed0tBTWo5mdgy/F9GCn7ud8lhCpjlSDFJQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMYqWlUgrpDs5z0WoVEQdWnLrwLuw/edB1XZexMbjth2pGaymNR7aibAgjeF0JPYKvfjC6EvPC0kXTns8NgNF54= X-Received: by 10.98.17.7 with SMTP id z7mr7731928pfi.206.1510523871753; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 13:57:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.171.15 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 13:57:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <150644890311.20830.6212136664552694640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 16:57:51 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" Cc: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec@ietf.org, TEAS WG Chairs , The IESG , "teas@ietf.org" , Lou Berger Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1145adccccf9b8055dd03ec6" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_Discuss_on_draft-ietf-?= =?utf-8?q?teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06=3A_=28with_DISCUSS_and_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 21:57:55 -0000 --001a1145adccccf9b8055dd03ec6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mirja, Hi! Apologize for the delayed reply. Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB). Regards, -Pavan On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) < ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote: > Hi Vishnu, > > I don=E2=80=99t think what you proposed is a clarification at all. RF2961= clearly > reads to me that you should not retry any more after the Rapid retry limi= t > has been reached: > > "Rl is the maximum number of times a message will be > transmitted without being acknowledged.=E2=80=9C > [VPB] Yes. As per RFC2961, the retry limit (Rl) is the maximum number of times a message will be transmitted without being acknowledged. But this just governs the number of times you retransmit the message during the "rapid retransmission phase". RFC2961 is silent about what happens after the "rapid retransmission phase" is complete and this is the clarification that is being provided here in the draft. Note that the associated RSVP Path/Resv state doesn't get cleaned up after the "rapid retransmission" phase is complete. So at each subsequent refresh-interval, the unacked Path/Resv message will be sent out again (note that if there is no change in the state, the same MESSAGE_ID would get used). This behavior has always existed in RSVP-TE implementations -- so it is incorrect to deduce from the "RFC 2961" text above that the retransmission of the unacked Path/Resv will never happen after the "Rl" is reached. > Also RFC2961 suggests an initial Rf of 500ms with 7 retries and and delta > of 2, that means you will see the following retries: > > 1. after 500ms > 2. after 1000ms > 3. after 2000ms > 4. after 4000ms > 5. after 8000ms > 6. after 16000ms > 7. after 32000ms > > and then give up. While you suggests to send all 300ms section afterwards > forever. That is not acceptable and can lead to congestion. > No, that is not what is being suggested. RFC2961 suggests an Rf of 500ms with 3 retries and a delta of 2. So the rapid retransmissions would be: 1. after 500ms 2. after 1000ms 3. after 2000ms. With the proposal in the draft, you would try 7 times and then stop the "rapid retransmission phase". So, what that means is that the rapid retransmission phase lasts 31.5 seconds (first retry is after 500ms and the seventh retry is after 32000ms). After this "rapid retransmission phase" is complete, you keep sending the message out every 30000ms (30seconds is not 300ms) until an acknowledgement is received. Hope this helps. > Mirja > > > > > > Am 05.10.2017 um 22:27 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram < > vishnupavan@gmail.com>: > > > > Mirja, Hi! > > > > This was discussed in my response to Elwyn. I apologize for not > responding directly. > > > > RFC2961 doesn't discuss what to do with the retransmissions after the > retry limit is reached. It doesn't discuss how retransmissions need to be > paced after the rapid retries are stopped. Section 2.3 (ver 7) of the > current draft clarifies this and proposes the use of a "not so rapid > (30secs)" retransmission interval. > > > > There were a couple of questions from this section that you wanted to > get discussed: > > ---- > > (1) Why is there no termination criteria specified? > > There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting transmitted > indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling behavior). All that is > being discussed in this section is how these transmissions get paced afte= r > the rapid retry limit is reached. The slower timer transmission will go o= n > until either an ack is received (at which point the regular "refresh > interval" comes into play) or the corresponding LSP instance state is tor= n > down. > > > > ---- > > (2) Why couldn't the regular refresh interval be used for these un-acke= d > retransmissions? > > The primary goal of the retransmission is to eke out an acknowledgement > from the neighbor as quickly as you can. You can use the same value as th= e > the regular refresh interval provided it is small enough (like in the cas= e > of the conventional refresh interval of 30 secs) . However, we are > recommending the use of a "large refresh interval" (20 mins) in the RI-RS= VP > technique -- we can't wait that long for retrying the transmission of an > unacked message. > > > > Consider a rudimentary state machine with the following states (assumin= g > the defaults suggested in the Appendix of the draft): > > - first retransmit (exponential back off) > > - second retransmit (exponential back off) > > ... > > - seventh retransmit (exponential back off) > > - 30s retransmission > > - 20m refresh (regular refresh timer) > > > > At any point when the Ack is received, you transition to the 20m refres= h > state. > > > > --- > > > > Do these two responses adequately answer your questions? > > > > Regards, > > -Pavan > > > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) < > ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote: > > Hi Pavan, > > > > I don=E2=80=99t see any changes in the new version that addresses may a= ctual > discuss on section 2.1.3 (now section 2.3). Can you please clarify? > > > > Thanks, > > Mirja > > > > > > > Am 28.09.2017 um 05:45 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram < > vishnupavan@gmail.com>: > > > > > > Mirja, Hi! > > > > > > Thanks for the review. We just posted a new revision (-07) to address > the Gen-Art review comments. Please go through the new diffs ( > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-0= 7) > and let us know if additional changes are required. > > > > > > Also, please go through the responses provided to the other review > comments and let us know if there are still any unanswered questions. > > > > > > Regards, > > > -Pavan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind > wrote: > > > Mirja K=C3=BChlewind has entered the following ballot position for > > > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06: Discuss > > > > > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut th= is > > > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > > > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/stat > ement/discuss-criteria.html > > > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > > > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > DISCUSS: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > > > I'm uncertain what section 2.1.3. actually recommends. My > understanding is that > > > it is recommend to still send retransmit some message even if the Rl > was > > > reached and to that every 30s basically forever. First of all I think > this > > > still needs a termination criteria when to stop to try to retransmit > finally. > > > And the I don't understand why this is needed, instead of e.g. just > using a > > > larger Rl value? Can you please clarify! > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > COMMENT: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > > > I fully agree with the gan-art review (Thanks Elwyn!) and Alvaro, tha= t > this > > > reads from time to time like a BCP but is actually a extension > specification. I > > > would strongly recommend to apply the changes proposed by the gen-art > review, > > > and there is also a very detailed list of nits/edits that should > probably be > > > applied. Please have a look at that! > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Teas mailing list > > > Teas@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > > > > > > --001a1145adccccf9b8055dd03ec6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mirja, Hi!

Apologize for the d= elayed reply.
Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB).
=
Regards,
-Pavan

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 6:25 AM, M= irja Kuehlewind (IETF) <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
Hi Vishnu,

I don=E2=80=99t think what you proposed is a clarification at all. RF2961 c= learly reads to me that you should not retry any more after the Rapid retry= limit has been reached:

"Rl is the maximum number of times a message will be
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0transmitted without being acknowle= dged.=E2=80=9C

[VPB] Yes. As per RFC296= 1, the retry limit (Rl) is the maximum number of=20 times a message will be transmitted without being acknowledged. But this=20 just governs the number of times you retransmit the message during the &quo= t;rapid=20 retransmission phase". RFC2961 is silent about what happens after the= =20 "rapid retransmission phase" is complete and this is the clarific= ation=20 that is being provided here in the <scaling-rec> draft. Note that=20 the associated RSVP Path/Resv state doesn't get cleaned up after the=20 "rapid retransmission" phase is complete. So at each subsequent= =20 refresh-interval, the unacked Path/Resv message will be sent out again=20 (note that if there is no change in the state, the same MESSAGE_ID=20 would get used). This behavior has always existed in RSVP-TE=20 implementations -- so it is incorrect to deduce from the "RFC 2961&quo= t; text above that the retransmission of=20 the unacked Path/Resv will never happen after the "Rl" is reached= .


Also RFC2961 suggests an initial Rf of 500ms with 7 retries and and delta o= f 2, that means you will see the following retries:

1. after 500ms
2. after 1000ms
3. after 2000ms
4. after 4000ms
5. after 8000ms
6. after 16000ms
7. after 32000ms

and then give up. While you suggests to send all 300ms section afterwards f= orever. That is not acceptable and can lead to congestion.
=

No, that is not what is being suggested.
RFC2961 suggests an Rf of 500ms with 3 retries and a delta of 2. So the ra= pid retransmissions would be:
1. after 500ms
2. after 1= 000ms
3. after 2000ms.

With the proposal= in the <scaling-rec> draft, you would try 7 times and then stop the = "rapid retransmission phase". So, what that means is that the rap= id retransmission phase lasts 31.5 seconds (first retry is after 500ms and = the seventh retry is after 32000ms). After this "rapid retransmission = phase" is complete, you keep sending the message out every 30000ms (30= seconds is not 300ms) until an acknowledgement is received.
=
Hope this helps.


=
Mirja




> Am 05.10.2017 um 22:27 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>:<= br> >
> Mirja, Hi!
>
> This was discussed in my response to Elwyn. I apologize for not respon= ding directly.
>
> RFC2961 doesn't discuss what to do with the retransmissions after = the retry limit is reached. It doesn't discuss how retransmissions need= to be paced after the rapid retries are stopped. Section 2.3 (ver 7) of th= e current draft clarifies this and proposes the use of a "not so rapid= (30secs)" retransmission interval.
>
> There were a couple of questions from this section that you wanted to = get discussed:
> ----
> (1) Why is there no termination criteria specified?
> There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting transmitted = indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling behavior). All that is be= ing discussed in this section is how these transmissions get paced after th= e rapid retry limit is reached. The slower timer transmission will go on un= til either an ack is received (at which point the regular "refresh int= erval" comes into play) or the corresponding LSP instance state is tor= n down.
>
> ----
> (2) Why couldn't the regular refresh interval be used for these un= -acked retransmissions?
> The primary goal of the retransmission is to eke out an acknowledgemen= t from the neighbor as quickly as you can. You can use the same value as th= e the regular refresh interval provided it is small enough (like in the cas= e of the conventional refresh interval of 30 secs) . However, we are recomm= ending the use of a "large refresh interval" (20 mins) in the RI-= RSVP technique -- we can't wait that long for retrying the transmission= of an unacked message.
>
> Consider a rudimentary state machine with the following states (assumi= ng the defaults suggested in the Appendix of the draft):
> - first retransmit (exponential back off)
> - second retransmit (exponential back off)
> ...
> - seventh retransmit (exponential back off)
> - 30s retransmission
> - 20m refresh (regular refresh timer)
>
> At any point when the Ack is received, you transition to the 20m refre= sh state.
>
> ---
>
> Do these two responses adequately answer your questions?
>
> Regards,
> -Pavan
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <ietf@kuehlewind.net> = wrote:
> Hi Pavan,
>
> I don=E2=80=99t see any changes in the new version that addresses may = actual discuss on section 2.1.3 (now section 2.3). Can you please clarify?<= br> >
> Thanks,
> Mirja
>
>
> > Am 28.09.2017 um 05:45 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com&= gt;:
> >
> > Mirja, Hi!
> >
> > Thanks for the review. We just posted a new revision (-07) to add= ress the Gen-Art review comments. Please go through the new diffs (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-07) and let us know if= additional changes are required.
> >
> > Also, please go through the responses provided to the other revie= w comments and let us know if there are still any unanswered questions.
> >
> > Regards,
> > -Pavan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net&g= t; wrote:
> > Mirja K=C3=BChlewind has entered the following ballot position fo= r
> > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06: Discuss
> >
> > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to= all
> > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cu= t this
> > introductory paragraph, however.)
> >
> >
> > Please refer to https://www.ietf.= org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
> > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > >
> >
> > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found her= e:
> > https://datatracker.i= etf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec/
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
> > DISCUSS:
> > ------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
> >
> > I'm uncertain what section 2.1.3. actually recommends. My und= erstanding is that
> > it is recommend to still send retransmit some message even if the= Rl was
> > reached and to that every 30s basically forever. First of all I t= hink this
> > still needs a termination criteria when to stop to try to retrans= mit finally.
> > And the I don't understand why this is needed, instead of e.g= . just using a
> > larger Rl value? Can you please clarify!
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
> > COMMENT:
> > ------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
> >
> > I fully agree with the gan-art review (Thanks Elwyn!) and Alvaro,= that this
> > reads from time to time like a BCP but is actually a extension sp= ecification. I
> > would strongly recommend to apply the changes proposed by the gen= -art review,
> > and there is also a very detailed list of nits/edits that should = probably be
> > applied. Please have a look at that!
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Teas mailing list
> > Teas@ietf.org<= /a>
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas<= /a>
> >
>
>


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<2cdc53f9-11c4-40d7-c37c-09b747b763f6@labn.net> <9e10fcf0-b60d-8f36-ac6f-65242c86fb07@dial.pipex.com> From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 21:59:20 -0500 Message-ID: To: Elwyn Davies Cc: Lou Berger , Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "gen-art@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec.all@ietf.org" , "teas@ietf.org" , ietf Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045d24f60ab16f055dd475df" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:59:29 -0000 --f403045d24f60ab16f055dd475df Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Elwyn, Hi! Apologize for the delayed reply. We posted a new rev (-08) to address the comments that have been raised so far. Please do take a look at the diffs and see if your concerns are adequately addressed. Please see inline for responses (prefixed [VPB]) Regards, -Pavan Snipped.. >> >> >> I think you should therefore make it explicit that a prerequisite >> >> for your extensions is an implementation of the Capability object >> >> as specified in RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , making it clear >> >> that this does not require any of the other functionality of RFC >> >> 5063, especially no support for the S bit in the Capabilities. >> >> >> >> >> >> [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capability Object" needs a separate >> >> prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD take a >> >> call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using >> >> Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then >> >> need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate section for >> >> RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of >> >> certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and "Node Hellos", >> >> there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarified. >> > I think it would be useful to prospective implementors to have a very > short statement either at the end of s1 or as a new section to say that you > need to have the Capability Object implemented as this is not necessarily > in a basic RSVP implementation or RSVP-TE implementation. Since this > draft is about RSVP-TE deployments (RFC 3209) you get Node-Hellos > automatically (and the RFC 4558 clarification is mentioned) and doesn't > need to be called out explicitly. > [VPB] We added a statement in Section 1 to make this explicit. ** Snipped.. > > >> >> >> - Your response regarding what happens if a peer initially >> >> acknowledges that it supports the new capabilities by setting the >> >> I/F bits in the Capability and sends some messages with the >> >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit set, but then stops setting the >> >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't really address the problem. >> >> Would this mean that the receiver should assume that the peer can >> >> no longer support the extensions? >> >> >> >> >> >> [Pavan] Yes. >> >> >> >> Is this a permanent state or could the peer start setting the >> >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and restore initial >> >> functionality - or should this just not be allowed. >> >> >> >> >> >> [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionality. >> >> >> >> I think you need to think through what happes in the various >> >> possible cases and explain what an implementation should do in >> >> each case. >> > What seems to be missing is what should be done if either or both of the > two capabilities are active on the peer or some of its LSPs when the > Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit is cleared in a message (which I think could > be any message from the peer). If I understand correctly it is possible > that RI-RSVP might have to be switched off and depending on where the > RI-RSVP process had got to in terms of sending repeat PATH messages, it > might be necessary to revert to standard refreshing procedures from part > way through the revised procedure - I think you probably need to be clear > about what you would do in terms of where to enter the default refresh > procedure and whether this means the refresh interval should revert to a > lower value. I am not sure whether immediately unthrottling the flow > control would be desirable either! > > [VPB] Inactivation of "Refresh-Reduction" Capability will immediately inactivate both the "capabilities" discussed in the draft. This means that the implementation would immediately fall back on to traditional non-2961 RSVP procedures (and stop following the procedures outlined in sections 3 and 4). We added an explicit statement to the draft saying that "Inactivation of the RI-RSVP functionality MUST result in the use of the traditional smaller refresh interval". We believe implementations don't need any further guidance in order to cater to this "revert to traditional procedures" requirement. Note that implementations today already know how to handle "disabling/enabling" of the "Refresh-Reduction" capability knob (this includes disabling/enabling per-session flow control). They already know how to handle adjustments to "refresh-interval". > >> >> >> >> >> [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality >> >> enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the >> >> implementation does everything that is specified as required for the >> >> given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation doesn't >> >> employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'll try >> >> and add some text to make this obvious. >> >> >> >> >> >> - So, I have done my homework and checked back on what happens >> >> when there is no acknowledgement of refreshes. The relevant >> >> parameter is the cleanup time. However, this leaves us with a >> >> problem.. the cleanup time is typically set as a multiple of the >> >> refresh interval (9 times seems to be the default) - indeed I see >> >> that the interface configuration on a Juniper router (!) actually >> >> sets it by asking for the multiple rather than an absolute value. >> >> Wth the new dispensation in ths document, there are two time >> >> periods involved: I think you do need to respecify how to >> >> calculate a sensible cleanup interval, and note that the >> >> retransmissions will then halt after this interval. >> >> >> >> >> >> [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer >> >> (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP >> >> instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through >> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01 >> >> > ietf.org_html_draft-2Dravisingh-2Dteas-2Drsvp-2Dsetup- >> 2Dretry-2D01&d=DwMDaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-nd >> b3voDTXcWzoCI&r=CFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8& >> m=k7e-cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s= >> XXwwGPXiCQhVIgNDbiHxKEuHs1fkmMoiGQsHcQ33ZQE&e=> >> >> for a detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it >> >> and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3) >> >> that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from what you >> >> are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not just >> >> PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure >> >> discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid >> >> retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In Section >> >> 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry limit is >> >> reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid >> >> retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this needs >> >> to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding state >> >> is torn down. >> > No. I am not talking about the setup-retry timer. I was thinking about > the L value (the local state lifetime) as discussed in Section 3.7 of RFC > 2205. This is usually defined in terms of a multiple of the refresh timer > - s3 of the draft suggests that the refresh timer be configured to 20 > minutes making the L value at least an hour in the default case. This > would mean the slower refresh retries would go on for an hour which seems > excessive. I suspect you need to specify an alternative algorithm for > setting L. > [VPB] There is really no need to specify a new algorithm for setting L. It is understood that having a large refresh-interval will significantly increase the L value. With the procedures defined for "RI-RSVP", we have completely eliminated RSVP's reliance on refreshes and refresh-timeouts. A smaller "L" value is important only if you are relying on refresh-timeouts to clean up state. --f403045d24f60ab16f055dd475df Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Elwyn, Hi!

Apol= ogize for the delayed reply.
We posted a new rev (-08) to address= the comments that have been raised so far. Please do take a look at the di= ffs and see if your concerns are adequately addressed.

Please = see inline for responses (prefixed [VPB])

Regards,
-P= avan

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>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think you should therefore ma= ke it explicit that a prerequisite
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for your extensions is an imple= mentation of the Capability object
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0as specified in RFC5063 (my pro= posal for s3) , making it clear
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that this does not require any = of the other functionality of RFC
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A05063, especially no support for= the S bit in the Capabilities.
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>>
>> [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capabil= ity Object" needs a separate
>> prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD take a
>> call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using
>> Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then
>> need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate section for
>> RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of
>> certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and "Node Hellos",
>> there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarified.
I think it would be useful to prospective implementors to have a very short statement either at the end of s1 or as a new section to say that you need to have the Capability Object implemented as this is not necessarily in a basic RSVP=C2=A0 implementation or RSVP-TE implementation.=C2=A0 Since this draft is about RSVP-TE deployments (RF= C 3209) you get Node-Hellos automatically (and the RFC 4558 clarification is mentioned) and doesn't need to be called out explicitly.
[VPB] We added a statement in Section 1 to make this explicit.=
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>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 Your response regarding= what happens if a peer initially
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0acknowledges that it supports t= he new capabilities by setting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I/F bits in the Capability and = sends some messages with the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit s= et, but then stops setting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit d= oesn't really address the problem.=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0Would this mean that the = receiver should assume that the peer can
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0no longer support the extension= s?=C2=A0
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] Yes.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Is this a permanent state or co= uld the peer start setting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit a= gain and restore initial
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0functionality - or should this = just not be allowed.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionality.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think you need to think throu= gh what happes in the various
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0possible cases and explain what= an implementation should do in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0each case.
 What seems to be missing is what should be done if either or both of the two capabilities are active on the peer or some of its LSPs when the=C2=A0 Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit is cleared in a message (which = I think could be any message from the peer).=C2=A0 If I understand correctly it is possible that RI-RSVP might have to be switched off and depending on where the RI-RSVP process had got to in terms of sending repeat PATH messages, it might be necessary to revert to standard refreshing procedures from part way through the revised procedure - I think you probably need to be clear about what you would do in terms of where to enter the default refresh procedure and whether this means the refresh interval should revert to a lower value.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am not sure whether immediately unthrottling the f= low control would be desirable either!


[VPB] Inactivation of "= Refresh-Reduction" Capability will immediately inactivate both the &qu= ot;capabilities" discussed in the draft. This means that the implement= ation would immediately fall back on to traditional non-2961 RSVP procedure= s (and stop following the procedures outlined in sections 3 and 4). We added an explicit statement to the draft saying th= at "Inactivation of the RI-RSVP fu= nctionality MUST result in the use of the traditional smaller refresh interval". We believe implementations d= on't need any further guidance in order to cater to this "revert t= o traditional procedures" requirement. Note that implementations today= already know how to handle "disabling/enabling" of the "Ref= resh-Reduction" capability knob (this includes disabling/enabling per-= session flow control). They already know how to handle adjustments to "= ;refresh-interval".
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality
>> enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the
>> implementation does everything that is specified as required for the
>> given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation doesn't
>> employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'll try
>> and add some text to make this obvious.
>> =C2=A0
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- So, I have done my homework a= nd checked back on what happens
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0when there is no acknowledgemen= t of refreshes. The relevant
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0parameter is the cleanup time.= =C2=A0 However, this leaves us with a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0problem.. the cleanup time is t= ypically set as a multiple of the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0refresh interval (9 times seems= to be the default) - indeed I see
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that the interface configuratio= n on a Juniper router (!) actually
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sets it by asking for the multi= ple rather than an absolute value.=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wth the new dispensation in ths= document, there are two time
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0periods involved:=C2=A0 I think= you do need to respecify how to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0calculate a sensible cleanup in= terval, and note that the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0retransmissions will then halt = after this interval.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer
>> (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP
>> instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through
>> https:/= /tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01=
>> <https://urldefen= se.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-= 2Dravisingh-2Dteas-2Drsvp-2Dsetup-2Dretry-2D01&d=3DDwMDaQ&= ;c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DCFHVfW0W= sgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=3Dk7e-cloxf90XW9b_= KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=3DXXwwGPXiCQhVIgNDbiHxKEuHs1fkmMoiGQsHcQ33ZQE&e=3D>
>> for a = detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it
>> and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3)
>> that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from what you
>> are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not just
>> PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure
>> discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid
>> retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In Section
>> 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry limit is
>> reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid
>> retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this needs
>> to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding state
>> is torn down.
No.=C2=A0 I am not talking about the setup-retry timer.=C2=A0 I was thi= nking about the L value (the local state lifetime) as discussed in Section 3.7 of RFC 2205.=C2=A0 This is usually defined in terms of a multiple o= f the refresh timer - s3 of the draft suggests that the refresh timer be configured to 20 minutes making the L value at least an hour in the default case.=C2=A0 This would mean the slower refresh retries woul= d go on for an hour which seems excessive.=C2=A0 I suspect you need to specify an alternative algorithm for setting L.<= br>


--f403045d24f60ab16f055dd475df-- From nobody Sun Nov 12 22:33:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AD9124B18; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 22:33:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.65.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151055478013.21350.18407153229818243347@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 22:33:00 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-00.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 06:33:00 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Yang model for requesting Path Computation Authors : Italo Busi Sergio Belotti Victor Lopez Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Anurag Sharma Yan Shi Ricard Vilalta Karthik Sethuraman Michael Scharf Daniele Ceccarelli Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-00.txt Pages : 44 Date : 2017-11-12 Abstract: There are scenarios, typically in a hierarchical SDN context, in which an orchestrator may not have detailed information to be able to perform an end-to-end path computation and would need to request lower layer/domain controllers to calculate some (partial) feasible paths. Multiple protocol solutions can be used for communication between different controller hierarchical levels. This document assumes that the controllers are communicating using YANG-based protocols (e.g., NETCONF or RESTCONF). This document describes some use cases where a path computation request, via YANG-based protocols (e.g., NETCONF or RESTCONF), can be needed. This document also proposes a yang model for a stateless RPC which complements the stateful solution defined in [TE-TUNNEL]. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) Path Diversity using Exclude Route Authors : Zafar Ali George Swallow Fatai Zhang Dieter Beller Filename : draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-09.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2017-11-12 Abstract: Resource ReSerVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering provides support for the communication of exclusion information during label switched path (LSP) setup. This document specifies two new diversity subobjects for the RSVP eXclude Route Object (XRO) and the Explicit Exclusion Route Subobject (EXRS). Three different mechanisms are defined to accomplish LSP diversity in the provider or core network: the signaled diversity type indicates whether diversity is based on client, path computation engine (PCE), or network assigned identifiers. The solution described in this document is based on the assumption that LSPs are requested sequentially, i.e., the time period between the LSP setup requests for the two LSPs may be relatively long (in the order of days, weeks, months). Re-routing the LSP that was established first and may have existed for some time is not considered. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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we just submitted a new revision of draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity that resolves IESG directorate review comments.
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Comment resolution from two reviewers are still pending and a -10 version will be submitted in the coming weeks.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) Path Diversity using Exclude Route
        Authors         : Zafar Ali
                          George Swallow
                          Fatai Zhang
                          Dieter Beller
	Filename        : draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-09.txt
	Pages           : 25
	Date            : 2017-11-12

Abstract:
   Resource ReSerVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering provides support
   for the communication of exclusion information during label switched
   path (LSP) setup. This document specifies two new diversity
   subobjects for the RSVP eXclude Route Object (XRO) and the Explicit
   Exclusion Route Subobject (EXRS). Three different mechanisms are
   defined to accomplish LSP diversity in the provider or core network:
   the signaled diversity type indicates whether diversity is based on
   client, path computation engine (PCE), or network assigned
   identifiers.
   The solution described in this document is based on the assumption
   that LSPs are requested sequentially, i.e., the time period between
   the LSP setup requests for the two LSPs may be relatively long (in
   the order of days, weeks, months). Re-routing the LSP that was
   established first and may have existed for some time is not
   considered.

   

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From nobody Mon Nov 13 01:24:52 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B78128BB6 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:24:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Imq_hv9vdroj for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E00A6129540 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from CMOut01 (unknown [10.0.90.82]) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065DB21641C for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:21:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id ZMMQ1w00S2SSUrH01MMT3z; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:21:27 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=K4VSJ2eI c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=sC3jslCIGhcA:10 a=56brtfLAAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=R1RVDtAxhlatNv1aOPIA:9 a=ZnDSpbjvZCHeboam:21 a=nZYlGr1VTk854ee4:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=mYAOWqAtFUkA:10 a=1dbGxDndw2gA:10 a=MR7wyZgDW2UHtLKj5oSU:22 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=0nyuf706IWpnJ1bElSfxeLxSA78ics+8tRen0yo28Sc=; b=ZXHaO5yk6jioSXgfFbqe4QjtA5 ZqyD3WAif9Y+905zF/fbvgm3P+yK31nrcoCTwwkb6k8tQLeT4kmteeTwh/qTz6jKHfDfms0FW2rVo J0RacgLRI5rWjXYSn9bnAXMGE; Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:58586 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1eEAvk-002FUC-I5; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:21:24 -0700 To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" Cc: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec@ietf.org, TEAS WG Chairs , The IESG , "teas@ietf.org" References: <150644890311.20830.6212136664552694640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:21:18 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1eEAvk-002FUC-I5 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:58586 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 7 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_Discuss_on_draft-ietf-?= =?utf-8?q?teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06=3A_=28with_DISCUSS_and_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 09:24:51 -0000 Hi, Please see below. On 11/13/2017 5:57 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Mirja, Hi! > > Apologize for the delayed reply. > Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB). > > Regards, > -Pavan > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) > > wrote: > > Hi Vishnu, > > I don’t think what you proposed is a clarification at all. RF2961 > clearly reads to me that you should not retry any more after the > Rapid retry limit has been reached: > > > "Rl is the maximum number of times a message will be >            transmitted without being acknowledged.“ > Please not that this section applies to "a message containing a MESSAGE_ID object with the ACK_Desired flag set" and The ACK_Desired flag will typically be set only in trigger messages. This means that these procedure does not apply to normal RSVP refresh processing and that normal RFC2205 defined Refresh Processing or Summary Refresh processing continues. > > [VPB] Yes. As per RFC2961, the retry limit (Rl) is the maximum number of > times a message will be transmitted without being acknowledged. But this > just governs the number of times you retransmit the message during the > "rapid retransmission phase". >RFC2961 is silent about what happens after > the "rapid retransmission phase" is complete and this is the > clarification that is being provided here in the draft. The draft is silent in general about anything that is *not* modified by the draft. I think having the informative statement is appropriate. > Note that the associated RSVP Path/Resv state doesn't get cleaned up > after the "rapid retransmission" phase is complete. So at each > subsequent refresh-interval, the unacked Path/Resv message will be sent > out again (note that if there is no change in the state, the same > MESSAGE_ID would get used). This behavior has always existed in RSVP-TE > implementations -- so it is incorrect to deduce from the "RFC 2961" text > above that the retransmission of the unacked Path/Resv will never happen > after the "Rl" is reached. > Agreed. Lou > > Also RFC2961 suggests an initial Rf of 500ms with 7 retries and and > delta of 2, that means you will see the following retries: > > 1. after 500ms > 2. after 1000ms > 3. after 2000ms > 4. after 4000ms > 5. after 8000ms > 6. after 16000ms > 7. after 32000ms > > and then give up. While you suggests to send all 300ms section > afterwards forever. That is not acceptable and can lead to congestion. > > > No, that is not what is being suggested. > RFC2961 suggests an Rf of 500ms with 3 retries and a delta of 2. So the > rapid retransmissions would be: > 1. after 500ms > 2. after 1000ms > 3. after 2000ms. > > With the proposal in the draft, you would try 7 times and > then stop the "rapid retransmission phase". So, what that means is that > the rapid retransmission phase lasts 31.5 seconds (first retry is after > 500ms and the seventh retry is after 32000ms). After this "rapid > retransmission phase" is complete, you keep sending the message out > every 30000ms (30seconds is not 300ms) until an acknowledgement is > received. > > Hope this helps. > > > > Mirja > > > > > > Am 05.10.2017 um 22:27 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram > >: > > > > Mirja, Hi! > > > > This was discussed in my response to Elwyn. I apologize for not > responding directly. > > > > RFC2961 doesn't discuss what to do with the retransmissions after > the retry limit is reached. It doesn't discuss how retransmissions > need to be paced after the rapid retries are stopped. Section 2.3 > (ver 7) of the current draft clarifies this and proposes the use of > a "not so rapid (30secs)" retransmission interval. > > > > There were a couple of questions from this section that you > wanted to get discussed: > > ---- > > (1) Why is there no termination criteria specified? > > There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting > transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling > behavior). All that is being discussed in this section is how these > transmissions get paced after the rapid retry limit is reached. The > slower timer transmission will go on until either an ack is received > (at which point the regular "refresh interval" comes into play) or > the corresponding LSP instance state is torn down. > > > > ---- > > (2) Why couldn't the regular refresh interval be used for these > un-acked retransmissions? > > The primary goal of the retransmission is to eke out an > acknowledgement from the neighbor as quickly as you can. You can use > the same value as the the regular refresh interval provided it is > small enough (like in the case of the conventional refresh interval > of 30 secs) . However, we are recommending the use of a "large > refresh interval" (20 mins) in the RI-RSVP technique -- we can't > wait that long for retrying the transmission of an unacked message. > > > > Consider a rudimentary state machine with the following states > (assuming the defaults suggested in the Appendix of the draft): > > - first retransmit (exponential back off) > > - second retransmit (exponential back off) > > ... > > - seventh retransmit (exponential back off) > > - 30s retransmission > > - 20m refresh (regular refresh timer) > > > > At any point when the Ack is received, you transition to the 20m > refresh state. > > > > --- > > > > Do these two responses adequately answer your questions? > > > > Regards, > > -Pavan > > > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) > > wrote: > > Hi Pavan, > > > > I don’t see any changes in the new version that addresses may > actual discuss on section 2.1.3 (now section 2.3). Can you please > clarify? > > > > Thanks, > > Mirja > > > > > > > Am 28.09.2017 um 05:45 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram > >: > > > > > > Mirja, Hi! > > > > > > Thanks for the review. We just posted a new revision (-07) to > address the Gen-Art review comments. Please go through the new diffs > (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-07 > ) > and let us know if additional changes are required. > > > > > > Also, please go through the responses provided to the other > review comments and let us know if there are still any unanswered > questions. > > > > > > Regards, > > > -Pavan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Mirja Kühlewind > > wrote: > > > Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for > > > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06: Discuss > > > > > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply > to all > > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to > cut this > > > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > > > > > Please refer to > https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > > > > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > > > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > DISCUSS: > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I'm uncertain what section 2.1.3. actually recommends. My > understanding is that > > > it is recommend to still send retransmit some message even if > the Rl was > > > reached and to that every 30s basically forever. First of all I > think this > > > still needs a termination criteria when to stop to try to > retransmit finally. > > > And the I don't understand why this is needed, instead of e.g. > just using a > > > larger Rl value? Can you please clarify! > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > COMMENT: > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I fully agree with the gan-art review (Thanks Elwyn!) and > Alvaro, that this > > > reads from time to time like a BCP but is actually a extension > specification. I > > > would strongly recommend to apply the changes proposed by the > gen-art review, > > > and there is also a very detailed list of nits/edits that > should probably be > > > applied. Please have a look at that! > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Teas mailing list > > > Teas@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Mon Nov 13 02:42:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7C5124BE8; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:42:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.619 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.619 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bzr8PNVau138; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC40D120726; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 02:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id vADAgEYo009615; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:42:14 GMT Received: from 950129200 (dhcp-8924.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.137.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id vADAg8l0009484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:42:12 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Lou Berger'" , , , Cc: References: <150932270746.3426.3220773532456344196@ietfa.amsl.com> <8de1c9eb-133a-14ea-f323-ef5502a12f07@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <8de1c9eb-133a-14ea-f323-ef5502a12f07@labn.net> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:42:04 -0000 Message-ID: <0c0a01d35c6c$110c52c0$3324f840$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKqlwxX7koj/XpId9+jof11b8xvzgLGsn2+oU1ybQA= Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.1.0.1062-23462.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--15.765-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--15.765-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: VfovoVrt/oYTRq2fvEtvbYzb2GR6Ttd3kUtSee+57IHczkKO5k4APmdR 3KZbtfZIZk3ki93OpLD22u4R8W4u+z4gGkEowIKZBEfU2vugRF0ZYA38gj3BxOJsgXmCsctFqvW iXskWA6b6HhZWpEMzZPFPDHhQkgxyCFc8edUb9x5DP8uRDLPyZhmyTBaqiJvcMiCpq6n6ariFQW TLaCVa4/rGMiCsF6vWEt10QoXBwhKD5Bu9Z++7yOYAh37ZsBDCkk5xcxBziMER34ro7k23nfNvm SaCnjTlt+odoSua73aRk6XtYogiarQ/aqQZTRfKVnRXm1iHN1bEQdG7H66TyH4gKq42LRYkTK/a 3OcilnYwkJK5m0Gzj+a6ywX0pYDygms6CmtQoIx+3BndfXUhXQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] inclusion of references in protocol feature configuration configuration X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:42:20 -0000 FWIW, this used to show up as an issue in MIB modules as well. A Description clause or a Reference clause would mention another document (such as an RFC) but would not include it as a square bracket reference (because, importantly, the module may be extracted as a standalone thing and so can't have a citation style reference). That meant that some documents that are important are not properly referenced. The way we solved this in MIB modules was to include a short note in the text immediately before the module saying "The module that follows makes reference to the following documents: [ref1], [ref2], ..." Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: 10 November 2017 15:29 > To: draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-te@ietf.org; draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp@ietf.org; > draft-ietf-teas-yang-te@ietf.org > Cc: teas@ietf.org > Subject: [Teas] inclusion of references in protocol feature configuration > configuration > > Hi, > In reviewing the the yang-te, rsvp and rsvp=te modules I noticed that > references aren't included in most config groupings/nodes. Given the > number of RFCs used to define the mechanisms covered by these modules I > think it's important to include a reference to the RFC that defines the > feature/information element covered in the model. I suspect this > comments is also applicable to other modules. > > Thanks, > Lou > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Mon Nov 13 04:52:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB6F1292F4; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 04:51:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.65.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151057751148.21466.13048558737309165064@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 04:51:51 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-06.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 12:51:51 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) extension for recording TE Metric of a Label Switched Path Authors : Zafar Ali George Swallow Clarence Filsfils Matt Hartley Kenji Kumaki Deutsche Telekom AG Filename : draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-06.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2017-11-13 Abstract: There are many scenarios in which Traffic Engineering (TE) metrics such as cost, delay and delay variation associated with the TE link formed by Label Switched Path (LSP) are not available to the ingress and egress nodes. This draft provides extensions for the Resource ReserVation Protocol- Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) to support automatic collection of cost, delay and delay variation information for the TE link formed by a LSP. 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X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1eF6bS-001jG8-Ms X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:53434 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 6 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] raw notes from session X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:56:30 -0000 Hi, As usual, notes from our session are available in etherpad: http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-100-teas Please review and made additions/corrections based on what took place in the session (comments should be sent to the list.) To aid in the review, please see: Recording: https://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf100/ietf100-canning-20171114-0930.mp3 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeQdMtuWpPk&index=51&list=PLC86T-6ZTP5g_hEODKiZDeZTpr2Vxd2B3 Thank you! Lou (Pavan and Matt) From nobody Tue Nov 28 13:33:08 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0500A128C81; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:33:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lou Berger To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.66.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: iesg-secretary@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net, teas-chairs@ietf.org, teas@ietf.org, Lou Berger Message-ID: <151190478701.12531.14637261605562896344.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:33:07 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 21:33:07 -0000 Lou Berger has requested publication of draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-01 as Informational on behalf of the TEAS working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec/