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Authors, Hi!

After finishing the shepherd review for this d= ocument, I have come to the conclusion that this document needs to be tagge= d with "Informational" status (as opposed to the "Standards = Track" status). This would be consistent with the other "architec= ture" documents that we have worked on in the TEAS WG.

I understand that using Sta= ndards Track makes it easy for the document to be normatively referenced fr= om other documents (if needed) that are going onto Standards Track. Otherwi= se, we have to explain and catalogue the requisite "downref" for = IETF Last Call. That said, adding the downref is not uncommon or burdensome= .
<= br>
If you agree with this change in the "Intended Status", please d= o update the draft and publish a new version. If you do not agree, please d= o debate/discuss this on the list.

Regards,
-Pavan (as document shepherd)
--94eb2c12e40e4ea984055f5eb217-- From nobody Sat Dec 2 11:13:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6044120727; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:13:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.66.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151224198975.7411.8665321441242289747@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 11:13:09 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-04.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 19:13:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Architecture for Scheduled Use of Resources Authors : Yan Zhuang Qin Wu Huaimo Chen Adrian Farrel Filename : draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-04.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2017-12-02 Abstract: Time-scheduled reservation of traffic engineering (TE) resources can be used to provide resource booking for TE Label Switched Paths so as to better guarantee services for customers and to improve the efficiency of network resource usage into the future. This document provides a framework that describes and discusses the architecture for the scheduled reservation of TE resources. This document does not describe specific protocols or protocol extensions needed to realize this service. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sat Dec 2 11:13:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F6E120727; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:13:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.618 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.618 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aYaSLp5i-G_u; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD341128D19; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id vB2JDc3f013001; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 19:13:38 GMT Received: from 950129200 (86.167.112.87.dyn.plus.net [87.112.167.86]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id vB2JDaOS012984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Dec 2017 19:13:37 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Vishnu Pavan Beeram" Cc: , , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 19:13:40 -0000 Message-ID: <02c601d36ba1$aa391250$feab36f0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02C7_01D36BA1.AA3BAA60" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AQEWpQ13LlSALo+7rpZkW9sFKqLeMwJAYT/hpJfzaKA= X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.1.0.1062-23506.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--15.185-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--15.185-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: oll/cJ/dUC4P+oXcPRVIGOLdprnA5EQRM2ts1frI8eptIkIAmpS+Sghk lHt5Yr9cGzWxGjP0JPMWBSZnZ5Voz2qJrgOBmG6qZRXzmpILXoOd2Wz0X3OaLbV5fSMRD1zq6G5 w+weD6VQ2hhAqtUXyk6eyteKX0oYV7IxukeTlUbpDU5wIS9P5tyNGSJ9zRuUNSSUXkvSVAdx3lU 4wpVGI0vYtdyW98OKEjykx9/UHKEHQF+kb3C+IOsAmcZEx8XHJOhJ9m53n4aAep400rdpOCxZ0n 9DHfDteNtrqBJtuOX5BVgr5vOsPONLF6Y0L7R/Qd7yMwO18iIghBdUXaqx1XbXcdpVx4xdSIvwd oLo6xB8wehHQpjQxlVWxAz9Ls6I18kwXqnKVk1ZUXvI6K7iraSBW9lXcEHZA0ToSvkRVqOZbYTo DRWMGWpDQiv0Qe0IxAkhxxowNxQIX8k3r0LX5EJHXKSSl+ScK/AZW18vjv1pyri/EgufZd2AqMC kr6SPveUM3rWqzLMRIBerroh0O+vWfKuqzviIemHJeAYKlcpN3Bf9JIqsoeA8YwboCQc88CE7se pEW6CvzbeV2VN8Li3ZBE86uj+HtFIXwv4qc0ZOlhD9Iy+IVwyIEB/X0tggGlThwL2cA6F1R18Qp zXStTjhEMZsHJG9bERIFEmVIRRZTovWuZWqWkd/wYmMFcJSIM9g+YfdqJKFT+oAjVn9e0ORqQAx bWD9+4vM1YF6AJbbqChA6lSRJvrQ/aqQZTRfKFnjKVTYbDMAj80Za3RRg8KJYA6H3WrlTTrWuw3 X/hiD1ycbI0e9W3Hf/d9ipihqErUguhpNIfiM= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding the "Intended Status" for draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 19:13:44 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02C7_01D36BA1.AA3BAA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Pavan, The doc was posted as Standards track because it is generally easier to "downgrade" than to "upgrade". If you are willing to debate the value of informational support documents with the IESG, then you are clearly less tired than me/ I'll post an update. A From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Sent: 02 December 2017 17:20:06 (UTC+00:00) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London To: draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org; TEAS WG Chairs Subject: Regarding the "Intended Status" for draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources Authors, Hi! After finishing the shepherd review for this document, I have come to the conclusion that this document needs to be tagged with "Informational" status (as opposed to the "Standards Track" status). This would be consistent with the other "architecture" documents that we have worked on in the TEAS WG. I understand that using Standards Track makes it easy for the document to be normatively referenced from other documents (if needed) that are going onto Standards Track. Otherwise, we have to explain and catalogue the requisite "downref" for IETF Last Call. That said, adding the downref is not uncommon or burdensome. If you agree with this change in the "Intended Status", please do update the draft and publish a new version. If you do not agree, please do debate/discuss this on the list. Regards, -Pavan (as document shepherd) ------=_NextPart_000_02C7_01D36BA1.AA3BAA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Pavan,

 

The doc was posted as = Standards track because it is generally easier to "downgrade" = than to "upgrade".

 

If you are willing to debate = the value of informational support documents with the IESG, then you are = clearly less tired than me/

 

I'll post an = update.

 

A

 

From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram
Sent: 02 = December 2017 17:20:06 (UTC+00:00) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, = London
To: draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources@ietf.org        = ;   
Cc: teas@ietf.org; TEAS WG = Chairs
Subject: Regarding the "Intended Status" for = draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources

Authors, Hi!

After finishing the = shepherd review for this document, I have come to the conclusion that = this document needs to be tagged with "Informational" status = (as opposed to the "Standards Track" status). This would be = consistent with the other "architecture" documents that we = have worked on in the TEAS WG.

I understand that using Standards Track makes it easy = for the document to be normatively referenced from other documents (if = needed) that are going onto Standards Track. Otherwise, we have to = explain and catalogue the requisite "downref" for IETF Last = Call. That said, adding the downref is not uncommon or = burdensome.

 

If you agree with this change in the "Intended = Status", please do update the draft and publish a new version. If = you do not agree, please do debate/discuss this on the list.

 

Regards,

-Pavan (as document shepherd)

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Pavan,

I've reviewed this document and=C2=A0believe it is ready= for publication. I just have an editorial note, there seem to be a lot of= =C2=A0excess blank lines throughout, but I=E2=80=99m sure the RFC editor wi= ll=C2=A0clean that up.

Cheers,
Andy


On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:53 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupava= n@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-<= wbr>requirements-07

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

_______________________________________________
Teas mailing list
Teas@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas


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Pavan,

IMHO, this is ready for publicat= ion.

Cheers,
Andy


On Sat, Dec 2= , 2017 at 1:57 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

_______________________________________________
Teas mailing list
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--f403043de4c4761000055f6354b5-- From nobody Sat Dec 2 14:53:03 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFB4127A91; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 14:53:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Eb6OinSerrhL; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 14:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ot0-x235.google.com (mail-ot0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DF3D126D45; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 14:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot0-x235.google.com with SMTP id q3so11923271oth.2; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 14:53:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=3Px1Mvo8p765k4taybOzrOcNlpS2lCCcS5sD+bgxtPA=; b=N00KicAtU87qFRD4pZaztYoWk2Hf1Wb62aPKsw2AF2L6LshTfFdLRqPQWZrff7PJBJ VjXFKwwMK1JmwVRic/Jls6RJo145h64oWZOsTjCUjTkXvRbcDVZviuTWpof5nWIiBiLH 30ZpfPgnqlEVv2ADfBq/oXhM6NJVmwl5v6HWGnvjhj2JY29Y6G5s0UBYukq5uiER5eB+ RwW8HDk2c7cLDeNCq5BmjwftYo9p9XOYRv2fYufttdvhOA6I63ZeXyrNTq+cktmpSGaD 1ItQaTK1ItU88jRXBjFjiwZd0DURVRpEM2ILh9zTpE9lTW+HkEAlly53A9IRgNRMOOaB D3Zw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3Px1Mvo8p765k4taybOzrOcNlpS2lCCcS5sD+bgxtPA=; b=KlVzkOlgubUrDEJQo3NVigpvaRDKwFlWAdZXJS8Z6qbgOFtWLLVFDjsvQEvOwKHcwd 4HwxKP9wSsRqlUeCSO7Vz+xuorN1fyaCLdtaMR9m5ZCAbFVPizRpIBe6KExYbB1FpHQ0 TuJTC/4lW/CB2Ku6Pe5q6MS+KkCLzCU3kzk24tTGOWf3nK+eAxVk+WG+N8HVqmLis2o2 Sg1DMJ1KsdS56B1J9pOSFb6RdudPGiufxjnhlHkl6wKcT8kn3h4k5CYGqrVj10UsbL7t Sf4tEuytZn2Pd+gH0lbZw7Wgc7WG8ebhXJyDAsj7Ev3wTlrjvZ9cuGdK4vQIR9IWWZKv S//g== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX5qqkJlZIBJyO6SO8CD4EFaPJ4uxXGU2RZy/QqrPegFWn2fe+YO C251frr1EN0P+pVaw4hI5LozUk91FB7SKv3SpZM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbTOakOT9SiwOfb/OFKK3H/JKNW0bKZvenUcw7p+sZLidx1MM9m8vN8eg0oyrTy7se1Rwc7IpGK9Sy6k9sVipI= X-Received: by 10.157.47.104 with SMTP id h95mr12412340otb.77.1512255180563; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 14:53:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.83.141 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 14:52:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 17:52:40 -0500 Message-ID: To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Cc: "teas@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c03222ad8ed98055f63589c" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 22:53:03 -0000 --94eb2c03222ad8ed98055f63589c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Pavan, IMHO, this is ready for publication. Cheers, Andy On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > This starts a two-week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04. > > The working group last call ends on Dec 16th. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > Pavan and Lou. > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > --94eb2c03222ad8ed98055f63589c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pavan,

IMHO, this is ready for publicat= ion.

Cheers,
Andy


On Sat, Dec 2= , 2017 at 1:59 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-i= nfo-model-04.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

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On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

_______________________________________________
Teas mailing list
Teas@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas


_______________________________________________
Teas mailing list
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https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas
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I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for = publication.

 

 

Best Regards.

 

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China Telecom Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, = China.

 

=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Vishnu Pavan Beeram = [mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com]
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All,
This starts a two-week = working group last call = on
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The working group last = call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing = list.

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believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This = is useful and important, even from authors.

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Pavan = and Lou.

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Dear Pavan,

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All,=
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All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
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The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
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believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
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Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

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Hi Chairs and All,

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Best Regards,

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I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication.


Thanks,
Dieter


On 02.12.2017 07:53, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
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I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication.


Thanks,
Dieter


On 02.12.2017 07:57, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

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believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
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I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication.


Thanks,
Dieter


On 02.12.2017 07:59, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.


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List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 21:53:39 -0000 All, Many thinks to the people who took notes during the meeting in Singapore.=20 I've been through the recording and updated the notes in etherpad (http://e= therpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-100-teas, also pasted below). I'll= publish these as minutes in a couple of days if there's no further comment= s/objections. Cheers Matt TEAS Agenda -- IETF 100 > Version: Oct 31, 2017 > Tuesday November 14th 2017 > 09:30 - 12:00 - Tuesday Morning Session I > Room: Canning >=20 > Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials#teas > Etherpad: http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-= 100-teas?useMonospaceFont=3Dtrue > Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf100/teas > Audio stream: > Jabber: xmpp:teas@jabber.ietf.org?join >=20 > Available post session: > Recording: https://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf100/ietf100-cannin= g-20171114-0930.mp3 > YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCeQdMtuWpPk > # Start Time Information > 0 9:30 10 Title: Administrivia & WG Status > Draft: > Presenter: Chairs Lou Berger: please use the list for discussions. If draft authors discuss c= hanges amongst themselves and publish a new version then it still needs to = be discussed on the list. However, if discussion on the list results in cha= nges, then that can be considered WG consensus. > 1 9:40 5 Title: WG Draft updates > Draft: Many > Presenter: Chairs Pavan Beeram: We didn't receive an update from the pcecc-use-case draft. Wo= uld be useful if the authors can get an update sent to the list. Authors of the te-metric-recording draft still need to address/discuss the = comments sent out mid-last-year. > 2 9:45 5 Title: Post pub request update: draft-ietf-teas-network-= assigned-upstream-label > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-networ= k-assigned-upstream-label > Presenter: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Lou Berger: there were no technical changes since the last revision, right? Pavan Beeram: No Lou Berger: generally we do not do an additional LC if there are no technic= al changes post-LC so we can proceed without a second LC > 3 9:50 5 Title: Post pub request update: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-s= caling-rec > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-t= e-scaling-rec > Presenter: Vishnu Pavan Beeram > 4 9:55 10 Title: Post pub request update: draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diver= sity > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-lsp-di= versity > Presenter: Dieter Beller > 5 10:05 10 Title: LC Update: draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo > 9:46 Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/html/draft-ietf-teas-y= ang-te-topo > Presenter: Xufeng Liu Lou Berger: Poll: how many have read the latest version? - A good number How many are planning to augment this model (e.g. in CCAMP)?=20 - Also a good number If you're working on an augmentation please rlease review the guidelines on= augmentation guidance in the latest version and send feedback to the list = in the next two weeks. Would like feedback before submitting for publicati= on in ~2 weeks. Positive feedback is also very useful. > 6 10:15 15 Title: RSVP/TE YANG Models Update > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-r= svp > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp-te > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te > Presenter: Rakesh Gandhi Lou Berger: I sent a message to the list commenting on the need for referen= cing RFCs that define the feature being configured, can you comment on this= ?=20 Rakesh Gandhi: We have references in some places, but not all. We agree to= go and add missing references to the docuement.=20 Lou Berger: it's really good to have references to where the original featu= res were defined so that everyone understands what is intended. Lou Berger: there are three pieces to the yang-te draft, general, RSVP-TE a= nd MPLS-TE, does it make sense to split in three different documents? Gener= ally we try not to put separate technologies into the same document. I'm ta= lking about splitting the document into three WG documents and moving quick= ly to WGLC, not restarting the entire process. Rakesh Gandhi: we did that for RSVP we had two and now we have three, we ca= n split as needed. Lou Berger: it would be good to hear from the WG. Poll: How many think it is better to split generic and technology-specific = part? - A reasonable number. How many want to keep it as it is? - None. Sounds like we shoudl split the documents and submit the new ones as WG dra= fts Rakesh Gandhi: OK Xufeng Liu: what about te-types?=20 Lou Berger: it's generic. Is there any reason why we shouldn't keep it in t= he generic documents? Xufeng Liu: The te-types will be shared by topology and tunnel models. Ok t= o keep the te-types in the same document > 7 10:30 10 Title: ACTN Info model > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-i= nfo-model > Presenter: Sergio Belotti Lou Berger: we are going to check that all the IPR declarations are there a= nd then we can issue a WG LC on this draft together with the requirements a= nd framework draft > 8 10:40 5 Title: ACTN YANG applicability > 10:13 Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-y= ang > Presenter: Haomian Zheng Michael Scharf: On slide 3, there is some confusion between the L1CSM and t= he VN Member. The draft doesn't well define how they relate to each other a= nd whether they overlap. Haomian Zheng: VN model provide a high-level description on how the virtual= network is described. While L1CSM is used to support the L1VPN service.=20 Michael Scharf: We need a clear defintion of the differences so that a CMI = user can understand how to establish different service types. Especially fo= r layer 1 we need a precise definition of what the difference is and why we= need two different things, and how the customer would use this, e.g. how t= o set up a VN member, how to set up a L1 member, etc. The document doesn't = explain these concepts well. Haomian Zheng: OK - well discuss more offline and update the docment. Lou Berger: How does the service model in this draft related with the trans= port-service model that presented a few meetings ago?=20 Haomian Zheng: That model (transport service) is to describe the client-ser= ver relationship in multi-layer network, which applies on MPI. The current = service model is used on CMI, which is different.=20 Jeff Tantsura: Don't be fixated with a specific transport protocol (NETCONF= /RESTCONF), gRPC is another option; focus only on the YANG models. LouBerger: the draft should only mention the YANG model and say nothing abo= ut how they are transported. > 9 10:45 10 Title: ACTN VN YANG > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lee-teas-actn-vn= -yang > Presenter: Dhruv Dhody Igor Bryskin: what you describe is exactly what TE Topology can do it right= now. The customer can configure and view an abstract topology that has not= hing to do with the native topology. Dhruv Dhody: TE Topology and Tunnel model are required to provide the attri= butes that network element and SDN controller needs, but not to show to the= customer. In the IETF we've found it helpful in the past to have separate = models for the customer view and the provider network. In theory it is poss= ible to use TE Topology but using VN allows specifying the policies and let= the MDSC to further translate rather than having the customer to configure= all the detailed attributes. So, for example. you can set up a policy to o= ptimize links for for delay and all the details of how that's actually done= are hidden from the customer. The customer view comes from the CMI and is = the job of the MDSC to translate that into the real provider network. So we= need to decide whether we want to do everything with the same model or whe= ther we want a customer-facing model that only deals with the things that c= ustomers care about. Igor Bryskin: So what can't be done with the topology? In our view, it is d= ifferent layer of abstractions but it is the same topology. Dhruv Dhody: The example I gave for link optimization is one. We reuse the = abtract topology model where we can, but having a VN model as an entity tow= ards the customer helps. We also want to ask if having the same model at al= l layers meeting requirements for device, network as well as service and ex= posing all these details towards the customer is a good idea?=20 Lou Berger: generally in this group we try to re-use the solutions that we = already have and to define things in a generic way so they can be used in m= ultiple layers. We are trying to use the same models. There may be some mis= sing attributes. We need to understand what it is missing before deciding w= hether we wish to define new models or augmenting the existing models. This= was one of the changes I requested in the Framework document Micheal Scharf: I want to back what has already been said regarding applica= blility of TE topology and tunnel models. It's not clear to me why a new mo= del is needed. Bear in mind also that the relationship between the MDSC and= the PNC could be a business relationship or it could be an internal interf= ace within the same organization, and the attributes you expose between lay= ers could be different in each case. I think you'll need a lot of the attri= butes in the TEAS models in the VN models too. Applying a policy to a set o= f tunnels is also something we don't need to solve here. Dhruv: I agree, but we are considering the case where a business relationsh= ip exists Michael Scharf: But that's just one case. The Framework document has a clea= r use case where the relationship is not external. Dhruv Dhody: I agree. Since this model refers to the topology mmodel it abs= tracts things, and if you want more details the reference is there so you c= an go to the topology or tunnel model and find those details. But we don't = think the fact that abstraction isn't always required means it shouldn't be= available. Young Lee: the VN concept is needed to express customer's demand, but we d= on't want to reinvent the wheel so we re-use many things from the tunnel an= d topology models Lou Berger: there is no disagreement that the VN concept is useful, but the= disagreement is on how to realize the VN concept Young Lee: To answer Michael's question, customers don't care about diversi= ty becasue they have SLAs. They may have requirements on delay, etc but the= y don't need that at the VN level. Micheal Scharf: I disagree on that. In a use case I have, diversity is need= ed so we need to add diversity to the CMI. If we can't have that, why are w= e doing traffic engineering? Young Lee: we aren't doing traffic engineering for the customer - the SLA t= akes care of that. Lou Berger: I think this highlights the range of requirements customers may= have. In my experience in transport networks being able to tell the custom= er that you're using a diverse path is important and if we presented an int= erface that didn't include that they'd never use it. But that's just one us= e case, and in others the customer may not want that. Young Lee: our main case is where CMI is the demarcation between the networ= k and the customer Lou Berger: I'm thinking of an external customer. I think it would be worth= while the authors to take the TE Topology model and see how it can be augme= nted and what leaf in the TE Topology is not needed and can be marked as op= tional. YANG provides the ability to not use everything that is in the mode= l. Dhruv Dhody: one thing we found is that a simple TE topology is pretty stra= ightforward, but what we do in type 2 VNs with full-mesh, hub-and-spoke, et= c is very messy in the TE topology. Who talk to whom and what are the prope= rties of objects. It's easy to ask for bandwidth on a link; it's not possib= le to ask to optimize the whole network for delay. That's why we felt it wa= s better to start a new model, but we can go through the TE model and see w= hat's needed. Pavan Beeram: that would be very useful. I don't think anything mentioned s= o far is hard to do with the topology model, but working out where the topo= logy model is lacking would be useful. Daniele Ceccarelli: the problem is not what is missing but what is too much= . The customers who just provide connectivity between endpoints do not want= to know anything about tunnels and topology but just being able to request= connectivity between two points without caring about multiple domains or m= ultiple technologies. The VN is intended to cover this simple case. Lou Berger: There are different cases and we wish a solution that can cover= a range of use cases and we have to figure out the right way to do that. Daniele Ceccarelli: in many cases, if you tell a customer to deal with a to= pology they won't want to. Lou Berger: you could use the topology model but only supply endpoints; I t= hink that's the solution Pavan suggested earlier Igor Bryskin: optimizing an abstract topology can often be a single attribu= te as you're only optimizing for one thing. A single-node or mesh topology = is also very simple. When people say it's too messy to do with the TE topol= ogy, I'd like to see what exactly is messy. Dhruv Dhody: I think this an exercise for the authors - we'll take it offli= ne. Lou Berger: You also need to address Daniele's point - is there too much th= at's always required and could be optional or a feature-set. Pay really clo= se attention to nodes that are mandatory and those that aren't. Jeff Tantsura: for customers, what matters is the ability to express constr= aints. Physical diversity is a business requirement and when I was a custom= er I would ask for cable layouts. So you absolutely must have the ability t= o express this, but it doesn't have to be mandatory. Most people will work = at the level of SLAs but the details need to be there for those who need th= em. Dhruv Dhody: it's there, but not at the per-tunnel level. What we do is say= that all members must be diverse for the whole VN so we have redundancy. W= e can do this via the TE topology model, but is it too complicated? e.g. if= I have a full mesh and make a change, I have no way to say I'm making a ch= ange to the VN as a whole; it has to be on each tunnel. Jeff Tantsura: it's about the ability to express what you need. Dieter Beller: for VN Type 2, I do not understand why the TE Topology model= cannot be used because these use cases were considered when developing the= TE Topology model. We were specifically looking at this when we developed = the TE topology model. Dhruv Dhody: yes, we used the TE topology and referenced it. We are maintai= ning per-VN data like policies in this model. We also include operational d= ata as well as configuration, so I can use this model to see how the VN as = a whole is functioning without looking at each tunnel, link, etc individual= ly. Lou Berger: so there's some homework for the authors before we discuss WG a= doption. > 10 10:55 10 Title: ACTN telemetry > 10:59 Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lee-teas-actn-pm= -telemetry-autonomics > Presenter: Young Lee Micheal Scharf: two questions. First, this model contains technology-specif= ic attributes (e.g., packet loss). Need to think about how to deal with dif= ferent technologies and how to model it, e.g., defining different augmentat= ions and it isn't clear how you do that. Second, scaling policies can be co= mplex and include e.g. also business logic. Do we really want to encode thi= s in such a YANG model? And what about policies beyond scaling? Young Lee: We thought packet loss was generic, but TDM may think about BER= . It could be augmented in CCAMP. On scaling, I agree that isn't really tel= emetry. We could take it out and put it in a separate model if people think= it's useful. Lou Berger: where you're augmenting the TE topology with things that are tr= uly generic then it would be good to get them in the TE model before we clo= se it. Could you send them to the list soon so they can be discussed and we= can work out whether we should bring it in? Pavan Beeram: some of the attributes you are augmenting from the TE Tunnel = are already there in the base model. Young Lee: I think the TE model has more link statistics than tunnel statis= tics Pavan Beeram: there's per-link statistics in the topology model, and then s= ome statistics for the tunnel as a whole. Young: the tunnel is per-domain? We're talking about C-to-C tunnel Lou Berger: we're running short of time, so we should take this to the list Jeff Tantsura: usability: you can want to compare your operational state wi= th your intended state, and we recently published a draft with a compare op= eration for this based on filters. That would be useful here. > 11 11:05 10 Title: ACTN TE Service Mapping > 11:11 Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lee-teas-te-serv= ice-mapping-yang > Presenter: Daniele Ceccarelli Michael Scharf: these examples are too simple and unrealistic, please add m= ore realistic use cases in order to explain what you want to map to (e.g., = when talking about L3VPN, an actual topology with PE, P, and ASBR routers, = tunnels, etc.). An optical network may be an underlay of the IP network. An= d there's contradictions between this and the framework document. Daniele Ceccarelli: these are not the latest slides, the latest version sho= uld make you happier Michael Scharf: same comment applies to the latest slides in datatracker. Lou Berger: are your comments to the slides or to the draft? Michael Scharf: Both. The draft has less than the slides. We could do with = an example L3VPN over two ASs.=20 Lou Berger: we're running short of time but it would be great if you could = get together this week to discuss what's missing. > 12 11:15 10 Title: TE Topology and Tunnel Modeling for Transport Netw= orks > 11:20 Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bryskin-teas-te-= topo-and-tunnel-modeling > Presenter: Igor Bryskin Lou Berger: (Poll) How many think it is a useful work for the WG? A good nu= mber How many have read the document? Also a good number How many think this is a good foundation? Also a good number We'll take this to the list > 13 11:25 15 Title: Consideration for applying PCE in native IP networ= k > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-teas-ccdr > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-teas-pce-native-ip > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-pce-pcep-extension-= native-ip > Presenter: Aijun Wang Adrian Farrel: Can you confirm that you are not doing anything special in t= he forwarding plane that isn't already achieved today using CLI to install = static routes. In other words, your proposal is about introducing a central= controller and standardardised southbound protocol, and not any change to = how the network works. Aijun Wang: Yes. We don't want to change the network. Lou Berger: Poll: How many are interested TEAS WG to work on TE for IP netw= ork, independently of this or another solution? A few people, more than I e= xpected If we say to do this an experimental work and provide a home to foster this= , how many would be interested? (asking for those who have raised the hands= before, not to raise again): Jeff Tantsura: if there's interest, we should give it a change Lou Berger: we'll take this to the list towards an adoption call as experim= ental. That covers the first document, and the last is definitely PCE. I'd = like to hear from the PCE Chair on where they think the second document sho= uld be. Jon Hardwick (as PCE chair): This was discussed in PCE a couple of meetings= ago. I wanted this to come to TEAS because I wanted some guidance on wheth= er this is a problem we all want to be working on, and an adoption poll in = TEAS would answer this. I don't think we're ready to adopt solution work in= PCE yet. > 14 11:40 10 Title: Use Cases for SF Aware Topology Models > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bryskin-teas-use= -cases-sf-aware-topo-model > Presenter: Igor Bryskin Dhruv Dhody: Is this model useful with VxLAN? Is this model only for when t= he underlay is a TE tunnel? igor Bryskin: we don't want to narrow down to TE tunnels - it could be any = other tunnel. The point is that it doesn't matter where the service functio= ns are in the topology. Dhruv Dhody: if I have a choice between the same service function being ava= ilable in multiple places, I can make a good decision on which service func= tions I should choose. Igor Bryskin: I agree > 15 11:50 10 Title: SF Aware TE Topology YANG Model > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bryskin-teas-sf-= aware-topo-model > Presenter: Igor Bryskin Lou Berger: Interesting work - we'd definitely like feedback on the list. Lou Berger: something I forgot earlier: there's no joint yang session this = time. I'd like to get feedback from the WG on whether that's a good or bad = thing and we'd love to hear from you. Himanshu Shah: we asked for LC on our associated co-routed FRR draft and it= hasn't been mentioned. What's the status? Pavan Beeram: it was updated yesterday, so we'd like to see it discussed on= the list. > Adjourn 12:00 > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:56 PM > To: teas@ietf.org > Subject: [Teas] raw notes from session >=20 > Hi, > As usual, notes from our session are available in etherpad: > http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-100-teas >=20 > Please review and made additions/corrections based on what took place in > the session (comments should be sent to the list.) 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charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Attendees: Igor, Xufeng, Carlo, Young, Sergio, Pavan - Discussed technology specific augmentations to the TE topology model > While augmenters are ok with the text in Section 6 of draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo-13, there is an issue with the augmentation capability of the TE label specification. Some augmentatio= ns want to specify technology specific label formats, but the current YANG type of the label does not allow a convenient way, because the current label uses the YANG binary type. > The planned solution is to define a grouping in ietf-te-types.yang: 1) This grouping can be shared by TE topology model, TE tunnel model, and any technology specific augmentation models; 2) Any changes of this grouping will not affect ietf-te-topology model, allowing to publish the TE topology model independently; 3) Technology specific models can augment TE topology and TE tunnel models at the locations where this grouping is used, to meet the technology specific requirements. > Changes in ietf-te-topology.yang: - leaf label-start { - type rt-types:generalized-label; + container label-start { + uses te-types:te-label; description "This is the starting lable if a lable range is specified. This is the lable value if a single lable is specified, in which case, attribute 'label-end' is not set."; } - leaf label-end { - type rt-types:generalized-label; + container label-end { + uses te-types:te-label; description "The ending lable if a lable range is specified; This attribute is not set, If a single lable is specified."; } > Changes in ietf-te-types.yang (to be finalized by a separate document draft-ietf-teas-yang-te, but the grouping name is needed now): grouping te-label { description "This grouping defines the generic TE label. The modeling structure can be augmented for each technology. For un-specified technologies, rt-types:generalized-label is used."; container te-label { description "Container that specifies TE label."; choice technology { default generic; description "Data plane technology type."; case generic { leaf generic { type rt-types:generalized-label; description "TE label specified in a generic format."; } } } } } > Changes of resulting tree view (if the grouping definition is changed later on, the tree view will be affected accordingly): - +--rw label-restriction* [inclusive-exclusive label-start] - | +--rw inclusive-exclusive enumeration - | +--rw label-start rt-types:generalized-label - | +--rw label-end? rt-types:generalized-label + +--rw label-restriction* [index] + | +--rw index uint32 + | +--rw inclusive-exclusive? enumeration + | +--rw label-start + | | +--rw te-label + | | +--rw (technology)? + | | +--:(generic) + | | +--rw generic? rt-types:generalized-label + | +--rw label-end + | | +--rw te-label + | | +--rw (technology)? + | | +--:(generic) + | | +--rw generic? rt-types:generalized-label Thanks, - Xufeng --_000_BN3PR0201MB08678AE38D95A2A042743A90F1320BN3PR0201MB0867_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Attendees: Igor, Xufeng, Carlo, Young, Sergio, Pavan=

 

- Discussed technology specific augmentations to the= TE topology model

  > While augmenters are ok with the text in= Section 6 of

    draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo-13, = there is an issue with the

    augmentation capability of the TE= label specification. Some augmentations

    want to specify technology specif= ic label formats, but the current

    YANG type of the label does not a= llow a convenient way, because the

    current label uses the YANG binar= y type.

 

  > The planned solution is to define a grou= ping in ietf-te-types.yang:

    1) This grouping can be shared by= TE topology model, TE tunnel

       model, and any = technology specific augmentation models;

    2) Any changes of this grouping w= ill not affect ietf-te-topology model,

       allowing to pub= lish the TE topology model independently;

    3) Technology specific models can= augment TE topology and

       TE tunnel model= s at the locations where this grouping is

       used, to meet t= he technology specific requirements.

 

  > Changes in ietf-te-topology.yang:

 

-     leaf label-start {

-       type rt-types:= generalized-label;

+     container label-start = {

+       uses te-ty= pes:te-label;

        descripti= on

        &nbs= p; "This is the starting lable if a lable range is specified.

        &nbs= p;  This is the lable value if a single lable is specified,=

        &nbs= p;  in which case, attribute 'label-end' is not set.";=

      }

-     leaf label-end {

-       type rt-types:= generalized-label;

+     container label-end {<= o:p>

+       uses te-ty= pes:te-label;

        descripti= on

        &nbs= p; "The ending lable if a lable range is specified;

        &nbs= p;  This attribute is not set, If a single lable is

        &nbs= p;  specified.";

      }

 

  > Changes in ietf-te-types.yang (to be fin= alized by a separate

    document draft-ietf-teas-yang-te,= but the grouping name is needed now):

 

  grouping te-label {

    description

      "This grouping d= efines the generic TE label.      

       The modeli= ng structure can be augmented for each technology.

       For un-specifie= d technologies, rt-types:generalized-label

       is used.";=

    container te-label {

      description

        "Con= tainer that specifies TE label.";

      choice technology {

        default g= eneric;

        descripti= on

        &nbs= p; "Data plane technology type.";

        case gene= ric {

        &nbs= p; leaf generic {

        &nbs= p;   type rt-types:generalized-label;

         &nb= sp;  description

        &nbs= p;     "TE label specified in a generic format.&qu= ot;;

        &nbs= p; }

        }

      }

    }

  }

 

  > Changes of resulting tree view (if the g= rouping definition is

    changed later on, the tree view w= ill be affected accordingly):

 

-  +--rw label-restriction* [inclusive-excl= usive label-start]

-  |  +--rw inclusive-exclusive &= nbsp;  enumeration

-  |  +--rw label-start  &nb= sp;         rt-types:generalized-la= bel

-  |  +--rw label-end?  &nbs= p;          rt-types:generaliz= ed-label

 

+  +--rw label-restriction* [index]

+  |  +--rw index   = ;            &n= bsp;  uint32

+  |  +--rw inclusive-exclusive?&n= bsp;  enumeration

+  |  +--rw label-start=

+  |  |  +--rw te-label<= /o:p>

+  |  |     +-= -rw (technology)?

+  |  |     &= nbsp;  +--:(generic)

+  |  |     &= nbsp;     +--rw generic?   rt-types:gener= alized-label

+  |  +--rw label-end

+  |  |  +--rw te-label<= /o:p>

+  |  |     +-= -rw (technology)?

+  |  |     &= nbsp;  +--:(generic)

+  |  |     &= nbsp;     +--rw generic?   rt-types:gener= alized-label

 

 

Thanks,

- Xufeng

 

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Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCEFA7304@DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1C4F5AC6DE65ACB26E9940A7" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:27:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1C4F5AC6DE65ACB26E9940A7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication Thanks, Ricard El 11/12/2017 a les 2:42, Yemin (Amy) ha escrit: > > Hi, > > I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication. > > It provides a good fundamental framework which could be used by > different technology domains. > > BR, > > Amy > > *From:*Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Vishnu Pavan > Beeram > *Sent:* Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:58 PM > *To:* teas@ietf.org > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs > *Subject:* [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 > > All, > This starts a two-week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11. > > The working group last call ends on Dec 16th. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > Pavan and Lou. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas -- Dr. Ricard Vilalta Senior Researcher Optical Networks and Systems Department 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Hi all,

I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication

Thanks,

Ricard


El 11/12/2017 a les 2:42, Yemin (Amy) ha escrit:

Hi,

 

I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication.

It provides a good fundamental framework which could be used by different technology domains.

 

BR,

Amy

From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:58 PM
To: teas@ietf.org
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11

 

All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.



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-- 

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Optical Networks and Systems Department
Communication Networks Division
Centre Tecnològic de Telecomunicacions de Catalunya (CTTC/CERCA).
--------------1C4F5AC6DE65ACB26E9940A7-- From nobody Mon Dec 11 00:27:49 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E6D126C23 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 00:27:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.889 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.889 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p33BT8G9Wjch for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 00:27:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from cica-lavadora-l1mail3.puc.rediris.es (ci-l1mail3-out02a.puc.rediris.es [IPv6:2001:720:418:ca02::28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 650E512871F for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 00:27:40 -0800 (PST) X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2FOCQDqQC5a/9A+WFRbHAEBAQQBAQoBAYJKdGZ0J4QCmR2?= =?us-ascii?q?BTgkmlwwUgXgJChgBCoUYAoRkQBcBAQEBAQEBAQEDaCiCa0ssAQEBAQEBTwI+L?= =?us-ascii?q?AEBAQEDAQEhCkEbCxEEAQEoAwICJx8JCBMGAgEBiigBC6ccgicmij0BAQEBAQU?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBHAWDaIILgVaBaSkLgneEY3IWgkmCYwWjEYI5kmiCFoYSg2mHUo5fh?= =?us-ascii?q?3+BOyEBNyaBKTIacoIphFZAN4lnAQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="5.45,391,1508796000"; d="scan'208,217"; a="85690727" Received: from leo.cttc.es ([84.88.62.208]) by smtpout.puc.rediris.es with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 11 Dec 2017 09:27:37 +0100 Received: from [10.1.16.59] (pcrvilalta.cttc.es [10.1.16.59]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leo.cttc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F6041FCF9 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:27:36 +0100 (CET) To: teas@ietf.org References: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCEFA8319@DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com> From: Ricard Vilalta Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:27:38 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCEFA8319@DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------9DC0E6EE03895AC608A51128" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:27:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9DC0E6EE03895AC608A51128 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication Thanks, Ricard El 11/12/2017 a les 2:43, Yemin (Amy) ha escrit: > > Hi, > > I've also reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication. > > BR, > > Amy > > *From:*Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Vishnu Pavan > Beeram > *Sent:* Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:54 PM > *To:* teas@ietf.org > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs > *Subject:* [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 > > All, > This starts a two-week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 > > The working group last call ends on Dec 16th. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > Pavan and Lou. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas -- Dr. Ricard Vilalta Senior Researcher Optical Networks and Systems Department Communication Networks Division Centre Tecnològic de Telecomunicacions de Catalunya (CTTC/CERCA). --------------9DC0E6EE03895AC608A51128 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi all,

I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication

Thanks,

Ricard


El 11/12/2017 a les 2:43, Yemin (Amy) ha escrit:

Hi,

 

I've also reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication.

 

BR,

Amy

 

From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:54 PM
To: teas@ietf.org
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07

 

All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.



_______________________________________________
Teas mailing list
Teas@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas


-- 

Dr. Ricard Vilalta
Senior Researcher
Optical Networks and Systems Department
Communication Networks Division
Centre Tecnològic de Telecomunicacions de Catalunya (CTTC/CERCA).
--------------9DC0E6EE03895AC608A51128-- From nobody Mon Dec 11 00:30:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1C2128656 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 00:30:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.889 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.889 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wjEU4ULXCdRS for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 00:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from cica-lavadora-l1mail1v.puc.rediris.es (ci-l1mail1v-out02a.puc.rediris.es [IPv6:2001:720:418:ca02::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43503126C23 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 00:30:03 -0800 (PST) X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2FdAwBsQS5a/9A+WFRbHAEBAQQBAQoBAYJKdGZ0J4QCiiG?= =?us-ascii?q?OfIFOL5cMFIF4CQoYAQqFGAKEZD8YAQEBAQEBAQEBA2gogmtLLAEBAQEBAU8CP?= =?us-ascii?q?iwBAQEBAwEBIQpBGwsRBAEBKAMCAicfCQgTBgIBAYooAQunG4InJoo9AQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?FAQEBAQEBARwFg2iCC4FWgWkpgwKEY3IWgkmCYwWjEYI5kmiCFoYSg2mHUo5fh?= =?us-ascii?q?3+BOx86JoEpMhpygimEVkA3iWcBAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.45,391,1508796000"; d="scan'208,217";a="114559605" Received: from leo.cttc.es ([84.88.62.208]) by smtpout.puc.rediris.es with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 11 Dec 2017 09:28:05 +0100 Received: from [10.1.16.59] (pcrvilalta.cttc.es [10.1.16.59]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leo.cttc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2199D1FCF9 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:27:44 +0100 (CET) To: teas@ietf.org References: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCEFA8329@DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com> From: Ricard Vilalta Message-ID: <4aa10543-553b-e276-29a8-89a4f2e27d4e@cttc.es> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:27:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCEFA8329@DGGEMA501-MBX.china.huawei.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EC0CA046F395CF7B315D49FF" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:30:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EC0CA046F395CF7B315D49FF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication Thanks, Ricard El 11/12/2017 a les 2:43, Yemin (Amy) ha escrit: > > Hi, > > I've also reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication. > > BR, > > Amy > > *From:*Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Vishnu Pavan > Beeram > *Sent:* Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:59 PM > *To:* teas@ietf.org > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs > *Subject:* [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04 > > All, > This starts a two-week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04. > > The working group last call ends on Dec 16th. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > Pavan and Lou. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas -- Dr. Ricard Vilalta Senior Researcher Optical Networks and Systems Department Communication Networks Division Centre Tecnològic de Telecomunicacions de Catalunya (CTTC/CERCA). --------------EC0CA046F395CF7B315D49FF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi all,

I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication

Thanks,

Ricard


El 11/12/2017 a les 2:43, Yemin (Amy) ha escrit:

Hi,

 

I've also reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication.

 

BR,

Amy

 

From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:59 PM
To: teas@ietf.org
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Subject: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04

 

All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.



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--------------EC0CA046F395CF7B315D49FF-- From nobody Fri Dec 15 09:37:48 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1243B12422F; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 09:37:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.67.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk CC: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, teas-chairs@ietf.org, teas@ietf.org, Lou Berger , lberger@labn.net Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <151335946706.30378.11961376544055776818.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 09:37:47 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] Last Call: (Network Assigned Upstream-Label) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:37:47 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG (teas) to consider the following document: - 'Network Assigned Upstream-Label' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2017-12-29. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document discusses a Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Resource reSerVation Protocol with Traffic Engineering (RSVP- TE) mechanism that enables the network to assign an upstream label for a bidirectional Label Switched Path (LSP). This is useful in scenarios where a given node does not have sufficient information to assign the correct upstream label on its own and needs to rely on the downstream node to pick an appropriate label. This document updates RFCs 3471, 3473 and 6205 as it defines processing for a special label value in the UPSTREAM_LABEL object. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From nobody Fri Dec 15 13:03:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C18C129415 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:03:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5UGsU2OxHD8F for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lf0-x229.google.com (mail-lf0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DAFA127058 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lf0-x229.google.com with SMTP id g74so1901938lfk.7 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:03:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=iGLQWtO7ZpEFOmM2/DD5YClBzOlUM5UYugyhET/JnVg=; b=Jdw1ID36wmERwRJ+aZN92dwDRZDn/Vygwk9U60eDyZU7XnvlVog2vek+Q6tw0EwsHt F1txGEg+8rvXZbyAmj/J/jFcvrcuaYB0qh5fIw80uVvqnZJUAZFsXHXLsX8r2Q8oSKRj ITEPKgZ+Hsv+4GSqbH5sOXBU7CwvWHQriuacVUJCpH11u+g8PUiJSfJ7bdfgUlOoLnM9 fu2XFBRLagMeGo309/rD/NQhn2bswkN2XtHpQikYoADsztuSkdojyWbYRvypGXHUcF/A 1cKl+dcpZu6rHoj+r4hG7+9mzyhYN6thWlPcDaQOb4WC4pkgX6yydJkzFeMSbAXKI8gB bwbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=iGLQWtO7ZpEFOmM2/DD5YClBzOlUM5UYugyhET/JnVg=; b=fO/uWS6M7d+IFT8QlCI7efrMW3g+iOtwvESPtrUuctMLwqm5rGoysVgLCceNvZiH9o KhaD/2r43VH6uiZ7PmRR+9e0ppBM+h997gR/znqY0BhcQqrEYmVcW2DFAn+3+vLBijph t/8JAkVH3atpjlWtGQSvsAKQGrwEDmq1y2OEyRMlD21rfy21WEO5hiGrMhJZ9fJTlQwf OnE1tWrMknTO0Wvd0Zgt+J/rO379urB5sEtXSNdNCHFvp1aek0+YJveLdvQvVrA96Qbs 4r9ZPDanAb9SX+AzrqHbWM9HTDbeyTnq9bbollRnreAvl8/Zp+uz1ZYyH89i5U4B2hGp e8jA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mIhreXsIPLeEu+unudRxS2QjqA5NjUcXL90DpO72UyTosbMA8UV Ar/0FbCrHOySLDd3UA8TOjcRi2mA2wqn6PHSgmY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBov6e067aweD1SS/n0V/4NR1LpBXI69d8hkqxI/iQ5F2QsylHgm/ha38W2OanQdQGfGfWxHHaZErGk3F4SviAOg= X-Received: by 10.46.1.18 with SMTP id 18mr6528195ljb.51.1513371783901; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:03:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.46.32.136 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:03:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <151311939159.30089.7162896333460285790.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Greg Mirsky Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 15:03:03 -0600 Message-ID: To: drafts-approval@iana.org, TEAS WG Cc: longhao@huawei.com, Alvaro Retana , Vishnu Pavan Beeram , Daniele Ceccarelli , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)" , Fatai Zhang , oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com, Lou Berger , "Yemin (Amy)" , Alia Atlas , "D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo" , "Shah, Himanshu" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1142ad4697b90d05606753bd" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] [IANA #992491] Protocol Action: 'OSPF-Traffic Engineering Link Availability Extension for Links with Variable Discrete Bandwidth' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-13.txt) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 21:03:08 -0000 --001a1142ad4697b90d05606753bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear TEAS Experts, et. al, I've refreshed my memory of the RFC 8258 that defined SCSI-TLV and the Generalized SCSI (Switching Capability Specific Information) TLV Types registry. The current registry has values 1 through 9 as unassigned and without any reference. Do you have plans to use these values in the future? And it would help me a great deal if you expand on references to allocated sub-TLV type values for RFC 7688 and RFC 7138. Do you have concern that the new Availability type may be used in the same TLV with them? I don't see that as possible scenario but I might be missing something here. Regards, Greg On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Amanda Baber via RT < drafts-approval@iana.org> wrote: > Dear Authors, > > This is the answer from the designated experts re: the use of value 10 > instead of value 1: > > > The short answer is to avoid the sub-tlv values used in RFC7688 (1-5) > > and 7138 (1-2) and it seemed better to start with 10 then 6. Also, if > > they want to discuss further, please ask them to send a message to the > > TEAS WG list. > > Can you review this registry action and below confirm that we've completed > it correctly? Please see the question below as well. > > We've added the following entry to the Generalized SCSI (Switching > Capability Specific Information) TLV Types registry: > > Value: 10 > SCSI-TLV: Availability > Switching Type: > Reference: [RFC-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-13] > > QUESTION: RFC 8258 states that "New allocation requests to this registry > must indicate the value or values to be used in the Switching Type column." > How should we fill in the column for this registration? Please note that > this field should be added to the IANA Considerations section. > > Please see > https://www.iana.org/assignments/gmpls-sig-parameters > > Once we have data for the Switching Type field, if this action is > otherwise correct, we'll tell the RFC Editor the actions are complete. > > Best regards, > > Amanda Baber > Lead IANA Services Specialist > --001a1142ad4697b90d05606753bd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear TEAS Experts, et. al,
I've refreshed my memor= y of the RFC 8258 that defined SCSI-TLV and the=C2=A0Generalized SCSI (Switching Capability Specific Informati= on) TLV Types registry. The current registry has values 1 through 9 as unas= signed and without any reference. Do you have plans to use these values in = the future? And it would help me a great deal if you expand on references t= o allocated sub-TLV type values for RFC 7688 and RFC 7138. Do you have conc= ern that the new Availability type may be used in the same TLV with them? I= don't see that as possible scenario but I might be missing something h= ere.

Regards,
= Greg

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:0= 3 PM, Amanda Baber via RT <drafts-approval@iana.org> = wrote:
Dear Authors,

This is the answer from the designated experts re: the use of value 10 inst= ead of value 1:

> The short answer is to avoid the sub-tlv values used in RFC7688 (1-5)<= br> > and 7138 (1-2) and it seemed better to start with 10 then 6.=C2=A0 Als= o, if
> they want to discuss further, please ask them to send a message to the=
> TEAS WG list.

Can you review this registry action and below confirm that we've comple= ted it correctly? Please see the question below as well.

We've added the following entry to the Generalized SCSI (Switching Capa= bility Specific Information) TLV Types registry:

Value: 10
SCSI-TLV: Availability
Switching Type:
Reference: [RFC-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-13]

QUESTION: RFC 8258 states that "New allocation requests to this regist= ry must indicate the value or values to be used in the Switching Type colum= n." How should we fill in the column for this registration? Please not= e that this field should be added to the IANA Considerations section.

Please see
https://www.iana.org/assignments/gmpls-sig= -parameters

Once we have data for the Switching Type field, if this action is otherwise= correct, we'll tell the RFC Editor the actions are complete.

Best regards,

Amanda Baber
Lead IANA Services Specialist

--001a1142ad4697b90d05606753bd-- From nobody Fri Dec 15 17:14:57 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0C0126B7F; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:14:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.67.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151338689534.8440.10798253891982234982@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:14:55 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 01:14:55 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Network Assigned Upstream-Label Authors : Xian Zhang Vishnu Pavan Beeram Igor Bryskin Daniele Ceccarelli Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Filename : draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2017-12-15 Abstract: This document discusses a Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Resource reSerVation Protocol with Traffic Engineering (RSVP- TE) mechanism that enables the network to assign an upstream label for a bidirectional Label Switched Path (LSP). This is useful in scenarios where a given node does not have sufficient information to assign the correct upstream label on its own and needs to rely on the downstream node to pick an appropriate label. This document updates RFCs 3471, 3473 and 6205 as it defines processing for a special label value in the UPSTREAM_LABEL object. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sat Dec 16 08:56:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9379B124319; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 08:56:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.67.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151344336956.8374.13285875826202833023@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 08:56:09 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-ingress-protection-12.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:56:09 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Extensions to RSVP-TE for LSP Ingress FRR Protection Authors : Huaimo Chen Raveendra Torvi Filename : draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-ingress-protection-12.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2017-12-16 Abstract: This document describes extensions to Resource Reservation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) for locally protecting the ingress node of a Point-to-Point (P2P) or Point-to-Multipoint (P2MP) Traffic Engineered (TE) Label Switched Path (LSP). 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[108.78.210.25]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 126sm6535572iov.21.2017.12.18.04.52.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Dec 2017 04:52:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Russ White" <7riw77@gmail.com> To: Cc: , , Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 07:52:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01b601d377ff$1112ffe0$3338ffa0$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdN3/sfZnHBy/1KtToqJJs8niFYu4Q== Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] RtgDir review: Extensions to RSVP-TE for LSP Egress Local Protection X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:52:37 -0000 Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. = The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related = drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and = sometimes on special request. 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Minor Issues: No minor issues found. /r From nobody Tue Dec 19 20:46:04 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C624120726; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:46:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.68.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151374516236.2563.7019967250386930426@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:46:02 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-10.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 04:46:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Traffic Engineering Tunnels and Interfaces Authors : Tarek Saad Rakesh Gandhi Xufeng Liu Vishnu Pavan Beeram Himanshu Shah Igor Bryskin Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-10.txt Pages : 151 Date : 2017-12-19 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for the configuration and management of Traffic Engineering (TE) interfaces, tunnels and Label Switched Paths (LSPs). The model is divided into YANG modules that classify data into generic, device-specific, technology agnostic, and technology-specific elements. The model also includes module(s) that contain reusable TE data types and data groupings. This model covers data for configuration, operational state, remote procedural calls, and event notifications. 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There were no issues raised on the mailing list (apart from an editorial nit). Authors, Please let the WG know if a new version of the document is needed before publication request is submitted. Thank You, Pavan and Lou. On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:53 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > This starts a two-week working group last call on > draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 > > The working group last call ends on Dec 16th. > Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and > believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > Pavan and Lou. > --089e082e0c24fe0ae00560c3d330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,
The WG LC on this document closed on Dec 16th.=C2=A0 There were no issues raised on th= e mailing list (apart from an editorial nit).

Authors,
Please let= the WG know if a new version of the docume= nt is needed before publication request is submitted.

Thank You,
Pavan and Lou.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:53 AM, Vishnu= Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-<= wbr>requirements-07

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

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All,
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Authors,
Please let the WG know if a new version of the document is needed before publicatio= n request is submitted.

Thank You,
Pavan and Lou.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Vishnu Pav= an Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

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All,
The WG LC on this document closed on Dec 16th.=C2=A0 There were no issues raised on th= e mailing list.

Authors,
Please let the WG know if a new version of the document is needed before publicatio= n request is submitted.

Thank You,
Pavan and Lou.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Vishnu Pav= an Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-i= nfo-model-04.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

--089e08288ef88e5b3a0560c3f5d7-- From nobody Wed Dec 20 05:22:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E08D126CC7; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:22:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.661 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.661 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, INVALID_MSGID=0.568, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uJeoUfjTfMvD; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 913BB120724; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id ADCC27A218C27; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:22:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.39) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:22:48 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.83]) by SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.4]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:22:39 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "teas@ietf.org" CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 Thread-Index: AQHTazpbrVSlPyIJW0WDD4ozhJ99F6NMueAA//+a4QE= Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:22:38 +0000 Message-ID: 8995BE0B-6695-40BF-8950-7A8DDD378282 References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_8995BE0B669540BF89507A8DDD378282_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:22:53 -0000 --_000_8995BE0B669540BF89507A8DDD378282_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pavan and Lou, There is no need for a new version of the document before the submission of= the publication request. Editorial nits can be fixed during the RFC proces= s. Thanks. Young (on behalf of co-authors). From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram To:teas@ietf.org, Cc:TEAS WG Chairs, Date:2017-12-20 05:25:00 Subject:Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 All, The WG LC on this document closed on Dec 16th. There were no issues raised= on the mailing list (apart from an editorial nit). Authors, Please let the WG know if a new version of the document is needed before pu= blication request is submitted. Thank You, Pavan and Lou. On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:53 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram > wrote: All, This starts a two-week working group last call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07 The working group last call ends on Dec 16th. Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! This is useful and important, even from authors. Thank you, Pavan and Lou. --_000_8995BE0B669540BF89507A8DDD378282_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Pavan and Lou,

There is no need for a new version of the document before the submission of= the publication request. Editorial nits can be fixed during the RFC proces= s.

Thanks.
Young (on behalf of co-authors).

From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram
To:teas@ietf.org,
Cc:TEAS WG Chairs,
Date:2017-12-20 05:25:00
Subject:Re: [Teas] WG Last Call = on draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07

All,
The WG LC on this document closed on Dec 16th.  There were no issues raised on th= e mailing list (apart from an editorial nit).

Authors,
Please let the WG know if a new version of = the document is needed before publication request is submitted.

Thank You,
Pavan and Lou.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:53 AM, Vishnu Pavan Bee= ram <vishnupavan@= gmail.com> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-requirements-07

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

--_000_8995BE0B669540BF89507A8DDD378282_-- From nobody Wed Dec 20 05:23:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA43112D946; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:23:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.661 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.661 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, INVALID_MSGID=0.568, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GaYiSwm5KFWv; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9FC7126BFD; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 63BE361AEB0; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:23:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:23:13 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.83]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.207]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:23:12 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "teas@ietf.org" CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04 Thread-Index: AQHTazsltLpP55mP706FlzGzBvJpJqNMvH6A//+YaQk= Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:23:11 +0000 Message-ID: 643BCE91-CDC6-4C7E-B031-2A1AD812439E References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_643BCE91CDC64C7EB0312A1AD812439E_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:23:18 -0000 --_000_643BCE91CDC64C7EB0312A1AD812439E_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pavan and Lou, There is no need for a new version of the document before the submission of= the publication request. Thanks. Young (on behalf of co-authors). From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram To:teas@ietf.org, Cc:TEAS WG Chairs, Date:2017-12-20 05:34:22 Subject:Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04 All, The WG LC on this document closed on Dec 16th. There were no issues raised= on the mailing list. Authors, Please let the WG know if a new version of the document is needed before pu= blication request is submitted. Thank You, Pavan and Lou. On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram > wrote: All, This starts a two-week working group last call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04. The working group last call ends on Dec 16th. Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! This is useful and important, even from authors. Thank you, Pavan and Lou. --_000_643BCE91CDC64C7EB0312A1AD812439E_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Pavan and Lou,

There is no need for a new version of the document before the submission of= the publication request.

Thanks.
Young (on behalf of co-authors).
From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram
To:teas@ietf.org,
Cc:TEAS WG Chairs,
Date:2017-12-20 05:34:22
Subject:Re: [Teas] WG Last Call = on draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04

All,
The WG LC on this document closed on Dec 16th.  There were no issues raised on th= e mailing list.

Authors,
Please let the WG know if a new version of = the document is needed before publication request is submitted.

Thank You,
Pavan and Lou.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Vishnu Pavan Bee= ram <vishnupavan@= gmail.com> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-info-model-04.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

--_000_643BCE91CDC64C7EB0312A1AD812439E_-- From nobody Wed Dec 20 05:24:08 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93691126BFD; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:24:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.661 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.661 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, INVALID_MSGID=0.568, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tJ9fGsGfyG8j; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26FBC126CC7; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id DF7D8D5EE2AB5; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:24:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:24:04 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.83]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.207]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:23:58 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "teas@ietf.org" CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 Thread-Index: AQHTazrjKmrh/eb4c0qd+06Qu9kav6NMuuMA//+aPNE= Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:23:58 +0000 Message-ID: 8391C965-AEB5-48BA-BED4-2216518EC06A References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_8391C965AEB548BABED42216518EC06A_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:24:08 -0000 --_000_8391C965AEB548BABED42216518EC06A_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pavan and Lou, There is no need for a new version of the document before the submission of= the publication request. Thanks. Young (on behalf of co-authors). From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram To:teas@ietf.org, Cc:TEAS WG Chairs, Date:2017-12-20 05:28:54 Subject:Re: [Teas] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11 All, The WG LC on this document closed on Dec 16th. There were no issues raised= on the mailing list. Authors, Please let the WG know if a new version of the document is needed before pu= blication request is submitted. Thank You, Pavan and Lou. On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram > wrote: All, This starts a two-week working group last call on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11. The working group last call ends on Dec 16th. Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list. Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! This is useful and important, even from authors. Thank you, Pavan and Lou. --_000_8391C965AEB548BABED42216518EC06A_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Pavan and Lou,

There is no need for a new version of the document before the submission of= the publication request.

Thanks.
Young (on behalf of co-authors).
From:Vishnu Pavan Beeram
To:teas@ietf.org,
Cc:TEAS WG Chairs,
Date:2017-12-20 05:28:54
Subject:Re: [Teas] WG Last Call = on draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11

All,
The WG LC on this document closed on Dec 16th.  There were no issues raised on th= e mailing list.

Authors,
Please let the WG know if a new version of = the document is needed before publication request is submitted.

Thank You,
Pavan and Lou.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Vishnu Pavan Bee= ram <vishnupavan@= gmail.com> wrote:
All,
This starts a two-week working group last call on
draft-ietf-teas-actn-framework-11.

The working group last call ends on Dec 16th.
Please send your comments to the TEAS mailing list.

Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and
believe it is ready for publication", are welcome!
This is useful and important, even from authors.

Thank you,
Pavan and Lou.

--_000_8391C965AEB548BABED42216518EC06A_-- From nobody Thu Dec 21 15:50:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B3712D875; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:49:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zoT8wnuIeqRW; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49EBD12DA12; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:49:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 1B621B81B04; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:49:25 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, teas@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20171221234925.1B621B81B04@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:49:25 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8283_on_An_Architecture_for_Use_of_PCE_and_t?= =?utf-8?q?he_PCE_Communication_Protocol_=28PCEP=29_in_a_Network_with_Cent?= =?utf-8?q?ral_Control?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 23:49:57 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8283 Title: An Architecture for Use of PCE and the PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) in a Network with Central Control Author: A. Farrel, Ed., Q. Zhao, Ed., Z. Li, C. Zhou Status: Informational Stream: IETF Date: December 2017 Mailbox: afarrel@juniper.net, quintin.zhao@huawei.com, lizhenbin@huawei.com, chao.zhou@cisco.com Pages: 25 Characters: 56368 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-teas-pce-central-control-05.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8283 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8283 The Path Computation Element (PCE) is a core component of Software- Defined Networking (SDN) systems. It can compute optimal paths for traffic across a network and can also update the paths to reflect changes in the network or traffic demands. PCE was developed to derive paths for MPLS Label Switched Paths (LSPs), which are supplied to the head end of the LSP using the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP). 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Please see if the responses above address your concerns. Please let us know if there are any issues with progressing this document. Regards, -Pavan On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:21 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi, > Please see below. > > On 11/13/2017 5:57 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > >> Mirja, Hi! >> >> Apologize for the delayed reply. >> Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB). >> >> Regards, >> -Pavan >> >> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) < >> ietf@kuehlewind.net > wrote: >> >> Hi Vishnu, >> >> I don=E2=80=99t think what you proposed is a clarification at all. R= F2961 >> clearly reads to me that you should not retry any more after the >> Rapid retry limit has been reached: >> >> >> "Rl is the maximum number of times a message will be >> transmitted without being acknowledged.=E2=80=9C >> >> > Please not that this section applies to "a message containing a MESSAGE_I= D > object with the ACK_Desired flag set" and > > The ACK_Desired flag will typically be set only in trigger messages. > > This means that these procedure does not apply to normal RSVP refresh > processing and that normal RFC2205 defined Refresh Processing or Summary > Refresh processing continues. > > >> [VPB] Yes. As per RFC2961, the retry limit (Rl) is the maximum number of >> times a message will be transmitted without being acknowledged. But this >> just governs the number of times you retransmit the message during the >> "rapid retransmission phase". >> > > RFC2961 is silent about what happens after the "rapid retransmission >> phase" is complete and this is the clarification that is being provided >> here in the draft. >> > > The draft is silent in general about anything that is *not* modified by > the draft. I think having the informative statement is appropriate. > > Note that the associated RSVP Path/Resv state doesn't get cleaned up afte= r >> the "rapid retransmission" phase is complete. So at each subsequent >> refresh-interval, the unacked Path/Resv message will be sent out again >> (note that if there is no change in the state, the same MESSAGE_ID would >> get used). This behavior has always existed in RSVP-TE implementations -= - >> so it is incorrect to deduce from the "RFC 2961" text above that the >> retransmission of the unacked Path/Resv will never happen after the "Rl"= is >> reached. >> >> > Agreed. > Lou > > >> Also RFC2961 suggests an initial Rf of 500ms with 7 retries and and >> delta of 2, that means you will see the following retries: >> >> 1. after 500ms >> 2. after 1000ms >> 3. after 2000ms >> 4. after 4000ms >> 5. after 8000ms >> 6. after 16000ms >> 7. after 32000ms >> >> and then give up. While you suggests to send all 300ms section >> afterwards forever. That is not acceptable and can lead to congestio= n. >> >> >> No, that is not what is being suggested. >> RFC2961 suggests an Rf of 500ms with 3 retries and a delta of 2. So the >> rapid retransmissions would be: >> 1. after 500ms >> 2. after 1000ms >> 3. after 2000ms. >> >> With the proposal in the draft, you would try 7 times and >> then stop the "rapid retransmission phase". So, what that means is that = the >> rapid retransmission phase lasts 31.5 seconds (first retry is after 500m= s >> and the seventh retry is after 32000ms). After this "rapid retransmissio= n >> phase" is complete, you keep sending the message out every 30000ms >> (30seconds is not 300ms) until an acknowledgement is received. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> >> Mirja >> >> >> >> >> > Am 05.10.2017 um 22:27 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram >> >: >> >> > >> > Mirja, Hi! >> > >> > This was discussed in my response to Elwyn. I apologize for not >> responding directly. >> > >> > RFC2961 doesn't discuss what to do with the retransmissions after >> the retry limit is reached. It doesn't discuss how retransmissions >> need to be paced after the rapid retries are stopped. Section 2.3 >> (ver 7) of the current draft clarifies this and proposes the use of >> a "not so rapid (30secs)" retransmission interval. >> > >> > There were a couple of questions from this section that you >> wanted to get discussed: >> > ---- >> > (1) Why is there no termination criteria specified? >> > There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages getting >> transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling >> behavior). All that is being discussed in this section is how these >> transmissions get paced after the rapid retry limit is reached. The >> slower timer transmission will go on until either an ack is received >> (at which point the regular "refresh interval" comes into play) or >> the corresponding LSP instance state is torn down. >> > >> > ---- >> > (2) Why couldn't the regular refresh interval be used for these >> un-acked retransmissions? >> > The primary goal of the retransmission is to eke out an >> acknowledgement from the neighbor as quickly as you can. You can use >> the same value as the the regular refresh interval provided it is >> small enough (like in the case of the conventional refresh interval >> of 30 secs) . However, we are recommending the use of a "large >> refresh interval" (20 mins) in the RI-RSVP technique -- we can't >> wait that long for retrying the transmission of an unacked message. >> > >> > Consider a rudimentary state machine with the following states >> (assuming the defaults suggested in the Appendix of the draft): >> > - first retransmit (exponential back off) >> > - second retransmit (exponential back off) >> > ... >> > - seventh retransmit (exponential back off) >> > - 30s retransmission >> > - 20m refresh (regular refresh timer) >> > >> > At any point when the Ack is received, you transition to the 20m >> refresh state. >> > >> > --- >> > >> > Do these two responses adequately answer your questions? >> > >> > Regards, >> > -Pavan >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) >> > wrote: >> > Hi Pavan, >> > >> > I don=E2=80=99t see any changes in the new version that addresses= may >> actual discuss on section 2.1.3 (now section 2.3). Can you please >> clarify? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Mirja >> > >> > >> > > Am 28.09.2017 um 05:45 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram >> >: >> > > >> > > Mirja, Hi! >> > > >> > > Thanks for the review. We just posted a new revision (-07) to >> address the Gen-Art review comments. Please go through the new diffs >> (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-s >> caling-rec-07 >> > caling-rec-07>) >> and let us know if additional changes are required. >> > > >> > > Also, please go through the responses provided to the other >> review comments and let us know if there are still any unanswered >> questions. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > -Pavan >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind >> > wrote: >> > > Mirja K=C3=BChlewind has entered the following ballot position = for >> > > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06: Discuss >> > > >> > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply >> to all >> > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to >> cut this >> > > introductory paragraph, however.) >> > > >> > > >> > > Please refer to >> https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >> >> > > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >> > > >> > > >> > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found >> here: >> > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec= / >> >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ---------- >> > > DISCUSS: >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ---------- >> > > >> > > I'm uncertain what section 2.1.3. actually recommends. My >> understanding is that >> > > it is recommend to still send retransmit some message even if >> the Rl was >> > > reached and to that every 30s basically forever. First of all I >> think this >> > > still needs a termination criteria when to stop to try to >> retransmit finally. >> > > And the I don't understand why this is needed, instead of e.g. >> just using a >> > > larger Rl value? Can you please clarify! >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ---------- >> > > COMMENT: >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ---------- >> > > >> > > I fully agree with the gan-art review (Thanks Elwyn!) and >> Alvaro, that this >> > > reads from time to time like a BCP but is actually a extension >> specification. I >> > > would strongly recommend to apply the changes proposed by the >> gen-art review, >> > > and there is also a very detailed list of nits/edits that >> should probably be >> > > applied. Please have a look at that! >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Teas mailing list >> > > Teas@ietf.org >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> >> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> >> --089e082e0c243524560560e8fbd5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mirja, Hi!

Please see if the r= esponses above address your concerns. Please let us know if there are any i= ssues with progressing this document.

Regards,
-Pavan=

On Mon,= Nov 13, 2017 at 4:21 AM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote= :
Hi,
Please see below.

On 11/13/2017 5:57 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
Mirja, Hi!

Apologize for the delayed reply.
Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB).

Regards,
-Pavan

 On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <ietf@kuehlewind.net <mail= to:ietf@kuehlewind= .net>> wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hi Vishnu,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t think what you proposed is a clarification at= all. RF2961
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 clearly reads to me that you should not retry any more after = the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rapid retry limit has been reached:


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Rl is the maximum number of times a message will be
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0transmitted wi= thout being acknowledged.=E2=80=9C


Please not that this section applies to "a message containing a MESSAG= E_ID object with the ACK_Desired flag set" and

The ACK_Desired flag will typically be set only in trigger messages.

This means that these procedure does not apply to normal RSVP refresh proce= ssing and that=C2=A0 normal RFC2205 defined Refresh Processing or Summary R= efresh processing continues.


[VPB] Yes. As per RFC2961, the retry limit (Rl) is the maximum number of ti= mes a message will be transmitted without being acknowledged. But this just= governs the number of times you retransmit the message during the "ra= pid retransmission phase".

RFC2961 is silent about what happens after the "rapid retransmission p= hase" is complete and this is the clarification that is being provided= here in the <scaling-rec> draft.

The draft is silent in general about anything that is *not* modified by the= draft.=C2=A0 I think having the informative statement is appropriate.

Note that the associated RSVP Path/Resv state doesn't get cleaned up af= ter the "rapid retransmission" phase is complete. So at each subs= equent refresh-interval, the unacked Path/Resv message will be sent out aga= in (note that if there is no change in the state, the same MESSAGE_ID would= get used). This behavior has always existed in RSVP-TE implementations -- = so it is incorrect to deduce from the "RFC 2961" text above that = the retransmission of the unacked Path/Resv will never happen after the &qu= ot;Rl" is reached.


Agreed.
Lou


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Also RFC2961 suggests an initial Rf of 500ms with 7 retries a= nd and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 delta of 2, that means you will see the following retries:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1. after 500ms
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2. after 1000ms
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 3. after 2000ms
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 4. after 4000ms
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 5. after 8000ms
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6. after 16000ms
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 7. after 32000ms

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and then give up. While you suggests to send all 300ms sectio= n
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 afterwards forever. That is not acceptable and can lead to co= ngestion.


No, that is not what is being suggested.
RFC2961 suggests an Rf of 500ms with 3 retries and a delta of 2. So the rap= id retransmissions would be:
1. after 500ms
2. after 1000ms
3. after 2000ms.

With the proposal in the <scaling-rec> draft, you would try 7 times a= nd then stop the "rapid retransmission phase". So, what that mean= s is that the rapid retransmission phase lasts 31.5 seconds (first retry is= after 500ms and the seventh retry is after 32000ms). After this "rapi= d retransmission phase" is complete, you keep sending the message out = every 30000ms (30seconds is not 300ms) until an acknowledgement is received= .

Hope this helps.



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mirja




=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Am 05.10.2017 um 22:27 schrieb Vishnu Pavan Beeram=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <vishnupavan@gmail.com <mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com>>:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Mirja, Hi!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> This was discussed in my response to Elwyn. I apol= ogize for not
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 responding directly.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> RFC2961 doesn't discuss what to do with the re= transmissions after
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the retry limit is reached. It doesn't discuss how retran= smissions
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 need to be paced after the rapid retries are stopped. Section= 2.3
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (ver 7) of the current draft clarifies this and proposes the = use of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 a "not so rapid (30secs)" retransmission interval.<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> There were a couple of questions from this section= that you
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 wanted to get discussed:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> ----
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> (1) Why is there no termination criteria specified= ?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> There is nothing new about Path and Resv messages = getting
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 transmitted indefinitely (this is normal soft-state signaling=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 behavior). All that is being discussed in this section is how= these
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 transmissions get paced after the rapid retry limit is reache= d. The
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 slower timer transmission will go on until either an ack is r= eceived
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (at which point the regular "refresh interval" come= s into play) or
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the corresponding LSP instance state is torn down.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> ----
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> (2) Why couldn't the regular refresh interval = be used for these
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 un-acked retransmissions?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> The primary goal of the retransmission is to eke o= ut an
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 acknowledgement from the neighbor as quickly as you can. You = can use
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the same value as the the regular refresh interval provided i= t is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 small enough (like in the case of the conventional refresh in= terval
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 of 30 secs) . However, we are recommending the use of a "= ;large
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 refresh interval" (20 mins) in the RI-RSVP technique -- = we can't
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 wait that long for retrying the transmission of an unacked me= ssage.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Consider a rudimentary state machine with the foll= owing states
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (assuming the defaults suggested in the Appendix of the draft= ):
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> - first retransmit (exponential back off)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> - second retransmit (exponential back off)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> ...
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> - seventh retransmit (exponential back off)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> - 30s retransmission
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> - 20m refresh (regular refresh timer)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> At any point when the Ack is received, you transit= ion to the 20m
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 refresh state.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> ---
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Do these two responses adequately answer your ques= tions?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Regards,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> -Pavan
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (= IETF)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <= ietf@kuehlewind.net <mailto:ietf@kuehlewind.net>> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Hi Pavan,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> I don=E2=80=99t see any changes in the new version= that addresses may
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 actual discuss on section 2.1.3 (now section 2.3). Can you pl= ease
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 clarify?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Thanks,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Mirja
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > Am 28.09.2017 um 05:45 schrieb Vishnu Pavan B= eeram
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <vishnupavan@gmail.com <mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com>>:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > Mirja, Hi!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > Thanks for the review. We just posted a new r= evision (-07) to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 address the Gen-Art review comments. Please go through the ne= w diffs
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (https://www= .ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-07
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <https://= www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-0= 7>)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and let us know if additional changes are required.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > Also, please go through the responses provide= d to the other
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 review comments and let us know if there are still any unansw= ered
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 questions.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > Regards,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > -Pavan
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Mirja K=C3= =BChlewind
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <= ietf@kuehlewind.net <mailto:ietf@kuehlewind.net>> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > Mirja K=C3=BChlewind has entered the followin= g ballot position for
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-06: = Discuss
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > When responding, please keep the subject line= intact and reply
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 to all
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > email addresses included in the To and CC lin= es. (Feel free to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 cut this
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > introductory paragraph, however.)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > Please refer to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/iesg/sta= tement/discuss-criteria.html
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <https://www.ietf.org/iesg= /statement/discuss-criteria.html>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and C= OMMENT positions.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > The document, along with other ballot positio= ns, can be found here:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://datatrack= er.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/d= oc/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec/>
=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --------------------------------------------------------= --------------
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > DISCUSS:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --------------------------------------------------------= --------------
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > I'm uncertain what section 2.1.3. actuall= y recommends. My
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 understanding is that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > it is recommend to still send retransmit some= message even if
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the Rl was
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > reached and to that every 30s basically forev= er. First of all I
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 think this
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > still needs a termination criteria when to st= op to try to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 retransmit finally.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > And the I don't understand why this is ne= eded, instead of e.g.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 just using a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > larger Rl value? Can you please clarify!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --------------------------------------------------------= --------------
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > COMMENT:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --------------------------------------------------------= --------------
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > I fully agree with the gan-art review (Thanks= Elwyn!) and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Alvaro, that this
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > reads from time to time like a BCP but is act= ually a extension
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 specification. I
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > would strongly recommend to apply the changes= proposed by the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 gen-art review,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > and there is also a very detailed list of nit= s/edits that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 should probably be
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > applied. Please have a look at that!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
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Please go through the Gen-Art Review thread. We concluded on that thread that this document does not update RFC2961. Please go through the latest rev (-08) and let us know if there are any further concerns with progressing this document. Regards, -Pavan On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Alvaro Retana (aretana) wrote: > Pavan: > > > > Hi! > > > > Thanks for the update! > > > > Maybe a nit, but I think it would be good to explicitly state that the > rfc2961 recommendation by themselves won=E2=80=99t do much. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Alvaro. > > > > On 9/27/17, 11:19 PM, "Vishnu Pavan Beeram" wrote= : > > > > > (1) This document seems to do two things: make a series of rfc2961 > recommendations, and introduce a couple of new techniques. What is not > clear > to me is whether the first part is independent of the second. Will the > implementation of Section 2.1. ("RFC2961 Specific" Recommendations) provi= de > scaling benefits on their own (i.e. without the new techniques)? If so, > please > add some text (maybe in the Introduction) to indicate that. > > > > [VPB] The implementation of the RFC2961 specific recommendations (Section > 2 in rev -07) alone will not provide any significant improvement to the > existing scaling numbers. > > > > --089e082c07ccf7e3790560e90918 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alvaro, Hi!

Please go through = the Gen-Art Review thread. We concluded on that thread that this document d= oes not update RFC2961. Please go through the latest rev (-08) and let us k= now if there are any further concerns with progressing this document.
Regards,
-Pavan

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Alvaro Retana (ar= etana) <aretana@cisco.com> wrote:

Pavan:

=C2=A0

Hi!

=C2=A0

Thanks for the update!

=C2=A0

Maybe a nit, but I think it would be good to explici= tly state that the rfc2961 recommendation by themselves won=E2=80=99t do mu= ch.

=C2=A0

Thanks!

=C2=A0

Alvaro.

=C2=A0

On 9/27/17, 11:19 PM, "Vishnu Pavan Beeram"= ; <vishnupava= n@gmail.com> wrote:

=C2=A0


(1) This document seems to do two things: make a series of rfc2961
recommendations, and introduce a couple of new techniques.=C2=A0 What is no= t clear
to me is whether the first part is independent of the second.=C2=A0 Will th= e
implementation of Section 2.1. ("RFC2961 Specific" Recommendation= s) provide
scaling benefits on their own (i.e. without the new techniques)?=C2=A0 If s= o, please
add some text (maybe in the Introduction) to indicate that.

=C2=A0

[VPB] The implementation of the RFC2961 specific rec= ommendations (Section 2 in rev -07) alone will not provide any significant = improvement to the existing scaling numbers.




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Please see if the responses above address your concerns. Please let us know if there are any issues with progressing this document. Regards, -Pavan On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Elwyn, Hi! > > Apologize for the delayed reply. > We posted a new rev (-08) to address the comments that have been raised so > far. Please do take a look at the diffs and see if your concerns are > adequately addressed. > > Please see inline for responses (prefixed [VPB]) > > Regards, > -Pavan > > Snipped.. > > >> >>> >> I think you should therefore make it explicit that a prerequisite >>> >> for your extensions is an implementation of the Capability object >>> >> as specified in RFC5063 (my proposal for s3) , making it clear >>> >> that this does not require any of the other functionality of RFC >>> >> 5063, especially no support for the S bit in the Capabilities. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capability Object" needs a separate >>> >> prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD take a >>> >> call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using >>> >> Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then >>> >> need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate section for >>> >> RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of >>> >> certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and "Node Hellos", >>> >> there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarified. >>> >> I think it would be useful to prospective implementors to have a very >> short statement either at the end of s1 or as a new section to say that you >> need to have the Capability Object implemented as this is not necessarily >> in a basic RSVP implementation or RSVP-TE implementation. Since this >> draft is about RSVP-TE deployments (RFC 3209) you get Node-Hellos >> automatically (and the RFC 4558 clarification is mentioned) and doesn't >> need to be called out explicitly. >> > > [VPB] We added a statement in Section 1 to make this explicit. > ** > > Snipped.. > >> >> >> >>> >> - Your response regarding what happens if a peer initially >>> >> acknowledges that it supports the new capabilities by setting the >>> >> I/F bits in the Capability and sends some messages with the >>> >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit set, but then stops setting the >>> >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit doesn't really address the problem. >>> >> Would this mean that the receiver should assume that the peer can >>> >> no longer support the extensions? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> [Pavan] Yes. >>> >> >>> >> Is this a permanent state or could the peer start setting the >>> >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit again and restore initial >>> >> functionality - or should this just not be allowed. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionality. >>> >> >>> >> I think you need to think through what happes in the various >>> >> possible cases and explain what an implementation should do in >>> >> each case. >>> >> What seems to be missing is what should be done if either or both of the >> two capabilities are active on the peer or some of its LSPs when the >> Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit is cleared in a message (which I think could >> be any message from the peer). If I understand correctly it is possible >> that RI-RSVP might have to be switched off and depending on where the >> RI-RSVP process had got to in terms of sending repeat PATH messages, it >> might be necessary to revert to standard refreshing procedures from part >> way through the revised procedure - I think you probably need to be clear >> about what you would do in terms of where to enter the default refresh >> procedure and whether this means the refresh interval should revert to a >> lower value. I am not sure whether immediately unthrottling the flow >> control would be desirable either! >> >> > [VPB] Inactivation of "Refresh-Reduction" Capability will immediately > inactivate both the "capabilities" discussed in the draft. This means that > the implementation would immediately fall back on to traditional non-2961 > RSVP procedures (and stop following the procedures outlined in sections 3 > and 4). We added an explicit statement to the draft saying that > "Inactivation of the RI-RSVP functionality MUST result in the use of the > traditional smaller refresh interval". We believe implementations don't > need any further guidance in order to cater to this "revert to traditional > procedures" requirement. Note that implementations today already know how > to handle "disabling/enabling" of the "Refresh-Reduction" capability knob > (this includes disabling/enabling per-session flow control). They already > know how to handle adjustments to "refresh-interval". > >> >> >>> >> >>> >> [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality >>> >> enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the >>> >> implementation does everything that is specified as required for the >>> >> given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation doesn't >>> >> employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'll try >>> >> and add some text to make this obvious. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> - So, I have done my homework and checked back on what happens >>> >> when there is no acknowledgement of refreshes. The relevant >>> >> parameter is the cleanup time. However, this leaves us with a >>> >> problem.. the cleanup time is typically set as a multiple of the >>> >> refresh interval (9 times seems to be the default) - indeed I see >>> >> that the interface configuration on a Juniper router (!) actually >>> >> sets it by asking for the multiple rather than an absolute value. >>> >> Wth the new dispensation in ths document, there are two time >>> >> periods involved: I think you do need to respecify how to >>> >> calculate a sensible cleanup interval, and note that the >>> >> retransmissions will then halt after this interval. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer >>> >> (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP >>> >> instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through >>> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01 >>> >> >> ietf.org_html_draft-2Dravisingh-2Dteas-2Drsvp-2Dsetup-2Dretr >>> y-2D01&d=DwMDaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoC >>> I&r=CFHVfW0WsgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=k7e- >>> cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=XXwwGPXiCQhVIgNDb >>> iHxKEuHs1fkmMoiGQsHcQ33ZQE&e=> >>> >> for a detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it >>> >> and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3) >>> >> that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from what you >>> >> are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not just >>> >> PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure >>> >> discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid >>> >> retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In Section >>> >> 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry limit is >>> >> reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid >>> >> retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this needs >>> >> to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding state >>> >> is torn down. >>> >> No. I am not talking about the setup-retry timer. I was thinking about >> the L value (the local state lifetime) as discussed in Section 3.7 of RFC >> 2205. This is usually defined in terms of a multiple of the refresh timer >> - s3 of the draft suggests that the refresh timer be configured to 20 >> minutes making the L value at least an hour in the default case. This >> would mean the slower refresh retries would go on for an hour which seems >> excessive. I suspect you need to specify an alternative algorithm for >> setting L. >> > > [VPB] There is really no need to specify a new algorithm for setting L. It > is understood that having a large refresh-interval will significantly > increase the L value. With the procedures defined for "RI-RSVP", we have > completely eliminated RSVP's reliance on refreshes and refresh-timeouts. A > smaller "L" value is important only if you are relying on refresh-timeouts > to clean up state. > > --94eb2c0ba778ca37010560e92231 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Elwyn, Hi!

Please see if the= responses above address your concerns.=20 Please let us know if there are any issues with progressing this=20 document.

Regards,
-Pavan
<= br>
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Vishnu Pavan= Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
Elwyn, Hi!<= br>
Apologize for the delayed reply.
We posted a new rev= (-08) to address the comments that have been raised so far. Please do take= a look at the diffs and see if your concerns are adequately addressed.
=
Please see inline for responses (prefixed [VPB])

Reg= ards,
-Pavan

Snipped..

>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think you should therefore ma= ke it explicit that a prerequisite
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for your extensions is an imple= mentation of the Capability object
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0as specified in RFC5063 (my pro= posal for s3) , making it clear
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that this does not require any = of the other functionality of RFC
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A05063, especially no support for= the S bit in the Capabilities.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] I'm not really sure that "Capabil= ity Object" needs a separate
>> prerequisite section. I'll let the Document-Shepherd and our AD take a
>> call on this. Please note that the document also talks about using
>> Node-ID hellos from RFC4558. Would "Node-Hellos/RFC4558" also then
>> need a separate prerequisite section? We added a separate section for
>> RFC2961 because there is a need to explicitly clarify the usage of
>> certain 2961 procedures. With "Capability Object" and "Node Hellos",
>> there isn't anything (IMHO) that needs to be explicitly clarified.
I think it would be useful to prospective implementors to have a very short statement either at the end of s1 or as a new section to say that you need to have the Capability Object implemented as this is not necessarily in a basic RSVP=C2=A0 implementation or RSVP-TE implementation.=C2=A0 Since this draft is about RSVP-TE deployments (RF= C 3209) you get Node-Hellos automatically (and the RFC 4558 clarification is mentioned) and doesn't need to be called out explicitly.

[VPB] We added a statement in Sec= tion 1 to make this explicit.
**

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>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0 Your response regarding= what happens if a peer initially
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0acknowledges that it supports t= he new capabilities by setting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I/F bits in the Capability and = sends some messages with the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit s= et, but then stops setting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit d= oesn't really address the problem.=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0Would this mean that the = receiver should assume that the peer can
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0no longer support the extension= s?=C2=A0
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] Yes.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Is this a permanent state or co= uld the peer start setting the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit a= gain and restore initial
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0functionality - or should this = just not be allowed.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] The peer can set the bit again and restore the functionality.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think you need to think throu= gh what happes in the various
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0possible cases and explain what= an implementation should do in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0each case.
 What seems to be missing is what should be done if either or both of the two capabilities are active on the peer or some of its LSPs when the=C2=A0 Refresh-Reduction-Capable bit is cleared in a message (which = I think could be any message from the peer).=C2=A0 If I understand correctly it is possible that RI-RSVP might have to be switched off and depending on where the RI-RSVP process had got to in terms of sending repeat PATH messages, it might be necessary to revert to standard refreshing procedures from part way through the revised procedure - I think you probably need to be clear about what you would do in terms of where to enter the default refresh procedure and whether this means the refresh interval should revert to a lower value.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am not sure whether immediately unthrottling the f= low control would be desirable either!


[VPB] Inactivation of "Refresh-Reduction" Capability will immedi= ately inactivate both the "capabilities" discussed in the draft. = This means that the implementation would immediately fall back on to tradit= ional non-2961 RSVP procedures (and stop following the procedures outlined = in sections 3 and 4). We= added an explicit statement to the draft saying that "Inactivation of= the RI-RSVP func= tionality MUST result in the use of the traditional smaller refresh interval". We belie= ve implementations don't need any further guidance in order to cater to= this "revert to traditional procedures" requirement. Note that i= mplementations today already know how to handle "disabling/enabling&qu= ot; of the "Refresh-Reduction" capability knob (this includes dis= abling/enabling per-session flow control). They already know how to handle = adjustments to "refresh-interval".
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] There are only two possibilities -- Is the functionality
>> enabled on the peer or is it not? If the functionality is enabled, the
>> implementation does everything that is specified as required for the
>> given technique. If it is not enabled, then the implementation doesn't
>> employ the technique and just behaves like it does today. We'll try
>> and add some text to make this obvious.
>> =C2=A0
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- So, I have done my homework a= nd checked back on what happens
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0when there is no acknowledgemen= t of refreshes. The relevant
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0parameter is the cleanup time.= =C2=A0 However, this leaves us with a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0problem.. the cleanup time is t= ypically set as a multiple of the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0refresh interval (9 times seems= to be the default) - indeed I see
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that the interface configuratio= n on a Juniper router (!) actually
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sets it by asking for the multi= ple rather than an absolute value.=C2=A0
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wth the new dispensation in ths= document, there are two time
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0periods involved:=C2=A0 I think= you do need to respecify how to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0calculate a sensible cleanup in= terval, and note that the
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0retransmissions will then halt = after this interval.
>>
>>
>> [Pavan] I think you are confusing this with the "setup retry" timer
>> (which comes into play when you signal the PATH setup of an LSP
>> instance and don't get a RESV back). Please go through
>> https:/= /tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ravisingh-teas-rsvp-setup-retry-01=
>> <https://urldefen= se.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-= 2Dravisingh-2Dteas-2Drsvp-2Dsetup-2Dretry-2D01&d=3DDwMDaQ&= ;c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DCFHVfW0W= sgxSqM6wTJiWE5evUJAdlUl1fm7E0WVbiS8&m=3Dk7e-cloxf90XW9b_KRgpp= 7fxJRT4Q-f-_Nor0jTe8fg&s=3DXXwwGPXiCQhVIgNDbiHxKEuHs1fkmMoiGQ= sHcQ33ZQE&e=3D>
>> for a detailed account of setup retry timer, issues associated with it
>> and recommended practices. The staged retransmission (Section 2.3)
>> that comes into play when there is no ACK is different from what you
>> are alluding to -- it is meant for any message seeking ACK (not just
>> PATH). This is very specific to the exponential back-off procedure
>> discussed in Section 6 of RFC2961. As per RFC2961, the rapid
>> retransmissions stop after we reach a certain retry limit. In Section
>> 2.3, we are clarifying what needs to be done after this Retry limit is
>> reached --- the recommendation is to fall back on a not so rapid
>> retransmission interval. As a I said in my previous email, this needs
>> to be done until either an ACK is received or the corresponding state
>> is torn down.
No.=C2=A0 I am not talking about the setup-retry timer.=C2=A0 I was thi= nking about the L value (the local state lifetime) as discussed in Section 3.7 of RFC 2205.=C2=A0 This is usually defined in terms of a multiple o= f the refresh timer - s3 of the draft suggests that the refresh timer be configured to 20 minutes making the L value at least an hour in the default case.=C2=A0 This would mean the slower refresh retries woul= d go on for an hour which seems excessive.=C2=A0 I suspect you need to specify an alternative algorithm for setting L.

[VPB] There is really no need to specify a new algorithm for settin= g L. It is understood that having a large refresh-interval will significant= ly increase the L value. With the procedures defined for "RI-RSVP"= ;, we have completely eliminated RSVP's reliance on refreshes and refre= sh-timeouts. A smaller "L" value is important only if you are rel= ying on refresh-timeouts to clean up state.


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On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 2:48 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Alvaro, Hi! > > Please go through the Gen-Art Review thread. We concluded on that thread > that this document does not update RFC2961. Please go through the latest > rev (-08) and let us know if there are any further concerns with > progressing this document. > > Regards, > -Pavan > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Alvaro Retana (aretana) < > aretana@cisco.com> wrote: > >> Pavan: >> >> >> >> Hi! >> >> >> >> Thanks for the update! >> >> >> >> Maybe a nit, but I think it would be good to explicitly state that the >> rfc2961 recommendation by themselves won=E2=80=99t do much. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Alvaro. >> >> >> >> On 9/27/17, 11:19 PM, "Vishnu Pavan Beeram" >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> (1) This document seems to do two things: make a series of rfc2961 >> recommendations, and introduce a couple of new techniques. What is not >> clear >> to me is whether the first part is independent of the second. Will the >> implementation of Section 2.1. ("RFC2961 Specific" Recommendations) >> provide >> scaling benefits on their own (i.e. without the new techniques)? If so, >> please >> add some text (maybe in the Introduction) to indicate that. >> >> >> >> [VPB] The implementation of the RFC2961 specific recommendations (Sectio= n >> 2 in rev -07) alone will not provide any significant improvement to the >> existing scaling numbers. >> >> >> >> > --f403045c56e6b936ab0560e92d51 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Fixing Alvaro's email-ID.

-Pava= n
ps: Sorry for the spam.

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 2:48 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <= span dir=3D"ltr"><vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
Alvaro, Hi!

Please go = through the Gen-Art Review thread. We concluded on that thread that this do= cument does not update RFC2961. Please go through the latest rev (-08) and = let us know if there are any further concerns with progressing this documen= t.

Regards,
-Pavan

On= Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Alvaro Retana (aretana) &l= t;aretana@cisco.com<= /a>> wrote:

Pavan:

=C2=A0

Hi!

=C2=A0

Thanks for the update!

=C2=A0

Maybe a nit, but I think it would be good to explici= tly state that the rfc2961 recommendation by themselves won=E2=80=99t do mu= ch.

=C2=A0

Thanks!

=C2=A0

Alvaro.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0


(1) This document seems to do two things: make a series of rfc2961
recommendations, and introduce a couple of new techniques.=C2=A0 What is no= t clear
to me is whether the first part is independent of the second.=C2=A0 Will th= e
implementation of Section 2.1. ("RFC2961 Specific" Recommendation= s) provide
scaling benefits on their own (i.e. without the new techniques)?=C2=A0 If s= o, please
add some text (maybe in the Introduction) to indicate that.

=C2=A0

[VPB] The implementation of the RFC2961 specific rec= ommendations (Section 2 in rev -07) alone will not provide any significant = improvement to the existing scaling numbers.





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From nobody Fri Dec 22 10:47:35 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3B51241F3; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:47:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.68.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151396845435.27989.4152133048355753705.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:47:34 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] The TEAS WG has placed draft-liu-teas-yang-l3-te-topo in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 18:47:34 -0000 The TEAS WG has placed draft-liu-teas-yang-l3-te-topo in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Lou Berger) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-teas-yang-l3-te-topo/ Comment: IPR Poll started: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/3gwmuJshAiaDMrff_2bSb9gAsb4 Pending responses: xufeng_liu: igor.bryskin: vbeeram: tsaad: hshah: oscar.gonzalezdedios: From nobody Fri Dec 22 10:51:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC701200B9 for ; 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Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, TEAS WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. 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Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends January 12, due to the holidays. Thanks, Lou _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Fri Dec 22 10:55:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AF2129C56; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:54:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.68.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151396889998.27993.7725449198678133936.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:54:59 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] The TEAS WG has placed draft-liu-teas-yang-sr-te-topo in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 18:55:00 -0000 The TEAS WG has placed draft-liu-teas-yang-sr-te-topo in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Lou Berger) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-teas-yang-sr-te-topo/ Comment: IPR Poll started: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/Zm4zYDSZ48KqUrlTIho9Agv8aFM Pending responses: xufeng_liu: igor.bryskin: vbeeram: tsaad: hshah: stephane.litkowski: From nobody Fri Dec 22 12:05:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA84F124C27; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:05:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.23 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.23 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RwrKRtdzIbgH; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4E9C1200B9; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 955B955596BB; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:04:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:04:56 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.83]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.207]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:04:51 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: Lou Berger , TEAS WG CC: TEAS WG Chairs Thread-Topic: [Teas] WG adoption poll draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-modeling-01 (extended) Thread-Index: AQHTe1N8DwSnWdkpbEeulZxf4lAFU6NPyTBQ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:04:49 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CF7A761@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <20f40674-428e-ecbf-9074-a26eaa0ed35c@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <20f40674-428e-ecbf-9074-a26eaa0ed35c@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.52.43.136] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-modeling-01 (extended) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:05:02 -0000 Yes/Support. Young -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:34 PM To: TEAS WG Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-mode= ling-01 (extended) All, This is start of a *three* week poll on making draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-modeling-01 a working group document.= Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppo= rt". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends January 12, due to the holidays. Thanks, Lou _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Fri Dec 22 16:07:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9360120454 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 16:07:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.229 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.229 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s5vMkQ0oWHZW for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 16:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 655C11201F2 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 16:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id D2E2B72EA3941 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 00:06:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 00:06:59 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.83]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.207]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 16:06:51 -0800 From: Igor Bryskin To: "lberger@labn.net" , "xufeng_liu@jabil.com" , Igor Bryskin , "vbeeram@juniper.net" , "tsaad@cisco.com" , "hshah@ciena.com" , "stephane.litkowski@orange.com" CC: "teas@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-liu-teas-yang-sr-te-topo Thread-Index: AQHTe1X7WF7DIjr7VUax9snW5of7YqNQDTED Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 00:06:51 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_etPan5a3d9e3f5aaafcdffa1localhost_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-liu-teas-yang-sr-te-topo X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 00:07:04 -0000 --_000_etPan5a3d9e3f5aaafcdffa1localhost_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Igor From:Lou Berger To:xufeng_liu@jabil.com,Igor Bryskin,vbeeram@juniper.net,tsaad@cisco.com,hs= hah@ciena.com,stephane.litkowski@orange.com, Cc:TEAS WG, Date:2017-12-22 13:52:15 Subject:[Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-liu-teas-yang-sr-te-topo Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of preparation for WG Adoption Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. 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No, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Igor
From:Lou Berger
To:xufeng_liu@jabil.com,Igor Bry= skin,vbeeram@juniper.net,tsaad@cisco.com,hshah@ciena.com,stephane.litkowski= @orange.com,
Cc:TEAS WG,
Date:2017-12-22 13:52:15
Subject:[Teas] Regarding IPR on = draft-liu-teas-yang-sr-te-topo


Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of preparation for WG Adoption

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
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If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
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and
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Fri, 22 Dec 2017 17:26:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.170.203 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 17:26:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:26:49 -0500 Message-ID: To: Lou Berger Cc: Xufeng Liu , Igor Bryskin , Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "Tarek Saad (tsaad)" , "Shah, Himanshu" , stephane.litkowski@orange.com, TEAS WG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045c56e6c6235f0560f7d3f0" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-liu-teas-yang-sr-te-topo X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 01:26:53 -0000 --f403045c56e6c6235f0560f7d3f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Regards, -Pavan On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of preparation for WG Adoption > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S > TO LINES. > > If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed > as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under > the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are > aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from > participating in any contribution or discussion related to your > undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above > and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > TEAS WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --f403045c56e6c6235f0560f7d3f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to= this draft.

Regards,
-Pavan

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 1:44 PM,= Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of preparation for WG Adoption

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S<= br> TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/= group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
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Regards, -Pavan On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of preparation for WG Adoption > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. 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For more information, please see the RFCs listed above > and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > TEAS WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --94eb2c1def08f8c3b90560f7d5f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to= this draft.

Regards,
-Pavan

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Lou= Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of preparation for WG Adoption

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S<= br> TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/= group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
response.



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Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 14:17:46 -0000 Yes/support. This draft is very helpful in illustrating various use cases a= nd the use of YANG model segments to support those use cases. Its initial v= ersion was used as an instrumental material for our recent multi-vendor int= eroperability testing. I believe it serves the interest of the community an= d hence is desirable to be adopted by the WG. Thanks, Aihua -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 1:34 PM To: TEAS WG Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-mode= ling-01 (extended) All, This is start of a *three* week poll on making draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-modeling-01 a working group document.= Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppo= rt". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. = If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address= ed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends January 12, due to the holidays. Thanks, Lou _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Thu Dec 28 01:30:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC191241F5; Thu, 28 Dec 2017 01:30:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stewart Bryant To: Cc: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label.all@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.68.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151445342643.3325.3859654932108556910@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 01:30:26 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 09:30:26 -0000 Reviewer: Stewart Bryant Review result: Ready I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10 Reviewer: Stewart Bryant Review Date: 2017-12-28 IETF LC End Date: 2017-12-29 IESG Telechat date: 2018-01-11 Summary: A clear will written document. Ready for publication. Major issues: None Minor issues: Not an issue with the design per se, but there is a school of thought that says do not use all zeros or all ones in a protocol without good reason since these are common uninitialized variable values. If the designers have scope to do so they might consider picking another value. Nits/editorial comments: Slightly strange order of final sections. Most readers will want to look at IANA and Security rather than worrying about the contributors. 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Thanks for the review! Please see inline (prefixed VPB). Regards, -Pavan On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > Reviewer: Stewart Bryant > Review result: Ready > > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed > by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just > like any other last call comments. > > For more information, please see the FAQ at > > . > > Document: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10 > Reviewer: Stewart Bryant > Review Date: 2017-12-28 > IETF LC End Date: 2017-12-29 > IESG Telechat date: 2018-01-11 > > Summary: A clear will written document. Ready for publication. > > Major issues: None > > Minor issues: Not an issue with the design per se, but there is a school of > thought that says do not use all zeros or all ones in a protocol without > good > reason since these are common uninitialized variable values. If the > designers > have scope to do so they might consider picking another value. > > [VPB] The authors did discuss this during the individual-draft stage. The "all-ones" pattern was chosen because it was unlikely to conflict with any of the labels that are already in use (the section on "backwards compatibility" discusses this). Since there hasn't been any strong resistance to the use of this value, the authors would like to retain the current value. > Nits/editorial comments: > > Slightly strange order of final sections. Most readers will want to look at > IANA and Security rather than worrying about the contributors. > [VPB] This order of sections is based on the template that is currently being used. We will fix it in the next revision. > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --94eb2c11a66c2b02c805617c77c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stewart, Hi!

Thanks for t= he review!

Please see inline (prefixed VPB).

Rega= rds,
-Pavan

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Stewart Br= yant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> wrote:
Reviewer: Stewart Bryant
Review result: Ready

I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
by the IESG for the IETF Chair.=C2=A0 Please treat these comments just
like any other last call comments.

For more information, please see the FAQ at

<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenArtfaq<= /a>>.

Document: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10
Reviewer: Stewart Bryant
Review Date: 2017-12-28
IETF LC End Date: 2017-12-29
IESG Telechat date: 2018-01-11

Summary: A clear will written document. Ready for publication.

Major issues: None

Minor issues: Not an issue with the design per se, but there is a school of=
thought that says do not use all zeros or all ones in a protocol without go= od
reason since these are common uninitialized variable values. If the designe= rs
have scope to do so they might consider picking another value.


[VPB] The authors did discuss this dur= ing the individual-draft stage. The "all-ones" pattern was chosen= because it was unlikely to conflict with any of the labels that are alread= y in use (the section on "backwards compatibility" discusses this= ). Since there hasn't been any strong resistance to the use of this val= ue, the authors would like to retain the current value.
=C2= =A0
Nits/editorial comments:

Slightly strange order of final sections. Most readers will want to look at=
IANA and Security rather than worrying about the contributors.


--94eb2c11a66c2b02c805617c77c5-- From nobody Fri Dec 29 15:26:24 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2956C1200F1; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 15:26:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Spencer Dawkins To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label@ietf.org, Lou Berger , teas-chairs@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net, teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.68.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151458997712.3953.9085400440972696473.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 15:26:17 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 23:26:17 -0000 Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I believe you when you say this As per the existing setup procedure outlined for a bidirectional LSP, each upstream node must allocate a valid upstream label on the outgoing interface before sending the initial Path message downstream. However, there are certain scenarios where it is not desirable or possible for a given node to pick the upstream label on its own. This document defines the protocol mechanism to be used in such scenarios. but I wonder if you could give an example or two of those "certain scenarios", so that readers would know whether they need to keep reading. After reading all of Section 3, I found myself wondering whether that use case was one of the "certain scenarios", but I couldn't tell for certain. If it is, even a forward reference to Section 3 in the Introduction would have helped me. 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Thanks for the review. Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB). Regards, -Pavan On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Spencer Dawkins < spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network- > assigned-upstream-label/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I believe you when you say this > > As per the existing > setup procedure outlined for a bidirectional LSP, each upstream node > must allocate a valid upstream label on the outgoing interface before > sending the initial Path message downstream. However, there are > certain scenarios where it is not desirable or possible for a given > node to pick the upstream label on its own. This document defines > the protocol mechanism to be used in such scenarios. > > but I wonder if you could give an example or two of those "certain > scenarios", > so that readers would know whether they need to keep reading. > > After reading all of Section 3, I found myself wondering whether that use > case > was one of the "certain scenarios", but I couldn't tell for certain. If it > is, > even a forward reference to Section 3 in the Introduction would have > helped me. > > [VPB] Yes, the use case specified in Section 3 is an example of a scenario where it is not desirable for a given node to pick the upstream label on its own. We will add a forward reference to Section 3 in the Introduction. > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --089e082e0c24ae36de056184f78b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Spencer, Hi!

Thanks for the re= view. Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB).

Regards,=
-Pavan

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Spencer Dawkins <<= a href=3D"mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">spencerda= wkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.ietf.org/iesg/<= wbr>statement/discuss-criteria.html
for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.


The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
https://datatracker= .ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label/



-----------------------------------------------------------------= -----
COMMENT:
-----------------------------------------------------------------= -----

I believe you when you say this

=C2=A0 =C2=A0As per the existing
=C2=A0 =C2=A0setup procedure outlined for a bidirectional LSP, each upstrea= m node
=C2=A0 =C2=A0must allocate a valid upstream label on the outgoing interface= before
=C2=A0 =C2=A0sending the initial Path message downstream.=C2=A0 However, th= ere are
=C2=A0 =C2=A0certain scenarios where it is not desirable or possible for a = given
=C2=A0 =C2=A0node to pick the upstream label on its own.=C2=A0 This documen= t defines
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the protocol mechanism to be used in such scenarios.

but I wonder if you could give an example or two of those "certain sce= narios",
so that readers would know whether they need to keep reading.

After reading all of Section 3, I found myself wondering whether that use c= ase
was one of the "certain scenarios", but I couldn't tell for c= ertain. If it is,
even a forward reference to Section 3 in the Introduction would have helped= me.



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--089e082e0c24ae36de056184f78b-- From nobody Fri Dec 29 19:03:50 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BCC126C19; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:03:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nwwtz53lFNLQ; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yb0-x22b.google.com (mail-yb0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE855126B71; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yb0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id w1so16508519ybe.10; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:03:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=E6650c1vi5JahKVjQyXKGRH0WwGHZjKAYSGXbNa4ZQE=; b=p+Sn4MHnKxEt24xLXhByx7xr2ehRw4fNj/fxaTkxj0S1s6uKVhoHg7egKIajfkEJa4 uVTADrOp1///sIpSw4j4cmW8lhp2Nv+1u+qPccPrzJbBX+Ee/OdvjBR0RDY7e8ja1ytS uwCtw2ZSHbL2QLAVr2uHJzMH+tF6TdY2+tEmrx9pQMLAgd4BQrh8b2mGQA3OreO2Uq2O gi5UYoKxqVlqnC4aYT7Xy9Wa2kdM/IsnD5IoY/vLu96mHUclKktkb5VGFFpeCN+L/0Oo jGSdH6UVrLuRZjAAJf4S+rdhrrmT5zkkWadU2bTwWEl85tyRzIvP1WtrH8qruT0tSnt8 fNfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=E6650c1vi5JahKVjQyXKGRH0WwGHZjKAYSGXbNa4ZQE=; b=db3kbsqSGVJg/BQkCfEMelzGgYVInOfrjlBf+SpL71Slb6TXY6u7USLHl0CEwRlXV9 fGHytVhX5jegczV6iC/+NjKO5Qsleac2E6r0UURh/Y+DYmtybcNQbQEsolmp/L6fabyZ nwhzzW8jstlZKkVk/fMIMOxjW6WgGhOtkkHT1lyXETbw9EMJR/pfx4msYgrBk6XEiRv6 9JuUL6VijV+273nFrVpRlJh5Cu2KsboJhqLRk42H9gnmAcgUR59ErH0H6TsNR5AQ92HW KEGN3SCY2fycPUa8EDMdvfL7D+0QPBLdbHxgAm0FctMOaAqiXMspeU8UTHq4GECnWsUp cQDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mIUBV+FWQewuCRyMWKseUeyXNWyi1VfYFQgkCtFRkzWhIUer67j 5fRl2/kHJawEBkFbY5OkPTS3dEaWGtkXAMB+Uk8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBouLMYx1X82X0FFjvgJM6yrQaxeBKJE3DOU9BIEhz2y3EN0wByPsuxmZyEefZZex8s+AoUygXwPOTQBswleRqTE= X-Received: by 10.37.97.133 with SMTP id v127mr15850906ybb.354.1514603020861; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:03:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.132.6 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:03:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <151458997712.3953.9085400440972696473.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:03:40 -0600 Message-ID: To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Cc: The IESG , draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label@ietf.org, Lou Berger , TEAS WG Chairs , TEAS WG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1142e01608c6d4056185ff32" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:03:44 -0000 --001a1142e01608c6d4056185ff32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Pavan, On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Spencer, Hi! > > Thanks for the review. Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB). > > Regards, > -Pavan > > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Spencer Dawkins < > spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10: No Objection >> >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this >> introductory paragraph, however.) >> >> >> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >> >> >> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-ass >> igned-upstream-label/ >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> COMMENT: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> I believe you when you say this >> >> As per the existing >> setup procedure outlined for a bidirectional LSP, each upstream node >> must allocate a valid upstream label on the outgoing interface before >> sending the initial Path message downstream. However, there are >> certain scenarios where it is not desirable or possible for a given >> node to pick the upstream label on its own. This document defines >> the protocol mechanism to be used in such scenarios. >> >> but I wonder if you could give an example or two of those "certain >> scenarios", >> so that readers would know whether they need to keep reading. >> >> After reading all of Section 3, I found myself wondering whether that use >> case >> was one of the "certain scenarios", but I couldn't tell for certain. If >> it is, >> even a forward reference to Section 3 in the Introduction would have >> helped me. >> >> > [VPB] Yes, the use case specified in Section 3 is an example of a scenario > where it is not desirable for a given node to pick the upstream label on > its own. We will add a forward reference to Section 3 in the Introduction. > That would help me a lot. Thanks! Spencer > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> > > --001a1142e01608c6d4056185ff32 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Pavan,

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vi= shnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
Spencer, Hi!

Thanks for the r= eview. Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB).

Regards= ,
-Pavan

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Spencer Dawkins= <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ba= llot position for
draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10: No Objection

When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
introductory paragraph, however.)


Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/s= tatement/discuss-criteria.html
for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.


The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
https://datatracker= .ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label/



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I believe you when you say this

=C2=A0 =C2=A0As per the existing
=C2=A0 =C2=A0setup procedure outlined for a bidirectional LSP, each upstrea= m node
=C2=A0 =C2=A0must allocate a valid upstream label on the outgoing interface= before
=C2=A0 =C2=A0sending the initial Path message downstream.=C2=A0 However, th= ere are
=C2=A0 =C2=A0certain scenarios where it is not desirable or possible for a = given
=C2=A0 =C2=A0node to pick the upstream label on its own.=C2=A0 This documen= t defines
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the protocol mechanism to be used in such scenarios.

but I wonder if you could give an example or two of those "certain sce= narios",
so that readers would know whether they need to keep reading.

After reading all of Section 3, I found myself wondering whether that use c= ase
was one of the "certain scenarios", but I couldn't tell for c= ertain. If it is,
even a forward reference to Section 3 in the Introduction would have helped= me.




<= div>Thanks!


--001a1142e01608c6d4056185ff32-- From nobody Sat Dec 30 03:01:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951AF1241F5; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:01:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.68.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151463170154.4070.2667494527916365983@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:01:41 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-11.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 11:01:42 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Network Assigned Upstream-Label Authors : Xian Zhang Vishnu Pavan Beeram Igor Bryskin Daniele Ceccarelli Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Filename : draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-11.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2017-12-30 Abstract: This document discusses a Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Resource reSerVation Protocol with Traffic Engineering (RSVP- TE) mechanism that enables the network to assign an upstream label for a bidirectional Label Switched Path (LSP). This is useful in scenarios where a given node does not have sufficient information to assign the correct upstream label on its own and needs to rely on the downstream node to pick an appropriate label. This document updates RFCs 3471, 3473 and 6205 as it defines processing for a special label value in the UPSTREAM_LABEL object. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-11 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-11 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Regards, -Pavan On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF < spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Pavan, > > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram < > vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Spencer, Hi! >> >> Thanks for the review. Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB). >> >> Regards, >> -Pavan >> >> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Spencer Dawkins < >> spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for >>> draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10: No Objection >>> >>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this >>> introductory paragraph, however.) >>> >>> >>> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/stat >>> ement/discuss-criteria.html >>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >>> >>> >>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-ass >>> igned-upstream-label/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> COMMENT: >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> I believe you when you say this >>> >>> As per the existing >>> setup procedure outlined for a bidirectional LSP, each upstream node >>> must allocate a valid upstream label on the outgoing interface before >>> sending the initial Path message downstream. However, there are >>> certain scenarios where it is not desirable or possible for a given >>> node to pick the upstream label on its own. This document defines >>> the protocol mechanism to be used in such scenarios. >>> >>> but I wonder if you could give an example or two of those "certain >>> scenarios", >>> so that readers would know whether they need to keep reading. >>> >>> After reading all of Section 3, I found myself wondering whether that >>> use case >>> was one of the "certain scenarios", but I couldn't tell for certain. If >>> it is, >>> even a forward reference to Section 3 in the Introduction would have >>> helped me. >>> >>> >> [VPB] Yes, the use case specified in Section 3 is an example of a >> scenario where it is not desirable for a given node to pick the upstream >> label on its own. We will add a forward reference to Section 3 in the >> Introduction. >> > > That would help me a lot. > > Thanks! > > Spencer > > >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Teas mailing list >>> Teas@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>> >> >> > --94eb2c0c0a9a856ab605618cc03a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IET= F <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Pavan,

On Fri, Dec= 29, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Spencer, Hi!

Thanks for the review. Please see inline = for responses (prefixed VPB).

Regards,
-Pavan

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Spencer Dawkins <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballo= t position for
draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10: No Objection

When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
introductory paragraph, however.)


Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/s= tatement/discuss-criteria.html
for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.


The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
https://datatracker= .ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label/



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I believe you when you say this

=C2=A0 =C2=A0As per the existing
=C2=A0 =C2=A0setup procedure outlined for a bidirectional LSP, each upstrea= m node
=C2=A0 =C2=A0must allocate a valid upstream label on the outgoing interface= before
=C2=A0 =C2=A0sending the initial Path message downstream.=C2=A0 However, th= ere are
=C2=A0 =C2=A0certain scenarios where it is not desirable or possible for a = given
=C2=A0 =C2=A0node to pick the upstream label on its own.=C2=A0 This documen= t defines
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the protocol mechanism to be used in such scenarios.

but I wonder if you could give an example or two of those "certain sce= narios",
so that readers would know whether they need to keep reading.

After reading all of Section 3, I found myself wondering whether that use c= ase
was one of the "certain scenarios", but I couldn't tell for c= ertain. If it is,
even a forward reference to Section 3 in the Introduction would have helped= me.





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--94eb2c0c0a9a856ab605618cc03a-- From nobody Sat Dec 30 03:09:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D788126DD9; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:08:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O1WW__EEUPqE; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:08:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pl0-x22f.google.com (mail-pl0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EA14126B6E; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:08:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pl0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id z5so24376501plo.10; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:08:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=l+7DHhRRZre2qfhGgZYqXXlZeOwawpNaVrUXsurSfc4=; b=iO/5L2Im39Yx3SLFQtTbEFeI2iVXkDq4LSdyItb8QyAa3Y1BiaTaZrqeISLrkBKPfP kzVFEcwm2iVE3wvTq1YevsBiYdvLzGolPppJFaRqfJ/Mp/CRK7pfGZg81BvSu1e9TzIg vQzSfAtru45xvgrziJKwrSaewq7RvIU0KfieWXmQPx3aDOr11BZJydIqoZQdp/UmO+4m ieCfoCvQRdvA1k3+ormQLwIBdneOq1Y3IRULQLUx7X91MuLAi4ieXfNVe4dVyHg3TrzQ yEG/ptbKs2F1YV03rH3fUsjkjsHgeBipq2Kzc809yPOWvgZDE6Q3BJLVoRgjyOZXdNZ7 G5+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=l+7DHhRRZre2qfhGgZYqXXlZeOwawpNaVrUXsurSfc4=; b=GofvuaoiFpdeFaKbze4cbo2aNl5tt7IL1BmEwm9eqfBFOUcKIuBkV4u88qTuLnvqz3 kXRUoP72fLnSSRgl9CAfKS8dsKahOIffrgfPPN1m51+b2iLE0tHJheslTsvXwYCMAOdA eBM5h74CKJOW0OTTDgai8/t6sPGX6S7RgxhvErEGKooBuM9rDQXSIRHDz0GBocfHInKd h6TEAXGn5aj5+XUUWpvwClz+LRp+/vmKW0V3tb9LHxeHP2W6BpoA1qEV957dmmt870kz Oadou60s6iPe5X3UbyQdIJeIQBN9+xzqQVLUWF+lpuojfHx+h7jSy1s3Ylrdk/zW7GRr fSFg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mI5TXmk2nnqJLFSTwsOb8MNwzBq8/dP0Nn4nADOEaNLROL81r8h WOf62c9q3tNcWYiPbgCPM6WEkX33fHzBYHh0JuM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBovfH1AKUmr3vYGjpPYly7z+dehI/GzqsII2y8ywsgl80+9J+LYyH9MNDgbWnSHjB8q+jnNSYt+2DThJwrX+7Co= X-Received: by 10.159.196.135 with SMTP id c7mr37493770plo.197.1514632132885; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:08:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.170.203 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:08:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <151445342643.3325.3859654932108556910@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 06:08:52 -0500 Message-ID: To: Stewart Bryant Cc: gen-art@ietf.org, draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label.all@ietf.org, ietf , TEAS WG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e082e0c243f031805618cc643" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 11:08:55 -0000 --089e082e0c243f031805618cc643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-11.txt Rev-11 takes care of the "final sections - ordering" nit. Regards, -Pavan On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Stewart, Hi! > > Thanks for the review! > > Please see inline (prefixed VPB). > > Regards, > -Pavan > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Stewart Bryant > wrote: > >> Reviewer: Stewart Bryant >> Review result: Ready >> >> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area >> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed >> by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just >> like any other last call comments. >> >> For more information, please see the FAQ at >> >> . >> >> Document: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10 >> Reviewer: Stewart Bryant >> Review Date: 2017-12-28 >> IETF LC End Date: 2017-12-29 >> IESG Telechat date: 2018-01-11 >> >> Summary: A clear will written document. Ready for publication. >> >> Major issues: None >> >> Minor issues: Not an issue with the design per se, but there is a school >> of >> thought that says do not use all zeros or all ones in a protocol without >> good >> reason since these are common uninitialized variable values. If the >> designers >> have scope to do so they might consider picking another value. >> >> > [VPB] The authors did discuss this during the individual-draft stage. The > "all-ones" pattern was chosen because it was unlikely to conflict with any > of the labels that are already in use (the section on "backwards > compatibility" discusses this). Since there hasn't been any strong > resistance to the use of this value, the authors would like to retain the > current value. > > >> Nits/editorial comments: >> >> Slightly strange order of final sections. Most readers will want to look >> at >> IANA and Security rather than worrying about the contributors. >> > > [VPB] This order of sections is based on the template that is currently > being used. We will fix it in the next revision. > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> > > --089e082e0c243f031805618cc643 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Regards,
-Pavan

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:41 = AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
Stewa= rt, Hi!

Thanks for the review!

Please see inline = (prefixed VPB).

Regards,
-Pavan

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Stewart Bryant &l= t;stewart.bry= ant@gmail.com> wrote:
Revie= wer: Stewart Bryant
Review result: Ready

I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
by the IESG for the IETF Chair.=C2=A0 Please treat these comments just
like any other last call comments.

For more information, please see the FAQ at

<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenArtfaq<= /a>>.

Document: draft-ietf-teas-network-assigned-upstream-label-10
Reviewer: Stewart Bryant
Review Date: 2017-12-28
IETF LC End Date: 2017-12-29
IESG Telechat date: 2018-01-11

Summary: A clear will written document. Ready for publication.

Major issues: None

Minor issues: Not an issue with the design per se, but there is a school of=
thought that says do not use all zeros or all ones in a protocol without go= od
reason since these are common uninitialized variable values. If the designe= rs
have scope to do so they might consider picking another value.


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Nits/editorial comments:

Slightly strange order of final sections. Most readers will want to look at=
IANA and Security rather than worrying about the contributors.

[VPB] This order of sections is based on the= template that is currently being used. We will fix it in the next revision= .



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