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I=E2=80=99d like to get it = out within a day or two. Feedback welcome. I=E2=80=99ve cc=E2=80=99ed = the IESG, IAB, and IETF comms director Greg Wood for awareness. Thanks, Alissa =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94 To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org Subject: IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy Team Body: Hi all, I'd like to introduce a new team that has been created in the General = area: the Tools Architecture and Strategy (TAS) team. The current set of tools supported by the IETF Tools Team, including = Datatracker, Postconfirm, Mail Archive, XML2RFC, RFCDiff, and = YANGCatalog, has been developed and maintained over many years by = committed volunteers and contractors. The current tools suite has been = developed with extensive input and contributions from the community, and = as a result many previously unmet needs are today being met with the = IETF tools. As with many community-driven software development efforts, IETF tools = implementations have seen contributions from multiple developers and the = tools footprint has spread organically over many years. While this has = been productive it has been in the absence of a well defined = architecture and strategy that unites them all together. Given the = breadth of functionality in the tools suite and advances in how software = is developed, guiding architectural principles to which IETF tools align = and an overall strategy that sets out general objectives and means of = achieving them are necessary, applicable across the full tools suite. The IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy (TAS) team is tasked with = developing this architectural and strategic guidance for IETF tools = development. Initial topics that the TAS team may wish to consider = include: =E2=80=A2 End-to-end coverage of the IETF participant workflow =E2=80=A2 Extensibility and maintainability =E2=80=A2 Operational scalability, performance, and security profiles of = tools =E2=80=A2 User experience design, testing, and analysis It is not the role of the TAS team to implement, maintain, or manage the = operation of individual tools. Those responsibilities remain with the = IETF tools team. Once TAS team guidance documents become available, the = IETF Tools Project Manager will establish plans and workflows to align = ongoing and future tools development with the guidance. The TAS team is expected to consult widely with the IETF community, to = draw on best practices from the software development industry and open = source communities, and to evolve its guidance over time as practices = change. The team's online presence resides at: Datatracker page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/tools-arch/about/ Mailing list (open to members, with a public archive): = tools-arch@ietf.org Github organization: https://github.com/ietf-team-tools-arch The TAS team members and team leaders are appointed by the General Area = Director. The composition of the team is meant to reflect understanding = of the IETF tools suite and its history as well as cloud software = development processes and deployments. Team leadership changes are = expected approximately every two years. Team membership will be assessed = and potentially refreshed annually. The initial team members are: Jari Arkko Silvia Botros Jay Daley (LLC liaison) Tony Hansen Tero Kivinen John Levine Mark Nottingham Rich Salz (co-lead) Jim Schaad David Schinazi Robert Sparks (tools team liaison) Martin Thomson (co-lead) If you have questions about the team, feel free to send them to me or = the co-leads, Rich Salz and Martin Thomson = . 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Those responsibilities remain with >> the IETF tools team. Once TAS team guidance documents become >> available, the IETF Tools Project Manager will establish plans and >> workflows to align ongoing and future tools development with the >> guidance. >=20 > Might be no harm to name the current "IETF Tools Project > Manager" or to include an email alias for that role if > there is one. (FWIW, I'm not sure who does that myself.) Will do. It=E2=80=99s Robert Sparks. 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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85F26071-05B0-4D47-AD61-E8AD0E75FFD6@cooperw.in> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KS3iQ7b3SXamvug2HMLr94qyjLRCMj4uL" Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Feb 2020 07:16:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] [IAB] Draft announcement of tools architecture and strategy team X-BeenThere: tools-arch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Architecture and Strategy Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2020 15:10:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --KS3iQ7b3SXamvug2HMLr94qyjLRCMj4uL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="g1pD0AEZpvdPkeQx1Cx2Ctc1R1i75Q08N"; protected-headers="v1" From: Stephen Farrell To: Alissa Cooper , tools-arch@ietf.org Cc: Greg Wood , IAB , IESG Message-ID: Subject: Re: [IAB] Draft announcement of tools architecture and strategy team References: <85F26071-05B0-4D47-AD61-E8AD0E75FFD6@cooperw.in> In-Reply-To: <85F26071-05B0-4D47-AD61-E8AD0E75FFD6@cooperw.in> --g1pD0AEZpvdPkeQx1Cx2Ctc1R1i75Q08N Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------25C0455C2CFF17BB0B09E69C" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------25C0455C2CFF17BB0B09E69C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks generally fine - one nit: On 03/02/2020 15:02, Alissa Cooper wrote: > It is not the role of the TAS team to implement, maintain, or manage > the operation of individual tools. Those responsibilities remain with > the IETF tools team. Once TAS team guidance documents become > available, the IETF Tools Project Manager will establish plans and > workflows to align ongoing and future tools development with the > guidance. Might be no harm to name the current "IETF Tools Project Manager" or to include an email alias for that role if there is one. (FWIW, I'm not sure who does that myself.) 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(p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:1829::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50E9C6600D9; Mon, 3 Feb 2020 22:55:37 +0200 (EET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Jari Arkko In-Reply-To: <85F26071-05B0-4D47-AD61-E8AD0E75FFD6@cooperw.in> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 21:55:35 +0100 Cc: tools-arch@ietf.org, Greg Wood , IAB , IESG Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <71F9F41F-D1CA-4040-A524-A40F671E82F0@piuha.net> References: <85F26071-05B0-4D47-AD61-E8AD0E75FFD6@cooperw.in> To: Alissa Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Draft announcement of tools architecture and strategy team X-BeenThere: tools-arch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Architecture and Strategy Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2020 20:55:53 -0000 Looks good to me, and thanks for setting this up. Agree with Stephen=E2=80= =99s edit. Maybe would useful to circulate this briefly also in the = tools team list itself, before it goes out fully publicly? 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Alissa > On Feb 3, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: >=20 > Looks good to me, and thanks for setting this up. Agree with = Stephen=E2=80=99s edit. 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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The codesprint runs all of Saturday - late Saturday afternoon would be bad for me. RjS On 2/21/20 5:41 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: > > We want to have a kickoff meeting in Vancouver.  When’s a good time to > meet for 1-2 hours?  That will include, we hope, Robert Sparks giving > an overview of the tooling we have. > > Before setting up a doodle poll with more specifies, can anyone not > meet late afternoon Saturday? > > --------------1B79612E52236E0915E87662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

The codesprint runs all of Saturday - late Saturday afternoon would be bad for me.

RjS

On 2/21/20 5:41 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:

We want to have a kickoff meeting in Vancouver.  When’s a good time to meet for 1-2 hours?  That will include, we hope, Robert Sparks giving an overview of the tooling we have.

 

Before setting up a doodle poll with more specifies, can anyone not meet late afternoon Saturday?


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Sat, 22 Feb 2020 21:58:03 +0200 (EET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Jari Arkko In-Reply-To: <58E70EEA-B439-422E-B63C-35F553B07143@akamai.com> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 21:57:50 +0200 Cc: "tools-arch@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2771AAD5-CC12-4A40-9B40-7B19D13CF978@akamai.com> <58E70EEA-B439-422E-B63C-35F553B07143@akamai.com> To: "Salz, Rich" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Meeting in vancouver X-BeenThere: tools-arch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Architecture and Strategy Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 19:58:08 -0000 Sunday before the IAB meetings start (i.e., 10-11) would be an ok time = for me (but even that is running in parallel with the Hackathon, and I = guess I won=E2=80=99t be the only one from this team there). 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When’s a good time to meet for 1-2 hours? That will include, we hope, >Robert Sparks giving an overview of the tooling we have. > >Before setting up a doodle poll with more specifies, can anyone not meet late afternoon Saturday? Not sure I'll be there by then.