From nobody Wed Mar 4 20:49:20 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-arch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-arch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D183A0BD8 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:49:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qH_5oDMywWVJ for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:49:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 265173A0BDB for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:49:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from Jude (73.180.8.170) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:49:10 -0800 From: Jim Schaad To: CC: References: <2771AAD5-CC12-4A40-9B40-7B19D13CF978@akamai.com> <20200223032745.5CD3E14D127B@ary.qy> In-Reply-To: <20200223032745.5CD3E14D127B@ary.qy> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:49:08 -0800 Message-ID: <010701d5f2a9$69c5c060$3d514120$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQI74caly/xC5ubdSGo0ob26rvu8bKdtjtUA Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [73.180.8.170] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Meeting in vancouver X-BeenThere: tools-arch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Architecture and Strategy Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2020 04:49:18 -0000 Rich, I will be remote for the entire meeting at this point. Not sure what = constitutes a good time. I ended up in conference calls most of the = hackathon time during the Singapore IETF. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Tools-arch On Behalf Of John Levine Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:28 PM To: tools-arch@ietf.org Cc: rsalz@akamai.com Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Meeting in vancouver In article <2771AAD5-CC12-4A40-9B40-7B19D13CF978@akamai.com> you write: >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >We want to have a kickoff meeting in Vancouver. When=E2=80=99s a good = time to=20 >meet for 1-2 hours? That will include, we hope, Robert Sparks giving = an overview of the tooling we have. > >Before setting up a doodle poll with more specifies, can anyone not = meet late afternoon Saturday? Not sure I'll be there by then. -- Tools-arch mailing list Tools-arch@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch From nobody Wed Mar 4 20:55:46 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-arch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-arch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE583A0C00 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:55:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mnot.net header.b=RCb32VGT; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=ZKZDMI7v Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4kbU1Fcb5wTE for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12C893A0BFE for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB89721C1B; Wed, 4 Mar 2020 23:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 04 Mar 2020 23:55:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mnot.net; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=fm2; bh=A ZremrYJA1hvrdFNU6RqXMTL28ZAUAIoptorhKHojto=; b=RCb32VGT8bPY3OIeo 1Zm0gLEjpB8mMK9ZRdt1EojGuA8tuc1K59IQmul+YWTBhnBiw4XHc4Yp6HUbf27w 6GMNSNHdUcm5MVrEcAIPaaF45nhIddLtNCtJbaezdqEsthJFjvgQdQhqyS+tZ91e Qu5jJ6E0rwngHmElGLTzvnfrROP+6H9m0/86bvBjLQHkbcK2yVyzhtYN7UGu/LDv UK/5zRnjUUtRwY8N74f6ToyEOFpY3GvGB2TYRq05WVl5kg44REGU2Wqex3ZLkvcb EYMltS7nQkAEFvGqksnIIFmp4mwaPtSCsvq4tGyyhK7lzFqA5Kt5PmM9qwJ6VFgO PQvDA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=AZremrYJA1hvrdFNU6RqXMTL28ZAUAIoptorhKHoj to=; b=ZKZDMI7vbHaVTScWsFcqYAU/kVAr6IBfP7v8lbbnHFZMFSUe4c7WDRU+A dyemhwcB+bXRHtkWBXwxVvK3QKsz9dAOfyalKolKrT4rsjYaX2oIZMLt02fwUiMY rUCiJt8+eoWbSVYcobC6M8s+tQfuyLPUSShXn8PbzOymxLiK0sjgklCUEpL6/+Y2 aXsaln59ESc4R6JiHd86ebwDOistpRpcBBY9dwIG3UxvzHHPjBlTHZBiFQu+AKEp eofJyAwJDUJroa8cSXBzmwBb/tXlw2H+AX+W0+e2s9I4MUczFrYa8Mz40KKkCQjk Ec2DIobkLrMBX4WjD5UVEsN1CF+yg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedruddtledgjeeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpegtggfuhfgjfffgkfhfvffosehtqh hmtdhhtdejnecuhfhrohhmpeforghrkhcupfhothhtihhnghhhrghmuceomhhnohhtsehm nhhothdrnhgvtheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehivghtfhdrohhrghdpmhhnohhtrdhnvghtne cukfhppeduudelrddujedrudehkedrvdehudenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecu rfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehmnhhothesmhhnohhtrdhnvght X-ME-Proxy: Received: from macbook-pro.mnot.net (unknown [119.17.158.251]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8A48A30612AF; Wed, 4 Mar 2020 23:55:36 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.60.0.2.5\)) From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: <010701d5f2a9$69c5c060$3d514120$@augustcellars.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 15:55:33 +1100 Cc: rsalz@akamai.com, tools-arch@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <69874341-E2C0-4031-88AB-93BA89E9744E@mnot.net> References: <2771AAD5-CC12-4A40-9B40-7B19D13CF978@akamai.com> <20200223032745.5CD3E14D127B@ary.qy> <010701d5f2a9$69c5c060$3d514120$@augustcellars.com> To: Jim Schaad X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Meeting in vancouver X-BeenThere: tools-arch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Architecture and Strategy Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2020 04:55:45 -0000 Same. > On 5 Mar 2020, at 3:49 pm, Jim Schaad wrote: >=20 > Rich, >=20 > I will be remote for the entire meeting at this point. Not sure what = constitutes a good time. I ended up in conference calls most of the = hackathon time during the Singapore IETF. >=20 > Jim >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Tools-arch On Behalf Of John = Levine > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:28 PM > To: tools-arch@ietf.org > Cc: rsalz@akamai.com > Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Meeting in vancouver >=20 > In article <2771AAD5-CC12-4A40-9B40-7B19D13CF978@akamai.com> you = write: >> -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >> We want to have a kickoff meeting in Vancouver. When=E2=80=99s a = good time to=20 >> meet for 1-2 hours? That will include, we hope, Robert Sparks giving = an overview of the tooling we have. >>=20 >> Before setting up a doodle poll with more specifies, can anyone not = meet late afternoon Saturday? >=20 > Not sure I'll be there by then. >=20 > -- > Tools-arch mailing list > Tools-arch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch >=20 > --=20 > Tools-arch mailing list > Tools-arch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ From nobody Thu Mar 5 16:10:40 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-arch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-arch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8309A3A0F11 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2020 16:10:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lowentropy.net header.b=e/Z442L9; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=O+NNF6b2 Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Km3AYmXSQ26L for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2020 16:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D91EB3A0F12 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2020 16:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A41E929 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2020 19:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap2 ([10.202.2.52]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 05 Mar 2020 19:10:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lowentropy.net; h=mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm1; bh=WwU1U ppgbVJ4JB+7IRFc/84J0CJj+HKlWgxkEYVQa/w=; b=e/Z442L9QqSlFaM+Sy6UQ RCgJv4OC4zja5sc3px1Q/7ceC/QJHWagSWzM0LZDi3eL3yi7VIpBUiYeDMB/yx0a CHEnYLSM3lzAjK4Sjw0yhBJhaZJ8nEIP34SOQnMo7I/wRO412O+1R0+ylcDvSk8N xntkya69jm+hR4RkJ629eZUS2dDKdnq/D9DwWRgPKa2dUzYPeAi0cqMR8M9j7umI UFBuVNzBLLJFtCmsFZN0uMa/HeQOzE6UOXtpbFgzho8XpDcpENiIs+hYoPqMgGIJ iYw37M/Dzq8dU3uJw4cNkapyAueMAnsVRMYX0O8ZfJ8jV6CeJVAOLfHPAUPcKTwW Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=WwU1UppgbVJ4JB+7IRFc/84J0CJj+HKlWgxkEYVQa /w=; b=O+NNF6b2v8m+FsuAHvmSVtuvmPfrYX/771Fej68LA4D7zKqibKbwzSgzx eamIf2c4MvCxQBuKHCQ5qwPEG/XHOGkAczWbZYR3faFEDPvL3NtZrHMb0ayLE6Ii IaWk4bRAcNjzNXhvbtdE9JxUdodptrfhEtldfxdNXoj5Xs1nGXxPn5XsJpUykdmA b9lpp5GAXdXXYV5jO/4WEQE+0Bqn6/1Vl3Or4OHNZh5EbtSSV6L0BMf86KWBFQKd tUcOHV5bWUw1LLH9trp5TlpMi6UhjefVpgCk6kbD7lCBp7lLnp8SQqB+7laNQUhO nQOweE2RniqbiO+Yhh661YLzwvuvw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrudduuddgudelucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtgfesth hqredtreerjeenucfhrhhomhepfdforghrthhinhcuvfhhohhmshhonhdfuceomhhtsehl ohifvghnthhrohhphidrnhgvtheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehivghtfhdrohhrghdpmhhnoh htrdhnvghtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhho mhepmhhtsehlohifvghnthhrohhphidrnhgvth X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 7A080E00C8; Thu, 5 Mar 2020 19:10:35 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.7-991-g5a577d3-fmstable-20200305v3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3fb46aa0-b761-4b50-bf6d-74e4462d4b45@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <69874341-E2C0-4031-88AB-93BA89E9744E@mnot.net> References: <2771AAD5-CC12-4A40-9B40-7B19D13CF978@akamai.com> <20200223032745.5CD3E14D127B@ary.qy> <010701d5f2a9$69c5c060$3d514120$@augustcellars.com> <69874341-E2C0-4031-88AB-93BA89E9744E@mnot.net> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 11:10:17 +1100 From: "Martin Thomson" To: tools-arch@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Meeting in vancouver X-BeenThere: tools-arch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Architecture and Strategy Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 00:10:39 -0000 It sounds like we've lost enough people (and there is sufficient uncerta= inty for the remainder), that it would be better if we deferred this unt= il 108. If it turns out that we have business sooner, then we can arrange someth= ing virtual. On Thu, Mar 5, 2020, at 15:55, Mark Nottingham wrote: > Same. >=20 >=20 > > On 5 Mar 2020, at 3:49 pm, Jim Schaad wrote= : > >=20 > > Rich, > >=20 > > I will be remote for the entire meeting at this point. Not sure wha= t constitutes a good time. I ended up in conference calls most of the h= ackathon time during the Singapore IETF. > >=20 > > Jim > >=20 > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tools-arch On Behalf Of John Lev= ine > > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:28 PM > > To: tools-arch@ietf.org > > Cc: rsalz@akamai.com > > Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Meeting in vancouver > >=20 > > In article <2771AAD5-CC12-4A40-9B40-7B19D13CF978@akamai.com> you wri= te: > >> -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > >> We want to have a kickoff meeting in Vancouver. When=E2=80=99s a g= ood time to=20 > >> meet for 1-2 hours? That will include, we hope, Robert Sparks givi= ng an overview of the tooling we have. > >>=20 > >> Before setting up a doodle poll with more specifies, can anyone not= meet late afternoon Saturday? > >=20 > > Not sure I'll be there by then. > >=20 > > -- > > Tools-arch mailing list > > Tools-arch@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch > >=20 > > --=20 > > Tools-arch mailing list > > Tools-arch@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch >=20 > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ >=20 > --=20 > Tools-arch mailing list > Tools-arch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch > From nobody Thu Mar 5 16:53:16 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-arch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-arch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15D43A0FC9 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2020 16:53:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Thu, 5 Mar 2020 19:53:13 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Alissa Cooper In-Reply-To: <3fb46aa0-b761-4b50-bf6d-74e4462d4b45@www.fastmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 19:53:12 -0500 Cc: tools-arch@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2771AAD5-CC12-4A40-9B40-7B19D13CF978@akamai.com> <20200223032745.5CD3E14D127B@ary.qy> <010701d5f2a9$69c5c060$3d514120$@augustcellars.com> <69874341-E2C0-4031-88AB-93BA89E9744E@mnot.net> <3fb46aa0-b761-4b50-bf6d-74e4462d4b45@www.fastmail.com> To: Martin Thomson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Meeting in vancouver X-BeenThere: tools-arch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Architecture and Strategy Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 00:53:16 -0000 I will say that when assembling the group, I was really hoping that all = the business would be virtual. Lots of folks here don=E2=80=99t attend = IETF meetings anyway, and there is plenty of work to get going on, so if = there is a way to kick off with teleconferences, that would be great. Thanks, Alissa > On Mar 5, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: >=20 > It sounds like we've lost enough people (and there is sufficient = uncertainty for the remainder), that it would be better if we deferred = this until 108. >=20 > If it turns out that we have business sooner, then we can arrange = something virtual. >=20 > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020, at 15:55, Mark Nottingham wrote: >> Same. >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 5 Mar 2020, at 3:49 pm, Jim Schaad = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Rich, >>>=20 >>> I will be remote for the entire meeting at this point. Not sure = what constitutes a good time. I ended up in conference calls most of = the hackathon time during the Singapore IETF. >>>=20 >>> Jim >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tools-arch On Behalf Of John = Levine >>> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:28 PM >>> To: tools-arch@ietf.org >>> Cc: rsalz@akamai.com >>> Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Meeting in vancouver >>>=20 >>> In article <2771AAD5-CC12-4A40-9B40-7B19D13CF978@akamai.com> you = write: >>>> -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >>>> We want to have a kickoff meeting in Vancouver. When=E2=80=99s a = good time to=20 >>>> meet for 1-2 hours? That will include, we hope, Robert Sparks = giving an overview of the tooling we have. >>>>=20 >>>> Before setting up a doodle poll with more specifies, can anyone not = meet late afternoon Saturday? >>>=20 >>> Not sure I'll be there by then. >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Tools-arch mailing list >>> Tools-arch@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Tools-arch mailing list >>> Tools-arch@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch >>=20 >> -- >> Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ >>=20 >> --=20 >> Tools-arch mailing list >> Tools-arch@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Tools-arch mailing list > Tools-arch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-arch From nobody Thu Mar 5 17:47:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-arch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-arch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76133A1087 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2020 17:47:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.85 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.85 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=iecc.com header.b=S1X1LFh3; dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=taugh.com header.b=CWWxZfoY Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FKjLmuBJuw5x for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2020 17:47:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A9B23A1085 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2020 17:47:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7461 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2020 01:47:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=1d23.5e61abc2.k2003; bh=XQ4gVuIumLtq66O1/bJ2c+KtdkaexnY8ft2XcnvPETg=; b=S1X1LFh3kw8kH87t0lqTuW1+7ljeH9KDQQXbkgas+he+TxB0wywBG9AWf1n/zJ91LrbO5HiX4G51C+QnE3Zuqay++0YcFqEqGOCGu5JEUXAKJAGjMwmNslUOCloYIDNzpSOah8+E96vY0MbVAfpxfbEGeMYgSGxRVXNQUPb/Y0f+1EDLMkNlRZpdwDd1U+Zs9xIigLpoHLWJksGs6URWrK1UWJQRXkVfnDWwfIgj0B6MJJlMVRP+4brlxrxueJ9K DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=1d23.5e61abc2.k2003; bh=XQ4gVuIumLtq66O1/bJ2c+KtdkaexnY8ft2XcnvPETg=; b=CWWxZfoYDfYjTNFcppAmzw6HI4m3wSFnffm4ALc0ZFTTJqIbASjJ3xtplys3AybFJTakCDKs5oNFvAjUTdUBNKeTRGUDAGioaGZAruulikeO6jPKCSMxSMz0kvdyPoGduhe5EW+1Ck4mMdpto2P9IPFfX5pccnnBEmtQqO9dF0LOXWBM+TBqVLPfAe84JD0flUGhclTo5Ov5uV76GXGSEoyWE8rEWD4UKS065WErBBRhAslX1D3oTreO89TBB/cn Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTP via TCP6; 06 Mar 2020 01:47:46 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 06A88157F69B; Thu, 5 Mar 2020 20:47:45 -0500 (EST) Date: 5 Mar 2020 20:47:45 -0500 Message-Id: <20200306014746.06A88157F69B@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: tools-arch@ietf.org Cc: alissa@cooperw.in In-Reply-To: Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-arch] Meeting in vancouver X-BeenThere: tools-arch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Architecture and Strategy Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2020 01:47:51 -0000 In article you write: >I will say that when assembling the group, I was really hoping that all the business would be virtual. Lots of folks here don’t attend IETF meetings anyway, and >there is plenty of work to get going on, so if there is a way to kick off with teleconferences, that would be great. I'm having meta thoughts, that if the tools were good enough that we could do all the work virtually, we wouldn't need to do work. 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Alissa > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: Russ Housley > Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Server Transition Briefing > Date: February 27, 2020 at 11:11:09 AM EST > To: Tools Team Discussion > Cc: IETF Tools Development >=20 > The IETF Tools Team will hold a one-hour WebEx session (see invite = below) > on the recent server transition. The goal is to share information = about > the changes in the server architecture over the last decade and the = most > recent upgrade that took place on 22 Feb 2020. With this context in = mind, > there will be time for discussion. Some things we hope to hear about > include: >=20 > - how can the approach to monitoring/alerting be more transparent > - how to ensure monitoring/alerting covers the end user experience > - how to improve the infrastructure for testing > - next steps toward separation of services to reduce fragility and = increase > flexibility >=20 > I hope you are able to attend. >=20 > For the IETF Tools Team, > Russ >=20 >=20 > =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D >=20 > Meeting number (access code): 643 457 472 > Meeting password: 2tgKWY8VUU8 >=20 > Wednesday, March 11, 2020 > 8:00 pm UTC for 1 hour >=20 > Join by phone > Tap to call in from a mobile device (attendees only) > 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) >=20 > Join from a video system or application > Dial 643457472@ietf.webex.com > You can also dial 173.243.2.68 and enter your meeting number. >=20 > Join using Microsoft Lync or Microsoft Skype for Business > Dial 643457472.ietf@lync.webex.com >=20 > Need help? Go to http://help.webex.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail=_024620EF-55B5-4A7E-86B9-C14D3CB12161 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0F931AA8-CD93-430B-B765-7ED1E30DBD1D" --Apple-Mail=_0F931AA8-CD93-430B-B765-7ED1E30DBD1D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Folks= in this group might be interested (and your input most welcome!) on = this call.

Alissa


Begin = forwarded message:

From: = Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
Subject: = [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT]= Server Transition Briefing
Date: = February 27, 2020 at 11:11:09 = AM EST
To: = Tools Team Discussion <tools-discuss@ietf.org>
Cc: IETF Tools Development <tools-development@ietf.org>

The= IETF Tools Team will hold a one-hour WebEx session (see invite = below)
on the recent server transition.  The goal is = to share information about
the changes in the server = architecture over the last decade and the most
recent = upgrade that took place on 22 Feb 2020.  With this context in = mind,
there will be time for discussion.  Some things = we hope to hear about
include:

- how can the approach to monitoring/alerting be more = transparent
- how to ensure monitoring/alerting covers the = end user experience
- how to improve the infrastructure = for testing
- next steps toward separation of services to = reduce fragility and increase
 flexibility

I hope you are able to attend.
For the IETF Tools Team,
 Russ


=3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D = =3D

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