From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 13 18:30:24 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EFJIF-0000Qc-T8; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:30:23 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EFCsc-00010q-I8 for tools-discuss@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:39:30 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA27560 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns2.bln1.siemens.de ([194.138.127.35]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFCwm-0005KM-Pn for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:43:50 -0400 Received: from ns-srv-2.bln1.siemens.de (stbf7654 [194.138.127.67]) by ns2.bln1.siemens.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/MTA) with ESMTP id j8DFcwdr022560 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:38:58 +0200 (MEST) Received: from blnss10a.bln1.siemens.de (blnss10a.bln1.siemens.de [194.138.127.102]) by ns-srv-2.bln1.siemens.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/MTA) with ESMTP id j8DFcrDm025315 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:38:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: by blnss10a.bln1.siemens.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:36:48 +0200 Message-ID: From: Schendel Jens Com Berlin To: "'tools-discuss@ietf.org'" Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:38:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6d62ab47271805379d7172ee693a45db X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:30:22 -0400 Subject: [Tools-discuss] nits and diffs for I-D to RFC transition X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi all, the diff pages are very helpful. However, I wonder if there is also a diff available for the transition from I-D to RFC, e.g. draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-cc-06.txt -> RFC4006. Did I miss the right page? Regards, Jens _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 13 19:20:48 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EFK52-0003UG-Bo; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:20:48 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EFK50-0003R9-NW for tools-discuss@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:20:46 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA09486 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net ([81.228.9.184]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFK9U-0006ZH-5c for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:25:25 -0400 Received: by av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id D550537E4D; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:20:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF6337E4B; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:20:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-224-201-50-no45.tbcn.telia.com [81.224.201.50]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA0437E43; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:20:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EFK4p-0001xJ-02; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:20:35 +0200 Message-ID: <43275EC2.6030407@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:20:34 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Schendel Jens Com Berlin Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] nits and diffs for I-D to RFC transition References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "'tools-discuss@ietf.org'" X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Jens, on 2005-09-13 17:38 Schendel Jens Com Berlin said the following: > Hi all, > > the diff pages are very helpful. However, I wonder if there is also a > diff available for the transition from I-D to RFC, e.g. > draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-cc-06.txt -> RFC4006. Did I miss the right > page? No, that feature isn't there, but it's a good idea. Let me see think about how to fix that in a simple manner. It should be straightforward when we have the general event notification in place, but if I see an easy way to do it before then I'll put it in. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 13 22:18:03 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EFMqZ-0002kU-RI; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:18:03 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EFMqW-0002kK-4h for tools-discuss@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:18:02 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA17412 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net ([81.228.9.180]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFMv1-0002Uf-3Y for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:22:40 -0400 Received: by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id EED0737F1A; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 04:17:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D921537F17; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 04:17:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-224-201-50-no45.tbcn.telia.com [81.224.201.50]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6EA37E43; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 04:17:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EFMqC-0000CW-9L; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 04:17:40 +0200 Message-ID: <43278844.1090508@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 04:17:40 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Schendel Jens Com Berlin Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] nits and diffs for I-D to RFC transition References: <43275EC2.6030407@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <43275EC2.6030407@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "'tools-discuss@ietf.org'" X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Again, The script changes to take care of this is in place, and should have pulled in the relevant RFCs and generated the diffs in 30 minutes or so on the primary server. Within the hour, the scripts should also be updated on the secondary and doing the same there. I'm not doing nits for the RFCs - not all the ID-checklist requirements are applicable for RFCs, so it's not really appropriate to run idnits on them. Henrik on 2005-09-14 01:20 Henrik Levkowetz said the following: > Hi Jens, > > on 2005-09-13 17:38 Schendel Jens Com Berlin said the following: >> Hi all, >> >> the diff pages are very helpful. However, I wonder if there is also a >> diff available for the transition from I-D to RFC, e.g. >> draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-cc-06.txt -> RFC4006. Did I miss the right >> page? > > No, that feature isn't there, but it's a good idea. Let me see think > about how to fix that in a simple manner. > > It should be straightforward when we have the general event notification > in place, but if I see an easy way to do it before then I'll put it in. > > > Henrik > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 20 15:40:26 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EHnyc-0007Xv-Dg; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:40:26 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EHVPf-0007hI-0C for tools-discuss@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:51:07 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA08856 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgw-ext02.nokia.com ([131.228.20.94]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EHVVN-0001qu-7z for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:57:01 -0400 Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-ext02.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j8JNp4ZN017902 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 02:51:05 +0300 Received: from esebh003.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.82]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 20 Sep 2005 02:51:05 +0300 Received: from l5131412.nokia.com ([10.241.163.148]) by esebh003.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6881); Tue, 20 Sep 2005 02:51:03 +0300 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050919162707.02aae008@daebe102.noe.nokia.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:50:58 -0700 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Bob Hinden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2005 23:51:04.0196 (UTC) FILETIME=[FEFFCC40:01C5BD74] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 29dc808194f5fb921c09d0040806d6eb X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:40:25 -0400 Cc: john.loughney@nokia.com, Bob Hinden Subject: [Tools-discuss] IETF Email problem - Loosing From: field contents X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, We apparently have a problem where something in the IETF email infrastructure is changing the From: fields. See example below. From where the "new" From: field is in the email headers, it looks like it is happening at: ietf-mx.ietf.org (though be at the next hop). The reason I think it is very important to fix this, is that the email that it is impossible to see who sent an email. This is in my view a big problem for an open standards group where it is important to know who made specific comments. I hope this can be fixed as soon as possible. Thanks, Bob p.s. This is not a problem in the archive. It must be getting put in the archive prior to the From: header rewriting. I did note that the web archive is somewhat different from the ftp archive. No clue.... >Received: from daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.111]) by >daebe102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); > Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:31:17 -0500 >Received: from esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.143]) by >daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); > Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:31:16 -0500 >Received: from esdks004.ntc.nokia.com ([172.21.138.159]) by >esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); > Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:31:13 +0300 >X-Scanned: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:30:34 +0300 Nokia Message Protector V1.3.35 >2005042208 - RELEASE >Received: (from root@localhost) > by esdks004.ntc.nokia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id j8JFUXmT032285; > Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:30:34 +0300 >Received: from mgw-ext02.nokia.com (131.228.20.94) > by esdks004.ntc.nokia.com 004VgA2Q; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:30:32 EEST >Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) > by mgw-ext02.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id > j8JFUUXp002364; > Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:30:31 +0300 >Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) > by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) > id 1EHNaq-0005Xq-FR; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:30:08 -0400 >Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) > by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EHNap-0005Va-5j > for wgchairs@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:30:07 -0400 >Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) > by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA03165 > for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:30:04 -0400 (EDT) >From: "ext wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org" >Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com ([168.159.2.31]) > by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EHNgS-0003kr-8D > for wgchairs@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:35:57 -0400 >Received: from mxic2.corp.emc.com (mxic2.corp.emc.com [128.221.12.9]) > by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id > j8JFTm1o002975; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:29:49 -0400 (EDT) >Received: by mxic2.corp.emc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) > id ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:29:48 -0400 >Message-ID: >To: brc@zurich.ibm.com, sob@harvard.edu >Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:29:41 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) >Content-Type: text/plain >X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, > Antispam-Data: 2005.9.19.14 >X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=, SPAM=0%, Reasons='EMC_BODY_1+ -5, EMC_FROM_00+ -0, > NO_REAL_NAME 0, __C230066_P5 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, > __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __IMS_MSGID 0, __IMS_MUA 0, > __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, > __STOCK_CRUFT 0' >X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) >X-Scan-Signature: 4d87d2aa806f79fed918a62e834505ca >Cc: wgchairs@ietf.org >Subject: Allocating RFC numbers at time of approval >X-BeenThere: wgchairs@ietf.org >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 >Precedence: list >List-Id: Working Group Chairs >List-Unsubscribe: , > >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: , > >Sender: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org >Errors-To: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org >Return-Path: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2005 15:31:13.0477 (UTC) >FILETIME=[2B233F50:01C5BD2F] > > > If people want this to change, it means changing another long-time > > practice by allocating RFC numbers at the time of approval. > >That might be a very good thing. I have a number of interactions >with another standards body in which speed of IETF publication of >RFCs is an issue. The crucial external requirement is a stable >reference designator - having an RFC number prior to publication >could be quite useful by taking the RFC Editor out of the critical >path to that designator, thereby enabling publication of other >standards that want to reference RFCs (to-be). > >Thanks, >--David >---------------------------------------------------- >David L. Black, Senior Technologist >EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748 >+1 (508) 293-7953 FAX: +1 (508) 293-7786 >black_david@emc.com Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754 >---------------------------------------------------- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter > > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 4:26 AM > > To: Scott Bradner > > Cc: wgchairs@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: when does the RFC2026 advancement timer start? > > IESG approval, or publication as an RFC? > > > > Scott Bradner wrote: > > >>but when does the timer start? with IESG approval, or at > > publication as an RFC? > > > > > > > > > a long-time question - the only date that shows up in the index and > > > document is the publication date so there is no way to know > > by looking > > > at the RFC what the approval time was so in practice the publication > > > date is the practical one to use > > > > If people want this to change, it means changing another long-time > > practice by allocating RFC numbers at the time of approval. > > That way the > > RFC index could carry an "approved date" as well as a > > publication date. > > > > That's a requirement the IETF would have to express very clearly > > for it to happen. > > > > Brian > > > > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Sep 21 03:50:02 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EHzMg-00035p-PS; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:50:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EHzMd-00033r-Lu for tools-discuss@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:50:01 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA03324 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtagate1.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.150]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EHzSa-0001HW-4A for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:56:08 -0400 Received: from d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.49]) by mtagate1.de.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j8L7nkOI138486 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 07:49:46 GMT Received: from d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.228]) by d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j8L7nkxI150274 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:49:46 +0200 Received: from d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j8L7nk0e012359 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:49:46 +0200 Received: from sihl.zurich.ibm.com (sihl.zurich.ibm.com [9.4.16.232]) by d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j8L7nj7n012336; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:49:45 +0200 Received: from zurich.ibm.com (sig-9-146-223-194.de.ibm.com [9.146.223.194]) by sihl.zurich.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA71754; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:49:44 +0200 Message-ID: <43311097.5030906@zurich.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:49:43 +0200 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: IBM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en, fr, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Hinden Subject: Re: Fwd: [Tools-discuss] IETF Email problem - Loosing From: field contents References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050920163147.039b9100@furball.foretec.com> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050920163147.039b9100@furball.foretec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bcd240e64c427d3d3617cfc704e7fd7f Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: john.loughney@nokia.com, Ray Pelletier , "Barbara B. Fuller" , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Bob, This looks like a possible bug in an operational mail system. The Tools team isn't responsible for the secretariat's operational systems. If it's a bug, it needs to be reported to ietf-action@ietf.org, like any other operational issue. That will generate a ticket and the secretariat will follow up. But it isn't at all clear to me below which From field you mean and what it was altered from and to. Since the Nokia mail system is known to change the sender of external senders to "ext XXXX", I suspect it is also falling into the very old trap of using Return-Path instead of From or Sender. Return-Path should never be used if either of the other two is present, iirc. So maybe the ticket should be sent to the Nokia help desk? Thanks Brian > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Envelope-to: bfuller@foretec.com >> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 >> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:50:58 -0700 >> To: tools-discuss@ietf.org >> From: Bob Hinden >> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2005 23:51:04.0196 (UTC) >> FILETIME=[FEFFCC40:01C5BD74] >> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >> X-Scan-Signature: 29dc808194f5fb921c09d0040806d6eb >> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:40:25 -0400 >> Cc: john.loughney@nokia.com, Bob Hinden >> Subject: [Tools-discuss] IETF Email problem - Loosing From: field >> contents >> X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 >> List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion >> List-Unsubscribe: , >> >> List-Archive: >> List-Post: >> List-Help: >> List-Subscribe: , >> >> Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org >> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >> X-Scan-Signature: 3971661e40967acfc35f708dd5f33760 >> >> Hi, >> >> We apparently have a problem where something in the IETF email >> infrastructure is changing the From: fields. See example below. From >> where the "new" From: field is in the email headers, it looks like it >> is happening at: ietf-mx.ietf.org (though be at the next hop). >> >> The reason I think it is very important to fix this, is that the email >> that it is impossible to see who sent an email. This is in my view a >> big problem for an open standards group where it is important to know >> who made specific comments. >> >> I hope this can be fixed as soon as possible. >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> >> p.s. This is not a problem in the archive. It must be getting put in >> the archive prior to the From: header rewriting. I did note that the >> web archive is somewhat different from the ftp archive. No clue.... >> >> >> >> >>> Received: from daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.111]) by >>> daebe102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); >>> Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:31:17 -0500 >>> Received: from esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.143]) by >>> daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); >>> Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:31:16 -0500 >>> Received: from esdks004.ntc.nokia.com ([172.21.138.159]) by >>> esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); >>> Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:31:13 +0300 >>> X-Scanned: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:30:34 +0300 Nokia Message Protector >>> V1.3.35 2005042208 - RELEASE >>> Received: (from root@localhost) >>> by esdks004.ntc.nokia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id j8JFUXmT032285; >>> Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:30:34 +0300 >>> Received: from mgw-ext02.nokia.com (131.228.20.94) >>> by esdks004.ntc.nokia.com 004VgA2Q; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:30:32 >>> EEST >>> Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) >>> by mgw-ext02.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP >>> id j8JFUUXp002364; >>> Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:30:31 +0300 >>> Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] >>> helo=megatron.ietf.org) >>> by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) >>> id 1EHNaq-0005Xq-FR; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:30:08 -0400 >>> Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) >>> by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EHNap-0005Va-5j >>> for wgchairs@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:30:07 -0400 >>> Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) >>> by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA03165 >>> for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:30:04 -0400 (EDT) >>> From: "ext wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org" >>> Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com ([168.159.2.31]) >>> by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EHNgS-0003kr-8D >>> for wgchairs@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:35:57 -0400 >>> Received: from mxic2.corp.emc.com (mxic2.corp.emc.com [128.221.12.9]) >>> by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id >>> j8JFTm1o002975; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:29:49 -0400 (EDT) >>> Received: by mxic2.corp.emc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) >>> id ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:29:48 -0400 >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> To: brc@zurich.ibm.com, sob@harvard.edu >>> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:29:41 -0400 >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) >>> Content-Type: text/plain >>> X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, >>> Antispam-Data: 2005.9.19.14 >>> X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=, SPAM=0%, Reasons='EMC_BODY_1+ -5, EMC_FROM_00+ >>> -0, >>> NO_REAL_NAME 0, __C230066_P5 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, >>> __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __IMS_MSGID 0, __IMS_MUA 0, >>> __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, >>> __STOCK_CRUFT 0' >>> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) >>> X-Scan-Signature: 4d87d2aa806f79fed918a62e834505ca >>> Cc: wgchairs@ietf.org >>> Subject: Allocating RFC numbers at time of approval >>> X-BeenThere: wgchairs@ietf.org >>> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 >>> Precedence: list >>> List-Id: Working Group Chairs >>> List-Unsubscribe: , >>> >>> List-Post: >>> List-Help: >>> List-Subscribe: , >>> >>> Sender: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org >>> Errors-To: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org >>> Return-Path: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org >>> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2005 15:31:13.0477 (UTC) >>> FILETIME=[2B233F50:01C5BD2F] >>> >>> > If people want this to change, it means changing another long-time >>> > practice by allocating RFC numbers at the time of approval. >>> >>> That might be a very good thing. I have a number of interactions >>> with another standards body in which speed of IETF publication of >>> RFCs is an issue. The crucial external requirement is a stable >>> reference designator - having an RFC number prior to publication >>> could be quite useful by taking the RFC Editor out of the critical >>> path to that designator, thereby enabling publication of other >>> standards that want to reference RFCs (to-be). >>> >>> Thanks, >>> --David >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> David L. Black, Senior Technologist >>> EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748 >>> +1 (508) 293-7953 FAX: +1 (508) 293-7786 >>> black_david@emc.com Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754 >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org >>> > [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter >>> > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 4:26 AM >>> > To: Scott Bradner >>> > Cc: wgchairs@ietf.org >>> > Subject: Re: when does the RFC2026 advancement timer start? >>> > IESG approval, or publication as an RFC? >>> > >>> > Scott Bradner wrote: >>> > >>but when does the timer start? with IESG approval, or at >>> > publication as an RFC? >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > a long-time question - the only date that shows up in the index and >>> > > document is the publication date so there is no way to know >>> > by looking >>> > > at the RFC what the approval time was so in practice the publication >>> > > date is the practical one to use >>> > >>> > If people want this to change, it means changing another long-time >>> > practice by allocating RFC numbers at the time of approval. >>> > That way the >>> > RFC index could carry an "approved date" as well as a >>> > publication date. >>> > >>> > That's a requirement the IETF would have to express very clearly >>> > for it to happen. >>> > >>> > Brian >>> > >>> > >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > ------------------------------------------------ > Barbara B. Fuller > Acting Executive Director > Internet Engineering Task Force > > Natick, Massachusetts Office: > > Phone: +1-508-650-4020 > Fax: +1-508-650-4639 > > Reston, Virginia Office: > > Phone: +1-703-620-9053 > Fax: +1-703-620-9071 _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Sep 22 09:51:08 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EIRTg-00032W-52; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:51:08 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EI9hP-000131-D4 for tools-discuss@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:52:12 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA11147 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgw-ext03.nokia.com ([131.228.20.95]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EI9nR-0003HY-V0; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:58:24 -0400 Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-ext03.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j8LIodXa003090; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:50:42 +0300 Received: from esebh003.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.82]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:51:54 +0300 Received: from l5131412.nokia.com ([10.241.49.192]) by esebh003.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6881); Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:51:52 +0300 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050921114630.04a273f8@daebe102.noe.nokia.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:51:43 -0700 To: "Brian E Carpenter" From: Bob Hinden Subject: Re: Fwd: [Tools-discuss] IETF Email problem - Loosing From: field contents In-Reply-To: <43311097.5030906@zurich.ibm.com> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050920163147.039b9100@furball.foretec.com> <43311097.5030906@zurich.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2005 18:51:52.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[87D329E0:01C5BEDD] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:51:07 -0400 Cc: john.loughney@nokia.com, Ray Pelletier , Bob Hinden , "Barbara B. Fuller" , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Brian, At 12:49 AM 09/21/2005, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >Bob, > >This looks like a possible bug in an operational mail >system. The Tools team isn't responsible for the secretariat's >operational systems. > >If it's a bug, it needs to be reported to ietf-action@ietf.org, >like any other operational issue. That will generate >a ticket and the secretariat will follow up. OK, I will send it to them once I get some more data. >But it isn't at all clear to me below which From field >you mean and what it was altered from and to. Since >the Nokia mail system is known to change the sender >of external senders to "ext XXXX", I suspect it is also >falling into the very old trap of using Return-Path >instead of From or Sender. Return-Path should never >be used if either of the other two is present, iirc. >So maybe the ticket should be sent to the Nokia help desk? Well, I am not 100% sure that this isn't a problem with Nokia IM is doing. I will subscribe using another email account and compare the two. This should help understand what is going on. It may be some combination of what ietf.org and Nokia is doing. Thanks, Bob _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 26 12:19:31 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EJveP-0003DA-E8; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:16:21 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EJveN-0003Cz-IC for tools-discuss@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:16:19 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA21940 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [207.152.136.138] (helo=EXECDSL.COM) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EJvlR-00071J-JK for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:23:38 -0400 Received: from [162.84.81.90] (HELO JMHLap3.stevecrocker.com) by EXECDSL.COM (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3) with ESMTP id 12590243 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:16:15 -0400 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050926121441.02e2a7d0@localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:16:09 -0400 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Joel M. Halpern" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Subject: [Tools-discuss] rfc-diff webtool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I was trying to use the rfcdiff webtool to compare two revs of a draft. I could get the revs from watersprings. A while back the idnits tool was fixed to accept an http: URL in the file specification. I appreciated that. Could the same thing be done with the rfc-diff tool? If not, could it produce an error message? I got really confused when it claimed that the two revs were identical. Thank you, Joel M. Halpern _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 26 13:12:38 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EJwWr-0003wc-VC; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:12:37 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EJwWo-0003vv-6k for tools-discuss@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:12:36 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA24559 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.181]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EJwdq-0008On-Io for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:19:53 -0400 Received: by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 997AA383FE; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:12:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6245C3832E; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:12:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-224-201-50-no45.tbcn.telia.com [81.224.201.50]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CA237E49; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:12:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EJwWP-0008Cy-Q4; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:12:09 +0200 Message-ID: <43382BE8.7010702@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:12:08 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joel M. Halpern" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] rfc-diff webtool References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050926121441.02e2a7d0@localhost> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050926121441.02e2a7d0@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Joel, on 2005-09-26 18:16 Joel M. Halpern said the following: > I was trying to use the rfcdiff webtool to compare two revs of a draft. > I could get the revs from watersprings. > A while back the idnits tool was fixed to accept an http: URL in the file > specification. I appreciated that. > Could the same thing be done with the rfc-diff tool? Definitely. > If not, could it produce an error message? I got really confused when it > claimed that the two revs were identical. Right. I'll have a look at this. It shouldn't be allowed to do that ;-) Regards, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 26 13:55:20 2005 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EJxCC-0007pA-25; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:55:20 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EJxCA-0007p0-Kq for tools-discuss@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:55:18 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26278 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.185]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EJxJF-0000ve-JD for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:02:38 -0400 Received: by av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 3AEFC382E9; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:55:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226833813D; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:55:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-224-201-50-no45.tbcn.telia.com [81.224.201.50]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108C237E51; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:55:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EJxBz-0002tb-Lh; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:55:07 +0200 Message-ID: <433835FA.6010100@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:55:06 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joel M. Halpern" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] rfc-diff webtool References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050926121441.02e2a7d0@localhost> <43382BE8.7010702@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <43382BE8.7010702@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi again, on 2005-09-26 19:12 Henrik Levkowetz said the following: > Hi Joel, > > on 2005-09-26 18:16 Joel M. Halpern said the following: >> I was trying to use the rfcdiff webtool to compare two revs of a draft. >> I could get the revs from watersprings. >> A while back the idnits tool was fixed to accept an http: URL in the file >> specification. I appreciated that. >> Could the same thing be done with the rfc-diff tool? > > Definitely. > >> If not, could it produce an error message? I got really confused when it >> claimed that the two revs were identical. > > Right. I'll have a look at this. It shouldn't be allowed to do that ;-) Ok, I've added the ability to accept http: (and ftp:) URLs to the rfcdiff webtool, and also added a check for empty input. Regards, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss