From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 5 07:23:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4047F28C7DA; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:23:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x2Tw3kaq-p3K; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF8E28C80D; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:23:37 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2668E28C7BF for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:23:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gJVOftP4wx1A for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcore.fi (eunet-gw.ipv6.netcore.fi [IPv6:2001:670:86:3001::1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F2328C82C for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcore.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netcore.fi (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m25FNGsg009491 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:23:16 +0200 Received: from localhost (pekkas@localhost) by netcore.fi (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m25FNG1t009488 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:23:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:23:16 +0200 (EET) From: Pekka Savola To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (LRH 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6130/Wed Mar 5 02:42:45 2008 on otso.netcore.fi X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: [Tools-discuss] Some oddities on IAB/IESG "WG pages" X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, Some observations on IAB/IESG "WG pages": http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/iab/ lists only 'draft-iab-dns-choices' under Active drafts, while draft-iab-ip-config and draft-iab-protocol-success are listed as Related drafts. I'd expect all of them to be listed as active drafts. Also, at least draft-iab-iwout-report is listed as Expired, even though those should be RFC published (RFC4948 in this case). On http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/, it's not obvious why 'draft-zinin-early-review' is listed as an IESG document. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 5 11:34:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D88D28C763; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:34:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.481 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.481 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.044, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YVwrIsZ+yxAI; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E643A6BAD; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:34:50 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE9728C234 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:34:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0UJF4pUv44cR for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:34:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5953A6917 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39223 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JWzNr-0003EB-Tj; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:34:35 +0100 Message-ID: <47CEF5C1.3070006@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:34:25 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pekka Savola References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: pekkas@netcore.fi, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Some oddities on IAB/IESG "WG pages" X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1579825042==" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1579825042== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAD69E6518887D6C33C185548" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAD69E6518887D6C33C185548 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pekka, On 2008-03-05 16:23 Pekka Savola said the following: > Hi, >=20 > Some observations on IAB/IESG "WG pages": >=20 > http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/iab/ lists only=20 > 'draft-iab-dns-choices' under Active drafts, while draft-iab-ip-config = > and draft-iab-protocol-success are listed as Related drafts. I'd=20 > expect all of them to be listed as active drafts. So would I. However, the ietf database lists only the dns-choices draft as belonging to the iab. I don't know whether this should be fixed by maintaining the database better, or by me using some iab-specific heuristics rather than what's specified in the database for these... > Also, at least draft-iab-iwout-report is listed as Expired, even=20 > though those should be RFC published (RFC4948 in this case). Right. Again, I'll point to the datatracker database being out of date. In this case, I do have alternative datasources to use; I'll do a re-write to use the more direct source for this (i.e., publication status). > On http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/, it's not obvious why=20 > 'draft-zinin-early-review' is listed as an IESG document. Well, right. But guess what I'm going to say here ,;-) ... That what the ietf database has it classified as ,,:-} Suggestions for action/improvement? Henrik --------------enigAD69E6518887D6C33C185548 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFHzvXLeVhrtTJkXCMRAvMbAKDc/hLAZK3oH7OamTizFfpBpD77ygCfaRxq fnfNkrmyrOvcNyFZMP9QdFE= =ziPi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAD69E6518887D6C33C185548-- --===============1579825042== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============1579825042==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 5 12:16:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7DA28C1C2; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:16:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.232, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uXSyOQfIG58w; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E673A6F8D; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:16:44 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B9D3A6850 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:16:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jm-SZIIgjwGJ for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D862E28C29E for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:16:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JX02C-0003dm-Q7 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:16:16 +0000 Received: from hmbg-d9b88e28.pool.mediaways.net ([217.184.142.40]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:16:16 +0000 Received: from nobody by hmbg-d9b88e28.pool.mediaways.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:16:16 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:18:30 +0100 Organization: Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <47CEF5C1.3070006@levkowetz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: hmbg-d9b88e28.pool.mediaways.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Some oddities on IAB/IESG "WG pages" X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Suggestions for action/improvement? Not directly related: Please create a page (+/- trailing slash), at the moment it is empty. Apparently there are three kinds of "groups", one set are groups with a Wiki: http://tools.ietf.org/group/iaoc http://tools.ietf.org/group/trust http://tools.ietf.org/group/wgchairs Another set of groups are "not a WG" with drafts etc. like an ordinary WG: http://tools.ietf.org/group/iab http://tools.ietf.org/group/iesg http://tools.ietf.org/group/irtf http://tools.ietf.org/group/tools And NomCom is a directory listing of 05..07 etc.: http://tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/ A simple solution is to enable the same script used for .../group/nomcom also for .../group I found no "edu" below "group", is that as it should be ? Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 5 13:15:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D697A28C4E4; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:15:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.939 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.939 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.502, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7JiqBdv2rgeh; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E25428C318; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:15:18 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5309C28C17E for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:15:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OHV6bPPTPaOc for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678B228C2F9 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k40so1940165wah.25 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:15:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0ZYaPBlmgsANq3JEIg48sALv8EGMSmxW5YRImbX9hdY=; b=tPSlu7wG7HQGzK/b4L/LO0mgxL6Rni0HM8O2hr+cuJsHw/1ZmmPhyuxdCugT4WgRVjO4UFhr0+qWtzdoOQrdf/S7bulncSdAC4PTaGCkrgevl0JclooIbfjq7oW/ZsTetwcT7DkWl14chOoR/1D+1xUKMxGSgFFKh1fFpw9IEtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XH5NE8uC09/4HU+bOrJ/KlKGln73GUX+Iq+15ae8P52nPR8ORck1MCJWSAkwHd26T2P3bYFkRcAlkGT5Hkmxes2GUvfsw/+BjCbzmnLqysPjX22zi9OkCP/QuY3sxHCb69vxTdJxiIEMvs6yAepLTV1HRsEAkCW9bCQ0LUnf1SI= Received: by 10.114.15.1 with SMTP id 1mr5415853wao.27.1204751706531; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?130.216.38.124? ( [130.216.38.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v38sm2311687wah.7.2008.03.05.13.14.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:15:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47CF0D45.4060008@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:14:45 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <47CEF5C1.3070006@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <47CEF5C1.3070006@levkowetz.com> Cc: Pekka Savola , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Some oddities on IAB/IESG "WG pages" X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org >> On http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/, it's not obvious why >> 'draft-zinin-early-review' is listed as an IESG document. > > Well, right. But guess what I'm going to say here ,;-) ... > > That what the ietf database has it classified as ,,:-} That was correct at the time (and the time was quite some years ago). The General AD should decide whether to change it, since the document has faded away. Brian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 5 14:09:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C780F28C2A6; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:09:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.132 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.132 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.305, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HmQtv5wmBj93; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AAF28C822; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:08:54 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A7928C337 for ; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:04:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QBUnmAqO22Gf for ; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319843A6A24 for ; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thunder2.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E185481AE; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:03:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.amsl.com ([64.170.98.20]) by localhost (thunder2.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ovtwGxDA2N4G; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:03:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (c-76-103-55-1.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.103.55.1]) by thunder2.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4E6481A5; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:03:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47C8D5D9.1000102@amsl.com> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:04:41 -0800 From: Glen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <47C813CD.6050806@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <47C813CD.6050806@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:08:53 -0800 Cc: Tools Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [Fwd: getdrafts not working for IETF 71?] X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Done! Glen Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Glen, > > I'm forwarding an observation made on the tools-discuss@ietf.org list. > > It would be good if we by default could have Option MultiViews on in > the Apache config -- not only would it fix the problem below, but > knowing that this was set, we could start transitioning to URLs without > specified extensions, which would permit more flexibility in changing > between dynamically created pages and static pages in the future. > > > Best, > > Henrik > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Tools-discuss] getdrafts not working for IETF 71? > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:50:26 +0100 > From: Stephane Bortzmeyer > Organisation: NIC France > To: ekr@networkresonance.com > CC: tools-discuss@ietf.org > > getdrafts 1.02 does not download any draft for the next meeting: > > % getdrafts -V 08mar behave ippm > WG: behave > URL=http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/agenda/behave > Couldn't get agenda for behave > WG: ippm > URL=http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/agenda/ippm > Couldn't get agenda for ippm > NOT FOUND: WG: behave > NOT FOUND: WG: ippm > Found 0 out of 0 drafts > > > It seems that getdrafts relied on HTTP content negotiation (behave > agenda is behave.html and ippm agenda is ippm.txt) which does not (no > longer?) work on the IETF Web site. > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 5 14:09:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF3F28C76D; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:09:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.427 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.427 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.240, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, URIBL_GREY=0.25, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6BiusIXnGSWt; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737CE28C832; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:08:54 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF223A689C for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 03:49:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 244FUN7Pl9Mf for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 03:49:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-mx03.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.122.230]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A108A3A67B7 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 03:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-mx03.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m23BnGcQ028287 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:49:39 +0200 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:49:30 +0200 Received: from [10.144.27.162] ([10.144.27.162]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:49:30 +0200 Message-ID: <47CBE5CA.6060407@nsn.com> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:49:30 +0200 From: Miguel Garcia User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2008 11:49:30.0608 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4228700:01C87D24] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:08:53 -0800 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Bibliography of I-Ds and RFCs for LaTeX X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi all: Some time ago I created a bibliography of Internet-Drafts and RFCs in the .bib format used by BibTeX for LaTeX. These files allow to easily cite an RFC or I-D in a LaTeX document without the burden of typing the title, authors, date, etc. I created some TCL scripts that download the latest source of the I-D and RFC indexes and creates the corresponding BibTeX files. I also did the same for 3GPP specifications, since I had to cite a few of them. I did these scripts for my own benefit, since I was writing a book in LaTeX where I cite quite many hundreds of RFCs (and drafts as well). Recently I have received requests from people interested in getting the bibliography files, and I have made them available in the following web page: http://ea1dof.googlepages.com/bibtex The same people have also suggested to disseminate the information through the tools.ietf.org web site, so I here I am informing you of the existence of these BibTeX files, although it is not totally related to authoring RFCs unless the author uses LaTeX. So, if you consider this of general interest, you can link to the web page where I am storing the files. If you need further information, do not hesitate to come back to me. Cheers, Miguel Garcia -- Miguel A. Garcia tel:+358-50-4804586 Nokia Siemens Networks Espoo, Finland _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 5 23:34:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B708C28C843; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:34:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.447 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.447 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.010, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vhl8odQIv0+P; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03F528C64F; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:34:05 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F350C28C83A for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:34:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lBeVLa906Eix for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcore.fi (eunet-gw.ipv6.netcore.fi [IPv6:2001:670:86:3001::1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45FD28C265 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:33:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcore.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netcore.fi (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m267XQua029172; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:33:26 +0200 Received: from localhost (pekkas@localhost) by netcore.fi (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m267XPRZ029168; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:33:25 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:33:25 +0200 (EET) From: Pekka Savola To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <47CEF5C1.3070006@levkowetz.com> Message-ID: References: <47CEF5C1.3070006@levkowetz.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (LRH 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6139/Wed Mar 5 16:19:53 2008 on otso.netcore.fi X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Some oddities on IAB/IESG "WG pages" X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Also, at least draft-iab-iwout-report is listed as Expired, even though >> those should be RFC published (RFC4948 in this case). > > Right. Again, I'll point to the datatracker database being out of > date. In this case, I do have alternative datasources to use; I'll > do a re-write to use the more direct source for this (i.e., publication > status). This seems to be due to the datatracker/database bug that affected a couple of other documents as well (e.g., that's the reason why 'draft-iab-dns-choices moved to Dead and its state is still Dead even though it's in IAB's version of Last Call). I recall discussing this with Bill Fenner but can't find it in my mail archive. The problem is that when some documents were expired (some of them erroneously), the datatracker moved them from whatever state they were at (the dns-choices having been 'AD is watching') to Dead. I'd guess this issue is related. Those documents which were expired in this fashion and moved to Dead have fallen through the cracks in their status has not been updated. >> On http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/, it's not obvious why >> 'draft-zinin-early-review' is listed as an IESG document. > > Well, right. But guess what I'm going to say here ,;-) ... > > That what the ietf database has it classified as ,,:-} > > Suggestions for action/improvement? I wonder what IETF database you're talking about? The public datatracker does not know anything about draft-zinin-early-review. Is the information obtained from some other database or why doesn't it show on the public datatracker? With regard to the two IAB documents, until a document moves out of the "I-D exists" state, it appears it cannot be associated with WG or group context. As an improvement, I would consider WG documents all those documents which have draft-ietf- or draft-{iab,iesg} naming and additionally those which are specifically marked as a WG/group document in the tracker. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 6 17:02:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9B928C8E5; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:02:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.472 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.472 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.035, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iA2ijNsUJSGF; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:02:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA363A6AE4; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:02:38 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6935B3A6B08 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:02:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id azJqXufQEYkJ for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0D23A6920 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33511 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JXQyY-00036g-JE; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:02:20 +0100 Message-ID: <47D09419.9080801@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:02:17 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pekka Savola References: <47CEF5C1.3070006@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: pekkas@netcore.fi, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Some oddities on IAB/IESG "WG pages" X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0146153853==" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0146153853== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig86FFB9CDCBC75ECB2E0DFE04" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig86FFB9CDCBC75ECB2E0DFE04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pekka, On 2008-03-06 08:33 Pekka Savola said the following: > On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> Also, at least draft-iab-iwout-report is listed as Expired, even thou= gh=20 >>> those should be RFC published (RFC4948 in this case). >> Right. Again, I'll point to the datatracker database being out of >> date. In this case, I do have alternative datasources to use; I'll >> do a re-write to use the more direct source for this (i.e., publicatio= n >> status). >=20 > This seems to be due to the datatracker/database bug that affected a=20 > couple of other documents as well (e.g., that's the reason why=20 > 'draft-iab-dns-choices moved to Dead and its state is still Dead even=20 > though it's in IAB's version of Last Call). I recall discussing this=20 > with Bill Fenner but can't find it in my mail archive. The problem is = > that when some documents were expired (some of them erroneously), the=20 > datatracker moved them from whatever state they were at (the=20 > dns-choices having been 'AD is watching') to Dead. Ok. The database needs correcting, anyway. > I'd guess this issue is related. Those documents which were expired=20 > in this fashion and moved to Dead have fallen through the cracks in=20 > their status has not been updated. >=20 >>> On http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/, it's not obvious why=20 >>> 'draft-zinin-early-review' is listed as an IESG document. >> Well, right. But guess what I'm going to say here ,;-) ... >> >> That what the ietf database has it classified as ,,:-} >> >> Suggestions for action/improvement? >=20 > I wonder what IETF database you're talking about? The public=20 > datatracker does not know anything about draft-zinin-early-review. > Is the information obtained from some other database or why doesn't it = > show on the public datatracker? The IETF database has a bit more data than what is shown in the public datatracker; not, I believe, in order to hide anything, but simply as a result of the design choices done for the interface (which could do with a rewrite). In other words, there's just one database, and that is the one which holds both the information exposed through the public datatracker, and through the IESG interface, and also used to generate various files such as all_it.txt, 1id-index.txt, etc., and e.g. the meeting materials pages. > With regard to the two IAB documents, until a document moves out of=20 > the "I-D exists" state, it appears it cannot be associated with WG or=20 > group context. I believe that's incorrect -- see for instance this file, generated from the database: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/1id-index.txt > As an improvement, I would consider WG documents all those documents=20 > which have draft-ietf- or draft-{iab,iesg} naming and additionally = > those which are specifically marked as a WG/group document in the=20 > tracker. That would be a step backwards. Before I started parsing the 1id-index.t= xt, I had a lot more documents which had the wrong state (shown as WG docs, but weren't really or weren't any more), because I used the heuristics yo= u suggest... Regards, Henrik --------------enig86FFB9CDCBC75ECB2E0DFE04 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFH0JQZeVhrtTJkXCMRAtUzAKDUMwlS6eLuAV2js1yR08wtI8xouwCeKufc J3+d2WVXlrRxROcSEh67La0= =NdhZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig86FFB9CDCBC75ECB2E0DFE04-- --===============0146153853== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============0146153853==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 7 05:38:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1218C28C996; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 05:38:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.981 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.981 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.544, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id svAzZvU0CLta; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 05:38:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AB33A6A96; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 05:38:15 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58F728C989 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 05:38:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kkZ3Ih08Qf9F for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 05:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4939D3A6A93 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 05:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60477 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JXcil-0004u1-0D; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:34:47 +0100 Message-ID: <47D14475.8050008@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:34:45 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Matthews References: <6332B17E-682A-4D20-833E-F4A53C11AFE4@magma.ca> <4710FC54.4010809@levkowetz.com> <47110620.1020600@levkowetz.com> <40D91BE3-7890-4BA9-A8F3-FDDE7EBC7D4E@magma.ca> In-Reply-To: <40D91BE3-7890-4BA9-A8F3-FDDE7EBC7D4E@magma.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: philip_matthews@magma.ca, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Document fetch function X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Philip, On 2008-03-06 19:28 Philip Matthews said the following: ... > A space between RFC/rfc and the number no longer seems to work. Aggh. I wrecked that when I added some input (URL path) sanitation. Should be fixed now. Thanks for the alert! Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 10 11:42:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D343A6A1A; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:42:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.240, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GwYjGQa1CntQ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B6E3A690D; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:41:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CFB3A6959 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:41:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VFIG-woJMpvN for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx11.bbn.com (mx11.bbn.com [128.33.0.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AA83A690D for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dommiel.bbn.com ([192.1.122.15] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx11.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYmuA-0004R1-4p for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:39:22 -0400 Message-Id: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> From: Aaron Falk To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:39:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Subject: [Tools-discuss] jabber links X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I love the highly integrated agenda you have at http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/71/ . However, the jabber link, e.g., xmpp:hallway@jabber.ietf.org, doesn't do the right thing on my client, Adium. It opens a chat window not a groupchat window. I don't know whether this is an ambiguity or a bug but I thought I'd let you know. Also, there doesn't seem to be a stable jabber info page anywhere on the IETF/tools site. --aaron _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 10 15:13:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAF13A69EB; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.158 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.158 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.721, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7SNupNmFsygs; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F10E3A6DA0; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:13:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC383A6D73 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:13:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IsNRrzDyax-Z for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yxa.extundo.com (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF1828C3AE for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m2AM9f9Y017017 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:09:42 +0100 From: Simon Josefsson To: Aaron Falk References: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:080310:falk@bbn.com::iiCTV64als5n2wyu:0arZ X-Hashcash: 1:22:080310:tools-discuss@ietf.org::NQWTPhnuczZpirBx:CIHt Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:09:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> (Aaron Falk's message of "Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:39:21 -0400") Message-ID: <87d4q2cjtm.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] jabber links X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Aaron Falk writes: > I love the highly integrated agenda you have at > http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/71/ . I noticed this one now, nice work! Would it be possible to add links to the jabber logs too? I tend to spend some time locating the latest jabber log archives for WGs every now and then. Thanks, /Simon _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 10 15:30:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE0328C3BD; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.015 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.015 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.578, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dN8eqOQv1LwN; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1AB28C2DC; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B3E28C247 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ad-JFFAeZChg for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4108528C2DC for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52664 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JYqTg-0007Aw-1l; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:28:16 +0100 Message-ID: <47D5B5FF.8080700@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:28:15 -0400 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Falk References: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> In-Reply-To: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: falk@bbn.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] jabber links X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Aaron, On 2008-03-10 14:39 Aaron Falk said the following: > I love the highly integrated agenda you have at http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/71/ > . > > However, the jabber link, e.g., xmpp:hallway@jabber.ietf.org, doesn't > do the right thing on my client, Adium. It opens a chat window not a > groupchat window. I don't know whether this is an ambiguity or a bug > but I thought I'd let you know. Right -- I know, and it's an Adium problem, rather than a link problem. The Adium people have promised better room support in an upcoming release, but for now the links only work for some OS/Client combinations :-( > > Also, there doesn't seem to be a stable jabber info page anywhere on > the IETF/tools site. Ah. I'll forward this. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 10 15:47:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2533A69EB; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:47:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.882 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.882 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.445, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0VjwGG8zux32; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DC628C253; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-3-10, at 18:28, ext Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Right -- I know, and it's an Adium problem, rather than a link > problem. > The Adium people have promised better room support in an upcoming > release, > but for now the links only work for some OS/Client combinations :-( It seems to work in 1.2.4b1, posted earlier today: http://adiumx.com/beta/ Lars _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 11 06:26:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D1428C54A; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:26:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.419 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.419 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s5MbH9P+Abax; 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Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:41:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEC28A630; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:41:00 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 9DCFB4F667F; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:41:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:41:00 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: <20080310114100.GA16759@elstar.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.3 (20050822) at jacobs-university.de X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:23:57 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] access to the materials manager X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I have trouble to log into the materials manager. So I went to the loginmgr to reset my password but the new password also does not seem to work. When I submit the authentication dialog, I simply get it again - no error message or something like that. Are the tools.ietf.org and datatracker.ietf.org independent systems? If yes, what do I have to do to reset by datatracker credentials? /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 11 09:38:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4AF28C2FD; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:38:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.474, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gf-6VhMWDdz1; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFDE3A6A6F; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:38:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A726F28C29C for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ka+faBTRuHoh for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-mx09.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.105.134]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E9B28C10F for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh106.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.213]) by mgw-mx09.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m2BGWu4j027781; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:37:43 -0500 Received: from esebh104.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.34]) by esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:35:45 +0200 Received: from vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.160.244.59]) by esebh104.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:35:45 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:35:42 +0200 Message-ID: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB7213BFA6@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <20080310114100.GA16759@elstar.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] access to the materials manager Thread-Index: AciDe0EmzZ1fYXktQY2WgRexjpJhBgAGgOJg References: <20080310114100.GA16759@elstar.local> From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2008 16:35:45.0345 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4616B10:01C88395] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] access to the materials manager X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Juergen, They are independent systems. If you've lost your password for datatracker.ietf.org, email ietf-action@ietf.org to create a ticket. Best regards, Pasi > -----Original Message----- > From: Juergen Schoenwaelder > Sent: 10 March, 2008 13:41 > To: tools-discuss@ietf.org > Subject: [Tools-discuss] access to the materials manager > > Hi, > > I have trouble to log into the materials manager. So I went to the > loginmgr to reset my password but the new password also does not seem > to work. When I submit the authentication dialog, I simply get it > again - no error message or something like that. > > Are the tools.ietf.org and datatracker.ietf.org independent systems? > If yes, what do I have to do to reset by datatracker credentials? > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 11 10:04:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B0028C24D; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:04:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.540, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rLIaTE6nCcsE; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E2D3A6A9C; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:04:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3C53A6A9C for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:04:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ksAkacQKdoA6 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0155328C24D for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36453 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JZ7ra-0000IP-AJ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:02:07 +0100 Message-ID: <47D6BB0D.2050305@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:02:05 -0400 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de References: <20080310114100.GA16759@elstar.local> In-Reply-To: <20080310114100.GA16759@elstar.local> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] access to the materials manager X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Juergen, On 2008-03-10 07:41 Juergen Schoenwaelder said the following: > Hi, > > I have trouble to log into the materials manager. So I went to the > loginmgr to reset my password but the new password also does not seem > to work. When I submit the authentication dialog, I simply get it > again - no error message or something like that. > > Are the tools.ietf.org and datatracker.ietf.org independent systems? Yes, for now. We're actively working on making them use the same passwords, but that update isn't in place yet. > If yes, what do I have to do to reset by datatracker credentials? Send an email to ietf-action@ietf.org and request that they verify that j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de has the needed access rights, and that they give you a new password. Regards, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 11 10:13:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555863A69CC; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:13:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.342 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.342 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.905, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AN32e3s6PHeF; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCA33A682C; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:13:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B330F3A67F1 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:13:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aw0r5ZJMhD2H for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neustar.com (ns7.neustar.com [156.154.24.88]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6D83A682C for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:13:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; d=neustar.biz; s=neustarbiz; c=simple/simple; q=dns; t=1205255474; x=1205341874; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XrlyMZgeQxj7TICB2P/2FZ5TKxc985Nw/3VOnO0KhUhl3aNbCNflNnoKh/lWoWhnmM1a8s1yXhujor DQJsGAzg== Received: from ([156.154.4.253]) by chihiron2.nc.neustar.com with ESMTP id 5202415.3491720; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:10:54 -0400 Message-ID: <47D6BD1F.4050001@neustar.biz> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:10:55 -0700 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools List Subject: [Tools-discuss] are IETF tools developers here @ IETF-71 Philly ? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org are IETF tools developers here @ IETF-71 Philly ? If so, I'm interested in chatting F2F for a few minutes if you have time, thanks. =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 11 20:03:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944F528C46F; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:03:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.305, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_LWSHORTT=1.24, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zTHDmWuzU4Ri; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A276D28C133; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:03:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706C828C133 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:03:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eL-krz3VKunX for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx12.bbn.com (mx12.bbn.com [128.33.0.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFE03A6B7B for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dommiel.bbn.com ([192.1.122.15] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx12.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZHDT-00005P-5h; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:01:19 -0400 Message-Id: <192DE2BB-EDAA-4E4E-8534-6263504E9678@bbn.com> From: Aaron Falk To: Kevin Fall In-Reply-To: <493594CF-A4A4-470D-88D8-DA05777C8504@cs.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:01:19 -0400 References: <0EB90819-292C-466F-892A-229EA73C6016@cs.berkeley.edu> <493594CF-A4A4-470D-88D8-DA05777C8504@cs.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IRTF documents tracker ("my tickets") X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1360353031==" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org --===============1360353031== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-39--649587550 --Apple-Mail-39--649587550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FWIW, I get the same behavior (and, yes, I'm sure I'm logged in). Never noticed it before as I don't generally use that report. --aaron ---------- On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Kevin Fall wrote: > One other issue with the tracker.... when I navigate to "My > Tickets", I only see this: > > {7} My Tickets > This report demonstrates the use of the automatically set $USER > dynamic variable, replaced with the username of the logged in user > when executed. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > thx, > > - K > > > > On Mar 9, 2008, at Mar 910:29 AMPDT, Kevin Fall wrote: > >> >> Hi guys. >> I'm trying to update document status in the tracker for IRTF >> documents, currently residing here: >> >> http://www1.tools.ietf.org/group/irtf/trac/report >> >> I -think- I have an account here under the name "kfall@eecs.berkeley.edu >> ", but can't seem to login. >> So, I have a couple of questions: >> >> short term: could somebody please help me out with the login? >> longer term: the following document: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-rfcs-01 >> >> suggests the IRTF and IETF trackers will become one in the same >> some day. Is there a chance of lighting the fire on doing so? >> >> thx, >> - Kevin [DTNRG co-chair] >> > --Apple-Mail-39--649587550 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FWIW, I get the same behavior = (and, yes, I'm sure I'm logged in).  Never noticed it before as I = don't generally use that report.

--aaron

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On Mar 11, = 2008, at 9:07 PM, Kevin Fall wrote:

One other issue with the = tracker.... when I navigate to "My Tickets", I only see this:

{7} My = Tickets

This report demonstrates the use = of the automatically set $USER dynamic variable, replaced with the = username of the logged in user when executed.


Any ideas?


thx,

- K


On Mar 9, = 2008, at Mar 910:29 AMPDT, Kevin Fall wrote:


Hi = guys.
I'm trying to update document status in the tracker for IRTF = documents, currently residing here:

http://www1.too= ls.ietf.org/group/irtf/trac/report

I -think- I have an = account here under the name "kfall@eecs.berkeley.edu", = but can't seem to login.
So, I have a couple of = questions:

short term: could somebody please help me out with the = login?
longer term:  the following document:

http://tools.ietf.o= rg/html/draft-irtf-rfcs-01

suggests the IRTF and IETF = trackers will become one in the same some day.  Is there a chance = of lighting the fire on doing so?

thx,
- Kevin [DTNRG = co-chair]


= --Apple-Mail-39--649587550-- --===============1360353031== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============1360353031==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 05:15:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFC628C665; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:15:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.479 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.479 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-3.081, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_LWSHORTT=1.24, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bju0u82xMP1I; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB8628C66F; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:15:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4802F28C653 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:15:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZoBCGHcJGwdA for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F4728C65E for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40535 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JZPpF-0008SW-7U; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:12:54 +0100 Message-ID: <47D7C8C3.2080103@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:12:51 -0400 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Falk References: <0EB90819-292C-466F-892A-229EA73C6016@cs.berkeley.edu> <493594CF-A4A4-470D-88D8-DA05777C8504@cs.berkeley.edu> <192DE2BB-EDAA-4E4E-8534-6263504E9678@bbn.com> In-Reply-To: <192DE2BB-EDAA-4E4E-8534-6263504E9678@bbn.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: falk@bbn.com, kfall@cs.berkeley.edu, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Kevin Fall , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IRTF documents tracker ("my tickets") X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-03-11 23:01 Aaron Falk said the following: > FWIW, I get the same behavior (and, yes, I'm sure I'm logged in). > Never noticed it before as I don't generally use that report. If you have issues assigned to you, you should see a table listing them too. The explanatory text seems to be directed more to the person supposed to customize the tracker than to the user, but the functionality works for me ;-) Henrik > --aaron > > ---------- > > > > On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Kevin Fall wrote: > >> One other issue with the tracker.... when I navigate to "My >> Tickets", I only see this: >> >> {7} My Tickets >> This report demonstrates the use of the automatically set $USER >> dynamic variable, replaced with the username of the logged in user >> when executed. >> >> >> >> Any ideas? >> >> >> >> thx, >> >> - K >> >> >> >> On Mar 9, 2008, at Mar 910:29 AMPDT, Kevin Fall wrote: >> >>> Hi guys. >>> I'm trying to update document status in the tracker for IRTF >>> documents, currently residing here: >>> >>> http://www1.tools.ietf.org/group/irtf/trac/report >>> >>> I -think- I have an account here under the name "kfall@eecs.berkeley.edu >>> ", but can't seem to login. >>> So, I have a couple of questions: >>> >>> short term: could somebody please help me out with the login? >>> longer term: the following document: >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-rfcs-01 >>> >>> suggests the IRTF and IETF trackers will become one in the same >>> some day. Is there a chance of lighting the fire on doing so? >>> >>> thx, >>> - Kevin [DTNRG co-chair] >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 05:39:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA4028C6EE; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:39:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6AunQBOaHDXL; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A02A28C6EF; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:39:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5654C28C6A5 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:39:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PU6k0R27Ee6R for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcore.fi (eunet-gw.ipv6.netcore.fi [IPv6:2001:670:86:3001::1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B1E28C658 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcore.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netcore.fi (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2CCbDNm018255 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:37:13 +0200 Received: from localhost (pekkas@localhost) by netcore.fi (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m2CCbCr5018251 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:37:13 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:37:12 +0200 (EET) From: Pekka Savola To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (LRH 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6204/Tue Mar 11 22:43:31 2008 on otso.netcore.fi X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: [Tools-discuss] Stats of citations inside RFC series X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, It just occurred to me that it might be interesting to see which of our RFCs are most cited within the RFC series (RFC2119 no doubt being the highest). For more fine-grained stats, you could look how many of the citations are between documents from the same WG and the same area (cross-pollination aspects). You could possibly see the stats on per-WG basis (e.g., on the tools.ietf.org/wg/foo page) or per author-basis (e.g., extension to Jari's authorstats tools) While in many cases the primary consumers of RFCs are vendors, not other IETF WGs, this might shed some light on the latter. Has anyone worked on something like this? -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 06:05:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0645F28C7DC; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:05:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.564 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.564 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.127, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ric0RoKoAJmP; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBC728C7AD; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:04:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0833228C462 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:04:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K54FZknMRU+2 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx11.bbn.com (mx11.bbn.com [128.33.0.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294D728C7EB for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dommiel.bbn.com ([192.1.122.15] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx11.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZQa0-0000Dz-6O for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:01:13 -0400 Message-Id: From: Aaron Falk To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:01:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Subject: [Tools-discuss] bof jabber rooms X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Is it deliberate that the agenda at http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/71 doesn't have links to BoF jabber rooms? C.f. IDN BoF. --aaron _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 06:31:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA01B28C701; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:31:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.591 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.591 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.154, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D+2q2HdsnDSC; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26E928C710; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726B628C6EA for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:31:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SauW8ZZ9txHV for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A4728C302 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38189 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JZR15-00073t-Mq; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:29:11 +0100 Message-ID: <47D7DAA6.5080307@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:29:10 -0400 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Falk References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: falk@bbn.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] bof jabber rooms X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Aaron, On 2008-03-12 09:01 Aaron Falk said the following: > Is it deliberate that the agenda at http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/71 > doesn't have links to BoF jabber rooms? C.f. IDN BoF. No, that's a bug :-) I'll see what I can do. I think the mechanism I used to tease out the jabber room information for BOFs have broken with the transition to the new secretariat. There was never a well-defined procedure for the setup and naming of those... Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 06:53:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB173A6D25; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:53:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.589 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.589 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.152, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RqmVUPp-sGsi; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D914F3A6BE4; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:53:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6145F3A686F for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:53:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7zMCZdekpS9g for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A643A6A61 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33799 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JZRJS-0008Pr-Lf; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:48:10 +0100 Message-ID: <47D7DF19.1070101@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:48:09 -0400 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eggert References: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> <47D5B5FF.8080700@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: lars.eggert@nokia.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, falk@bbn.com, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Aaron Falk Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] jabber links X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-03-10 18:44 Lars Eggert said the following: > On 2008-3-10, at 18:28, ext Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Right -- I know, and it's an Adium problem, rather than a link >> problem. >> The Adium people have promised better room support in an upcoming >> release, >> but for now the links only work for some OS/Client combinations :-( > > It seems to work in 1.2.4b1, posted earlier today: http://adiumx.com/beta/ Yes, now it works, in the latest Adium! Yay! Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 07:48:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C30B28C67E; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:48:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.141, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IHzHvoBDp111; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5575E28C730; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:47:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0696528C4D2 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:47:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6L8WZPI9DfSH for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx12.bbn.com (mx12.bbn.com [128.33.0.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1769F28C73B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dommiel.bbn.com ([192.1.122.15] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx12.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZSC6-0006tw-4c; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:44:38 -0400 Message-Id: <1083BFCF-CE99-4566-85B2-A04467406718@bbn.com> From: Aaron Falk To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <47D7DAA6.5080307@levkowetz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:44:38 -0400 References: <47D7DAA6.5080307@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] bof jabber rooms X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On Mar 12, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Aaron, > > On 2008-03-12 09:01 Aaron Falk said the following: >> Is it deliberate that the agenda at http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/ >> 71 doesn't have links to BoF jabber rooms? C.f. IDN BoF. > > No, that's a bug :-) > > I'll see what I can do. I think the mechanism I used to tease out > the jabber room information for BOFs have broken with the transition > to the new secretariat. There was never a well-defined procedure for > the setup and naming of those... > > > Henrik Ah, well the plot thickens in the case of IDN which is both the name of a bof and a working group. The agenda page shows the BoF agenda but labels it a 'Concluded WG' and points to the closed wg's charter. Dunno how you handle this ambiguity.... http://tools.ietf.org/wg/idn/agenda?item=agenda71.html --aaron _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 10:36:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2811128C6AA; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.814 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.814 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.377, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rxwVm70+Huo5; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBAF3A6E44; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:35:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EEC3A6E44 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:35:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69izWBGROTmi for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0013A6E75 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51122 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JZUmZ-0001uC-UZ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:30:28 +0100 Message-ID: <47D81333.2070007@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:30:27 -0400 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Falk References: <47D7DAA6.5080307@levkowetz.com> <1083BFCF-CE99-4566-85B2-A04467406718@bbn.com> In-Reply-To: <1083BFCF-CE99-4566-85B2-A04467406718@bbn.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: falk@bbn.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] bof jabber rooms X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Ouch. Ouch. Name collision. I don't even want to work around this, I want to discover how to prevent it from happening again. Gumph. I'll try to look into that. Henrik On 2008-03-12 10:44 Aaron Falk said the following: > On Mar 12, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >> Hi Aaron, >> >> On 2008-03-12 09:01 Aaron Falk said the following: >>> Is it deliberate that the agenda at http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/ >>> 71 doesn't have links to BoF jabber rooms? C.f. IDN BoF. >> No, that's a bug :-) >> >> I'll see what I can do. I think the mechanism I used to tease out >> the jabber room information for BOFs have broken with the transition >> to the new secretariat. There was never a well-defined procedure for >> the setup and naming of those... >> >> >> Henrik > > Ah, well the plot thickens in the case of IDN which is both the name > of a bof and a working group. The agenda page shows the BoF agenda > but labels it a 'Concluded WG' and points to the closed wg's charter. > Dunno how you handle this ambiguity.... > > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/idn/agenda?item=agenda71.html > > --aaron > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 13:55:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E660828C68C; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:55:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.47 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.47 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id maRtrGdvSaxU; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A4228C4D3; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:55:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531803A68E4 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XL4H3wjVpky4 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D613A67E4 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDD01986EB for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:53:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDA719865F for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:53:06 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:53:07 -0400 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF TOOLS discussion X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I'm trying to compile some age old XML source on xml2rfc. I get this: can't read "validity": no such variable on line XXX And XXX is larger than the number of lines in the file. Any ideas what I should try to do? There is no XML code in the file that has the string "validity" in it, though there are some text pieces with it... there are no other errors before this, except a warning about the use of full2026. Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 14:04:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3ED3A6F0E; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:04:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.792 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.792 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.355, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k8B2phLwse0M; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E36128C417; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:04:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2B93A67AF for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:04:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2A3hK1UvuO-T for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EBC8828C417 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Mar 2008 21:01:41 -0000 Received: from p508F8EEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.142.235] by mail.gmx.net (mp024) with SMTP; 12 Mar 2008 22:01:41 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/CvSVQ2KfCUb1QV2d1Ydut7qSIaSZWj0obaeOjls OiULCcax3iMpCG Message-ID: <47D844A4.8070206@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:01:24 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko References: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Jari Arkko wrote: > I'm trying to compile some age old XML source on xml2rfc. I get this: > > can't read "validity": no such variable on line XXX > > And XXX is larger than the number of lines in the file. Any ideas what I > should try to do? There is no XML code in the file that has the string > "validity" in it, though there are some text pieces with it... there are > no other errors before this, except a warning about the use of full2026. So what exactly does that warning say? BR, Julian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 14:08:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21053A6A49; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:08:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.466 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.466 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.029, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Snpdnc9piZj7; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCDB3A68F6; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:08:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1150D3A68A3 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:08:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E6ssd2DCCJ4s for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168093A68D4 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB0B1986EB; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:05:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8856F19865F; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:05:41 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47D845A6.70205@piuha.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:05:42 -0400 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Reschke References: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> <47D844A4.8070206@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <47D844A4.8070206@gmx.de> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Julian, > So what exactly does that warning say? > xml2rfc: warning: ipr="full2026" attribute value is outdated compared to RFC 3978 around input line 4 Not sure it matters. Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 14:27:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E333128C375; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:27:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.464, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k7KcH5CJEiaJ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D6A3A6EFF; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:27:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE88E3A6EF5 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tL8L5rVpOr7v for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 642BF28C56F for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Mar 2008 21:24:42 -0000 Received: from p508F8EEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.142.235] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 12 Mar 2008 22:24:42 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18NaHJ8QaQNeIINt2OAnpLt3Hy5OICgFFrS6G2fpr UpfZuSodw4c+hm Message-ID: <47D84A0F.2080106@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:24:31 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko References: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> <47D844A4.8070206@gmx.de> <47D845A6.70205@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <47D845A6.70205@piuha.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Jari Arkko wrote: > Julian, > >> So what exactly does that warning say? >> > > xml2rfc: warning: ipr="full2026" attribute value is outdated compared to > RFC 3978 around input line 4 > > Not sure it matters. OK, sounds like a bug in xml2rfc, which doesn't expect the outdated IPR value to be used. You can probably get rid of it by using "full3978". BR, Julian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 14:31:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A0328C846; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:31:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.464 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.027, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g2LJM+vt6WIP; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670FA28C80E; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:31:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C05428C7DA for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:31:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3zLWm1-S-eZx for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A733A6EE3 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0F119870F; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:28:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F6C1986FA; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:28:41 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47D84B0A.6000808@piuha.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:28:42 -0400 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Reschke References: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> <47D844A4.8070206@gmx.de> <47D845A6.70205@piuha.net> <47D84A0F.2080106@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <47D84A0F.2080106@gmx.de> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Julian, > sounds like a bug in xml2rfc, which doesn't expect the outdated IPR > value to be used. > > You can probably get rid of it by using "full3978". > Wow, I'm surprised. It was indeed this. I moved to full3978 and the error disappeared, too. Thanks! Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 14:42:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADA53A6A4C; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:42:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.540, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p0Qmg5htWFvs; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A577128C439; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:42:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4976B28C2AF for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:42:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9T4QgHsw0AMu for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us (drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us [168.143.123.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDAC28C4E3 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m2CLdbNf017901; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:39:37 -0700 From: Marshall Rose To: Jari Arkko In-Reply-To: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> References: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> Message-Id: <9C272165-4B50-4A51-B69C-DDAC348A8C66@dbc.mtview.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:39:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org > I'm trying to compile some age old XML source on xml2rfc. I get this: > > can't read "validity": no such variable on line XXX what is the value of "XXX" ? what version of xml2rfc are you running? /mtr _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 16:18:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E3E3A6B3A; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:18:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.862 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.862 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.425, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B0EkUViqNrYB; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3B33A696B; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:18:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D9E3A696B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:18:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q57rXJ-i+f2i for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576F03A68A9 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55650 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JZaAk-0005ON-SG; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:15:47 +0100 Message-ID: <47D86421.2060505@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:15:45 -0400 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Josefsson References: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> <87d4q2cjtm.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <87d4q2cjtm.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: simon@josefsson.org, falk@bbn.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Aaron Falk Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] jabber links X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Simon, On 2008-03-10 18:09 Simon Josefsson said the following: > Aaron Falk writes: > >> I love the highly integrated agenda you have at >> http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/71/ . > > I noticed this one now, nice work! Would it be possible to add links to > the jabber logs too? I tend to spend some time locating the latest > jabber log archives for WGs every now and then. Added. Let me know if the revised version looks and works OK. Best, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 13 00:53:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC44528C5C5; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:53:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.163 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.163 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.726, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n6yaw8MsIWMI; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1801F3A6CA2; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:53:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1993928C21F for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:53:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zhta86QLKUTH for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1523A6BE9 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JZiDa-0008Bp-BR for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:51:14 +0000 Received: from hmbg-d9b88e38.pool.mediaways.net ([217.184.142.56]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:51:14 +0000 Received: from nobody by hmbg-d9b88e38.pool.mediaways.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:51:14 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:53:48 +0100 Organization: Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: hmbg-d9b88e38.pool.mediaways.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Stats of citations inside RFC series X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Pekka Savola wrote: > Has anyone worked on something like this? Dunno, but I'm aware of a list with RFCs using MD5: A list of the "most popular" RFCs by normative or just any reference in other RFCs could help to identify RFCs ready for promotion. Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 13 04:20:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3AC3A6A45; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.811, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rGUE25BAr--H; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396803A6B5C; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:20:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA353A6B5C for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:20:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qndujh5Ywdio for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8B93A6A45 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E991986FB; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:18:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC981986CC; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:18:02 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47D90D6B.4060904@piuha.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:18:03 -0400 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marshall Rose References: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> <9C272165-4B50-4A51-B69C-DDAC348A8C66@dbc.mtview.ca.us> In-Reply-To: <9C272165-4B50-4A51-B69C-DDAC348A8C66@dbc.mtview.ca.us> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Marshall Rose kirjoitti: >> I'm trying to compile some age old XML source on xml2rfc. I get this: >> >> can't read "validity": no such variable on line XXX >> > > > what is the value of "XXX" ? > it was 1 + number of lines in the source file. > what version of xml2rfc are you running? > 1.32. I have sent you XML source in a separate mail. Jari > /mtr > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 13 08:50:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2040528C7E8; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:50:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.797 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.797 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.360, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HQi6WX3IjdXJ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC5A28C1D7; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:50:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DFA28C4CD for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:50:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5pTpa38Oc6yO for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us (drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us [168.143.123.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AF228C907 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m2DFkqvO018130; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:47:35 -0700 From: Marshall Rose To: Jari Arkko In-Reply-To: <47D90D6B.4060904@piuha.net> References: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> <9C272165-4B50-4A51-B69C-DDAC348A8C66@dbc.mtview.ca.us> <47D90D6B.4060904@piuha.net> Message-Id: <95C72A75-6342-44B0-945B-64A9CF99D38E@dbc.mtview.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:47:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org >> what version of xml2rfc are you running? >> > > 1.32. > > I have sent you XML source in a separate mail. hi. the bug was fixed in v1.33 -- http://xml.resource.org/ /mtr _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 13 10:16:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5A828C37E; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:16:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.797 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.797 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.360, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2fhpNNs-+k+4; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E56328C1F0; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:16:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5635D28C1B4 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:16:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0f4du6c-KH5P for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE26F28C13D for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EAC198701; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:13:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5E11986CC; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:13:36 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47D960C1.1040906@piuha.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:13:37 -0400 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marshall Rose References: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> <9C272165-4B50-4A51-B69C-DDAC348A8C66@dbc.mtview.ca.us> <47D90D6B.4060904@piuha.net> <95C72A75-6342-44B0-945B-64A9CF99D38E@dbc.mtview.ca.us> In-Reply-To: <95C72A75-6342-44B0-945B-64A9CF99D38E@dbc.mtview.ca.us> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thanks. I am in the process of installing the new version. Jari Marshall Rose kirjoitti: >>> what version of xml2rfc are you running? >>> >> >> 1.32. >> >> I have sent you XML source in a separate mail. > > hi. the bug was fixed in v1.33 -- http://xml.resource.org/ > > /mtr > > > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 13 15:19:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6883328C8B8; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:19:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.153, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kYeK+kQI+kD9; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209C228C8B4; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:19:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFBB28C88F for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xfPJNxBH1Kye for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx11.bbn.com (mx11.bbn.com [128.33.0.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6229528C125 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dommiel.bbn.com ([192.1.122.15] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx11.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZvjw-0001HA-4n for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:17:32 -0400 Message-Id: From: Aaron Falk To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:17:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Subject: [Tools-discuss] suggestion for meeting materials manager X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org hi folks- I suggest putting the IETF number in the file name of meeting materials. This would resolve ambiguities when multiple files end up on my machine. For example, plenaryt-2.pdf would be ietf71- plenaryt-2.pdf. --aaron _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 14 04:59:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B75F28C7D7; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:59:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.175 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.175 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.360, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id posmgs9lrcmd; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83EB3A68BA; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:59:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35AE28C2C4 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:59:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dc8hGn0M+CPS for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B0D3A6837 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so2877645wra.13 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.16 with SMTP id r16mr6241000ybg.198.1205495842176; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.185.15 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54e226890803140457o1022e5e8g3709e908960ccb88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:57:22 -0400 From: "Bill Fenner" To: "Jari Arkko" In-Reply-To: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 3/12/08, Jari Arkko wrote: > I'm trying to compile some age old XML source on xml2rfc. I get this: > > can't read "validity": no such variable on line XXX This was a bug in 1.32, when it went to go output some of the boilerplate but you weren't using 3978 ipr. I think it's fixed in 1.33, can you check? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 14 06:44:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D823A6F5A; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:44:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.124 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.124 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.309, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nuPg8cNS7y+K; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0B93A6F42; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:44:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E093A6C9D for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:44:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Me8SRE0c72Dm for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.188]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8193A6F51 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a46so2609747rne.9 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.84.12 with SMTP id m12mr6314062ybl.169.1205502115866; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.185.15 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54e226890803140641r48124011t37aff5310e553097@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:41:55 -0400 From: "Bill Fenner" To: "Pekka Savola" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Stats of citations inside RFC series X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 3/12/08, Pekka Savola wrote: > It just occurred to me that it might be interesting to see which of > our RFCs are most cited within the RFC series (RFC2119 no doubt being > the highest). The database behind http://www.fenron.com/~fenner/ietf/deps/ can do some of this: mysql> select dep,count(*) as refs from dep where doc like 'rfc%' and dep like 'rfc%' group by dep order by refs desc limit 20; +---------+------+ | dep | refs | +---------+------+ | rfc2119 | 1812 | | rfc822 | 442 | | rfc791 | 339 | | rfc2434 | 326 | | rfc1157 | 254 | | rfc793 | 233 | | rfc2578 | 229 | | rfc2579 | 225 | | rfc2026 | 223 | | rfc1035 | 222 | | rfc1034 | 221 | | rfc2580 | 210 | | rfc3261 | 203 | | rfc1213 | 196 | | rfc2401 | 194 | | rfc2045 | 182 | | rfc1155 | 182 | | rfc2234 | 169 | | rfc768 | 167 | | rfc1700 | 166 | +---------+------+ > Has anyone worked on something like this? The more fine-grained data would be pretty easily available to correlate, I think. Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 14 06:58:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763C83A6F5C; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:58:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.064 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.064 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.249, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kRV3w6rRdvQu; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B950A3A6F71; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:58:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971D23A6F71 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:58:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lDgOL-sydsYi for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.190]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B6328C13B for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a46so2616527rne.9 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.196.5 with SMTP id t5mr6336341ybf.109.1205502881334; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.185.15 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54e226890803140654y21c1c604jc843e936e8c700c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:54:41 -0400 From: "Bill Fenner" To: "Pekka Savola" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <47CEF5C1.3070006@levkowetz.com> Cc: Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Some oddities on IAB/IESG "WG pages" X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 3/6/08, Pekka Savola wrote: > On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >> On http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/, it's not obvious why > >> 'draft-zinin-early-review' is listed as an IESG document. > > > > Well, right. But guess what I'm going to say here ,;-) ... > > > > That what the ietf database has it classified as ,,:-} > > > > Suggestions for action/improvement? > > > I wonder what IETF database you're talking about? The public > datatracker does not know anything about draft-zinin-early-review. You can see this database in action at https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/draft-zinin-early-review/ . "IETF Working Group: Internet Engineering Steering Group" is a little odd but gets the point across. > With regard to the two IAB documents, until a document moves out of > the "I-D exists" state, it appears it cannot be associated with WG or > group context. That's not the case - there are many, many working group drafts in "I-D exists". > As an improvement, I would consider WG documents all those documents > which have draft-ietf- or draft-{iab,iesg} naming and additionally > those which are specifically marked as a WG/group document in the > tracker. The IESG as a policy started moving away from allowing documents that violate these assumptions (e.g., the policy became "resubmit the document with a new name" instead of "change the field in the database for the old document"), but there are still exceptions. Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 15 15:07:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319D53A6CC8; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:07:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.707 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.707 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.270, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h1zNRfOgAYS4; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5D63A6AEA; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:06:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24C63A6AE2 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:06:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CyB0Mw3PCrMm for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (cl-240.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4830:1200:ef::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4043A6940 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.162] (dsl-63-249-108-169.cruzio.com [63.249.108.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2FM4Var007795 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:04:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:04:29 -0700 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Subject: [Tools-discuss] Proposal for a simpler remind-on-draft-expiration tool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Greetings again. On thinking a bit more about the desire to know when my drafts expire, I realized that y'all could make a simple tool that lets people sign up for such notifications *by email address*. Each day when drafts expire, you can compare the email addresses of the authors with that of the list of subscribers and then send out notices based on a match. This avoids sending out messages to everyone, or of making people subscribe to their drafts one-by-one. As before, extra points for the tool doing this a week before the drafts expire. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 15 19:57:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3031F3A6B01; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:57:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.218 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.218 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.781, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6+MYVHvraBNX; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B9C3A6A57; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:57:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A050F3A6A57 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:57:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y+Wf0zOiWmDI for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail203.messagelabs.com (mail203.messagelabs.com [216.82.254.243]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1633A67F1 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:57:35 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: tony@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-203.messagelabs.com!1205636115!8998984!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.128.141] Received: (qmail 18498 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2008 02:55:16 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp9.sbc.com (HELO flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com) (144.160.128.141) by server-11.tower-203.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Mar 2008 02:55:16 -0000 Received: from enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2G2tICc017886 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:55:18 -0700 Received: from klph001.kcdc.att.com (klph001.kcdc.att.com [135.188.3.11]) by flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2G2tCfA017869 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:55:12 -0700 Received: from kcdc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by klph001.kcdc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m2G2tCOD005934 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:55:12 -0500 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by klph001.kcdc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m2G2t3am005873 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:55:08 -0500 Received: from [135.210.96.84] (unknown[135.210.96.84](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20080316025503gw100l7o2je> (Authid: tony); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:55:03 +0000 Message-ID: <47DC8C3E.5070700@att.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:55:58 -0400 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Proposal for a simpler remind-on-draft-expiration tool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org If it's not going to be automatic for all email addresses of all expiring drafts, I'd prefer having a pre-selected option on the I-D submission form to indicate that I want to be notified. And +100 on the "do it a week before the I-D expires" notion. Tony Hansen tony@att.com Paul Hoffman wrote: > Greetings again. On thinking a bit more about the desire to know when > my drafts expire, I realized that y'all could make a simple tool that > lets people sign up for such notifications *by email address*. Each > day when drafts expire, you can compare the email addresses of the > authors with that of the list of subscribers and then send out > notices based on a match. This avoids sending out messages to > everyone, or of making people subscribe to their drafts one-by-one. > > As before, extra points for the tool doing this a week before the > drafts expire. _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 16 00:30:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0A63A6C91; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:30:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.081, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o24Zi6ls2TqR; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790393A6C00; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:30:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7503A6C4B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:30:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ceCNmV0jLIPy for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1853A6ABC for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:30:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from [127.0.0.1] (maildrop [134.102.201.19]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m2G7SK4T014606; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:28:20 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: Carsten Bormann To: tools-discuss@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <47DC8C3E.5070700@att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:28:19 +0100 References: <47DC8C3E.5070700@att.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Carsten Bormann Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Proposal for a simpler remind-on-draft-expiration tool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org For those WG chairs that live in RSS-land, something akin to http://tools.ietf.org/wg/rohc/new-ids.rss would also be helpful in order to know about WG drafts are about to expire (or have expired!). In order to hack tools like these, it would be nice if there was an exposed XML interface to the internet_drafts table (preferably in a form compatible with active-resource, but any XML would do). Gruesse, Carsten _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 16 08:17:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F10E28C1ED; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:17:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.112, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uznbcEDdeD+t; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CF828C118; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:17:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9ACB3A6D6A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:17:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GAsx+L2jAZgY for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD073A6D62 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x19so6548091pyg.24 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:15:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:sender; bh=lbZZgNFeeNYad8BfWLgOGLQwxqMjIuXGZFXNt8f3pno=; b=RtgqRymIz3zIiof4OYmlYsRGeO/yijRGI6kNFZZzWGIn+TbGwxHMNwvTAemZy9S+brUccvREaPz7scGlyythVvkxt/WDGgOgO1F31840Gl7psZqnvAak0nYQU0Xzc5SfMvv0/GqFQIcH3h5w3che7K+kT60WIkkEUzDRjem82Y0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:sender; b=VS/yDbd7ztDSkMADoacvFDL8bMCpOJaojUQkkY7vArpP5Ow6DJAzuVchxg58PnaC6qtzWEytTyUHx3mxxayRa/HayyC1fss+p8Vki+6QsiTbmk20VesWe+tEvLoFiuLiSzcCamEiyCeYz2ktocq9Ee6FkQi31P8YLsdByglJxVU= Received: by 10.64.76.15 with SMTP id y15mr28868003qba.88.1205680520088; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?12.24.117.95? ( [12.24.117.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q19sm17955577qbq.16.2008.03.16.08.15.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Lars Eggert To: ext Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:15:16 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Proposal for a simpler remind-on-draft-expiration tool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-3-15, at 18:04, ext Paul Hoffman wrote: > Greetings again. On thinking a bit more about the desire to know when > my drafts expire, I realized that y'all could make a simple tool that > lets people sign up for such notifications *by email address*. Each > day when drafts expire, you can compare the email addresses of the > authors with that of the list of subscribers and then send out > notices based on a match. This avoids sending out messages to > everyone, or of making people subscribe to their drafts one-by-one. FWIW, the tracker already emails the AD when drafts in state "AD is watching" expire. But it only emails the AD, and I don't know how much surgery would be required to have it always email/CC draft-foo@tools.ietf.org , even when draft-foo isn't in "AD is watching". Lars _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 16 08:39:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF4A28C3AE; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:39:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-3.081, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L2Q4Wt7BpyhX; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF853A6CA3; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:39:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5A23A6CA3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:39:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jRhtcx0fUKlt for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com (rtp-iport-2.cisco.com [64.102.122.149]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614273A68CB for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:39:34 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,509,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="1893659" Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2008 11:37:17 -0400 Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m2GFbHSA012559; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:37:17 -0400 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GFbHqA020615; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:37:17 GMT Received: from xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.21]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:37:17 -0400 Received: from [130.129.81.185] ([10.82.209.43]) by xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:37:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Message-Id: <7CFFE595-DE28-45A3-97BD-7D740BD071EF@cisco.com> From: Fred Baker Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:37:16 -0400 To: Lars Eggert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2008 15:37:17.0178 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D6A5DA0:01C8877B] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1155; t=1205681837; x=1206545837; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fred@cisco.com; z=From:=20Fred=20Baker=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Tools-discuss]=20Proposal=20for=20a=20 simpler=20remind-on-draft-expiration=20tool |Sender:=20 |To:=20Lars=20Eggert=20; bh=oL+9KRCzEj00tOrPVrE0zQCIPANTTdl9p8VQONC7lAs=; b=wm8uv9LFW0vfn5S0GZtPZUB+izhkJcUPWaol0JLiV23NnfXVlTcIys2j59 uie842rjyBU21rG3wrOcip6bPdUPlf2tkXMDTfWHSgFG0sHM09MzJ0VsFqmb Yhts1y6bEp; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=fred@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; ); Cc: ext Paul Hoffman , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Proposal for a simpler remind-on-draft-expiration tool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org gee. emailing the document shepherd seems like it might be worthwhile, if not the authors. On Mar 16, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: > On 2008-3-15, at 18:04, ext Paul Hoffman wrote: >> Greetings again. On thinking a bit more about the desire to know when >> my drafts expire, I realized that y'all could make a simple tool that >> lets people sign up for such notifications *by email address*. Each >> day when drafts expire, you can compare the email addresses of the >> authors with that of the list of subscribers and then send out >> notices based on a match. This avoids sending out messages to >> everyone, or of making people subscribe to their drafts one-by-one. > > FWIW, the tracker already emails the AD when drafts in state "AD is > watching" expire. But it only emails the AD, and I don't know how much > surgery would be required to have it always email/CC draft- > foo@tools.ietf.org > , even when draft-foo isn't in "AD is watching". > > Lars > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 16 08:45:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD3D3A6D7D; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:45:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.046, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id idpFOHnI7vLO; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143853A6B1C; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:45:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EAC3A6B1C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:45:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HxVipPuo38nU for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (cl-240.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4830:1200:ef::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A983A6C9D for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.162] (dsl-63-249-108-169.cruzio.com [63.249.108.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2GFgp48036054 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:42:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:42:46 -0700 To: Lars Eggert From: Paul Hoffman Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Proposal for a simpler remind-on-draft-expiration tool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org At 11:15 AM -0400 3/16/08, Lars Eggert wrote: >On 2008-3-15, at 18:04, ext Paul Hoffman wrote: >>Greetings again. On thinking a bit more about the desire to know when >>my drafts expire, I realized that y'all could make a simple tool that >>lets people sign up for such notifications *by email address*. Each >>day when drafts expire, you can compare the email addresses of the >>authors with that of the list of subscribers and then send out >>notices based on a match. This avoids sending out messages to >>everyone, or of making people subscribe to their drafts one-by-one. > >FWIW, the tracker already emails the AD when drafts in state "AD is >watching" expire. But it only emails the AD, and I don't know how >much surgery would be required to have it always email/CC >draft-foo@tools.ietf.org, even when draft-foo isn't in "AD is >watching". Right, this seems to be like a different tool that has similar roots as the one you talk about. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 03:44:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E0C28C2B6; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:44:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.018 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.018 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.581, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 289VB2tG6qO6; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F300828C32B; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:44:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC0728C2B8 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:44:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sbXsLmSnNGw1 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-mx03.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.122.230]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5809B3A687C for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh107.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.143]) by mgw-mx03.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m2HAfUq6013036; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:42:03 +0200 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:41:53 +0200 Received: from vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.160.244.59]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:41:52 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:41:52 +0200 Message-ID: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB721C49F4@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Internet-draft data in XML (was: Proposal for a simplerremind-on-draft-expiration tool) Thread-Index: AciHN12wxL57y0WmSYyf5tKweM5VZwA44rZw References: <47DC8C3E.5070700@att.com> From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2008 10:41:52.0993 (UTC) FILETIME=[83641D10:01C8881B] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: [Tools-discuss] Internet-draft data in XML (was: Proposal for a simplerremind-on-draft-expiration tool) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Carsten Bormann wrote: > In order to hack tools like these, it would be nice if there was an > exposed XML interface to the internet_drafts table (preferably in a > form compatible with active-resource, but any XML would do). During the Saturday code sprint, I worked on an XML version of all_id.txt/1id-index.txt; so something along these lines may be coming. I hope to post something more about this in a couple of weeks... Best regards, Pasi _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 07:42:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B2D28C3B2; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:42:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.707 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.707 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.270, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O72Eao8WYE7K; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9C128C3F2; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:42:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DC028C371 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:42:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KH0GSfMOPsgV for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97EF28C264 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.3.232] (vicuna-alt.estacado.net [75.53.54.121]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2HEde6V096166 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:39:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Message-Id: From: Robert Sparks Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:39:41 -0400 To: Paul Hoffman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 75.53.54.121 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/6273/Sun Mar 16 22:03:58 2008 on shaman.nostrum.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Lars Eggert Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Proposal for a simpler remind-on-draft-expiration tool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I've done a lot towards this at the last two code sprints, both allowing interactive searches for when things expire and building something that will send email to appropriate parties when something's about to expire. Hopefully it will be ready to deploy soon. RjS On Mar 16, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > At 11:15 AM -0400 3/16/08, Lars Eggert wrote: >> On 2008-3-15, at 18:04, ext Paul Hoffman wrote: >>> Greetings again. On thinking a bit more about the desire to know >>> when >>> my drafts expire, I realized that y'all could make a simple tool >>> that >>> lets people sign up for such notifications *by email address*. Each >>> day when drafts expire, you can compare the email addresses of the >>> authors with that of the list of subscribers and then send out >>> notices based on a match. This avoids sending out messages to >>> everyone, or of making people subscribe to their drafts one-by-one. >> >> FWIW, the tracker already emails the AD when drafts in state "AD is >> watching" expire. But it only emails the AD, and I don't know how >> much surgery would be required to have it always email/CC >> draft-foo@tools.ietf.org, even when draft-foo isn't in "AD is >> watching". > > Right, this seems to be like a different tool that has similar roots > as the one you talk about. > > --Paul Hoffman, Director > --VPN Consortium > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 08:11:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310AB3A6BE0; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:11:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.168, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K8Xeh7AU5unN; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF393A6CBD; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:11:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06283A6C64 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:11:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cjZSq4MLXCa2 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us (drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us [168.143.123.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8952F3A6ABE for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m2HF8uqB001034; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:08:56 -0700 From: Marshall Rose To: "" In-Reply-To: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB721C49F4@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> References: <47DC8C3E.5070700@att.com> <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB721C49F4@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> Message-Id: <167127F0-6E1F-4150-8B19-258CCA8F1FE4@dbc.mtview.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:08:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: cabo@tzi.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Internet-draft data in XML (was: Proposal for a simplerremind-on-draft-expiration tool) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org >> In order to hack tools like these, it would be nice if there was an >> exposed XML interface to the internet_drafts table (preferably in a >> form compatible with active-resource, but any XML would do). > > During the Saturday code sprint, I worked on an XML version of > all_id.txt/1id-index.txt; so something along these lines may be > coming. I hope to post something more about this in a couple > of weeks... http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/bibxml3/ more details at http://xml.resource.org/ /mtr _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 08:29:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B54028C462; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.608 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.608 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.171, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y6oHpzCgnBRr; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCBA28C410; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:29:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204AA3A6C20 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:29:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5XaeJMV0ami5 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D9528C49C for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:27:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from [127.0.0.1] (maildrop [134.102.201.19]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2HFOV5V018672; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:24:32 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <977849B4-2F2C-435D-883D-A3B66EBCEF39@tzi.org> From: Carsten Bormann To: Marshall Rose In-Reply-To: <167127F0-6E1F-4150-8B19-258CCA8F1FE4@dbc.mtview.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:24:30 +0100 References: <47DC8C3E.5070700@att.com> <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB721C49F4@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> <167127F0-6E1F-4150-8B19-258CCA8F1FE4@dbc.mtview.ca.us> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Carsten Bormann , "" , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Internet-draft data in XML (was: Proposal for a simplerremind-on-draft-expiration tool) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On Mar 17 2008, at 16:08, Marshall Rose wrote: > http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/bibxml3/ While this is quite nice, it does not contain all of the interesting data from the id-tracker, such as the expiration date (which would be needed for reliable reminder service). Pasi: Would that have been in your XML version? Gruesse, Carsten _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 08:33:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4611F3A6C20; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:33:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.475, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ob-U0d+LweQ4; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76573A6ABE; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:33:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A953A6ABE for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:33:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id btkVJQxiesEl for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B2153A68B6 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Mar 2008 15:31:26 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.117]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2008 16:31:26 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/UopkphWfUokg7Pw4Q7kBZReGDPbb98bZp1wGOWG WqWw3ECB98q1es Message-ID: <47DE8EC0.8040801@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:31:12 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann References: <47DC8C3E.5070700@att.com> <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB721C49F4@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> <167127F0-6E1F-4150-8B19-258CCA8F1FE4@dbc.mtview.ca.us> <977849B4-2F2C-435D-883D-A3B66EBCEF39@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <977849B4-2F2C-435D-883D-A3B66EBCEF39@tzi.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: "" , tools-discuss@ietf.org, Marshall Rose Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Internet-draft data in XML X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Mar 17 2008, at 16:08, Marshall Rose wrote: > >> http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/bibxml3/ > > While this is quite nice, it does not contain all of the interesting > data from the id-tracker, such as the expiration date (which would be > needed for reliable reminder service). > > Pasi: Would that have been in your XML version? > > Gruesse, Carsten Agreed. It's nice to have reverse-engineered XML when there's only plain text information. It would be much better if the information is published in XML in the first place, though. We got an XML version of the RFC Editor queue a few years ago; why can't we have it for the data tracker as well? BR, Julian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 08:39:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D0F3A6E29; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:39:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.64 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.64 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.202, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9k95tabszCoT; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB78D3A6C20; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:39:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1403A3A6AA4 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:39:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c4MjkJ7jIie1 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us (drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us [168.143.123.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300413A6C20 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m2HFai7G001942; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:36:44 -0700 From: Marshall Rose To: Julian Reschke In-Reply-To: <47DE8EC0.8040801@gmx.de> References: <47DC8C3E.5070700@att.com> <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB721C49F4@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> <167127F0-6E1F-4150-8B19-258CCA8F1FE4@dbc.mtview.ca.us> <977849B4-2F2C-435D-883D-A3B66EBCEF39@tzi.org> <47DE8EC0.8040801@gmx.de> Message-Id: <66AD74F4-85E7-45D5-BBDA-5FE9B81C2161@dbc.mtview.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:36:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Carsten Bormann , "" , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Internet-draft data in XML X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org > We got an XML version of the RFC Editor queue a few years ago; why > can't > we have it for the data tracker as well? although it would be nicer if the data tracker stuff was a superset of 2629 to make it easier to use... /mtr _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 09:46:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCD528C0E8; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:46:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.540, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yxKyln27zwiL; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113ED3A6B52; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:46:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C163A68B7 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:46:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Ps0X6w7Jv2Y for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yxa.extundo.com (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88113A6B52 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m2HGhdNe025538 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:43:40 +0100 From: Simon Josefsson To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> <87d4q2cjtm.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <47D86421.2060505@levkowetz.com> OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:080317:henrik@levkowetz.com::BplAdCjL5kdM8z2M:PwOu X-Hashcash: 1:22:080317:tools-discuss@ietf.org::6ljXlctZ29pq5PPN:SV9c X-Hashcash: 1:22:080317:falk@bbn.com::qayadQRShL4tjIzK:03+Gh Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:43:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <47D86421.2060505@levkowetz.com> (Henrik Levkowetz's message of "Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:15:45 -0400") Message-ID: <87y78h1etg.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Aaron Falk Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] jabber links X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz writes: > Hi Simon, > > On 2008-03-10 18:09 Simon Josefsson said the following: >> Aaron Falk writes: >> >>> I love the highly integrated agenda you have at >>> http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/71/ . >> >> I noticed this one now, nice work! Would it be possible to add links to >> the jabber logs too? I tend to spend some time locating the latest >> jabber log archives for WGs every now and then. > > Added. Let me know if the revised version looks and works OK. Hi Henrik. I can't seem to find the links... I would expect them to be besides the jabber and audio links? Or do the link disappear once the meeting is over? Thanks, /Simon _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 11:44:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8832D3A6E2B; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:44:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.591 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.591 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.154, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0IHJ-TXMqlXn; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8523A6DF2; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:44:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF913A6E02 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:44:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aZ6d7LGjXvu7 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48693A6D6F for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43925 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JbKHz-0005Yd-TD; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:42:28 +0100 Message-ID: <47DEBB93.7060609@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:42:27 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Josefsson References: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> <87d4q2cjtm.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <47D86421.2060505@levkowetz.com> <87y78h1etg.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <87y78h1etg.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: simon@josefsson.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, falk@bbn.com, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Aaron Falk Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] jabber links X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Simon, On 2008-03-17 17:43 Simon Josefsson said the following: ... > > Hi Henrik. I can't seem to find the links... I would expect them to be > besides the jabber and audio links? Or do the link disappear once the > meeting is over? When I look at http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/71/ I see a "Jabber log" image between the audio link and the jabber room link (regular jabber icon). I assume the "jabber log" icon doesn't differ enough from the regular jabber icon, and you just didn't notice it? I probably have to design an alternative jabber log icon... Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 15:30:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDDC3A6E3D; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:30:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.797 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.797 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.361, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8SO+XpzvOAki; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AF33A6816; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:30:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C966B3A6781 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:30:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JOJj27LCb66S for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yxa.extundo.com (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B173A6816 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m2HMS4V6010977 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:28:05 +0100 From: Simon Josefsson To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> <87d4q2cjtm.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <47D86421.2060505@levkowetz.com> <87y78h1etg.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <47DEBB93.7060609@levkowetz.com> OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:080317:falk@bbn.com::oN17hS3KyR5vJOua:UloE X-Hashcash: 1:22:080317:tools-discuss@ietf.org::Cb0eY6w2nQ1Oc1mu:FEFS X-Hashcash: 1:22:080317:henrik@levkowetz.com::2BRWvAIKbDeGF647:06cJK Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:28:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <47DEBB93.7060609@levkowetz.com> (Henrik Levkowetz's message of "Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:42:27 +0100") Message-ID: <87skyp0yvf.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Aaron Falk Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] jabber links X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz writes: > Hi Simon, > > On 2008-03-17 17:43 Simon Josefsson said the following: > ... >> >> Hi Henrik. I can't seem to find the links... I would expect them to be >> besides the jabber and audio links? Or do the link disappear once the >> meeting is over? > > When I look at http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/71/ I see a "Jabber log" image > between the audio link and the jabber room link (regular jabber icon). > I assume the "jabber log" icon doesn't differ enough from the regular > jabber icon, and you just didn't notice it? I probably have to design an > alternative jabber log icon... I may be totally missing something, but I don't see it. I see the audio link icon and then the jabber room link. At first I suspected caching, but reloading the page didn't help. I don't see it in the HTML either if I use a command line tool like curl: jas@mocca:~$ curl http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/71/|grep krb-wg % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 1140 0 1140 0 0 14712 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 14712
Krb-wg
Salon I SEC krb-wg docs docs audio jabber Kerberos< /a> 100 145k 0 145k 0 0 259k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 297k jas@mocca:~$ Hm. I see that tools.ietf.org have two IP addresses here: jas@mocca:~$ host tools.ietf.org tools.ietf.org has address 192.36.157.99 tools.ietf.org has address 194.146.105.14 tools.ietf.org has IPv6 address 2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb tools.ietf.org mail is handled by 20 shiraz.tools.ietf.org. tools.ietf.org mail is handled by 10 merlot.tools.ietf.org. jas@mocca:~$ My browser uses the first IP. If I try the second one, I do get the jabber archive link: jas@mocca:~$ curl http://194.146.105.14/agenda/71/|grep krb-wg % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 1159 0 1159 0 0 28365 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 28365
Krb-wg
100 19966 0 19966 0 0 189k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 291kSalon I SEC krb-wg docs docs audio jabber jabber Kerberos 100 163k 0 163k 0 0 760k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 930k jas@mocca:~$ Maybe the IP address I got is wrong? Or maybe more likely is that one of the hosts doesn't use the most recent scripts. Thanks, /Simon _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 16:04:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47A63A6E81; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:04:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.081, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rXh+RFR6CeCh; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A180228C4AA; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:04:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B108B3A6B60 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G3odVwp+Ojwg for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8F828C51C for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38828 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JbOJm-00014d-4z; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:00:34 +0100 Message-ID: <47DEF811.60107@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:00:33 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Josefsson References: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> <87d4q2cjtm.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <47D86421.2060505@levkowetz.com> <87y78h1etg.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <47DEBB93.7060609@levkowetz.com> <87skyp0yvf.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <87skyp0yvf.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: simon@josefsson.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, falk@bbn.com, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Aaron Falk Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] jabber links X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Simon, Henrik On 2008-03-17 23:28 Simon Josefsson said the following: ... > Maybe the IP address I got is wrong? Or maybe more likely is that one > of the hosts doesn't use the most recent scripts. Right. I've somehow managed to get one of the tools servers out of sync on this. Sorry. The two others showed the log link, but not the one you were looking at, as you discovered. Fixed now. Excuse the wasted time. (I refer to 3 tools servers, but you saw only two A records for tools.ietf.org because the third server is normally used for development and testing and not for production service due to its narrower pipe.) Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 16:31:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781CE28C436; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:31:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.775 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.775 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.338, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LlgtIBrD76CJ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E6828C3B8; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:30:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A62428C267 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:30:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hufov8LLAXJk for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yxa.extundo.com (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138E23A6803 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m2HNSVA1018021 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:28:31 +0100 From: Simon Josefsson To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <60A4E51A-0F4A-4B12-8B7C-3E2B092315D8@bbn.com> <87d4q2cjtm.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <47D86421.2060505@levkowetz.com> <87y78h1etg.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <47DEBB93.7060609@levkowetz.com> <87skyp0yvf.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <47DEF811.60107@levkowetz.com> OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:080317:henrik@levkowetz.com::XAOwb333XHpuIEOy:4cPU X-Hashcash: 1:22:080317:falk@bbn.com::akjdo25ezcnigB0U:DVoc X-Hashcash: 1:22:080317:tools-discuss@ietf.org::QjlMH/QmVZwzTeuI:IGYD Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:28:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: <47DEF811.60107@levkowetz.com> (Henrik Levkowetz's message of "Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:00:33 +0100") Message-ID: <87hcf5szfk.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Aaron Falk Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] jabber links X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz writes: > Hi Simon, > > Henrik > > On 2008-03-17 23:28 Simon Josefsson said the following: > ... >> Maybe the IP address I got is wrong? Or maybe more likely is that one >> of the hosts doesn't use the most recent scripts. > > Right. I've somehow managed to get one of the tools servers out of > sync on this. Sorry. The two others showed the log link, but not > the one you were looking at, as you discovered. Fixed now. Excuse > the wasted time. I can see the icons properly now. Thanks for tracking this problem. FWIW, I think the icon works fine. /Simon _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 20 05:17:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654913A6C43; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:17:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.514 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.514 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PqOLNKJVOVli; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6733A694F; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:17:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D523A6973 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:17:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qwA6fIxOHE2T for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7D03A6774 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF37219870F; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:15:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEF819870E; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:15:28 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47E2555F.1090702@piuha.net> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:15:27 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fenner , Marshall Rose References: <47D842B3.5010903@piuha.net> <54e226890803140457o1022e5e8g3709e908960ccb88@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54e226890803140457o1022e5e8g3709e908960ccb88@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] weird xml2rfc error X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Marshall, Bill, Yes, it has been fixed -- I just installed 1.33 and it no longer has this problem. Thanks. Jari Bill Fenner kirjoitti: > On 3/12/08, Jari Arkko wrote: > >> I'm trying to compile some age old XML source on xml2rfc. I get this: >> >> can't read "validity": no such variable on line XXX >> > > This was a bug in 1.32, when it went to go output some of the > boilerplate but you weren't using 3978 ipr. I think it's fixed in > 1.33, can you check? > > Thanks, > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 20 08:11:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D93B28C3CD; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:11:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.349 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.349 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gCvxFZejdIeu; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E069D28C344; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:11:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70D628C344 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:11:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DZYS0t2xwY7d for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kilo.rtfm.com (unknown [74.95.2.169]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AC428C31D for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kilo.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kilo.rtfm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE16A1C046B for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:09:02 -0700 From: Eric Rescorla To: tools-discuss@ietf.org User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.1 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Message-Id: <20080320150902.BE16A1C046B@kilo.rtfm.com> Subject: [Tools-discuss] New tool: bibxml2rfc X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I've just put up a prototype version of a new tool: bibxml2rfc, which is a reference tool for xml2rfc in the style of bibtex. URL: https://svn.resiprocate.org/rep/ietf-drafts/ekr/bibxml2rfc Here's the description from the internal documentation. bibxml2rfc is a bibliography helper program for xml2rfc files. One of the motivations for bibxml2rfc is that it's hard to work with xml2rfc in offline settings. Either you need to download the entire database or manually enter each database entry. In either case, you need to significantly edit your XML file to add a new reference. bibxml2rfc is intended to mitigate these issues. When handed an XML file, bibxml2rfc tries to identify the references and construct an appropriate bibliography. The general procedure is as follows: - Find all elements in the XML file () - Extract the "target" attributes. - Look in the local bibliography cache (references/) for files named .xml. - If no cached entry is found or the the target appears to be an I-D (starts with "I-D."), then try to fetch an entry out of the appropriate repository on xml.resource.org. - Build two files: + -normative containing reference entries for the normative references + -informative containing reference entries for the informative references bibxml2rfc determines whether a reference is normative or informative by looking at the 'norm' attribute in the element. If it is 'true', then the reference is normative. Note that a single instance of 'norm="true"' is sufficient to mark a reference normative, so if multiple elements are present, only one need be so marked. There's also a simple tool (bibxml2rfc-merge) to produce merged xml2rfc files for submission. Arguably, this should be part of xml2rfc proper, but I was in a bit of a hurry and this was the easiest thing for me to write. Comments, bugs, etc. welcome. -Ekr _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 20 08:51:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B2128C3DE; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:51:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.42 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.42 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.983, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eoFzNOpvYlLW; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2778328C3BF; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:51:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B2028C3B9 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:51:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uH+vQ4UT9bFX for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D1628C5E5 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JcN0w-0003zQ-Fv for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:49:10 +0000 Received: from hmbg-d9b88e36.pool.mediaways.net ([217.184.142.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:49:10 +0000 Received: from nobody by hmbg-d9b88e36.pool.mediaways.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:49:10 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:51:33 +0100 Organization: Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <20080320150902.BE16A1C046B@kilo.rtfm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: hmbg-d9b88e36.pool.mediaways.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New tool: bibxml2rfc X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Eric Rescorla wrote: > Comments, bugs, etc. welcome. Some days ago I had bugs in an xml2rfc source, and for unclear reasons Bill's validator refused to work. Therefore I used the W3C validator to figure out what was wrong, and fixed it. For these purposes adding norm= to the DTD could make sense. Or maybe a solution with processing instructions is better, Julian's XSLT uses this approach. I'm not sure why you need norm= at all, or if only validators would hate it. Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 20 08:55:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53183A6DFF; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.352 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.352 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.085, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bo9TkRMIyRjK; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAFF3A6D5A; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4E83A6D5A for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0-JSiUc7WW+t for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from romeo.rtfm.com (unknown [74.95.2.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59D63A6CC7 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from romeo.rtfm.com (localhost.rtfm.com [127.0.0.1]) by romeo.rtfm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748945081A; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:23 -0700 From: Eric Rescorla To: Frank Ellermann In-Reply-To: References: <20080320150902.BE16A1C046B@kilo.rtfm.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/21.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Message-Id: <20080320155523.748945081A@romeo.rtfm.com> Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New tool: bibxml2rfc X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org At Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:51:33 +0100, Frank Ellermann wrote: > > Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > Comments, bugs, etc. welcome. > > Some days ago I had bugs in an xml2rfc source, and for unclear > reasons Bill's validator refused to work. Therefore I used > the W3C validator to figure out what was wrong, and fixed it. > > For these purposes adding norm= to the DTD could make sense. > Or maybe a solution with processing instructions is better, > Julian's XSLT uses this approach. I'm not sure why you need > norm= at all, or if only validators would hate it. > > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 20 08:56:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73363A6D64; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:56:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.362 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.362 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wOm4qdh3b1sV; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E49B3A6D74; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:56:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8AF3A6D74 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:56:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 480PJOjuXsyA for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from romeo.rtfm.com (unknown [74.95.2.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A51B3A6A1B for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from romeo.rtfm.com (localhost.rtfm.com [127.0.0.1]) by romeo.rtfm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6733550850; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:31 -0700 From: Eric Rescorla To: Frank Ellermann In-Reply-To: References: <20080320150902.BE16A1C046B@kilo.rtfm.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/21.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Message-Id: <20080320155531.6733550850@romeo.rtfm.com> Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New tool: bibxml2rfc X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Frank Ellermann wrote: > > Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > Comments, bugs, etc. welcome. > > Some days ago I had bugs in an xml2rfc source, and for unclear > reasons Bill's validator refused to work. Therefore I used > the W3C validator to figure out what was wrong, and fixed it. > > For these purposes adding norm= to the DTD could make sense. > Or maybe a solution with processing instructions is better, > Julian's XSLT uses this approach. I'm not sure why you need > norm= at all, or if only validators would hate it. I'm pretty flexible on this point. We obviously need some way to indicate that a ref is normative but I don't much care how. I do believe that it needs to be associated with the reference in the text and not with the bib entry, since the bib is shared (by design) and some bib entries are normative with respect to one i-d and informative with respect to another. -Ekr _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 20 10:57:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867B228C699; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:57:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.081, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ndAFxPgl0b9e; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFB228C28F; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203B528C28F for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:57:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lHOjF8MwlT6F for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F0828C24B for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47332 helo=chardonnay.lan) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JcOyK-00009I-8q; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:54:36 +0100 Message-ID: <47E2A4DB.9040404@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:54:35 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Rescorla References: <20080320150902.BE16A1C046B@kilo.rtfm.com> In-Reply-To: <20080320150902.BE16A1C046B@kilo.rtfm.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: ekr@networkresonance.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New tool: bibxml2rfc X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-03-20 16:09 Eric Rescorla said the following: > I've just put up a prototype version of a new tool: bibxml2rfc, > which is a reference tool for xml2rfc in the style of bibtex. > > URL: https://svn.resiprocate.org/rep/ietf-drafts/ekr/bibxml2rfc Hey! This is written in Python! I can read this comfortably! :-) > Here's the description from the internal documentation. ... > When handed an XML file, bibxml2rfc tries to identify the > references and construct an appropriate bibliography. The > general procedure is as follows: How to use this wasn't entirely clear to me until I read the bibxml2rfc-merge code. So to use this, you add 2 external entity definitions to your xml2rfc source file, one for the normative and one for the informative reference files, and use those in their appropriate reference section. This replaces the individual entity definitions for external bibxml* files. Then you run bibxml2rfc on the source file, which will have the effect of downloading needed references if not already in the cache, and building the two files holding references. If you're off-line, references not in the local cache will be present in the generated files with dummy content, so you can run xml2rfc on the source file without being held up. If you're on-line, new files will be added to the cache. Files already in the cache won't be checked for updates (should that optionally be done?). Did I get that right? > - Find all elements in the XML file () > - Extract the "target" attributes. > - Look in the local bibliography cache (references/) for files > named .xml. > - If no cached entry is found or the the target appears to be > an I-D (starts with "I-D."), then try to fetch an entry out > of the appropriate repository on xml.resource.org. > - Build two files: > + -normative containing reference entries for the > normative references > + -informative containing reference entries for the > informative references > > bibxml2rfc determines whether a reference is normative or > informative by looking at the 'norm' attribute in the > element. If it is 'true', then the reference is normative. > Note that a single instance of 'norm="true"' is sufficient > to mark a reference normative, so if multiple elements > are present, only one need be so marked. > > There's also a simple tool (bibxml2rfc-merge) to produce merged > xml2rfc files for submission. > > Arguably, this should be part of xml2rfc proper, but I was in > a bit of a hurry and this was the easiest thing for me to write. > Comments, bugs, etc. welcome. Neat! Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 20 11:03:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEEF28C701; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:03:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.365 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.365 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KLLVtLDDBRmF; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D083A6A4B; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:03:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B5428C644 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:03:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ejliiWz3tNug for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from romeo.rtfm.com (unknown [74.95.2.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D291A3A69A5 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from romeo.rtfm.com (localhost.rtfm.com [127.0.0.1]) by romeo.rtfm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AE95081A; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:02:39 -0700 From: Eric Rescorla To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <47E2A4DB.9040404@levkowetz.com> References: <20080320150902.BE16A1C046B@kilo.rtfm.com> <47E2A4DB.9040404@levkowetz.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/21.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Message-Id: <20080320180239.87AE95081A@romeo.rtfm.com> Cc: Eric Rescorla , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New tool: bibxml2rfc X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org At Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:54:35 +0100, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > > > On 2008-03-20 16:09 Eric Rescorla said the following: > > I've just put up a prototype version of a new tool: bibxml2rfc, > > which is a reference tool for xml2rfc in the style of bibtex. > > > > URL: https://svn.resiprocate.org/rep/ietf-drafts/ekr/bibxml2rfc > > Hey! This is written in Python! I can read this comfortably! :-) > > > Here's the description from the internal documentation. > > ... > > > When handed an XML file, bibxml2rfc tries to identify the > > references and construct an appropriate bibliography. The > > general procedure is as follows: > > How to use this wasn't entirely clear to me until I read the > bibxml2rfc-merge code. So to use this, you add 2 external entity > definitions to your xml2rfc source file, one for the normative and > one for the informative reference files, and use those in their > appropriate reference section. This replaces the individual entity > definitions for external bibxml* files. Exactly. > Then you run bibxml2rfc on the source file, which will have the > effect of downloading needed references if not already in the cache, > and building the two files holding references. Yes, though you can do these in either order. > If you're off-line, > references not in the local cache will be present in the generated > files with dummy content, so you can run xml2rfc on the source file > without being held up. Yes, with two caveats: 1. You need to pass -i 2. It only does this for I-Ds and RFCs. Other references it doesn't try. You are expected to preload the cache with non-ID non RFC references. > If you're on-line, new files will be added > to the cache. Yep. > Files already in the cache won't be checked for > updates (should that optionally be done?). Actually, I-Ds are checked for updates unless you pass in '-n'. RFCs aren't checked for updates on the theory that RFCs never change. -Ekr _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 20 12:20:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D293A68E9; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:20:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.653 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.653 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.216, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f6-+jGZOrvob; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A583A6AFF; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:20:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB1F3A6AFF for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:20:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dKgM7xiqauOF for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF493A68E9 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50093 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JcQGp-0000Aw-G3; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:17:47 +0100 Message-ID: <47E2B85B.8070107@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:17:47 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Rescorla References: <20080320150902.BE16A1C046B@kilo.rtfm.com> <47E2A4DB.9040404@levkowetz.com> <20080320180239.87AE95081A@romeo.rtfm.com> In-Reply-To: <20080320180239.87AE95081A@romeo.rtfm.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: ekr@networkresonance.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New tool: bibxml2rfc X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-03-20 19:02 Eric Rescorla said the following: > At Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:54:35 +0100, > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: ... >> If you're off-line, >> references not in the local cache will be present in the generated >> files with dummy content, so you can run xml2rfc on the source file >> without being held up. > > Yes, with two caveats: > > 1. You need to pass -i > 2. It only does this for I-Ds and RFCs. Other references it doesn't > try. > > You are expected to preload the cache with non-ID non RFC references. Aha. Right. >> If you're on-line, new files will be added >> to the cache. > > Yep. > > >> Files already in the cache won't be checked for >> updates (should that optionally be done?). > > Actually, I-Ds are checked for updates unless you pass in > '-n'. RFCs aren't checked for updates on the theory that > RFCs never change. Makes sense. Cool. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 21 09:22:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A1F3A6C17; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:22:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.227 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.227 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.790, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e-JbiytJ-JUH; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C083A6929; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:22:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8898B3A6A52 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:22:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6T6e-b-7rJeo for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47313A690B for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2008 09:20:07 -0700 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m2LGK76Y018445 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:20:07 -0700 Received: from dwingwxp01 ([10.32.240.197]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2LGK6Gx012582 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:20:06 GMT From: "Dan Wing" To: Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:20:06 -0700 Message-ID: <02b401c88b6f$6d2f8280$c5f0200a@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AciLb2zZ/gSOFCpvS/OEGZSgTfZP9A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=222; t=1206116407; x=1206980407; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=dwing@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Dan=20Wing=22=20 |Subject:=20IDST=3A=20cancelled=20messages |Sender:=20; bh=0XJl2Lc1T4z3MK1T2Pj9nRwed9TQfUB2fFrMvNxhxMM=; b=Kh8gfnuO4xPHot095vRIcd49i39LjesBgD0fSgcMA4UNYUSRPCHpPZ0vhF xmt+XEZOiCPQMrt9iT3eBX6TgnrMOifsEB5EUCBGXXmuLeLUzQ9N5+1UoeQp nZHpGwq66R; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=dwing@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); Subject: [Tools-discuss] IDST: cancelled messages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I am puzzled why cancelling an IDST post causes notification to be sent to all of the document authors, rather than just the author that submitted (and cancelled) the IDST post. Could someone educate me on this? -d _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 21 09:50:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEABA28C262; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.505 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.505 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yPRnomCX-9MH; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB77C28C1BD; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:49:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD8D28C1B5 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:49:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vzyVBjtVX1Ls for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3768728C36B for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50765 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JckOv-0003NV-Q6; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:47:30 +0100 Message-ID: <47E3E6A1.5020508@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:47:29 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Wing References: <02b401c88b6f$6d2f8280$c5f0200a@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <02b401c88b6f$6d2f8280$c5f0200a@cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: dwing@cisco.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IDST: cancelled messages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Dan, On 2008-03-21 17:20 Dan Wing said the following: > I am puzzled why cancelling an IDST post causes notification to be sent to all > of the document authors, rather than just the author that submitted (and > cancelled) the IDST post. Could someone educate me on this? I am equally puzzled. The spec (RFC 4228) certainly does not specify this. I think this 'just happened to be implemented that way' and once we have the Django rewrite of the tool up and running, I'd like this to be changed. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 22 09:32:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5024228C2EA; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:32:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.971 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.971 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.534, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QWcaLZTemOee; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AB128C0F7; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:32:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75E83A6B9B for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:32:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OOh6bXhurOxG for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303FA3A6986 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Mar 2008 09:30:02 -0700 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m2MGU24P005571; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:30:02 -0700 Received: from [192.168.4.177] (sjc-fluffy-vpn1.cisco.com [10.25.236.82]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2MGU2Xx020177; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:30:02 GMT Message-Id: From: Cullen Jennings To: Tools Discuss , Jari Arkko Impp: xmpp:cullenfluffyjennings@jabber.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:29:51 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=865; t=1206203402; x=1207067402; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; z=From:=20Cullen=20Jennings=20 |Subject:=20Request=20about=20the=20draft-xxx@tools.ietf.or g=20mail=20lists |Sender:=20; bh=kRRTunESHqPJMcZwJSCqrxy7lkl4Z1YocYNFzXAslh0=; b=P6twN0Zkg6EPsNX6O8e8Ht44N8h8PawXpCg4UrcikmmhX1IBns6I+qg4W1 IvFSEdX+8XTlqdx8Ss6MyXm9RoPbdFk0jKySfbxqE1RUnBWBVJnDGhtzV706 /dS/hzTEVL; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=fluffy@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); Subject: [Tools-discuss] Request about the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org mail lists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I've been having problems where an author of a draft. say foo@bar.com, is not reading emails sent to draft-xxx email address. The issues seems to be that they are filtering in a way that expects foo@bar.com to be in the To or CC header. They point out that they did not know that needed to set up filters for every draft they write and don't want to do that. I was wondering if we could do something like instead of setting the To line to draft-xxx, if we could set it to the list of authors and perhaps set the List-ID header to draft-xxx. I don't claim to have any idea of what email headers should be used in any given situation so I have no idea if this would make matters better or worse. But I think you see the problem I am getting at and perhaps someone knows if there is good way of resolving this. Thanks, Cullen _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 22 11:25:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F0828C18A; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:25:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.649 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.212, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yTTFVa7+cv0z; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5F33A68BA; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:25:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8623A6E5C for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:25:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BXC0zIzVW4aT for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928763A6E59 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53430 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jd8Jq-0002sF-Qd; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:19:52 +0100 Message-ID: <47E54DBF.6000509@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:19:43 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: fluffy@cisco.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, jari.arkko@piuha.net, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Jari Arkko , Tools Discuss Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Request about the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org mail lists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0476312155==" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0476312155== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1FACB22AFA7DEB0FEF35D79D" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1FACB22AFA7DEB0FEF35D79D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Cullen, On 2008-03-22 17:29 Cullen Jennings said the following: > I've been having problems where an author of a draft. say foo@bar.com, = =20 > is not reading emails sent to draft-xxx email address. The issues =20 > seems to be that they are filtering in a way that expects foo@bar.com = > to be in the To or CC header. They point out that they did not know =20 > that needed to set up filters for every draft they write and don't =20 > want to do that. Mmm. > I was wondering if we could do something like instead of setting the =20 > To line to draft-xxx, if we could set it to the list of authors and =20 > perhaps set the List-ID header to draft-xxx. I don't claim to have any = =20 > idea of what email headers should be used in any given situation so I = > have no idea if this would make matters better or worse. But I think =20 > you see the problem I am getting at and perhaps someone knows if there = =20 > is good way of resolving this. Yup, I see the problem. I'm not sure how to address it best, though. Currently the draft-xxx email addresses are simple aliases, which are handled easily and efficiently by exim. Something to solve this seems to require a more advanced and custom setup, filtering these emails through formail or something like that to replace the To: draft-xxxx address with the individual resolved addresses. I'll have a look at it, but don't know straight off how to convince exim to do that. Henrik --------------enig1FACB22AFA7DEB0FEF35D79D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFH5U3FeVhrtTJkXCMRAmTDAJ9J8U9IhTzipUPNAbjwjSr6m30QEwCgoRYu zl5jwy6scKzM9zhFcWqrSuo= =/G9A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1FACB22AFA7DEB0FEF35D79D-- --===============0476312155== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============0476312155==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 22 14:05:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC583A6E5A; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:05:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.964, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4m-nq4oB1T8u; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278563A6E52; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:05:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC463A6A0F for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:05:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7sztyiW9+82m for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E573A6E52 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56565 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JdAoj-0005hH-Ny; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:59:53 +0100 Message-ID: <47E57349.9000501@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:59:53 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings References: <47E54DBF.6000509@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <47E54DBF.6000509@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: fluffy@cisco.com, jari.arkko@piuha.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Jari Arkko , Tools Discuss Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Request about the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org mail lists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1136272667==" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1136272667== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig69A296BE5A0F199DF2C0E379" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig69A296BE5A0F199DF2C0E379 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-03-22 19:19 Henrik Levkowetz said the following: > Hi Cullen, =2E.. >> I was wondering if we could do something like instead of setting the = >> To line to draft-xxx, if we could set it to the list of authors and =20 >> perhaps set the List-ID header to draft-xxx. I don't claim to have any= =20 >> idea of what email headers should be used in any given situation so I = =20 >> have no idea if this would make matters better or worse. But I think = >> you see the problem I am getting at and perhaps someone knows if there= =20 >> is good way of resolving this. >=20 > Yup, I see the problem. I'm not sure how to address it best, though. >=20 > Currently the draft-xxx email addresses are simple aliases, which are > handled easily and efficiently by exim. Something to solve this seems > to require a more advanced and custom setup, filtering these emails > through formail or something like that to replace the To: draft-xxxx > address with the individual resolved addresses. I'll have a look at > it, but don't know straight off how to convince exim to do that. I've done a bit of testing with exim's rewrite mechanism, which should be able to change the To: address into something else. Unfortunately, the something else turns out to be limited to *one* address -- for multip= le addresses, the alias mechanism is what's recommended, also when googling for solutions to this. I'm sure that someone with better exim-foo than I would know how to fix this, but I (again ,:) don't know how to convince exim to do it. Henrik --------------enig69A296BE5A0F199DF2C0E379 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFH5XNJeVhrtTJkXCMRAlw6AJ9CF3V/I4ij2zgsxPIVmzkvBNcbYgCfajXA 8AnMfWdGwBM+i2ERrHIkQhg= =nc4C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig69A296BE5A0F199DF2C0E379-- --===============1136272667== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============1136272667==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 24 02:02:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0FE3A6CF1; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:02:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.797 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.797 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.360, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g01FusVZm6Yt; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0409528C1D7; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:02:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC603A6CF1 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:02:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dEL-Bg4HRMYy for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD0B28C1CA for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so1887780uge.46 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.243.13 with SMTP id q13mr4574733ugh.59.1206349225343; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.255.2? ( [88.114.157.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m1sm32912201uge.69.2008.03.24.02.00.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3DBB2E22-5095-45B8-A1DB-0BD3180B994A@nokia.com> From: Lars Eggert To: ext Cullen Jennings In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:00:22 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Jari Arkko , Tools Discuss Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Request about the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org mail lists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-3-22, at 18:29, ext Cullen Jennings wrote: > I've been having problems where an author of a draft. say foo@bar.com, > is not reading emails sent to draft-xxx email address. The issues > seems to be that they are filtering in a way that expects foo@bar.com > to be in the To or CC header. They point out that they did not know > that needed to set up filters for every draft they write and don't > want to do that. They'd just need to not filter when From contains "@tools.ietf.org". Lars _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 24 05:22:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968B73A6E8A; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:22:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.414 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.414 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.977, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HUWV6tA0WBff; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F1D3A6D20; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:22:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193B028C219 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:22:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gojcfihZd5jM for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F9F3A6ABC for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36993 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jdlc6-0003iZ-0o; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:17:18 +0100 Message-ID: <47E79BC5.3050309@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:17:09 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eggert References: <3DBB2E22-5095-45B8-A1DB-0BD3180B994A@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <3DBB2E22-5095-45B8-A1DB-0BD3180B994A@nokia.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: lars.eggert@nokia.com, fluffy@cisco.com, jari.arkko@piuha.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: ext Cullen Jennings , Jari Arkko , Tools Discuss Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Request about the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org mail lists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0608560469==" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0608560469== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA8492EBC3435375AB9809A04" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA8492EBC3435375AB9809A04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-03-24 10:00 Lars Eggert said the following: > On 2008-3-22, at 18:29, ext Cullen Jennings wrote: >> I've been having problems where an author of a draft. say foo@bar.com,= >> is not reading emails sent to draft-xxx email address. The issues >> seems to be that they are filtering in a way that expects foo@bar.com >> to be in the To or CC header. They point out that they did not know >> that needed to set up filters for every draft they write and don't >> want to do that. >=20 > They'd just need to not filter when From contains "@tools.ietf.org". *slaps forehead* Of course. That makes me feel easier about not being able to find a way to replace the To: with the final recipients. Henrik --------------enigA8492EBC3435375AB9809A04 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFH55vNeVhrtTJkXCMRAnW3AKC/DfAlIEE33L8BAAu+8IfXGdZQOgCeMr01 8wNBa5r2fymxELiqx1dnoRs= =7C9X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA8492EBC3435375AB9809A04-- --===============0608560469== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============0608560469==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 24 09:27:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AD428C2FF; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:27:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.994 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.994 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.557, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aCphACerrgOZ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74693A6A28; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:27:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D263A6A28 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:27:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F1+8D3Ht2Bbn for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AC23A6828 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2008 09:24:45 -0700 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m2OGOiti023811; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:24:44 -0700 Received: from [192.168.4.177] (sjc-fluffy-vpn1.cisco.com [10.25.236.82]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2OGOiKl022399; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:24:44 GMT From: Cullen Jennings To: "Lars Eggert" In-Reply-To: <3DBB2E22-5095-45B8-A1DB-0BD3180B994A@nokia.com> Impp: xmpp:cullenfluffyjennings@jabber.org References: <3DBB2E22-5095-45B8-A1DB-0BD3180B994A@nokia.com> Message-Id: <5D8C4ED5-94B8-4B73-9E29-512FD02DBF0F@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:24:32 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1282; t=1206375884; x=1207239884; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim1004; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; z=From:=20Cullen=20Jennings=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Tools-discuss]=20Request=20about=20the =20draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org=20maillists |Sender:=20; bh=bzMOkicMQ/G4oMOmy4ixhzZtMDkY/Fimo2VCgtOC/IU=; b=iPaVPT5AZP1XLv5R6My4Q1RQE/aHiEik4SUZZ3U49SDgrtj+LbNiz7O4Sn 5dj2bwZ+8dj62NWefv2Lk/hJuqU5FUn1/K+y4dHjEC0PWscclxd9Ilui/8d0 l8flTKkHpubMGZvD3pUtNMvn772vudDBoTGnWY/Gy++ZiXeD3S9YA=; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=fluffy@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); Cc: Jari Arkko , Tools Discuss Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Request about the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org maillists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org hmm - I suspect the problem is that they are filtering stuff they want to read to a folder "to Read" instead of filtering stuff they don't want to read out of their default folder. My initial response was more or less "if you are writing too many drafts to set up a filter per draft, well you are probably writing too many drafts :-)". I think there is some truth in this so I don't consider this a big deal but seems like if we can eventually figure out a good solutions, would be nice to do. Cullen On Mar 24, 2008, at 2:00 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: > On 2008-3-22, at 18:29, ext Cullen Jennings wrote: > > I've been having problems where an author of a draft. say foo@bar.com > , > > is not reading emails sent to draft-xxx email address. The issues > > seems to be that they are filtering in a way that expects > foo@bar.com > > to be in the To or CC header. They point out that they did not know > > that needed to set up filters for every draft they write and don't > > want to do that. > > They'd just need to not filter when From contains "@tools.ietf.org". > > Lars > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 24 09:35:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D12B3A6E7C; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:35:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.494 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.494 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rxvqsmTrKc3H; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BB53A6CA6; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316893A6C22 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:35:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BU1G5tkTktfG for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0704C3A6C1E for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B08B198716; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:32:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A1519865F; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:32:48 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47E7D7B0.2080703@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:32:48 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings References: <3DBB2E22-5095-45B8-A1DB-0BD3180B994A@nokia.com> <5D8C4ED5-94B8-4B73-9E29-512FD02DBF0F@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <5D8C4ED5-94B8-4B73-9E29-512FD02DBF0F@cisco.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Tools Discuss , Lars Eggert Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Request about the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org maillists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org FWIW, I have found out that as an IETF participant in various roles I have to enter things like foo-chair@tools.ietf.org, bar-ads@tools.ietf.org, draft-zz@tools.ietf.org etc into my filters. That being said, the draft-zz aliases affect the largest number of people, so if it was easy to make them work nicely for everyone, even those not having entered them into their filters... Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 24 12:56:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7C13A6EB8; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:56:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.218 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.218 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.781, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eaz8qk+T3Pk8; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB833A6E90; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:56:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0063A6D7D for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:56:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2WJzeW06faKd for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299EE3A68F7 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2008 12:54:25 -0700 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m2OJsP31018897; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:54:25 -0700 Received: from dwingwxp01 ([10.32.240.197]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2OJsO8t015795; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:54:25 GMT From: "Dan Wing" To: "'Jari Arkko'" , "'Cullen Jennings'" References: <3DBB2E22-5095-45B8-A1DB-0BD3180B994A@nokia.com><5D8C4ED5-94B8-4B73-9E29-512FD02DBF0F@cisco.com> <47E7D7B0.2080703@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:54:24 -0700 Message-ID: <07c201c88de8$dcc44b00$c5f0200a@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AciNzNn6ihJ6TSaaSMuDJK7NITngywAG6j6Q In-Reply-To: <47E7D7B0.2080703@piuha.net> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=830; t=1206388465; x=1207252465; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=dwing@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Dan=20Wing=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[Tools-discuss]=20Request=20about=20the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org=09maillists |Sender:=20; bh=8lNd3ZcQN3ptFs1lA7Tp5vSM0DZn4/sHBC/AVnSuyfk=; b=Tk5gXqc9BlE9lh3o+waIXv9Hr9GVwvSfrMjVySFvPKpHaCL1mnmKc5dyGP HOH6YpvVPqOg8QpoiPGSHE4Y3en+H/0VlE40gargZlJgGA6eP6WGnoPYmaen dxWy88951n; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=dwing@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); Cc: 'Lars Eggert' , 'Tools Discuss' Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Request about thedraft-xxx@tools.ietf.org maillists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org > FWIW, I have found out that as an IETF participant in various roles I > have to enter things like foo-chair@tools.ietf.org, > bar-ads@tools.ietf.org, draft-zz@tools.ietf.org etc into my filters. There is an advantage to that, of course -- when you receieve an email you have context about why you received it: because you are a WG chair, because you are an AD, or because you are a document author. I, at least, find that valuable. -d > That being said, the draft-zz aliases affect the largest number of > people, so if it was easy to make them work nicely for everyone, even > those not having entered them into their filters... > > Jari > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 24 14:10:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5327828C22A; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:10:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.540, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BlV-FKQ6d8v9; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7942E3A6E88; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:10:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728923A6DE8 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:10:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9cHK+cyosTeY for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BD43A6EBE for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so1967767wra.13 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tp7/5FOcM3zkAaaWFmBbQVYrjn3qNjqaVlQLFTO1WE0=; b=iVU4HELF7r+i9zh7TGz4d5jrzCn3QVutsYc4Yp6yNxFpXYp9YPlSLfGG5oj1UEvQHIls6uqbNjmLAEZFWe4Gj86ZwNS6iujUz+PefSkCt51fGjWg0DFXwpVyB0Q/mHThEqvOmYb7eO6xKW8LGaYRVCDxzXUqVNOeD82e2CgzDg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XKH6yAtJmEYc78v87ZWhmpA9G2K25bCjjkUxTcMN3ctBISzyjdUQxBvZPHSZXFqu00fzWhHSBgUMo8MzRwno/8X483MyuwcKt+AxLh7aBFOYcJCTeLnkZzO2xI9Jzdc7nN6AllpuNFzzJ9lpnGVsIq1jQ4bISnpSAnU/bw61iIg= Received: by 10.141.152.8 with SMTP id e8mr2599146rvo.19.1206392885517; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.1.1.4? ( [125.237.212.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k34sm1219737rvb.23.2008.03.24.14.07.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47E81806.5020200@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:07:18 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko References: <3DBB2E22-5095-45B8-A1DB-0BD3180B994A@nokia.com> <5D8C4ED5-94B8-4B73-9E29-512FD02DBF0F@cisco.com> <47E7D7B0.2080703@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <47E7D7B0.2080703@piuha.net> Cc: Cullen Jennings , Lars Eggert , Tools Discuss Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Request about the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org maillists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-03-25 05:32, Jari Arkko wrote: > FWIW, I have found out that as an IETF participant in various roles I > have to enter things like foo-chair@tools.ietf.org, > bar-ads@tools.ietf.org, draft-zz@tools.ietf.org etc into my filters. > > That being said, the draft-zz aliases affect the largest number of > people, so if it was easy to make them work nicely for everyone, even > those not having entered them into their filters... Yes. There are people who filter anything that appears to be bcc'ed, too. Expanding the alias would be best, if there's a magic tool to do that. Brian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 24 14:12:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4603A6E9F; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:12:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.746 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.746 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.309, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j-PQyo0mggMP; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750CB3A6DBB; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:12:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14593A6D66 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:12:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g7QSc6Y-VUhx for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3DE3A6BCB for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so1968606wra.13 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:09:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W7HAxn9I5CKDaKYa1CPXUh67lT7vYl7J46RPypuump0=; b=A7GGzm3glXLQIRV3nzpF1m5Aypoca2KC2v/2mEeZCfZEJd70DuaDpwlkgiEhLzGHwVPzNbYwiIc2rpafXqUgpesrXz1gS7qkdaI+LM2yc+H2cb2SzZ8YILd2D2M+nO3xawD+PyBVufdZ4ue5+a0VZ4ZfaUn3BTGImyLWnhWa1nA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AIU1/VydxlWjxm+MPWcdXme8qPBveu+EvAo8LXnXnGhKy7J48RudzYOIHGLBapa6LxH/VMi7XESSgEin5acGDrXAtV4FQvIomOSvW/Xk9ITwAA7mNsvcZqCXf1b7UjQ3932U0E+eZe1h13D/SeTAj5H8MHw/vRk3DHO7e6gpEko= Received: by 10.140.170.12 with SMTP id s12mr2611267rve.83.1206392998350; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.1.1.4? ( [125.237.212.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k19sm1230726rvb.18.2008.03.24.14.09.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47E8189C.6020406@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:09:48 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <3DBB2E22-5095-45B8-A1DB-0BD3180B994A@nokia.com> <47E79BC5.3050309@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <47E79BC5.3050309@levkowetz.com> Cc: ext Cullen Jennings , Jari Arkko , Tools Discuss , Lars Eggert Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Request about the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org mail lists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-03-25 01:17, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > > On 2008-03-24 10:00 Lars Eggert said the following: >> On 2008-3-22, at 18:29, ext Cullen Jennings wrote: >>> I've been having problems where an author of a draft. say foo@bar.com, >>> is not reading emails sent to draft-xxx email address. The issues >>> seems to be that they are filtering in a way that expects foo@bar.com >>> to be in the To or CC header. They point out that they did not know >>> that needed to set up filters for every draft they write and don't >>> want to do that. >> >> They'd just need to not filter when From contains "@tools.ietf.org". > > *slaps forehead* Of course. That makes me feel easier about not being > able to find a way to replace the To: with the final recipients. But, the whole population of potential authors needs to know this. That would need to be in the instructions somewhere. Brian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 24 14:31:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C5C28C2D0; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:31:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.797 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.797 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.360, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xPYHvK4IUjLT; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324D93A6C6D; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:30:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A353A693E for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:30:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ezJgtkaspDhj for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877A93A6A60 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35550 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JduDQ-00063c-1M; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:28:24 +0100 Message-ID: <47E81CF7.6090805@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:28:23 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian E Carpenter References: <3DBB2E22-5095-45B8-A1DB-0BD3180B994A@nokia.com> <5D8C4ED5-94B8-4B73-9E29-512FD02DBF0F@cisco.com> <47E7D7B0.2080703@piuha.net> <47E81806.5020200@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47E81806.5020200@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com, jari.arkko@piuha.net, fluffy@cisco.com, lars.eggert@nokia.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Cullen Jennings , Jari Arkko , Tools Discuss , Lars Eggert Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Request about the draft-xxx@tools.ietf.org maillists X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0935578582==" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0935578582== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig15BA0050F9C5781165023170" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig15BA0050F9C5781165023170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-03-24 22:07 Brian E Carpenter said the following: > On 2008-03-25 05:32, Jari Arkko wrote: >> FWIW, I have found out that as an IETF participant in various roles I >> have to enter things like foo-chair@tools.ietf.org, >> bar-ads@tools.ietf.org, draft-zz@tools.ietf.org etc into my filters. >> >> That being said, the draft-zz aliases affect the largest number of >> people, so if it was easy to make them work nicely for everyone, even >> those not having entered them into their filters... >=20 > Yes. There are people who filter anything that appears to be > bcc'ed, too. Expanding the alias would be best, if there's > a magic tool to do that. I'll keep looking for this, but don't have any brilliant ideas right now -- everything I've tried with Exim so far has come up short. Maybe one day I'll switch to postfix where it seems there's a standard solution for this. Henrik --------------enig15BA0050F9C5781165023170 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFH6Bz3eVhrtTJkXCMRAtwWAKDlbQ1QJM50Cz7hCIzV9HH/uIzY/ACbB3o8 QpRTcgmEyXa7BAqZ/zCQCrc= =ij3P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig15BA0050F9C5781165023170-- --===============0935578582== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============0935578582==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 25 04:27:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9122228C422; 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Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD763A67B0 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (unknown [121.44.186.244]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B8223E3FC for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Mark Nottingham To: Tools Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:24:39 +1100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Subject: [Tools-discuss] trac database locked X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org trying to log into trac, I get: > Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/python-support/ > python2.4/trac/web/main.py", line 406, in dispatch_request > dispatcher.dispatch(req) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/ > trac/web/main.py", line 237, in dispatch resp = > chosen_handler.process_request(req) File "/var/lib/python-support/ > python2.4/trac/web/auth.py", line 100, in process_request > self._do_login(req) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/trac/web/ > auth.py", line 141, in _do_login db.commit() OperationalError: > database is locked -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 25 08:59:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8063A6F1D; 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Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8823A6865 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36467 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JeBVf-0007rX-BB; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:56:23 +0100 Message-ID: <47E920A7.3080905@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:56:23 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nottingham References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: mnot@mnot.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Tools Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] trac database locked X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Mark, On 2008-03-25 12:24 Mark Nottingham said the following: > trying to log into trac, I get: > >> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/python-support/ >> python2.4/trac/web/main.py", line 406, in dispatch_request >> dispatcher.dispatch(req) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/ >> trac/web/main.py", line 237, in dispatch resp = >> chosen_handler.process_request(req) File "/var/lib/python-support/ >> python2.4/trac/web/auth.py", line 100, in process_request >> self._do_login(req) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/trac/web/ >> auth.py", line 141, in _do_login db.commit() OperationalError: >> database is locked I see one failure on tools.ietf.org for /wg/httpbis/trac/changeset/50, and one oher at about the same time for another (non-httpbis) URL. I can't reproduce this myself now though; but I'm looking at other log files to try to find time coincidental stuff. Could you try again and see if the result is the same, please? Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 25 17:20:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D97A3A6B61; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:20:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.414 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.414 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.977, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kX-5bnmNnwGI; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C2B3A6B4C; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:20:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD85D3A6AA1 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gxHnXLMX31iR for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4A63A6AA0 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [216.145.54.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B99D0562; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9B408DB0-3D94-44E7-8205-8B0EA06F0963@mnot.net> From: Mark Nottingham To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <47E920A7.3080905@levkowetz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:18:07 +1100 References: <47E920A7.3080905@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Tools Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] trac database locked X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Works now -- thanks. On 26/03/2008, at 2:56 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Mark, > > On 2008-03-25 12:24 Mark Nottingham said the following: >> trying to log into trac, I get: >>> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/python-support/ >>> python2.4/trac/web/main.py", line 406, in dispatch_request >>> dispatcher.dispatch(req) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/ >>> trac/web/main.py", line 237, in dispatch resp = >>> chosen_handler.process_request(req) File "/var/lib/python-support/ >>> python2.4/trac/web/auth.py", line 100, in process_request >>> self._do_login(req) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/trac/ >>> web/ auth.py", line 141, in _do_login db.commit() >>> OperationalError: database is locked > > I see one failure on tools.ietf.org for /wg/httpbis/trac/changeset/50, > and one oher at about the same time for another (non-httpbis) URL. > > I can't reproduce this myself now though; but I'm looking at other log > files to try to find time coincidental stuff. > > Could you try again and see if the result is the same, please? > > > Henrik -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 26 17:38:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9563A6FA0; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:38:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.093 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.093 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.656, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KqkkFrhIo5Xl; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FCD3A6F98; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:38:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45403A6F98 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:38:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XPEgjeTLDd67 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E25E3A6F97 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2008 17:36:20 -0700 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m2R0aKkm024412; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:36:20 -0700 Received: from dwingwxp01 ([10.32.240.197]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2R0aJLu000457; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:36:19 GMT From: "Dan Wing" To: "'Henrik Levkowetz'" References: <02b401c88b6f$6d2f8280$c5f0200a@cisco.com> <47E3E6A1.5020508@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:36:19 -0700 Message-ID: <055d01c88fa2$93691330$c5f0200a@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <47E3E6A1.5020508@levkowetz.com> Thread-Index: AciLc0l1W9ic2BCFQ+W9TXr+dXUQdAELtf8w DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1606; t=1206578180; x=1207442180; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=dwing@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Dan=20Wing=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[Tools-discuss]=20IDST=3A=20cancelled=2 0messages |Sender:=20; bh=QFoe36oa7iZIkywnn+UL6kR8aHKgYOj1p3xKMwygjJo=; b=YDCOM4LTe+XQTTjm5RsxgJ1qGF1YEaogEWYorch/D8kUl5l7RSucgbVukE cAufAppaCYBypjH0G4weGdImagPJLTRsZEbtD6N1DEXbFF7OgG995h/x8A8g elxPFV/rpM; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=dwing@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IDST: cancelled messages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Henrik Levkowetz [mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com] > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:47 AM > To: Dan Wing > Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IDST: cancelled messages > > Hi Dan, > > On 2008-03-21 17:20 Dan Wing said the following: > > I am puzzled why cancelling an IDST post causes > notification to be sent to all > > of the document authors, rather than just the author that > submitted (and > > cancelled) the IDST post. Could someone educate me on this? > > I am equally puzzled. The spec (RFC 4228) certainly does not > specify this. > > I think this 'just happened to be implemented that way' and > once we have the > Django rewrite of the tool up and running, I'd like this to > be changed. Today I found a reason it might be implemented this way. If you submit your draft and it gets stuck (due to unparsable meta- data, for example), it sits in the staging area. At this moment, the following draft is stuck there: http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/staging/draft-kaplan-behave-twist-00.txt While it is stuck there, anyone could click on the link and cancel the post. I suppose the intent of the email to all of the authors is to make them aware of this event. I guess this makes sense. However, it is only necessary to inform all of the authors _after_ the "post now" button is pressed on the https://datatracker.ietf.org/idst/validate.cgi?submission_id=NNNNN page; currently, pressing Cancel on that page causes the email to all of the authors to be sent. -d _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 27 02:14:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90193A6F9F; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:14:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.514 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.514 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W2MV0gxGDWY0; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C773A6F53; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:14:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2003A6F53 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:14:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gy+8HTmLJoZy for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F033A6E84 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59673 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jeo9e-0003D9-KV; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:12:14 +0100 Message-ID: <47EB64EE.60605@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:12:14 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Wing References: <02b401c88b6f$6d2f8280$c5f0200a@cisco.com> <47E3E6A1.5020508@levkowetz.com> <055d01c88fa2$93691330$c5f0200a@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <055d01c88fa2$93691330$c5f0200a@cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: dwing@cisco.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IDST: cancelled messages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Dan, On 2008-03-27 01:36 Dan Wing said the following: > Today I found a reason it might be implemented this way. If you > submit your draft and it gets stuck (due to unparsable meta- > data, for example), it sits in the staging area. At this moment, > the following draft is stuck there: > > http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/staging/draft-kaplan-behave-twist-00.txt > > While it is stuck there, anyone could click on the link and cancel > the post. > > I suppose the intent of the email to all of the authors is to make them > aware of this event. > > > I guess this makes sense. Yes, but as you say below, only at that stage. > However, it is only necessary to inform all of the authors _after_ > the "post now" button is pressed on the > https://datatracker.ietf.org/idst/validate.cgi?submission_id=NNNNN > page; currently, pressing Cancel on that page causes the email to > all of the authors to be sent. Which we agree is less than perfect :-) _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 27 04:14:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDE428C885; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:14:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.707 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.707 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.270, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7E5uYyzO3tDJ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1223A6A9D; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:14:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBAD28C68A for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:14:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2OXq1L+LIGhW for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36ACA28C840 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so129606and.122 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:12:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=545KHwPC/7a3+NWAOcOx8pQYI5kJLRIazMabtTdjXqk=; b=e598GdR9G9K5xGIpd+7rKn+nopg32/5xCoUol/h+0YSauFAWcR9mocvXEAfCtoz5032LPR7fKDhXyS/woHhvytWCGEBgb7iT7aEyTowPHv9zFWbl5XraNmsWcM7Fsxg7tFdPRqtTTU8dO8sX+1clUnUKDXtW+l9/DMITC1EimPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=n1AY8GZzFo5i4m3NCilv9yR9cA8NgqCdDVVeij6ou3q6IkEZP8KkNObKu8JY1FBycDl/ThWo9Pe06uk7cYNXePqLhmGdCrI7bevtR9qu/jcacczP5Q3Zy6LD1Wz362/EACy5Gx+bNQwLdgpEw82WFUiAlZIAUU3Xtql3dpEKjug= Received: by 10.101.69.6 with SMTP id w6mr2962711ank.92.1206616322961; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.3.13 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374005f30803270412j668afc74mee582aae8640bafd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:42:02 +0530 From: "Ian Chakeres" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [Tools-discuss] rfc2xml alpha X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I recently got around to making something that takes RFC/I-D formatted text and creates xml; with the help of Chris Newman. It is called rfc2xml and it is available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/rfc2xml/ It only creates the middle part of the I-D, and it doesn't do anything fancy. But it does appear to get pretty good mileage. I'd love it if interested IETF tools people could contribute and ensure it is stable. Please let me know how it works for you, Ian Chakeres _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 27 09:41:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88993A6E71; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:41:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.158, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rTXqF3OgxEj6; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350D43A6C5E; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:41:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86113A6C5B for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:41:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z03PntyM0vGW for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D493A68FB for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c10so2001324nfd.39 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:38:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=LaR60E6rFpSeqr4GmBXbiw5LduZhm6T9hyVnENhf7tI=; b=trGOeqhEB1XPoIeg9SgvQKDxsSH5nWl+7DG/DL5ucE0cukleXn72O94o98BFLuurcD7zjxv3JTvws2qhvLdOCho21hspxLgosUKqdKwwDZi5nXxsWwYV/l2JP0l49kzGuMjAN/2VDmRy9L6ZSwevhYU0QCyC9xHNErBeBGhVCWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hWvn+VZpC31hCRS+E1kiM6+7/t2PitXb6G7J01ynLk+asHe+Po0wTITTV8Vb+xc11DBMDN2iKCl6+BuTetvYpZKmvGetmqCqeuDbyfNS0ZINS1XKeQdLieQDlAZgigx54Ylmv8ZOfb1AZ491XuJweNHyv9hT7zlBMOyABJir9iQ= Received: by 10.78.190.5 with SMTP id n5mr5393135huf.4.1206635933396; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.19.9 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374005f30803270938ma9b30a0v2b005152ca1c3c21@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:08:53 +0530 From: "Ian Chakeres" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] rfc2xml alpha + troff2xml X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I've also added troff2xml to the project. troff2xml was contributed by Brian Adamson. Please give it a try also. Ian Chakeres On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Ian Chakeres wrote: > I recently got around to making something that takes RFC/I-D formatted > text and creates xml; with the help of Chris Newman. It is called > rfc2xml and it is available at > http://sourceforge.net/projects/rfc2xml/ > > It only creates the middle part of the I-D, and it doesn't do anything > fancy. But it does appear to get pretty good mileage. > > I'd love it if interested IETF tools people could contribute and > ensure it is stable. > > Please let me know how it works for you, > > Ian Chakeres > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 27 11:59:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8EC3A6D02; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:59:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.179, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qYCTJkDGEXkw; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B44728C240; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:59:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562403A6BB3 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:59:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qIk1Or6AytnP for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us (drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us [168.143.123.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C70C28C5AB for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by drakken.dbc.mtview.ca.us (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m2RIu8uQ018336; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:56:08 -0700 From: Marshall Rose To: Ian Chakeres In-Reply-To: <374005f30803270412j668afc74mee582aae8640bafd@mail.gmail.com> References: <374005f30803270412j668afc74mee582aae8640bafd@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:56:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Carl Malamud , IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] rfc2xml alpha X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org > I recently got around to making something that takes RFC/I-D formatted > text and creates xml; with the help of Chris Newman. It is called > rfc2xml and it is available at > http://sourceforge.net/projects/rfc2xml/ > > It only creates the middle part of the I-D, and it doesn't do anything > fancy. But it does appear to get pretty good mileage. ian - hi. i think it would be very interesting to be able to have the entire rfc corpus avaialble in xml. many years ago, carl and brad wrote a script that started this process. we then had a contractor go through and flesh out the spots that the script couldn't handle. i remain interested in seeing the transcription work done. please keep us informed as to how it goes. thanks, /mtr _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 31 01:01:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA7D3A69C7; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:01:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963303A69C7 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:01:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.389, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mly28cAeG2G0 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-mx03.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.122.230]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF193A687C for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh107.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.143]) by mgw-mx03.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m2V80qRk002198; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:00:58 +0300 Received: from esebh104.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.34]) by esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:00:51 +0300 Received: from vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.160.244.59]) by esebh104.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:00:51 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:00:22 +0300 Message-ID: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB7238F024@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <167127F0-6E1F-4150-8B19-258CCA8F1FE4@dbc.mtview.ca.us> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] Internet-draft data in XML (was: Proposal for a simplerremind-on-draft-expiration tool) thread-index: AciIQNlJptAG5rUJRlSE4l0CGk+g9QKw2tOw References: <47DC8C3E.5070700@att.com> <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB721C49F4@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> <167127F0-6E1F-4150-8B19-258CCA8F1FE4@dbc.mtview.ca.us> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2008 08:00:51.0908 (UTC) FILETIME=[56B80840:01C89305] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: cabo@tzi.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Internet-draft data in XML (was: Proposal for a simplerremind-on-draft-expiration tool) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Marshall Rose wrote: > > During the Saturday code sprint, I worked on an XML version of > > all_id.txt/1id-index.txt; so something along these lines may be > > coming. I hope to post something more about this in a couple > > of weeks... > > http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/bibxml3/ > more details at http://xml.resource.org/ I'm aware of these files, but they contain just bibliographic data, not any of the process information (such as tracker state, intended status, working group name, responsible AD, "replaced by" information) that I'd need for my tools. Carsten Bormann wrote: > While this is quite nice, it does not contain all of the interesting > data from the id-tracker, such as the expiration date (which would > be needed for reliable reminder service). > > Pasi: Would that have been in your XML version? The expiration date is a bit tricky to get right, because the database contains the expiration date only for drafts that have already expired. The actual expiration is handled by a cron job, and to predict the expiration date, you need to duplicate the logic used there. Best regards, Pasi _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss