From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 16 16:04:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A583A6BA9; Fri, 16 May 2008 16:04:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27703A69C1 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 14:03:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6QioyWc5T2+s for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 14:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82213A6882 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 14:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com (beta5.sparta.com [157.185.63.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m4FL2uYM007394 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 16:02:56 -0500 Received: from nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com (nemo.columbia.sparta.com [157.185.80.75]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.12.11/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m4FL2sFP021925 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 16:02:56 -0500 Received: from localhost ([157.185.81.163]) by nemo.columbia.ads.sparta.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 15 May 2008 17:02:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:02:52 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Sandra Murphy To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: X-X-Sender: sandy@nemo.columbia.sparta.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2008 21:02:54.0025 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B11A390:01C8B6CF] X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]); Thu, 15 May 2008 16:02:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:04:24 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] nits version mismatch X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org In a discussion of draft-ietf-l1vpn-basic-mode-04.txt for secdir, I reported that that the nit checker showed 7 nits. Adrian Farrell said: >Hmmm. I wonder which nit checker you used. >http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ only reports one warning to me as a >referenced I-D has subsequently been published as an RFC. to which I replied: I looked at the page: http://www3.tools.ietf.org/wg/l1vpn/draft-ietf-l1vpn-basic-mode/ which reports: 2008-02-21 16:40 draft-ietf-l1vpn-basic-mode-04.txt [txt/plain] [txt/pdf] [nits] [diff -from-03, wdiff, txt] (7 errors (**), 0 warnings (==), 0 comments (--).) Clicking on the nits link gets you to: ... ** Downref: Normative reference to an Unknown state RFC: RFC 3471 ** Downref: Normative reference to an Unknown state RFC: RFC 3473 ** Downref: Normative reference to an Unknown state RFC: RFC 3477 ** Downref: Normative reference to an Unknown state RFC: RFC 4202 ** Downref: Normative reference to an Unknown state RFC: RFC 4204 ** Downref: Normative reference to an Unknown state RFC: RFC 4206 ** Downref: Normative reference to an Unknown state RFC: RFC 4208 Summary: 7 errors (**), 0 warnings (==), 0 comments (--). And Adrian noted: Interesting. http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ is at revision 2.08.08 The page you used is at revision 2.08.04 > ** Downref: Normative reference to an Unknown state RFC: RFC 3471 Bug in the tool :-( The RFC clearly states... Category: Standards Track And I volunteered to alert the Tools Team. Hopefully, this is the right address to use for such alerts. --Sandy _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 16 17:33:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0084F3A6831; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:33:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9733A68F9 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.033 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.033 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.566, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KJdHI2m8y-aA for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA743A6831 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57097 helo=chardonnay-2.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JxAMG-0000tc-Nq; Sat, 17 May 2008 02:33:09 +0200 Message-ID: <482E27C2.6030708@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 02:33:06 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <00d601c8aa39$b9b5db20$2d219160$@com> In-Reply-To: <00d601c8aa39$b9b5db20$2d219160$@com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Text in RFC 3986 breaks RFC-HTML tool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I see that although I've responded to the poster in a mail he sent directly to me, I haven't replied here. The bug described below was fixed in rfcmarkup v1.64, on May 2nd. Henrik On 2008-04-29 22:43 Jim Bell said the following: > To Whom It May Concern: > > > > The RFC-HTML tool mangles RFC 3986 a little. > > > > Appendix C in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt has this paragraph: > > Yes, Jim, I found it under "http://www.w3.org/Addressing/", > > but you can probably pick it up from > com/rfc/>. Note the warning in > ietf/uri/historical.html#WARNING>. > > > > That gets mangled in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986 > > > > Regards, > > -Jim Bell > > > > P.S.: The RFC-HTML tool overall is outstanding, and I appreciate it very > much. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 16 17:45:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BCA3A6BBF; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:45:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EA73A6BBF for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:45:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.076 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.076 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.523, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WC2E7+lx3NEN for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054A83A6923 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36844 helo=chardonnay-2.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JxAY5-0001rw-Js; Sat, 17 May 2008 02:45:23 +0200 Message-ID: <482E2A9F.10003@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 02:45:19 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sandra Murphy References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: sandy@sparta.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] nits version mismatch X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Sandy, Inline: On 2008-05-15 23:02 Sandra Murphy said the following: > In a discussion of draft-ietf-l1vpn-basic-mode-04.txt for secdir, I > reported that that the nit checker showed 7 nits. Adrian Farrell said: > >> Hmmm. I wonder which nit checker you used. >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ only reports one warning to me as a >> referenced I-D has subsequently been published as an RFC. > > to which I replied: > > I looked at the page: > http://www3.tools.ietf.org/wg/l1vpn/draft-ietf-l1vpn-basic-mode/ > which reports: > > > 2008-02-21 16:40 draft-ietf-l1vpn-basic-mode-04.txt > [txt/plain] [txt/pdf] [nits] [diff -from-03, wdiff, txt] > (7 errors (**), 0 warnings (==), 0 comments (--).) Hmm. Right. When I set up the script which creates that page, the things that idnits checked were more limited, and in particular the check result weren't dependent on referenced IDs later being published. I need to change the page to provide a link to a real-time run of idnits. ... >> ** Downref: Normative reference to an Unknown state RFC: RFC 3471 > > Bug in the tool :-( Hm. When was this run? There was a glitch where the RFC state information was unavailable for about a day some time ago -- this might be from that time. Otherwise I need more information to debug it. FWIW idnits does not show that warning now: If you go to the html version of the draft, at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l1vpn-basic-mode-04 there is a link at the top right which leads to an on-the-fly run of idnits, which a moment ago returned: ... == Outdated reference: draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-stitching has been published as RFC 5150 Summary: 0 errors (**), 1 warning (==), 0 comments (--). ... > The RFC clearly states... > Category: Standards Track > > > And I volunteered to alert the Tools Team. > > Hopefully, this is the right address to use for such alerts. It is :-) Thanks. I'll change the static information on pages like the one you originally used so that it will lead to an on-the-fly check, which should be as good as is possible given the changing state of published documents. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue May 20 20:51:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300CE3A6DF7; Tue, 20 May 2008 20:51:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E8528C3D7 for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 20:51:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.322 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.322 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.277, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OF4B9RC5xirC for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 20:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FB5293E57 for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 20:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2021321rvf.49 for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 20:04:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zhRPBJoA7ncUjndb6SqzxvJsws+lR7jJAhghxeo/f/w=; b=uJ+jbcUNR4gQBDYwcO/ub9ZiJ/V52KnOLqGfl788IkHAS//lV+Owhfk18kn9VvabZP95ZfJHTBDyEKm+aBbIfvIwhRsWsbS/aLmkDvVbzgFgdiT+b2DEszaZ7FnrmtAtgzQXNLPp/KO7qQR2/gPxxQd33oyJ8R20VNOrMVezrJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dIsOoYiJ/JhASCvpRgsuOVWtVyKaBDQGK05HUBAAOaCGsOoNDDiGre8eCOgfolwBeHvSyS8tG25gpNIl43hTVG76oabmI1cZKEI5szsGYaExFuq9+hdzkQacrPBuh0A1cdXIKLsr98VK7uCdC/Zulz5BhWmHyRrWl24duYNQ9Zc= Received: by 10.141.74.17 with SMTP id b17mr4839799rvl.113.1211339041173; Tue, 20 May 2008 20:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?130.216.38.124? ( [130.216.38.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm1456942rvb.4.2008.05.20.20.03.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 20 May 2008 20:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48339127.80402@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:04:07 +1200 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: [Tools-discuss] Disconcerting behavior by rfcdiff X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I just ran rfcdiff (the web service version) on draft-miyata-v6ops-trans-approach-00.txt and draft-miyata-v6ops-trans-approach-01.txt It apparently sees the second draft as an empty document. The reason is that the draft starts thus: Internet Engineering Task Force H. Miyata Internet-Draft Yokogawa Electric Corp. Intended status: Informational May 14, 2007 Expires: October 24, 2008 It should be May 14, 2008 - when I patch that error, rfcdiff works perfectly. (Incidentally, idnits doesn't detect the 18 months expiry error, and the ID submission process didn't either, but that's an issue for another list.) Brian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 21 01:57:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E163A69D5; Wed, 21 May 2008 01:57:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189463A69CD for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 01:57:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C9alNdxyPuuI for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 01:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471CD3A6878 for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 01:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59013 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jyk8x-0002AM-SQ; Wed, 21 May 2008 10:57:55 +0200 Message-ID: <4833E413.3010103@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:57:55 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian E Carpenter References: <48339127.80402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <48339127.80402@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Disconcerting behavior by rfcdiff X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Brian, On 2008-05-21 05:04 Brian E Carpenter said the following: > I just ran rfcdiff (the web service version) on > draft-miyata-v6ops-trans-approach-00.txt and > draft-miyata-v6ops-trans-approach-01.txt > > It apparently sees the second draft as an empty document. The reason > is that the draft starts thus: > > Internet Engineering Task Force H. Miyata > Internet-Draft Yokogawa Electric Corp. > Intended status: Informational May 14, 2007 > Expires: October 24, 2008 > > It should be May 14, 2008 - when I patch that error, rfcdiff > works perfectly. Yow! Will look at this at once. > (Incidentally, idnits doesn't detect the 18 months expiry error, and the > ID submission process didn't either, but that's an issue for another list.) Idnits doesn't parse and verify the dates and expiration time, currently. Adding that to the possible features list. _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 21 02:22:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D866E3A69F8; Wed, 21 May 2008 02:22:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0278C28C182 for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 02:22:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YxBAxc20MUoE for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 02:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D323A69F8 for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 02:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60989 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JykWE-00078M-PP; Wed, 21 May 2008 11:21:59 +0200 Message-ID: <4833E9B6.4080106@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 11:21:58 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian E Carpenter References: <48339127.80402@gmail.com> <4833E413.3010103@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4833E413.3010103@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Disconcerting behavior by rfcdiff X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1381412307==" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --===============1381412307== Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020608050804020009060101" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020608050804020009060101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Follow-up: On 2008-05-21 10:57 Henrik Levkowetz said the following: > Hi Brian, > > On 2008-05-21 05:04 Brian E Carpenter said the following: >> I just ran rfcdiff (the web service version) on >> draft-miyata-v6ops-trans-approach-00.txt and >> draft-miyata-v6ops-trans-approach-01.txt >> >> It apparently sees the second draft as an empty document. The reason >> is that the draft starts thus: >> >> Internet Engineering Task Force H. Miyata >> Internet-Draft Yokogawa Electric Corp. >> Intended status: Informational May 14, 2007 >> Expires: October 24, 2008 >> >> It should be May 14, 2008 - when I patch that error, rfcdiff >> works perfectly. > > Yow! Will look at this at once. Heh. The real reason for the empty document seems to be that the draft is in Mac format -- \r line endings. Your editor probably was just kind enough to fix that when you did the date edit, so the modified file used either \n or \r\n, which rfcdiff handles fine. Fixed in rfcdiff v1.35, which is online now. 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list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org The txt to pdf conversion process has somehow failed for this draft: http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-12.pdf The txt version looks OK, so I can't immediately tell why the PDF looks weird... Best regards, Pasi _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 21 06:32:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BBE28C1FA; Wed, 21 May 2008 06:32:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A320228C1FA for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 06:32:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.297 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.297 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.302, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id af5v42KrJe+7 for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 06:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-mx06.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.122.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EB328C1B7 for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 06:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-mx06.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m4LDWUNQ000830 for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 16:32:39 +0300 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 21 May 2008 16:30:50 +0300 Received: from net-207.nrpn.net ([10.241.184.208]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 21 May 2008 16:30:50 +0300 Message-Id: From: Lars Eggert To: "ext Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com" In-Reply-To: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72ADE205@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:30:45 +0300 References: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72ADE205@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2008 13:30:50.0667 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2C427B0:01C8BB46] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] PDF conversion problem X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-5-21, at 14:58, ext Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com wrote: > The txt to pdf conversion process has somehow failed for > this draft: > > http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-12.pdf > > The txt version looks OK, so I can't immediately tell why > the PDF looks weird... I'm guessing it's because it uses CR for newline. My review scripts had issues with the draft for that reason, too. Lars _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 21 07:38:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5303A6A75; Wed, 21 May 2008 07:38:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA423A6999 for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 07:38:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LDfzKOh99bYM for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 07:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560C93A682B for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 07:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46858 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JypSA-00012K-37; Wed, 21 May 2008 16:38:06 +0200 Message-ID: <483433CD.8090607@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:38:05 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com References: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72ADE205@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72ADE205@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] PDF conversion problem X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Pasi, On 2008-05-21 13:58 Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com said the following: > The txt to pdf conversion process has somehow failed for > this draft: > > http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-12.pdf > > The txt version looks OK, so I can't immediately tell why > the PDF looks weird... Hah. Same reason as for the rfcmarkup failure Brian pointed out: The .txt file has Mac (\r) line endings. I've added a handling of this case to the pdf conversion script too. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 21 14:45:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E4D28C1C3; Wed, 21 May 2008 14:45:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA73528C1AB for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 14:45:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.488 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.488 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.111, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qv6lPQymo2BE for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 14:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E352428C1C3 for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 14:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so1501550wra.13 for ; Wed, 21 May 2008 14:45:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uOj5C0sH9Gr+TFyYYKGwz99tyl6Vn0hSHnJTDBPmtlw=; b=xohR1ZyEanvodWjVA01RkSbe3sXViAbAI/4AM7te7YOXg4VSpmO6Wmf1wR80vELWvEovdFcV17lW1xnhpKnthP+GJSBwliT2867Z78HKlCDCT4djqJlcWXkLo249iHlUU4W2muN4lkSIsXtwmkWdf2QVBM4LhqIXnvsJbZXtKpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nN1Mgt7ZmYk/9Zel80ZRZRtTEGHSTGBNEwsyJuKmbIe4RAPb7Hea2FG0JW+y/TMOo0Oj+qh1q8y0/8TMfotrMp89u2aTOcnrZR4LyYgODOzC360R/lbkmidR2eYdn1xDRqTTVq60EuwL2fBpjzfunFsSXLq4kKNPXve+GMO1yV4= Received: by 10.115.72.17 with SMTP id z17mr11143321wak.223.1211406331961; Wed, 21 May 2008 14:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?130.216.38.124? ( [130.216.38.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j6sm6232363wah.30.2008.05.21.14.45.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 21 May 2008 14:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4834980C.2020606@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:45:48 +1200 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <48339127.80402@gmail.com> <4833E413.3010103@levkowetz.com> <4833E9B6.4080106@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4833E9B6.4080106@levkowetz.com> Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Disconcerting behavior by rfcdiff X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-05-21 21:21, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Follow-up: > > On 2008-05-21 10:57 Henrik Levkowetz said the following: >> Hi Brian, >> >> On 2008-05-21 05:04 Brian E Carpenter said the following: >>> I just ran rfcdiff (the web service version) on >>> draft-miyata-v6ops-trans-approach-00.txt and >>> draft-miyata-v6ops-trans-approach-01.txt >>> >>> It apparently sees the second draft as an empty document. The reason >>> is that the draft starts thus: >>> >>> Internet Engineering Task Force H. Miyata >>> Internet-Draft Yokogawa Electric Corp. >>> Intended status: Informational May 14, 2007 >>> Expires: October 24, 2008 >>> >>> It should be May 14, 2008 - when I patch that error, rfcdiff >>> works perfectly. >> >> Yow! Will look at this at once. > > Heh. The real reason for the empty document seems to be that the draft is > in Mac format -- \r line endings. Your editor probably was just kind > enough > to fix that when you did the date edit, so the modified file used either \n > or \r\n, which rfcdiff handles fine. Finally an advantage in using Windows! (The corresponding disadvantage is that it's annoyingly difficult to find out what line endings a file actually uses, without firing up cygwin.) > Fixed in rfcdiff v1.35, which is online now. Thanks. It's surprising this has never showed up before. Brian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu May 22 12:48:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B523A6B17; Thu, 22 May 2008 12:48:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7329B3A63EC for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 12:47:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.071 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.071 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.528, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pzwXfz-bmJ1G for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 12:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-mx09.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.105.134]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996473A6B22 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 12:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh106.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.213]) by mgw-mx09.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m4MJlAFd023309; Thu, 22 May 2008 14:47:15 -0500 Received: from vaebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.160.244.23]) by esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 22 May 2008 22:46:41 +0300 Received: from vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.160.244.59]) by vaebh102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 22 May 2008 22:46:40 +0300 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:46:36 +0300 Message-ID: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72B35B91@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <483433CD.8090607@levkowetz.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] PDF conversion problem Thread-Index: Aci7UFDNanEKuG0SQwm+a+EXLUVCZgA88p+A References: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72ADE205@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> <483433CD.8090607@levkowetz.com> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2008 19:46:41.0082 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E4629A0:01C8BC44] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] PDF conversion problem X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hah. Same reason as for the rfcmarkup failure Brian pointed > out: The .txt file has Mac (\r) line endings. I've added a > handling of this case to the pdf conversion script too. Thanks for looking into this! (I suspected it might have something to do with line endings, and even tried doing search-replace for CR/LF/CFLF/whatever, but it seems Emacs hides this so well from the user that search-replace for line endings doesn't always work perfectly.) Best regards, Pasi _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu May 22 13:24:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB403A6B3C; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:24:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A023A68AC for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:23:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GKMOsPsqDmzA for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vapor.isi.edu (vapor.isi.edu [128.9.64.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691733A677E for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.9.168.63] (bet.isi.edu [128.9.168.63]) by vapor.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4MKMaGB007569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 22 May 2008 13:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4835D59F.9060905@isi.edu> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:20:47 -0700 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com References: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72ADE205@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> <483433CD.8090607@levkowetz.com> <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72B35B91@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72B35B91@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: henrik@levkowetz.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] PDF conversion problem X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com wrote: | Henrik Levkowetz wrote: | |> Hah. Same reason as for the rfcmarkup failure Brian pointed |> out: The .txt file has Mac (\r) line endings. I've added a |> handling of this case to the pdf conversion script too. | | Thanks for looking into this! | | (I suspected it might have something to do with line endings, and | even tried doing search-replace for CR/LF/CFLF/whatever, but it | seems Emacs hides this so well from the user that search-replace | for line endings doesn't always work perfectly.) Emacs often treats line endings locally, i.e., using the convention of the OS on which it is installed. The only way to ensure the final .txt file has the right EOL conventions (i.e., those required in RFCs, and expected in IDs) is to perform post-processing substitution, e.g., via a script. Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFINdWfE5f5cImnZrsRAkkBAJwNq/8FpuZS+RLNmyOFPaZtklAYxQCg8SYy hPhOCvYky28XyNch3FJdQ5o= =MiIP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu May 22 14:18:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D623A6B4E; Thu, 22 May 2008 14:18:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E073A6B55 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 14:18:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ko0E5hST7Dzt for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 14:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail203.messagelabs.com (mail203.messagelabs.com [216.82.254.243]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09313A6B4E for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 14:18:19 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: tony@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-203.messagelabs.com!1211491089!20885636!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 6838 invoked from network); 22 May 2008 21:18:09 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-6.tower-203.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 May 2008 21:18:09 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4MLIISR019278 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 17:18:18 -0400 Received: from alph001.aldc.att.com (alph001.aldc.att.com [135.53.7.26]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4MLIDsC019249 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 17:18:14 -0400 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4MLIDel002318 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 17:18:13 -0400 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4MLI8aB002213 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 17:18:09 -0400 Received: from [135.25.188.60] (unknown[135.25.188.60](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20080522211808gw100l7ouue> (Authid: tony); Thu, 22 May 2008 21:18:08 +0000 Message-ID: <4835E35D.3040601@att.com> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:19:25 -0400 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72ADE205@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> <483433CD.8090607@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <483433CD.8090607@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] PDF conversion problem X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org These are probably showing up now because of the I-D web interface to upload the drafts. When things were sent in via email, the canonicalization was probably performed by the secretariat. Perhaps you could check the I-D web interface to see if it could canonicalize things better? Tony Hansen tony@att.com Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Pasi, > > On 2008-05-21 13:58 Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com said the following: >> The txt to pdf conversion process has somehow failed for >> this draft: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-12.pdf >> >> The txt version looks OK, so I can't immediately tell why >> the PDF looks weird... > > Hah. Same reason as for the rfcmarkup failure Brian pointed > out: The .txt file has Mac (\r) line endings. I've added a > handling of this case to the pdf conversion script too. _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu May 22 16:47:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DC13A6B74; Thu, 22 May 2008 16:47:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68D93A6B74 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 16:47:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fjjB8xsuyafr for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 16:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68133A6A9C for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 16:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40856 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JzKV6-0004xd-JN; Fri, 23 May 2008 01:47:12 +0200 Message-ID: <48360600.40603@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 01:47:12 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Hansen References: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72ADE205@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> <483433CD.8090607@levkowetz.com> <4835E35D.3040601@att.com> In-Reply-To: <4835E35D.3040601@att.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tony@att.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] PDF conversion problem X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Tony, On 2008-05-22 23:19 Tony Hansen said the following: > These are probably showing up now because of the I-D web interface to > upload the drafts. When things were sent in via email, the > canonicalization was probably performed by the secretariat. Perhaps you > could check the I-D web interface to see if it could canonicalize things > better? Mph. I believe there were cases like this before, too -- I can certainly remember running into documents with Mac line endings around 2002, and there are both Unix-type and DOS-type line endings in documents from the email-only submission period before the new submission tool. I think that running into this now is more an indication of an increasing number of people using native Mac tools to produce documents. As for doing line-ending normalization -- that may be a good thing to do, or maybe not -- should an author be able to assume (and verify) that the document in the archive is identically the same as the one submitted? Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu May 22 19:25:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176083A6BD4; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:25:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963863A6BD4 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.953 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.953 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.646, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gj2VDm7lBxee for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail203.messagelabs.com (mail203.messagelabs.com [216.82.254.243]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2075D3A6BAA for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:25:17 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: tony@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-203.messagelabs.com!1211509506!20943764!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.128.141] Received: (qmail 29895 invoked from network); 23 May 2008 02:25:07 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp9.sbc.com (HELO flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com) (144.160.128.141) by server-12.tower-203.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 May 2008 02:25:07 -0000 Received: from enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4N2PF8h021916 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:25:15 -0700 Received: from klph001.kcdc.att.com (klph001.kcdc.att.com [135.188.3.11]) by flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4N2PDDf021911 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 19:25:14 -0700 Received: from kcdc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by klph001.kcdc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4N2PDlF032374 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 21:25:13 -0500 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by klph001.kcdc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4N2P3OQ032313 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 21:25:06 -0500 Received: from [135.210.128.124] (unknown[135.210.128.124](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20080523022503gw100l7ovne> (Authid: tony); Fri, 23 May 2008 02:25:03 +0000 Message-ID: <48362B4B.8020800@att.com> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:26:19 -0400 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72ADE205@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> <483433CD.8090607@levkowetz.com> <4835E35D.3040601@att.com> <48360600.40603@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <48360600.40603@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] PDF conversion problem X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org There are several checks that aren't being done right now that could be done, such as looking for \r linebreaks and looking for non-ascii characters. Possibilities are to: a) silently accept such things, b) warn about but still accept, c) warn and query whether to accept as is or to convert, d) convert and tell the user it was converted, and e) silently converting. Right now it's (a). If the upload tool were to do (c) or (d), then there would be no confusion when the uploader checked the result against their input. Should the upload tool do something other than (a)? I'm sure there are many arguments either way. Tony Hansen tony@att.com Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Tony, > > On 2008-05-22 23:19 Tony Hansen said the following: >> These are probably showing up now because of the I-D web interface to >> upload the drafts. When things were sent in via email, the >> canonicalization was probably performed by the secretariat. Perhaps you >> could check the I-D web interface to see if it could canonicalize things >> better? > > Mph. I believe there were cases like this before, too -- I can certainly > remember running into documents with Mac line endings around 2002, and > there are both Unix-type and DOS-type line endings in documents from the > email-only submission period before the new submission tool. I think that > running into this now is more an indication of an increasing number of > people using native Mac tools to produce documents. > > As for doing line-ending normalization -- that may be a good thing to do, > or maybe not -- should an author be able to assume (and verify) that the > document in the archive is identically the same as the one submitted? _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu May 22 22:11:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632693A6C49; Thu, 22 May 2008 22:11:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104043A6C49 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 22:11:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6SO9sSMr9VkD for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 22:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vapor.isi.edu (vapor.isi.edu [128.9.64.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE463A6C48 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 22:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pool-71-106-109-69.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.106.109.69]) by vapor.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4N5AOiO001083 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 22 May 2008 22:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483651BB.9090405@isi.edu> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:10:19 -0700 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Hansen References: <1696498986EFEC4D9153717DA325CB72ADE205@vaebe104.NOE.Nokia.com> <483433CD.8090607@levkowetz.com> <4835E35D.3040601@att.com> <48360600.40603@levkowetz.com> <48362B4B.8020800@att.com> In-Reply-To: <48362B4B.8020800@att.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] PDF conversion problem X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1417490011==" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1417490011== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig408DB73A1CE33868BFB9BF03" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig408DB73A1CE33868BFB9BF03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The script I developed for the Word template (URL below) might be useful = in this regard; it catches non-ASCII characters, lines over length, etc. = It would be fairly simple to update it to replace various linebreaks=20 with the common form. If that's of interest, let me know and I'll update the code... Joe http://www.isi.edu/touch/tools/2-Word-post-v2.0.pl Tony Hansen wrote: > There are several checks that aren't being done right now that could be= =20 > done, such as looking for \r linebreaks and looking for non-ascii=20 > characters. Possibilities are to: a) silently accept such things, b)=20 > warn about but still accept, c) warn and query whether to accept as is = > or to convert, d) convert and tell the user it was converted, and e)=20 > silently converting. Right now it's (a). If the upload tool were to do = > (c) or (d), then there would be no confusion when the uploader checked = > the result against their input. Should the upload tool do something=20 > other than (a)? I'm sure there are many arguments either way. >=20 > Tony Hansen > tony@att.com >=20 > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Tony, >> >> On 2008-05-22 23:19 Tony Hansen said the following: >>> These are probably showing up now because of the I-D web interface to= =20 >>> upload the drafts. When things were sent in via email, the=20 >>> canonicalization was probably performed by the secretariat. Perhaps y= ou=20 >>> could check the I-D web interface to see if it could canonicalize thi= ngs=20 >>> better? >> Mph. I believe there were cases like this before, too -- I can certai= nly >> remember running into documents with Mac line endings around 2002, and= >> there are both Unix-type and DOS-type line endings in documents from t= he >> email-only submission period before the new submission tool. I think = that >> running into this now is more an indication of an increasing number of= >> people using native Mac tools to produce documents. >> >> As for doing line-ending normalization -- that may be a good thing to = do, >> or maybe not -- should an author be able to assume (and verify) that t= he >> document in the archive is identically the same as the one submitted? >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --------------enig408DB73A1CE33868BFB9BF03 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFINlHAE5f5cImnZrsRAlqXAJ4h0kQD1SY4rt1ab6y7tIjCWWUQFACfYjpt V4RCom+WOvT8S669Rl0/ofs= =0Tke -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig408DB73A1CE33868BFB9BF03-- --===============1417490011== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============1417490011==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat May 24 07:59:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31743A6A0A; Sat, 24 May 2008 07:59:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFDB3A6917 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 07:59:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.413 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.413 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IGS23tfTbCX7 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 07:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF36E3A6A20 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 07:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JzvD7-0002xd-2E for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 24 May 2008 14:59:05 +0000 Received: from p5b10d82e.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.16.216.46]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 14:59:05 +0000 Received: from nobody by p5b10d82e.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 14:59:05 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:58:26 +0200 Organization: Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20080524043001.5CC6E3A6827@core3.amsl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b10d82e.dip.t-dialin.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Subject: [Tools-discuss] A. Local-part, et al. (was: I-D Action:draft-levine-dkim-adsp-00.txt) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org wrote: > Author(s) : A. Local-part, et al. Something with the draft submit tool still does not work as expected for multiple authors. I reported this some weeks ago, so maybe s/still/again/ if it is the old bug. Frank > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-levine-dkim-adsp-00.txt _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat May 31 11:01:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A583A691C; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:01:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57663A6AE1 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:01:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31y-JeOBLnnJ for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C133A6C42 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d18so298896and.122 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.178.7 with SMTP id a7mr11726878anf.73.1212256844829; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.95.1 with HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54e226890805311100o431befbek57f64e76ba19f6db@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 14:00:44 -0400 From: "Bill Fenner" To: "Frank Ellermann" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080524043001.5CC6E3A6827@core3.amsl.com> Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] A. Local-part, et al. (was: I-D Action:draft-levine-dkim-adsp-00.txt) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Frank Ellermann wrote: > wrote: > >> Author(s) : A. Local-part, et al. > > Something with the draft submit tool still does not work > as expected for multiple authors. I reported this some > weeks ago, so maybe s/still/again/ if it is the old bug. Frank, You'll be pleased to know that the new I-D Submission tool is much better at parsing out author names and addresses - e.g., I ran the new parser across the example you gave, and got: [{'author_order': 1, 'first_name': 'Steve', 'last_name': 'Atkins', 'email_address': 'steve-asp@wordtothewise.com'}, {'author_order': 2, 'first_name': 'Jon', 'last_name': 'Callas', 'email_address': 'jon@pgp.com'}, {'author_order': 3, 'first_name': 'John', 'last_name': 'Levine', 'email_address': 'standards@taugh.com'}, {'author_order': 4, 'first_name': 'Ellen', 'last_name': 'Siegel', 'email_address': 'esiegel@constantcontact.com'}] which I think is completely correct. There's an open question about what to do about old, bad data in the IETF database - for example, if you ask the IETF database who steve-asp@wordtothewise.com is, it says his name is "Author Domain". Normally, the tool trusts the database over the extracted info, since the extraction is all done with heuristics, so a new submission would continue to have this incorrect name info. (Oddly, I don't know where "A. Local-part" came from at all; I would have expected "A. Domain".) This new version should be deployed in June. Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss