From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 4 08:44:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC9A28C22D; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:44:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E3428C22D for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:44:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.046 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.046 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gG2Ge-sw8XyJ for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F0D3A6836 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.162] (dsl-63-249-108-169.cruzio.com [63.249.108.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m74FhPdP065319 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:43:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:43:24 -0700 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Subject: [Tools-discuss] Python code for extracting title from an RFC or Draft? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Greetings again. I looked on the tools site and don't see any source code. I would love a tool that, given a draft or RFC, extracts the title from the top of the first page. (Extra points for pulling out the abstract). If I have to do it as "given the filename, look in 1id-abstracts.txt or rfc-index.xml", that's fine, but I would like the code for that as well. No wheel-recreating, if not needed. As a side note, it seems odd that the code y'all have created isn't on tools.ietf.org... --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 4 09:39:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3266C3A6978; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:39:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472563A6978 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:39:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zzFV43siF7IG for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F3F3A6897 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46968 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ36O-0000bM-QG; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:40:08 +0200 Message-ID: <489730E8.2010207@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:40:08 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: paul.hoffman@vpnc.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Python code for extracting title from an RFC or Draft? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-08-04 17:43 Paul Hoffman said the following: > Greetings again. I looked on the tools site and don't see any source > code. I would love a tool that, given a draft or RFC, extracts the > title from the top of the first page. (Extra points for pulling out > the abstract). If I have to do it as "given the filename, look in > 1id-abstracts.txt or rfc-index.xml", that's fine, but I would like > the code for that as well. No wheel-recreating, if not needed. > > As a side note, it seems odd that the code y'all have created isn't > on tools.ietf.org... Maybe it's mostly a matter of a missing index page and documentation, or something, I guess ... The datatracker source is available through http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb and the following covers a number of other known and unknown tools. Not all will be up-to-date and used in generating the tools pages, but you're welcome to browse and comment. http://tools.ietf.org/tools/doublespace http://tools.ietf.org/tools/getdrafts http://tools.ietf.org/tools/html-404 http://tools.ietf.org/tools/htmlize http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idcomments http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idreplaced http://tools.ietf.org/tools/id_rss http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idspell http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfcal http://tools.ietf.org/tools/libsmi http://tools.ietf.org/tools/loginmgr http://tools.ietf.org/tools/mini-index http://tools.ietf.org/tools/mq http://tools.ietf.org/tools/msglint http://tools.ietf.org/tools/postconfirmd http://tools.ietf.org/tools/pyht http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcindex http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcmarkup http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfc_rss http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcstrip http://tools.ietf.org/tools/searchplugins http://tools.ietf.org/tools/sv http://tools.ietf.org/tools/wg-pages Regards, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 4 09:43:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C1D3A6CDE; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:43:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB69C3A6CDE for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:43:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SIyNf6AP+2WQ for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vapor.isi.edu (vapor.isi.edu [128.9.64.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F133A6CB1 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [12.196.53.164] ([12.196.53.164]) by vapor.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m74GhEpI011929 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4897317C.8080406@isi.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:42:36 -0700 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <489730E8.2010207@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <489730E8.2010207@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: Paul Hoffman , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Python code for extracting title from an RFC or Draft? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Henrik Levkowetz wrote: | | | On 2008-08-04 17:43 Paul Hoffman said the following: |> Greetings again. I looked on the tools site and don't see any source |> code. I would love a tool that, given a draft or RFC, extracts the |> title from the top of the first page. (Extra points for pulling out |> the abstract). If I have to do it as "given the filename, look in |> 1id-abstracts.txt or rfc-index.xml", that's fine, but I would like the |> code for that as well. No wheel-recreating, if not needed. Why not pull the info from the XML rfc-index? Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiXMXwACgkQE5f5cImnZrul7wCeM5nvYt/BEbYWmo5cb6z/nYl9 w4wAn3bm44ZzCwFjpmEAz1n1BkHErtG0 =e5Qh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 4 10:22:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3FB3A6D34; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:22:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB1F3A6D34 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:22:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.046 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.046 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U5efs1QUHQa2 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522163A6914 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.162] (dsl-63-249-108-169.cruzio.com [63.249.108.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m74HLvvC072915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:21:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4897317C.8080406@isi.edu> References: <489730E8.2010207@levkowetz.com> <4897317C.8080406@isi.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:21:32 -0700 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Python code for extracting title from an RFC or Draft? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org At 9:42 AM -0700 8/4/08, Joe Touch wrote: >Why not pull the info from the XML rfc-index? As I said, I'm happy to. If someone has already written the code to do so, that would help. I haven't done any XML coding in Python before. It is actually more important for me to be able to pull it for Internet Drafts. I don't see anything on Henrik's list that does either of these... --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 4 11:52:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9333D3A6B50; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:52:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD703A6B50 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:52:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p7QcX9IO8BJS for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65C13A6A99 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51934 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ5BJ-0007Rm-3g; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:53:21 +0200 Message-ID: <48975020.3090608@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:53:20 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Touch References: <489730E8.2010207@levkowetz.com> <4897317C.8080406@isi.edu> In-Reply-To: <4897317C.8080406@isi.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: touch@ISI.EDU, paul.hoffman@vpnc.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Paul Hoffman , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Python code for extracting title from an RFC or Draft? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1435314969==" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1435314969== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9BCF6893F313BA63AAA39658" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9BCF6893F313BA63AAA39658 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-08-04 18:42 Joe Touch said the following: >=20 >=20 > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > | > | > | On 2008-08-04 17:43 Paul Hoffman said the following: > |> Greetings again. I looked on the tools site and don't see any source= > |> code. I would love a tool that, given a draft or RFC, extracts the > |> title from the top of the first page. (Extra points for pulling out > |> the abstract). If I have to do it as "given the filename, look in > |> 1id-abstracts.txt or rfc-index.xml", that's fine, but I would like t= he > |> code for that as well. No wheel-recreating, if not needed. >=20 > Why not pull the info from the XML rfc-index? For RFCs specifically you could do that, and I also have the titles avail= able, in a variety of other formats, but that doesn't match Paul's specificatio= n of being able to extract title from both Drafts and RFCs... Henrik --------------enig9BCF6893F313BA63AAA39658 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAkiXUCAACgkQeVhrtTJkXCNk1gCfQFquVk6etdD1LSXIMqtNePTH 0mcAn0qfgqWnyev+beZ4TXtra+tUw7iI =baDt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9BCF6893F313BA63AAA39658-- --===============1435314969== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============1435314969==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 4 19:16:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1273A6A2C; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:16:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6405D3A68AB for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:16:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.144, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YYl+JYnDN1PG for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vapor.isi.edu (vapor.isi.edu [128.9.64.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FA93A690B for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.121] (bolongo.jbtelenet.com [204.11.152.116]) by vapor.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m752G0kP019426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4897B7B9.2070500@isi.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:15:21 -0700 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <489730E8.2010207@levkowetz.com> <4897317C.8080406@isi.edu> <48975020.3090608@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <48975020.3090608@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: Paul Hoffman , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Python code for extracting title from an RFC or Draft? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Henrik Levkowetz wrote: | | | On 2008-08-04 18:42 Joe Touch said the following: |> |> |> Henrik Levkowetz wrote: |> | |> | |> | On 2008-08-04 17:43 Paul Hoffman said the following: |> |> Greetings again. I looked on the tools site and don't see any source |> |> code. I would love a tool that, given a draft or RFC, extracts the |> |> title from the top of the first page. (Extra points for pulling out |> |> the abstract). If I have to do it as "given the filename, look in |> |> 1id-abstracts.txt or rfc-index.xml", that's fine, but I would like the |> |> code for that as well. No wheel-recreating, if not needed. |> |> Why not pull the info from the XML rfc-index? | | For RFCs specifically you could do that, and I also have the titles | available, | in a variety of other formats, but that doesn't match Paul's | specification of | being able to extract title from both Drafts and RFCs... Hmmm. Given the automation of the ID submission process, it might be useful to ask the ID-administrator to support this rather than screen scraping (or page scraping, as the case may be). Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiXt7kACgkQE5f5cImnZrtgYgCff6f/4pWMD8L1xk7Lhx3Encox UUoAoMBjLB1lYsAvi4sYt3N0i7tcdTyW =J/OS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Aug 6 08:41:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCCE3A6860; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:41:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85D43A6860 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.682 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.682 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.883, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_53=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_73=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_83=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aITBmruDkstq for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAF33A67D8 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:41:36 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,315,1215388800"; d="scan'208";a="136514298" Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2008 15:42:10 +0000 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m76FgAR6004996; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:42:10 -0700 Received: from dwingwxp01 ([10.32.240.194]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m76Fg4jp014312; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:42:06 GMT From: "Dan Wing" To: "'Paul Hoffman'" , References: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:42:02 -0700 Message-ID: <006101c8f7da$fc6e2ff0$c2f0200a@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acj2SVWlYVhRv924QZG0ESViGeBIQABSWwkA In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2394; t=1218037330; x=1218901330; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=dwing@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Dan=20Wing=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[Tools-discuss]=20Python=20code=20for=2 0extracting=20title=20from=20an=20RFC=20orDraft? |Sender:=20; bh=BRClYJx8yqQtoNjyrfyHyenPcwdU1othXDd3Sviz+sw=; b=KWhTHsNKX+yKWocxBQSjfQTB+3GnKveGd5cVVyBnPfyWvdTibC7VxV+/aM q3jWy2Y0T/l3s9eam/abMBSnrvQsmhJ2OIfIugSZaR7jj78MwExNW7UWmI2/ tcH8YrX9cv; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=dwing@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Python code for extracting title from an RFC orDraft? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org (resending; mailman didn't like my .zip attachment.) I have been using abstract.sed for awhile, and just whipped up title.sed tonight for you. Hope it helps, both are in http://www2.fuggles.com/paul.zip (along with tighten.sed). To use it: sed -f abstract.sed FILENAME | sed -f tighten.sed sed -f title.sed FILENAME Examples with some RFCs and an I-D: > sed -f abstract.sed rfc1122.txt This is one RFC of a pair that defines and discusses the requirements for Internet host software. This RFC covers the communications protocol layers: link layer, IP layer, and transport layer; its companion RFC-1123 covers the application and support protocols. > sed -f abstract.sed rfc5037.txt | sed -f tighten.sed The purpose of this memo is to document how some of the requirements specified in RFC 1264 for advancing protocols developed by working groups within the IETF Routing Area to Draft Standard have been satisfied by LDP (Label Distribution Protocol). Specifically, this report documents operational experience with LDP, requirement 5 of section 5.0 in RFC 1264. > sed -f title.sed rfc5037.txt Experience with the Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) > sed -f title.sed draft-wing-avt-dtls-srtp-key-transport-02.txt DTLS-SRTP Key Transport -d > -----Original Message----- > From: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:43 AM > To: tools-discuss@ietf.org > Subject: [Tools-discuss] Python code for extracting title > from an RFC orDraft? > > Greetings again. I looked on the tools site and don't see any source > code. I would love a tool that, given a draft or RFC, extracts the > title from the top of the first page. (Extra points for pulling out > the abstract). If I have to do it as "given the filename, look in > 1id-abstracts.txt or rfc-index.xml", that's fine, but I would like > the code for that as well. No wheel-recreating, if not needed. > > As a side note, it seems odd that the code y'all have created isn't > on tools.ietf.org... > > --Paul Hoffman, Director > --VPN Consortium > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 11 19:50:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A953B28C129; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:50:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF1E3A6D3A for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Ohnlla0zJZU for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail203.messagelabs.com (mail203.messagelabs.com [216.82.254.243]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E113A67B6 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:50:00 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: tony@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-203.messagelabs.com!1218509338!29706841!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 32288 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2008 02:48:58 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-7.tower-203.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Aug 2008 02:48:58 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m7C2nJQg030211 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:49:19 -0400 Received: from alph001.aldc.att.com (alph001.aldc.att.com [135.53.7.26]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m7C2nFWa030188 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:49:15 -0400 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m7C2nF4m017398 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:49:15 -0400 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m7C2nC9I017378 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:49:12 -0400 Received: from [135.210.105.14] (unknown[135.210.105.14](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20080812024911gw1003snv5e> (Authid: tony); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:49:11 +0000 Message-ID: <48A0FA27.1070603@att.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:49:11 -0400 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Team Discussion X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Subject: [Tools-discuss] abnf extracting code? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Does anyone have some code that does a good job of extracting ABNF information from an RFC/I-D? If we can find some code that does a decent job, an idea for tools.ietf.org would be tools.ietf.org/abnf/RFC# It would work just like tools.ietf.org/html/, but show the extracted ABNF code from the given RFC or I-D. Tony Hansen tony@att.com _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Aug 12 00:50:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6ED23A684F; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:50:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69903A67AA for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:50:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QYJTeOiuqL46 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-mx03.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.122.230]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A103A684F for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh106.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.213]) by mgw-mx03.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m7C7m0oT015854; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:48:26 +0300 Received: from vaebh103.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.160.244.24]) by esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:47:39 +0300 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by vaebh103.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:47:39 +0300 Received: from net-204.nrpn.net ([10.241.184.208]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:47:34 +0300 Message-Id: From: Lars Eggert To: ext Tony Hansen In-Reply-To: <48A0FA27.1070603@att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:47:27 +0300 References: <48A0FA27.1070603@att.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2008 07:47:34.0336 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEAEB400:01C8FC4F] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] abnf extracting code? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2008-8-12, at 5:49, ext Tony Hansen wrote: > Does anyone have some code that does a good job of extracting ABNF > information from an RFC/I-D? The tarball for Bill Fenner's ABNF validator at http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/ietf/bap/ contains aex, which seems to work pretty well. Lars _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 15 22:05:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370B93A6B2B; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:05:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EC13A6B2B for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:05:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vrhzq4q2rV-V for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9681E3A6B12 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D732198745; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:05:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81601985A1; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:05:04 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <48A66039.2090000@piuha.net> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:06:01 +0300 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz , IETF TOOLS discussion X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: [Tools-discuss] tools wg pages broken? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I'm seeing the tools wg pages fail in a random fashion. For instance, if I access I get the usual framing structure correctly, but the document frame contains just this: "An error occurred at this point in the web-page generation. An error report has been sent to the webmaster. If this error isn't fixed within 48 hours, please contact the web page author directly. " However, curiously, this does not always happen. *Sometimes* I get the real thing. Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 15 22:16:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924E53A6B18; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:16:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C333A682A for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:16:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.471 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.471 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.128, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UWCg4g7Tuqhu for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C5B3A6A7C for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F7C198745; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:16:26 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DE41985A1; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:16:26 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <48A662E2.4080804@piuha.net> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:17:22 +0300 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz , IETF TOOLS discussion References: <48A66039.2090000@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <48A66039.2090000@piuha.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] tools wg pages broken? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I forgot to paste the URL that I was using, but it was http://tools.ietf.org/wg/v6ops Jari Jari Arkko wrote: > I'm seeing the tools wg pages fail in a random fashion. For instance, > if I access > > I get the usual framing structure correctly, but the document frame > contains just this: > > "An error occurred at this point in the web-page generation. An error > report has been sent to the webmaster. If this error isn't fixed > within 48 hours, please contact the web page author directly. " > > However, curiously, this does not always happen. *Sometimes* I get the > real thing. > > Jari > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 15 23:47:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629E33A6959; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:47:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D3A3A6959 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:47:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.774 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.774 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.110, BAYES_00=-2.599, FROM_LOCAL_NOVOWEL=3.196, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ES8XBRiwnQK for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7543A6844 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KUFZX-0003RZ-1X for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:47:35 +0000 Received: from 212.82.251.138 ([212.82.251.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:47:35 +0000 Received: from hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz by 212.82.251.138 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:47:35 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:49:19 +0200 Organization: Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <48A66039.2090000@piuha.net> <48A662E2.4080804@piuha.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.82.251.138 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] tools wg pages broken? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Jari Arkko wrote: > it was http://tools.ietf.org/wg/v6ops on cabernet.verkstad.net fails. on merlot.tools.ietf.org is okay. elsewhere is also okay. Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Aug 16 08:36:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFFE3A6BAE; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:36:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77E83A6B83 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22F0M3XCMGoV for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A9C3A6BA7 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58181 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KUNox-0007NB-Pp; Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:36:03 +0200 Message-ID: <48A6F3E3.4020101@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:36:03 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko References: <48A66039.2090000@piuha.net> <48A662E2.4080804@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <48A662E2.4080804@piuha.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jari.arkko@piuha.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] tools wg pages broken? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Jari, On 2008-08-16 07:17 Jari Arkko said the following: > I forgot to paste the URL that I was using, but it was > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/v6ops > > Jari > > Jari Arkko wrote: >> I'm seeing the tools wg pages fail in a random fashion. For instance, >> if I access >> >> I get the usual framing structure correctly, but the document frame >> contains just this: >> >> "An error occurred at this point in the web-page generation. An error >> report has been sent to the webmaster. If this error isn't fixed >> within 48 hours, please contact the web page author directly. " >> >> However, curiously, this does not always happen. *Sometimes* I get the >> real thing. One of the servers had a problem with accessing the issue database. This is fixed for that server for now, but it is associated with the impending upgrade of Trac to the next major release (0.11). I'm going to try to do that for all servers today and tomorrow, hopefully without more than a momentarily service impact (a minute or so). I'd have caught this sooner if I hadn't been on my way back today from a great Linux BierWanderung event in Samnaun, Switzerland :-) Best, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Aug 20 11:13:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579C53A68F3; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:13:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F123A6C40 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:13:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id re4+yWePo4yR for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7B83A6C4A for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so96433qwe.31 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.214.46.9 with SMTP id t9mr632832qat.34.1219255569611; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tela.lan ( [71.224.149.185]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h38sm278028wxd.13.2008.08.20.11.05.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <7A73FB6F-5409-463C-B16D-D748F9F53575@fenron.com> From: Bill Fenner To: Lars Eggert In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:05:37 -0400 References: <48A0FA27.1070603@att.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Cc: ext Tony Hansen , Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] abnf extracting code? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On Aug 12, 2008, at 3:47 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: > The tarball for Bill Fenner's ABNF validator at http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/ietf/bap/ > contains aex, which seems to work pretty well. bap's new home is http://bap.googlecode.com/ and you can download aex individually at http://bap.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/aex . Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Aug 20 13:12:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528133A684B; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66373A684B for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HKDMYeKNALS8 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3279D3A67FF for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43583 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KVu2G-0000bQ-EC; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:12:05 +0200 Message-ID: <48AC7A93.6010305@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:12:03 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Hansen References: <48A0FA27.1070603@att.com> In-Reply-To: <48A0FA27.1070603@att.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tony@att.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] abnf extracting code? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, On 2008-08-12 04:49 Tony Hansen said the following: > Does anyone have some code that does a good job of extracting ABNF > information from an RFC/I-D? > > If we can find some code that does a decent job, an idea for > tools.ietf.org would be > > tools.ietf.org/abnf/RFC# and then Bill Fenner responded to a followup from Lars Eggert with: >> The tarball for Bill Fenner's ABNF validator at http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/ietf/bap/ >> contains aex, which seems to work pretty well. > > bap's new home is http://bap.googlecode.com/ and you can download aex > individually at http://bap.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/aex . Tony's idea has been implemented using Bill Fenner's 'aex': http://tools.ietf.org/abnf/ Regards, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Aug 20 14:04:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE793A69AD; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:04:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9945A3A69C7 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:04:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LU0APXRbwPXR for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail121.messagelabs.com (mail121.messagelabs.com [216.82.245.115]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5202D3A69AD for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:04:44 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: tony@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-121.messagelabs.com!1219266278!18239405!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.128.141] Received: (qmail 28598 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2008 21:04:39 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp9.sbc.com (HELO flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com) (144.160.128.141) by server-2.tower-121.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Aug 2008 21:04:39 -0000 Received: from enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7KL4bTc001752 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:04:37 -0700 Received: from klph001.kcdc.att.com (klph001.kcdc.att.com [135.188.3.11]) by flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7KL4V4f001673 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:04:32 -0700 Received: from kcdc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by klph001.kcdc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m7KL4Vcw028321 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:04:31 -0500 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by klph001.kcdc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m7KL4OYi028246 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:04:24 -0500 Received: from [135.91.110.222] (th1395-n.ugd.att.com[135.91.110.222](untrusted sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20080820210423gw1003snj2e> (Authid: tony); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:04:23 +0000 Message-ID: <48AC86D7.6080703@att.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:04:23 -0400 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <48A0FA27.1070603@att.com> <48AC7A93.6010305@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <48AC7A93.6010305@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] abnf extracting code? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org cool! thanks Henrik! Tony Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi, > > On 2008-08-12 04:49 Tony Hansen said the following: >> Does anyone have some code that does a good job of extracting ABNF >> information from an RFC/I-D? >> >> If we can find some code that does a decent job, an idea for >> tools.ietf.org would be >> >> tools.ietf.org/abnf/RFC# > > and then Bill Fenner responded to a followup from Lars Eggert with: >>> The tarball for Bill Fenner's ABNF validator at >>> http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/ietf/bap/ contains aex, which seems to >>> work pretty well. >> >> bap's new home is http://bap.googlecode.com/ and you can download aex >> individually at http://bap.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/aex . > > Tony's idea has been implemented using Bill Fenner's 'aex': > > http://tools.ietf.org/abnf/ > > Regards, > > Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 21 19:57:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF573A6C53; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:57:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4B228C167 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:52:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FROM_LOCAL_NOVOWEL=3.196] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DdEGdDHFn5Yv for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BC228C153 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so985952gxk.13 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:51:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=3xiyAm0eOGUVO8ZMD/ssGg18+1F/+WIRK2wtY9Rh/b0=; b=cCz81POy9y9NZ1Oq3iDVJZGY6tdl8wH8Z+H+WIpo9tW0IoZ8jo37qpfx0ddFDY6UGR 2Bi3fo33Vtl98ZUVvXMiITrsGXaX64kmJ/u6uqa1X3WmUv1HiPEk9sQxHiAcQ3DfqRZk DjLhAs5/U1heYHwr7fQLoX+2nGONEoCN+Y2vk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=INoImPuaZbuEkhIFERw3d1zvAcnS0acBpXZkRTkyM2oA+wadGOYyLTAsVQAdZJTBot lx6n+wnIJw0Cayh2qfGrK+UA2YDJs3lQW//FplpI8ns04owMHzqPALn+kUFT4+IGmBEL rynSm55CJjd/zeKnduZE+Zs4KzNbU3GiVWK2U= Received: by 10.150.51.6 with SMTP id y6mr883037yby.239.1219373496562; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.157.14 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c9550ae0808211951m2613ee05td4cab0ab1402ff6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:51:36 +0200 From: "Frank Ellermann" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [Tools-discuss] internal software error (was: abnf extracting code?) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, repost, something is apparently broken again between the tools list and Gmane... :-( ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mail Delivery System Date: 2008/8/21 Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: git-tools-discuss@m.gmane.org This is the mail system at host core3.amsl.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system : Command time limit exceeded: "/a/postconfirm/mailman post tools-discuss ietf.org" Final-Recipient: rfc822; tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;tools-discuss@ietf.org Action: failed Status: 5.3.0 Diagnostic-Code: x-unix; internal software error ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Frank Ellermann" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:09:43 +0200 Subject: Re: abnf extracting code? Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Tony's idea has been implemented using Bill Fenner's 'aex': > http://tools.ietf.org/abnf/ Brilliant, down from one hour to one second for 2821bis. Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Aug 31 09:58:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB9E3A6B56; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:58:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3008D3A6AB1 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:21:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.446 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.446 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4y+Qh8i4iTad for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate-internal3.sri.com (mailgate-internal3.SRI.COM [128.18.84.113]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D92F328C21B for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srimail1.sri.com (128.18.30.11) by mailgate-internal3.sri.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 21:19:23 -0000 Received: from [192.168.2.101] (static-72-90-189-2.nwrknj.east.verizon.net [72.90.189.2]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0K66001AZDWAFY40@mail.sri.com> for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:19:22 -0400 From: Ed Jankiewicz To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-id: <48B321DA.7070806@sri.com> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:58:17 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] draft name changes X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org just for the suggestion box, I'm sure it overfloweth... for the IETF Documents tool, consider adding a link when a draft name changes (e.g. an individual draft is adopted as a working group item), similar to the link from a draft to its publication as an RFC. It would be nice to see that http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vandevelde-v6ops-ra-guard-01 didn't just expire, but lived on as http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-ra-guard-00 for example. -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Aug 31 12:22:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87C53A69FD; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:22:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208763A69FD for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:22:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.251 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.251 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.349, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6vzcFos8lyc2 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094523A67DB for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42551 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KZsUy-0001F1-SY; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:22:08 +0200 Message-ID: <48BAEF60.8090005@levkowetz.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:22:08 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Jankiewicz References: <48B321DA.7070806@sri.com> In-Reply-To: <48B321DA.7070806@sri.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: edward.jankiewicz@sri.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] draft name changes X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Ed, On 2008-08-25 23:19 Ed Jankiewicz said the following: > just for the suggestion box, I'm sure it overfloweth... Oh, the suggesion box is doing fine, it's the pending box which is the big problem... > for the IETF Documents tool, consider adding a link when a draft name > changes (e.g. an individual draft is adopted as a working group item), > similar to the link from a draft to its publication as an RFC. It would > be nice to see that > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vandevelde-v6ops-ra-guard-01 didn't > just expire, but lived on as > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-ra-guard-00 for example. Right, good point and good idea. One problem is that there's a lot of missing information about which document replaces which. I'm going to try to synthethisise that using Lars Eggert's idea -- should have put that in place some time ago, but no time... Anyway. I've added this now, and the replaced-by links should appear if the replaced-by information is available. Best, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Aug 31 13:02:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CE23A68E6; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:02:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6000D3A68E6 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:02:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.322 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.322 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.723, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R8iaeEfc0gy1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 330403A68DE for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 Aug 2008 20:02:28 -0000 Received: from p508FE101.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.225.1] by mail.gmx.net (mp046) with SMTP; 31 Aug 2008 22:02:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX191jUF2w8V14a2KvKgCVYeVUDHLWk323ELjpGze5V JoW2b6wqO5I1Ke Message-ID: <48BAF8CB.5070501@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:02:19 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <48B321DA.7070806@sri.com> <48BAEF60.8090005@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <48BAEF60.8090005@levkowetz.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Ed Jankiewicz Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] draft name changes X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Right, good point and good idea. One problem is that there's a lot of > missing information about which document replaces which. I'm going to > try to synthethisise that using Lars Eggert's idea -- should have put > that in place some time ago, but no time... > > Anyway. I've added this now, and the replaced-by links should appear if > the replaced-by information is available. Would it be useful if the xml2rfc format captured that information somehow? BR, Julian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Aug 31 14:53:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735993A6882; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:53:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583EF3A6882 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:53:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.848 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.848 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.402, BAYES_20=-0.74, FB_WORD2_END_DOLLAR=3.294, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JsUb0lH5J8IU for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B11A3A67D8 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42311 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KZurE-0006g0-FO; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:53:16 +0200 Message-ID: <48BB12CC.4020207@levkowetz.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:53:16 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Reschke References: <48B321DA.7070806@sri.com> <48BAEF60.8090005@levkowetz.com> <48BAF8CB.5070501@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <48BAF8CB.5070501@gmx.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: julian.reschke@gmx.de, edward.jankiewicz@sri.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Ed Jankiewicz Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] draft name changes X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Julian, On 2008-08-31 22:02 Julian Reschke said the following: > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Right, good point and good idea. One problem is that there's a lot of >> missing information about which document replaces which. I'm going to >> try to synthethisise that using Lars Eggert's idea -- should have put >> that in place some time ago, but no time... >> >> Anyway. I've added this now, and the replaced-by links should appear if >> the replaced-by information is available. > > Would it be useful if the xml2rfc format captured that information somehow? Mmm. I'm not sure. The intention has been that when we have Bill's rewrite of the draft submission tool deployed, we should consider adding fields in the form to capture information like this. Capturing it in the xml2rfc format would mostly be appropriate if xml2rfc also had an option to render it in a standard way in the draft itself. For drafts which are submitted with an accompanying xml file it would be possible to pre-populate the replaced-by field in the submission meta-data verification page based on a replaced-by indication in the xml file, but it would never be a complete solution which could do away with the form field. So once the metadata verification page of the submission tool has a field for 'replaced-by', having it also in the .xml file would make things a bit easier for xml2rfc users. Before then I think it would not make a big difference, I think. (Detour...:) The question made me start to wonder how large a percentage of drafts are now being submitted with an accompanying .xml file, and a quick check gave a figure of about 28% for 2008 to date. The distribution of .xml, .txt and .pdf drafts over the years were as follows a moment ago, according to the archive on one of the tools servers: 23:46 /www/tools.ietf.org/id henrik@merlot $ ls -l | grep draft-.*\.xml$ | field 6 | cut -c 1-4 | sort -n | uniq -c | bargraph 16 2006 1% 445 2007 30% *************************** 979 2008 67% ************************************************************ 1440 Tota 480.0 Aver 33% ============================= 23:47 /www/tools.ietf.org/id henrik@merlot $ ls -l | grep draft-.*\.txt$ | field 6 | cut -c 1-4 | sort -n | uniq -c | bargraph 140 1992 0% * 8 1993 0% 203 1994 0% ** 704 1995 1% ******** 1401 1996 2% **************** 1688 1997 3% ******************* 2891 1998 5% ********************************** 2688 1999 5% ******************************* 3402 2000 6% **************************************** 4527 2001 8% ***************************************************** 4835 2002 9% ********************************************************* 4861 2003 9% ********************************************************* 4755 2004 9% ******************************************************** 4932 2005 9% ********************************************************** 5069 2006 10% ************************************************************ 4953 2007 9% ********************************************************** 3421 2008 6% **************************************** 50478 Tota 2969.3 Aver 5% =================================== 23:48 /www/tools.ietf.org/id henrik@merlot $ ls -l | grep draft-.*\.pdf$ | field 6 | cut -c 1-4 | sort -n | uniq -c | bargraph 25 2002 8% ********************** 48 2003 15% ****************************************** 31 2004 9% *************************** 28 2005 9% ************************* 67 2006 21% ************************************************************ 67 2007 21% ************************************************************ 45 2008 14% **************************************** 311 Tota 44.4 Aver 14% ======================================= Regards, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Aug 31 17:40:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6433A6944; 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Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:40:29 +0000 Message-ID: <48BB39FC.8040107@att.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:40:28 -0400 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <48B321DA.7070806@sri.com> <48BAEF60.8090005@levkowetz.com> <48BAF8CB.5070501@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <48BAF8CB.5070501@gmx.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] draft name changes X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org IMO, the internet-drafts upload tool should be capturing this information. If you put in a name that ends in -00 and it's a draft-ietf name, it should practically require the name of the I-D that is being replaced. It's fairly probable that a WG document will have starte as a personal doc. It's not just -00's that can replace other docs. I've had several docs where a couple different drafts by different authors were merged into one of the document streams. Tony Hansen tony@att.com Julian Reschke wrote: > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Right, good point and good idea. One problem is that there's a lot of >> missing information about which document replaces which. I'm going to >> try to synthethisise that using Lars Eggert's idea -- should have put >> that in place some time ago, but no time... >> >> Anyway. I've added this now, and the replaced-by links should appear if >> the replaced-by information is available. > > Would it be useful if the xml2rfc format captured that information somehow? > > BR, Julian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 1 00:14:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tools-discuss-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682393A6978; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:14:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2838E3A6978 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:14:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ijCk+04eK8cb for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D173A681B for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE4B198729; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:14:41 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5483D19865C; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:14:41 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <48BB96C2.5040407@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:16:18 +0300 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Hansen References: <48B321DA.7070806@sri.com> <48BAEF60.8090005@levkowetz.com> <48BAF8CB.5070501@gmx.de> <48BB39FC.8040107@att.com> In-Reply-To: <48BB39FC.8040107@att.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] draft name changes X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tony, > IMO, the internet-drafts upload tool should be capturing this information. > Yes. > If you put in a name that ends in -00 and it's a draft-ietf name, it > should practically require the name of the I-D that is being replaced. > It's fairly probable that a WG document will have starte as a personal doc. > Right. Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss