From glen@amsl.com Mon Mar 1 10:10:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD6628C151; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:10:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YfzXtIsi1QEC; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [64.170.98.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E9928C139; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBC4E0728; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:10:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c1a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c1a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vyt8BPgqTg4M; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (173-8-133-91-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.133.91]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B0DEE074A; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:10:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8C0307.7080307@amsl.com> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:10:15 -0800 From: Glen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:12:12 -0800 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Digital Signatures for IDs X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:10:17 -0000 All - Some time ago, Russ Housley asked me to develop a system under which Internet Drafts would be digitally signed to verify their authenticity. I am now beginning that project, and hope to have it completed quickly... at least in a manual form before Anaheim. It has come to mind that there has been some discussion on various lists about these topics, both for drafts and RFCs. This topic is now being taken up on the IETF IT list, "it@ietf.amsl.com". Because of certain other IETF and ISOC projects, this task has been delayed until now... I would like to get this moving quickly, so I'm hoping discussion can occur quickly. If you wish to be added to the IT list, please email me your request directly. Thanks! Glen From enrico.marocco@telecomitalia.it Tue Mar 2 03:18:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7993A8640 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:18:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.281 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.281 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, J_CHICKENPOX_16=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_46=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_48=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e+qyONZmaFih for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from GRFEDG702BA020.telecomitalia.it (grfedg702ba020.telecomitalia.it [156.54.233.201]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784283A8539 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from GRFHUB701BA020.griffon.local (10.188.101.111) by GRFEDG702BA020.telecomitalia.it (10.188.45.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:18:17 +0100 Received: from [163.162.173.9] (163.162.173.9) by GRFHUB701BA020.griffon.local (10.188.101.114) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:18:16 +0100 Message-ID: <4B8CF40B.3010100@telecomitalia.it> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:18:35 +0100 From: Enrico Marocco User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070605030807060509000308" Subject: [Tools-discuss] Wiki down X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:18:21 -0000 --------------ms070605030807060509000308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm pretty sure Henrik is already taking care of this, but, just in case, WG wikies seem not to be working this morning. This is the trace I get instead of the ALTO main page (http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/alto/trac/wiki): > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/api.py", line 377, in send_error > 'text/html') > File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/chrome.py", line 738, in render_template > template = self.load_template(filename, method=method) > File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/chrome.py", line 712, in load_template > return self.templates.load(filename, cls=cls) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/loader.py", line 227, in load > filename, encoding=encoding) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/loader.py", line 265, in _instantiate > allow_exec=self.allow_exec) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/base.py", line 377, in __init__ > self.stream = list(self._prepare(self._parse(source, encoding))) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/base.py", line 444, in _prepare > cls=cls or self.__class__) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/loader.py", line 227, in load > filename, encoding=encoding) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/loader.py", line 265, in _instantiate > allow_exec=self.allow_exec) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/base.py", line 377, in __init__ > self.stream = list(self._prepare(self._parse(source, encoding))) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/base.py", line 432, in _prepare > for event in substream: > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/base.py", line 444, in _prepare > cls=cls or self.__class__) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/loader.py", line 227, in load > filename, encoding=encoding) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/loader.py", line 265, in _instantiate > allow_exec=self.allow_exec) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/base.py", line 377, in __init__ > self.stream = list(self._prepare(self._parse(source, encoding))) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/base.py", line 432, in _prepare > for event in substream: > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/base.py", line 430, in _prepare > yield kind, (directives, list(substream)), pos > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/base.py", line 444, in _prepare > cls=cls or self.__class__) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/loader.py", line 227, in load > filename, encoding=encoding) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/loader.py", line 265, in _instantiate > allow_exec=self.allow_exec) > File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/genshi/template/base.py", line 379, in __init__ > raise TemplateSyntaxError(e.msg, self.filepath, e.lineno, e.offset) > TemplateSyntaxError: mismatched tag: line 202, column 10 (/www/tools.ietf.org/inc/narrow-menu.html, line 202) -- Ciao, Enrico --------------ms070605030807060509000308 Content-Type: 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tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uXnSUc4cyyRI for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0B43A8CA1 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:33:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-200-8.a212.priv.bahnhof.se ([81.170.200.8]:57461) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmZiM-00086n-Pn; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:33:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4B8D841A.1040806@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:33:14 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Enrico Marocco References: <4B8CF40B.3010100@telecomitalia.it> In-Reply-To: <4B8CF40B.3010100@telecomitalia.it> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.170.200.8 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: enrico.marocco@telecomitalia.it, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:09:26 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Wiki down X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:33:22 -0000 Hi Enrico, On 2010-03-02 12:18 Enrico Marocco said the following: > I'm pretty sure Henrik is already taking care of this, but, just in > case, WG wikies seem not to be working this morning. Fixed earlier today. A template file had an unmatched closing tag, which the template expansion code didn't like. Sorry for the trouble! Best, Henrik From enrico.marocco@telecomitalia.it Tue Mar 2 22:27:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795C628C23D for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:27:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.695 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.695 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BbkE8ay5nJki for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from GRFEDG702BA020.telecomitalia.it (grfedg702ba020.telecomitalia.it [156.54.233.201]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CBF28C236 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from grfhub704ba020.griffon.local (10.188.101.117) by GRFEDG702BA020.telecomitalia.it (10.188.45.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:26:58 +0100 Received: from GRFMBX702BA020.griffon.local ([10.188.101.11]) by grfhub704ba020.griffon.local ([10.188.101.117]) with mapi; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:26:58 +0100 From: Marocco Enrico To: Henrik Levkowetz Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:25:32 +0100 Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] Wiki down Thread-Index: Acq6moY8nrgUnU+HROi3dECLzdaqyQ== Message-ID: <8AE2C465-B358-49C6-BD7C-84C9D52E144C@telecomitalia.it> References: <4B8CF40B.3010100@telecomitalia.it> <4B8D841A.1040806@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8D841A.1040806@levkowetz.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Wiki down X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:27:02 -0000 Thanks Henrik, I noticed it got fixed minutes after my email. We all appreciate your outstanding work! -- Ciao, Enrico Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2010, at 22:33, "Henrik Levkowetz" wrote: > Hi Enrico, > > On 2010-03-02 12:18 Enrico Marocco said the following: >> I'm pretty sure Henrik is already taking care of this, but, just in >> case, WG wikies seem not to be working this morning. > > Fixed earlier today. A template file had an unmatched closing > tag, which the template expansion code didn't like. Sorry for the > trouble! > > > Best, > > Henrik Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle per= sone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dall= a conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abb= iate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di dar= ne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione= , Grazie. 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From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed Mar 3 04:49:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9E13A8DC4 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 04:49:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kSoyVYakQWLA for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 04:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BE13A8DBE for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 04:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:55670 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nmo0Z-0001Vh-Gz; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:49:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4B8E5ABA.3090603@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:48:58 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David H Gunnells References: <2A167874B3C32546A3B20E4818FB4963562BE46A84@UABEXMBS2.ad.uab.edu> In-Reply-To: <2A167874B3C32546A3B20E4818FB4963562BE46A84@UABEXMBS2.ad.uab.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: gunnells@uab.edu, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:09:26 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Rfcmarkup-1.86 feedback X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:49:07 -0000 Hi David, On 2010-02-11 20:21 David H Gunnells said: > Hello, > > I noticed a few problems with the output of rfcmarkup 1.85a, fixes > for which I do not see mentioned in the changelog for 1.86 > (http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcmarkup/changeloghttp://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcmarkup/changelog). > > 1) When a section is specified in reference to an RFC external > to the RFC currently being viewed, rfcmarkup links to an anchor in > the current document instead of the external RFC referenced on the > same line. > > For example, go to http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4021#section-2.1.1. > Under "Specification document(s):" you see: > > RFC 2822 > [18] (section > 3.6.1) > > As you can see, the RFC 2822 link is correct as is the link for > reference 18. The section 3.6.1 link should go to > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.6.1 instead of > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4021#section-3.6.1. Yes. This is one of many similar special cases, and I acknowledge the flaw, while deciding to not tackle this at this time. > I'm guessing that rfcmarkup could look for an RFC x preceding any > "section y" (only on the same line & skipping any references) and > then append the section anchor link to said RFC x link and that would > be a good start. > > I noticed a few sections in the rfcmarkup code that (seem to?) > attempt to address this situation, but I am not well versed in python > or regular expressions enough to be able to decipher or help much. > Looking at the sections # contents link markup: section links, # > section number tag markup, and # section number link markup, I wonder > if there is a conflict somewhere that breaks this. I think it's the intervening internal reference link which prevents the correct linkage in this case. > 2) When two or more sections are referenced in the same > sentence, links are not generated, assumedly due to the "s" appended > to section. > > See the last sentence in the third paragraph in section 3.6 of RFC > 2822: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.6 Right. Fixed in the recently released v1.87 > 3) When a section reference is split across two different lines, > a link is not generated. Hmm. I'll have to look some more at this case -- the split across lines should not matter, but... > See the last paragraph in section 3.6.2 of RFC 2822, > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.6.2, where it says "See > also section 3.6.3 for more...". Thank you for writing and for pointing out these flaws; I was aware of some of them, but at this stage of the tools development it's mostly when people write in to point out specific flaws that I get the impetus to fix particular issues. Best regards, Henrik From Jeff.Hodges@KingsMountain.com Wed Mar 3 13:47:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A905E3A8E18 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:47:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.965 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.965 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W++rZLRW4DMV for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ABFA13A8993 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1181 invoked by uid 0); 3 Mar 2010 21:47:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box514.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.114) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2010 21:47:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kingsmountain.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=gXNGuMhHNHiLPqqgP3HDSDDxXtJXZwzf7EdD6pHeWiQtOQV6gNBOTCL3w5k2SGujofM22tOj4UVv5B/axIYFcr7ivlxYH26hIJ8ImysHX9/Vt8scrMrkJR628j5chtAo; Received: from c-67-161-32-29.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([67.161.32.29] helo=[192.168.11.16]) by box514.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmwPj-0002cG-9S; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:47:31 -0700 Message-ID: <4B8ED8F1.6070201@KingsMountain.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:47:29 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz , IETF Tools List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {11025:box514.bluehost.com:kingsmou:kingsmountain.com} {sentby:smtp auth 67.161.32.29 authed with jeff.hodges+kingsmountain.com} Subject: [Tools-discuss] trac supposed to send email to WG list upon changes to tickets? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:47:30 -0000 IIRC, I've seen messages wrt trac tickets, generated by trac upon changes to tickets, go by on various WG mailing lists, yes? We haven't had any such messages on the http-state@ list. I looked into this a while back and can't find my notes right now, but as I recall it looked like it was because the official WG name is "httpstate" but the working group mailing list is named "http-state" for historical reasons. If trac ought to be emitting email to the WG mailing list for various things, is there a way to config trac to use the WG's actual mailing list name? thanks, =JeffH From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed Mar 3 15:27:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6665E28C29F for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:27:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sloEu-+BNe7k for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [194.146.105.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BBB28C28A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-200-8.a212.priv.bahnhof.se ([81.170.200.8]:51287) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmxyR-00051A-Be; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:27:27 +0100 Message-ID: <4B8EF05E.7060506@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:27:26 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =JeffH References: <4B8ED8F1.6070201@KingsMountain.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8ED8F1.6070201@KingsMountain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.170.200.8 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: Jeff.Hodges@KingsMountain.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:09:26 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: IETF Tools List Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] trac supposed to send email to WG list upon changes to tickets? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:27:32 -0000 Hi Jeff, On 2010-03-03 22:47 =JeffH said the following: > IIRC, I've seen messages wrt trac tickets, generated by trac upon changes to > tickets, go by on various WG mailing lists, yes? Yep. > We haven't had any such messages on the http-state@ list. I looked into this a > while back and can't find my notes right now, but as I recall it looked like it > was because the official WG name is "httpstate" but the working group mailing > list is named "http-state" for historical reasons. > > If trac ought to be emitting email to the WG mailing list for various things, > is there a way to config trac to use the WG's actual mailing list name? Yes. I've changed the notification address in the trac.ini file from httpstate@ to http-state@ietf.org: --------- ... [notification] #smtp_server = localhost #smtp_port = 25 #smtp_from = trac@tools.ietf.org smtp_from_name = httpstate issue tracker #smtp_replyto = httpstate@ietf.org #always_notify_owner = true #always_notify_reporter = true smtp_always_cc = http-state@ietf.org #smtp_user = #smtp_password = #mime_encoding = none ---------- Best, Henrik From enrico.marocco@telecomitalia.it Thu Mar 4 02:53:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094D73A88C5 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:53:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.781 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.781 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BIYLS7W0FIS6 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:53:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from GRFEDG702BA020.telecomitalia.it (grfedg702ba020.telecomitalia.it [156.54.233.201]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAA83A77DE for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from GRFHUB701BA020.griffon.local (10.188.101.111) by GRFEDG702BA020.telecomitalia.it (10.188.45.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:53:23 +0100 Received: from [163.162.173.9] (163.162.173.9) by GRFHUB701BA020.griffon.local (10.188.101.114) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:53:23 +0100 Message-ID: <4B8F9135.1040902@telecomitalia.it> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:53:41 +0100 From: Enrico Marocco User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <4B846066.8040905@stpeter.im> <4B847A26.3050704@levkowetz.com> <4B848482.5050603@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4B848482.5050603@stpeter.im> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020204020600000705010900" Cc: Henrik Levkowetz , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] flaky wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:53:27 -0000 --------------ms020204020600000705010900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > He said that he would edit the page and then the text that he added did > not show up in the editing interface after he saved his changes. I ran > into a similar problem on the same wiki, but for me the changes didn't > show up on the rendered page. If I force-reloaded the page, it was fine. > Quite possibly a caching issue in a particular browser (I'm using FF > 3.5.7 on OS X 10.5.8, not sure about Jean-Marc). I'd be happy to test > further. I'd experienced the same flakiness for some time. When decided to debug the issue a little bit, I began by switching to HTTPS to bypass the badly broken HTTP proxy I'm usually behind. And everything worked like a charm. In other words, quick fix: switch to HTTPS. Debug hint: look in the middle, for stuff like ISA Servers(TM) or maybe a misconfigured mod_cache. BTW: In my environment (FF 3.5.8 on Debian sid) the issue is almost deterministically reproducible by signing in and out repeatedly on the same page. After a few cycles for warming the evil cache up, the displaying of the edit/attach/... buttons is completely out-of-synch with my actual login status. -- Ciao, Enrico --------------ms020204020600000705010900 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIPADCC BEYwggOvoAMCAQICEGb9R+PCGeToms2Z3fU6yyQwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwXzELMAkGA1UE BhMCVVMxFzAVBgNVBAoTDlZlcmlTaWduLCBJbmMuMTcwNQYDVQQLEy5DbGFzcyAxIFB1Ymxp YyBQcmltYXJ5IENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gQXV0aG9yaXR5MB4XDTA1MTAyODAwMDAwMFoXDTE1 MTAyNzIzNTk1OVowgd0xCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjEf MB0GA1UECxMWVmVyaVNpZ24gVHJ1c3QgTmV0d29yazE7MDkGA1UECxMyVGVybXMgb2YgdXNl IGF0IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnZlcmlzaWduLmNvbS9ycGEgKGMpMDUxHjAcBgNVBAsTFVBlcnNv bmEgTm90IFZhbGlkYXRlZDE3MDUGA1UEAxMuVmVyaVNpZ24gQ2xhc3MgMSBJbmRpdmlkdWFs 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changes to tickets? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:55:56 -0000 > Yes. I've changed the notification address in the trac.ini file from > httpstate@ to http-state@ietf.org: thanks! =JeffH From falk@bbn.com Mon Mar 8 06:22:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B246F3A6962 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:22:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.400, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LmNPDPRQUgSg for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.0.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C803A6904 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 06:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp89-081-142.bbn.com ([128.89.81.142]) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtps (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NodqY-000Gjf-7K; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:22:14 -0500 Message-ID: <4B950815.6020706@bbn.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:22:13 -0500 From: Aaron Falk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000302030103060708020906" Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: [Tools-discuss] IRTF site question: group ordering X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:22:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000302030103060708020906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Henrik- In the attached file (found at http://www.irtf.org/groups) lists active research groups. Is it possible to control the order? My preference would be to have them alphabetical. 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Is it possible to control the order? My preference > would be to have them alphabetical. I believe the following change to the inc/helpers.php file should make the order alphabetical (by acronym): henrik@shiraz $ diff -u inc/helpers.php,1 inc/helpers.php --- inc/helpers.php,1 2007-01-09 03:09:29.000000000 +0100 +++ inc/helpers.php 2010-03-08 16:48:47.000000000 +0100 @@ -34,6 +34,7 @@ } function showgroupnames($dirname) { $groups=listgroups($dirname); + natcasesort($groups); $names=getnames($dirname, $groups); echo "
    \n"; foreach ($groups as $group) { Best, Henrik From falk@bbn.com Mon Mar 8 08:32:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7813A6A55 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:32:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.12 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.320, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BHQpL2pweiNA for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:32:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.0.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7103E3A69C0 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:32:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp89-081-142.bbn.com ([128.89.81.142]) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtps (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NofsZ-000M7E-2V; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:32:27 -0500 Message-ID: <4B95269A.1070906@bbn.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:32:26 -0500 From: Aaron Falk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <4B950815.6020706@bbn.com> <4B951D2B.20904@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4B951D2B.20904@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IRTF site question: group ordering X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:32:28 -0000 Excellent. Thanks! --aaron On 3/8/10 10:52 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Aaron, > > On 2010-03-08 15:22 Aaron Falk said: > >> Hi Henrik- >> >> In the attached file (found at http://www.irtf.org/groups) lists active >> research groups. Is it possible to control the order? My preference >> would be to have them alphabetical. >> > I believe the following change to the inc/helpers.php file should make the > order alphabetical (by acronym): > > henrik@shiraz $ diff -u inc/helpers.php,1 inc/helpers.php > --- inc/helpers.php,1 2007-01-09 03:09:29.000000000 +0100 > +++ inc/helpers.php 2010-03-08 16:48:47.000000000 +0100 > @@ -34,6 +34,7 @@ > } > function showgroupnames($dirname) { > $groups=listgroups($dirname); > + natcasesort($groups); > $names=getnames($dirname, $groups); > echo "
      \n"; > foreach ($groups as $group) { > > > Best, > > Henrik > > From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Mar 9 10:27:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C12E3A6915 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:27:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.046, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ispc5S+sVqGA for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8683A69B2 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-245.cisco.com (dhcp-64-101-72-245.cisco.com [64.101.72.245]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AC5940E14 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:27:09 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B9692FC.3010509@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:27:08 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020009010901060100040103" Subject: [Tools-discuss] source control repository? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:27:06 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020009010901060100040103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has the Tools Team considered offering a source control system to working groups and document authors? The Codec WG has been talking informally about hosting codec-related source code, but a system like this might be most helpful to spec authors as well... 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--------------ms020009010901060100040103-- From adam@nostrum.com Tue Mar 9 10:29:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3283A692B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:29:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ykbw-RN5+aTE for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (shaman.nostrum.com [72.232.179.90]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FBA3A6915 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from hydra-3.local (ppp-70-249-147-216.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [70.249.147.216]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o29ITld8090899 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:29:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4B96939B.60007@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:29:47 -0600 From: Adam Roach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <4B9692FC.3010509@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4B9692FC.3010509@stpeter.im> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050306010002010906010104" Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 70.249.147.216 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] source control repository? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:29:57 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050306010002010906010104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many authors in the RAI area have informally been using the SVN repository hosted by the resiprocate project for internet-draft revision control for some time now. It has been immensely helpful. I agree that having this kind of functionality generally available would be a very useful service. /a On 3/9/10 12:27, Mar 9, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Has the Tools Team considered offering a source control system to > working groups and document authors? The Codec WG has been talking > informally about hosting codec-related source code, but a system like > this might be most helpful to spec authors as well... > > Peter > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > --------------050306010002010906010104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many authors in the RAI area have informally been using the SVN repository hosted by the resiprocate project for internet-draft revision control for some time now. It has been immensely helpful. I agree that having this kind of functionality generally available would be a very useful service.

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      On 3/9/10 12:27, Mar 9, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: 
      Has the Tools Team considered offering a source control system to
working groups and document authors? The Codec WG has been talking
informally about hosting codec-related source code, but a system like
this might be most helpful to spec authors as well...

Peter

  
      
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      --------------050306010002010906010104-- From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Mar 9 11:01:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CAE3A6A65 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:01:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RE0+bVmZAgCF for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C0B3A6A5E for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-245.cisco.com (dhcp-64-101-72-245.cisco.com [64.101.72.245]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 32D3840E14; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:01:13 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B969AF7.4070602@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:01:11 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Roach References: <4B9692FC.3010509@stpeter.im> <4B96939B.60007@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <4B96939B.60007@nostrum.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090703080304070706050804" Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] source control repository? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:01:10 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090703080304070706050804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/9/10 11:29 AM, Adam Roach wrote: > Many authors in the RAI area have informally been using the SVN > repository hosted by the resiprocate project for internet-draft revisio= n > control for some time now. It has been immensely helpful. I agree that > having this kind of functionality generally available would be a very > useful service. I do too, but I hesitate to impose such a significant burden on the tools team unless I volunteer to help. :) Peter --------------ms090703080304070706050804 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIWnDCC B1cwggY/oAMCAQICAVUwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgYwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQK Ew1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSswKQYDVQQLEyJTZWN1cmUgRGlnaXRhbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBT aWduaW5nMTgwNgYDVQQDEy9TdGFydENvbSBDbGFzcyAzIFByaW1hcnkgSW50ZXJtZWRpYXRl IENsaWVudCBDQTAeFw0wOTA3MDYwMDAwMDFaFw0xMDA3MDYyMzU5NTlaMIHCMQswCQYDVQQG EwJVUzERMA8GA1UECBMIQ29sb3JhZG8xDzANBgNVBAcTBkRlbnZlcjEiMCAGA1UEChMZWE1Q UCBTdGFuZGFyZHMgRm91bmRhdGlvbjEsMCoGA1UECxMjU3RhcnRDb20gVHJ1c3RlZCBDZXJ0 aWZpY2F0ZSBNZW1iZXIxGjAYBgNVBAMTEVBldGVyIFNhaW50LUFuZHJlMSEwHwYJKoZIhvcN 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alias); 09 Mar 2010 19:24:00 -0000 Received: from p508FD7FD.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.33]) [80.143.215.253] by mail.gmx.net (mp048) with SMTP; 09 Mar 2010 20:24:00 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Oza4db0BO/S9K+dvahcD91RaWf52QMQW4vKxTK3 QgaVOm5jBhf1KN Message-ID: <4B96A041.7030705@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:23:45 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <4B9692FC.3010509@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4B9692FC.3010509@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.70999999999999996 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] source control repository? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:24:10 -0000 On 09.03.2010 19:27, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Has the Tools Team considered offering a source control system to > working groups and document authors? The Codec WG has been talking > informally about hosting codec-related source code, but a system like > this might be most helpful to spec authors as well... Like that? :-) Best regards, Julian From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Mar 9 11:26:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FF63A6A28 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:26:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Aow78WXkETK9 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7A63A6A08 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-245.cisco.com (dhcp-64-101-72-245.cisco.com [64.101.72.245]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 776DA40E15 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:27:03 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B96A106.3070408@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:27:02 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <4B9692FC.3010509@stpeter.im> <4B96A041.7030705@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4B96A041.7030705@gmx.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040203020406060606090202" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] source control repository? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:26:59 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040203020406060606090202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/9/10 12:23 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 09.03.2010 19:27, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> Has the Tools Team considered offering a source control system to >> working groups and document authors? The Codec WG has been talking >> informally about hosting codec-related source code, but a system like >> this might be most helpful to spec authors as well... >=20 > Like that? >=20 > Either you are really fast or you have amazing foresight. :) --------------ms040203020406060606090202 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIWnDCC B1cwggY/oAMCAQICAVUwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgYwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQK Ew1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSswKQYDVQQLEyJTZWN1cmUgRGlnaXRhbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBT aWduaW5nMTgwNgYDVQQDEy9TdGFydENvbSBDbGFzcyAzIFByaW1hcnkgSW50ZXJtZWRpYXRl IENsaWVudCBDQTAeFw0wOTA3MDYwMDAwMDFaFw0xMDA3MDYyMzU5NTlaMIHCMQswCQYDVQQG EwJVUzERMA8GA1UECBMIQ29sb3JhZG8xDzANBgNVBAcTBkRlbnZlcjEiMCAGA1UEChMZWE1Q UCBTdGFuZGFyZHMgRm91bmRhdGlvbjEsMCoGA1UECxMjU3RhcnRDb20gVHJ1c3RlZCBDZXJ0 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; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Mar 2010 19:46:11 -0000 Received: from p508FD7FD.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.33]) [80.143.215.253] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 09 Mar 2010 20:46:11 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Kc0w+fmEKC+LQtgzi1SRNT0QF5PPyGUlQ/M0zOc 3jnDR3JiT1GA5E Message-ID: <4B96A57B.6@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:46:03 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <4B9692FC.3010509@stpeter.im> <4B96A041.7030705@gmx.de> <4B96A106.3070408@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4B96A106.3070408@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.66000000000000003 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] source control repository? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:46:18 -0000 On 09.03.2010 20:27, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 3/9/10 12:23 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> On 09.03.2010 19:27, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> Has the Tools Team considered offering a source control system to >>> working groups and document authors? The Codec WG has been talking >>> informally about hosting codec-related source code, but a system like >>> this might be most helpful to spec authors as well... >> >> Like that? >> >> > > Either you are really fast or you have amazing foresight. :) It's Henrik L. having the amazing foresight. And look, there's trac, too! Best regards, Julian From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Mar 9 16:23:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FDB3A6A94 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:23:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.266 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.266 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.667, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w9ImGCEY+7Qe for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B1A3A67AF for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-200-8.a212.priv.bahnhof.se ([81.170.200.8]:53255) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Np9i0-0003pi-6S; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:23:33 +0100 Message-ID: <4B96E682.20502@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:23:30 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <4B9692FC.3010509@stpeter.im> <4B96A041.7030705@gmx.de> <4B96A106.3070408@stpeter.im> <4B96A57B.6@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4B96A57B.6@gmx.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.170.200.8 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: stpeter@stpeter.im, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:09:26 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Julian Reschke , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] source control repository? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:23:40 -0000 Hi Peter, On 2010-03-09 20:46 Julian Reschke said the following: > On 09.03.2010 20:27, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 3/9/10 12:23 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> On 09.03.2010 19:27, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>>> Has the Tools Team considered offering a source control system to >>>> working groups and document authors? The Codec WG has been talking >>>> informally about hosting codec-related source code, but a system like >>>> this might be most helpful to spec authors as well... >>> >>> Like that? >>> >>> >> >> Either you are really fast or you have amazing foresight. :) > > It's Henrik L. having the amazing foresight. > > And look, there's trac, too! As Julian has made clear before I even caught up with the thread, SVN is available for all WGs who wish to have it. It is set up automatically for all new WGs at the same time as Trac is set up. Old WGs who don't have a Track instance need only send me a message to have it set up. A message is automatically sent to the new chair about the Trac instance; I'll add information about the SVN repository to that mail, too. The Repository URL is generally http://svn.tools.ietf.org/wg//, and it permits anonymous checkout, but commit requires a tools login. Best, Henrik From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Mar 9 21:02:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4561C3A6B4F for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:02:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RuZjmg3UvfCn for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E4E3A6B4A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:02:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from squire.local (dsl-175-55.dynamic-dsl.frii.net [216.17.175.55]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11BE840D3A; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:02:53 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B9727FC.3070101@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:02:52 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <4B9692FC.3010509@stpeter.im> <4B96A041.7030705@gmx.de> <4B96A106.3070408@stpeter.im> <4B96A57B.6@gmx.de> <4B96E682.20502@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4B96E682.20502@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040808040409000805090103" Cc: Julian Reschke , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] source control repository? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:02:51 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040808040409000805090103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/9/10 5:23 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Peter, >=20 > On 2010-03-09 20:46 Julian Reschke said the following: >> On 09.03.2010 20:27, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> On 3/9/10 12:23 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>>> On 09.03.2010 19:27, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>>>> Has the Tools Team considered offering a source control system to >>>>> working groups and document authors? The Codec WG has been talking >>>>> informally about hosting codec-related source code, but a system li= ke >>>>> this might be most helpful to spec authors as well... >>>> >>>> Like that? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Either you are really fast or you have amazing foresight. :) >> >> It's Henrik L. having the amazing foresight. >> >> And look, there's trac, too! >=20 > As Julian has made clear before I even caught up with the thread, > SVN is available for all WGs who wish to have it. It is set up > automatically for all new WGs at the same time as Trac is set up. > Old WGs who don't have a Track instance need only send me a message > to have it set up. >=20 > A message is automatically sent to the new chair about the Trac instanc= e; > I'll add information about the SVN repository to that mail, too. >=20 > The Repository URL is generally http://svn.tools.ietf.org/wg//,= > and it permits anonymous checkout, but commit requires a tools login. Thanks, this is all very helpful. The Tools Team rocks! 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--------------ms040808040409000805090103-- From Jeff.Hodges@KingsMountain.com Thu Mar 11 10:59:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59513A6E50 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:59:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.422, BAYES_05=-1.11, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BZzwXpjyXLT8 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 89C793A6F8E for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:33:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10596 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2010 18:33:46 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X-Identified-User: {11025:box514.bluehost.com:kingsmou:kingsmountain.com} {sentby:smtp auth 67.161.32.29 authed with jeff.hodges+kingsmountain.com} Cc: IETF Tools List Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Manual Post Requested for draft-ietf-httpbis-security-properties-05 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:59:31 -0000 > On 2010-03-10 19:40 =JeffH said: >> well, it turns out that the problems were caused by the relatively minor bug of >> the year of the date in the source .xml file being wrong... >> >> >> >> fixing that fixed up everything such that no manual editing is required to pass >> idnits w/o (**) errors. > Aha! Ok, thanks for letting me know! welcome. Also, perhaps it would be good if idnits output one of its "(is this intentional?)" warnings or comments when it encounters an I-D with a element fairly different than the current date at the time of invocation ? thanks, =JeffH From julian.reschke@gmx.de Thu Mar 11 11:42:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F483A6C98 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:42:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.693 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.693 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.694, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_37=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KORjblsjbz8j for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 83B603A6D21 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Mar 2010 19:17:40 -0000 Received: from p508FC323.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.33]) [80.143.195.35] by mail.gmx.net (mp052) with SMTP; 11 Mar 2010 20:17:40 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX187530Ew2I7y+iG0EtfiECYGNyI7B9uMvQVh27VcF JjVio5Lc/HJg7l Message-ID: <4B9941B0.80702@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:17:04 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =JeffH References: <4B993788.1090307@KingsMountain.com> In-Reply-To: <4B993788.1090307@KingsMountain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.59999999999999998 Cc: Henrik Levkowetz , IETF Tools List Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Manual Post Requested for draft-ietf-httpbis-security-properties-05 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:42:41 -0000 On 11.03.2010 19:33, =JeffH wrote: > > > On 2010-03-10 19:40 =JeffH said: > >> well, it turns out that the problems were caused by the relatively > minor bug of > >> the year of the date in the source .xml file being wrong... > >> > >> > >> > >> fixing that fixed up everything such that no manual editing is > required to pass > >> idnits w/o (**) errors. > > > > Aha! Ok, thanks for letting me know! > > welcome. Also, perhaps it would be good if idnits output one of its "(is > this > intentional?)" warnings or comments when it encounters an I-D with a > element fairly different than the current date at the time of invocation ? rfc2629.xslt will now complain (via xsl:message, so only people running it from the command line will see it). BR, Julian From ietfdbh@comcast.net Tue Mar 16 07:17:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753BA3A6941 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:17:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.267 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.267 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.527, BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ck4FB-uc+EYt for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3223A692F for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tqAP1d0051ap0As59qH0vh; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:17:06 +0000 Received: from Harrington73653 ([24.147.241.210]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tqJ21d00F4Z4Ufs3iqJ2Eq; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:18:02 +0000 From: "David Harrington" To: Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:15:55 -0400 Message-ID: <03b801cac513$3147a5b0$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcrFEzDqO7YtYlwFTDmKEs+MqvBE1w== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:08:08 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] tools page agenda update X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:17:39 -0000 Hi, The current tools version of the agenda includes links to the audio feeds. These links are no longer useful once the meeting has completed. Could the agenda tools be updated to change the agenda link from the live audio stream to the appropriate archived audio stream after the meeting finishes? Some chairs have started adding URLs to the appropriate stream in their submitted minutes - including the time offset into the archived stream. Would it be possible to set up a wiki or something for the chairs to use to record that information, and then to use that info to improve the link to the audio archive from the session proceedings? David Harrington dbharrington@comcast.net ietfdbh@comcast.net dharrington@huawei.com From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Mar 16 08:16:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BACF3A6A98 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:16:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AIXHnEjewt-V for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592B03A6A57 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:55175 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NrYVX-0003B1-U3; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:16:36 +0100 Message-ID: <4B9FA0D3.1080201@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:16:35 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Harrington References: <03b801cac513$3147a5b0$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <03b801cac513$3147a5b0$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: ietfdbh@comcast.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:09:26 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] tools page agenda update X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:16:46 -0000 Hi David, On 2010-03-16 15:15 David Harrington said: > Hi, > > The current tools version of the agenda includes links to the audio > feeds. These links are no longer useful once the meeting has > completed. Agreed. > Could the agenda tools be updated to change the agenda link from the > live audio stream to the appropriate archived audio stream after the > meeting finishes? I've looked at this, but the task is non-trivial, because the naming of the archived streams aren't sufficiently regular that they can easily be mapped to the agenda :-( > Some chairs have started adding URLs to the appropriate stream in > their submitted minutes - including the time offset into the archived > stream. Would it be possible to set up a wiki or something for the > chairs to use to record that information, and then to use that info to > improve the link to the audio archive from the session proceedings? Hmm. Interesting idea. Setting up a wiki is trivial; how it should be used for this is not completely obvious; it would need some direction. Thoughts? Best, Henrik From ietfdbh@comcast.net Tue Mar 16 08:30:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3374E3A6B57 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:30:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.313 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.313 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.573, BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B9aRg3rhy32o for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E003A6853 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tnra1d0020ldTLk51rX4Ao; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:31:04 +0000 Received: from Harrington73653 ([24.147.241.210]) by omta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id trX31d00P4Z4Ufs3QrX3ZE; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:31:04 +0000 From: "David Harrington" To: "'Henrik Levkowetz'" References: <03b801cac513$3147a5b0$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> <4B9FA0D3.1080201@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:31:02 -0400 Message-ID: <03ce01cac51d$b04d9b80$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcrFG7Z+6KM+sQSBTTW31YHSzPnnTwAAciHw In-Reply-To: <4B9FA0D3.1080201@levkowetz.com> Cc: 'joel jaeggli' , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] tools page agenda update X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:30:56 -0000 I recommend copying joel jaegli on the discussion since he understand the audio recording process. I have copied him on this message so he can read the thread. dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: Henrik Levkowetz [mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:17 AM > To: David Harrington > Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] tools page agenda update > > Hi David, > > On 2010-03-16 15:15 David Harrington said: > > Hi, > > > > The current tools version of the agenda includes links to the audio > > feeds. These links are no longer useful once the meeting has > > completed. > > Agreed. > > > Could the agenda tools be updated to change the agenda link from the > > live audio stream to the appropriate archived audio stream after the > > meeting finishes? > > I've looked at this, but the task is non-trivial, because the naming > of the archived streams aren't sufficiently regular that they can > easily be mapped to the agenda :-( > > > Some chairs have started adding URLs to the appropriate stream in > > their submitted minutes - including the time offset into > the archived > > stream. Would it be possible to set up a wiki or something for the > > chairs to use to record that information, and then to use > that info to > > improve the link to the audio archive from the session proceedings? > > Hmm. Interesting idea. Setting up a wiki is trivial; how it should > be used for this is not completely obvious; it would need > some direction. > > Thoughts? > > > Best, > > Henrik > From stpeter@stpeter.im Sun Mar 21 16:47:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605C73A6857 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:47:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.128 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.128 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.341, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Zt90IKqIcMB for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51EB3A6B0B for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (unknown [130.129.25.205]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E812240D3A for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:47:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4BA6B017.3050003@stpeter.im> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:47:35 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050708070502040603020006" Subject: [Tools-discuss] TXT to XML? 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Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mz8MutfBFAaX for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [64.170.98.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8907A3A6857 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAAAE084F; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:53:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c1a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c1a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iuZ5A4VpTi0M; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.25.200] (unknown [130.129.25.200]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5CFE5E0815; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Alice Hagens In-Reply-To: <4BA6B017.3050003@stpeter.im> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:53:23 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4BA6B017.3050003@stpeter.im> To: Peter Saint-Andre X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] TXT to XML? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:52:59 -0000 Hi Peter, An alpha version of rfc2xml by Brian Adamson and Ian Chakeres is = available here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rfc2xml/ (from http://xml.resource.org/xml2rfcFAQ.html#anchor36) Haven't tried it myself. Best, Alice On Mar 21, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Has someone written a tool to convert text I-Ds and RFCs to the XML = format? >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From cabo@tzi.org Mon Mar 22 18:29:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9944E3A63D3 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:29:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.871 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.871 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QAc+st5o3fQU for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740F93A68D7 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:29:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2N1T8ug028098 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:29:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from dhcp-wireless-open-abg-24-141.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-wireless-open-abg-24-141.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.24.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5909DE946; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:29:08 +0100 (CET) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:29:04 -0700 To: Tools Team Discussion Message-Id: <6F8D75CD-699B-409B-B2D1-0295491DF323@tzi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: [Tools-discuss] Core Status Pages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:29:09 -0000 Is there a way to clean up this page: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/core/ There are way too many I-Ds with "core" in their names. OTOH, the "6lowapp" drafts are not listed. Any kind of manual override? Gruesse, Carsten From henrik@levkowetz.com Mon Mar 22 19:16:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09A23A6817 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:16:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.035 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.035 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.565, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zw0j8kGKsZW0 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F813A680C for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2001:df8:0:40:21b:63ff:fecd:4021] (port=53433 helo=dhcp-wireless-open-a-41-23.meeting.ietf.org) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NttfH-0005Pg-UM; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 03:16:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4BA82452.3070702@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:15:46 -0700 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann References: <6F8D75CD-699B-409B-B2D1-0295491DF323@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <6F8D75CD-699B-409B-B2D1-0295491DF323@tzi.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig15A278598E43468948AB71C9" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:df8:0:40:21b:63ff:fecd:4021 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: cabo@tzi.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:09:26 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Core Status Pages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:16:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig15A278598E43468948AB71C9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, On 2010-03-22 18:29 Carsten Bormann said the following: > Is there a way to clean up this page: >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/core/ >=20 > There are way too many I-Ds with "core" in their names. > OTOH, the "6lowapp" drafts are not listed. >=20 > Any kind of manual override? The 'related drafts' part of the status page is based on very simple heuristics, and the 'core' wg name unfortunately is fairly common in draft names, which creates the current situation. I've now narrowed the heuristics, so that instead of looking for related drafts for a WG, named 'draft-*-$wgname-*', I limit it to drafts where the third dash-separated component of the name matches the WG name. This reduces the 'related' drafts for core to only four -- unfortunately two of them are still unrelated. I can code in manual overrides, but I haven't thought of a way of doing it that won't bring repeated manual work... Adding '-6lowapp-' as an additional tag to look for for this WG is trivial, support for this is already build in. Done. The page should be updated for -6lowapp- drafts within about one hour. Best, Henrik --------------enig15A278598E43468948AB71C9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAkuoJG8ACgkQeVhrtTJkXCN9DgCdFO1O0Hu+PJ2NB/M1y5Doms25 HiAAoMvHfp4Ow9h1vQFfOxXHavlObu9U =6GzT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig15A278598E43468948AB71C9-- From spencer@wonderhamster.org Mon Mar 22 19:23:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B9D3A6859 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:23:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.432 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.432 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=2.431, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WSLGvqnTcOZ4 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A947F3A68AE for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from S73602b (dhcp-wireless-open-abg-28-253.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.28.253]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lbdxb-1NAdbL3Ysd-00lDvm; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:23:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "Henrik Levkowetz" , "Carsten Bormann" References: <6F8D75CD-699B-409B-B2D1-0295491DF323@tzi.org> <4BA82452.3070702@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:23:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX198QXcuHGG+UqZNvObBi1TYLHq7z2oyNz+n2Na niwjNcTXCatS7gPic5ejXwm3+yR+umUspl28Or6CMaDjygvZ50 g/A06sI05JTYoKvWxRLPKbEk0Vw93cDDMOb9o+vta0= Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Core Status Pages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:23:17 -0000 Henrik, I believe you have also fixed "martini" (there were several individual drafts in PWE3 that pattern-matched the new martini working group) - thank you! Spencer From cabo@tzi.org Mon Mar 22 19:29:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD67B3A685B for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:29:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.271 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.271 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=2.431, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_UNSUB22=0.948] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WhJ6W5+qIqLX for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9503A6859 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:29:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2N2TEqf009908; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 03:29:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from dhcp-wireless-open-abg-24-141.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-wireless-open-abg-24-141.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.24.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D17E94F; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 03:29:13 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <4BA82452.3070702@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:29:10 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6F8D75CD-699B-409B-B2D1-0295491DF323@tzi.org> <4BA82452.3070702@levkowetz.com> To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Core Status Pages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:29:12 -0000 On Mar 22, 2010, at 19:15, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > repeated manual work The dream solution would be to enable the chairs to "click away" false = positives. (Or, more simply, a way to edit a "false positive" list.) That would indeed be repeated manual work, but not for you. Thanks for putting in 6lowapp! Gruesse, Carsten From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Mar 23 17:45:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02703A6876 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:45:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.469 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.469 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M+GkanUNpywU for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC293A67F2 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.29.229] (port=52427 helo=dhcp-wireless-open-abg-29-229.meeting.ietf.org) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NuEjT-0004r7-Gr; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:46:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4BA960C8.1090509@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:46:00 -0700 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Spencer Dawkins References: <6F8D75CD-699B-409B-B2D1-0295491DF323@tzi.org> <4BA82452.3070702@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 130.129.29.229 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: spencer@wonderhamster.org, cabo@tzi.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:09:26 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Carsten Bormann , Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Core Status Pages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:45:53 -0000 Hi Spencer On 2010-03-22 19:23 Spencer Dawkins said the following: > Henrik, >=20 > I believe you have also fixed "martini" (there were several individual = > drafts in PWE3 that pattern-matched the new martini working group) - th= ank=20 > you! Yes, the current pattern is being applied for all WGs, so there should be= improvements in some other places too. Best, Henrik From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Mar 23 17:48:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C953C3A6969 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:48:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, SARE_UNSUB22=0.948, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2JtiCnqjyGiZ for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (shiraz.levkowetz.com [77.72.230.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84963A67F2 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54679 helo=dhcp-wireless-open-abg-29-229.meeting.ietf.org) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NuElt-0003mo-Bi; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:48:34 +0100 Message-ID: <4BA96153.1050807@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:48:19 -0700 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann References: <6F8D75CD-699B-409B-B2D1-0295491DF323@tzi.org> <4BA82452.3070702@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig72203737F33D121B40E5DB9F" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: cabo@tzi.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Core Status Pages X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:48:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig72203737F33D121B40E5DB9F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, On 2010-03-22 19:29 Carsten Bormann said the following: > On Mar 22, 2010, at 19:15, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >=20 >> repeated manual work >=20 > The dream solution would be to enable the chairs to "click away" false = positives. > (Or, more simply, a way to edit a "false positive" list.) > That would indeed be repeated manual work, but not for you. Mmm. Yes. Not a 5-minute fix, thought. I'll think about this some more= =2E > Thanks for putting in 6lowapp! You're welcome! Best, Henrik --------------enig72203737F33D121B40E5DB9F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAkupYV8ACgkQeVhrtTJkXCNAhACglH76RFTnuXtsvSDv7dHc5rhW /hMAoMdAVRRE0tPkgh1zt+rrlB032/ek =kYsJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig72203737F33D121B40E5DB9F-- From jhutz@cmu.edu Thu Mar 25 10:30:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00603A6CAF for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:30:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.252 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.252 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.217, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Yo3+1c5oBNb for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.srv.cs.cmu.edu (SMTP03.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.217.198]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA363A6B29 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-wireless-open-abg-24-255.meeting.ietf.org (SIRIUS.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.216.216]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp03.srv.cs.cmu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o2PHKmmS021672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:20:47 -0700 From: Jeffrey Hutzelman To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: <7F44C1AB60A4045F31ED8647@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Scanned-By: mimedefang-cmuscs on 128.2.217.198 Cc: jhutz@cmu.edu Subject: [Tools-discuss] WG document mismatch X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:30:05 -0000 If I use to search for documents belonging to the Kerberos working group (krb-wg), the result set includes draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 and draft-lha-des-die-die-die-02, both of which were added as WG documents yesterday, at my request. However, if I look at , only the latter document appears. Any ideas why? -- Jeff From henrik@levkowetz.com Thu Mar 25 10:32:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D36E3A6DFD for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:32:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -98.87 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.87 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yi77dhxeo8FM for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D4D3A6892 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2001:df8:0:40:21b:63ff:fecd:4021] (port=52348 helo=dhcp-wireless-open-a-41-23.meeting.ietf.org) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nuqnm-0006vh-Vo; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:25:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4BAB9C6B.8020203@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:24:59 -0700 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =JeffH References: <4B993788.1090307@KingsMountain.com> In-Reply-To: <4B993788.1090307@KingsMountain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:df8:0:40:21b:63ff:fecd:4021 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: Jeff.Hodges@KingsMountain.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:09:26 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: IETF Tools List Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Manual Post Requested for draft-ietf-httpbis-security-properties-05 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:32:55 -0000 Hi Jeff, On 2010-03-11 10:33 =JeffH said the following: ... > Also, perhaps it would be good if idnits output one of its "(is this > intentional?)" warnings or comments when it encounters an I-D with a > element fairly different than the current date at the time of invocation ? This is included in the just released v2.12.02. Best, Henrik From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Wed Mar 24 23:53:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6A23A6CB1 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:53:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.869 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.869 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mv0cQ6tfxrn0 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97683A6901 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:53:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1269500050; x=1301036050; h=message-id:x-mailer:date:to:from:subject:content-type: x-random-sig-tag:x-ironport-av; z=Message-Id:=0D=0A=20|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20f or=20Mac=20OS=20X|Date:=20Wed,=2024=20Mar=202010=2019:28: 25=20-0700|To:=20tools-discuss@ietf.org|From:=20Randall =20Gellens=20|Subject:=20idnits=20c omplaint:=20boilerplate=20complaints=20hard=20to=20track =20down|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-asc ii"=20=3B=20format=3D"flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28 |X-IronPort-AV:=20E=3DMcAfee=3Bi=3D"5400,1158,5930"=3B=20 a=3D"37161864"; bh=ykFTleZEwbYvT+gKX5y1K6Vw5npZ+IzrkTQS5ieeDQk=; b=qSNNAVQpxIVmwVe1dSrH44B9/8hWsdz+u44GX+VMt4c5HfGP7ODSnGVc E1/kJhn1IaKMw15yyROuJrobx2E7onjDBRNjpyj72x8462doF4/2S6C9o xjtcsnhmtm2R26jqJjFHSVVTBKd4qqnH0m0uuAekiWBwUpu7OqlY9KMrl A=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,5930"; a="37161864" Received: from ironmsg01-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.15]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2010 23:54:09 -0700 Received: from myvpn-r-441.ras.qualcomm.com (HELO dhcp-wireless-open-abg-25-196.meeting.ietf.org) ([10.64.1.185]) by ironmsg01-r.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2010 19:32:23 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:28:25 -0700 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:01:31 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] idnits complaint: boilerplate complaints hard to track down X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:53:50 -0000 When idnits complains about boilerplate missing or partially found, it should include the text possibilities that will make it happy, or URLs to them. Instead, it points to a PDF of the legal policy, which itself doesn't contain the exact boilerplate text that needs to be included. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Democracy is a form of government that substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few. --G. B. Shaw From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed Mar 31 08:47:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134673A6A0C for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:47:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.17 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.17 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7UfVsO3kkhWk for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357FB3A69B3 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:58843 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nx09N-00026g-Tq; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:48:14 +0200 Message-ID: <4BB36EBD.2040308@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:48:13 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Gellens References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rg+ietf@qualcomm.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:09:26 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits complaint: boilerplate complaints hard to track down X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:47:49 -0000 Hi Randall, On 2010-03-25 03:28 Randall Gellens said: > When idnits complains about boilerplate missing or partially found, > it should include the text possibilities that will make it happy, or > URLs to them. Instead, it points to a PDF of the legal policy, which > itself doesn't contain the exact boilerplate text that needs to be > included. If you use the --verbose switch (or checkbox for the web service) it does indeed say exactly which text it expects. I also believe that if you don't use the verbose mode and get errors, it will suggest that you use the verbose mode to get more information... Henrik From ietfdbh@comcast.net Wed Mar 31 10:27:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DF83A6AF2 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:27:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.131 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.131 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TVvgncuJWteE for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5963A6C08 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zmUH1d00F0SCNGk54tNQCS; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:22:24 +0000 Received: from Harrington73653 ([67.189.235.106]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ztNQ1d0042JQnJT3VtNQMr; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:22:24 +0000 From: "David Harrington" To: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:22:23 -0400 Message-ID: <02d101cad0f6$ba1f8300$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcrQ9ljJYYBqwTApQYizs7r5EGDZGg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: [Tools-discuss] idnits: example IPv6 address warnings X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:27:31 -0000 Hi, In draft-ietf-behave-address-format-05, there are rfc3849-compliant example IPv6 addresses. The addresses get split across lines, and then idnits considers them not compliant as rfc3849-compliant example addresses. I recommend that idnits check to see if the "invalid" IPv6 address was caused by a split across lines. I consider this a low priority problem, but one that should get addressed at some point, so editors and reviewers don't waste time resolving these inaccurate warnings. Thanks, David Harrington dbharrington@comcast.net ietfdbh@comcast.net dharrington@huawei.com From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Wed Mar 31 13:31:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B633A695D for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:31:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.046, BAYES_40=-0.185, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0cpmDAncyKuK for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABEC3A6A92 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:31:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1270067539; x=1301603539; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:cc:content-type:x-random-sig-tag; z=Message-Id:=20 |In-Reply-To:=20<4BB36EBD.2040308@levkowetz.com> |References:=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<4BB36EBD.2040 308@levkowetz.com>|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20 X|Date:=20Wed,=2031=20Mar=202010=2013:32:14=20-0700|To: =20Henrik=20Levkowetz=20|From:=20Ra ndall=20Gellens=20|Subject:=20Re: =20[Tools-discuss]=20idnits=20complaint:=20boilerplate=20 complaints=0D=0A=20hard=20=20to=09track=20down|Cc:=20,=20Randall=20Gellens=20|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-a scii"=20=3B=20format=3D"flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b2 8; bh=+P6bAkPvoGMwSm+PKt4Nvcc1pwaxJE1ZmBkaIgwJi2w=; b=u2NmuzFp1WjMLf/qaogQS5efl5YoIz/wlSL/EP3b9s8ZcHKqyEey0P5l OO4BbZUy+x75TNkHRsvenevcsE9xCxQdx0gspkWTlQc+fTGdeXLg15Ili 04G3frk7iHTp8ViL6QDsCffS/IB6rV2oxnND/VA7U1QJOW8n5gqEfvjCF M=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,5937"; a="37630874" Received: from ironmsg01-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.15]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 31 Mar 2010 13:32:18 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,343,1267430400"; d="scan'208";a="3576471" Received: from myvpn-r-802.ras.qualcomm.com (HELO [192.168.1.13]) ([10.64.3.34]) by ironmsg01-r.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 31 Mar 2010 13:32:17 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4BB36EBD.2040308@levkowetz.com> References: <4BB36EBD.2040308@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:32:14 -0700 To: Henrik Levkowetz From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: Randall Gellens , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits complaint: boilerplate complaints hard to track down X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:31:49 -0000 Hi Henrik, Sorry for not being more clear. I was using verbose mode, but it was still difficult to find the exact boilerplate text, since I needed the "may contain" version. At 5:48 PM +0200 3/31/10, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Randall, > > On 2010-03-25 03:28 Randall Gellens said: >> When idnits complains about boilerplate missing or partially found, >> it should include the text possibilities that will make it happy, or >> URLs to them. Instead, it points to a PDF of the legal policy, which >> itself doesn't contain the exact boilerplate text that needs to be >> included. > > If you use the --verbose switch (or checkbox for the web service) it > does indeed say exactly which text it expects. I also believe that if > you don't use the verbose mode and get errors, it will suggest that > you use the verbose mode to get more information... > > > Henrik -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Substitute "damn" every time you're inclined to write "very"; your editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it should be. --Mark Twain