From nobody Fri Jan 8 11:22:01 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FDF3A11FF for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 11:22:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AMRrBo5V9qmz for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 11:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ot1-x333.google.com (mail-ot1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30ADC3A11FD for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 11:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-x333.google.com with SMTP id o11so10753321ote.4 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:21:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+QfxhEGR5j+ZHZYe30houFapCxSyJrZ1BhQ8WwxQMmo=; b=bGnVRb0fjGS5W6GcaQH+W/mrQzIW+by0oNzgmZ4wxsTP7mvFXMpmmS3N2kubD8OHl1 S2jTNX+aKMHYnsT+eA6CTBYgNj1cBUIGQGq8RmvKNqgJZVYUpIyIO6yfbkc3IomiQSBf VF5sYk69nXox1/eZa5BYjWI9gQvY2m970Eqg4ZekD8JfjvbNPw5DkBe7yVSIs7ESEj9h OYUFOgSa915n4JnMvlsw835lfJq1NbatSEJz2V0irO+unDriCL6T7j9t7nexcSO/2Qc5 bsJT/32tyFiTV5bzM26gzKLcltEUdcHhB/KLXJ3s15QYVRjVhgYtAJex06aGaVu9axeL HB3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+QfxhEGR5j+ZHZYe30houFapCxSyJrZ1BhQ8WwxQMmo=; b=csW6iEf2BN1J5OF3zEdLR3KlsMWoV9myEEz8WH68QunXTVJzQX75wJt0lOC+Z5fwfM Y6Ags54aDrZLUz09jvOWj7l8K2HJfu3r0fCvcqPXla/W6381zRV9DPFXUPM4kBBKa6gK zf/oQrEzLbsYyYju1hfT55K60QrNJW+xYoXMwKAGrxaZyX0SxD4RWSy7Px5vcIIXlEJk IA3SIjdk1c87JlRFWDn4Uog4WMQhoM5EN4gCnHkqRcf5Uka528a/9/+FQkoVrSPl9bZg fcjkCmJJj0DF2q9TZp9E3EKiKV+ODpno/2FBzL5k3ymNdabd4rq6hwjOfsrQ/QWms7IW KuiA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533utLuDErVXRq/g/hj+mPVu4iPn8VzVQ5YJK1GA3Sxs2SbnKl6Q N/j4lV3XN775X9FAq0btNMwPyJprAgf5yMar36Hmcr/MRUs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzWLLZgrHues7Bq6wvCxtc8WeEwr3VgNcZYqqXdSteW7iJGbc69YKor0zCwSEzypi+8QpaNECjI6ZQj7xghi3w= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:3ef6:: with SMTP id b109mr3693635otc.288.1610133717972; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:21:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tim Wicinski Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:21:47 -0500 Message-ID: To: Tools Team Discussion Cc: Todd Herr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004cfcd505b86878af" Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Update to DMARC issue tracker workflow? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 19:22:00 -0000 --0000000000004cfcd505b86878af Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi We're looking to change the ticket workflow for the dmarc project in tracker. Based on the documentation at https://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracWorkflow#AdditionalTicketWorkflows we believe this requires an update to the trac.ini file associated with the dmarc project. Based on our reading of the documentation, can we change the [ticket-workflow] section of the trac.ini file, with the current contents of that section removed and replaced with the contents of the opensource-workflow.ini template included with the source tree and found online here - https://trac.edgewall.org/browser/branches/1.4-stable/contrib/workflow/opensource-workflow.ini thanks tim --0000000000004cfcd505b86878af Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Based on the documentation at=C2=A0https://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracWorkflow#AdditionalTic= ketWorkflows=C2=A0we=C2=A0believe this requires an update to the trac.i= ni file associated with the dmarc project.

Based o= n our reading of the documentation, can we change the [ticket-workflow] sec= tion of the trac.ini file, with the current contents of that section remove= d and replaced with the contents of the opensource-workflow.ini=C2=A0templa= te included with the source tree and found online here -=C2=A0https://trac.edgewall.org/browser/bran= ches/1.4-stable/contrib/workflow/opensource-workflow.ini

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--0000000000004cfcd505b86878af-- From nobody Fri Jan 8 12:14:48 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0C63A1281 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:14:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.171 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.171 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.262, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NY6CB1vQmoyL for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 652BC3A127F for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA73C38B35C; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:14:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.86.10] (173-8-133-94-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.133.94]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A77FF38AEA1; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:14:41 -0800 (PST) To: Tim Wicinski , Tools Team Discussion Cc: Todd Herr References: From: Glen Organization: AMS Message-ID: <7b0c7af6-39e6-2767-eb14-474f4962f6ff@amsl.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:14:41 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Update to DMARC issue tracker workflow? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 20:14:47 -0000 On 1/8/2021 11:21, Tim Wicinski wrote: > Based on our reading of the documentation, can we change the > [ticket-workflow] section of the trac.ini file, with the current > contents of that section removed and replaced with the contents of the > opensource-workflow.ini template included with the source tree and found > online here - > https://trac.edgewall.org/browser/branches/1.4-stable/contrib/workflow/opensource-workflow.ini > Hi Tim - This is done. As a point of order, the Trac setup on the IETF is highly customized, and strongly linked to the Datatracker. As a result, I cannot guarantee that these changes will work properly (or at all), nor that they will "stick" (and not at some point be overwritten by an automated custom process I don't know about.) But I've updated the file, so give it a shot and let me know (at ietf-action@ietf.org please) if there are any problems. All - Just a reminder that operational change requests should be directed to ietf-action@ietf.org . I sometimes see messages on this list, but not always. To reach the IT team and get things done, ietf-action is the address to contact. Thanks! 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[166.182.82.99]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o30sm4988524qtd.24.2021.01.08.12.18.28 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Jan 2021 12:18:28 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: tjw ietf Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 15:18:27 -0500 Message-Id: References: <7b0c7af6-39e6-2767-eb14-474f4962f6ff@amsl.com> Cc: Tools Team Discussion , Todd Herr In-Reply-To: <7b0c7af6-39e6-2767-eb14-474f4962f6ff@amsl.com> To: Glen X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18C66) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Update to DMARC issue tracker workflow? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 20:18:32 -0000 Thanks Glen we=E2=80=99ll try them out=20 Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list? Tim Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2021, at 15:14, Glen wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 1/8/2021 11:21, Tim Wicinski wrote: >> Based on our reading of the documentation, can we change the [ticket-work= flow] section of the trac.ini file, with the current contents of that sectio= n removed and replaced with the contents of the opensource-workflow.ini temp= late included with the source tree and found online here - https://trac.edge= wall.org/browser/branches/1.4-stable/contrib/workflow/opensource-workflow.in= i >=20 > Hi Tim - >=20 > This is done. As a point of order, the Trac setup on the IETF is highly c= ustomized, and strongly linked to the Datatracker. As a result, I cannot gu= arantee that these changes will work properly (or at all), nor that they wil= l "stick" (and not at some point be overwritten by an automated custom proce= ss I don't know about.) But I've updated the file, so give it a shot and le= t me know (at ietf-action@ietf.org please) if there are any problems. >=20 > All - >=20 > Just a reminder that operational change requests should be directed to iet= f-action@ietf.org . I sometimes see messages on this list, but not always. = To reach the IT team and get things done, ietf-action is the address to con= tact. >=20 > Thanks! > Glen > -- > Glen Barney > IT Director > AMS (IETF Secretariat) >=20 From nobody Fri Jan 8 12:45:22 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AAE3A12B1 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:45:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.171 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.171 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.262, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v3Tj7W0UcuRl for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B8553A12AE for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67A6C38B35C; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.86.10] (173-8-133-94-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.133.94]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D67C38AE8F; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:45:17 -0800 (PST) To: tjw ietf Cc: Tools Team Discussion , Todd Herr References: <7b0c7af6-39e6-2767-eb14-474f4962f6ff@amsl.com> From: Glen Organization: AMS Message-ID: <15ca8e41-66e5-e808-e891-9eb8e775fbe8@amsl.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:45:16 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Update to DMARC issue tracker workflow? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 20:45:22 -0000 On 1/8/2021 12:18, tjw ietf wrote: > Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list? Well, I'm not sure what you mean, and it's not my list, but my personal opinion is that it probably does need some updating. Right now it says: > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org which is long even by my own very-long-winded-email standards. :-) I could see tightening it up a little, perhaps to something like: --snip-- Tools-discuss mailing list - tools-discuss@ietf.org This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. * Report Datatracker bugs to: datatracker-project@ietf.org * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org Unsubscribe at: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --snip-- but that is up to Russ and Robert, the list owners, so they should weigh in on your question. 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[24.5.53.184]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 138sm15196403wma.41.2021.01.08.17.20.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Jan 2021 17:20:57 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Hinden Message-Id: <4B588880-F7C5-463B-B947-E05AE56624D8@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B5EFF39E-CD34-4C97-97A0-DEC98B61025F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 17:20:53 -0800 In-Reply-To: <15ca8e41-66e5-e808-e891-9eb8e775fbe8@amsl.com> Cc: Bob Hinden , tjw ietf , Todd Herr , Tools Team Discussion To: Glen Barney References: <7b0c7af6-39e6-2767-eb14-474f4962f6ff@amsl.com> <15ca8e41-66e5-e808-e891-9eb8e775fbe8@amsl.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Update to DMARC issue tracker workflow? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:21:03 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B5EFF39E-CD34-4C97-97A0-DEC98B61025F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Glen, > On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Glen wrote: >=20 > On 1/8/2021 12:18, tjw ietf wrote: >> Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list? >=20 > Well, I'm not sure what you mean, and it's not my list, but my = personal opinion is that it probably does need some updating. Right now = it says: >=20 >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 > which is long even by my own very-long-winded-email standards. :-) >=20 > I could see tightening it up a little, perhaps to something like: >=20 > --snip-- >=20 > Tools-discuss mailing list - tools-discuss@ietf.org > This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. > * Report Datatracker bugs to: datatracker-project@ietf.org > * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org > * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org > Unsubscribe at: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss I like that! 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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 04:43:34 -0000 --00000000000080dfc505b8705004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I agree with Bob, especially since I search my mail to 'tools' and start from there. tim On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 8:20 PM Bob Hinden wrote: > Glen, > > > On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Glen wrote: > > > > On 1/8/2021 12:18, tjw ietf wrote: > >> Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list? > > > > Well, I'm not sure what you mean, and it's not my list, but my personal > opinion is that it probably does need some updating. Right now it says: > > > >> Tools-discuss mailing list > >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > > > which is long even by my own very-long-winded-email standards. :-) > > > > I could see tightening it up a little, perhaps to something like: > > > > --snip-- > > > > Tools-discuss mailing list - tools-discuss@ietf.org > > This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. > > * Report Datatracker bugs to: datatracker-project@ietf.org > > * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org > > Unsubscribe at: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > I like that! > > Bob > > > --00000000000080dfc505b8705004 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree with Bob, especially=C2=A0since I search=C2=A0my mail to 'to= ols' and start from there.

tim

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 8:20 PM Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
Glen,

> On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Glen <glen@amsl.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/8/2021 12:18, tjw ietf wrote:
>> Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list?
>
> Well, I'm not sure what you mean, and it's not my list, but my= personal opinion is that it probably does need some updating.=C2=A0 Right = now it says:
>
>> Tools-discuss mailing list
>> Tools-= discuss@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/to= ols-discuss
>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.or= g
>> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
>> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org
>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at
>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues
>> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org
>
> which is long even by my own very-long-winded-email standards.=C2=A0 := -)
>
> I could see tightening it up a little, perhaps to something like:
>
> --snip--
>
> Tools-discuss mailing list - tools-discuss@ietf.org
> This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. > * Report Datatracker bugs to: datatracker-project@ietf.org
> * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org
> * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org
> Unsubscribe at: https://www.ietf.org/mailman= /listinfo/tools-discuss

I like that!

Bob


--00000000000080dfc505b8705004-- From nobody Sun Jan 10 09:55:01 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA373A1176 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:55:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.078 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.078 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72j7_FQgtCAE for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:54:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0ECCD3A1175 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from unformal.localdomain ([47.186.1.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 10AHsrTJ092785 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:54:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1610301294; bh=GGg5TR5fqIlfUDudIUCByUEKkiLT7vNqrADwCioDf6A=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=EuZWJ8vbDDeqq/f0VzM0WV6Jp0TXUypa2fODlc739i3CcTwThPZcP+Lb0falA8XIe n17lcJgwFODOR+TTMlj0unwmgftLbOfXyfW6S6K1V+ESC79TcIlifGbF6tG525fKx0 cA+iWvSsZL3xfLfgXhMlhminlyMUncL19edor1OE= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.1.92] claimed to be unformal.localdomain To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <7b0c7af6-39e6-2767-eb14-474f4962f6ff@amsl.com> <15ca8e41-66e5-e808-e891-9eb8e775fbe8@amsl.com> <4B588880-F7C5-463B-B947-E05AE56624D8@gmail.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <5740bb23-c4d6-9da9-e563-d5ad2fd36f0d@nostrum.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:54:48 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B588880-F7C5-463B-B947-E05AE56624D8@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------01CEFBFD08F2BCB271A07C0D" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Tools-discuss footer content X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 17:55:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------01CEFBFD08F2BCB271A07C0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've made a change similar to what's suggested. We can incrementally improve it as we move forward. RjS On 1/8/21 7:20 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > Glen, > >> On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Glen wrote: >> >> On 1/8/2021 12:18, tjw ietf wrote: >>> Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list? >> Well, I'm not sure what you mean, and it's not my list, but my personal opinion is that it probably does need some updating. Right now it says: >> >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >>> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >>> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >> which is long even by my own very-long-winded-email standards. :-) >> >> I could see tightening it up a little, perhaps to something like: >> >> --snip-- >> >> Tools-discuss mailing list - tools-discuss@ietf.org >> This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. >> * Report Datatracker bugs to: datatracker-project@ietf.org >> * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org >> * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org >> Unsubscribe at: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > I like that! > > Bob > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --------------01CEFBFD08F2BCB271A07C0D Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I've made a change similar to what's suggested. We can incrementally improve it as we move forward.

RjS

On 1/8/21 7:20 PM, Bob Hinden wrote:
Glen,


On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Glen <glen@amsl.com> wrote:

On 1/8/2021 12:18, tjw ietf wrote:

Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list?

Well, I'm not sure what you mean, and it's not my list, but my personal opinion is that it probably does need some updating.  Right now it says:


Tools-discuss mailing list
Tools-discuss@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss
Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org
bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org
Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at
http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues
or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org

which is long even by my own very-long-winded-email standards.  :-)

I could see tightening it up a little, perhaps to something like:

--snip--

Tools-discuss mailing list - tools-discuss@ietf.org
This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports.
* Report Datatracker bugs to: datatracker-project@ietf.org
* Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org
* Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org
Unsubscribe at: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss

I like that!

Bob




___________________________________________________________
Tools-discuss mailing list
Tools-discuss@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss

Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org
bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org

Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at
http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues
or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org
--------------01CEFBFD08F2BCB271A07C0D-- From nobody Sun Jan 10 09:56:27 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306983A1176 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:56:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.34 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.34 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.262, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5wQpA8RT1BxI for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3319A3A1174 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from unformal.localdomain ([47.186.1.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 10AHuMMc093411 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:56:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1610301383; bh=IJETLKuuom3V9ORAbntH7AQg/YT63BWxle89KtX3UFM=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=rxgQA8Tv+yRh49E5tYQ1OHVgYc6nwA0CLamCW03iTbpRr1MpI6PYzWKcKVW44p3yy ZVAFYxzgZNSJGsvLfJ2jOfMUgLeWEITXiQq8ildzPbIUUQyVm6xS3G9zPqboENWtz/ I4iLjFa1bwHdFGpDUAl/iUl7tBk1tSHzZQRmdagU= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.1.92] claimed to be unformal.localdomain To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <7b0c7af6-39e6-2767-eb14-474f4962f6ff@amsl.com> <15ca8e41-66e5-e808-e891-9eb8e775fbe8@amsl.com> <4B588880-F7C5-463B-B947-E05AE56624D8@gmail.com> <5740bb23-c4d6-9da9-e563-d5ad2fd36f0d@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <89eb1194-8e03-9ace-6a5c-e87cf265381e@nostrum.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:56:17 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5740bb23-c4d6-9da9-e563-d5ad2fd36f0d@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DFA329D03C62AB1F14C3C36E" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools-discuss footer content X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 17:56:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DFA329D03C62AB1F14C3C36E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sigh - no, I didn't make the change _stick_ yet. Mailman is such a wonderful thing. I lost a race on form lifetime expiration. Will reapply. RjS On 1/10/21 11:54 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > > I've made a change similar to what's suggested. We can incrementally > improve it as we move forward. > > RjS > > On 1/8/21 7:20 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >> Glen, >> >>> On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Glen wrote: >>> >>> On 1/8/2021 12:18, tjw ietf wrote: >>>> Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list? >>> Well, I'm not sure what you mean, and it's not my list, but my personal opinion is that it probably does need some updating. Right now it says: >>> >>>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >>>> bugs athttp://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>>> or send email todatatracker-project@ietf.org >>>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >>>> or send email towebmaster@tools.ietf.org >>> which is long even by my own very-long-winded-email standards. :-) >>> >>> I could see tightening it up a little, perhaps to something like: >>> >>> --snip-- >>> >>> Tools-discuss mailing list -tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. >>> * Report Datatracker bugs to:datatracker-project@ietf.org >>> * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to:webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>> * Report all other bugs or issues to:ietf-action@ietf.org >>> Unsubscribe at:https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> I like that! >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs athttp://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email todatatracker-project@ietf.org >> >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email towebmaster@tools.ietf.org > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --------------DFA329D03C62AB1F14C3C36E Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Sigh - no, I didn't make the change _stick_ yet. Mailman is such a wonderful thing. I lost a race on form lifetime expiration. Will reapply.

RjS

On 1/10/21 11:54 AM, Robert Sparks wrote:

I've made a change similar to what's suggested. We can incrementally improve it as we move forward.

RjS

On 1/8/21 7:20 PM, Bob Hinden wrote:
Glen,


On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Glen <glen@amsl.com> wrote:

On 1/8/2021 12:18, tjw ietf wrote:

Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list?

Well, I'm not sure what you mean, and it's not my list, but my personal opinion is that it probably does need some updating.  Right now it says:


Tools-discuss mailing list
Tools-discuss@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss
Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org
bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org
Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at
http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues
or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org

which is long even by my own very-long-winded-email standards.  :-)

I could see tightening it up a little, perhaps to something like:

--snip--

Tools-discuss mailing list - tools-discuss@ietf.org
This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports.
* Report Datatracker bugs to: datatracker-project@ietf.org
* Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org
* Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org
Unsubscribe at: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss

I like that!

Bob




___________________________________________________________
Tools-discuss mailing list
Tools-discuss@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss

Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org
bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org

Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at
http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues
or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org


___________________________________________________________
Tools-discuss mailing list
Tools-discuss@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss

Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org
bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org

Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at
http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues
or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org
--------------DFA329D03C62AB1F14C3C36E-- From nobody Sun Jan 10 09:59:20 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6766D3A117C for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:59:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.34 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.34 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.262, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RfbgCVRPtp0e for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:59:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF7913A117B for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:59:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from unformal.localdomain ([47.186.1.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 10AHxFWo094436 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:59:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1610301556; bh=oiPHllYJ7X2Rn6J6LHK2NNNkrTIH6qAfQigQrQsAw6M=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=KqQ3MreOPhf6EUpy7Xn9IsSof6u3ty38fPO0VGwFElStjvvZqGWro9ZuQo5MMV0+l oc0z6CLyNqGd7WBx1qlUjLRhnvik02XqtZb/wsGF0iHDvi2FBHrg5/VLX4MIkGvRro Lrpwnp2WZpL7gAICJO2to6oHcYamPnNRAIlzLBaw= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.1.92] claimed to be unformal.localdomain To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <7b0c7af6-39e6-2767-eb14-474f4962f6ff@amsl.com> <15ca8e41-66e5-e808-e891-9eb8e775fbe8@amsl.com> <4B588880-F7C5-463B-B947-E05AE56624D8@gmail.com> <5740bb23-c4d6-9da9-e563-d5ad2fd36f0d@nostrum.com> <89eb1194-8e03-9ace-6a5c-e87cf265381e@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <227c4ef7-938f-bd29-c56a-4fa15e425d19@nostrum.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:59:10 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <89eb1194-8e03-9ace-6a5c-e87cf265381e@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------5BF8C8904D6C23A4B65648F8" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools-discuss footer content X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 17:59:19 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5BF8C8904D6C23A4B65648F8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This might be better. On 1/10/21 11:56 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > > Sigh - no, I didn't make the change _stick_ yet. Mailman is such a > wonderful thing. I lost a race on form lifetime expiration. Will reapply. > > RjS > > On 1/10/21 11:54 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> I've made a change similar to what's suggested. We can incrementally >> improve it as we move forward. >> >> RjS >> >> On 1/8/21 7:20 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >>> Glen, >>> >>>> On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Glen wrote: >>>> >>>> On 1/8/2021 12:18, tjw ietf wrote: >>>>> Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list? >>>> Well, I'm not sure what you mean, and it's not my list, but my personal opinion is that it probably does need some updating. Right now it says: >>>> >>>>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>>>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>>>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >>>>> bugs athttp://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>>>> or send email todatatracker-project@ietf.org >>>>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >>>>> or send email towebmaster@tools.ietf.org >>>> which is long even by my own very-long-winded-email standards. :-) >>>> >>>> I could see tightening it up a little, perhaps to something like: >>>> >>>> --snip-- >>>> >>>> Tools-discuss mailing list -tools-discuss@ietf.org >>>> This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. >>>> * Report Datatracker bugs to:datatracker-project@ietf.org >>>> * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to:webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>>> * Report all other bugs or issues to:ietf-action@ietf.org >>>> Unsubscribe at:https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> I like that! >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------5BF8C8904D6C23A4B65648F8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This might be better.

On 1/10/21 11:56 AM, Robert Sparks wrote:

Sigh - no, I didn't make the change _stick_ yet. Mailman is such a wonderful thing. I lost a race on form lifetime expiration. Will reapply.

RjS

On 1/10/21 11:54 AM, Robert Sparks wrote:

I've made a change similar to what's suggested. We can incrementally improve it as we move forward.

RjS

On 1/8/21 7:20 PM, Bob Hinden wrote:
Glen,


On Jan 8, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Glen <glen@amsl.com> wrote:

On 1/8/2021 12:18, tjw ietf wrote:

Should we change the footer for the tools-discuss list?

Well, I'm not sure what you mean, and it's not my list, but my personal opinion is that it probably does need some updating.  Right now it says:


Tools-discuss mailing list
Tools-discuss@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss
Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org
bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org
Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at
http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues
or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org

which is long even by my own very-long-winded-email standards.  :-)

I could see tightening it up a little, perhaps to something like:

--snip--

Tools-discuss mailing list - tools-discuss@ietf.org
This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports.
* Report Datatracker bugs to: datatracker-project@ietf.org
* Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org
* Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org
Unsubscribe at: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss

I like that!

Bob


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[24.5.53.184]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c81sm19822206wmd.6.2021.01.10.10.07.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Jan 2021 10:07:53 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Hinden Message-Id: <5B3B3585-834D-4F4C-90FD-384207C2EBBE@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_31712063-0619-43B7-90FA-242E6CF59083"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 10:07:49 -0800 In-Reply-To: <227c4ef7-938f-bd29-c56a-4fa15e425d19@nostrum.com> Cc: Bob Hinden , tools-discuss@ietf.org To: Robert Sparks References: <7b0c7af6-39e6-2767-eb14-474f4962f6ff@amsl.com> <15ca8e41-66e5-e808-e891-9eb8e775fbe8@amsl.com> <4B588880-F7C5-463B-B947-E05AE56624D8@gmail.com> <5740bb23-c4d6-9da9-e563-d5ad2fd36f0d@nostrum.com> <89eb1194-8e03-9ace-6a5c-e87cf265381e@nostrum.com> <227c4ef7-938f-bd29-c56a-4fa15e425d19@nostrum.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools-discuss footer content X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:07:58 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_31712063-0619-43B7-90FA-242E6CF59083 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jan 10, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 > This might be better. =E2=80=A6.. > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list - Tools-discuss@ietf.org > This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. > * Report datatracker and mailarchive bugs to: = datatracker-project@ietf.org > * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org > * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org > List info (including how to Unsubscribe): = https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss Thanks, Looks good. Bob --Apple-Mail=_31712063-0619-43B7-90FA-242E6CF59083 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEm0rfRsOCoyamPexGrut0EXfnu6gFAl/7QnUACgkQrut0EXfn u6i1xwf+PrZjhOetJkMkLgSrlOOtWRpek8+Tgio1cGpIXTpBSIPmckGEiDqkN5rG TqLbBv9SkkGwzK4zZWzrP18ZosFrWGIv7Eo2KhShvw0pc1LUBcU9wJTwweVc5MuU s0IyA5dqmjSIT453J8iu/ubKCkmjg+XPCSC+yRHYasiukI7nbver8lX6hk8rkm/1 /h9bz3ngTodX1UOhzz4pb343DflNLOqw3IcRXjwJ3co9t+euLPOOgq7ADum04cCc m4nkFbvuQ2Rn2AyIG9ju2RWwU+AA7pIh1QFeU7RTe2T2O+7ueu6/a9N1LOS73ogR S5a3QYX6lgnb/Fe/QcNYNQgUxjbNbg== =q9RK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_31712063-0619-43B7-90FA-242E6CF59083-- From nobody Sun Jan 10 11:13:48 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDD83A11D5 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:13:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.918 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.918 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XQmIm0uhmmaw for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:13:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04AA13A11D3 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:13:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dc939.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.201.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DDRMT2fstzyRB; Sun, 10 Jan 2021 20:13:41 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <227c4ef7-938f-bd29-c56a-4fa15e425d19@nostrum.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 20:13:40 +0100 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 631998820.844202-24b5befb6a02ed022cf9271912a3cc41 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <7b0c7af6-39e6-2767-eb14-474f4962f6ff@amsl.com> <15ca8e41-66e5-e808-e891-9eb8e775fbe8@amsl.com> <4B588880-F7C5-463B-B947-E05AE56624D8@gmail.com> <5740bb23-c4d6-9da9-e563-d5ad2fd36f0d@nostrum.com> <89eb1194-8e03-9ace-6a5c-e87cf265381e@nostrum.com> <227c4ef7-938f-bd29-c56a-4fa15e425d19@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools-discuss footer content X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:13:47 -0000 On 2021-01-10, at 18:59, Robert Sparks wrote: >=20 >> Sigh - no, I didn't make the change _stick_ yet. Mailman is such a = wonderful thing. I lost a race on form lifetime expiration. Will = reapply. I repeatedly ran into the exceedingly low CSRF lifetimes of mailman as = well. Can this be configured slightly more leniently? 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charset=us-ascii Going to https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/newticket gives this error: > Error > > TracError: MissingSectionHeaderError: File contains no section headers. > file: /www/tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/conf/trac.ini, line: 1 > '\xef\xbb\xbf# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-\n' Lars --Apple-Mail=_B456357A-10CB-4CE2-8548-C365BDE88BCB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEmpq0ZpSoejRmyhheVLXDCb9wwVcFAmAFpWkACgkQVLXDCb9w wVf6Kw/+N7wqBXU6TppEXhH8qkmJuOCVFTFl2ta/tRP1xSSpCdD1OjyzusNbKaBO t8Ab8o6L8gS3kuYlmJxP2uQNIty7UjyRtCkZG71eqZvjiMwwsjKDMj0oMrYm/YIR KtbqnJae+nW81TwipyN06IPKKOoVnbff6zgFckbJ4RNK27B7fQnWgZMZUypiWhVD h8+j3WSV4WhphhB0BVP4yd8ZPWsZCo5arXvHGo8Q8CxtN93PFxIb/H/ns2XU8AwM AL0x8T6g0WB6UUx8oi0imN2LxggpDP7tvHK/dqjvrYEreZm4xLl7u4JuA/hku6Tr hu8B1DIkpneU0LK/aryrf9h/+4kPnRFxuw9K5ns5z3833xpHuUoGL44oDR6vDGze wAqEBBjgbUPxXValJjsGl5yVYj8gbL31JO4JY3kHL2+n7aErytmbpeu920v77xGl +p6VQopqFqA4Rsj5kUHgMwXnnjFkRPTSdGxzM72oXMgbBiw/YrVDlOF/hC6ExZ+z FGuv8TzMs57zk6kXtl/06tbZ9HOiIkWVO5O6ghehq77R8ONdtm3eeDq3fb8b4DY+ hNGCNdTchRVB+PI0ZKRF4qij9NqY8L6ffO+vRSyrHxLN1zZKLfakQhgNMFRNP5A2 ddVi4YRLI+LJyVN/vJ3Zhs3bvPKZvaiK4KJjLGrRBBUE3Nu7AeU= =OEuk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_B456357A-10CB-4CE2-8548-C365BDE88BCB-- From nobody Mon Jan 18 07:14:20 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802853A0332 for ; 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Mon, 18 Jan 2021 16:14:12 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <80359503-2D9C-48B1-8245-2B5CFEF4CE49@eggert.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 16:14:11 +0100 Cc: Tools Team Discussion X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 632675650.558905-b1918f5a456160470031bf7106f9b0bb Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0A56D305-8EA3-438F-B514-AE42D5D51A5F@tzi.org> References: <80359503-2D9C-48B1-8245-2B5CFEF4CE49@eggert.org> To: Lars Eggert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Error on datatracker bug reporting page X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:14:20 -0000 On 2021-01-18, at 16:12, Lars Eggert wrote: >=20 > Signed PGP part > Going to https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/newticket gives this = error: >=20 >> Error >>=20 >> TracError: MissingSectionHeaderError: File contains no section = headers. >> file: /www/tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/conf/trac.ini, line: 1 >> '\xef\xbb\xbf# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-\n' >=20 > Lars Hah. BOM infection. Quarantine for two weeks. 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Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:47:10 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-84-gfc141fe8b8-fm-20210125.001-gfc141fe8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <8a0a01e0-361e-4432-a3f0-6bbcb1ea2564@www.fastmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 11:46:52 +1100 From: "Martin Thomson" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] DOIs 10.1145/* are all failing X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 00:47:13 -0000 We've been using DOI-based references via bibxml7 on tools.ietf.org for QUIC. We have a bunch of these that refer to DOIs under 10.1145 (which I believe is ACM). Tools has been returning 404 on these DOIs for a few days now. Is there something that can be done about this? It's not a good situation. I don't really want to inline these references, but I'm about to do that, because the current state is making it difficult to make progress. From nobody Thu Jan 28 18:38:45 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64513A0AB4 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:38:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.08 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.08 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B8cH7pi7aolR for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F1673A0AA7 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from unformal.localdomain ([47.186.1.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 10T2cebT032198 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:38:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1611887921; bh=Tzqmu7XYGUILjU9Qab6gf4/0D92HfrLUhO8xKhkgrzM=; h=To:References:From:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ZYbydLaSLeJAKHpVh1eroBDVkYIv3bRm/YmvqpsTTGTWXsvg5pJstQnLmqHe3m8j0 XD4W1xtRxv9hD1UED1N+feiOhZQMnFVWkd9B6fBoFheENZvPAmFdutsmX/R3msI6be qMAbrdt6QVXQzFnsesbni/Gf+Y9O2ySFXmiyZcVo= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.1.92] claimed to be unformal.localdomain To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <8a0a01e0-361e-4432-a3f0-6bbcb1ea2564@www.fastmail.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <1923540a-850a-97a6-1b09-478931cb7f75@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:38:34 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8a0a01e0-361e-4432-a3f0-6bbcb1ea2564@www.fastmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] DOIs 10.1145/* are all failing X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:38:44 -0000 Hi Martin - The machine that had been serving bibxml=C2=A0 and the online xml2rfc=20 converter (a volunteer run system, primarily sustained through the=20 efforts of Henrik and Tony Hansen) suffered an unrecoverable error. It is being replaced. There are some issues getting the software that=20 generates bibxml7 in particular back online - Tony is working it, and it = should be back soon. We are already on a path to build a new version of the online xml2rfc=20 and bibxml services that can run more redundantly. RjS On 1/28/21 6:46 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > We've been using DOI-based references via bibxml7 on tools.ietf.org for= QUIC. We have a bunch of these that refer to DOIs under 10.1145 (which = I believe is ACM). Tools has been returning 404 on these DOIs for a few = days now. > > Is there something that can be done about this? It's not a good situat= ion. I don't really want to inline these references, but I'm about to do= that, because the current state is making it difficult to make progress.= > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list - Tools-discuss@ietf.org > This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. > * Report datatracker and mailarchive bugs to: datatracker-project@ietf.= org > * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org > * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org > List info (including how to Unsubscribe): https://www.ietf.org/mailman/= listinfo/tools-discuss From nobody Thu Jan 28 18:45:40 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756343A03F1 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:45:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.12 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Thu, 28 Jan 2021 21:45:35 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-84-gfc141fe8b8-fm-20210125.001-gfc141fe8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3d7bdb60-6562-4926-a4bc-05304cbac046@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1923540a-850a-97a6-1b09-478931cb7f75@nostrum.com> References: <8a0a01e0-361e-4432-a3f0-6bbcb1ea2564@www.fastmail.com> <1923540a-850a-97a6-1b09-478931cb7f75@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:45:16 +1100 From: "Martin Thomson" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] DOIs 10.1145/* are all failing X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:45:38 -0000 Thanks Robert. On Fri, Jan 29, 2021, at 13:38, Robert Sparks wrote: > Hi Martin - >=20 > The machine that had been serving bibxml=C2=A0 and the online xml2rfc=20= > converter (a volunteer run system, primarily sustained through the=20 > efforts of Henrik and Tony Hansen) suffered an unrecoverable error. >=20 > It is being replaced. There are some issues getting the software that=20= > generates bibxml7 in particular back online - Tony is working it, and = it=20 > should be back soon. >=20 > We are already on a path to build a new version of the online xml2rfc=20= > and bibxml services that can run more redundantly. >=20 > RjS >=20 > On 1/28/21 6:46 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > > We've been using DOI-based references via bibxml7 on tools.ietf.org = for QUIC. We have a bunch of these that refer to DOIs under 10.1145 (wh= ich I believe is ACM). Tools has been returning 404 on these DOIs for a= few days now. > > > > Is there something that can be done about this? It's not a good sit= uation. I don't really want to inline these references, but I'm about t= o do that, because the current state is making it difficult to make prog= ress. > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tools-discuss mailing list - Tools-discuss@ietf.org > > This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports.= > > * Report datatracker and mailarchive bugs to: datatracker-project@ie= tf.org > > * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org > > List info (including how to Unsubscribe): https://www.ietf.org/mailm= an/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list - Tools-discuss@ietf.org > This list is for discussion, not for action requests or bug reports. > * Report datatracker and mailarchive bugs to:=20 > datatracker-project@ietf.org > * Report tools.ietf.org bugs to: webmaster@tools.ietf.org > * Report all other bugs or issues to: ietf-action@ietf.org > List info (including how to Unsubscribe):=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > From nobody Fri Jan 29 08:38:18 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D523A1145; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 08:38:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.28 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.28 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.399, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id beqjKn2TMWBB; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 08:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FB5C3A1146; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 08:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from unformal.localdomain ([47.186.1.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 10TGc9L4090910 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 29 Jan 2021 10:38:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1611938290; bh=JlxAuLVQa8I7uxeyt7RNvmokSCUtPAIfZKG2b9+Lnhw=; h=From:To:Reply-To:Subject:Date; b=N6SmNdFKKqFsID2EeIKGtcu1UcsLa3c+HI8sJtdWp99+pqZczgQekc0UQLK1iyzLO Gz5a+elasTQT9b/bbO97/M2r0pizUOwUQOMWRk8xrIXZz5eAr7xkU9/MjKlfW336ur 8Pbm5PUkZJh+lM3APGHZDEYRFPKXqvHSYBLKbRQg= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.1.92] claimed to be unformal.localdomain From: Robert Sparks To: codesprints@ietf.org, wgchairs@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, tools-discuss Reply-To: codesprints@ietf.org Message-ID: <9270c846-a25b-00ab-a2d8-f705757ceae4@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 10:38:04 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Codesprint before IETF 110 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 16:38:13 -0000 (If you want to reply to this, please be careful to honor the Reply-To:=20 codesprints@ietf.org header). We are considering holding one or more CodeSprints well before IETF 110=20 instead of (or perhaps in addition to) the Saturday before the meeting. If you've never been to an IETF CodeSprint, please consider joining for=20 a couple of hours, even if only to learn about how you can contribute. The doodle is at=20 https://doodle.com/poll/vz2uh2wez79e8xf8?utm_source=3Dpoll&utm_medium=3Dl= ink. Please note that it offers many more options than it initially displays. = The doodle includes the Saturday before the meeting if that remains your = preference. Please let me know what date/times would work for you as soon as you can.= RjS