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ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F395712004D; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 07:19:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: rdd@cert.org, txauth-chairs@ietf.org, avezza@amsl.com, txauth@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <157080357792.29116.6972952205723115985.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 07:19:37 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Txauth] txauth - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 106 X-BeenThere: txauth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 14:19:38 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Amy K. 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from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g7dlSSy6OLBp for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alkaline-solutions.com (unknown [IPv6:2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe93:6974]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A389F12009C for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2601:282:202:b210:acae:75f7:c13c:c0f7] (unknown [IPv6:2601:282:202:b210:acae:75f7:c13c:c0f7]) by alkaline-solutions.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A8FA3155C; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 18:09:01 +0000 (UTC) From: David Waite Message-Id: <3FCF36FC-F428-49CF-8581-F78207150602@alkaline-solutions.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2FAFA647-6A97-4D9E-93E0-FC15B67C8C1C" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3594.4.19\)) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 12:09:00 -0600 In-Reply-To: Cc: Justin Richer To: "txauth@ietf.org" References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3594.4.19) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Txauth] Changes to XYZ X-BeenThere: txauth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 18:09:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2FAFA647-6A97-4D9E-93E0-FC15B67C8C1C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Oct 11, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Justin Richer wrote: > - Clients can now signal more than one kind of interaction is = possible. Syntactically this means we=E2=80=99re sending keys with = booleans instead of a =E2=80=9Ctype=E2=80=9D key with a string value. = Practically this means that the AS now can choose from among a set of = options that the client can do and determine what makes the most sense, = probably allowing multiple options that it supports. Would it make sense for the interaction configuration to be the value of = that key? e.g. "redirect": { "callback": "https://client.example.net/return/123455", "nonce": "LKLTI25DK82FX4T4QFZC" } > - I renamed the =E2=80=9Cclient=E2=80=9D section to =E2=80=9Cdisplay=E2= =80=9D because that=E2=80=99s more what it was =E2=80=94 user-facing = elements. It=E2=80=99s my hope that this will be less of a place to hang = everything off of, like the client ended up being in OAuth2. It sounds like the use of the term =E2=80=9Cclient=E2=80=9D is being = deemphasized in the protocol. Would a tweak to the role name potentially = be in scope, or would we want to avoid the arguments that come from = adding that whole extra wing onto the current bike shed? I ask because while I have obviously gotten very comfortable with the = use of the term client, the generic nature of the term does cause = collisions and confusion when OAuth is adopted into a pre-existing = space. It may also be that the use of =E2=80=98client=E2=80=99 gets qualified = and/or deemphasized once you are talking about the role only in the = context of interaction with transaction endpoints. -DW= --Apple-Mail=_2FAFA647-6A97-4D9E-93E0-FC15B67C8C1C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On = Oct 11, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> = wrote:

<snip>

 - = Clients can now signal more than one kind of interaction is possible. = Syntactically this means we=E2=80=99re sending keys with booleans = instead of a =E2=80=9Ctype=E2=80=9D key with a string value. Practically = this means that the AS now can choose from among a set of options that = the client can do and determine what makes the most sense, probably = allowing multiple options that it supports.

Would it make sense = for the interaction configuration to be the value of that key? = e.g.

  "redirect": = {
  =   "callback": = "https://client.example.net/return/123455",
    "nonce": "LKLTI25DK82FX4T4QFZC"
  = }

 - I renamed the =E2=80=9Cclient=E2=80=9D = section to =E2=80=9Cdisplay=E2=80=9D because that=E2=80=99s more what it = was =E2=80=94 user-facing elements. It=E2=80=99s my hope that this will = be less of a place to hang everything off of, like the client ended up = being in OAuth2.

It sounds like the use of the term =E2=80=9Cclient=E2= =80=9D is being deemphasized in the protocol. Would a tweak to the role = name potentially be in scope, or would we want to avoid the arguments = that come from adding that whole extra wing onto the current bike = shed?

I ask because while I have = obviously gotten very comfortable with the use of the term client, the = generic nature of the term does cause collisions and confusion when = OAuth is adopted into a pre-existing space.

It may also be that the use of =E2=80=98client=E2=80= =99 gets qualified and/or deemphasized once you are talking about the = role only in the context of interaction with transaction = endpoints.

-DW
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X-BeenThere: txauth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 16:05:36 -0000 --0000000000006f8ee705956dda3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Justin, will people have a chance to join remotely just as for a WG session? *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:22 AM Justin Richer wrote: > The BoF has officially been scheduled for Singapore: > > 13:30-15:30 Monday Afternoon session I > 4 > > Padang > sec txauth Transaction= al > Authorization and Delegation BOF > > Hope to see you there! > > =E2=80=94 Justin > > -- > Txauth mailing list > Txauth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth > --0000000000006f8ee705956dda3a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Justin, will people have a chance to join remotely just= as for a WG session?

Eve Maler
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On = Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:22 AM Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> wrote:
The BoF has officially been scheduled for Singapore:

13:30-15:30 Monday Afternoon session I
4 Padang sec txauth Transactional Authorization and Delegation BOF

Hope to see you there!

=E2=80=94 Justin

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Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. txauth Session 1 (2:00 requested) Monday, 18 November 2019, Afternoon Session I 1330-1530 Room Name: Padang size: 300 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/sessions/txauth.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Transactional Authorization and Delegation Area Name: Security Area Session Requester: Amy Vezza Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 150 Conflicts to Avoid: Technology Overlap: httpbis quic saag ace acme cose curdle dots emu i2nsf ipsecme kitten lamps mile mls oauth rats sacm secdispatch secevent suit teep tls tokbind trans People who must be present: Roman Danyliw Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Oct 28 08:39:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: txauth@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: txauth@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33FF1208C5; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:39:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tjHcI8Anwg_p; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lj1-x230.google.com (mail-lj1-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 880C71208C4; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x230.google.com with SMTP id c4so11837132lja.11; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0KnNIvOUY1Ci7eKqxUvXLJTMfR8oJZJNmbzm1YKNiyU=; b=KbPraKkil9NxxLmu5r4MTxuEzhAV+nbkcBvoS81GO2xsoKHByXESCuRr7jTg/UAdUi 8N8lYn+X9DKxRlm4Bn2EgpdqT8r7O4SFkBvRw798G0iw5OACnKjrhhvGxW7rU2yX1jsX kXKYmNrUzEnRDx0KpQo8QswNymAV1MYXyE/fxb1ixlQIbsnD6FhV3soW3+Tq9psF77RW 6vfpTKRNNvdcHD8GYJGna2d7E6BYd301ZiyCtBMrDWPB1DHWhG8H57JP3yAUlG9aGUj3 VVFR0UoMg59s7CLqgscnzFFfoAbx7RgOijbFEJFrJrYoqP6SjU1Z3iiXnsEyFA+YfSip uoOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0KnNIvOUY1Ci7eKqxUvXLJTMfR8oJZJNmbzm1YKNiyU=; b=DPP6JwhI8WdZsorqOkWMsQHjc3xY+8xuOZ8Tc4p6bUteYs5BMiRvK5i3ISahQAt/Qp TQKuCG+RtkDA7A847f3D3vl56Q3cqKN6Pyi9QCrxUeIslWqyLHdCYnFJ8tOq58vAb9Uj c+p4uIQng06Cr8eW/N5dvgjQL+bWMxpXRTMDlnO1CTszlSLQ+79J+4rUvk3K5Vaxd6q9 aX7Qebjc0J5W9mzaPJ/B1jCyrh2ke3R1gt5ebanC620RN/vpB+Rq42feXKnsXXicuXiL JShpBs60ygoG2/ZzubwjhMeixhuyFywXaU40iX1I0kVfvBSTeMv94+E+DJE5ndiCCA/q BUgw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXHktwcn6gfcppe56UJlLf9nDHgbd7mzi32bN2S0vaKNPpwV43S lVPH93TuWQGHd+UoZt+LgWjHwE0VcPFkWKtcyUXIlW/nhAc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyzmAhoPu8SDLGqgmLQinRqhBlREOQ4UntrAOJTrKC0e5hhWW0vrADEl/wDOzYhujrhm/laxRYGp45Oy1MG5LA= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9112:: with SMTP id m18mr12720217ljg.75.1572277184527; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:39:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dick Hardt Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:39:33 -0700 Message-ID: To: oauth@ietf.org, txauth@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001282d40595fa4f09" Archived-At: Subject: [Txauth] Tx Auth BOF agenda items X-BeenThere: txauth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:39:48 -0000 --0000000000001282d40595fa4f09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hey OAuthers As chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov 18 @ 5:30-7:30PM Monday Afternoon, I'm gathering who would be interested in making presentations, and how much time you would like. /Dick --0000000000001282d40595fa4f09 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey OAuthers

As chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov 1= 8 @ 5:30-7:30PM Monday Afternoon, I&= #39;m gathering who would be interested in making presentations, and how mu= ch time you would like.

/Dick
--0000000000001282d40595fa4f09-- From nobody Mon Oct 28 10:44:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: txauth@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: txauth@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E4212008B; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:44:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JraDYkx4oTQN; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtprelay08.ispgateway.de (smtprelay08.ispgateway.de [134.119.228.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC72912007A; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [91.13.158.20] (helo=[192.168.71.123]) by smtprelay08.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1iP94O-00067q-5l; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 18:44:44 +0100 From: Torsten Lodderstedt Message-Id: <213B6F9D-5737-4C20-AA87-1581C0F401ED@lodderstedt.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3414B679-7311-4680-AE36-5F8F4BC37BE6"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 18:44:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: oauth , txauth@ietf.org To: Dick Hardt References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Df-Sender: dG9yc3RlbkBsb2RkZXJzdGVkdC5uZXQ= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Txauth] [OAUTH-WG] Tx Auth BOF agenda items X-BeenThere: txauth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 17:44:50 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_3414B679-7311-4680-AE36-5F8F4BC37BE6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Dick,=20 Justin asked me to shed some light on the rationale and current status = of the work on OAuth Rich & Pushed Authorization Requests. I think I = will need 20 min. best regards, Torsten.=20 > On 28. 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To: Torsten Lodderstedt Cc: oauth , txauth@ietf.org, Yaron Sheffer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d25e330595fc12de" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Txauth] [OAUTH-WG] Tx Auth BOF agenda items X-BeenThere: txauth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 17:46:15 -0000 --000000000000d25e330595fc12de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Got it. Thanks Torsten! On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:44 AM Torsten Lodderstedt < torsten@lodderstedt.net> wrote: > Hi Dick, > > Justin asked me to shed some light on the rationale and current status of > the work on OAuth Rich & Pushed Authorization Requests. I think I will need > 20 min. > > best regards, > Torsten. > > > On 28. Oct 2019, at 16:39, Dick Hardt wrote: > > > > Hey OAuthers > > > > As chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov 18 @ 5:30-7:30PM > Monday Afternoon, I'm gathering who would be interested in making > presentations, and how much time you would like. > > > > /Dick > > _______________________________________________ > > OAuth mailing list > > OAuth@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > > --000000000000d25e330595fc12de Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Got it. Thanks Torsten!

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:44 AM To= rsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lo= dderstedt.net> wrote:
Hi Dick,

Justin asked me to shed some light on the rationale and current status of t= he work on OAuth Rich & Pushed Authorization Requests. I think I will n= eed 20 min.

best regards,
Torsten.

> On 28. Oct 2019, at 16:39, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey OAuthers
>
> As chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov 18 @ 5:30-7:30PM = Monday Afternoon, I'm gathering who would be interested in making prese= ntations, and how much time you would like.
>
> /Dick
> _______________________________________________
> OAuth mailing list
> OAuth@ietf.org=
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth

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On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:39 AM Dick Hardt &= lt;dick.hardt@gmail.com> wro= te:
Hey OAuthers

As = chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov 18 @ 5:30-7:30PM Monday Afternoon, I'm gathering who= would be interested in making presentations, and how much time you would l= ike.=C2=A0

Is this BoF limited = to authorization, or would something like end-to-end authentication of tran= saction request/response via a less trusted intermediary (e.g., an API gate= way or CDN) for purposes of limiting transitive trust be in scope? I'm = thinking of something akin to OSCORE-style transactions, but more general (= e.g., not specific to constrained computing environments, not forcing the u= se of CBOR).

Thanks,
Kyle
<= /div>
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My understanding=C2=A0was it was transaction authorization= .=C2=A0

(it is unfortunate that authorization and authen= tication both start with 'auth' in english - 'authN' and &#= 39;authZ' are preferred to 'auth' IMHO)

On Mon, Oct 28, 20= 19 at 10:55 AM Kyle Rose <krose@krose= .org> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:39 AM Dick Har= dt <dick.hardt= @gmail.com> wrote:
Hey OAuthers

As chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov 18= @ 5:30-7:30PM Monday Afternoon= , I'm gathering who would be interested in making presentations, and ho= w much time you would like.=C2=A0

Is this BoF limited to authorization, or would something like end-to-end= authentication of transaction request/response via a less trusted intermed= iary (e.g., an API gateway or CDN) for purposes of limiting transitive trus= t be in scope? I'm thinking of something akin to OSCORE-style transacti= ons, but more general (e.g., not specific to constrained computing environm= ents, not forcing the use of CBOR).

Thanks,
Kyle
--000000000000bf93b60595fc4fa3-- From nobody Mon Oct 28 13:57:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: txauth@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: txauth@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E7F120072; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:57:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8XKgRLMH8Ycg; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70F64120024; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (static-71-174-62-56.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [71.174.62.56]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as jricher@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id x9SKvIoM008870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 28 Oct 2019 16:57:19 -0400 From: Justin Richer Message-Id: <2348A854-97C5-45E3-BA4E-3E641B0D6DDE@mit.edu> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EB174CE9-782C-4C0A-BC1B-D4AE5F9E7A22" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 16:57:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: Dick Hardt , oauth@ietf.org, txauth@ietf.org To: Kyle Rose References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Txauth] Tx Auth BOF agenda items X-BeenThere: txauth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 20:57:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_EB174CE9-782C-4C0A-BC1B-D4AE5F9E7A22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 The intended scope is to provide a transactional model for doing = authorization delegation, not for authenticating a transaction itself. I = can understand the confusion! Naming things is hard.=20 =E2=80=94 Justin > On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Kyle Rose wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:39 AM Dick Hardt > wrote: > Hey OAuthers >=20 > As chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov 18 @ 5:30-7:30PM = Monday Afternoon, I'm gathering who would be interested in making = presentations, and how much time you would like.=20 >=20 > Is this BoF limited to authorization, or would something like = end-to-end authentication of transaction request/response via a less = trusted intermediary (e.g., an API gateway or CDN) for purposes of = limiting transitive trust be in scope? I'm thinking of something akin to = OSCORE-style transactions, but more general (e.g., not specific to = constrained computing environments, not forcing the use of CBOR). >=20 > Thanks, > Kyle > --=20 > Txauth mailing list > Txauth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth --Apple-Mail=_EB174CE9-782C-4C0A-BC1B-D4AE5F9E7A22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 The = intended scope is to provide a transactional model for doing = authorization delegation, not for authenticating a transaction itself. I = can understand the confusion! Naming things is hard. 

 =E2=80=94 = Justin

On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> = wrote:

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:39 AM Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey OAuthers

As chair of the Tx BOF = coming up in Singapore on Nov 18 @ 5:30-7:30PM Monday Afternoon, = I'm gathering who would be interested in making presentations, and how = much time you would like. 

Is this BoF limited to = authorization, or would something like end-to-end authentication of = transaction request/response via a less trusted intermediary (e.g., an = API gateway or CDN) for purposes of limiting transitive trust be in = scope? I'm thinking of something akin to OSCORE-style transactions, but = more general (e.g., not specific to constrained computing environments, = not forcing the use of CBOR).

Thanks,
Kyle
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Got it. Thanks. I'll shop around for another venue.
On= Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 4:57 PM Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> wrote:
The inte= nded scope is to provide a transactional model for doing authorization dele= gation, not for authenticating a transaction itself. I can understand the c= onfusion! Naming things is hard.=C2=A0

=C2=A0=E2=80=94 J= ustin

On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:55 P= M, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> wrote:

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:39 AM Dick Hardt <dick.hard= t@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey OAuthers

As chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov 18= @ 5:30-7:30PM Monday Afternoon= , I'm gathering who would be interested in making presentations, and ho= w much time you would like.=C2=A0

Is this BoF limited to authorization, or would something like end-to-end= authentication of transaction request/response via a less trusted intermed= iary (e.g., an API gateway or CDN) for purposes of limiting transitive trus= t be in scope? I'm thinking of something akin to OSCORE-style transacti= ons, but more general (e.g., not specific to constrained computing environm= ents, not forcing the use of CBOR).

Thanks,
Kyle
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Unclear what I was smoking when I said wh= en the BoF was. It is at 13:30-15:30 per=C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/age= nda

Sorry for any confusion.
=

= On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:39 AM Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey OAut= hers

As chair of the Tx BO= F coming up in Singapore on Nov 18 @ 5:30-7:30PM Monday Afternoon, I'm gathering who would be interest= ed in making presentations, and how much time you would like.

/Dick
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I project that to take about 20 min if we dive right into = the gritty details. I can also do a level-set for the BoF, like 10min. =E2=80=94 Justin > On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Dick Hardt wrote: >=20 > Hey OAuthers >=20 > As chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov 18 @ 5:30-7:30PM = Monday Afternoon, I'm gathering who would be interested in making = presentations, and how much time you would like. >=20 > /Dick > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing list > OAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth From nobody Mon Oct 28 14:35:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: txauth@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: txauth@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688D0120144; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 14:35:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, 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On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:35 PM Richard Backman, Annabelle < richanna@amazon.com> wrote: > Justin had requested that I present on some non-authorization use cases > for something like XYZ. This shouldn=E2=80=99t take more than 15 minutes. > > > > =E2=80=93 > > Annabelle Richard Backman > > AWS Identity > > > > > > *From: *OAuth on behalf of Dick Hardt < > dick.hardt@gmail.com> > *Date: *Monday, October 28, 2019 at 8:41 AM > *To: *"oauth@ietf.org" , "txauth@ietf.org" < > txauth@ietf.org> > *Subject: *[OAUTH-WG] Tx Auth BOF agenda items > > > > Hey OAuthers > > > > As chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov 18 @ 5:30-7:30PM > > Monday Afternoon, I'm gathering who would be interested in making > presentations, and how much time you would like. > > > > /Dick > --0000000000005c1c8e0595ff4ba2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Justin & Annabelle!

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:35= PM Richard Backman, Annabelle <r= ichanna@amazon.com> wrote:

Justin had requested that I present on some non-auth= orization use cases for something like XYZ. This shouldn=E2=80=99t take mor= e than 15 minutes.

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From: = OAuth <oauth-bounces@ietf.org= > on behalf of Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, October 28, 2019 at 8:41 AM
To: "oauth@= ietf.org" <= oauth@ietf.org>, "txauth@ietf.org" <txauth@ietf.org>
Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Tx Auth BOF agenda items

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Hey OAuthers

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As chair of the Tx BOF coming up in Singapore on Nov= 18 @ 5:30-7:30PM

Monday Afternoon, I'm gathering who would be int= erested in making presentations, and how much time you would like.

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/Dick

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