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I=E2=80=99ve updated the XYZ draft. This brings it in line with what=E2=80=
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<https://oauth.xyz/>

 =E2=80=94 Justin

> Begin forwarded message:
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> A new version of I-D, draft-richer-transactional-authz-03.txt
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> Name:		draft-richer-transactional-authz
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> Title:		Transactional Authorization
> Document date:	2019-11-01
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> Abstract:
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class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve updated the XYZ draft. This brings it in line =
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Thanks for doing this work Justin. I'm really disappointed that I won't =
be able to make it to the txauth session because I'm chairing two workin=
g groups through that entire timeslot :(

I was looking for something to replace the authentication which was prop=
osed in the very first draft of JMAP core here:

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-jenkins-jmap-00.txt

I'm keen to get involved with txauth or whoever else and see if there's =
a way we can have the same flexible (and possibly even out-of-band) sess=
ion setup and bootstrap system! I'll try to find you in Singapore and ha=
ve a chat.

Cheers,

Bron.

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 08:50, Justin Richer wrote:
> I=E2=80=99ve updated the XYZ draft. This brings it in line with what=E2=
=80=99s currently available on the website, https://oauth.xyz/
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>  =E2=80=94 Justin
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>> Begin forwarded message:
>>=20
>> *From: *internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> *Subject: **New Version Notification for draft-richer-transactional-a=
uthz-03.txt*
>> *Date: *November 1, 2019 at 4:14:20 PM EDT
>>=20
>>=20
>> A new version of I-D, draft-richer-transactional-authz-03.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Justin Richer and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>=20
>> Name: draft-richer-transactional-authz
>> Revision: 03
>> Title: Transactional Authorization
>> Document date: 2019-11-01
>> Group: Individual Submission
>> Pages: 28
>> URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-richer-transactional-=
authz-03.txt
>> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richer-transactional-a=
uthz/
>> Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-richer-transactional-auth=
z-03
>> Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-richer-transact=
ional-authz
>> Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-richer-transactional-=
authz-03
>>=20
>> Abstract:
>>  This document defines a mechanism for delegating authorization to a
>>  piece of software, and conveying that delegation to the software.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of sub=
mission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
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ont-family:Arial;">Thanks for doing this work Justin.&nbsp; I'm really d=
isappointed that I won't be able to make it to the txauth session becaus=
e I'm chairing two working groups through that entire timeslot :(<br></d=
iv><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family=
:Arial;">I was looking for something to replace the authentication which=
 was proposed in the very first draft of JMAP core here:<br></div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">=
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-jenkins-jmap-00.txt">ht=
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v style=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial=
;">I'm keen to get involved with txauth or whoever else and see if there=
's a way we can have the same flexible (and possibly even out-of-band) s=
ession setup and bootstrap system!&nbsp; I'll try to find you in Singapo=
re and have a chat.<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br>Cheer=
s,</div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br>Bron.<br></div><div style=3D=
"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div>On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 08:50, Justi=
n Richer wrote:<br></div><blockquote id=3D"qt" type=3D"cite"><div style=3D=
"font-family:Arial;">I=E2=80=99ve updated the XYZ draft. This brings it =
in line with what=E2=80=99s currently available on the website, <a href=3D=
"https://oauth.xyz/" class=3D"qt-">https://oauth.xyz/</a><br></div><div =
class=3D"qt-"><br></div><div class=3D"qt-"><div style=3D"font-family:Ari=
al;">&nbsp;=E2=80=94 Justin<br></div><div class=3D"qt-"><div><div style=3D=
"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"qt-"><=
div class=3D"qt-">Begin forwarded message:<br></div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;ma=
rgin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;" class=3D"qt-"><span style=3D"color:rgb=
(0, 0, 0)" class=3D"colour"><span style=3D"font-family:-webkit-system-fo=
nt, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif" class=3D"font"><b class=3D"qt=
-">From: </b></span></span><span style=3D"font-family:-webkit-system-fon=
t, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif" class=3D"font"><a href=3D"mail=
to:internet-drafts@ietf.org" class=3D"qt-">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a><=
/span><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bot=
tom:0px;margin-left:0px;" class=3D"qt-"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0=
)" class=3D"colour"><span style=3D"font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helv=
etica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif" class=3D"font"><b class=3D"qt-">Subje=
ct: </b></span></span><span style=3D"font-family:-webkit-system-font, He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif" class=3D"font"><b class=3D"qt-">New=
 Version Notification for draft-richer-transactional-authz-03.txt</b></s=
pan><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-botto=
m:0px;margin-left:0px;" class=3D"qt-"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"=
 class=3D"colour"><span style=3D"font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvet=
ica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif" class=3D"font"><b class=3D"qt-">Date: <=
/b></span></span><span style=3D"font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helveti=
ca Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif" class=3D"font">November 1, 2019 at 4:14:=
20 PM EDT</span><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;=
margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;" class=3D"qt-"><br></div><div class=3D=
"qt-"><div class=3D"qt-"><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><di=
v style=3D"font-family:Arial;">A new version of I-D, draft-richer-transa=
ctional-authz-03.txt<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">has been=
 successfully submitted by Justin Richer and posted to the<br></div><div=
 style=3D"font-family:Arial;">IETF repository.<br></div><div style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Name:<span=
 class=3D"qt-Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre;"> </span><span cl=
ass=3D"qt-Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre;"> </span>draft-riche=
r-transactional-authz<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Revisio=
n:<span class=3D"qt-Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre;"> </span>0=
3<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Title:<span class=3D"qt-App=
le-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre;"> </span><span class=3D"qt-Apple-=
tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre;"> </span>Transactional Authorization=
<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Document date:<span class=3D=
"qt-Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre;"> </span>2019-11-01<br></d=
iv><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Group:<span class=3D"qt-Apple-tab-s=
pan" style=3D"white-space:pre;"> </span><span class=3D"qt-Apple-tab-span=
" style=3D"white-space:pre;"> </span>Individual Submission<br></div><div=
 style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Pages:<span class=3D"qt-Apple-tab-span" st=
yle=3D"white-space:pre;"> </span><span class=3D"qt-Apple-tab-span" style=
=3D"white-space:pre;"> </span>28<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Aria=
l;">URL: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-richer-transact=
ional-authz-03.txt" class=3D"qt-">https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/d=
raft-richer-transactional-authz-03.txt</a><br></div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial;">Status: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a=
 href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richer-transactional-aut=
hz/" class=3D"qt-">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richer-transac=
tional-authz/</a><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Htmlized: &=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/htm=
l/draft-richer-transactional-authz-03" class=3D"qt-">https://tools.ietf.=
org/html/draft-richer-transactional-authz-03</a><br></div><div style=3D"=
font-family:Arial;">Htmlized: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a hre=
f=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-richer-transactional-au=
thz" class=3D"qt-">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-richer-tr=
ansactional-authz</a><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Diff: &=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"ht=
tps://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-richer-transactional-authz-03" c=
lass=3D"qt-">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-richer-transactio=
nal-authz-03</a><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Abstract:<br></div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Arial;">&nbsp;&nbsp;This document defines a mechanism for delegatin=
g authorization to a<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">&nbsp;&n=
bsp;piece of software, and conveying that delegation to the software.<br=
></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Arial;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;"=
><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;">Please note that it may tak=
e a couple of minutes from the time of submission<br></div><div style=3D=
"font-family:Arial;">until the htmlized version and diff are available a=
t <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org" class=3D"qt-">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br=
></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Arial;">The IETF Secretariat<br></div></div></div></blockquote></di=
v></div></div><div>--&nbsp;<br></div><div>Txauth mailing list<br></div><=
div>Txauth@ietf.org<br></div><div>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/=
txauth<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div style=3D"font-family:Ar=
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/div><div class=3D"signature">&nbsp; Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Lt=
d<br></div><div class=3D"signature">&nbsp; brong@fastmailteam.com<br></d=
iv><div class=3D"signature"><br></div></div><div style=3D"font-family:Ar=
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That is a very interesting draft that I hadn=E2=80=99t seen, thanks for =
passing it along. I think that does fit the same kind of model that XYZ =
is built around, with the client asking for something but having =
opportunities to step things up along the way.=20

I look forward to your involvement with TXAuth wherever it lands, and =
perhaps we can grab some time for a side chat in Singapore as well.

 =E2=80=94 Justin

> On Nov 4, 2019, at 1:05 AM, Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Thanks for doing this work Justin.  I'm really disappointed that I =
won't be able to make it to the txauth session because I'm chairing two =
working groups through that entire timeslot :(
>=20
> I was looking for something to replace the authentication which was =
proposed in the very first draft of JMAP core here:
>=20
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-jenkins-jmap-00.txt =
<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-jenkins-jmap-00.txt>
>=20
> I'm keen to get involved with txauth or whoever else and see if =
there's a way we can have the same flexible (and possibly even =
out-of-band) session setup and bootstrap system!  I'll try to find you =
in Singapore and have a chat.
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> Bron.
>=20
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 08:50, Justin Richer wrote:
>> I=E2=80=99ve updated the XYZ draft. This brings it in line with =
what=E2=80=99s currently available on the website, https://oauth.xyz/ =
<https://oauth.xyz/>
>>=20
>>  =E2=80=94 Justin
>>=20
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>=20
>>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>>> Subject: New Version Notification for =
draft-richer-transactional-authz-03.txt
>>> Date: November 1, 2019 at 4:14:20 PM EDT
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> A new version of I-D, draft-richer-transactional-authz-03.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by Justin Richer and posted to the
>>> IETF repository.
>>>=20
>>> Name:  draft-richer-transactional-authz
>>> Revision: 03
>>> Title:  Transactional Authorization
>>> Document date: 2019-11-01
>>> Group:  Individual Submission
>>> Pages:  28
>>> URL:            =
https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-richer-transactional-authz-03.t=
xt =
<https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-richer-transactional-authz-03.=
txt>
>>> Status:         =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richer-transactional-authz/ =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richer-transactional-authz/>
>>> Htmlized:       =
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-richer-transactional-authz-03 =
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-richer-transactional-authz-03>
>>> Htmlized:       =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-richer-transactional-authz =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-richer-transactional-authz>
>>> Diff:           =
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-richer-transactional-authz-03 =
<https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-richer-transactional-authz-03>
>>>=20
>>> Abstract:
>>>   This document defines a mechanism for delegating authorization to =
a
>>>   piece of software, and conveying that delegation to the software.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of =
submission
>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org =
<http://tools.ietf.org/>.
>>>=20
>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>=20
>> --=20
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>>=20
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>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">That =
is a very interesting draft that I hadn=E2=80=99t seen, thanks for =
passing it along. I think that does fit the same kind of model that XYZ =
is built around, with the client asking for something but having =
opportunities to step things up along the way.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I look forward to your involvement with =
TXAuth wherever it lands, and perhaps we can grab some time for a side =
chat in Singapore as well.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;=E2=80=94 Justin<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Nov =
4, 2019, at 1:05 AM, Bron Gondwana &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:brong@fastmailteam.com" =
class=3D"">brong@fastmailteam.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial;" class=3D"">Thanks for doing =
this work Justin.&nbsp; I'm really disappointed that I won't be able to =
make it to the txauth session because I'm chairing two working groups =
through that entire timeslot :(<br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Arial;" class=3D"">I was looking for something to replace the =
authentication which was proposed in the very first draft of JMAP core =
here:<br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Arial;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-jenkins-jmap-00.txt" =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-jenkins-jmap-00.txt</a><b=
r class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Arial;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Arial;" class=3D"">I'm keen to get involved with =
txauth or whoever else and see if there's a way we can have the same =
flexible (and possibly even out-of-band) session setup and bootstrap =
system!&nbsp; I'll try to find you in Singapore and have a chat.<br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Arial;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Arial;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Bron.<br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Arial;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 08:50, Justin =
Richer wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blockquote id=3D"qt" type=3D"cite" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Arial;" =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve updated the XYZ draft. This brings it in line =
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class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: Arial;" class=3D"">A new =
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successfully submitted by Justin Richer and posted to the<br =
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thz-03.txt" =
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Hello Everyone, see agenda below:

Monday Nov-18-2019 1330

TxAuth Bof Agenda

Introduction and Context   Chairs 10 min

Limitations and Feature Requests

Limitations of OAuth       Justin 10 min
Limitations of OAuth       Torsten 5 min
Feature Requests           Torsten 5 min
Feature Requests           Justin 10 min
Non Authorize Features  Annabelle 15 min

Proposals

OAuth XYZ [1]              Justin 20 min
RAR & PAR [2]             Torsten 20 min

Discussion                 Chairs 15 min

Next Steps                 Chairs 10 min

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richer-transactional-authz/

[2] Rich and Pushed Authorization Requests
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-par/



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Hi Dick,

Will this BoF be streamed?

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> Subject: [Txauth] Tx Auth BOF agenda
> Hello Everyone, see agenda below:
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> Monday Nov-18-2019 1330
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> TxAuth Bof Agenda
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> Introduction and Context   Chairs 10 min
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> Limitations and Feature Requests
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Dick,</div><div><br></div><div>Wi=
ll this BoF be streamed?<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:txauth-request@ietf.org">txauth-request@ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote=
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Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Tx Auth BOF agenda (Dick Hardt)<br>
<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From:=C2=A0Dick Hard=
t &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dick.hardt@=
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_blank">txauth@ietf.org</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:oauth@ietf.org" target=3D"_b=
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mail.com" target=3D"_blank">yaronf.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;, &quot;Richard Ba=
ckman, Annabelle&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:richanna@amazon.com" target=3D=
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dir=3D"ltr"><div><font face=3D"monospace">Hello Everyone, see agenda below:=
</font></div><div><font face=3D"monospace"><br></font></div><div><font face=
=3D"monospace">Monday Nov-18-2019 1330<br></font></div><div><font face=3D"m=
onospace"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"monospace">TxAuth Bof Agenda<=
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ten		 5 min<br>Feature Requests=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Tor=
sten		 5 min<br>Feature Requests=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ju=
stin		10 min <br>Non Authorize Features=C2=A0 Annabelle	15 min<br><br>Propo=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Chairs		10 min<br><br>[1] <=
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TxAuth Bof Agenda

Introduction and Context   Chairs 10 min

Limitations and Feature Requests

Limitations of OAuth       Justin 10 min
Limitations of OAuth       Torsten 5 min
Feature Requests           Torsten 5 min
Feature Requests           Justin 10 min=20
Non Authorize Features  Annabelle 15 min

Proposals

OAuth XYZ [1]              Justin 20 min
RAR & PAR [2]             Torsten 20 min=20

Discussion                 Chairs 15 min

Next Steps                 Chairs 10 min

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richer-transactional-authz/

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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar/
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> On 11. Nov 2019, at 18:10, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello Everyone, see agenda below:
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> Monday Nov-18-2019 1330
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> TxAuth Bof Agenda
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> Introduction and Context   Chairs 10 min
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> Limitations and Feature Requests
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> Limitations of OAuth       Justin	10 min
> Limitations of OAuth       Torsten	5 min
> Feature Requests           Torsten	5 min
> Feature Requests           Justin	10 min=20
> Non Authorize Features  Annabelle	15 min
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> Proposals
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> OAuth XYZ [1]              Justin	20 min
> RAR & PAR [2]             Torsten	20 min=09
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> Discussion                 Chairs	15 min
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> Next Steps                 Chairs	10 min
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> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richer-transactional-authz/
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> [2] Rich and Pushed Authorization Requests
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-rar/
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-par/
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Hi all,

I was having trouble tracking down the agenda and reading materials
for the upcoming sessions this week so I put together a page on
oauth.net to collect everything in one place.

https://oauth.net/events/2019-11-ietf106/

It contains a list of all the sessions, their time and location,
agenda details, and links to all the draft specs that will be
discussed. I thought this might be helpful to others as well.

Hope this helps!

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Yep

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> 20 nov. 2019 kl. 14:21 skrev Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>:
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I=E2=80=99ll be there.
 - Justin

> On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:27 PM, Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se> wrote:
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> Yep
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> Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPhone
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followup on Friday.
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>> /Dick
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I missed the BOF, so I'd be keen to come along and chat. Where are you meeting?

Cheers,

Bron.

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Thanks for getting back to me. There is enough interest that I have booked
a room

Unfortunately, rooms are all busy at 11:30, so I am moving the start time
to 10:30, ending at 11:30.

I booked Butterworth, which is where the OAuth 2.1 meeting was today.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 2:21 PM Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me know if you are interested in joining an informal txauth discussion
> tomorrow at 11AM. We may get lunch afterwards. We may have a followup on
> Friday.
>
> /Dick
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for getting=C2=A0back to me. There=
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ely, rooms are all busy at 11:30, so I am moving the start time to 10:30, e=
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re the OAuth 2.1 meeting was today.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 2:21 PM Di=
ck Hardt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com">dick.hardt@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
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If possible please share some notes on the list after, thanks

On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 14:38, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for getting back to me. There is enough interest that I have booked
> a room
>
> Unfortunately, rooms are all busy at 11:30, so I am moving the start time
> to 10:30, ending at 11:30.
>
> I booked Butterworth, which is where the OAuth 2.1 meeting was today.
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 2:21 PM Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Let me know if you are interested in joining an informal txauth
>> discussion tomorrow at 11AM. We may get lunch afterwards. We may have a
>> followup on Friday.
>>
>> /Dick
>>
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r">On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 14:38, Dick Hardt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dick.hard=
t@gmail.com">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
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or getting=C2=A0back to me. There is enough interest that I have booked a r=
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 booked Butterworth, which is where the OAuth 2.1 meeting was today.</div><=
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Will do.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 9:36 PM Adrian Hope-Bailie <adrian@hopebailie.com>
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> If possible please share some notes on the list after, thanks
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 14:38, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks for getting back to me. There is enough interest that I have
>> booked a room
>>
>> Unfortunately, rooms are all busy at 11:30, so I am moving the start time
>> to 10:30, ending at 11:30.
>>
>> I booked Butterworth, which is where the OAuth 2.1 meeting was today.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 2:21 PM Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Let me know if you are interested in joining an informal txauth
>>> discussion tomorrow at 11AM. We may get lunch afterwards. We may have a
>>> followup on Friday.
>>>
>>> /Dick
>>>
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<div>Will do.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 9:36 PM Adrian Hope-Bailie &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:adrian@hopebailie.com">adrian@hopebailie.com</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">If possible pleas=
e share some notes on the list after, thanks</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 14:38, Dick Hardt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dick.hardt=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Thanks for getting=C2=A0back to me. There is enough interest that =
I have booked a room<div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, rooms are all busy a=
t 11:30, so I am moving the start time to 10:30, ending at 11:30.</div><div=
><br></div><div>I booked Butterworth, which is where the OAuth 2.1 meeting =
was today.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 2:21 PM Dick Hardt &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Let me know if you are interested=C2=A0in joining an informal txau=
th discussion tomorrow at 11AM. We may get lunch afterwards. We may have a =
followup on Friday.<div><br></div><div>/Dick<br><div><br></div></div></div>
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Thank you Dick and Justin for arranging the meeting. Please respond if I misquoted you or omitted something big.

 

 

Agenda
What do we do now
Extend, create a new one, both 
Dig into proposal
Charter - existing OAuth charter very specific, maybe roll back? Leif: this is easy

Justin: good reasons to have it a small, well scoped WG

Torsten: TLS/IPsec did not spin up a new WG

Leif: a design team would be seen as going around the WG

Annabelle: doing it in the WG would drag it back into the OAuth cruft, litigation re: transition story, could easily fall back into a 2.1.

Torsten: for sure will not be backward compatible.

Justin: OIDC is another example of a separate group. Brian: did not start that way.

Leif: design teams sometimes get push back (perception of WG impersonating as a design team)

Dick: important to have a focused mailing list

Justin: new use cases, not the same implementors

Annabelle: but still same community

Yann: current proposal doesn't look like a "version", similar to the difference with SAML.

Justin: maybe it's not even OAuth.

Dick: eventually new deployments will use the new protocol.

Annabelle: is there a major scope change?

Justin: Roman would like to see scope, charter

Justin will craft a charter proposal with Roman, will post to the list. Charter can be a WG charter or a paragraph in the OAuth WG charter

DID: will probably fall into a separate doc. Handles: some of them may need to be renamed. "Alias"?

Return code hashes: adds security to the client, to deal with session fixation, phishing issues. 

Could use HTTP2 sessions instead of polling - but is it a second way to do the same thing. HTTP2 is still not viable as a mandatory way. Does HTTP2 know how to cover from a RCP reset?

Torsten: by the time we're there we will have HTTP2. Similar to a discussion we had in the past on whether OAuth would require TLS. 

Leif: are we duplicating transport level security mechanisms (vs. HTTP2+TLS)?

Decouple from transport? Justin: no. Specificity to transport needs to be part of the charter.

Possibly targeting "UMA 3".

Set up virtual interims before Vancouver.

Torsten: need a scope, use cases, and architecture.

 


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 OAuth charter very specific, maybe roll back? Leif: this is easy<o:p></o:p>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Justin: good reasons to have it a small, well scoped =
WG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Torsten: TLS/IPsec did <i>not</i> spin u=
p a new WG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Leif: a design team would be see=
n as going around the WG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Annabelle: doing i=
t in the WG would drag it back into the OAuth cruft, litigation re: transiti=
on story, could easily fall back into a 2.1.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l>Torsten: for sure will not be backward compatible.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal>Justin: OIDC is another example of a separate group. Brian: did no=
t start that way.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Leif: design teams someti=
mes get push back (perception of WG impersonating as a design team)<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dick: important to have a focused mailing list<o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Justin: new use cases, not the same implementor=
s<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Annabelle: but still same community<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yann: current proposal doesn't look like a &quot=
;version&quot;, similar to the difference with SAML.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal>Justin: maybe it's not even OAuth.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l>Dick: eventually new deployments will use the new protocol.<o:p></o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Annabelle: is there a major scope change?<o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>Justin: Roman would like to see scope, charter<o:p></o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Justin will craft a charter proposal with Roman, will =
post to the list. Charter can be a WG charter <i>or</i> a paragraph in the O=
Auth WG charter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>DID: will probably fall int=
o a separate doc. Handles: some of them may need to be renamed. &quot;Alias&=
quot;?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Return code hashes: adds security to=
 the client, to deal with session fixation, phishing issues. <o:p></o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Could use HTTP2 sessions instead of polling - but is it a=
 second way to do the same thing. HTTP2 is still not viable as a mandatory w=
ay. Does HTTP2 know how to cover from a RCP reset?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal>Torsten: by the time we're there we will have HTTP2. Similar to a di=
scussion we had in the past on whether OAuth would require TLS. <o:p></o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Leif: are we duplicating transport level security mech=
anisms (vs. HTTP2+TLS)?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Decouple from trans=
port? Justin: no. Specificity to transport needs to be part of the charter.<=
o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Possibly targeting &quot;UMA 3&quot;.<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Set up virtual interims before Vancouver.<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Torsten: need a scope, use cases, and architectur=
e.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html=
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I wanted to thank everyone who came out to the BoF and side meetings =
this week in Singapore. We had some fantastic discussion, and it was =
great to hear several different perspectives. I=E2=80=99m pretty excited =
by the possibilities, and we=E2=80=99ve got our work cut out for us.

The biggest thing that we need to do right now is figure out what we =
want to do. We need to figure out a scope for the work, a set of =
problems we care about solving, and a rough idea of the architecture of =
solutions that we=E2=80=99re interested in. These boundaries are hard to =
define a lot of the time, but it=E2=80=99s going to be key for us to do =
good work going forward. On top of that, we=E2=80=99ll have to figure =
out where and how we=E2=80=99re going to do this work, since we=E2=80=99ve=
 got a few procedural options.

With that in mind, as we discussed here in person, I will put together a =
strawman charter for new work and get that out to the list for us to =
start hashing on it, though that=E2=80=99s likely to land after the =
Thanksgiving holiday in the US next week.=20

As a reminder, we=E2=80=99ve also agreed to have the discussions on this =
work here on the TxAuth list, regardless of whether it lands as a new WG =
or as some adjunct to OAuth.=20

I=E2=80=99m looking forward to working with all of you!

 =E2=80=94 Justin=


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I=E2=80=99ve written up my thoughts following the IETF meeting in a blog =
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https://medium.com/@justinsecurity/the-case-for-oauth-3-0-5c7537e3f9c3 =
<https://medium.com/@justinsecurity/the-case-for-oauth-3-0-5c7537e3f9c3>

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