From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Tue Mar 4 05:45:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50783A6C2E for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:45:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=1, J_CHICKENPOX_14=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wFmBeAEN6Fbr for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0731E3A6B9D for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JWXQd-0007dd-J7 for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:43:35 +0000 Received: from wiggum.w3.org ([128.30.52.23]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JWXQc-0007aR-8m for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:43:34 +0000 Received: from nobody by wiggum.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1JWXQc-000646-7S for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:43:34 +0000 Received: from aji.w3.org ([133.27.228.225]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JWTpl-0003Da-VR for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:53:18 +0000 Received: from smtp-1.dlr.de ([195.37.61.185]) by aji.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JWTpc-0005N0-NE for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:53:16 +0000 Received: from exbe02.intra.dlr.de ([192.168.35.34]) by smtp-1.dlr.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:52:48 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C87DDD.7468BEE1" Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:52:26 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ACID-transaction on a set of files over WebDAV? Thread-Index: Ach93XP6lwoEOUp2Rei8Zm7YwdgwzA== From: To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2008 09:52:48.0667 (UTC) FILETIME=[8110DEB0:01C87DDD] Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: aji.w3.org 1JWTpc-0005N0-NE d9278c1c6b60dbef13a120ad8c0e7518 X-caa-id: b5d41531410f39ceda6e X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: ACID-transaction on a set of files over WebDAV? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12817 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:43:35 +0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C87DDD.7468BEE1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, =20 i search for a standard way (not the proprietary MS methods) to use a = ACID-transaction on a set of files over WebDAV. =20 Like=20 start TA get file a get file b put file a=20 put file b end TA. =20 My idea was (like in Subversion documentation or in the WebDAV book from = Lisa Dusseault), to use the DeltaV resource type activity with = server-side workspace, to group changes together to a single = transaction.=20 =20 Is this the right way to use transaction over WebDAV? =20 Is there any standard implementation for that?=20 =20 Is there a spec/papers for transactions over WebDAV? =20 Thank you for your Help. =20 Best regards =20 Martin =20 =20 --=20 Martin Jung master student =20 DLR (German Aerospace Center),=20 Simulation and Software Technology Linder Hoehe, 51147 Cologne, Germany =20 eMail: m.jung at dlr.de http://www.dlr.de/sc ------_=_NextPart_001_01C87DDD.7468BEE1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

 

i search for a standard way (not the proprietary MS = methods) to use a ACID-transaction on a set of files over WebDAV.

 

Like

start TA

=A0get file a

=A0get file b

=A0put file a

=A0put file b

end TA.

 

My idea was (like in Subversion documentation or in the = WebDAV book from Lisa Dusseault), to use the DeltaV resource type activity with server-side workspace, to group changes together to a single = transaction.

 

Is this the right way to use transaction over = WebDAV?

 

Is there any standard implementation for that? =

 

Is there a spec/papers for transactions over = WebDAV?

 

Thank you for your Help.

 

Best regards

 

Martin

 

 

--

Martin Jung

master student

 

DLR (German Aerospace Center),

Simulation and Software Technology

Linder Hoehe, 51147 = Cologne, Germany

 

eMail: m.jung at dlr.de=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 http://www.dlr.de/sc

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http://michellehernandez359164.blogspot.com ------------E29CA4F0CAB4F21-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Sat Mar 15 04:01:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD313A69DA for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:01:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.946 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.946 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.653, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZMHr3s+x8tUG for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87E63A6CA6 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JaU4C-0000q7-2X for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:56:44 +0000 Received: from aji.w3.org ([133.27.228.225]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JaU4A-0000pM-Sg for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:56:43 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by aji.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JaU41-0004Zk-VJ for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:56:42 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Mar 2008 10:55:57 -0000 Received: from p508F9603.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.150.3] by mail.gmx.net (mp043) with SMTP; 15 Mar 2008 11:55:57 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/eSyJOAAbe4922yWz5JvMtOKyw3FygIRUNIdragu BrMOkaWnhWsiOe Message-ID: <47DBAB30.1060306@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:55:44 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vcarddav@ietf.org, WebDAV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: aji.w3.org 1JaU41-0004Zk-VJ b5c3f2471f6c5bf3b6cf540618bfbb1b X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Thoughts on relation to WebDAV Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12818 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:56:44 +0000 Hi, here are a few thoughts about how to handle the WebDAV dependencies of CardDAV (mostly based on what was discussed in the VCARDDAV WG meeting in Philadelphia): 1) WebDAV base requirements I think CardDAV should require WebDAV level 3 support, as defined by RFC 4918. It seems there was some confusion about what level 3 actually is: although 3 > 2, 3 does *not* include locking, it's just level 1 plus a few RFC 4918 extensions. And yes, it would be really great if Apache mod_dav would incorporate these few extensions. 2) Extended MKCOL, Reporting, Syncing There are several things where CardDAV would benefit from generic WebDAV extensions, most of which are covered by Cyrus' proposals: - using MKCOL to create "special" collections (instead of inventing new methods all the time) () - potentially extract the REPORT method definition from RFC3253, and move it into a separate spec, including clarifications - enhancements for syncing; Cyrus has proposed a new REPORT for this (); I think we should try come up with a more generic solution to the GET-unfriendliness of PROPFIND and REPORT ( and ). 3) Where to discuss I think it would be great if we would discuss everything that is not strictly related to CardDAV on the WebDAV mailing list (it's still an IETF mailing list, after all). This would help us to avoid introducing special solutions where generic solutions are needed. These specifications still could be working group items; I'm neutral on whether they need to be, as long as they are developed in an open way, and get the necessary attention from the IESG when done (hint, hint). 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(v2.00) Business Reply-To: nirgargimediajyl@gargimedia.com X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <305856898.38237334610449@gargimedia.com> To: uri-review-request@ietf.org Subject: Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------21780555C1E4BFD" ------------21780555C1E4BFD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In search for the best value in software abatements? This time you will obtain the chance to have the softs you dreamt of for a long time. And the best matter is, all softwares are of awfully low value. Confirm by youself and take the softwares for cheapest rates! http://angeliaforbessho205.blogspot.com ------------21780555C1E4BFD Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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http://angeliaforbessho205.blogspot.com ------------21780555C1E4BFD-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Wed Mar 19 12:28:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161F23A6C50 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:28:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZfV5Xk+3h41b for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4826E3A6ACC for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jc3tS-0000cK-I9 for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:24:10 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jc3tR-0000bg-Jd for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:24:09 +0000 Received: from smtp8.server.rpi.edu ([128.113.2.228]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jc3tL-0002eE-Cp for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:24:09 +0000 Received: from [128.113.124.156] (crustacean-27.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.124.156]) by smtp8.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m2JJNXEP016966 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:23:33 -0400 Message-ID: <47E16835.6090702@rpi.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:23:33 -0400 From: Mike Douglass User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WebDAV X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam scanning disabled X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.228 Received-SPF: none X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1Jc3tL-0002eE-Cp e19887581079a9982ec658018a72b477 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: BIND and cross-server binds Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12819 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:24:10 +0000 Rather late to the list I'm afraid... Cyrus pointed out this draft to me in relation to some issues with CalDAV and it seemed it would offer a solution to some practical difficulties we ran into with the use of CalDAV - how do we make users subscriptions appear in a CalDAV client. The solution I was looking at was essentially some form of alias scheme which would allow us to implant an alias to a resource in the users calendar hierarchy. This works for shred calendars on the same system and will work fine for shared calendars on any other system except that it's unlikely they are going to tell us that the resource has been deleted - nor do they care there is a link to that resource e.g. google. Given that the server can behave perfectly reasonably in the event that a targetted resource has gone missing why was it felt necessary to require that the targetted server a) know about all such bindings and b) inform the targetting servers? And if I implement BIND such that it simply treats the target as empty or non-existant how would anybody know different? By which I mean wouldn't it be better to define the response if a targetted resource disappears or becomes unavailable? The conditions as laid out in draft 20 seem to make this feature unusable for many purposes -- Mike Douglass douglm@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer Communication & Collaboration Technologies 518 276 6780(voice) 2809 (fax) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180 From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Wed Mar 19 12:50:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAA728C3AD for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:50:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.398 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.398 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.201, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rmd5W4GV8QTr for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E8A28C363 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jc4GM-0001VM-EN for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:47:50 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jc4GL-0001Uh-M1 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:47:49 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jc4GB-0004Wk-Bv for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:47:49 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Mar 2008 19:47:08 -0000 Received: from p508F9A98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.154.152] by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 19 Mar 2008 20:47:08 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/INjFdy83ImmSpi/3bEiolmqIiPANr9N+86e2YjY t65/w+HEtRE2KI Message-ID: <47E16DB9.9020404@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:47:05 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Douglass CC: WebDAV References: <47E16835.6090702@rpi.edu> In-Reply-To: <47E16835.6090702@rpi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1Jc4GB-0004Wk-Bv 3287f130d0706a30c0b4c5b984bfe7bd X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: BIND and cross-server binds Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12820 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:47:50 +0000 Mike Douglass wrote: > > Rather late to the list I'm afraid... > > Cyrus pointed out this draft to me in relation to some issues with > CalDAV and it seemed it would offer a solution to some practical > difficulties we ran into with the use of CalDAV - how do we make users > subscriptions appear in a CalDAV client. > > The solution I was looking at was essentially some form of alias scheme > which would allow us to implant an alias to a resource in the users > calendar hierarchy. This works for shred calendars on the same system > and will work fine for shared calendars on any other system except that > it's unlikely they are going to tell us that the resource has been > deleted - nor do they care there is a link to that resource e.g. google. > > Given that the server can behave perfectly reasonably in the event that > a targetted resource has gone missing why was it felt necessary to > require that the targetted server a) know about all such bindings and b) > inform the targetting servers? Well, for BIND we assumed people want referential integrity. Maybe you should look at redirect reference resources? () > And if I implement BIND such that it simply treats the target as empty > or non-existant how would anybody know different? By which I mean > wouldn't it be better to define the response if a targetted resource > disappears or becomes unavailable? The conditions as laid out in draft > 20 seem to make this feature unusable for many purposes I'm not entirely sure what you mean... Could you provide an example? 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( [212.209.62.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm7972998fga.2.2008.03.25.02.48.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47E8CA5E.6000505@witsbits.com> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:48:14 +0100 From: Henrik Holst Reply-To: henrik@witsbits.com Organization: Render Planet AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1Je5lr-00041q-GW 7e04aff07a26656c484b0f5fdc0bd660 X-caa-id: 6c86a905094346175752 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: How to handle PROPFIND request with empty element? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12822 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:41:19 +0000 Hi, according to RFC4918 one should treat empty PROPFIND requests like an request, but how should one handle a PROPFIND request which is not empty but have an empty element like: Should this also be treated as an request or should we reply with say "412 Precondition Failed" or some other error reply? Sincerely yours, Henrik Holst From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Fri Mar 28 12:10:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437713A6FE0 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:10:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HpqI96x-Es2n for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B04A3A7045 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JfJs5-0006ay-7q for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:04:13 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JfJs4-0006aI-8I for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:04:12 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JfJry-0000CQ-El for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:04:11 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Mar 2008 19:03:35 -0000 Received: from p508FB422.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.180.34] by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 28 Mar 2008 20:03:35 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/v3fZD0kXv/UNYVLFg8bUQp7QDgy90UQBTaQByrp U+UOp2hqbNw4Uu Message-ID: <47ED4104.8040803@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:03:32 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: henrik@witsbits.com CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <47E8CA5E.6000505@witsbits.com> In-Reply-To: <47E8CA5E.6000505@witsbits.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1JfJry-0000CQ-El 0c0c96dc21c85394073ea6357673f01a X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: How to handle PROPFIND request with empty element? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12823 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:04:13 +0000 Henrik Holst wrote: > Hi, > > according to RFC4918 one should treat empty PROPFIND requests like an > request, but how should one handle a PROPFIND request which is > not empty but have an empty element like: > > > > > > > Should this also be treated as an request or should we reply > with say "412 Precondition Failed" or some other error reply? It's invalid, as should contain a child element specifying the property. Thus, it seems that status 422 makes sense. Note that 412 has a very specific semantic that doesn't apply here. And yes, it's unfortunate that there's no really simple way to just get the children of a collection; when I needed this, I usually asked for DAV:resourcetype, as this is known to exist on every resource, and should be cheap to compute. BR, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Sat Mar 29 20:23:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4C93A6B99 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:23:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CPBA9fqGFnIy for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027EB3A6A54 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jfo6r-00063I-LK for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:21:29 +0000 Received: from farnsworth.w3.org ([128.30.52.43]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jfo6o-0005zc-3J for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:21:26 +0000 Received: from nobody by farnsworth.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jfo6n-0007tq-VA for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:21:25 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JfKGx-0007D2-Ob for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:29:55 +0000 Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca ([206.123.31.2]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JfKGr-00015t-QJ for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:29:55 +0000 Received: from ringo.viagenie.ca (ringo.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:c000::67]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645B529E1481 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:29:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Simon Perreault Organization: =?iso-8859-1?q?Viag=E9nie?= To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:29:22 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <47E8CA5E.6000505@witsbits.com> <47ED4104.8040803@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <47ED4104.8040803@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803281529.22193.simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1JfKGr-00015t-QJ d43733ac8ba7cfdc7fc22de91eae1b6d X-caa-id: a8d13e276839bc23e23f X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: How to handle PROPFIND request with empty element? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12824 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:21:29 +0000 On Friday 28 March 2008 15:03:32 Julian Reschke wrote: > It's invalid, as should contain a child element specifying the > property. Did you find any text supporting that? Here's the DTD excerpt: The XML spec isn't very clear on whether ANY may match an empty tag or not. I couldn't find out for sure, but I would expect that it may. From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Sun Mar 30 02:27:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EC63A6C73 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:27:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id StHZAcPfrWKJ for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4AE3A6BA1 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JftnN-0005Ej-3O for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:25:45 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JftnM-0005D5-5b for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:25:44 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by lisa.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JftnF-00037i-7V for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:25:42 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Mar 2008 09:25:03 -0000 Received: from p508FB281.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.178.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp050) with SMTP; 30 Mar 2008 11:25:03 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Vhes+WgZV7UlVKZyexm6akOOkQFPMP7F1ICLOuS plR22KyxXPIaMh Message-ID: <47EF5C6A.70809@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:24:58 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Perreault CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <47E8CA5E.6000505@witsbits.com> <47ED4104.8040803@gmx.de> <200803281529.22193.simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <200803281529.22193.simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1JftnF-00037i-7V e03f587441c041d69faa1e91dbe6d215 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: How to handle PROPFIND request with empty element? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12825 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:25:45 +0000 Simon Perreault wrote: > On Friday 28 March 2008 15:03:32 Julian Reschke wrote: >> It's invalid, as should contain a child element specifying the >> property. > > Did you find any text supporting that? Here's the DTD excerpt: > > > > The XML spec isn't very clear on whether ANY may match an empty tag or not. I > couldn't find out for sure, but I would expect that it may. No, the DTD can't express the constraint. But consider: "Request particular property values, by naming the properties desired within the 'prop' element (the ordering of properties in here MAY be ignored by the server)," -- and "Contains properties related to a resource." -- I'm pretty sure that there's code out there that will fail if is empty. BR, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Sun Mar 30 05:01:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3EA3A6AF1 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:01:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id peVK9zi1rJaU for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ADA3A6C90 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JfwC6-0003Yu-5m for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:59:26 +0000 Received: from aji.w3.org ([133.27.228.225]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JfwC5-0003YG-4B for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:59:25 +0000 Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca ([206.123.31.2]) by aji.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JfwBx-0001lN-VQ for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:59:24 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ip216-239-74-237.vif.net [216.239.74.237]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1994429E1460 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:58:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Simon Perreault Organization: =?utf-8?q?Viag=C3=A9nie?= To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:58:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <47E8CA5E.6000505@witsbits.com> <200803281529.22193.simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> <47EF5C6A.70809@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <47EF5C6A.70809@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803300758.48536.simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: aji.w3.org 1JfwBx-0001lN-VQ d748a7e595cf7d106fd691c051683326 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: How to handle PROPFIND request with empty element? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12826 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:59:26 +0000 On Sunday 30 March 2008 05:24:58 Julian Reschke wrote: > I'm pretty sure that there's code out there that will fail if is > empty. I was just wondering if there was a use case for a PROPFIND on no properties at all (i.e. not having an empty PROPFIND behave as if had been specified). I guess not... From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Sun Mar 30 05:34:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F34A3A6CFB for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:34:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oDNmqGb4AA87 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A595C3A6B94 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jfwix-00057q-6H for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:33:23 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jfwiw-00057A-Ee for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:33:22 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by lisa.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jfwir-0001wQ-6l for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:33:22 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Mar 2008 12:32:44 -0000 Received: from p508FB281.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.178.129] by mail.gmx.net (mp051) with SMTP; 30 Mar 2008 14:32:44 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19KEGZBO+xKCDw3o7neAsURqvfODErHW+AJFCz8o+ 9Tclpp7Nu+7Ur0 Message-ID: <47EF8866.30109@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:32:38 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Perreault CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <47E8CA5E.6000505@witsbits.com> <200803281529.22193.simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> <47EF5C6A.70809@gmx.de> <200803300758.48536.simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <200803300758.48536.simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1Jfwir-0001wQ-6l a54278f2616ac0f2d19e7f284b25e5de X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: How to handle PROPFIND request with empty element? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12827 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:33:23 +0000 Simon Perreault wrote: > On Sunday 30 March 2008 05:24:58 Julian Reschke wrote: >> I'm pretty sure that there's code out there that will fail if is >> empty. > > I was just wondering if there was a use case for a PROPFIND on no properties > at all (i.e. not having an empty PROPFIND behave as if had been > specified). I guess not... Well, there is: when you really want to only list the collection membership, but not any properties of the members. BR, Julian From johnmark5@freenet.de Sun Mar 30 14:54:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E40D28C1FF for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:54:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.709 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.709 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_32=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_74=0.6, US_DOLLARS_3=0.63] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RgLkCrAklbAg for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:3]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272CA28C1EF for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.4.92.17] (helo=7.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jg5Sk-0002ZW-89; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:53:14 +0200 Received: from web3.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.236]:37275) by 7.mx.freenet.de with esmtp (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1Jg5Sk-000056-3y; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:53:14 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=emo.freenet.de) by web3.emo.freenet-rz.de with esmtp (Exim 4.67 1 (Panther_1)) id 1Jg5S1-0006Wf-6B; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:52:29 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:52:29 +0200 From: johnmark5@freenet.de Subject: NOTE To: johnmark5@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Abuse: 716596653 / 41.223.251.237 Message-Id: User-Agent: freenetMail Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="emo_01_01360c42b809c12a853629f2c70d369c" --emo_01_01360c42b809c12a853629f2c70d369c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dearest Friend=0A =0A The money was moved under the co-operation of a new partner from Japan.Presently,I\'m in South Korea for the purpose of investing my own share of the money.=0A=0A Meanwhile I did\'nt forget your past efforts and attempts in assisting me to move the cash even though we were not successful.So feel free and contact my Secetray, Mr.Isaac Nnamdi, and give him instructions on where to send the sum of (US$1,500,000.00) one million five hundred thousand United Sates Dollars=0A=0A which I kept as acompensation for all your past efforts. 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=0A=0A --emo_01_01360c42b809c12a853629f2c70d369c-- From johnmark5@freenet.de Sun Mar 30 16:33:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170C128C21F for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:33:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.709 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.709 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_32=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_74=0.6, US_DOLLARS_3=0.63] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mW995+YQ13dj for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout2.freenet.de (mout2.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:4]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF05D3A6CE6 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jg70b-0003Qw-2U; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:32:17 +0200 Received: from web2.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.235]:33604) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtp (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1Jg70a-0007Ex-Vu; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:32:16 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=emo.freenet.de) by web2.emo.freenet-rz.de with esmtp (Exim 4.67 1 (Panther_1)) id 1Jg6zl-0005XE-Uf; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:31:26 +0200 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:31:25 +0200 From: johnmark5@freenet.de Subject: NOTE To: johnmark5@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Abuse: 716596653 / 41.223.251.237 Message-Id: <7d905e5dede6888c78455442c4507e92@email.freenet.de> User-Agent: freenetMail Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="emo_01_f0775418c78eab1119725ea8e23a470d" --emo_01_f0775418c78eab1119725ea8e23a470d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dearest Friend=0A=0AThe money was moved under the co-operation of a new partner from Japan.Presently,I\'m in South Korea for the purpose of investing my own share of the money.=0A=0AMeanwhile I did\'nt forget your past efforts and attempts in assisting me to move the cash even though we were not successful.So feel free and contact my Secetray, Mr.Isaac Nnamdi, and give him instructions on where to send the sum of (US$1,500,000.00) one million five hundred thousand United Sates Dollars=0A=0Awhich I kept as acompensation for all your past efforts. Pleas= e let me know immediately you recieve it, Finally,note that your phone number is needed, therefore send your phone number=0Ato him.=0A=0AName of m= y secretary Mr.Isaac Nnamdi=0AEmail below:( secretary_isaac8@yahoo.fr )=0A=0Aphone + 229- 931-649-00.=0ABest regards,=0AMr John Micheal=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AUnbegrenzter Speicher, Top-Spamschutz, 120 SMS = und eigene E-MailDomain inkl.=0Ahttp://office.freenet.de/dienste/emailoffice/produktuebersicht/powe= r/mail/index.html=0A --emo_01_f0775418c78eab1119725ea8e23a470d Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageHello Dearest Friend

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which I kept as acompensation for all your past efforts. Please let me know immediately you recieve it, Finally,note that your phone number is needed, therefore send your phone number
to him.

Name of my secretary Mr.Isaac Nnamdi
Email below:( secretary_isaac8@yahoo.fr )

phone + 229- 931-649-00.
Best regards,
Mr John Micheal





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=0A=0A --emo_01_f0775418c78eab1119725ea8e23a470d-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Tue Apr 1 08:28:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2107D3A6F7E for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:28:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e+SCap6S87-k for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D7E28C5E1 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JgiMj-0000hB-FK for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:25:37 +0000 Received: from farnsworth.w3.org ([128.30.52.43]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JgiMh-0000fX-OZ for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:25:35 +0000 Received: from nobody by farnsworth.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JgiMh-0007N5-L7 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:25:35 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JgYaK-0000u0-0N for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:59:00 +0000 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]) by lisa.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JgYZ2-0006cY-BD for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:57:45 +0000 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id h31so2249349pyc.23 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:57:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=pw3DLSVefRWGO35k5kHBIntTSeE9f2uatPGrs8+UogY=; b=Jh6qIqYni/Y4OSYwbXZpDwsrqBez3X00dImDguVcADumVHZSxN9HueH8gpX5X7AeFjd9M9fYWrL6KSHre/gfnEqjiN3RUJCUpH0vswWYzqVLQCkqVjB/whNVVLGWayAGLyFV5GMVmWiHkDxh9t5fCgzMYCcCG4Fxbxns2Cu2LAw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=tDV8OnD/R6ZUc/h1WeRdI47IZShrHhE9r0P5adtUPyCZFDFzKd8D79Tzd+VbFkGOx1FR462WUuAXV2L2N2XOKMl7Of/l2W0XlUTvRIL84KEQ+rkKzdfoE6BRhIGLBctOj+QUfuW8CBXrBoQHW5kdoQtuYPcDj97t0XQGCcV+VTo= Received: by 10.65.211.16 with SMTP id n16mr15659488qbq.50.1207025833481; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from evertbook.local ( [99.233.30.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a29sm6075564qbd.4.2008.03.31.21.57.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47F1C0A7.8080502@rooftopsolutions.nl> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:57:11 -0400 From: Evert | Rooftop User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1JgYZ2-0006cY-BD ef4d05e1d64f6b0194b2cba1c56329eb X-caa-id: c0fe6f5456b783dae2d3 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Implementing litmus lock test 18 Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12828 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:25:37 +0000 Dear List, I'm a WebDAV server implementor, and relying heavily on litmus to tell me if I'm on the right track. I'm stuck on test 18: cond_put_corrupt_token With the relevant header : If: () (Not ) I believe, judging from "WebDAV Next-Generation.. well I'm sure you've heard of it.." that this should be interpreted as : If (false OR true) and thus allowing the PUT request.. Litmus however reports: FAIL (conditional PUT with invalid lock-token should fail: 200 Ok) I'm hoping someone on this list can help me out =) Thanks a lot, Evert From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Tue Apr 1 08:46:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7A83A68E7 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MjisOKqegKNu for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1284B3A6C60 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgifl-0002Jy-Hc for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:45:17 +0000 Received: from aji.w3.org ([133.27.228.225]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgifj-0002FD-K4 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:45:15 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by aji.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JgifY-0001DD-HU for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:45:14 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Apr 2008 15:44:28 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.117]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 01 Apr 2008 17:44:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18shzZE6zAso9fxrwkGuxrLg/sUi8zzf/asjDrEss 5laNfVQ4dNZeiQ Message-ID: <47F25856.5010508@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:44:22 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evert | Rooftop CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <47F1C0A7.8080502@rooftopsolutions.nl> In-Reply-To: <47F1C0A7.8080502@rooftopsolutions.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: aji.w3.org 1JgifY-0001DD-HU 7c915b83913c7930cdcd4fd7dbdefca0 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Implementing litmus lock test 18 Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12829 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:45:17 +0000 Evert | Rooftop wrote: > > Dear List, > > I'm a WebDAV server implementor, and relying heavily on litmus to tell > me if I'm on the right track. > > I'm stuck on test 18: cond_put_corrupt_token > > With the relevant header : > > If: () (Not > ) > > I believe, judging from "WebDAV Next-Generation.. well I'm sure you've > heard of it.." that this should be interpreted as : > If (false OR true) and thus allowing the PUT request.. > > Litmus however reports: FAIL (conditional PUT with invalid lock-token > should fail: 200 Ok) > > I'm hoping someone on this list can help me out =) Looking at the test, the assumption is that the If header indeed evaluates to true, but then the PUT request is rejected with 423 Locked, as the If header did not contain the required lock token. Keep in mind that for the PUT to succeed on a locked request, the If header not only needs to evaluate to true, but also needs to contain all required lock tokens. Hope this helps, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Tue Apr 1 08:57:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664633A6C60 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:57:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ueAaYRh2sAuG for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34E928C236 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgir7-000827-8r for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:57:01 +0000 Received: from farnsworth.w3.org ([128.30.52.43]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgir6-00081N-Jt for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:57:00 +0000 Received: from nobody by farnsworth.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgir6-0002ne-Hk for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:57:00 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgiq5-0007vM-II for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:55:57 +0000 Received: from smtp0.beanfield.net ([66.207.192.7]) by lisa.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgipk-00018G-FL for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:55:51 +0000 Received: from 206-223-184-73.beanfield.net (206-223-184-73.beanfield.net [206.223.184.73]) by smtp0.beanfield.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m31FruIe072832; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:53:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from evert@rooftopsolutions.nl) Message-ID: <47F25A9A.4090801@rooftopsolutions.nl> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:54:02 -0400 From: Evert | Rooftop User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Reschke CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <47F1C0A7.8080502@rooftopsolutions.nl> <47F25856.5010508@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <47F25856.5010508@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: none X-SPF-Guess: neutral X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1Jgipk-00018G-FL de18b79aaf1245ac85650730de17d9ce X-caa-id: 13d0268f68eea7f5ce3f X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Implementing litmus lock test 18 Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12830 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:57:01 +0000 Julian Reschke wrote: > > > Looking at the test, the assumption is that the If header indeed > evaluates to true, but then the PUT request is rejected with 423 > Locked, as the If header did not contain the required lock token. > > Keep in mind that for the PUT to succeed on a locked request, the If > header not only needs to evaluate to true, but also needs to contain > all required lock tokens. > > Hope this helps, It did! Thanks a million =)