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(CPE001cf05d461e-CM0018689934a4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [173.34.101.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p31sm23899101qbp.18.2008.11.04.19.10.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:10:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Evert | Rooftop To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-118-586797891; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:10:17 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1KxZIE-0001To-3r f61dbf21cc8f6a2141f96b8e95f7338c X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: delete & unlock on previously locked resources Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13036 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:43:05 +0000 --Apple-Mail-118-586797891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Guys, Litmus 0.12 added tests for locking unmapped urls. One of the tests is failing for me, and I have a feeling it might be a bug in litmus, so I wanted to ask here.. test 38: unmapped_lock * LOCK /litmus/unmapped_url (i respond with 201 Created) * DELETE /litmus/unmapped_url (i respond with 204 No Content) test 39: unlock * UNLOCK /litmus/unmapped_url I fail the last unlock with 412 Precondition failed Would 412 be the correct response in this case? Thanks! 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Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:10:20 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Nov 2008 09:09:36 -0000 Received: from p508FC64A.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.198.74] by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 05 Nov 2008 10:09:36 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19vOCRW78RvVOP2Pz6F+HwZ+BN3JmNKAsNdEphEte rNtdThJMWo2GOA Message-ID: <491162CC.4040704@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:09:32 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evert | Rooftop CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1KxeOv-00025b-HE 6119e3cab2f58f83d21a60d9a7f8eb8b X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: delete & unlock on previously locked resources Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13037 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:10:22 +0000 Evert | Rooftop wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Litmus 0.12 added tests for locking unmapped urls. One of the tests is > failing for me, and I have a feeling it might be a bug in litmus, so I > wanted to ask here.. > > test 38: unmapped_lock > * LOCK /litmus/unmapped_url (i respond with 201 Created) > * DELETE /litmus/unmapped_url (i respond with 204 No Content) > > test 39: unlock > * UNLOCK /litmus/unmapped_url > > I fail the last unlock with 412 Precondition failed > ... Shouldn't that be a 404? Please post the full trace (a 412 is only correct if there's a conditional header involved). BR, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Wed Nov 5 07:21:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5A528C101 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:21:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zxdmBhFg+F5F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383403A68C0 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxkBN-00009d-N9 for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:20:33 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.63]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxkBK-00008u-JX for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:20:30 +0000 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.156]) by bart.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxkBB-0002SN-3e for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:20:30 -0500 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so17282ywm.26 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:19:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer:sender; bh=DCrdecIdZXNMo9bLdaHDDDQAqLAYX6MuwKAmTwNAeAk=; b=p4rr3flTdquTrHMQmS2q9zMBhjnQ+kbCEJR1xVwXqq8JWAORuQGDvdMdAKCz1fsIDv uVVlfDpu1F0xfULfcDjNLgl6Ra2iI/oRGMAiHCu0N7I4fARkeubPiSkeyNwe2mbgysG/ hlJPgOlYv+86UMwfpXa44z21YoUPeHJxBOT5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer:sender; b=Ej3fIWU0ipFJPfcJ3FdbNXwi5jbrOwKu33H+SmxfI1SDNsnDUTt4vqku6TtsN5URbf 6EBsuMV2MLFpGgNyKJhRegyPuZiDQZEYi0L6NHPmV+zwlG73iRNo49wqkuzsPleDDZCc lAQ56f0Yv2iuIo8KtNNTyJnOOSDxJSh2HPc7o= Received: by 10.65.72.7 with SMTP id z7mr818258qbk.43.1225898371301; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from 206-223-184-75.beanfield.net (206-223-184-75.beanfield.net [206.223.184.75]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s35sm25133696qbs.13.2008.11.05.07.19.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:19:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Message-Id: From: Evert | Rooftop To: Julian Reschke In-Reply-To: <491162CC.4040704@gmx.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-288-630547992; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:27 -0500 References: <491162CC.4040704@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1KxkBB-0002SN-3e b05acd6d6e10a782a725dd47385d0bd2 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: delete & unlock on previously locked resources Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13038 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:20:33 +0000 --Apple-Mail-288-630547992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5-Nov-08, at 4:09 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > > Evert | Rooftop wrote: >> Hi Guys, >> Litmus 0.12 added tests for locking unmapped urls. One of the tests >> is failing for me, and I have a feeling it might be a bug in >> litmus, so I wanted to ask here.. >> test 38: unmapped_lock >> * LOCK /litmus/unmapped_url (i respond with 201 Created) >> * DELETE /litmus/unmapped_url (i respond with 204 No Content) >> test 39: unlock >> * UNLOCK /litmus/unmapped_url >> I fail the last unlock with 412 Precondition failed >> ... > > Shouldn't that be a 404? > > Please post the full trace (a 412 is only correct if there's a > conditional header involved). > > BR, Julian > A 404 makes more sense, but that also made the litmus test fail. Here are the relevant headers (took out the unneeded stuff) LOCK /litmus/unmapped_url HTTP/1.1 Depth: 0 Timeout: Second-3600 litmus test suite HTTP/1.1 201 Created Lock-Token: opaquelocktoken:44445502-4fdd-85ab-b7ea-4f2b040acaac 0 Second-1800 opaquelocktoken:44445502-4fdd-85ab-b7ea-4f2b040acaac litmus test suite DELETE /litmus/unmapped_url HTTP/1.1 If: () HTTP/1.1 204 No Content Now test 39 starts: UNLOCK /litmus/unmapped_url HTTP/1.1 Lock-Token: I both tried responding with a 404, and a 412. Both fail the litmus test. Would 404 be the appropriate response code here? 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Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:26:55 +0000 Received: from joe by mail.manyfish.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxkGs-0007HU-NG; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:26:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:26:14 +0000 From: Joe Orton To: Evert | Rooftop Cc: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Message-ID: <20081105152614.GA26978@manyfish.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Evert | Rooftop , w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Received-SPF: none X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1KxkHO-00027C-SL 3c2769d1876502cc98e0bf323d852ec3 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: delete & unlock on previously locked resources Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13039 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:26:58 +0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:10:17PM -0500, Evert | Rooftop wrote: > Litmus 0.12 added tests for locking unmapped urls. One of the tests is > failing for me, and I have a feeling it might be a bug in litmus, so I > wanted to ask here.. Hiya, yes, this is a litmus bug; it'll be fixed for the next release; see this thread: http://lists.manyfish.co.uk/pipermail/litmus/2008-October/000009.html Regards, Joe From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Wed Nov 5 07:31:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DD43A6925 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:31:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30gmhOM1LDp3 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:31:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362D63A63D2 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:31:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxkKz-0003KB-4o for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:30:29 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxkKy-0003Ds-3Y for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:30:28 +0000 Received: from smtp0.beanfield.net ([66.207.192.7]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxkKo-0002Hu-Rt for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:30:27 +0000 Received: from 206-223-184-75.beanfield.net (206-223-184-75.beanfield.net [206.223.184.75]) by smtp0.beanfield.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mA5FUD08063520; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:30:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from evert@rooftopsolutions.nl) Cc: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Message-Id: <8C823F5F-BC2C-4CCB-959D-EA17F4A547AF@rooftopsolutions.nl> From: Evert | Rooftop To: Joe Orton In-Reply-To: <20081105152614.GA26978@manyfish.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-10-631142295; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:29:21 -0500 References: <20081105152614.GA26978@manyfish.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Received-SPF: none X-SPF-Guess: neutral X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1KxkKo-0002Hu-Rt 33c0e6c354ce0249dd239f58b868bd10 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: delete & unlock on previously locked resources Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13040 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:30:29 +0000 --Apple-Mail-10-631142295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks a lot Joe, so just to confirm.. The appropriate response would be 404 here, right? Evert On 5-Nov-08, at 10:26 AM, Joe Orton wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:10:17PM -0500, Evert | Rooftop wrote: >> Litmus 0.12 added tests for locking unmapped urls. One of the tests >> is >> failing for me, and I have a feeling it might be a bug in litmus, >> so I >> wanted to ask here.. > > Hiya, yes, this is a litmus bug; it'll be fixed for the next release; > see this thread: > > http://lists.manyfish.co.uk/pipermail/litmus/2008-October/000009.html > > Regards, Joe > --Apple-Mail-10-631142295 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGMzCCAuww ggJVoAMCAQICECzcoIFIYhVIcv1/FEMS31MwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDkyOTE2NTYwNFoXDTA5MDkyOTE2NTYw NFowSzEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEoMCYGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYZZXZl cnRAcm9vZnRvcHNvbHV0aW9ucy5ubDCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBANAA uNKYeFjNsoqYE0P/V0fEg/zqh/NwYRElooZPK/6SOeFUircsLElhTxfzAwr8lA7e1mmS0+bDRPVU P91WPzHuwgKy3rfG8nEIaZph4YtrhHFBB+3p9gN4qHz94pUW/N2zyinErtj0ihi4Br3/bbvXj2Bl PbsIAfkKFVMZCFJWYM57N8BdRHUJWnYTRlxQNniX507NQlA1AgDazBnBiZfSXFxzeo+App1dkrFD FV2SPWu97uyZFEOQljcrsepVwgbKdoUWT01kFo7D5kQ+FdLt8RbmPyKmAjKQkR2YCzKHLM0ubKJx 5HsO5c/kE3lUi7GxcQw9AmaQi48E8RW94D0CAwEAAaM2MDQwJAYDVR0RBB0wG4EZZXZlcnRAcm9v ZnRvcHNvbHV0aW9ucy5ubDAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAKsftOrlLvHq GjaO7AWcV/QElOaR3JMAH1tCXiXPuL1jTmOUedCuPVjAs0fJ9Ig3CvwcmigLj8G+fC9Eqdsyjmha eQLYVU4Es39wsNmXk5Q9u1dWhGWjrzMMKr9Kqp9fPcV+DAmDsJaps5is0mVnU6bpr4B6FUWdKhuX u2gQw4SfMIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTAT BgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUg Q29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIG A1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25h bC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1OVowYjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNV BAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUA A4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAK MNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7 n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAw QwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJl ZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRl TGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9M Ibj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3hYWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowg T2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQGls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAxAwggMMAgEBMHYw YjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAq BgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhAs3KCBSGIVSHL9fxRD Et9TMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggFvMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkF MQ8XDTA4MTEwNTE1MjkyMlowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFJ1tDaXtaQjuEAAcSa2QY7IabMndMIGF BgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxeDB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGlu ZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBD QQIQLNyggUhiFUhy/X8UQxLfUzCBhwYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxeKB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUw IwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVy c29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQLNyggUhiFUhy/X8UQxLfUzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEF AASCAQC9gK7foUslVaxCIDlpagrH58C8OjOKqehrxP56J+Z8WtigD9uAPBbMCC+1a1oFm5jkWZ5K nsLRDsnA9ycluEBxzT+rZRB2D/KjttnUCK8orJKfoCjIA9h3bhmSnExDbUK4v+OfcGoTuT5ZXMfX Epmf3ZshpJ5Ao1xzV5bZDd6I91aBCeW+t5ck9dyLzXy4xknCut8d06G/KKcO5KLt1KlU/R7Ike9x Fkjca18+FuDi35URz8tt/9UDzA1JQTU++l8UiQKS9zFdPR2FIFqb7PgCSnmmdJMBWWTEbaCiTS+E JOFxhkb7/NW/Qbvv7gPzMOKtcfDEHll9Mps+CigxbAGcAAAAAAAA --Apple-Mail-10-631142295-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Wed Nov 5 07:39:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F743A6B90 for ; 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Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:38:50 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Nov 2008 15:38:04 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.106]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 05 Nov 2008 16:38:04 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19oRPYIa/RoDHHJLIEaEvh5471HB5jfJuHsCIyhQF E7w6XFtPxPIlfb Message-ID: <4911BDDB.8010706@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:38:03 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evert | Rooftop , w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <20081105152614.GA26978@manyfish.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20081105152614.GA26978@manyfish.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_50=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1KxkSv-0007Yn-GA f650a7aacf63a7311d647159a66c6107 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: delete & unlock on previously locked resources Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13041 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:38:52 +0000 Joe Orton wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:10:17PM -0500, Evert | Rooftop wrote: >> Litmus 0.12 added tests for locking unmapped urls. One of the tests is >> failing for me, and I have a feeling it might be a bug in litmus, so I >> wanted to ask here.. > > Hiya, yes, this is a litmus bug; it'll be fixed for the next release; > see this thread: > > http://lists.manyfish.co.uk/pipermail/litmus/2008-October/000009.html I see. Yes, that's a bug. I missed that there was a new release :-) BR, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Wed Nov 5 07:53:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7F93A6BF4 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:53:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.121 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.478, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YcYxr4bmv1qP for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0A93A6C1E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxkfP-0003w3-Ka for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:51:35 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxkfO-0003vK-NC for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:51:34 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxkfF-0003ID-SZ for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:51:34 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Nov 2008 15:50:53 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.106]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 05 Nov 2008 16:50:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18cDgBUINAcBuUgfE+F2tnppxZbUJmyOAj2bEU1sT o0dpac4nEH51RD Message-ID: <4911C0DC.1090801@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:50:52 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: litmus@lists.manyfish.co.uk, WebDAV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.57 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1KxkfF-0003ID-SZ 0c906263e52691d70a97c14756b33932 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: unclear on shared lock support Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13042 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:51:35 +0000 Joe Orton wrote: > On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 11:50:08PM -0800, John Meissen wrote: >> I consider shared vs exclusive to be a lock attribute. There are other >> requested attributes, like timeout, that a server is free to ignore. >> I interpreted the RFC as allowing me to ignore the request to make the >> lock shared, and permitting me to create the lock in the mode I support >> (exclusive), especially since the actual lock characteristics are >> detailed in the response body. Hence there shouldn't be any confusion >> on the client's part since it can see what type of lock was created. > > Hmmm, interesting. > > I agree that neon/litmus should check that the lock returned by LOCK > matches the lock type requested, and fail/skip subsequent shared lock > tests appropriately. > > But I don't agree that it's a valid interpretation of 4918 to downgrade > the lock type from exclusive to shared. There is specific language in > 4918 explaining that the timeout is a "suggestion" made by the client - > there is no such language in the section on the lock type. Right. > If you can get consensus on the DAV list (w3c-dist-auth at w3.org) that > this behaviour is to be permitted then I'll update litmus to SKIP rather > than FAIL if the shared lock request is downgraded. No, I don't think this would be correct. If a server doesn't allow shared locks, it should reject the request. That's it. And yes, making Litmus smarter with respect to shared lock functionality would be good. Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Wed Nov 5 14:11:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7CE3A6828 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:11:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.027 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.027 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.572, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Z1Njxwpt5Zz for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:11:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CD53A67DF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:11:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxqYb-0008P1-7a for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:08:57 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.63]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxqYZ-0008ON-U0 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:08:55 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by bart.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxqYQ-0001ac-Fd for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:08:55 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Nov 2008 22:01:33 -0000 Received: from p508FC64A.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.198.74] by mail.gmx.net (mp009) with SMTP; 05 Nov 2008 23:01:33 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+GpdgRgLyGsU/GQCS7VU2NMhNPtKBCHM/Ai7+ycg vzCijDrSvalzrp Message-ID: <491217BB.2010904@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:01:31 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Meissen CC: litmus@lists.manyfish.co.uk, WebDAV References: <20081105181527.EFF92341C4@john> In-Reply-To: <20081105181527.EFF92341C4@john> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1KxqYQ-0001ac-Fd 8247c50cbeb7a860890df785664c3b10 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: unclear on shared lock support Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13043 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:08:57 +0000 John Meissen wrote: >> No, I don't think this would be correct. >> >> If a server doesn't allow shared locks, it should reject the request. >> That's it. >> >> And yes, making Litmus smarter with respect to shared lock functionality >> would be good. >> >> Best regards, Julian >> > > On the other hand, while there is explicit language detailing what other > conditions constitute failure there is nothing about shared vs exclusive. > And it's not clear to me that any of the listed potential responses would > fit such a failure. That list is not exhaustive. From : "In addition to the general status codes possible, the following status codes have specific applicability to UNLOCK:" In general, when a client sends a request, and the server can't fulfill it, it has to return an appropriate failure code, and *not* do something else. The timeout value is a special case, and that's why the spec says so. > Conceptually, the server is being asked to lock a resource and also allow > other clients to lock it. I'm willing to grant a lock to this client, but > I won't allow other clients to also lock it. In which case you need to fail the request, and then the client can retry an exclusive lock. > If a client cared about the lock scope they would retrieve the > lockdiscovery property first to find out whether shared locks are > supported. I suspect that most clients will neither note nor care about That is not true. I personally have written a client that assumes that success means success, and this works with all the servers I've tested against back then (those that do support shared locks, and those that don't). Your interpretation is creative, but it would be your job to prove that you're not introducing an interop problem for those clients that want shared locks. (and you do). > this distinction, and would only be aware that they were unable to lock > the resource (as I encountered with litmus). Yes, that's an example that misleading test suites can cause implementors to make the wrong choices. Shared locks are optional, so Litmus should just state that the server doesn't support them, instead of misleading implementers to do the wrong thing. > I real-world situations it would seem to me preferrable to grant a lock > of the supported type rather than fail the request. It will almost certainly > make no difference to the requesting client, where to do otherwise has > the potential to break existing applications. Sorry, but that is nonsense. If it doesn't make a difference, the client wouldn't have asked for a shared lock in the first place. If it does make a difference, the client would have either checked DAV:supportedlock first, and then made a choice, or just tried and checked for the status code. This works today with Apache/mod_dav, Slide, Jackrabbit, SAP KM, Xythos and Microsoft IIS. 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From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Sun Nov 9 07:54:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170723A691F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 07:54:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.342 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.342 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.257, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QKFF6folJCgV for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 07:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E183A6847 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 07:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KzCb3-0003CV-NK for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:53:05 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.63]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KzCa3-00034p-80 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:52:03 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by bart.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KzCZr-0004R3-5K for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:52:03 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Nov 2008 15:51:18 -0000 Received: from p508FFC2B.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.252.43] by mail.gmx.net (mp037) with SMTP; 09 Nov 2008 16:51:18 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+GpxAzzbuGo35/V9Ad1mdgQzhJhYMbEhL4/KUf15 iwC+t6hvCY+xON Message-ID: <491706F2.1080609@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:51:14 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WebDAV , "'www-webdav-dasl@w3.org'" References: <20080924141844.283BD28C285@core3.amsl.com> <48DA53F6.5020808@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <48DA53F6.5020808@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5600000000000001 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1KzCZr-0004R3-5K 1031bce6ab2ec9dda0d9cbfc50be438c X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Last minute changes to WebDAV SEARCH, was: WebDAV SEARCH approved as Proposed Standard Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13044 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:53:05 +0000 Hi, I've been working with the RFC Editor on the publication of this specification, and some disagreements surfaced with respect how to cite historic Internet Drafts, and what type of URLs are (or should be) acceptable in an RFC. People interested in the discussion itself may want to read the archives of the rfc-interest mailing list (starting with ). To get the issue resolved, I have moved the historic references to the Contributors section, and changed the document URLs to use purl.org as indirection mechanism (the RFC Editor was concerned with the stability of URLs on www.webdav.org...). So Section 1.1 now starts with: 1.1. DASL This document defines Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) SEARCH, an application of HTTP/1.1 forming a lightweight search protocol to transport queries and result sets that allows clients to make use of server-side search facilities. It is based on earlier work done in the IETF DASL Working Group (see Section 10). In this specification, the terms "WebDAV SEARCH" and "DASL" are used interchangeably. -- , and the Contributors Section now reads: 10. Contributors This document is based on prior work on the DASL protocol done by the WebDAV DASL working group until the year 2000 -- namely by Alan Babich, Jim Davis, Rick Henderson, Dale Lowry, Saveen Reddy, Surendra Reddy, and Judith Slein (see for the working group's web site, for a requirements document, and for an early version of the specification). -- If somebody feels this change is not ok, or need to get re-reviewed by the community, please speak up soon. Best regards, Julian Julian Reschke wrote: > > (FYI) > > The IESG wrote: >> The IESG has approved the following document: >> >> - 'Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) SEARCH ' >> as a Proposed Standard >> >> This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an >> IETF Working Group. >> The IESG contact person is Chris Newman. >> >> A URL of this Internet-Draft is: >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-reschke-webdav-search-18.txt >> ... From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Mon Nov 10 05:17:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273153A6783 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:17:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.908 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.908 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.091, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_34=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SB6pOm368PEV for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1E43A6806 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KzWcD-00048O-WA for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:15:38 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.63]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KzWcC-00047k-Nk for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:15:36 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by bart.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KzWc3-0006k8-Op for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:15:36 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Nov 2008 13:14:55 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.106]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp057) with SMTP; 10 Nov 2008 14:14:55 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18/xxMDOs0/50mKEPZy/XEIzQJm7D7hnk5O6eYc10 23qhleorDwtseH Message-ID: <491833CB.7010804@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:14:51 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WebDAV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.51 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1KzWc3-0006k8-Op d97cbe0155aa7369e6936f9ad1a647b9 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Mapping DAV link properties to HTML/Atom/Http link relations Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13045 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:15:37 +0000 Hi, some while ago, the Atom feed format has introduced link relations that either can use a short name (through an IANA registry), or a full URI as identifier. generalizes this concept, introducing a single registry for both (X)HTML and Atom link relations, and also re-introduces the HTTP Link header (defined in RFC 2068, but dropped from RFC 2616). In WebDAV, we already have properties of type link implicitly (by containing DAV:href elements). So, for instance, the DAV:checked-in property defined in , could be interpreted to also define a link relation identified by the URI "DAV:checked-in". Potential benefits: 1) Use in HTTP Link Header A server could expose the property value in an HTTP response header, independently of WebDAV: HEAD /foobar HTTP/1.1 Host: example.com HTTP/1.1 200 OK Content-Type: text/plain Link: ; rel="DAV:checked-in" 2) Response bodies of WebDAV requests that affect the set of links could be made more useful, such as in: VERSION-CONTROL /foobar HTTP/1.1 Host: example.com HTTP/1.1 201 OK Content-Type: application/xml+xhtml Content-Length: xxx Resource put under Version Control

The resource has been put under version control; the version history is located at /histories/123, and the initial version is /versions/456.

Open issue: WebDAV uses QNames to identify properties, and they do not always map well to absolute URIs -- the simplest approach to address this is by choosing namespace URIs wisely... Feedback appreciated, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Mon Nov 17 14:55:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A313A6A59 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:55:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1oNYq-v2j3vT for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEB23A6922 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:55:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L2CzM-0003EK-T8 for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:54:36 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L2CzL-0003Da-EW for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:54:35 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L2Cz7-0000LQ-Ed for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:54:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 31816 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2008 22:53:50 -0000 Received: from 198.202.202.20 by www125.gmx.net with HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:53:50 +0100 (CET) Cc: www-webdav-dasl@w3.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:53:50 +0100 From: "Julian Reschke" Message-ID: <20081117225350.237170@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+zAd5NdZyzaZeEjZvdqMlnj6j3fiZiYKQoTpjhzz r8loqIheISohccqToZ/uevO9+/gcGv4VBvPg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: x80XAO0bQEV/DqIPdHVpyvBCNzg2NQKa X-FuHaFi: 0.6899999999999999 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1L2Cz7-0000LQ-Ed 91cf49a17a69a1417ccd9db319893737 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: WebDAV SEARCH published as RFC 5323 Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13046 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:54:36 +0000 Hi, WebDAV SEARCH has finally been published as RFC 5323 (a Proposed Standard). ASCII versions can be found in the usual places, HTML and XML versions can be found at http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/#rfc5323. Best regards, Julian -- "Feel free" - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Tue Nov 25 11:37:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0216E3A6AA7 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:37:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LJYeBnrxD5dK for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3331A3A6902 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L53hO-00032P-6f for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:35:50 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L53hM-00031K-Lz for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:35:48 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by maggie.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L53hB-0006SZ-Gk for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:35:48 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Nov 2008 19:35:05 -0000 Received: from p508FDA98.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.218.152] by mail.gmx.net (mp047) with SMTP; 25 Nov 2008 20:35:05 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/hpv5XHD3hKt9Y0+vflnYPsj+B/blbT38ziUP/y2 BCb8h++olj7pd3 Message-ID: <492C5361.8010004@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:34:57 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WebDAV References: <20081125044501.5B47C3A6BD7@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20081125044501.5B47C3A6BD7@core3.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.63 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1L53hB-0006SZ-Gk 38edd88452da2945d2f2dc49574109d4 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] I-D Action:draft-ietf-vcarddav-webdav-mkcol-01.txt Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13047 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:35:50 +0000 (FYI) Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the vCard and CardDAV Working Group of the IETF. > > > Title : Extended MKCOL for WebDAV > Author(s) : C. 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From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Wed Nov 26 08:40:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D823A6837 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:40:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=3.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gPt0ugf5bsyx for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3F33A688A for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L5NQ4-0005PX-92 for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:39:16 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.63]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L5NQ2-0005Oo-UC for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:39:14 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by bart.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L5NPu-00049n-7f for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:39:14 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Nov 2008 16:38:33 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.106]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp050) with SMTP; 26 Nov 2008 17:38:33 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/KGHoPvBvKnGKFnwUHhxIMa7RGT1bN3K6ZnaJV79 Q5x7cVRbyRAPPR Message-ID: <492D7B86.7060902@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:38:30 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vcarddav@ietf.org CC: WebDAV References: <20081125044501.5B47C3A6BD7@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20081125044501.5B47C3A6BD7@core3.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1L5NPu-00049n-7f ad0f2e8162df03d01a07eadcef26e202 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Feedback on draft-ietf-vcarddav-webdav-mkcol-01, Re: [VCARDDAV] I-D Action:draft-ietf-vcarddav-webdav-mkcol-01.txt Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13048 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:39:16 +0000 Hi, I just checked, and it appears my comments for draft -00 really haven't been considered yet: . Please do so. On reading -01, I found one other issue: when using extended MKCOL, is it required to specify DAV:collection in the resource type? It appears irrelevant (as the resource always will be a collection) -- I don't have any specific preference, but it could be good to clarify that in order to avoid interop problems. Besides that, I found mainly editorial issues (sent privately to Cyrus), such as: 1) too generic references (I prefer when a spec tells the reader which secton to visit), and 2) RFC-Editor nits (unexpanded abbreviations, text talking about "this proposal" instead of "this specification", Title Case in Section Titles) -- I think it's good to have them resolved as early as possible -- the less changes the RFC Editor needs to do, the better (speaking from experience :-). 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From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Sat Nov 29 11:00:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070C73A6BE2 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:00:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yEedhcRDxPE0 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1733A68BE for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:59:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6V10-00047Y-Nt for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:58:02 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.63]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6V0z-00046u-Az for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:58:01 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by bart.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6V0l-0006QE-7f for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:58:01 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Nov 2008 18:57:15 -0000 Received: from p508FECAA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.236.170] by mail.gmx.net (mp057) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2008 19:57:15 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18UZXAqJm4U4SvWXb+ym5GP0tlYzoBACbNPUIJYzi LeUtWFHvmOB0wX Message-ID: <49319085.5060107@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:57:09 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WebDAV , vcarddav@ietf.org References: <20081128183002.124D83A68A5@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20081128183002.124D83A68A5@core3.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.57 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_20=-0.74, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1L6V0l-0006QE-7f b8ef137c8631413064a6c71a50ba48a2 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: feedback on draft-ietf-vcarddav-webdav-mkcol-02, was: [VCARDDAV] I-D Action:draft-ietf-vcarddav-webdav-mkcol-02.txt Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13049 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:58:02 +0000 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the vCard and CardDAV Working Group of the IETF. > > > Title : Extended MKCOL for WebDAV > Author(s) : C. Daboo > Filename : draft-ietf-vcarddav-webdav-mkcol-02.txt > Pages : 13 > Date : 2008-11-28 > ... Looks good to, except one minor issue: the WebDAV extensibility model really is defined in Section 17 of RFC4918, not Appendix A. I recommend to just borrow the relevant paragraphs from . 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From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Sun Nov 30 11:22:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5165D3A6A63 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:22:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.857 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.857 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.742, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ms+bSvzEhYaT for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FF93A6A4F for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6rpi-0002wS-R6 for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:19:54 +0000 Received: from bart.w3.org ([128.30.52.63]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6rph-0002vo-Js for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:19:53 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by bart.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6rpY-0001dK-Sp for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:19:53 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Nov 2008 19:19:07 -0000 Received: from p508FD501.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.213.1] by mail.gmx.net (mp037) with SMTP; 30 Nov 2008 20:19:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/ECdA1Ri3EKXglt3B1XXTufpz4fEH3ZkkR5IVxtc YsabJh0yjYL2Hk Message-ID: <4932E724.2050402@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:19:00 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WebDAV References: <20081130190001.7C9C93A69B5@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20081130190001.7C9C93A69B5@core3.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.55 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_05=-1.11, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: bart.w3.org 1L6rpY-0001dK-Sp a442d22539dbac8d0a6326d45a7700cd X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: I-D Action:draft-reschke-webdav-post-02.txt Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13050 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:19:54 +0000 Hi, I have updated my "POST in WebDAV proposal". At this point I think it's ready for an informal last call. From my point of view the remaining questions are: - is there sufficient community support for this justifying the put the element names into the DAV: namespace? and - should I keep the sections that talk about the HTTP Link header (which is currently being proposed in an I-D which may or may not be ready before this proposal is ready) BR, Julian Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > Title : Using POST to add Members to Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) Collections > Author(s) : J. Reschke > Filename : draft-reschke-webdav-post-02.txt > Pages : 15 > Date : 2008-11-30 > > The Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) Extensions for the Web > Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) do not define the > behavior for the "POST" method when applied to collections, as the > base specification (HTTP) leaves implementers lots of freedom for the > semantics of "POST". > > This has led to a situation where many WebDAV servers do not > implement POST for collections at all, although it is well suited to > be used for the purpose of adding new members to a collection, where > the server remains in control of the newly assigned URL. As a matter > of fact, the Atom Publishing Protocol (AtomPub) uses POST exactly for > that purpose. On the other hand, WebDAV-based protocols such as the > Calendar Extensions to WebDAV (CalDAV) frequently require clients to > pick a unique URL, although the server could easily perform that > task. > > This specification defines a discovery mechanism through which > servers can advertise support for POST requests with the > aforementioned "add collection member" semantics. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-reschke-webdav-post-02.txt > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From kevin@123bingo.com Sun Nov 30 11:53:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AA83A6A2D for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:53:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -30.646 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-30.646 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HTML_EXTRA_CLOSE=2.809, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id krw7RTiFJTAm for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ama-assn.org (unknown [94.178.231.225]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9446C3A6A1C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:53:12 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: find relief in enlarging From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081130195313.9446C3A6A1C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:53:12 -0800 (PST)
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From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Sun Nov 30 14:48:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-webdav-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABAF3A6A48 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:48:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EtM25w60JhIG for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:48:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0B73A68CE for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6v4K-0007w4-Ff for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:47:12 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6v4I-0007v6-HY; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:47:10 +0000 Received: from e3.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.143]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6v48-00010T-Uh; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:47:10 +0000 Received: from d01relay04.pok.ibm.com (d01relay04.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.236]) by e3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mAUMjxma013505; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:45:59 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay04.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v9.1) with ESMTP id mAUMkOcA196892; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:46:24 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id mAUMjxKQ025143; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:45:59 -0500 Received: from d01ml261.pok.ibm.com (d01ml261.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.97]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mAUMjxhP025140; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:45:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4932E724.2050402@gmx.de> To: Julian Reschke Cc: WebDAV , w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF277 June 21, 2006 From: Geoffrey M Clemm Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:46:33 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML261/01/M/IBM(Release 8.0.1|February 07, 2008) at 11/30/2008 17:46:23, Serialize complete at 11/30/2008 17:46:23 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007D176C87257511_=" Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1L6v48-00010T-Uh 4845fe64ff65b6522478ef707eb49177 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: I-D Action:draft-reschke-webdav-post-02.txt Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13051 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:47:12 +0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007D176C87257511_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I support this draft, and believe the element names should be added into the DAV: namespace. I suggest removing the section that talks about the HTTP Link header, to remove this dependency (or at least, marking it somehow as "to be removed by editor if the HTTP Link I-D is not ready"). Cheers, Geoff w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org wrote on 11/30/2008 12:19:00 PM: > > Hi, > > I have updated my "POST in WebDAV proposal". > > At this point I think it's ready for an informal last call. From my > point of view the remaining questions are: > > - is there sufficient community support for this justifying the put the > element names into the DAV: namespace? > > and > > - should I keep the sections that talk about the HTTP Link header (which > is currently being proposed in an I-D which may or may not be ready > before this proposal is ready) > > BR, Julian > > > > Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > > Title : Using POST to add Members to Web Distributed > Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) Collections > > Author(s) : J. Reschke > > Filename : draft-reschke-webdav-post-02.txt > > Pages : 15 > > Date : 2008-11-30 > > > > The Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) Extensions for the Web > > Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) do not define the > > behavior for the "POST" method when applied to collections, as the > > base specification (HTTP) leaves implementers lots of freedom for the > > semantics of "POST". > > > > This has led to a situation where many WebDAV servers do not > > implement POST for collections at all, although it is well suited to > > be used for the purpose of adding new members to a collection, where > > the server remains in control of the newly assigned URL. As a matter > > of fact, the Atom Publishing Protocol (AtomPub) uses POST exactly for > > that purpose. On the other hand, WebDAV-based protocols such as the > > Calendar Extensions to WebDAV (CalDAV) frequently require clients to > > pick a unique URL, although the server could easily perform that > > task. > > > > This specification defines a discovery mechanism through which > > servers can advertise support for POST requests with the > > aforementioned "add collection member" semantics. > > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-reschke-webdav-post-02.txt > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > > Internet-Draft. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > I-D-Announce mailing list > > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > --=_alternative 007D176C87257511_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I support this draft, and believe the element names should be added into the DAV: namespace.

I suggest removing the section that talks about the HTTP Link header, to remove this dependency (or at least, marking it somehow as "to be removed by editor if the HTTP Link I-D is not ready").

Cheers,
Geoff


w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org wrote on 11/30/2008 12:19:00 PM:

>
> Hi,
>
> I have updated my "POST in WebDAV proposal".
>
> At this point I think it's ready for an informal last call. From my
> point of view the remaining questions are:
>
> - is there sufficient community support for this justifying the put the
> element names into the DAV: namespace?
>
> and
>
> - should I keep the sections that talk about the HTTP Link header (which
> is currently being proposed in an I-D which may or may not be ready
> before this proposal is ready)
>
> BR, Julian
>
>
>
> Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> >
> >    Title           : Using POST to add Members to Web Distributed
> Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) Collections
> >    Author(s)       : J. Reschke
> >    Filename        : draft-reschke-webdav-post-02.txt
> >    Pages           : 15
> >    Date            : 2008-11-30
> >
> > The Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) Extensions for the Web
> > Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) do not define the
> > behavior for the "POST" method when applied to collections, as the
> > base specification (HTTP) leaves implementers lots of freedom for the
> > semantics of "POST".
> >
> > This has led to a situation where many WebDAV servers do not
> > implement POST for collections at all, although it is well suited to
> > be used for the purpose of adding new members to a collection, where
> > the server remains in control of the newly assigned URL.  As a matter
> > of fact, the Atom Publishing Protocol (AtomPub) uses POST exactly for
> > that purpose.  On the other hand, WebDAV-based protocols such as the
> > Calendar Extensions to WebDAV (CalDAV) frequently require clients to
> > pick a unique URL, although the server could easily perform that
> > task.
> >
> > This specification defines a discovery mechanism through which
> > servers can advertise support for POST requests with the
> > aforementioned "add collection member" semantics.
> >
> > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-reschke-webdav-post-02.txt
> >
> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> >
> > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader
> > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the
> > Internet-Draft.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > I-D-Announce mailing list
> > I-D-Announce@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce
> > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html
> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt
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