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> - Agenda Bashing
> - Introductions
> - Status update vs Charter
> - Discussion of Bernie Monette web page prototype at
> http://www.iaai.ca/weird
> - Discussion of Kathy Bosovich draft paper on multicast activites in IETF
> - Discussion of Chris Burke draft paper on wireless activities in IETF
> - Actions for next 90 days
> - Adjourn
> 
Will send out the Bosovich and Burke "hot topics" papers in next 24 hours.
Chris


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I might do this myself, but would be happy to collaborate with others on the
list.

There are a lot of very interesting BOFs planned for Adelaide. I'd like to
arrange them topically, using our list of 'hot topics' as a schema, and put
a web page up on the prototype WEIRD site with a single paragraph
description and the time of each BOF.

I have a crazy vision of doing this BEFORE the conference opens on Sunday.
Any takers?

Chris Burke



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Kathy Bosovich's paper on multicast:
http://home.earthlink.net/~serotonin/Multicasting2_2_8_00.html

Chris Burke's paper on wireless:
http://home.earthlink.net/~serotonin/HotTopicWireless.htm

These are for discussion at Adelaide. As you can see we do not have a common
style sheet yet, although I think Kathy's article is more along the lines of
the templates we discussed at past meetings.

Chris Burke




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Here's a first draft (incomplete) at a "WEIRD Guide to the BOFs".

http://home.earthlink.net/~serotonin/BOFs47.htm

I plan to continue working on this, and want to finish it and get it up on
the web site by tomorrow. If you'd like to help, just follow the hyperlink
on each BOF in the document to get to the agenda, then write a digest of the
agenda similar to the ones I've provided for BLOCKS, IWW, and ITRACE.

To avoid duplication, let me know which ones you want to work on. I plan on
doing these today / tomorrow:
IPS, VPIM, SIP323, FOGLAMPS. Could use help on B2BXML, IMAPEXT, FICKLE,
VOMPLS, RPERFMAN, TMNSNMP, IPSRA, SYSLOG, and IPO.

Process: Send me your digests, I will drop them into the master document.
Bernie, let's publish to your prototype site. Once it's up maybe we can get
Steve Coya to put a link to it on the IETF main page, or in the Adelaide
meeting links.

Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Bernie Monette [SMTP:monette@iaai.ca]
> Sent:	Tuesday, March 21, 2000 2:36 PM
> To:	Burke Chris-CCB007
> Subject:	Re: Anybody want to whip up a 'WEIRD Guide to the BOFs'?
> 
> Where do I get the info?
> 
> Bernie
> 
> Bernie Monette
> InterActive Arts
> Internet Presence Management
> http://www.iaai.ca mailto:monette@iaai.ca (416) 469-4337
> InterActive Arts has been named one of the top 50 Canadian Web
> Development Companies.  Go to http://www.iaai.ca/iaai_branham.html 
> 
> Burke Chris-CCB007 wrote:
> > 
> > I might do this myself, but would be happy to collaborate with others on
> the
> > list.
> > 
> > There are a lot of very interesting BOFs planned for Adelaide. I'd like
> to
> > arrange them topically, using our list of 'hot topics' as a schema, and
> put
> > a web page up on the prototype WEIRD site with a single paragraph
> > description and the time of each BOF.
> > 
> > I have a crazy vision of doing this BEFORE the conference opens on
> Sunday.
> > Any takers?
> > 
> > Chris Burke


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I am adding time and location information for each BOF as well.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Burke Chris-CCB007 [SMTP:Chris.Burke@motorola.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, March 21, 2000 9:59 PM
> To:	'Bernie Monette'; Austin Bill-P23393
> Cc:	'ietf-weird@imc.org'
> Subject:	DRAFT: 'WEIRD Guide to the BOFs'
> 
> Here's a first draft (incomplete) at a "WEIRD Guide to the BOFs".
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~serotonin/BOFs47.htm
> 
> I plan to continue working on this, and want to finish it and get it up on
> the web site by tomorrow. If you'd like to help, just follow the hyperlink
> on each BOF in the document to get to the agenda, then write a digest of
> the
> agenda similar to the ones I've provided for BLOCKS, IWW, and ITRACE.
> 
> To avoid duplication, let me know which ones you want to work on. I plan
> on
> doing these today / tomorrow:
> IPS, VPIM, SIP323, FOGLAMPS. Could use help on B2BXML, IMAPEXT, FICKLE,
> VOMPLS, RPERFMAN, TMNSNMP, IPSRA, SYSLOG, and IPO.
> 
> Process: Send me your digests, I will drop them into the master document.
> Bernie, let's publish to your prototype site. Once it's up maybe we can
> get
> Steve Coya to put a link to it on the IETF main page, or in the Adelaide
> meeting links.
> 
> Chris
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Bernie Monette [SMTP:monette@iaai.ca]
> > Sent:	Tuesday, March 21, 2000 2:36 PM
> > To:	Burke Chris-CCB007
> > Subject:	Re: Anybody want to whip up a 'WEIRD Guide to the BOFs'?
> > 
> > Where do I get the info?
> > 
> > Bernie
> > 
> > Bernie Monette
> > InterActive Arts
> > Internet Presence Management
> > http://www.iaai.ca mailto:monette@iaai.ca (416) 469-4337
> > InterActive Arts has been named one of the top 50 Canadian Web
> > Development Companies.  Go to http://www.iaai.ca/iaai_branham.html 
> > 
> > Burke Chris-CCB007 wrote:
> > > 
> > > I might do this myself, but would be happy to collaborate with others
> on
> > the
> > > list.
> > > 
> > > There are a lot of very interesting BOFs planned for Adelaide. I'd
> like
> > to
> > > arrange them topically, using our list of 'hot topics' as a schema,
> and
> > put
> > > a web page up on the prototype WEIRD site with a single paragraph
> > > description and the time of each BOF.
> > > 
> > > I have a crazy vision of doing this BEFORE the conference opens on
> > Sunday.
> > > Any takers?
> > > 
> > > Chris Burke


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Well, a complete first draft, anyway. Let me know what you think, how to
make the content more usable. I still want to get this up on the web site
before Adelaide. Thanks! Chris Burke

> 	http://home.earthlink.net/~serotonin/BOFs47.htm


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Hi Chris,

> Well, a complete first draft, anyway. Let me know what you think, how to
> make the content more usable. I still want to get this up on the web site

looks fine to me! Three remarks: 

o In the first paragraph you say ``discuss creation of new IETF working
  groups''. This is correct, but may mislead raeders to think that every
  BOF leads to a WG, which is not the case. How about something like
  ``evaluate interest in a certain topic which may lead to the creation of
  a new IETF WG''?

o The second paragraph contains `` ... posted to the IETF New Work mailing
  list ...''. Instead of linking in a mailto:-URL I'd suggest pointing to a
  descriptive page for that mailing list. I must admit, I've seen it in
  the address field of BOF announcements, but what exactly is its purpose?

o Also for BOFs a plea to people to prepare in advance and read the documents
  might be appropriate in the explanation section.

-Peter


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Subject: RE: Snooze You Lose! The WEIRD Guide to IETF BOFs is done
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Chris,

I'm sorry that I won't be joining you at Adelaide.  It's nothing personal
:-) , I'm not attending this meeting.

Regards,

Graham.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Burke Chris-CCB007 [SMTP:Chris.Burke@motorola.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, March 22, 2000 8:55 AM
> To:	'Bernie Monette'; Austin Bill-P23393
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> Subject:	Snooze You Lose! The WEIRD Guide to IETF BOFs is done
> 
> Well, a complete first draft, anyway. Let me know what you think, how to
> make the content more usable. I still want to get this up on the web site
> before Adelaide. Thanks! Chris Burke
> 
> > 	http://home.earthlink.net/~serotonin/BOFs47.htm


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Chris:
The page looks fine. The only thing is that the page is very long. So I
would put a table of contents on the left side with links to each BOF.
Maybe the WEIRD icons as well, branding etc., to incorporate it into the
entire site. I can do this if you like.

Bernie



Burke Chris-CCB007 wrote:
> 
> Well, a complete first draft, anyway. Let me know what you think, how to
> make the content more usable. I still want to get this up on the web site
> before Adelaide. Thanks! Chris Burke
> 
> >       http://home.earthlink.net/~serotonin/BOFs47.htm

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At the WG meeting Thursday afternoon in Adelaide we will discuss:

Bernie Monette's web page prototype:
http://www.iaai.ca/weird

> Kathy Bosovich's paper on multicast:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~serotonin/Multicasting2_2_8_00.html
> 
> Chris Burke's paper on wireless:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~serotonin/HotTopicWireless.htm
> 
> As you can see we do not have a common style sheet yet, although I think
> Kathy's article is more along the lines of
> the templates we discussed at past meetings.
> 
NOTE: I have been asked to say a few words about WEIRD at the IAB wireless
BOF. Now that we have some real content to offer, people are starting to
appreciate our work. Thanks to everybody, and keep it up!

> Chris Burke
> 


