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X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 01:01:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_0132B380-C36A-4E12-B5C6-63296476A63D Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9A5B659D-38FC-4F2F-A82F-59C2D44843CF" --Apple-Mail=_9A5B659D-38FC-4F2F-A82F-59C2D44843CF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Alexey or Jeffrey, Are you looking to have a meeting (at least informally) at IETF 102 in = Montreal? Dan -- Dan York Director, Content & Web Strategy, Internet Society york@isoc.org +1-802-735-1624=20 Jabber: york@jabber.isoc.org Skype: danyork = http://twitter.com/danyork http://www.internetsociety.org/ --Apple-Mail=_9A5B659D-38FC-4F2F-A82F-59C2D44843CF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Alexey or Jeffrey,

Are you looking to have a meeting (at least informally) at IETF 102 in Montreal?

Dan

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draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-exchanges-00.txt X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:06:04 -0000 --000000000000890fed056e9237ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Here's an initial version of the bundling spec. It's just a starting point for discussion, and I expect at least 3 significant changes in the near future: 1. Per https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/issues/212, I'll probably change the index to list resources in the same order they appear in the responses array, and only put lengths in the index, which will save a bit of space and guarantee that responses don't overlap eachother. 2. I may change the index to, instead of storing multiple requests for a given URL and needing an algorithm ( https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/issues/201) to match browser requests with stored requests, for each URL map the matrix of Variant-Keys defined by draft-ietf-httpbis-variants to their responses. 3. I'll define a way to sign a collection of exchanges instead of expecting each exchange to be individually signed using draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses. Jeffrey ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Date: Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 8:54 PM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-exchanges-00.txt To: Jeffrey Yasskin A new version of I-D, draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-exchanges-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Jeffrey Yasskin and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-exchanges Revision: 00 Title: Bundled HTTP Exchanges Document date: 2018-06-13 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 19 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-exchanges-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-exchanges/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-exchanges-00 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-exchanges Abstract: Bundled exchanges provide a way to bundle up groups of HTTP request+response pairs to transmit or store them together. They can include multiple top-level resources with one identified as the default by a manifest, provide random access to their component exchanges, and efficiently store 8-bit resources. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --000000000000890fed056e9237ec Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here's an initial version of the bundling spec. It'= ;s just a starting point for discussion, and I expect at least 3 significan= t changes in the near future:

1. Per=C2=A0https://github.com/WICG/webpack= age/issues/212, I'll probably change the index to list resources in= the same order they appear in the responses array, and only put lengths in= the index, which will save a bit of space and guarantee that responses don= 't overlap eachother.
2. I may change the index to, instead o= f storing multiple requests for a given URL and needing an algorithm (https://github.com/WIC= G/webpackage/issues/201) to match browser requests with stored requests= , for each URL map the matrix of Variant-Keys defined by=C2=A0draft-ietf-ht= tpbis-variants to their responses.
3. I'll define a way to si= gn a collection of exchanges instead of expecting each exchange to be indiv= idually signed using=C2=A0draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses.
=

Jeffrey

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Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-e= xchanges
Revision:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A000
Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bundled HTTP Exchanges
Document date:=C2=A0 2018-06-13
Group:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Individual Submission
Pages:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 19
URL:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yassk= in-wpack-bundled-exchanges-00.txt
Status:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-ex= changes/
Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yasskin-wpack-bundled-exchanges-00
Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-yasskin-wpack-bundl= ed-exchanges


Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Bundled exchanges provide a way to bundle up groups of HTTP =C2=A0 =C2=A0request+response pairs to transmit or store them together.=C2= =A0 They can
=C2=A0 =C2=A0include multiple top-level resources with one identified as th= e
=C2=A0 =C2=A0default by a manifest, provide random access to their componen= t
=C2=A0 =C2=A0exchanges, and efficiently store 8-bit resources.




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We've also allocated a test OID for the CanSignHttpExchanges extension so that people can start testing the design, and I believe at least 1 CA is working on being able to issue certificates with that extension. Please keep submitting issues at https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/issues when something in the specification doesn't work for your uses. Thanks, Jeffrey ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:04 PM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-04.txt To: Jeffrey Yasskin A new version of I-D, draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-04.txt has been successfully submitted by Jeffrey Yasskin and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses Revision: 04 Title: Signed HTTP Exchanges Document date: 2018-06-14 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 51 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-04.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-04 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-04 Abstract: This document specifies how a server can send an HTTP request/ response pair, known as an exchange, with signatures that vouch for that exchange's authenticity. These signatures can be verified against an origin's certificate to establish that the exchange is authoritative for an origin even if it was transferred over a connection that isn't. The signatures can also be used in other ways described in the appendices. These signatures contain countermeasures against downgrade and protocol-confusion attacks. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --000000000000a6daf6056ea3120a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This update contains several changes to make it easier to = parse a cross-origin signed exchange and to start loading it while it's= only partially transferred over the network.

We've = also allocated a test OID for the=C2=A0CanSignHttpExchanges extension so th= at people can start testing the design, and I believe at least 1 CA is work= ing on being able to issue certificates with that extension.

=
Please keep submitting issues at=C2=A0https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/issues when so= mething in the specification doesn't work for your uses.

=
Thanks,
Jeffrey

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A new version of I-D, draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-04.txt
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Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-yasskin-http-origin-sig= ned-responses
Revision:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A004
Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Signed HTTP Exchanges
Document date:=C2=A0 2018-06-14
Group:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Individual Submission
Pages:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 51
URL:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draf= t-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-04.txt
Status:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yasskin-http-origin= -signed-responses/
Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-respo= nses-04
Htmlized:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-yasskin-http-or= igin-signed-responses
Diff:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-yasski= n-http-origin-signed-responses-04

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document specifies how a server can send an HTTP request/=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0response pair, known as an exchange, with signatures that vouc= h for
=C2=A0 =C2=A0that exchange's authenticity.=C2=A0 These signatures can b= e verified
=C2=A0 =C2=A0against an origin's certificate to establish that the exch= ange is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0authoritative for an origin even if it was transferred over a<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0connection that isn't.=C2=A0 The signatures can also be us= ed in other ways
=C2=A0 =C2=A0described in the appendices.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0These signatures contain countermeasures against downgrade and=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0protocol-confusion attacks.




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--000000000000a6daf6056ea3120a-- From nobody Thu Jun 14 17:16:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B28130EC5 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:16:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.25 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.25 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=chromium.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4RmriCbSTo44 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yb0-x22c.google.com (mail-yb0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB15C130EAA for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id v17-v6so2909835ybe.7 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:16:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chromium.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sGW83QOvoU30s9vIFS8uVfmifk82drTeGl/+Nf7bv6c=; b=dcunq75Trsa0YM7hd1+zrVkWSZsXUJjetDEpykT53Cp0GaxwvKd1ZgbTOR+4oPBUpQ 0u2vzut42BenU91bljlEkgfb8FIjCKy0RZWOosG8bd9o0IO8vyca08P4XDr4Z9RC0AI6 z6vN0CMURT7iXZD3ThzPbKk08XnJKbuhrakgY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sGW83QOvoU30s9vIFS8uVfmifk82drTeGl/+Nf7bv6c=; b=acvQc3bhbCsSdO3WgodFzfCCYF5Y5nN0iVxOimbZN4uFNd4yG4wQBbH/CTr8o5XOZR FWHgqgWvEiR0Mfe6W2bMsQwDeGrS9223St7oxoZA9Mx61yDW8ObeGiHBUXu90uToI4S1 KtYdLgCoyhPNGfDLVrEs9LnmTPO3PJ0h0ZtRztsJk4bPlnUc1eXUiF6UmLmWAQ3WLGcs 6AdF2pnisNlTtXxeQcd/L/d6mGsQokEeM2XYOmJ+aaH36tHdRLhvhdGh4ZVnvd7zjb3g cdbnvgNF/h9R2qtFzkISF1SucgU6O0ZySFXV6Jv4ncT8wS7MLWFTx82C8VKTXcgyCWM/ a4UQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1MvN8zE/gOzjJ2370qRyETTD8aXiHt3xF7gn6jiDXZfAEAZTz2 oOlC+OJGc1aI5rfBolS50+n9JSq3Tx0VauJ6FISNrt8S X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJwEwhTfn9h6zOma1PDpnEKSyu4gEXt+vuPiOBymkvhyUDWcI97FU/VF8rPjdNUSm8/I2YC/N/2Ujk0yNHup3w= X-Received: by 2002:a25:3993:: with SMTP id g141-v6mr2750526yba.8.1529021806511; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:16:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2BA1FE60-D5A8-49A7-BB92-1650ABB5304B@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: <2BA1FE60-D5A8-49A7-BB92-1650ABB5304B@isoc.org> From: Jeffrey Yasskin Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:16:35 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dan York Cc: wpack@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a222b9056ea32129" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Wpack] Meeting at IETF 102 in Montreal? X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 00:16:49 -0000 --000000000000a222b9056ea32129 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I won't be in Montreal, but I should be able to call in if people want to discuss the drafts or talk about how they want to use the new capabilities. Please chime in here if you'd be interested in a meeting that week. Thanks, Jeffrey On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:02 PM Dan York wrote: > Alexey or Jeffrey, > > Are you looking to have a meeting (at least informally) at IETF 102 in > Montreal? > > Dan > > -- > Dan York > Director, Content & Web Strategy, Internet Society > york@isoc.org +1-802-735-1624 > Jabber: york@jabber.isoc.org Skype: danyork http://twitter.com/danyork > > http://www.internetsociety.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wpack mailing list > Wpack@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpack > --000000000000a222b9056ea32129 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I won't be in Montreal, but I should be able to call i= n if people want to discuss the drafts or talk about how they want to use t= he new capabilities.

Please chime in here if you'd b= e interested in a meeting that week.

Thanks,
J= effrey

On = Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:02 PM Dan York <york@isoc.org> wrote:
Alexey or Jeffrey,

Are you looking to have a meeting (a= t least informally) at IETF 102 in Montreal?

Dan

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Jabber: york@jabber.isoc.org =C2=A0Skype:=C2=A0da= nyork =C2=A0 http:= //twitter.com/danyork

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X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 17:05:05 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_BAB507B5-4CD3-4083-B924-76C6BB77B0D9 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8F53AC3F-93EF-411A-926D-60C5B77B9BB4" --Apple-Mail=_8F53AC3F-93EF-411A-926D-60C5B77B9BB4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jeff, > On Jun 14, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin = wrote: >=20 > I won't be in Montreal, but I should be able to call in if people want = to discuss the drafts or talk about how they want to use the new = capabilities. >=20 > Please chime in here if you'd be interested in a meeting that week. Yes, I'd be interested in meeting during IETF 102. I may be able to = help with onsite logistics (finding a room, etc.). Others interested? Dan -- Dan York Director, Content & Web Strategy, Internet Society york@isoc.org +1-802-735-1624=20 Jabber: york@jabber.isoc.org Skype: danyork = http://twitter.com/danyork http://www.internetsociety.org/= --Apple-Mail=_8F53AC3F-93EF-411A-926D-60C5B77B9BB4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Jeff,

On Jun 14, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin = <jyasskin@chromium.org> wrote:

I won't be in Montreal, but I = should be able to call in if people want to discuss the drafts or talk = about how they want to use the new capabilities.

Please chime in here if you'd be = interested in a meeting that = week.

Yes, I'd = be interested in meeting during IETF 102.  I may be able to help = with onsite logistics (finding a room, etc.).

Others interested?

Dan

--
Dan York
Director, Content & = Web Strategy, Internet Society
york@isoc.org   = +1-802-735-1624 
Jabber: york@jabber.isoc.org =  Skype: danyork   http://twitter.com/danyork

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In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 10:34:32 +1000 Cc: Jeffrey Yasskin , "wpack@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <788BE920-0B52-4B8F-9FA1-26B0C9E7BFC4@mnot.net> References: <2BA1FE60-D5A8-49A7-BB92-1650ABB5304B@isoc.org> To: Dan York X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Wpack] Meeting at IETF 102 in Montreal? X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 00:34:45 -0000 It would be *great* if we could just get an update from someone = knowledgeable about what's been up with webpackage -- there seems to = have been a lot of activity on the specs and implementation.=20 Cheers, > On 21 Jun 2018, at 3:04 am, Dan York wrote: >=20 > Jeff, >=20 >> On Jun 14, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin = wrote: >>=20 >> I won't be in Montreal, but I should be able to call in if people = want to discuss the drafts or talk about how they want to use the new = capabilities. >>=20 >> Please chime in here if you'd be interested in a meeting that week. >=20 > Yes, I'd be interested in meeting during IETF 102. I may be able to = help with onsite logistics (finding a room, etc.). >=20 > Others interested? >=20 > Dan >=20 > -- > Dan York > Director, Content & Web Strategy, Internet Society > york@isoc.org +1-802-735-1624=20 > Jabber: york@jabber.isoc.org Skype: danyork = http://twitter.com/danyork >=20 > http://www.internetsociety.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Wpack mailing list > Wpack@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpack -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ From nobody Wed Jun 20 20:24:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B4A130FC8 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:24:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.25 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.25 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=chromium.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cyoiDxu1KZlu for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-x233.google.com (mail-yw0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45252130F8B for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw0-x233.google.com with SMTP id j134-v6so630500ywg.4 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:24:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chromium.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=AaGsJeLropWQTeoRwg708eBNYNZ6bqkRZZiJz3JZgc8=; b=hHV+uhT61GzZ0U2v6XjCn8WShsm6Zxa2uarglzkHLl9OtVRWblRMe9R+HsC/hWBtmw aJ0aPRkWN0xMgl/Od4PwYrEh45TYcCCNpxcn4aPv2+7+8bIL3EEl9Yk37xfutsIwRneU s5NOAR/Yp6gFzvNAsAj7eExsfYjof6xWOKiXo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=AaGsJeLropWQTeoRwg708eBNYNZ6bqkRZZiJz3JZgc8=; b=hZ0OrJmalwANJ1JYWlJUuEuouhV+wcBEfXspmfq6ayUfwbgYY6Qc+idBlVuuqwJLMV OiCkxX41xiKuJSboPAXRFIUrczWlRZb0MKpxx29IlnTmIIxRhlORI9EITTJi0/jJtt8c qO9bPUj2G+rljzrduPDPJMgx7Buq93z0ADCFiNFZrZdbnIkmrb93d8uXC7M88qElu+aL RDaDxvcDLnU55Jnxe4jNx5BHiEx0WpwDjMfxn53hq3mEp/4sDDgaPWxYfDuRqmuhIFcD VTquA1HFEDDG4FK4kapsbODewy81KUkfbLpsiF15t6WeVYHEkLj245U0AtiN2wfkMgqj MlQw== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1oYED1J6fDqzgzHbaRGn0NVv8Yik33GxpwOBWWU2w5mwzTjAkx RtM8FFGCOo5GRRGEyoHPkSJRZdvIZZqc2QY3VHShpA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIgOW3gD3HzzxD8GNp+wR5TSglOZ4GOvnM5JvGgAdPSltAf4rHwu3Fm+tmEzGcTCemOTri3mZmV0LM0P4LJYYE= X-Received: by 2002:a81:9b8c:: with SMTP id s134-v6mr10905690ywg.90.1529551469915; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:24:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2BA1FE60-D5A8-49A7-BB92-1650ABB5304B@isoc.org> <788BE920-0B52-4B8F-9FA1-26B0C9E7BFC4@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: <788BE920-0B52-4B8F-9FA1-26B0C9E7BFC4@mnot.net> From: Jeffrey Yasskin Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:24:18 -0700 Message-ID: To: Mark Nottingham Cc: Dan York , Jeffrey Yasskin , wpack@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000085810056f1e744b" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Wpack] Meeting at IETF 102 in Montreal? X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 03:24:34 -0000 --000000000000085810056f1e744b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sounds good. I've created an agenda wiki at https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/wiki/IETF-102-Agenda, which I'd love folks to add extra times to. Dan & Mark, could you find a time (after 10am Montreal time) and a room? I'll dial in via ... Hangouts? Thanks, Jeffrey On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 5:34 PM Mark Nottingham wrote: > It would be *great* if we could just get an update from someone > knowledgeable about what's been up with webpackage -- there seems to have > been a lot of activity on the specs and implementation. > > Cheers, > > > > On 21 Jun 2018, at 3:04 am, Dan York wrote: > > > > Jeff, > > > >> On Jun 14, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin > wrote: > >> > >> I won't be in Montreal, but I should be able to call in if people want > to discuss the drafts or talk about how they want to use the new > capabilities. > >> > >> Please chime in here if you'd be interested in a meeting that week. > > > > Yes, I'd be interested in meeting during IETF 102. I may be able to > help with onsite logistics (finding a room, etc.). > > > > Others interested? > > > > Dan > > > > -- > > Dan York > > Director, Content & Web Strategy, Internet Society > > york@isoc.org +1-802-735-1624 > > Jabber: york@jabber.isoc.org Skype: danyork > http://twitter.com/danyork > > > > http://www.internetsociety.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wpack mailing list > > Wpack@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpack > > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ > > --000000000000085810056f1e744b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds good. I've created an agenda wiki at=C2=A0https://gith= ub.com/WICG/webpackage/wiki/IETF-102-Agenda, which I'd love folks t= o add extra times to. Dan & Mark, could you find a time (after 10am Mon= treal time) and a room? I'll dial in via ... Hangouts?

Thanks,
Jeffrey

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 5:34 PM Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
It would be *great* if we could just get an update from so= meone knowledgeable about what's been up with webpackage -- there seems= to have been a lot of activity on the specs and implementation.

Cheers,


> On 21 Jun 2018, at 3:04 am, Dan York <york@isoc.org> wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
>> On Jun 14, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin <jyasskin@chromium.org> wro= te:
>>
>> I won't be in Montreal, but I should be able to call in if peo= ple want to discuss the drafts or talk about how they want to use the new c= apabilities.
>>
>> Please chime in here if you'd be interested in a meeting that = week.
>
> Yes, I'd be interested in meeting during IETF 102.=C2=A0 I may be = able to help with onsite logistics (finding a room, etc.).
>
> Others interested?
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan York
> Director, Content & Web Strategy, Internet Society
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--000000000000085810056f1e744b-- From nobody Wed Jun 20 20:26:37 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65BE131190 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:26:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mnot.net header.b=xBiBCm53; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=HLPVyBq2 Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2GGLWOipQq0o for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86D46130FCB for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4902219E6; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 23:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 20 Jun 2018 23:26:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mnot.net; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=D9twNTPeb9GVzfAjeYA6XkxCtffVp pkUK+MPUTjtzn8=; b=xBiBCm53vehzENkREQrDJXttaptiy2yCY83DuyGWLGgsN VrJGCJ9mb8xHng1f+SgSNDySTpJK7zdg3K/YE+S781Go+XHU7Kxkia7CWZBbUyNX Dhaew0AncGBxujsqqQPq5EVyMRcCblUsD9+HdIp1bmiVp8Mc2AB4l40E7jYuhkDO wj/vSzwBP3V2yberelKCzvVD9bSFk7drDZSqbmCahDBmCfRZiCZZrgBemlgkwr/N Ak53m5aR4nf8dB2xzVhZeTyj8mfxFlQFrg84dlamCGBHsOh4KzV5KjaWhqAk0K9n 6welecvZUS8nwO58+/tWrqma4RKEbsKS+rrUYrrXg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=D9twNT Peb9GVzfAjeYA6XkxCtffVppkUK+MPUTjtzn8=; b=HLPVyBq2PbYJ+6ONokrzEI YGsaaHUz+ZWrfGNwSgTy7TPwBAHz1N5gS4a25bMN/HIvwdrNhlSRPJk1+/d6M4pT tnswl762WFkzNZW54hDmJjv+O5/QoQa3AHz8RUSBxqqvIi9+u5kqyughssAi3FHg BqpneFeqojkC/2261Dir5hFIrKM0OPCDPsKsE0Yj2iCFBiCSY1UgRwGNyERwg9Yi qRudR4tMkKwWONqKiUk+4a/PSkYlyVOLyHw7fndRCFha1QmcxE5qSfIhVm6nhapo 8Gwng7Qyo/6mGMWzjA69RCK5fONI/2VPN2o+0h2WE63oEeAN+um4O3xpm5cFYo7A == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from attitudadjuster.localdomain (unknown [144.136.175.28]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 70DFCE4329; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 23:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.4 \(3445.8.2\)) From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 13:26:27 +1000 Cc: Dan York , wpack@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2BA1FE60-D5A8-49A7-BB92-1650ABB5304B@isoc.org> <788BE920-0B52-4B8F-9FA1-26B0C9E7BFC4@mnot.net> To: Jeffrey Yasskin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Wpack] Meeting at IETF 102 in Montreal? X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 03:26:36 -0000 Maybe Tuesday lunchtime? > On 21 Jun 2018, at 1:24 pm, Jeffrey Yasskin = wrote: >=20 > Sounds good. I've created an agenda wiki at = https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/wiki/IETF-102-Agenda, which I'd love = folks to add extra times to. Dan & Mark, could you find a time (after = 10am Montreal time) and a room? I'll dial in via ... Hangouts? >=20 > Thanks, > Jeffrey >=20 > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 5:34 PM Mark Nottingham wrote: > It would be *great* if we could just get an update from someone = knowledgeable about what's been up with webpackage -- there seems to = have been a lot of activity on the specs and implementation.=20 >=20 > Cheers, >=20 >=20 > > On 21 Jun 2018, at 3:04 am, Dan York wrote: > >=20 > > Jeff, > >=20 > >> On Jun 14, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin = wrote: > >>=20 > >> I won't be in Montreal, but I should be able to call in if people = want to discuss the drafts or talk about how they want to use the new = capabilities. > >>=20 > >> Please chime in here if you'd be interested in a meeting that week. > >=20 > > Yes, I'd be interested in meeting during IETF 102. I may be able to = help with onsite logistics (finding a room, etc.). > >=20 > > Others interested? > >=20 > > Dan > >=20 > > -- > > Dan York > > Director, Content & Web Strategy, Internet Society > > york@isoc.org +1-802-735-1624=20 > > Jabber: york@jabber.isoc.org Skype: danyork = http://twitter.com/danyork > >=20 > > http://www.internetsociety.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wpack mailing list > > Wpack@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpack >=20 > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ >=20 -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ From nobody Wed Jun 20 22:44:51 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99CD131068 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:44:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jEmjcacqzpgz for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot0-x236.google.com (mail-ot0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3F31130EBA for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot0-x236.google.com with SMTP id 92-v6so2195909otw.9 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:44:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ltwb1+O8Np/WawvY7p9zCOb/ijqXPO8nyc3ov/KoxAc=; b=D76vXU+StueKJ4wriwCJ3E6zjLLqDQUxVNPqR8zYJV71pgTayYi08zsx7kPFPdIMof XiIpn1OlHbXdD31u+qSgLbI6k1ZePKhmNKS9lGuX9kc3YkErGZI/J5t9peCYybOAyoXF J2L70WciWvPGRxMwuccD96uRLAAmHoVtRalJkQs+aU60k71KT0csoPEG1Uju+Mle4wvr rZlXVBk7qdQQIDXJci3yU74Hy4r7l7XT8A5i9rGqieMjZyNs/gjD3K9TQ1Gy8KwnOI8y ULRSzp0IzyNFH+yxwN+k3zGLsH590UuRcv7BNANnGtxqkfcK57UaFtpGterQ8/KvfI+6 wSgA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ltwb1+O8Np/WawvY7p9zCOb/ijqXPO8nyc3ov/KoxAc=; b=tGLv9ug9Kr/CJ4rrbZc7uWSOsZmkWod3lyLopDQN/Aw5aDpMEByS8XEYysR2SIut8z nXgH8Z4699nF3JatmjO+RkZnfhT2iV5RI+CE3BkZAGFLT5vDuk2iqkA3+1Llt95hAb6X 5XNg8YjwSSfWn3tYldNN3svMgpRnHNts+WgsqF8Jy0D5nZtnFZYDG1P5zDzok2HRyJBH K/T/ZppIyBAFEU0ZabSA9KSy/XpZhCLB8DulAKdkFnWraT1JBTO/h483BMKG9yWV9jBp 2KembbOa+viQvHaNLUinSReYSuN6y11fMXbqC4uPSmQwQc/btxaiCW6iWpIrtrYF18Im 87Kg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2a9mvGs9wRgE7JLq/vI5e6rIOSJ4Re/Kr1jnCTqES3Ji6mJhv/ tkYJqcOjEwGTCRNhT6s9G/+/dXKUrQLb8U8rbTI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIHK3ZhDnHtfQXw10Jxf3U4Mcis3xBKi1gs+/x3NLp+LwTM86G+a8rbUdqt8p1au93AloD5aEzhxPqYgNi5oGo= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:4044:: with SMTP id o4-v6mr13846807oti.283.1529559886061; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:44:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2BA1FE60-D5A8-49A7-BB92-1650ABB5304B@isoc.org> <788BE920-0B52-4B8F-9FA1-26B0C9E7BFC4@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: From: Martin Thomson Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 15:44:35 +1000 Message-ID: To: Mark Nottingham Cc: jyasskin@chromium.org, wpack@ietf.org, Dan York Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Wpack] Meeting at IETF 102 in Montreal? X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 05:44:49 -0000 That conflicts with SECDIR, which might not be ideal. On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:26 PM Mark Nottingham wrote: > > Maybe Tuesday lunchtime? > > > > On 21 Jun 2018, at 1:24 pm, Jeffrey Yasskin wrote: > > > > Sounds good. I've created an agenda wiki at https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/wiki/IETF-102-Agenda, which I'd love folks to add extra times to. Dan & Mark, could you find a time (after 10am Montreal time) and a room? I'll dial in via ... Hangouts? > > > > Thanks, > > Jeffrey > > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 5:34 PM Mark Nottingham wrote: > > It would be *great* if we could just get an update from someone knowledgeable about what's been up with webpackage -- there seems to have been a lot of activity on the specs and implementation. > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > On 21 Jun 2018, at 3:04 am, Dan York wrote: > > > > > > Jeff, > > > > > >> On Jun 14, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin wrote: > > >> > > >> I won't be in Montreal, but I should be able to call in if people want to discuss the drafts or talk about how they want to use the new capabilities. > > >> > > >> Please chime in here if you'd be interested in a meeting that week. > > > > > > Yes, I'd be interested in meeting during IETF 102. I may be able to help with onsite logistics (finding a room, etc.). > > > > > > Others interested? > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > -- > > > Dan York > > > Director, Content & Web Strategy, Internet Society > > > york@isoc.org +1-802-735-1624 > > > Jabber: york@jabber.isoc.org Skype: danyork http://twitter.com/danyork > > > > > > http://www.internetsociety.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wpack mailing list > > > Wpack@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpack > > > > -- > > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ > > > > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wpack mailing list > Wpack@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpack From nobody Wed Jun 20 22:46:27 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F81713102A for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:46:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mnot.net header.b=SQ6KCBBL; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=PsBCApW7 Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ityrpzTmOJ0s for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02B7F130EBA for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 22:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5341E21D49; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:46:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mnot.net; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=rT+TM0xubrc4eWlCSl/8TJH6JTHPz S/6YdNp1zFQO1E=; b=SQ6KCBBLqao7lIRvCaK42dWH0QERYwelFyr312AdW/e1E 4O1TSs2fcA4zDrGX99lwo5YmBJcrhJwyfD3X9h3V91gVfm3huu/UORLj94WmZBn6 5dyV1Drca/NvEtgq0tbEQl+Ywz3ra8iaVd2lwf+30Lpk5tNOpFJjnQcrD4YpXQ6Y Z0Cer5dER8EKlPQi/4ESeGyGGLeBBoM+3ZBVHt9nhTQcgHgNxX6RmJpvc7VavKxb wmczXADy0Po3eGIMj2KQWlHf+pFqJOdtCuoXK4uME0w6l4NJqzPl4zEO3LeQlHyi zO2Y/sHrthaT9uaE1Y7DNXIn9Oib1wjCjpvVuiI9g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=rT+TM0 xubrc4eWlCSl/8TJH6JTHPzS/6YdNp1zFQO1E=; b=PsBCApW7IsQyIYgBT7YKF5 rWGdU9GWjUXfFFVi3wsQKWrwoeoD7K7hXDRn+N8lQDb7OmGjMwlm4uUZ/qV5Yy/7 3aPKFTHZTKTZu2oyD47/MWWr95c9rz6c/flLDoBQax/G+rL5E2yFlXJaUXwD6apV 66MctX8SSHIH2+BGSb4pj5m5InxLOs3Jq2NE/RvCaU+oWoppNJ7Qx+9U4maOmm7R tYlTgbf2Sawmz0+UYoyazz4bkE5s8m5r+8wRWkTriXXBME17n9NhEiELyQ3iOLWA XMvaLCDpYjJSzfYW7anBnpmEQRIy4KuEHzjPxIyE7R2lOvzxWmAyX3IdIMngBsKQ == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from attitudadjuster.localdomain (unknown [144.136.175.28]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2BFA210255; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.4 \(3445.8.2\)) From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 15:46:16 +1000 Cc: Jeffrey Yasskin , wpack@ietf.org, Dan York Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2BA1FE60-D5A8-49A7-BB92-1650ABB5304B@isoc.org> <788BE920-0B52-4B8F-9FA1-26B0C9E7BFC4@mnot.net> To: Martin Thomson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Wpack] Meeting at IETF 102 in Montreal? X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 05:46:26 -0000 On 21 Jun 2018, at 3:44 pm, Martin Thomson = wrote: >=20 > That conflicts with SECDIR, which might not be ideal. The rule is: if you bring up a conflict, you have to suggest an = alternative :) -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/