From nobody Thu Jun 27 10:01:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02705120156 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:01:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TTwgY14ne-a6 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot1-f46.google.com (mail-ot1-f46.google.com [209.85.210.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C96F12018D for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f46.google.com with SMTP id e8so2992138otl.7 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:01:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=z3WpjmVRtUmMkXUVPXtHYSeUWAOX9oAvHmznelGo0vE=; b=Xmh5YOdt23YsS4HeQMjP3pEV5hZFzS1l05OPs7EjEBSOvtuKht9Wesd+/8r4w9yR7i xZ+r4pnSrLIoRJMdPBxoXkbKazutmBB7GlFYmjcFwGzSvGQc49LEf6oRHE4w+ZgVUyBL 46bXZgrhF1qrpMgcqdFjGokOMMX3qjOJWmO2ZPLCgyEXTMgYVrPQkQGHXf3J/Qd/whLT IBHmk67utjbuomxEH9uGk1tjvtm8yRR3xTAWgEMJVQv5rao48h0dOci0vNJhMj0b2Qwz QiZerfT5y4/iSOiTq2VoDYgxayxDqdHMQ+GRdJ0Fe4App4mYCOXTT+NS5GNAwv66RLQd 2tWw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVana7SYUyg2FATAYvbCPBSdNd9Xq0DLc5VnhsDc0Ky7nBMy8Pi rfBZJey2guQKQ2emkm/mACbtGxJIPnnFzIRdKv2LoA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzu4o7zfxmP5kv1tdoGl7UYShvsQHa5vX1bLk9wpL0OjK4Vk543AnZMWSDV0WHujZS0yFAPwonHF54jael5lLE= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:c22:: with SMTP id 31mr4634328otr.48.1561654884305; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:01:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Phillip Hallam-Baker Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 13:01:14 -0400 Message-ID: To: wpack@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a40f6a058c511cd5" Archived-At: Subject: [Wpack] DARE Containers as possible packaging mechanism X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:01:28 -0000 --000000000000a40f6a058c511cd5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" As most of you know, I have been working on a new PKI to manage client side keys providing an almost transparent user experience. This infrastructure, the Mathematical Mesh makes use of a cryptographic repertoire that is rather broader than the one traditionally used in commercial cryptography. In particular, it makes use of meta-cryptography, that is operations on keys. Almost any network protocol can be made end-to-end secure with minimal effort if every user has the necessary private keys available at every device they wish to use. The purpose of the Mesh is providing the capabilities necessary to achieve that securely under real world conditions such as users losing devices, devices being compromised by malware or in manufacture, etc. The cryptographic platform on which the Mesh is built is called Data At Rest Encryption (DARE). At a very basic level, this may be seen as being a version of the PKCS#7/CMS scheme used in S/MIME applied to JSON Object Encryption and Signature to provide an 'envelope' capability. For efficiency, a modest extension of JSON encoding is available as an option, this simply allows direct encoding of binary and UTF8 sequences without the need for Base64 or escape encoding. Envelopes may be joined together in an append only sequence to form a container. While it is not their primary purpose in the Mesh, DARE containers provide a full superset of ZIP archive capabilities combined with modern cryptographic capabilities, i.e. * Envelopes may be signed and encrypted individually. * A single key exchange record may be used to encrypt and authenticate multiple envelopes in a container. * Blockchain type integrity checking is supported by means of simple chains and Merkle trees. * Various indexing mechanisms are supported. * A form of proxy re-encryption is supported. The last capability is useful in enterprise deployments as it permits a key server in the cloud to control the ability to decrypt documents without having the ability to perform decryption by itself. This protects against the type of insider attack where the administrator of the key server decrypts all the documents and makes off for Hong Kong as well as ordinary cloud breaches. The application I was considering for deployment of the file archive capability was distribution of code. Current code signing technologies target either the distribution package or the distributed files. DARE Container supports both approaches with a single signature. It is also allows for redacted containers to be distributed. So a video game for PC and MAC might be distributed as a single container but the PC version need only download the shared content and the PC executables. There is reference code and a very comprehensive document set in preparation. This was commissioned as pure research into where we might want to take the industry and so backwards compatibility was intentionally avoided. It is an open question as to whether the best approach from this point on is to take the opportunity to jettison the baggage of the past (ASN.1, PKIX, etc) or to attempt re-use. I am currently working on finishing the 3.0 version of the documentation set for Montreal. --000000000000a40f6a058c511cd5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As = most of you know, I have been working on a new PKI to manage client side ke= ys providing an almost transparent user experience. This infrastructure, th= e Mathematical Mesh makes use of a cryptographic repertoire that is rather = broader than the one traditionally used in commercial cryptography. In part= icular, it makes use of meta-cryptography, that is operations on keys.

Almost any network protocol c= an be made end-to-end secure with minimal effort if every user has the nece= ssary private keys available at every device they wish to use. The purpose = of the Mesh is providing the capabilities necessary to achieve that securel= y under real world conditions such as users losing devices, devices being c= ompromised by malware or in manufacture, etc.

The cryptographic platform on which the Mesh is built = is called Data At Rest Encryption (DARE). At a very basic level, this may b= e seen as being a version of the PKCS#7/CMS scheme used in S/MIME applied t= o JSON Object Encryption and Signature to provide an 'envelope' cap= ability. For efficiency, a modest extension of JSON encoding is available a= s an option, this simply allows direct encoding of binary and UTF8 sequence= s without the need for Base64 or escape encoding.

Envelopes may be joined together in an append only= sequence to form a container. While it is not their primary purpose in the= Mesh, DARE containers provide a full superset of ZIP archive capabilities = combined with modern cryptographic capabilities, i.e.

* Envelopes may be signed and encrypted indivi= dually.
* A sin= gle key exchange record may be used to encrypt and authenticate multiple en= velopes in a container.
* Blockchain type integrity checking is supported by means of simp= le chains and Merkle trees.
* Various indexing mechanisms are supported.
* A form of proxy re-encryptio= n is supported.

The last = capability is useful in enterprise deployments as it permits a key server i= n the cloud to control the ability to decrypt documents without having the = ability to perform decryption by itself. This protects against the type of = insider attack where the administrator of the key server decrypts all the d= ocuments and makes off for Hong Kong as well as ordinary cloud breaches.

The application I was consi= dering for deployment of the file archive capability was distribution of co= de. Current code signing technologies target either the distribution packag= e or the distributed files. DARE Container supports both approaches with a = single signature. It is also allows for redacted containers to be distribut= ed. So a video game for PC and MAC might be distributed as a single contain= er but the PC version need only download the shared content and the PC exec= utables.

There is referen= ce code and a very comprehensive document set in preparation. This was comm= issioned as pure research into where we might want to take the industry and= so backwards compatibility was intentionally avoided. It is an open questi= on as to whether the best approach from this point on is to take the opport= unity to jettison the baggage of the past (ASN.1, PKIX, etc) or to attempt = re-use.

I am currently wo= rking on finishing the 3.0 version of the documentation set for Montreal.
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I'd like to schedule a time for this group to chat abo= ut the state of web packaging in Montreal. We'll have just finished the= ESCAPE workshop (https://www.iab.org/activities/workshops/escape-workshop/)= , and I can discuss the progress in the specifications and Chromium's i= mplementation.=C2=A0

Would anyone have trouble attending= the 8:30-9:45am slot on Tuesday?

I'd al= so like to invite folks from this group to present their thoughts on the su= bject. Let me know if you want time and how much, and I'll put an agend= a together.

Thanks,
Jeffrey
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<5348E7E0-C6BB-42DA-A08E-DB79A0253636@akamai.com> From: Jeffrey Yasskin Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 09:53:52 -0700 Message-ID: To: "Salz, Rich" Cc: "wpack@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Wpack] WPACK side meeting at IETF105 X-BeenThere: wpack@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Web Packaging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 16:54:10 -0000 I meant Tuesday July 23 for the side meeting during IETF105. ESCAPE is the previous Thursday, but it's invite-only and in a different city. Let me know if I *should* have meant Thursday July 25 for the side meeting. :) Jeffrey On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 8:26 AM Salz, Rich wrote: > > I assume you mean on Thursday. :) > > > > From: Jeffrey Yasskin > Date: Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:30 PM > To: "wpack@ietf.org" > Subject: [Wpack] WPACK side meeting at IETF105 > > > > I'd like to schedule a time for this group to chat about the state of web= packaging in Montreal. We'll have just finished the ESCAPE workshop (https= ://www.iab.org/activities/workshops/escape-workshop/), and I can discuss th= e progress in the specifications and Chromium's implementation. > > > > Would anyone have trouble attending the 8:30-9:45am slot on Tuesday? > > > > I'd also like to invite folks from this group to present their thoughts o= n the subject. Let me know if you want time and how much, and I'll put an a= genda together. > > > > Thanks, > > Jeffrey From nobody Sat Jun 29 10:24:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpack@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5F41200C5 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2019 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=akamai.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9aZvFp52g-nd for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2019 10:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-00190b01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00190b01.pphosted.com [IPv6:2620:100:9005:57f::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFCAB12002F for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2019 10:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0050102.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0050102.ppops.net-00190b01. 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