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>In an effort to get more folks to help W3C
>keep track of what's going on in the IETF,
>we're hosting a new mailing list.

what I wonder is, who is going to help IETF folks keep track
of what's going on in W3C?  


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As XML MIME types are pretty relevant to W3C work, this announcement seems 
appropriate here.

>From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
>To: www-tag@w3.org
>Date: 06 Jun 2002 08:47:42 -0500
>Subject: [Fwd: announcing public-ietf-w3c@w3.org]
>
>In an effort to get more folks to help W3C
>keep track of what's going on in the IETF,
>we're hosting a new mailing list.
>
>Anybody who participates in a relevant IETF
>forum, please consider forward this announcement
>there.
>
>--
>Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
>
>Subject: announcing public-ietf-w3c@w3.org
>From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
>To: public-ietf-w3c@w3.org
>Cc: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>, Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>
>
>The IETF and W3C communities collaborate in
>a number of technical areas, from the
>original URI/HTTP/HTML specs to more
>modern stuff like XML digital signatures.
>
>At the request of some of our members, W3C is
>hosting this new mailing list, public-ietf-w3c,
>for the purpose of keeping track of areas
>of overlap between W3C and IETF work. In particular, for
>
>   -- requesting that relevant members of the W3C
>   community participate in review of certain IETF documents.
>
>   -- suggesting IETF ftf meeting sessions that
>   the W3C community should participate in.
>
>For example, Martin Duerst is scheduled to attend
>IETF 54 in Yokohama. Are there some sessions
>that you suggest would be particularly useful for
>him to attend?
>
>Are there other contacts and connections that should be
>made there?
>
>The W3C TAG has agreed to review RFC3205 at
>the request of www-tag participants...
>   http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#HTTPSubstrate-16
>
>Are there other IETF specs that W3C working groups
>should be looking at? (preferably before they
>become RFCs ;-)
>
>
>I just took a look at the archive of ietf@ietf.org
>to see what's up in that part of the world...
>   http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/
>
>and I see that they're planning an IPR working group.
>Ah... Rob Lanphier has already pointed out the
>relevant W3C work...
>   http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg15999.html
>
>
>
>About public-ietf-w3c@w3.org ...
>
>I am sending this announcement to a number of people
>who have been involved in recent W3C/IETF discussions,
>but I didn't subscribe any of you.
>
>To subscribe, send a message ala:
>
>         To: public-ietf-w3c-request@w3.org
>         Subject: subscribe
>
>Posting is limited to known parties (i.e. addresses
>subscribed to this or any other mailing list @w3.org).
>
>Hypertext archives are available to the world at:
>         http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ietf-w3c/
>
>
>To unsubscribe, send a message ala:
>
>         To: public-ietf-w3c-request@w3.org
>         Subject: unsubscribe
>
>Full administrative details are available at:
>         http://www.w3.org/Mail/Request
>
>
>--
>Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/

Simon St.Laurent
"Every day in every way I'm getting better and better." - Emile Coue



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I've attached an IETF draft XML Encryption media-type registration; please 
publish it. Also, this email serves to instantiate the two week discussion 
period on "ietf-types@iana.org" .

The expected course of advancement for this specification is:
1. Publication of an IETF Draft as specified:
  ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt
2. I will notify the security and application area directors.
3. Request publication as an Informational RFC as specified:
  ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc-editor/instructions2authors.txt
4. Ensure IANA is aware of the publication and posts the registration as 
specified:
  ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2048.txt

The changes in this specification since the last version [1] discussed on 
"ietf-xml-mime@imc.org" include:
1. There is no redundant type parameter for the encrypted object.
2. The type only applies to XML instances in which a XML Encryption element 
is the root document.
3. Non-normative examples are enumerated for addressing the description of 
documents in which XML Encryption elements occur as non-root nodes, " XML 
documents which contain XENC element types in places other than the root 
element can be described using facilities such as [XML-schema] or 
[StLaurent]."

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-encryption/2002May/0040.html

Thank you.

-- 

Joseph Reagle Jr.                 http://www.w3.org/People/Reagle/
W3C Policy Analyst                mailto:reagle@w3.org
IETF/W3C XML-Signature Co-Chair   http://www.w3.org/Signature/
W3C XML Encryption Chair          http://www.w3.org/Encryption/2001/

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I'm still absorbing the implications of that first paragraph, but I'm
generally happy with Dan's rewrite.  Thanks.

MB
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