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Hello:

xml2rfc v2 says that <artwork> can have a @src attribute, which is a =
URI. I assume that the base URI is the current URI of the xml2rfc =
document.

What is the proper behavior when an <artwork> has textual data and also =
has the src attribute? Is it a fatal processing error, or does one take =
precedence? RFC 7749 does not say.

Note: The xml2rfc v3 draft says: =E2=80=9CIt is an error to have both a =
"src" attribute and content in the <artwork> (or <sourcecode>) =
element.=E2=80=9D Therefore I would say that v3 treats the condition as =
fatal. The xml2rfc v3 preptool draft suggests that @src is supposed to =
be factored out during the posting/publication process, by including the =
contents directly in the inner XML element, or by using a data: URI.


It appears that the xml2rfc v2 2.5.1 (Python) completely ignores the src =
attribute on <artwork>, as confirmed with both testing and source code =
analysis. It does not even care, so <artwork src=3D=E2=80=9Cfoo.txt"/> =
is treated as <artwork></artwork>, and the presence of both text and =
@src results in just the text being used. I just tried submitting an =
Internet-Draft with an <artwork> with both @src and text, and the upload =
tool took it (I didn=E2=80=99t actually post the draft).

Would this be loosely classified as a =E2=80=9Cbug=E2=80=9D (or missing =
feature), or is this by design?

Sean

PS I am trying to decide if a tool should basically ignore <artwork> =
@src, error out, or do something else.=


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On 2016-09-09 08:58, Sean Leonard wrote:
> Hello:
>
> xml2rfc v2 says that <artwork> can have a @src attribute, which is a URI. I assume that the base URI is the current URI of the xml2rfc document.

Yes.

> What is the proper behavior when an <artwork> has textual data and also has the src attribute? Is it a fatal processing error, or does one take precedence? RFC 7749 does not say.

It depends.

rfc2629.xslt uses the @src attribute when producing HTML.

xml2rfc.tcl AFAIR uses the textual content when producing plain text and 
the @src attribute when producing HTML.

That is, the text content is used as a fallback when the output format 
doesn't support graphics.

(Note that the behavior might depend on the presence of 
<https://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc7749.html#element.artwork.attribute.type>, 
and it starting with "image/" -- I don't believe anybody has tested this 
with any other media type).

> Note: The xml2rfc v3 draft says: “It is an error to have both a "src" attribute and content in the <artwork> (or <sourcecode>) element.” Therefore I would say that v3 treats the condition as fatal. The xml2rfc v3 preptool draft suggests that @src is supposed to be factored out during the posting/publication process, by including the contents directly in the inner XML element, or by using a data: URI.

That's IMHO a bug in the v3 draft.

> It appears that the xml2rfc v2 2.5.1 (Python) completely ignores the src attribute on <artwork>, as confirmed with both testing and source code analysis. It does not even care, so <artwork src=“foo.txt"/> is treated as <artwork></artwork>, and the presence of both text and @src results in just the text being used. I just tried submitting an Internet-Draft with an <artwork> with both @src and text, and the upload tool took it (I didn’t actually post the draft).
>
> Would this be loosely classified as a “bug” (or missing feature), or is this by design?

I'd consider this a bug with low prio, as it doesn't affect the output 
formats the IETF *currently* works on.

> Sean
>
> PS I am trying to decide if a tool should basically ignore <artwork> @src, error out, or do something else.

It depends on the audience of that tool, I'd say.

Best regards, Julian


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On 9/9/2016 12:27 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 2016-09-09 08:58, Sean Leonard wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> xml2rfc v2 says that <artwork> can have a @src attribute, which is a 
>> URI. I assume that the base URI is the current URI of the xml2rfc 
>> document.
>
> Yes.
>
>> What is the proper behavior when an <artwork> has textual data and 
>> also has the src attribute? Is it a fatal processing error, or does 
>> one take precedence? RFC 7749 does not say.
>
> It depends.
>
> rfc2629.xslt uses the @src attribute when producing HTML.
>
> xml2rfc.tcl AFAIR uses the textual content when producing plain text 
> and the @src attribute when producing HTML.
>
> That is, the text content is used as a fallback when the output format 
> doesn't support graphics.
>
> (Note that the behavior might depend on the presence of 
> <https://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc7749.html#element.artwork.attribute.type>, 
> and it starting with "image/" -- I don't believe anybody has tested 
> this with any other media type).

Okay, thanks. Overall it sounds like the intent of @src in v2 is to be 
used for (binary) graphics formats, with the text content being a 
fallback to the (binary) graphic.

>
>> Note: The xml2rfc v3 draft says: “It is an error to have both a "src" 
>> attribute and content in the <artwork> (or <sourcecode>) element.” 
>> Therefore I would say that v3 treats the condition as fatal. The 
>> xml2rfc v3 preptool draft suggests that @src is supposed to be 
>> factored out during the posting/publication process, by including the 
>> contents directly in the inner XML element, or by using a data: URI.
>
> That's IMHO a bug in the v3 draft.

Well, if it's a bug, it's a deliberately-engineered bug: the text in 
draft-iab-rfcv3-preptool-02 says repeatedly to error out if both @src 
and text content are present...

>
>> It appears that the xml2rfc v2 2.5.1 (Python) completely ignores the 
>> src attribute on <artwork>, as confirmed with both testing and source 
>> code analysis. It does not even care, so <artwork src=“foo.txt"/> is 
>> treated as <artwork></artwork>, and the presence of both text and 
>> @src results in just the text being used. I just tried submitting an 
>> Internet-Draft with an <artwork> with both @src and text, and the 
>> upload tool took it (I didn’t actually post the draft).
>>
>> Would this be loosely classified as a “bug” (or missing feature), or 
>> is this by design?
>
> I'd consider this a bug with low prio, as it doesn't affect the output 
> formats the IETF *currently* works on. 

Ok, good enough for my purposes for now.

Sean


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On 2016-09-09 10:04, Sean Leonard wrote:
> ...
> Okay, thanks. Overall it sounds like the intent of @src in v2 is to be
> used for (binary) graphics formats, with the text content being a
> fallback to the (binary) graphic.

Indeed.

> ...
>> That's IMHO a bug in the v3 draft.
>
> Well, if it's a bug, it's a deliberately-engineered bug: the text in
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Yes, I happen to disagree with multiple things in v3.

> ...

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#327: Having more than 26 appendices causes unhandled exception

 When an xml2rfc source has more than 26 appendices, an unhanded exception
 occurs.

 To verify this behavior, create an xml2rfc document with more than 26
 appendices, such as:

 <back>
  <references>...</references>
  <section title="test"><t>test</t></section>
  (repeated 26 or more times)
 </back>

 Then run it on xml2rfc.

 Exemplary output:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/bin/xml2rfc", line 5, in <module>
     pkg_resources.run_script('xml2rfc==2.4.8w', 'xml2rfc')
   File
 "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py",
 line 492, in run_script
     self.require(requires)[0].run_script(script_name, ns)
   File
 "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py",
 line 1350, in run_script
     execfile(script_filename, namespace, namespace)
   File ".../EGG-INFO/scripts/xml2rfc", line 225, in <module>
     main()
   File ".../EGG-INFO/scripts/xml2rfc", line 192, in main
     htmlwriter.write(filename)
   File ".../xml2rfc/writers/base.py", line 1186, in write
     self._build_index()
   File ".../xml2rfc/writers/base.py", line 1035, in _build_index
     self.write_section_rec(back, None, appendix=True)
   File ".../xml2rfc/writers/base.py", line 865, in write_section_rec
     self.write_section_rec(child_sec, uppercase[s_count - 1],
 IndexError: string index out of range


 (Note that, at present, there is no limitation on the number of appendices
 in the xml2rfc vocabulary.)

 The underlying problem is that the code around lines 863-866 in base.py
 have undefined behavior past 26:

                 # Use an alphabetic counter for first-level appendix
                 uppercase = "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"
                 self.write_section_rec(child_sec, uppercase[s_count - 1],
                                         level=level + 1, appendix=True)

 One correct solution is to compute the appendix letter(s) by converting to
 base 26 ( mod 26 and divide by 26) to get AA-AZ, BA-BZ, etc. as discussed
 in Stack Overflow question #15791780.

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#327: Having more than 26 appendices causes unhandled exception

Changes (by tony@att.com):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 Fixed in [2253]:

 fix for #327

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Hi,

apparently, 1id-index.txt now has academic titles for some authors; at =
least I see "Dr." for many entries. This must be new?

This causes xml2rfc to rename all these authors first names to "D.", =
which is incorrect in 95% of the cases :-)

Lars

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Hi Lars,

On 2016-09-13 16:37, Eggert, Lars wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> apparently, 1id-index.txt now has academic titles for some authors;
> at least I see "Dr." for many entries. This must be new?
>=20
> This causes xml2rfc to rename all these authors first names to "D.",
> which is incorrect in 95% of the cases :-)

Ugh.  That was an inadvertent change resulting from some refactoring
that was merged in not so long ago.  Fixed in [11986].

Thanks for the alert!

	Henrik


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#327: Having more than 26 appendices causes unhandled exception


Comment (by dev+ietf@seantek.com):

 I tested the patch and it addresses this bug. Thank you!

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  Reporter:                    |      Owner:  henrik@levkowetz.com
  dev+ietf@seantek.com         |     Status:  closed
      Type:  defect            |  Milestone:
  Priority:  medium            |    Version:  2.5.x
 Component:  Version 2 cli     |   Keywords:  appendix, appendices, section
Resolution:  fixed             |
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Ticket URL: <https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/327#comment:2>
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hello.

https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/308 is a bug i 
reported about half a year ago, and i just ran into it again 
(https://github.com/dret/I-D/issues/37 was reported for a draft i 
published yesterday). i am using the online version of xml2rfc. i am 
wondering about the trac tracker in general: is this an active tracker 
where it makes sense to report feedback such as this bug? is there a 
chance that this bug might be fixed, or at least acknowledged? i'd also 
be more than happy to use some workaround, if there is one.

thanks a lot and cheers,

dret.

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Partial Workaround: symrefs=yes (I have no idea why people are still
doing symrefs=no).  This will at least make sure the erefs no longer use
the same number space as the bibliography xrefs.

More workaround: In addition, move the erefs out of the <note...>
section, which like the abstract is a weird section for xml2rfc when it
comes to references.

Grüße, Carsten


Erik Wilde wrote:
> hello.
> 
> https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/308 is a bug i
> reported about half a year ago, and i just ran into it again
> (https://github.com/dret/I-D/issues/37 was reported for a draft i
> published yesterday). i am using the online version of xml2rfc. i am
> wondering about the trac tracker in general: is this an active tracker
> where it makes sense to report feedback such as this bug? is there a
> chance that this bug might be fixed, or at least acknowledged? i'd also
> be more than happy to use some workaround, if there is one.
> 
> thanks a lot and cheers,
> 
> dret.
> 


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guten tag carsten.

On 2016-09-15 09:27, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Partial Workaround: symrefs=yes (I have no idea why people are still
> doing symrefs=no).  This will at least make sure the erefs no longer use
> the same number space as the bibliography xrefs.

https://github.com/dret/I-D/commit/c260298bc043f1b94c33f88945434bc4dd49406d 
does that, thanks for the idea!

> More workaround: In addition, move the erefs out of the <note...>
> section, which like the abstract is a weird section for xml2rfc when it
> comes to references.

maybe. mostly it was my attempt to put that information into a place 
where it can easily disappear eventually without changing what was the 
actual content of the draft.

thanks and cheers,

dret.

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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #308 (Version 2 cli): Wrong links for <eref/> elements
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#308: Wrong links for <eref/> elements


Comment (by cabo@tzi.org):

 As discussed in https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/xml2rfc/IgIrYjsuU-
 hux_w4c_XlleheUQg there are two problems:

  * With symrefs=no, the eref name space is not distinct from the biblio
 xref name space.  Workaround: use symrefs=yes (which is the preferred way
 anyway) with eref.
  * erefs from <note...> elements are semi-swallowed by xml2rfc.
 (Workaround: Don't use erefs from <note...>, but there may be good reasons
 to do so.)

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  Reporter:  erik.wilde@dret.net  |      Owner:  henrik@levkowetz.com
      Type:  defect               |     Status:  new
  Priority:  critical             |  Milestone:
 Component:  Version 2 cli        |    Version:  2.4.x
Resolution:                       |   Keywords:
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Ticket URL: <https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/308#comment:1>
xml2rfc <http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/>

